December 29, 2025 • 49 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for C&R as they talk about the latest episode involving Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni.
Dan and Monse talk about Lane Kiffin leaving the LSU bowl game before it ended, and how people should handle goodbyes.
Dan tells Monse the story of going to an NFL game with Jason Stewart.
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It's a Fox Sports Radio Monday, the weirdest Monday of
the year because it's the last no because it's in
between Christmas and New Year, and then you have to
pretend that you're going back to work. Not us, but
normal people who have normal jobs and they have to
go work for two days and then they go back
on vacation.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I felt sorry for those that were on the roads
this morning going to work. Yep, a bit of empathy,
yeah for them back to normal for two days. But
if you're done with the work now, hey, good Anya, job,
well done, that's right. Use those days when the sun
is shining and you're out at the lake and having
a good time. That's how you look at it. Isaac
(01:00):
long Grand is here on this weird Monday. What's going on? Isaac?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't mind, because the roads are clear and there's
less traffic. I wish it was like that all.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Though, But remember Isaac told me when I said the weekends,
He's like, there's always traffic here on Saturday as well.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Weird dichotomy.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
There is serving that in my face. Jason Stewart backed
me over a uh, actually put me under a semi
earlier for my Aaron Glenn take. He is with.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Us, everybody and more of that this show. More about
this show, throwing Dan under the bus?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Yes, Jan, how many people have agreed with you on
the bills decision?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
So are Jason and I are the only ones, even
Michael Badgeley apparently.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Again, that's karma for the OJ Jersey. Chris Purfett didn't
agree with Jason and myself. He is our technical producer.
What's going on, Chris overtime?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It is an abomination of the eyes of God. I
don't need you settle it in sixty minutes. I'm not interested.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
The only thing that I now look back and say,
Sean McDermott, why didn't she kick the extra point? The
only thing that would have made me want him to
go for two is if I knew that they were
guaranteed to win. So we didn't have to deal with
Nick Siriani once again. I may be wrong on my
eron Glenn take, but I am a million percent wrong
(02:18):
in thinking that the success of Super Bowl fifty nine
for the Philadelphia Eagles, a victory over the Kansas City Chiefs,
the ability to hoist the Lombardi Trophy Monzi would make
Nick Siriani a changed man, a new man, a man
who has accomplished so much. But lets others talk about it,
(02:41):
that is not necessarily the case.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Nope, not even a little bit. This guy is like
more immature this year, I feel like than the last
couple of years.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
And it's just such a turn.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Actin like you've been there before, Act like you are
the adult in the room. But I feel like he's
the adult in the room. And you have a room
with aj Brown and you're still not the adult in
the room.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
So like, that's even crazier.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Jalen Hurts had to play the role of the adult
in the room in every room, and a lot of
times with Nick Sirianni. I remember in Super Bowl fifty
seven when Syriann's yelling at the officials, Movie's yelling at
some Chiefs players, Jalen Hurts is like, all right, let's
just focus on this play. Nick Sirianni will take every
opportunity to rub it in your face. And if you
(03:27):
don't believe me, this is what it sounded like last
night when Nick Sirianni ended up talking to the media
after the game.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
If you come out of this and you have you're
and you're just thinking about all the negative things that happened,
that makes for a miserable existence. We'll get there, we'll
get to what we need to clean up. And you know,
a really good first half by the offense, not a
great second half and a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Why. Okay, that's coach speak. Yeah, that seems sounding like
a coach. What is a miserable experiences? Seeing him, for
another time, yelling at opposing fans in a tunnel after
a win where a win was given because of a
bad decision by the other team's head coach. Seeing Nick
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Sirianni yelling and swearing and having those words, while not
directed at fans, Monci, we're directed at fans. It wasn't
just the national media. The national media was saying, guess
what this Eagles Bills game is kind of weird because
it's so late in the season. Eagles only have a
couple of spots to move. The Bills are a long
shot to make the AFC East. This isn't as great
of a matchup as it's great on paper. It's great
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to watch, but for what it actually meant in Week seventeen,
maybe didn't mean as much as it would have early
on in the season when Nick Sirianni decided to just
yell at everybody as again in a tunnel, like we
saw a couple of years ago in Kansas City when
the Eagles went and beat the Chiefs after losing the
Super Bowl the year prior. Nick Sirianni always wanting to
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grab his pound of flesh on the way out, And
it's just really getting.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Old, it really is, and it's crazy that it hasn't changed.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
He's walking to.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The locker room yelling at fans that aren't around because
he's walking in a tunnel, but like yelling, not so
much talking now. And I'm just I'm confused. Did you
win the game or did Josh Allen just lose the game?
Because I don't think you won the game, Nick Sirianni.
I don't think you made some crazy play since made
some crazy call that the Eagles went out there and
won the game.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
The Eagles just survived it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And then you want to yell who's doing or no
more talking now when Aj Brown looks at his coach.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Like you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And again Aj Brown, who has been a topic of
conversation also this season for last season, a topic of
conversation in his own way because he just wants the ball.
Here you have Nick Sirianni acting a fool after surviving
a game that, again, what mega implications did it have?
Didn't it didn't really have anything. You're just getting ready
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to go into the postseason. Both of these teams.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
You're defending champion, act like it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know, it's worse than a sore loser, a sore winner, Dan,
And that's what that guy is.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
One hundred percent. You're so spot on. And it's not
the first or second time, no what that we've seen it.
In fact, it's it could be the third or fourth time.
Because I also remember when the Eagles played the Indianapolis Colts. Now,
Nick Sirianni had coached under Frank Reich with the Indianapolis
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Colts prior to a stint with the Philadelphia Eagles. Well,
the Colts ended up dis missing Frank Reich and Nick
Sirianni and the Eagles went to Indianapolis, played a game
barely won, and Nick Sirianni is yelling and I get
standing up for your coach, but yelling at the fans
this one's for Frank Reich. Well yeah, well the fans
probably didn't like Frank Reike because the Colts stunk. Why
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is it their problem? And yeah, they just lost the game.
The Bills fans after sitting out there for three and
a half hours in a rainstorm, not saying too much. Ems,
I'm not surprised with all of that. But to your
point of Aj Brown is even rolling his eyes. It
it really annoys me that Nick Sirianni has a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Ring mm hmmm the key and a recent one, not
one twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
No, he's yeah, that he's it's it's it. It annoys me,
And it wouldn't have mattered Manzi, just because there is
such a select few that get that ability to win
a Super Bowl. We know how difficult it is for
players to win. Quarterbacks Dan Marino is still talked about,
but for him to have one just bothers me.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, because you know he'll throw it in your face
every opportunity he gets, no matter the situation, he's gonna
be like showing you, just like Shador Sanders does the
watch thing.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
He's just gonna show you his ring. Sure, and that's
that's gonna be something he can hold onto forever.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
In that video of him yelling at and where aj
Brown looks at him, he also is an idiot. It's
like you don't know where the locker room is. You
ran right into the camera. You walked into the camera
and then have to do, oh my bad, I'm going
this way. Oh it is your first time year.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Now, they're not there every year. You know. It is
an AFC stadium, but you know, and the good things
they get a new stadia.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
You don't see cameras every game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm sure this camera was not a hitting camera that
was on a little pin wearing that a guy was wearing.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
I'm sure this camera was.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Giant and you saw it as you were walking down
to go to the locker room and you didn't even
know where to make your turn.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Hey, it didn't it didn't end on a high note, idiot,
It didn't end on a high note. I don't mind.
I don't mind having confidence in your ce that.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
What this is no and again, what did you do?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
This is bratt behavior. Yeah, his offense and I don't
know if you know this. They completed zero passes in
the second half of yesterday's game against the Bill. Yes,
and he's the offensive guy. And now that's that's where
his background is now. He's taken more of a CEO approach.
But the problem with the offense, of the problem with
the Egos this year has been their offense. It wasn't
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as good as it was last year. And he's even
tried to interfere with some of that. But yesterday was
not a banner day for the Philadelphia Eagles, especially against
the Bills defense that you've pointed out is not the
strongest out there. So just to have your team survive
with eighteen total yards in the second half is just
a really weird, humble break again.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
A brag about what And it's like nobody else is
joining you in on this, So all you're doing is
separating yourself from again a player on your team that
is already a controversial one in aj Brown. I wish
it would have been Jalen Hurts next to him, because
then Jalen Hurts probably really would have given him a
dirty look.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I feel like I've seen that, but.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
It just adds to it the fact that aj Brown
is judging you.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
That's how do you not see that?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I don't know, because it happened right in front of him.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Yeah, and I did.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Even Wherewithal, I'm a big like wherewith all is my
word of the month. I think, yeah, zero, Wherewithal? With
Nick Sirianni, Act like you've.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Been there, Act like you just won the Super Bowl
last year.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Act like you didn't just Act like you survived a
game that you probably were on the verge of losing.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Act like that, keep your head down and get into
the locker room.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer, can't.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
We all agree that he probably would not have won
if mcdrumott would have decided to kick the extra point
and got overtime. We're all in agreement.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
He could have still won.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
We would have been we would have been saved from
this sort of reaction. Like think, think of all the
great coaches, think of just great coaches in history, Like
I'm a big Mike Holmgren guy, all right. You know,
he went to the Packers, turned them around and went
to the Seahawks, led the Seahawks to the Super Bowl.
He's one and two in Super Bowls. Like he's got
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the same number of rings as Nick Sirianni. And it
like it bothers me, like it ticks me off. You
can think of the coaches that were able to just
get one. I mean, we're looking at to get to
Mike Shanahan, Jimmy Johnson like he is. He is one
more ring away, and it could even happen this.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
To say, from a chance to another one.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And somehow everything is put together. He's he's had in
years past, the best, the best roster in the National
Football League. Many people give the credit to Howie Roseman,
but none of that has humbled him. I was hoping
Super Bowl fifty nine would have humbled Nick Sirianni. Not
a basically meaningless game in Week seventeen. I get. The
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counterpart is is he's such a competitor. Well that's that's
don't act the way that that he acts in this
petulant child sort of way after these victories where he
wants to have the last laugh on the fans in
the stadium because it's not the first, not the second
or the third time we've seen this.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
It's almost like he's the mascot.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, he's like the mascot, and that's not a good
thing when you're the head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
No, but that look on his face. I don't want
to say it, but it's just it's just like, man,
are you that much of a jerk?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It seems that right, It absolutely seems that way. It's
it's hard to defend. And then like you're you're talking
about being Oh, I'm competitive.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I'm a competitor. That's not what this is.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And I feel like you are literally filled with competitors.
If you have a super Bowl winning team, you have
Jalen Hurts, who all he does is get criticized and
have to go out there and be competitive.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
We just got a tweet from Mike who says haters
hate hater. But what he did was he put a
graphic of the It says go Eagles with like a
foam finger. Though there are his own Eagles players are
fat up with it. Yeah, this isn't an Eagles thing,
this isn't a Philadelphia thing. Yeah, this is a Nick
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Sirianni thing. That's what this is. And that's the part
that I just I thought it was all done. I
thought it was all gone after last year, and apparently
it's not. And it was tough to root for the
Eagles already. This makes it even more different.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Who sent that tweet? What's the name of the he's
an Eagles fan? You say yes, because that would be
my point, Like, he's the one head coach that takes
on the personality of his fan base and that's not
what you're supposed to do as a head coach. Like
all the Eagles fans, as that Twitter account is pointing out,
they support this kind of attitude. It's like, yeah, that's
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how I would act if I was a head coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think if you were to survey who maybe some
of the worst fan bases are.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I think a lot of people about Philadelphia. Yeah, that's
not a good thing.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Oh they bink Santa Claus. You can't you can't escape. Yeah,
you can't escape Michael Irvin on the turf and being
carted off ending his career and having you know, cheers
happening because of that. Yeah, that stuff sticks with you,
absolutely does. I just you know, I after seeing the video.
(13:53):
By the way, it wasn't just a Bills game. The
other portion of it is I bring up the competitor
aspect of it, because I with these games where there's
little value, there is a competitor in you that always
wants to compete. And I think that is probably a
part of Nick Sirianni. But for someone who has a
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Super Bowl ring, you now know the difference of winning
a super Bowl and winning a regular season game, and
he can't separate the two. And you go back to
the Kobe Bryant. Job's not finished. Job's not finished?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Anybody, yeah, ever, ever, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
The point is is that this action by Nick Sirianni
sure makes it feel like it's jobs finished. And it's
not like there's nothing to celebrate, there's nothing to taunt.
It's just stay on point. And that's all that I
think that we would want from our head coach or
any head coach. And to here point about aj Brown
being the adult in the room here, I don't know
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if you found that in chapter fourteen of the book
that he reads on the sidelines, but maybe Nick Sirianni
needs to read it.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Absolutely that's the funniest part of that video is that
it's with AJ Brown and AJ Brown is giving him
a look of embarrassment.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
That's the best part of the video.
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Don't do this alone, so Dan Byron and I are
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Speaker 5 (16:11):
Sorry, let me find this? Where was this?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Here?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
It is? This is what I've been looking for the
entire show.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Don't I sound better?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Here we go? Feels appropriate for right now? I know
it's not even in the chair. Well, I've never done
that before.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Can we have another Keith Jackson off between between Jason
and our next introduced.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
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Speaker 4 (16:42):
Keith? Keith Jackson off is when Isaac.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You got you gotta say that very slowly?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, I know I do. When Isaac and Jason go
back and forth with their Keith Jackson impressions, now sprinkled
in with Matzi losing her voice, I really thought, so
can we get a little bit more of the Keith
Jackson off?
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
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Speaker 3 (17:21):
That was funny.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Chris, my face hurts. I thought I sounded better. I
really did.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Let's I would Keith Jackson throw it down to Mancy
Bolangos on the sideline?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
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Speaker 3 (17:45):
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Speaker 5 (17:50):
Best I can do is Dennis Miller.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
No, I not, I'm play the Manzi trop Oh okay,
that's yes, Yes.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
That sound better.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
There we go that that's what we needed.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We got it, We got it, we got it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
It all made sense.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You sure you weren't asking for what ABC broadcaster Chris
Purffect could be do an impersonation of in that moment?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He can only let's hey, what about if Keith Jackson
was alongside Dennis Miller in the booth?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Keith Jackson and uh No, the only thing I practiced
for it was the offense is now live in Carolina?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Why do not tell you? Dennis? ABC asked me to
give you a shot, and I have no idea what
the hell you've been talking about for the last quarter
and a half? Right, boy, money, where is Frank Broyle's
when I need him?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Okay, well then very much. It's all right. There we go.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I got a me and Dan Diardorf.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I loved. I'd love to hear my favorite thing about
Monday night football. I've brought this up before. In the
old days of Frank Allen Dan Frank Gifford was such
the face of Monday night football. He wasn't the play
by play guy, but he brought in Al Michaels, the
play by play guy. So you know how like you
will watch Sunny night football, Mike Turrico is there and
then Chris Collinsworth comes in. This like, Frank Gifford would
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do his stand you know, stand up shot, and then
he would bring in the play by play guy al Michaels,
and then he would bring in Dan Diardorf, and then
al Michaels would take over the play by play. That's
how it was, Yes, a little different. Sometimes he would
have coaches up in the booth as well, maybe maybe
former players, and that's that goes on nowadays, And in fact,
(19:42):
it went on during the Texas Bowl in Houston this
past weekend. ESPN broadcasting the game, and this is a
doozy LSU is playing Houston. The game was on. It
was late enough on the West Coast that I wasn't
sure if the game was still on or it was
just a re play from earlier in the day because
we were at the Chargers Texans game. But turn it on.
(20:04):
Look at my phone. Yep, all right, there's ninety seconds
left and Houston's winning this game. And didn't really pay
any attention to it until I saw the aftermath of
college from the college football fans and Lane Kiffin, the
new head coach at LSU, appeared on the ESPN broadcast
of the Texas Bowl between the LSU and Houston as
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you would as much screen time as you can get.
It's why you see college basketball coaches if their team
gets bounced from the tournament, they want to be on
CBS the next week so recruits can see them and
know them and say, oh, okay, I'm familiar with coach,
look at him. They'll jump at the chance. The smart
coaches do that, and you see big name coaches do that.
So Lane Kiffin understands that's part of the deal. Guess what,
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I'm the new LSU head coach. The team that's out
there right now is not going to be the team
that we're going to have next year, and the coaches
that are out there aren't going to be the team
that have next year. But I'm the head coach of LSU.
Went an off awesome time to speak to my entire
fan base of Tiger fans across the country and watching
this game. But the problem with it all that's well
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and good, We've seen that happen time and time again
is what happened afterwards. And it's a video that was
grabbed of Lane kiffen leaving the stadium immediately after the
interview with ESPN, and it was such a reflection of
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everything that has gone on with Lane Kiffin over these
last couple of months and everything that has gone on
with Lane Kiffin throughout his career that just when you
think Lane Kiffin is a changed man, he tells you
again who he is and in a small moment on
Saturday night that may not seem like a big deal
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to stay through and watch the rest of your team
after the opportunity to put his mug on ESPN and
talk about his program on how excited he is he
got out of town to go and do other things.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And the lesson here is if it talks like a duck,
walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is
a duck. So I feel like Lane kiffn has fooled
maybe some of us once that is on him, fooled
us twice. That's on us, and so he is who
he is Dan. And when I saw that video, I
was just not surprised about it. I like laughed because
(22:26):
I was like, this guy, you just went to do
your TV hit and now you're leaving and you're the
new coach of this team that's currently playing. And you
couldn't stay till the end of it because I'm sure
you could have been in a suite enjoined, some food
and some cocktails.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You didn't have to do anything. Wave go ahead, soak
it all in and you leave. What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
It doesn't make any sense to me in trying to
change the narrative. Now, did Lane Kiffin know that he
was going to be recorded as he's getting into the vehicle. No,
he didn't, But you're right it doesn't matter. I can
tell you what would have happened is if ls you
and he was in a booth or in a suite
watching the conclusion of the game, If LSU is scoring
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a late touchdown or driving on the field, if he
has any sort of reaction to the players there or
the game, it tells you that he's invested with LSU.
And what it reminded me of was when the person
who is with another person that cheated thinks that they're
the ones that are going to change everything. Yep. I
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know that person cheated on five other people in previous
relationships leading up to me, But I'm the one to
change it. And that's what LSU fans are feeling that
I know he left Tennessee. I know he left Ole Miss.
He is not going to do that to us because
we are LSU and all the Ole Miss fans, heck,
(23:49):
all the Tennessee fans are getting in line to say,
it's not you, it's not you, and it's going to
happen to you.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
He already left you in his first opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Sure, this is the first opportunity to show to make
LSU fans even be more excited.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
If anyone's on the fence about it.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Why are you not there showing everybody how excited you
are to be a part of this new team. You're
so excited about the future. You should have been there, Elis.
You didn't need to score, but a nice drive, a
good play. Of course, you cut to him and you
see how the coach is reacting.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
To the team that's in front of him that.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
He's about to coach for who knows how many years,
where he's expected to come and change things and make
things the what lsu wiyh mm hmm. And instead you
do your TV hit and you leave the fact that
he did a TV hit. What if he wouldn't have
done the TV hit and he only stays for a
little bit of it that maybe it was even a
little bit better, right, Like he was not there for
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a TV hit. He was there because he wanted to
see the first half of the game, and then he left.
Maybe I wouldn't be as critical about it, but you
went and you did a TV hit and then you
just bounced.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
It's all about him. It is all about Kiffin.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I knew someone who claimed to be a sports fan,
and they would go to sporting events and they would
take their pictures and put it on Instagram and then
they would leave, and you're like, why are you? Like,
it's fine. The game that we went to on Saturday,
stayed for the whole thing. I have a photo of
Demiko Ryans who wanted to score a score board like, hey,
we're at this is the final score took that shaking hands,
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whole deal and that's we stayed for the whole game.
I know people are like first quarter screenshot gone second
quarter and I'm someone who has left early for games,
but I'm not going to give under the impression that hey,
I'm the right man for this job. Here shows up
early in the second quarter and then bounces. It's bad
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look for Lane Kiff and he has opportunity to change
the story.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Right. It's like other people could leave this game, Lane Kiff,
and you you cannot. You are like the best man
at a wedding.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
You cannot leave. Other guests can leave the wedding.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You are stuck till the end. You are the best man.
That is what this situation is.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Others could have left.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Even if you would have left the Chargers game, if
you want, you know what I'm saying, Like you are
a Sports Cup, but chargers on your team, Like, you
could have left if you wanted to, But there are
things you can't do, and this is one of them
for you, Lane, given you didn't you you could not
have left that game, and you still did. And it
just goes to show how much like you haven't changed.
It is all about you and you truly don't care
about the future of this program.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, there were pictures on the sidelines with players, but
when you're leaving midway through the second quarter of the
game after like the reason that you're there isn't to
show that you're the head coach at LSU. It's still
appear on ESPN as the head coach of LSU. I'm
gonna make one more point about Lane Kiffin, and I
don't know if I find it weird. I'm curious if
Isaac can creates or Jason feels this way. He wasn't
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wearing any LSU stuff, like like a new coach comes in.
Kyle Whittingham was introduced Yesterday's wearing a Michigan polo. If
you would have wore a suit, that's fine, polo. Yeah,
that's all it was. There's no visor, there was no
LSU any of that. But he was wearing like a
leather jacket. By the way, he looked great, looked cool,
like a hunter green evergreen sort of shirt, very casual.
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But yeah, it was about his cool look. That's what
it was about. And it wasn't about Lsu. It was
about Lane Kiffin. And I think that we saw that.
I saw that on on Saturday. And I'll tell you
you mentioned the wedding portion of it. I know who
left my wedding. I know when they left my wedding
because I remember it, and I remember when people left
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without saying goodbye, and I remember when people came up
to me and said goodbye. And we didn't have a
big wedding. We had a small wedding. I had a
small portion of that wedding. So my guess I knew
who they were, but I remember it.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You were Chandler, Lisa was my Yes, the blue pants,
you had seven blue pins.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I remember, I remember it, And so it matters. And
Lane Kiffen may not think that it matters, but it
does matter.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Of course it does. Of course it does.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And even if there was no video of him actually leaving,
but the story later came out that he left and
snuck out, it would still be the same thing. But
the fact that there's damning evidence of you leaving right
after you did an interview, I'm just like, bro, what
are you doing that?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
A car is waiting, the car is waiting for you.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Well the police escort by the way.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's just you have an opport.
It's a Saturday night in December, like your ten years
already underway. I know some of your coaches are getting
ready for their game against Georgia and the Sugar Bowl
back at Ole Miss, but that may even be more
reason to show your allegiance to LSU. Jason Stewart, I
think in.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
This day and age and social media, optics do matter.
I think perception is reality. We witnessed this and we're
a part of this. The last like year and a
half with another host on this network where they repeatedly
would be like, I was gonna watch like like Glen
Kiffin today probably says I was gonna watch all the
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game on film with my coaches. We were gonna we
were gonna watch it in detail. The problem is is
that optics do matter, and the fan base that did
see this on social media now has an impression of
you that you can't take back. So to be a
head coach and say optics don't matter because I'm doing
the work they actually do. It's a part of the
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skill set. Now you have to you kind of have
to consider these things before you do it one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It comes with the job. Now you have to make
these appearances. It's you know what I mean, Like when
you win, you're miss America. You gotta start showing up
to places you don't want to go, but you gotta
start showing up.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You're the coach. You gotta show up and you gotta.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Be there, and fair or unfair. Lane Kiffen in a
situation like this is not going to get the benefit
of the doubt. Maybe a different head coach in the
same situation with a different reputation would, but Lane's not
going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Absolutely. And here's what Lane Kivin's probably thinking, Well, if
I win twelve games and we go to the college
football Playoff, that's all that matters. And ultimately that is
what matters. Like one of the reasons why probably doesn't
need to wear LSU gear. He just needs to wear
it in season or or on game days. Is because
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LSU doesn't matter to him, nor the job matters to him.
That happens to be at LSU, that's what matters to him.
And I do think that is part of a misconception
that fans have about their coaches, especially coaches that maybe
have come to a job after eight years at one
place and six years at another. It's not Kirk Farnce
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at Iowa's bleeding black and gold. It's that these places
aren't universities where they want to be a part of.
They want to be a part of it because that's
where the job is. Do you think James Franklin was
bleeding Virginia Tech maroon and orange six months ago? No,
Now he's on viral you know, phone calls, Yes, telling
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people to choose Virginia Tech over Penn State. But guess
what James Franklin actually gets it. I don't know if
Lane Kiffin does. And just doing that in showing an
interest in LSU as a university and as a football
program outside of the job that he's going to do,
would be a different sort of role that he had
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previously had, and that would actually be seemingly caring about
the football program instead it's another job for Lane Kiffin
right now.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
When you said that, he probably would respond, well, if
I win twelve games next season, who cares, right? And
when you said that, I was like, he would say
if I win, not if we win. He would say
if I win. And that's the whole point of this.
It's like you left a school, and you left a
school headed into the college football playoff and you kind
of just left them hanging and instead of going full
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force and being like, no, this is where I wanted
to be, this is you know, I am not that guy.
I just really wanted to be a part of LSU
and the future. But yet you're not. You're not giving
me that. You're giving me something like Nah, I just
I think this is pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
It's never easy to leave, to leave parties. No, It's
like it's not the easiest thing in the world.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
But there are certain parties you can't leave, right Like,
how are you?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (32:01):
You know what I'm saying is this Grace? Is this
Grace's birthday? I can't leave.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'd stick with my girl till the end, whether I
want to be there or not.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
And that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Second question, do you think Lane Kiffen and Nick Sirianni,
you are friends, not yet, And I feel like they
would both be like, oh no, I'm not friends with
that guy.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
It's like you're both cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
But here's the thing that Lane Kiffen does that Nick
Siriani doesn't. Lane Kiffen gives you so many reasons to
want to like him, and then in the moments where
you're just about to be hooked, he disappoints you, fair right,
fair like who doesn't love When he's at ole Miss
and throughout the season he's doing interviews and he's talking
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with Nick Saban, all that stuff is great, and then
it just ends up sounding hollow and empty when he
then leaves for the job at LSU.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Which is almost worse.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, like it's it does he like brings you, Oh
that's why I fell in love with Uh? No, I didn't,
And that's it's such a letdown. I guess at least
I was gonna say, at least Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Who is I was just gonna say that sounds worse.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Lane Kiffin like brings you along this way of like
you you want to you know, you want to be
you want to be on board and then it just
it's taken out from Undia's Craziest is the biggest news
from the college football weekend outside of Michigan hiring Collin Winningham.
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Speaker 6 (34:28):
You know, Dan, You're here every Sunday. I'm here with you.
We're hanging out.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So catching an NFL game during the season is difficult
for us sometimes, yes, but you were able to sneak
in a Chargers game at Sofi Stadium this Saturday along
with Jason Stewart. I was very jealous that you guys
were going to that game, and then I wasn't because
I would have been so mad walking out of that stadium.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Well, it was an opportunity because my cousin was in
town and he wanted to go to a Chargers game.
He's talked about it for year. He's a sophomore in college,
gets straight A. A kid wants to go to a game.
Let's go to a game. And Jason and I were
able to carpool drive to the stadium. And I have
to say this, I've been to so far before. I
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was there for the Georgia TCU National championship game, which
was on a Monday night. It was raining, it was cold,
it was windy, and it was a blowout of a
football game. There wasn't a lot to enjoy, especially if
you're a TCU fan. Saturday no other games competing against
the NFL gorgeous afternoon. We got there early enough because
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I too wanted to see the stadium in all of
its glory. Mark this down if you're a football fan.
Sofi Stadium is a must see stadium in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't know if i'd put it number one. I
still think us Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is the neatest
new stadium that I've seen. But I've been fortunate enough
have been in Atlanta, have been in Vegas, had the
full experience of SOFI for what they've done with it,
and for me living in southern California knowing what that
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was previously and how they've developed it in a certain way,
it is a really really fresh place to watch a
football game, and it is a must seat. Now my
nephew or my cousin excuse me, kind of no, he's nineteen,
but family lines, he's officially my cousin is dad has
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season tickets to Packer games, so they go to two
or three Packer games at lambeau Field. And who doesn't
want to go to Lambeufield. Jason Stewart wants to go
to lambeau Field more than anything, right, who doesn't all
football fans? He loved Sofi. It's so different than what
you would experience in a place like lambeau Field that
I was worried that and I didn't know what to expect.
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I'm like, this isn't lambeau This isn't where everybody wants
to go. How is he going to take to this?
And he absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Oh, that's great, And it's a compliment coming from you
because you've been to so many different stadiums, you've been around,
and you went to Sofi on a bad, rainy day.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
That's not how you want.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
To experience so Fi because it's it is a there's
a there's a roof, and it's a dome, but it's
not there's the sides and it's open and you feel
it and when it's raining. I've also been to a
Chargers game when it's raining and it's not fun. It's
not the same as going on a nice day where
the weather is really great.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Sofi Stadium is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It looks fake.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
The first time I walked into Sofi Stadium, I thought
Harry Potter was gonna play quidditch. Like I don't know,
you probably don't know what that means, but I literally
was like, this is fake.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Ai.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yes, it just looked It's just I was like, there's
no way this is where you're actually gonna play football.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I thought the thing that was I thought that it
was close where everything was an intimate setting. Yet it
goes up so high, like where the scoreboard blocks the
five hundred level seat. Yes, but I still feel that
everybody is closer to the to the playing surface. And
just what they've done with the trees. That's what my
cousin was loving was all the greenery within the stadium
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had this new feel. I said to Jason, you know,
not the easiest to get around, no if like you're
just not walking around the concourse. But I really I
really enjoyed the in game experience and.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
There's stuff everywhere.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Because there are other stadiums where I feel like like
Angel Stadium to me is so not user friendly. I
don't like the way walking around Angel Stadium with so far,
you can get lost, but you know what, if you're lost,
you're gonna find food or a drink right away. Like
it is everywhere, everything seems easily accessible no matter where
you're sitting.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
There are some stadiums as well that you will make
a loop and you don't necessarily realize it, or when
you come to complete that loop, you become immediately dissatisfied
because you really you've walked around the entire stadium and
there isn't something there to at least grab your attention.
And I don't feel like that is the case with
so far. Jason Stewart, You've been to many a game
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at the stadium, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
A handful. And to Moncey's point, like it really depends
what the weather is up noticed and that if you
went to the championship game on a rainy night, that's
a horrible stadium. And go to a rainy, wet night
because they literally I think they have even marble or
whatever surface to where people are slipping on the concourse,
that's not a good thing. And then like when it's hot,
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if you've been there on a hot day, the whatever,
this kind of half dome half not dome thing. It
works as like a greenhouse effect and it melts the
people inside, so it's like we had a breeze coming in.
It was actually perfect conditions. You could wear a sweatshirt
and it was just a nice day. And I was
struck to by how many Charger fans because it's been
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two or three seasons since I've been to a game,
and when I first started going to the when the
Chargers first got to LA at the Home Depot Center,
it was like seventy five percent the other fans, and
I was very pleased to see. I don't know, maybe
you could tell me if I'm wrong, Dan, probably like
eighty twenty was the ratio in a seventy thousand capacity stadium.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I was surprised as well. I put a TikTok up
at buyer talk of the Charger fans at one point
during the fourth quarter, and of course I just made
the line, you know who says there aren't Charger fans,
But because this stadium was full of fans. Now, I
think there was one interesting reason in eighty twenty I'd
maybe even say eighty five point fifteen in favor of
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the Charger fans. Is because the Texans still in NFL
relative fan base are fairly new, so that is that
that was the one caveat. But it wasn't like there
were empty seats, and it did get loud when the
Chargers were trying to do things on defense to try
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to rattle c. J. Stroud. So those fans were there.
So I don't know if it's all the fans selling
their tickets to Broncos fans and if the same thing
with the Rams, if it's the same thing with the
forty nine ers, but I know what the Texans, And
it's not to say that Texans don't have a strong
fan base. It's just a newer fan base and you
aren't going to get the tradition of a division rival
and everything that comes with its. Yeah, yeah, it was
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just there were a smaller contingent. I talked to, you know,
talk to a guy that I know there, he Goes.
You should have seen it with the Eagles fans here
for the Monday night game. It was he Goes. It
was crazy. It was full of Philadelphia and they all
love Nick Sirianni for whatever reason, but it was it
was quite the experience. And then Manzi, the cool thing
about it is so we had we had really good
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parking outside and then as we were about to leave,
a guy came up to me and asked me to
use my phone. So I thought that that was that
was that was That was great as well.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
That's awesome the fact that you looked friendly enough.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, I've done that. I'm sure it wasn't shady
at all. Who needs a phone?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I left my phone one time when I was going
to work at Universal Studios and I couldn't get a
hold of I left it at work and I went
up to a guy that looked decent and I was like,
I'm not crazy, can I borrow your phone?
Speaker 6 (42:12):
So trust me, I've been in that position.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, you seemed welcoming enough to ask for your phone.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Very different situation that Massey explain.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah, that is not that is not it at all.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
What you said Dan might look friendly enough to approach.
I was thinking, maybe he looks like the biggest sucka
that yeah, he'll actually give him his phone and the
guy would walk off with it or install some kind
of a virus on it. I don't know what his
intentions were.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He didn't or that he could beat me in a race.
Maybe that was the reason why if he took off
with my phone. But he came up to me, he says,
can I use your phone? He didn't say, oh my gosh,
I lost my phone.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Oh I see, I don't.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Know where we're parked. Can I have it? I still
wouldn't have given him the phone at that.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Point, sure, but then no, very different there, my bad.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Yeah, So that was that was odd at about four
forty local time, still in the daylight.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
It's a very intrusive ask because if if somebody comes
up to you, you're assuming they're going to ask you
for money or and this guy, he seemed a little inebriated,
he's gonna ask you for like a smoke, and both
of those are reason to be like, I don't have change.
Or you can't say I don't have my phone. I'm sorry,
that's that's not you can't even use that as an excuse.
So when you say no, you're basically just saying I
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could definitely help you, but I'm choosing not to.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
So he what did you do? What did you say?
Because for why I would have been like, why no.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
I just said sorry, man, can't do it.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I don't have a phone.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, I don't have a phone. I only write notes,
I only use regular mail.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
I only have an iPod from back end.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I just said no, like I, no, you can't use it.
And then he asked again and I'm like, sorry, man,
can't do it. And he's like, all right, have a
good day. Like so he wasn't even mad about it,
so obviously he didn't necessarily care.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
I would have been like, why what do you need
my phone for?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And then when we left the stadium, because I get
a carpool adjacent, we were in traffic for about an
hour and then his ways took us aways where we
started driving on side streets and.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Making side streets in Inglewood.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, making left turns across across four lanes of traffic
at a stop sign. It was it was quite the adventure.
But we were able to drop off Jacob at a
pizza place, not to go inside. That's just where we
met him, and then we drove home.
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Why are you guys using ways when you know there's
no way around it.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I know that was a huge mistake. Just just do it.
Just suck it up, because way is this going to
save you ten seconds maybe as opposed to just doing
it straight.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Like to save ten seconds and choose this route. You
made it. We were taking on some backstreets, but still
I recommend Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
I just got done telling Dan that I always think
about it when I'm pulling out of any event at Inglewood,
so whether it's a concert at the Forum or an
old Lakers game or whatever that there's a movie in
the eighties I don't know if you remember this or not,
called Grand Canyon. Steve Martin stars and he leaves a
Laker game and then takes the wrong turn into the
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wrong neighborhood and Danny Glover saves his life. Anyways, I
always think about that scene, like who would be dumb
enough to make a wrong turn in Inglewood? And I
did on Sunday on Saturday, as I'm taking my son
Dan and his cousin home from the from the Charger game,
I took a wrong turn in the wrong neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
That was great. It was still a good time, though,
made it home to have a gas leak in our neighborhood.
So that's what. Oh yeah, a story, but I what
a great capper of a weekend. That probably should have
been my hate in Love and Hate earlier in the
show was I was told that I sound like, get
off my lawn guy, and no if you were on
my lawn after my fall, receding like you you have
(45:56):
no idea what get off my lawn guy is? No
one is touching my lawn in October. I have no
because I had my stakes out, my tape around it, lawnmower,
you're not mowing on it. Like, yeah, we are overseating
for winter. If you want get off my lawn guy, yeah,
(46:17):
deal with me in October. You don't want to deal
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Isaac talked about the Chargers in them a benching justin
Herbert and I think we're going to see a variety
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of different things throughout the NFL on how teams will
approach Week eighteen when you've already clinched a playoff Berth,
I think the Chargers look at it as what's the
difference between five six or seven. Yep, right, So what
they're in, they're not going to win the division. They're
gonna have to go on the road, they'll have to
play whoever. But I feel that it is also quite
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the commentary on the matchups that we have where we
don't know who is who. It's to be careful what
you wish for sort of thing where I always go
back to the twenty nineteen Eastern Conference semis when Kawhi
hits that shot against the seventy six ers. I was
so relieved because the Bucks then didn't have to play
Philadelphia and in the Eastern Conference finals, and then we
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see what happens. Be careful what you wish for. I
know NFL teams don't do that, but the Chargers, if
they were to play Herbert to try to get a
better seed in a certain way, you're putting Herbert at risk.
The Texans have a game against the Colts that you
think that they're probably going to try to win, and
they'll be the fifth seed. So if there was an
advantage to go to Pittsburgh or Baltimore as the other ones,
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they're probably going to have that edge. But you don't
know what's going to happen at the top. You know,
there could be something crazy that happens. But with the
Chargers not playing their starters, they're basically guaranteeing the Broncos
the number one overall seed. Now, if the Chargers can
win their first game, that also allows them to go
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to Denver. Very likely in that scenarios they would be
a lower seed. Maybe not, maybe Buffalo has a seven
seed upset someone, but then it would allow them to
go to Denver and play the Broncos in a meaningful game,
and it would be against the team they beat earlier
this season.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yeah, you can try and plan out, but it can
backfire on you.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Sure, And I do think.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
That if Justin Herbert was not banged up the way
he is, he probably would have played at least a
little bit. But I think at this point the Chargers
are doing the right decision and not benching him, resting him.
But it's because he's because he just had surgery ten
days ago. Like you know what I'm saying, We forget
that he's literally wearing a cast. Now, we don't forget that,
(48:44):
but you get I'm saying. So I think that's a
big reason. But you're right, they're kind of just like,
all right, we're in it, and let's see what happens.
Let's try not to mess with faith.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yeah, you can't. You can't predict what's going to happen.
We think we know how it's going to sort out,
just like without last year. We knew how the nf
he was going to be and then a bunch of
stuff changed when the Bears beat the Packers, and so
instead of instead of trying to predict, when you just
take care of yourself
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between Christmas and New Year, and then you have to
pretend that you're going back to work. Not us, but
normal people who have normal jobs and they have to
go work for two days and then they go back
on vacation.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I felt sorry for those that were on the roads
this morning going to work. Yep, a bit of empathy,
yeah for them back to normal for two days. But
if you're done with the work now, hey, good Anya, job,
well done, that's right. Use those days when the sun
is shining and you're out at the lake and having
a good time. That's how you look at it. Isaac
(01:00):
long Grand is here on this weird Monday. What's going on? Isaac?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't mind, because the roads are clear and there's
less traffic. I wish it was like that all.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Though, But remember Isaac told me when I said the weekends,
He's like, there's always traffic here on Saturday as well.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Weird dichotomy.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
There is serving that in my face. Jason Stewart backed
me over a uh, actually put me under a semi
earlier for my Aaron Glenn take. He is with.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Us, everybody and more of that this show. More about
this show, throwing Dan under the bus?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Yes, Jan, how many people have agreed with you on
the bills decision?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
So are Jason and I are the only ones, even
Michael Badgeley apparently.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Again, that's karma for the OJ Jersey. Chris Purfett didn't
agree with Jason and myself. He is our technical producer.
What's going on, Chris overtime?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It is an abomination of the eyes of God. I
don't need you settle it in sixty minutes. I'm not interested.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
The only thing that I now look back and say,
Sean McDermott, why didn't she kick the extra point? The
only thing that would have made me want him to
go for two is if I knew that they were
guaranteed to win. So we didn't have to deal with
Nick Siriani once again. I may be wrong on my
eron Glenn take, but I am a million percent wrong
(02:18):
in thinking that the success of Super Bowl fifty nine
for the Philadelphia Eagles, a victory over the Kansas City Chiefs,
the ability to hoist the Lombardi Trophy Monzi would make
Nick Siriani a changed man, a new man, a man
who has accomplished so much. But lets others talk about it,
(02:41):
that is not necessarily the case.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Nope, not even a little bit. This guy is like
more immature this year, I feel like than the last
couple of years.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
And it's just such a turn.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Actin like you've been there before, Act like you are
the adult in the room. But I feel like he's
the adult in the room. And you have a room
with aj Brown and you're still not the adult in
the room.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
So like, that's even crazier.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Jalen Hurts had to play the role of the adult
in the room in every room, and a lot of
times with Nick Sirianni. I remember in Super Bowl fifty
seven when Syriann's yelling at the officials, Movie's yelling at
some Chiefs players, Jalen Hurts is like, all right, let's
just focus on this play. Nick Sirianni will take every
opportunity to rub it in your face. And if you
(03:27):
don't believe me, this is what it sounded like last
night when Nick Sirianni ended up talking to the media
after the game.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
If you come out of this and you have you're
and you're just thinking about all the negative things that happened,
that makes for a miserable existence. We'll get there, we'll
get to what we need to clean up. And you know,
a really good first half by the offense, not a
great second half and a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Why. Okay, that's coach speak. Yeah, that seems sounding like
a coach. What is a miserable experiences? Seeing him, for
another time, yelling at opposing fans in a tunnel after
a win where a win was given because of a
bad decision by the other team's head coach. Seeing Nick
(04:15):
Sirianni yelling and swearing and having those words, while not
directed at fans, Monci, we're directed at fans. It wasn't
just the national media. The national media was saying, guess
what this Eagles Bills game is kind of weird because
it's so late in the season. Eagles only have a
couple of spots to move. The Bills are a long
shot to make the AFC East. This isn't as great
of a matchup as it's great on paper. It's great
(04:36):
to watch, but for what it actually meant in Week seventeen,
maybe didn't mean as much as it would have early
on in the season when Nick Sirianni decided to just
yell at everybody as again in a tunnel, like we
saw a couple of years ago in Kansas City when
the Eagles went and beat the Chiefs after losing the
Super Bowl the year prior. Nick Sirianni always wanting to
(04:56):
grab his pound of flesh on the way out, And
it's just really getting.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Old, it really is, and it's crazy that it hasn't changed.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
He's walking to.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The locker room yelling at fans that aren't around because
he's walking in a tunnel, but like yelling, not so
much talking now. And I'm just I'm confused. Did you
win the game or did Josh Allen just lose the game?
Because I don't think you won the game, Nick Sirianni.
I don't think you made some crazy play since made
some crazy call that the Eagles went out there and
won the game.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
The Eagles just survived it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And then you want to yell who's doing or no
more talking now when Aj Brown looks at his coach.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Like you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And again Aj Brown, who has been a topic of
conversation also this season for last season, a topic of
conversation in his own way because he just wants the ball.
Here you have Nick Sirianni acting a fool after surviving
a game that, again, what mega implications did it have?
Didn't it didn't really have anything. You're just getting ready
(05:55):
to go into the postseason. Both of these teams.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
You're defending champion, act like it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know, it's worse than a sore loser, a sore winner, Dan,
And that's what that guy is.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
One hundred percent. You're so spot on. And it's not
the first or second time, no what that we've seen it.
In fact, it's it could be the third or fourth time.
Because I also remember when the Eagles played the Indianapolis Colts. Now,
Nick Sirianni had coached under Frank Reich with the Indianapolis
(06:26):
Colts prior to a stint with the Philadelphia Eagles. Well,
the Colts ended up dis missing Frank Reich and Nick
Sirianni and the Eagles went to Indianapolis, played a game
barely won, and Nick Sirianni is yelling and I get
standing up for your coach, but yelling at the fans
this one's for Frank Reich. Well yeah, well the fans
probably didn't like Frank Reike because the Colts stunk. Why
(06:49):
is it their problem? And yeah, they just lost the game.
The Bills fans after sitting out there for three and
a half hours in a rainstorm, not saying too much. Ems,
I'm not surprised with all of that. But to your
point of Aj Brown is even rolling his eyes. It
it really annoys me that Nick Sirianni has a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Ring mm hmmm the key and a recent one, not
one twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
No, he's yeah, that he's it's it's it. It annoys me,
And it wouldn't have mattered Manzi, just because there is
such a select few that get that ability to win
a Super Bowl. We know how difficult it is for
players to win. Quarterbacks Dan Marino is still talked about,
but for him to have one just bothers me.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, because you know he'll throw it in your face
every opportunity he gets, no matter the situation, he's gonna
be like showing you, just like Shador Sanders does the
watch thing.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
He's just gonna show you his ring. Sure, and that's
that's gonna be something he can hold onto forever.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
In that video of him yelling at and where aj
Brown looks at him, he also is an idiot. It's
like you don't know where the locker room is. You
ran right into the camera. You walked into the camera
and then have to do, oh my bad, I'm going
this way. Oh it is your first time year.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Now, they're not there every year. You know. It is
an AFC stadium, but you know, and the good things
they get a new stadia.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
You don't see cameras every game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm sure this camera was not a hitting camera that
was on a little pin wearing that a guy was wearing.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
I'm sure this camera was.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Giant and you saw it as you were walking down
to go to the locker room and you didn't even
know where to make your turn.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Hey, it didn't it didn't end on a high note, idiot,
It didn't end on a high note. I don't mind.
I don't mind having confidence in your ce that.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
What this is no and again, what did you do?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
This is bratt behavior. Yeah, his offense and I don't
know if you know this. They completed zero passes in
the second half of yesterday's game against the Bill. Yes,
and he's the offensive guy. And now that's that's where
his background is now. He's taken more of a CEO approach.
But the problem with the offense, of the problem with
the Egos this year has been their offense. It wasn't
(08:51):
as good as it was last year. And he's even
tried to interfere with some of that. But yesterday was
not a banner day for the Philadelphia Eagles, especially against
the Bills defense that you've pointed out is not the
strongest out there. So just to have your team survive
with eighteen total yards in the second half is just
a really weird, humble break again.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
A brag about what And it's like nobody else is
joining you in on this, So all you're doing is
separating yourself from again a player on your team that
is already a controversial one in aj Brown. I wish
it would have been Jalen Hurts next to him, because
then Jalen Hurts probably really would have given him a
dirty look.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I feel like I've seen that, but.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
It just adds to it the fact that aj Brown
is judging you.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
That's how do you not see that?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I don't know, because it happened right in front of him.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Yeah, and I did.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Even Wherewithal, I'm a big like wherewith all is my
word of the month. I think, yeah, zero, Wherewithal? With
Nick Sirianni, Act like you've.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Been there, Act like you just won the Super Bowl
last year.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Act like you didn't just Act like you survived a
game that you probably were on the verge of losing.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Act like that, keep your head down and get into
the locker room.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer, can't.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
We all agree that he probably would not have won
if mcdrumott would have decided to kick the extra point
and got overtime. We're all in agreement.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
He could have still won.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
We would have been we would have been saved from
this sort of reaction. Like think, think of all the
great coaches, think of just great coaches in history, Like
I'm a big Mike Holmgren guy, all right. You know,
he went to the Packers, turned them around and went
to the Seahawks, led the Seahawks to the Super Bowl.
He's one and two in Super Bowls. Like he's got
(10:40):
the same number of rings as Nick Sirianni. And it
like it bothers me, like it ticks me off. You
can think of the coaches that were able to just
get one. I mean, we're looking at to get to
Mike Shanahan, Jimmy Johnson like he is. He is one
more ring away, and it could even happen this.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
To say, from a chance to another one.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And somehow everything is put together. He's he's had in
years past, the best, the best roster in the National
Football League. Many people give the credit to Howie Roseman,
but none of that has humbled him. I was hoping
Super Bowl fifty nine would have humbled Nick Sirianni. Not
a basically meaningless game in Week seventeen. I get. The
(11:23):
counterpart is is he's such a competitor. Well that's that's
don't act the way that that he acts in this
petulant child sort of way after these victories where he
wants to have the last laugh on the fans in
the stadium because it's not the first, not the second
or the third time we've seen this.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
It's almost like he's the mascot.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, he's like the mascot, and that's not a good
thing when you're the head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
No, but that look on his face. I don't want
to say it, but it's just it's just like, man,
are you that much of a jerk?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
It seems that right, It absolutely seems that way. It's
it's hard to defend. And then like you're you're talking
about being Oh, I'm competitive.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I'm a competitor. That's not what this is.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And I feel like you are literally filled with competitors.
If you have a super Bowl winning team, you have
Jalen Hurts, who all he does is get criticized and
have to go out there and be competitive.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
We just got a tweet from Mike who says haters
hate hater. But what he did was he put a
graphic of the It says go Eagles with like a
foam finger. Though there are his own Eagles players are
fat up with it. Yeah, this isn't an Eagles thing,
this isn't a Philadelphia thing. Yeah, this is a Nick
(12:42):
Sirianni thing. That's what this is. And that's the part
that I just I thought it was all done. I
thought it was all gone after last year, and apparently
it's not. And it was tough to root for the
Eagles already. This makes it even more different.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Who sent that tweet? What's the name of the he's
an Eagles fan? You say yes, because that would be
my point, Like, he's the one head coach that takes
on the personality of his fan base and that's not
what you're supposed to do as a head coach. Like
all the Eagles fans, as that Twitter account is pointing out,
they support this kind of attitude. It's like, yeah, that's
(13:16):
how I would act if I was a head coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think if you were to survey who maybe some
of the worst fan bases are.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I think a lot of people about Philadelphia. Yeah, that's
not a good thing.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Oh they bink Santa Claus. You can't you can't escape. Yeah,
you can't escape Michael Irvin on the turf and being
carted off ending his career and having you know, cheers
happening because of that. Yeah, that stuff sticks with you,
absolutely does. I just you know, I after seeing the video.
(13:53):
By the way, it wasn't just a Bills game. The
other portion of it is I bring up the competitor
aspect of it, because I with these games where there's
little value, there is a competitor in you that always
wants to compete. And I think that is probably a
part of Nick Sirianni. But for someone who has a
(14:14):
Super Bowl ring, you now know the difference of winning
a super Bowl and winning a regular season game, and
he can't separate the two. And you go back to
the Kobe Bryant. Job's not finished. Job's not finished?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Anybody, yeah, ever, ever, Well.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
The point is is that this action by Nick Sirianni
sure makes it feel like it's jobs finished. And it's
not like there's nothing to celebrate, there's nothing to taunt.
It's just stay on point. And that's all that I
think that we would want from our head coach or
any head coach. And to here point about aj Brown
being the adult in the room here, I don't know
(14:54):
if you found that in chapter fourteen of the book
that he reads on the sidelines, but maybe Nick Sirianni
needs to read it.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Absolutely that's the funniest part of that video is that
it's with AJ Brown and AJ Brown is giving him
a look of embarrassment.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
That's the best part of the video.
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Speaker 5 (16:11):
Sorry, let me find this? Where was this?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Here?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
It is? This is what I've been looking for the
entire show.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Don't I sound better?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Here we go? Feels appropriate for right now? I know
it's not even in the chair. Well, I've never done
that before.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Can we have another Keith Jackson off between between Jason
and our next introduced.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
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Speaker 4 (16:42):
Keith? Keith Jackson off is when Isaac.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
You got you gotta say that very slowly?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, I know I do. When Isaac and Jason go
back and forth with their Keith Jackson impressions, now sprinkled
in with Matzi losing her voice, I really thought, so
can we get a little bit more of the Keith
Jackson off?
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
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Oh my absolute.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Favorite face hurts.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That was funny.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Chris, my face hurts. I thought I sounded better. I
really did.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Let's I would Keith Jackson throw it down to Mancy
Bolangos on the sideline?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Why not tell you? Down on the sideline. We got
a little lady who is a big fan of those
Los Angeles Chargers. You can find her on social media.
Where can we find you with social media? Okay, at
mons here she is down on the sideline of the
Rose Well Monsey Bolognios.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
That's pretty good, thank you, Yeah, little lady like Chris Chris.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Best I can do is Dennis Miller.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
No, I not, I'm play the Manzi trop Oh okay,
that's yes, Yes.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
That sound better.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
There we go that that's what we needed.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We got it, We got it, we got it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
It all made sense.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You sure you weren't asking for what ABC broadcaster Chris
Purffect could be do an impersonation of in that moment?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He can only let's hey, what about if Keith Jackson
was alongside Dennis Miller in the booth?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Keith Jackson and uh No, the only thing I practiced
for it was the offense is now live in Carolina?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Why do not tell you? Dennis? ABC asked me to
give you a shot, and I have no idea what
the hell you've been talking about for the last quarter
and a half? Right, boy, money, where is Frank Broyle's
when I need him?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Okay, well then very much. It's all right. There we go.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I got a me and Dan Diardorf.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I loved. I'd love to hear my favorite thing about
Monday night football. I've brought this up before. In the
old days of Frank Allen Dan Frank Gifford was such
the face of Monday night football. He wasn't the play
by play guy, but he brought in Al Michaels, the
play by play guy. So you know how like you
will watch Sunny night football, Mike Turrico is there and
then Chris Collinsworth comes in. This like, Frank Gifford would
(19:21):
do his stand you know, stand up shot, and then
he would bring in the play by play guy al Michaels,
and then he would bring in Dan Diardorf, and then
al Michaels would take over the play by play. That's
how it was, Yes, a little different. Sometimes he would
have coaches up in the booth as well, maybe maybe
former players, and that's that goes on nowadays, And in fact,
(19:42):
it went on during the Texas Bowl in Houston this
past weekend. ESPN broadcasting the game, and this is a
doozy LSU is playing Houston. The game was on. It
was late enough on the West Coast that I wasn't
sure if the game was still on or it was
just a re play from earlier in the day because
we were at the Chargers Texans game. But turn it on.
(20:04):
Look at my phone. Yep, all right, there's ninety seconds
left and Houston's winning this game. And didn't really pay
any attention to it until I saw the aftermath of
college from the college football fans and Lane Kiffin, the
new head coach at LSU, appeared on the ESPN broadcast
of the Texas Bowl between the LSU and Houston as
(20:27):
you would as much screen time as you can get.
It's why you see college basketball coaches if their team
gets bounced from the tournament, they want to be on
CBS the next week so recruits can see them and
know them and say, oh, okay, I'm familiar with coach,
look at him. They'll jump at the chance. The smart
coaches do that, and you see big name coaches do that.
So Lane Kiffin understands that's part of the deal. Guess what,
(20:49):
I'm the new LSU head coach. The team that's out
there right now is not going to be the team
that we're going to have next year, and the coaches
that are out there aren't going to be the team
that have next year. But I'm the head coach of LSU.
Went an off awesome time to speak to my entire
fan base of Tiger fans across the country and watching
this game. But the problem with it all that's well
(21:10):
and good, We've seen that happen time and time again
is what happened afterwards. And it's a video that was
grabbed of Lane kiffen leaving the stadium immediately after the
interview with ESPN, and it was such a reflection of
(21:30):
everything that has gone on with Lane Kiffin over these
last couple of months and everything that has gone on
with Lane Kiffin throughout his career that just when you
think Lane Kiffin is a changed man, he tells you
again who he is and in a small moment on
Saturday night that may not seem like a big deal
(21:53):
to stay through and watch the rest of your team
after the opportunity to put his mug on ESPN and
talk about his program on how excited he is he
got out of town to go and do other things.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And the lesson here is if it talks like a duck,
walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is
a duck. So I feel like Lane kiffn has fooled
maybe some of us once that is on him, fooled
us twice. That's on us, and so he is who
he is Dan. And when I saw that video, I
was just not surprised about it. I like laughed because
(22:26):
I was like, this guy, you just went to do
your TV hit and now you're leaving and you're the
new coach of this team that's currently playing. And you
couldn't stay till the end of it because I'm sure
you could have been in a suite enjoined, some food
and some cocktails.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You didn't have to do anything. Wave go ahead, soak
it all in and you leave. What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
It doesn't make any sense to me in trying to
change the narrative. Now, did Lane Kiffin know that he
was going to be recorded as he's getting into the vehicle. No,
he didn't, But you're right it doesn't matter. I can
tell you what would have happened is if ls you
and he was in a booth or in a suite
watching the conclusion of the game, If LSU is scoring
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a late touchdown or driving on the field, if he
has any sort of reaction to the players there or
the game, it tells you that he's invested with LSU.
And what it reminded me of was when the person
who is with another person that cheated thinks that they're
the ones that are going to change everything. Yep. I
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know that person cheated on five other people in previous
relationships leading up to me, But I'm the one to
change it. And that's what LSU fans are feeling that
I know he left Tennessee. I know he left Ole Miss.
He is not going to do that to us because
we are LSU and all the Ole Miss fans, heck,
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all the Tennessee fans are getting in line to say,
it's not you, it's not you, and it's going to
happen to you.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
He already left you in his first opportunity here.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Sure, this is the first opportunity to show to make
LSU fans even be more excited.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
If anyone's on the fence about it.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Why are you not there showing everybody how excited you
are to be a part of this new team. You're
so excited about the future. You should have been there, Elis.
You didn't need to score, but a nice drive, a
good play. Of course, you cut to him and you
see how the coach is reacting.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
To the team that's in front of him that.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
He's about to coach for who knows how many years,
where he's expected to come and change things and make
things the what lsu wiyh mm hmm. And instead you
do your TV hit and you leave the fact that
he did a TV hit. What if he wouldn't have
done the TV hit and he only stays for a
little bit of it that maybe it was even a
little bit better, right, Like he was not there for
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a TV hit. He was there because he wanted to
see the first half of the game, and then he left.
Maybe I wouldn't be as critical about it, but you
went and you did a TV hit and then you
just bounced.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
It's all about him. It is all about Kiffin.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I knew someone who claimed to be a sports fan,
and they would go to sporting events and they would
take their pictures and put it on Instagram and then
they would leave, and you're like, why are you? Like,
it's fine. The game that we went to on Saturday,
stayed for the whole thing. I have a photo of
Demiko Ryans who wanted to score a score board like, hey,
we're at this is the final score took that shaking hands,
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whole deal and that's we stayed for the whole game.
I know people are like first quarter screenshot gone second
quarter and I'm someone who has left early for games,
but I'm not going to give under the impression that hey,
I'm the right man for this job. Here shows up
early in the second quarter and then bounces. It's bad
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look for Lane Kiff and he has opportunity to change
the story.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Right. It's like other people could leave this game, Lane Kiff,
and you you cannot. You are like the best man
at a wedding.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
You cannot leave. Other guests can leave the wedding.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You are stuck till the end. You are the best man.
That is what this situation is.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Others could have left.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Even if you would have left the Chargers game, if
you want, you know what I'm saying, Like you are
a Sports Cup, but chargers on your team, Like, you
could have left if you wanted to, But there are
things you can't do, and this is one of them
for you, Lane, given you didn't you you could not
have left that game, and you still did. And it
just goes to show how much like you haven't changed.
It is all about you and you truly don't care
about the future of this program.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, there were pictures on the sidelines with players, but
when you're leaving midway through the second quarter of the
game after like the reason that you're there isn't to
show that you're the head coach at LSU. It's still
appear on ESPN as the head coach of LSU. I'm
gonna make one more point about Lane Kiffin, and I
don't know if I find it weird. I'm curious if
Isaac can creates or Jason feels this way. He wasn't
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wearing any LSU stuff, like like a new coach comes in.
Kyle Whittingham was introduced Yesterday's wearing a Michigan polo. If
you would have wore a suit, that's fine, polo. Yeah,
that's all it was. There's no visor, there was no
LSU any of that. But he was wearing like a
leather jacket. By the way, he looked great, looked cool,
like a hunter green evergreen sort of shirt, very casual.
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But yeah, it was about his cool look. That's what
it was about. And it wasn't about Lsu. It was
about Lane Kiffin. And I think that we saw that.
I saw that on on Saturday. And I'll tell you
you mentioned the wedding portion of it. I know who
left my wedding. I know when they left my wedding
because I remember it, and I remember when people left
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without saying goodbye, and I remember when people came up
to me and said goodbye. And we didn't have a
big wedding. We had a small wedding. I had a
small portion of that wedding. So my guess I knew
who they were, but I remember it.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You were Chandler, Lisa was my Yes, the blue pants,
you had seven blue pins.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I remember, I remember it, And so it matters. And
Lane Kiffen may not think that it matters, but it
does matter.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Of course it does. Of course it does.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And even if there was no video of him actually leaving,
but the story later came out that he left and
snuck out, it would still be the same thing. But
the fact that there's damning evidence of you leaving right
after you did an interview, I'm just like, bro, what
are you doing that?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
A car is waiting, the car is waiting for you.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Well the police escort by the way.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's just you have an opport.
It's a Saturday night in December, like your ten years
already underway. I know some of your coaches are getting
ready for their game against Georgia and the Sugar Bowl
back at Ole Miss, but that may even be more
reason to show your allegiance to LSU. Jason Stewart, I
think in.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
This day and age and social media, optics do matter.
I think perception is reality. We witnessed this and we're
a part of this. The last like year and a
half with another host on this network where they repeatedly
would be like, I was gonna watch like like Glen
Kiffin today probably says I was gonna watch all the
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game on film with my coaches. We were gonna we
were gonna watch it in detail. The problem is is
that optics do matter, and the fan base that did
see this on social media now has an impression of
you that you can't take back. So to be a
head coach and say optics don't matter because I'm doing
the work they actually do. It's a part of the
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skill set. Now you have to you kind of have
to consider these things before you do it one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It comes with the job. Now you have to make
these appearances. It's you know what I mean, Like when
you win, you're miss America. You gotta start showing up
to places you don't want to go, but you gotta
start showing up.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You're the coach. You gotta show up and you gotta.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Be there, and fair or unfair. Lane Kiffen in a
situation like this is not going to get the benefit
of the doubt. Maybe a different head coach in the
same situation with a different reputation would, but Lane's not
going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Absolutely. And here's what Lane Kivin's probably thinking, Well, if
I win twelve games and we go to the college
football Playoff, that's all that matters. And ultimately that is
what matters. Like one of the reasons why probably doesn't
need to wear LSU gear. He just needs to wear
it in season or or on game days. Is because
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LSU doesn't matter to him, nor the job matters to him.
That happens to be at LSU, that's what matters to him.
And I do think that is part of a misconception
that fans have about their coaches, especially coaches that maybe
have come to a job after eight years at one
place and six years at another. It's not Kirk Farnce
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at Iowa's bleeding black and gold. It's that these places
aren't universities where they want to be a part of.
They want to be a part of it because that's
where the job is. Do you think James Franklin was
bleeding Virginia Tech maroon and orange six months ago? No,
Now he's on viral you know, phone calls, Yes, telling
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people to choose Virginia Tech over Penn State. But guess
what James Franklin actually gets it. I don't know if
Lane Kiffin does. And just doing that in showing an
interest in LSU as a university and as a football
program outside of the job that he's going to do,
would be a different sort of role that he had
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previously had, and that would actually be seemingly caring about
the football program instead it's another job for Lane Kiffin
right now.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
When you said that, he probably would respond, well, if
I win twelve games next season, who cares, right? And
when you said that, I was like, he would say
if I win, not if we win. He would say
if I win. And that's the whole point of this.
It's like you left a school, and you left a
school headed into the college football playoff and you kind
of just left them hanging and instead of going full
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force and being like, no, this is where I wanted
to be, this is you know, I am not that guy.
I just really wanted to be a part of LSU
and the future. But yet you're not. You're not giving
me that. You're giving me something like Nah, I just
I think this is pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
It's never easy to leave, to leave parties. No, It's
like it's not the easiest thing in the world.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
But there are certain parties you can't leave, right Like,
how are you?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (32:01):
You know what I'm saying is this Grace? Is this
Grace's birthday? I can't leave.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'd stick with my girl till the end, whether I
want to be there or not.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
And that's it.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Second question, do you think Lane Kiffen and Nick Sirianni,
you are friends, not yet, And I feel like they
would both be like, oh no, I'm not friends with
that guy.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
It's like you're both cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
But here's the thing that Lane Kiffen does that Nick
Siriani doesn't. Lane Kiffen gives you so many reasons to
want to like him, and then in the moments where
you're just about to be hooked, he disappoints you, fair right,
fair like who doesn't love When he's at ole Miss
and throughout the season he's doing interviews and he's talking
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with Nick Saban, all that stuff is great, and then
it just ends up sounding hollow and empty when he
then leaves for the job at LSU.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Which is almost worse.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, like it's it does he like brings you, Oh
that's why I fell in love with Uh? No, I didn't,
And that's it's such a letdown. I guess at least
I was gonna say, at least Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Who is I was just gonna say that sounds worse.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Lane Kiffin like brings you along this way of like
you you want to you know, you want to be
you want to be on board and then it just
it's taken out from Undia's Craziest is the biggest news
from the college football weekend outside of Michigan hiring Collin Winningham.
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Speaker 6 (34:28):
You know, Dan, You're here every Sunday. I'm here with you.
We're hanging out.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So catching an NFL game during the season is difficult
for us sometimes, yes, but you were able to sneak
in a Chargers game at Sofi Stadium this Saturday along
with Jason Stewart. I was very jealous that you guys
were going to that game, and then I wasn't because
I would have been so mad walking out of that stadium.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Well, it was an opportunity because my cousin was in
town and he wanted to go to a Chargers game.
He's talked about it for year. He's a sophomore in college,
gets straight A. A kid wants to go to a game.
Let's go to a game. And Jason and I were
able to carpool drive to the stadium. And I have
to say this, I've been to so far before. I
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was there for the Georgia TCU National championship game, which
was on a Monday night. It was raining, it was cold,
it was windy, and it was a blowout of a
football game. There wasn't a lot to enjoy, especially if
you're a TCU fan. Saturday no other games competing against
the NFL gorgeous afternoon. We got there early enough because
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I too wanted to see the stadium in all of
its glory. Mark this down if you're a football fan.
Sofi Stadium is a must see stadium in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't know if i'd put it number one. I
still think us Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is the neatest
new stadium that I've seen. But I've been fortunate enough
have been in Atlanta, have been in Vegas, had the
full experience of SOFI for what they've done with it,
and for me living in southern California knowing what that
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was previously and how they've developed it in a certain way,
it is a really really fresh place to watch a
football game, and it is a must seat. Now my
nephew or my cousin excuse me, kind of no, he's nineteen,
but family lines, he's officially my cousin is dad has
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season tickets to Packer games, so they go to two
or three Packer games at lambeau Field. And who doesn't
want to go to Lambeufield. Jason Stewart wants to go
to lambeau Field more than anything, right, who doesn't all
football fans? He loved Sofi. It's so different than what
you would experience in a place like lambeau Field that
I was worried that and I didn't know what to expect.
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I'm like, this isn't lambeau This isn't where everybody wants
to go. How is he going to take to this?
And he absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Oh, that's great, And it's a compliment coming from you
because you've been to so many different stadiums, you've been around,
and you went to Sofi on a bad, rainy day.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
That's not how you want.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
To experience so Fi because it's it is a there's
a there's a roof, and it's a dome, but it's
not there's the sides and it's open and you feel
it and when it's raining. I've also been to a
Chargers game when it's raining and it's not fun. It's
not the same as going on a nice day where
the weather is really great.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Sofi Stadium is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It looks fake.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
The first time I walked into Sofi Stadium, I thought
Harry Potter was gonna play quidditch. Like I don't know,
you probably don't know what that means, but I literally
was like, this is fake.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Ai.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yes, it just looked It's just I was like, there's
no way this is where you're actually gonna play football.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I thought the thing that was I thought that it
was close where everything was an intimate setting. Yet it
goes up so high, like where the scoreboard blocks the
five hundred level seat. Yes, but I still feel that
everybody is closer to the to the playing surface. And
just what they've done with the trees. That's what my
cousin was loving was all the greenery within the stadium
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had this new feel. I said to Jason, you know,
not the easiest to get around, no if like you're
just not walking around the concourse. But I really I
really enjoyed the in game experience and.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
There's stuff everywhere.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Because there are other stadiums where I feel like like
Angel Stadium to me is so not user friendly. I
don't like the way walking around Angel Stadium with so far,
you can get lost, but you know what, if you're lost,
you're gonna find food or a drink right away. Like
it is everywhere, everything seems easily accessible no matter where
you're sitting.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
There are some stadiums as well that you will make
a loop and you don't necessarily realize it, or when
you come to complete that loop, you become immediately dissatisfied
because you really you've walked around the entire stadium and
there isn't something there to at least grab your attention.
And I don't feel like that is the case with
so far. Jason Stewart, You've been to many a game
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at the stadium, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
A handful. And to Moncey's point, like it really depends
what the weather is up noticed and that if you
went to the championship game on a rainy night, that's
a horrible stadium. And go to a rainy, wet night
because they literally I think they have even marble or
whatever surface to where people are slipping on the concourse,
that's not a good thing. And then like when it's hot,
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if you've been there on a hot day, the whatever,
this kind of half dome half not dome thing. It
works as like a greenhouse effect and it melts the
people inside, so it's like we had a breeze coming in.
It was actually perfect conditions. You could wear a sweatshirt
and it was just a nice day. And I was
struck to by how many Charger fans because it's been
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two or three seasons since I've been to a game,
and when I first started going to the when the
Chargers first got to LA at the Home Depot Center,
it was like seventy five percent the other fans, and
I was very pleased to see. I don't know, maybe
you could tell me if I'm wrong, Dan, probably like
eighty twenty was the ratio in a seventy thousand capacity stadium.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I was surprised as well. I put a TikTok up
at buyer talk of the Charger fans at one point
during the fourth quarter, and of course I just made
the line, you know who says there aren't Charger fans,
But because this stadium was full of fans. Now, I
think there was one interesting reason in eighty twenty I'd
maybe even say eighty five point fifteen in favor of
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the Charger fans. Is because the Texans still in NFL
relative fan base are fairly new, so that is that
that was the one caveat. But it wasn't like there
were empty seats, and it did get loud when the
Chargers were trying to do things on defense to try
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to rattle c. J. Stroud. So those fans were there.
So I don't know if it's all the fans selling
their tickets to Broncos fans and if the same thing
with the Rams, if it's the same thing with the
forty nine ers, but I know what the Texans, And
it's not to say that Texans don't have a strong
fan base. It's just a newer fan base and you
aren't going to get the tradition of a division rival
and everything that comes with its. Yeah, yeah, it was
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just there were a smaller contingent. I talked to, you know,
talk to a guy that I know there, he Goes.
You should have seen it with the Eagles fans here
for the Monday night game. It was he Goes. It
was crazy. It was full of Philadelphia and they all
love Nick Sirianni for whatever reason, but it was it
was quite the experience. And then Manzi, the cool thing
about it is so we had we had really good
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parking outside and then as we were about to leave,
a guy came up to me and asked me to
use my phone. So I thought that that was that
was that was That was great as well.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
That's awesome the fact that you looked friendly enough.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, yeah, I've done that. I'm sure it wasn't shady
at all. Who needs a phone?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I left my phone one time when I was going
to work at Universal Studios and I couldn't get a
hold of I left it at work and I went
up to a guy that looked decent and I was like,
I'm not crazy, can I borrow your phone?
Speaker 6 (42:12):
So trust me, I've been in that position.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, you seemed welcoming enough to ask for your phone.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Very different situation that Massey explain.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah, that is not that is not it at all.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
What you said Dan might look friendly enough to approach.
I was thinking, maybe he looks like the biggest sucka
that yeah, he'll actually give him his phone and the
guy would walk off with it or install some kind
of a virus on it. I don't know what his
intentions were.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
He didn't or that he could beat me in a race.
Maybe that was the reason why if he took off
with my phone. But he came up to me, he says,
can I use your phone? He didn't say, oh my gosh,
I lost my phone.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Oh I see, I don't.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Know where we're parked. Can I have it? I still
wouldn't have given him the phone at that.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Point, sure, but then no, very different there, my bad.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Yeah, So that was that was odd at about four
forty local time, still in the daylight.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
It's a very intrusive ask because if if somebody comes
up to you, you're assuming they're going to ask you
for money or and this guy, he seemed a little inebriated,
he's gonna ask you for like a smoke, and both
of those are reason to be like, I don't have change.
Or you can't say I don't have my phone. I'm sorry,
that's that's not you can't even use that as an excuse.
So when you say no, you're basically just saying I
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could definitely help you, but I'm choosing not to.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
So he what did you do? What did you say?
Because for why I would have been like, why no.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
I just said sorry, man, can't do it.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I don't have a phone.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, I don't have a phone. I only write notes,
I only use regular mail.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
I only have an iPod from back end.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I just said no, like I, no, you can't use it.
And then he asked again and I'm like, sorry, man,
can't do it. And he's like, all right, have a
good day. Like so he wasn't even mad about it,
so obviously he didn't necessarily care.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
I would have been like, why what do you need
my phone for?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
And then when we left the stadium, because I get
a carpool adjacent, we were in traffic for about an
hour and then his ways took us aways where we
started driving on side streets and.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Making side streets in Inglewood.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, making left turns across across four lanes of traffic
at a stop sign. It was it was quite the adventure.
But we were able to drop off Jacob at a
pizza place, not to go inside. That's just where we
met him, and then we drove home.
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Why are you guys using ways when you know there's
no way around it.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I know that was a huge mistake. Just just do it.
Just suck it up, because way is this going to
save you ten seconds maybe as opposed to just doing
it straight.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Like to save ten seconds and choose this route. You
made it. We were taking on some backstreets, but still
I recommend Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
I just got done telling Dan that I always think
about it when I'm pulling out of any event at Inglewood,
so whether it's a concert at the Forum or an
old Lakers game or whatever that there's a movie in
the eighties I don't know if you remember this or not,
called Grand Canyon. Steve Martin stars and he leaves a
Laker game and then takes the wrong turn into the
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wrong neighborhood and Danny Glover saves his life. Anyways, I
always think about that scene, like who would be dumb
enough to make a wrong turn in Inglewood? And I
did on Sunday on Saturday, as I'm taking my son
Dan and his cousin home from the from the Charger game,
I took a wrong turn in the wrong neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
That was great. It was still a good time, though,
made it home to have a gas leak in our neighborhood.
So that's what. Oh yeah, a story, but I what
a great capper of a weekend. That probably should have
been my hate in Love and Hate earlier in the
show was I was told that I sound like, get
off my lawn guy, and no if you were on
my lawn after my fall, receding like you you have
(45:56):
no idea what get off my lawn guy is? No
one is touching my lawn in October. I have no
because I had my stakes out, my tape around it, lawnmower,
you're not mowing on it. Like, yeah, we are overseating
for winter. If you want get off my lawn guy, yeah,
(46:17):
deal with me in October. You don't want to deal
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Isaac talked about the Chargers in them a benching justin
Herbert and I think we're going to see a variety
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of different things throughout the NFL on how teams will
approach Week eighteen when you've already clinched a playoff Berth,
I think the Chargers look at it as what's the
difference between five six or seven. Yep, right, So what
they're in, they're not going to win the division. They're
gonna have to go on the road, they'll have to
play whoever. But I feel that it is also quite
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the commentary on the matchups that we have where we
don't know who is who. It's to be careful what
you wish for sort of thing where I always go
back to the twenty nineteen Eastern Conference semis when Kawhi
hits that shot against the seventy six ers. I was
so relieved because the Bucks then didn't have to play
Philadelphia and in the Eastern Conference finals, and then we
(47:22):
see what happens. Be careful what you wish for. I
know NFL teams don't do that, but the Chargers, if
they were to play Herbert to try to get a
better seed in a certain way, you're putting Herbert at risk.
The Texans have a game against the Colts that you
think that they're probably going to try to win, and
they'll be the fifth seed. So if there was an
advantage to go to Pittsburgh or Baltimore as the other ones,
(47:43):
they're probably going to have that edge. But you don't
know what's going to happen at the top. You know,
there could be something crazy that happens. But with the
Chargers not playing their starters, they're basically guaranteeing the Broncos
the number one overall seed. Now, if the Chargers can
win their first game, that also allows them to go
(48:04):
to Denver. Very likely in that scenarios they would be
a lower seed. Maybe not, maybe Buffalo has a seven
seed upset someone, but then it would allow them to
go to Denver and play the Broncos in a meaningful game,
and it would be against the team they beat earlier
this season.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yeah, you can try and plan out, but it can
backfire on you.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Sure, And I do think.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
That if Justin Herbert was not banged up the way
he is, he probably would have played at least a
little bit. But I think at this point the Chargers
are doing the right decision and not benching him, resting him.
But it's because he's because he just had surgery ten
days ago. Like you know what I'm saying, We forget
that he's literally wearing a cast. Now, we don't forget that,
(48:44):
but you get I'm saying. So I think that's a
big reason. But you're right, they're kind of just like,
all right, we're in it, and let's see what happens.
Let's try not to mess with faith.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yeah, you can't. You can't predict what's going to happen.
We think we know how it's going to sort out,
just like without last year. We knew how the nf
he was going to be and then a bunch of
stuff changed when the Bears beat the Packers, and so
instead of instead of trying to predict, when you just
take care of yourself
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