December 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for C&R as they talk about the latest episode involving Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni. Dan tells Monse the story of going to an NFL game with Jason Stewart. Dan gives out his Weak 17 stats.
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It's a Fox Sports Radio Monday, the weirdest Monday of
the year because it's the last no because it's in
between Christmas and New Year, and then you have to
pretend that you're going back to work. Not us, but
normal people who have normal jobs and they have to
go work for two days and then they go back
on vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I felt sorry for those that were on the roads
this morning going to work. Yep, a bit of empathy.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Yeah for them back to normal for two days.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But if you're done with the work now, hey, good Anya, job,
well done, that's right. Use those days when the sun
is shining and you're out at the lake and having
a good time. That's how you look at it. Isaac
long Grown is here on this weird Monday. What's going on? Isaac?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't mind because the roads are clear and there's
less traffic.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I wish it was like that all though, But remember
Isaac told me when I said the weekends, He's like,
there's always traffic here on Saturday as well. Weird dichotomy
there serving that in my face.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Jason Stewart backed me over a uh, actually put me
under a semi earlier for my Aaron Glen take.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
He is with us, hell everybody and more of that.
This show. More about this show, throwing Dan under the bus?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yes, Jan, how many people have agreed with you on
the bills decision?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Well?
Speaker 7 (01:32):
So are Jason and I are the only ones, even
Michael Badgeley Apparently.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Again, that's karma for the OJ Jersey. Chris Purfett didn't
agree with Jason and myself. He is our technical producer.
What's going on, Chris overtime?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It is an abomination of the eyes of God. I
don't need you settle it in sixty minutes. I'm not interested.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
The only thing that I now look back and say,
Sean McDermott, why didn't she kick the extra? The only
thing that would have made me want him to go
for two is if I knew that they were guaranteed
to win. So we didn't have to deal with Nick Siriani.
Once again, I may be wrong on my eron Glenn take,
(02:13):
but I am a million percent wrong in thinking that
the success of Super Bowl fifty nine for the Philadelphia Eagles,
a victory over the Kansas City Chiefs, the ability to
hoist the Lombardi Trophy Monzi would make Nick Siriani a
changed man, a new man, a man who has accomplished
(02:34):
so much. But lets others talk about it, that is
not necessarily the case.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Nope, not even a little bit. This guy is like
more immature this year, I feel like than the last
couple of years.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
And it's just such a turn.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Actink, you've been there before, Act like you are the
adult in the room. But I feel like he's never
the adult in the room. And you have with aj
Brown and you're still not the adult in the room.
So like, that's even crazier.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Jalen Hurts had to play the role of the adult
in the room, room, and a lot of times with
Nick Sirianni. I remember in Super Bowl fifty seven when
Syrian's yelling at the officials, Movie's yelling at some Chiefs players,
Jalen Hurts is like, all right, let's just focus on
this play. Nick Sirianni will take every opportunity to rub
it in your face. And if you don't believe me,
(03:26):
this is what it sounded like last night when Nick
Sirianni ended up talking to the media after the game.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
If you come out of this and you have you're
and you're just thinking about all the negative things that happen,
that makes for a miserable existence. We'll get there, We'll
get to what we need to clean up. And you know,
a really good first half by the offense, not a
great second half and a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 9 (03:52):
Why.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, that's coach speak. Yeah, that seemed sounding like a coach.
What is a miserable experience is seeing him, for a
another time, yelling at opposing fans in a tunnel after
a win where a win was given because of a
bad decision by the other team's head coach. Seeing Nick
Sirianni yelling and swearing and having those words, while not
(04:16):
directed at fans, Monci, we're directed at fans. It wasn't
just the national media. The national media was saying, guess what,
this Eagles Bills game is kind of weird because it's
so late in the season, Eagles only have a couple
of spots to move. The Bills are a long shot
to make the AFC East. This isn't as great of
a matchup as it's great on paper. It's great to watch,
but for what it actually meant in Week seventeen, maybe
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didn't mean as much as it would have early on
in the season. But Nick Sirianni decided to just yell
at everybody as again in a tunnel, like we saw
a couple of years ago in Kansas City when the
Eagles went and beat the Chiefs after losing the Super
Bowl the year prior. Nick Sirianni always wanting to grab
his pound of flesh on the way out. And it's
just really getting old.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
It really is in this crazy that it hasn't changed.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
He's walking to the locker room yelling at fans that
aren't around because he's walking in a tunnel, but like yelling,
not so much talking now. And I'm just I'm confused.
Did you win the game or did Josh Allen just
lose the game? Because I don't think you won the game,
Nick Sirianni. I don't think you made some crazy play
since made some crazy call that the Eagles went out
there and won the game.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
The Eagles just survived it.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And then you want to yell, who's doing or no
more talking now when Aj Brown looks at his coach.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Like you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
And again Aj Brown, who has been a topic of
conversation also this season for last season, a topic of
conversation in his own way because he just wants the ball.
Here you have Nick Sirianni acting a fool after surviving
a game that again, what mega implications did it have?
Didn't it didn't really have anything. You're just getting ready
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to go into the postseason. Both of these teams.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
You're defending champion, act like it.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
You know, it's worse than a sore loser, a sore winner,
dam And that's what that guy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Is one hundred percent. You're so spot on. And it's
not the first or second time, no what that we've
seen it. In fact, it's it could be the third
or fourth time. Because I also remember when the Eagles
played the Indianapolis Colts. Now Nick Sirianni had coached under
Frank Reich with the Indianapolis Colts prior to a stint
(06:24):
with the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, the Colts ended up this
missing Frank Reich and Nick Sirianni and the Eagles went
to Indianapolis, played a game barely won, and Nick Sirianni
is yelling and I get standing up for your coach,
but yelling at the fans this one's for Frank Reich.
Well yeah, well the fans probably didn't like Frank Reike
because the Colts stunk. Why is it their problem? And yeah,
(06:48):
they just lost the game. The Bills fans after sitting
out there for three and a half hours in a rainstorm,
not saying too much, ms, I'm not surprised with all
of that. But to your point of a J. Brown,
as he been rolling his eyes, it it really annoys
me that Nick Sirianni has a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Ring mm hmmm the key and a recent one, not
one twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, he's yeah, that he's it's it's it. It annoys me,
And it wouldn't have mattered Manzi, just because there is
such a select few that get that ability to win
a Super Bowl. We know how difficult it is for
for players to win. Quarterbacks Dan Marino is still talked about,
but for him to have one just bothers.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Me, Yeah, because you know he'll throw it in your
face every opportunity he gets, no matter the situation, he's
gonna be like showing you, just like Shador Sanders does
the watch thing. He's just gonna show you his ring. Sure,
and that's that's gonna be something he can hold onto forever.
In that video of him yelling at and where aj
Brown looks at him, he also is an idiot. It's
like you don't know where the locker room is. You
(07:50):
ran right into the camera. You walked into the camera
and then have to do, oh my bad, I'm going
this way.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Oh it is your first time year.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now, they're not there every year. You know it is
an AFC stadium, but you know in the good things
they get a new s.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
You don't see cameras every game.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm sure this camera was not a hitting camera that
was on a little pin wearing that a guy was wearing.
I'm sure this camera was giant and you saw it
as you were walking down to go to the locker
room and you didn't even know where to make your turn.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hey, it didn't. It didn't end on a high note, idiot,
It didn't end on a high note. I don't mind.
I don't mind having confidence in your.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Ce what this is and again, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
This is bratt behavior. Yeah, his offense and I don't
know if you know this. They completed zero passes in
the second half of yesterday's game against the Bill. Yes,
and he's the offensive guy. And now that that's where
his background is now he's taken more of a CEO approach.
But the problem with the offense, of the problem with
the Egles this year has been their offense. It wasn't
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as good as it was last year. And he's even
tried to interfere with some of that. But yesterday was
not a banner day for the Philadelphia Eagles, especially against
the Bill's defense, pointed out, is not the strongest out there.
So just to have your team survive with eighteen total
yards in the second half is just a really weird,
(09:09):
humble break.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Again, a brag about what And it's like nobody else
is joining you in on this, So all you're doing
is separating yourself from again a player on your team.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
That is already a controversial one in aj Brown.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I wish it would have been Jalen Hurts next to him,
because then Jalen Hurts probably really would have given him
a dirty look.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
I feel like I've seen that.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
But it just adds to it the fact that aj
Brown is judging you. That's how do you not see that?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I don't know, because it happened right in front of him.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah, and I think even a Wherewithal?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm a big like wherewith all is my word of
the month. I think, yeah, zero, wherewithal? With Nick Sirianni,
Act like.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
You've been there, Act like you just won the Super
Bowl last year.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Act like you didn't just Act like you survived a
game that you probably were on the verge of losing.
Act like that, keep your head down and get into
the locker room.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer, can't.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
We all agree that he probably would not have won
if mcdrumott would have decided to kick the extra point
and got overtime, were in agreement.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Still one, he could have still won.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We would have been we would have been saved from
this sort of reaction. Like think think of all the
great coaches, think of just great coaches in history. Like,
I'm a big Mike Holmgren guy. All right, you know
he went to the Packers turned them around and went
to the Seahawks, led the Seahawks. So the Super Bowl.
He's one and two in Super Bowls. Like he's got
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the same number of rings as Nick Sirianni, and it
like it bothers me, like it ticks me off. You
can think of the coaches that were able to just
get one. I mean, we're looking at to get to
Mike Shanahan, Jimmy Johnson like he is. He is one
more ring away, and it could even happen.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
This year, chance to another one.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And somehow everything is put together. He's he's had in
years past, the best, the best roster in the National
Football League. Many people give the credit to Howie Roseman,
but none of that has humbled him. I was hoping
Super Bowl fifty nine would have humbled Nick Sirianni. Not
a basically meaningless game in week seventeen. I get. The
(11:20):
counterpart is is he's such a competitor. Well that's that's
don't act the way that he acts in this petulant
child sort of way after these victories where he wants
to have the last laugh on the fans in the
stadium because it's not the first, not the second, or
the third time we've seen this.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
It's almost like he's the mascot.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah, he's like the mascot, and that's not a good
thing when you're the head coach.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, but that look on his face. I don't want
to say it, but it's just it's just like, man,
are you that much of a jerk?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It seems that way. It absolutely seems that way. It's
hard to defy. And then like you're you're talking about
being Oh, I'm competitive. I'm a competitor. That's not what
this is.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
And I feel like you are literally filled with competitors.
If you have a super Bowl winning team, you have
Jalen Hurts, who all he does is get criticized and
have to go out there and be competitive.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We just got a tweet from Mike who says haters hate.
But what he did was he put a graphic of
the says go Eagles with like a foam finger, though
there are his own Eagles players are fat up with it. Yeah,
this isn't an Eagles thing. No, this isn't a Philadelphia thing.
This is a Nick Sirianni thing. That's what this is.
(12:42):
And that's the part that I just I thought it
was all done. I thought it was all gone after
last year, and apparently it's not. And it was tough
to root for the Eagles already. This makes it even
more differ.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Who sent that tweet? What's the name of the he's
an Eagles fan? You say yes, because that that would
be my point, Like, he's the one head coach that
takes on the personality of his fan base, and that's
not what you're supposed to do as a head coach.
Like all the Eagles fans, as that Twitter account is
pointing out, they support this kind of attitude. It's like, yeah,
(13:13):
that's how I would act if I was a head coaching.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I think if you were to survey who maybe some
of the worst fan bases are, I think a lot
of people about Philadelphia.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh they bin Santa Claus. You can't you can't escape. Yeah,
you can't escape Michael Irvin on the turf and being carted,
off ending his career and having you know, cheers happening
because of that. Yeah, that stuff sticks with you, absolutely does.
I just you know, I after seeing the video, By
(13:51):
the way, it wasn't just a Bills game. The other
portion of it is I bring up the competitor aspect
of it because I with these games where there's little value,
there is a competitor in you that always wants to compete,
and I think that is probably a part of Nick Sirianni.
But for someone who has a Super Bowl ring, you
(14:12):
now know the difference of winning a super Bowl and
winning a regular season game, and he can't separate the two.
And you go back to the Kobe Bryant. Job's not finished.
Job's not finished.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, he loves not taunting anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah. Ever Ever, Well, the point is is that this
action by Nick Sirianni sure makes it feel like it's
jobs finished. And it's not like there's nothing to celebrate,
there's nothing to taunt. It's just stay on point. And
that's all that I think that we would want from
our head coach or any head coach. And to here
(14:47):
point about Aj Brown being the adult in the room here,
I don't know if you found that in chapter fourteen
of the book that he reads on the sidelines, but
maybe Nick Sirianni needs to read it.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
That's the funniest part of that video is that it's
with Age Brown and aj Brown is giving him a
look of embarrassment.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
That's the best part of the video.
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Speaker 6 (15:25):
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Speaker 6 (15:49):
You know, Dan, You're here every Sunday. I'm here with you.
We're hanging out.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
So catching an NFL game during the season is difficult
for us sometimes, yes, but you were able to sneak
in a Chargers game at Sofi Stadium this Saturday, along
with Jason Stewart. I was very jealous that you guys
were going to that game, and then I wasn't because
I would have been so mad walking out of that stadium.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, it was an opportunity because my cousin was in
town and he wanted to go to a Chargers game.
He's talked about it for year. He's a sophomore in college.
Get straight a's. The kid wants to go to a game.
Let's go to a game. And Jason and I were
able to carpool drive to the stadium. And I have
to say this, I've been to so far before. I
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was there for the Georgia TCU National Championship game, which
was on a Monday night. It was raining, it was cold,
it was windy, and it was a blowout of a
football game. There wasn't a lot to enjoy, especially if
you're a TCU fan. Saturday, no other games competing against
the NFL gorgeous afternoon. We got there early enough because
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I too wanted to see the stadium in all of
its glory. Mark this down if you're a football fan.
Sofi Stadium is a must see stadium in the NFL. Wow,
I don't know if i'd put it number one. I
still think US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is the neatest
(17:16):
new stadium that I've seen. But I've been fortunate enough.
I've been in Atlanta, have been in Vegas now had
the full experience of Sofar for what they've done with it,
and for me living in southern California knowing what that
was previously and how they've developed it in a certain way,
it is a really really fresh place to watch a
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football game, and it is a must seat. Now. My
nephew or my cousin, excuse me, kind off, he's nineteen,
but family lines, he's officially my cousin is. Dad has
season tickets to Packer games, so they go to two
or three Packer games at lambeau Field. And who doesn't
want to go to lambo Field? Jason Stewart wants to
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go to lambeau Field more than anything, right, who doesn't
all football fans? Yeah, he loved so fi. It's so
different than what you would experience in a place like
lambeau Field that I was worried that and I didn't
know what to expect I'm like, this isn't Lambeau, this
isn't where everybody wants to go. How is he going
to take to this? And he absolutely loved it.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Oh that's great, And it's a compliment coming from you
because you've been to so many different stadiums, you've been around,
and you went to Sofi on a bad.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Rainy day.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's not how you want to experience so Fi because
it's it is a there's a there's a roof, and
it's a dome, but it's not. There's tho sides and
it's open and you feel it and when it's raining.
I've also been to a Chargers game when it's raining
and it's not fun. It's not the same as going
on a nice day where the weather is really great.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Sofi Stadium is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It looks fake.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
The first time I walked into Sofi Stadium, I thought
Harry Potter was going to play quidditch.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I don't know, you probably don't know what that means,
but I literally was like, this is fake.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
AI.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yes, it just looked it just I was like, there's
no way this is where you're actually gonna play football.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I thought the thing that was I thought that it
was close where everything was an intimate setting, yet it
goes up so high, like where the scoreboard blocks the
five hundred level seat. Yes, but I still feel that
everybody is closer to the to the playing surface. And
just what they've done with the trees. That's what my
cousin was loving was all the greenery within the stadium
(19:36):
had this new feel. I said to Jason, you know,
not the easiest to get around, No, if like you're
just not walking around the concourse. But I really I
really enjoyed the in game experience and.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
There's stuff everywhere, because there are other stadiums where I
feel like like Angel Stadium to me is so not
user friendly. I don't like the way walking around Angel
Stadium with so.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Far you can get lost.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
But you know what, if you're lost, you're gonna find
food or a drink right away. Like it is everywhere.
Everything seems easily accessible no matter where you're sitting.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
There are some stadiums as well that you will make
a loop and you don't necessarily realize it, or when
you come to complete that loop, you become immediately dissatisfied
because you realize You've walked around the entire stadium and
there isn't something there to at least grab your attention.
And I don't feel like that is the case with
so far. Jason Stewart, You've been to many a game
(20:31):
at the stadium, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
A handful. And to Moncey's point, like it really depends
what the weather is, of noticed, and that if you
went to the championship game on a rainy night, that's
a horrible stadium. Go to a rainy, wet night because
they literally I think they have even marble or whatever
surface to where people are slipping on the concourse, that's
not a good thing. And then like when it's hot,
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if you've been there on a hot day, the whatever,
this kind of half dome half not dome thing, it
works as like a greenhouse effect and it melts the
people inside. So it's like we had a breeze coming in.
It was actually perfect conditions. You could wear a sweatshirt
and it was it was just a nice day. And
I was struck too by how many Charger fans because
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it's been two or three seasons since I've been to
a game, and when I first started going to the
when the Chargers first got to LA at the Home
Depot Center, it was like seventy five percent the other fans,
and I was very pleased to see. I don't know,
maybe you could tell me if I'm wrong, Dan, probably
like eighty twenty was the ratio in a seventy thousand
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capacity stadium.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I was surprised as well. I put a TikTok up
at buyer talk of the Charger fans at one point
during the fourth quarter, and of course I just made
the line, you know who says there aren't Charger fans,
but because this stadium was full of fans. Now, I
think there was one interesting reason in eighty twenty i'd
maybe even say eighty five in favor of the Charger fans,
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is because the Texans still in NFL relative fan base
are fairly new. So that is that that was the
one caveat. But it wasn't like there were empty seats,
and it did get loud when the Chargers were trying
to do things on defense to try to rattle CJ. Stroud,
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So those fans were there. So I don't know if
it's all the fans selling their tickets to Broncos fans
and if the same thing with the Rams, if it's
the same thing with the forty nine ers. But I
know what the Texans. And it's not to say that
Texans don't have a strong fan base. It's just a
newer fan base and you aren't going to get the
tradition of a division rival and everything that comes.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
With it traveling.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. Yeah, it was just there were a smaller contingent.
I talked to, you know, talk to a guy that
I know there he Goes. You should have seen it
with the Eagles fans here for the Monday night game.
It was he Goes. It was crazy. It was full
of Philadelphia and they all love Nick Sirianni for whatever reason.
But it was it was quite the experience. And then MONTI.
The cool thing about it is so we had we
(23:03):
had really good parking outside and then as we were
about to leave, a guy came up to me and
asked me to use my phone. So I thought that
that was that was That was great as well.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
That's awesome the fact that you looked friendly enough.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, yeah, I've done that. I'm sure it wasn't shady
at all. Who needs a phone?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I left my phone one time when I was going
to work at Universal Studios and I couldn't get a
hold of I left it at work and I went
up to a guy that looked decent, and I was like,
I'm not crazy, can I borrow your phone?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
So trust me, I've been in that position. Yeah, you
seemed welcoming enough to ask for your phone.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Very different situation that mose.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, that is not that is not it at all
what you.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Said, Dan might look friendly enough to approach. I was thinking,
maybe he looks like the biggest sucker. But yeah, he'll
actually give him his phone and the guy would walk
off with it or install some kind of a virus
on it. I don't know what his intentions were.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
He didn't or that he could beat me in a race.
Maybe that was the reason why if he took off
with my phone. But he came up to me, he says,
can I use your phone? He didn't say, oh my gosh,
I lost my phone. Oh I don't know where we're parked.
Can I have it. I still wouldn't have given him
the phone at that.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Point, sure, but then no, very different bad.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, So that was that was odd. At about four
forty local times, still in the daylight, it's.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
A very intrusive ask, because if if somebody comes up
to you, you're assuming they're going to ask you for money,
or and this guy, he seemed a little inebriated, he's
gonna ask you for like a smoke, And both of
those are reason to be like I don't have change.
Or you can't say I don't have my phone. I'm sorry,
that's that's not you can't even use that as an excuse.
So when you say no, you're basically just saying I
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could definitely help you, but I'm choosing not to.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
So what did you do? What did you say? Because
for why I would have been.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Like why no, I just said, sorry, man can't do it.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I don't have a phone.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, I don't have a phone. I only write notes,
I only use regular mail.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
I only have.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
An iPod from back the time.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I just said no, like I no, you can't use it.
And then he asked again and I'm like, sorry, man
can't do it, and he's like, all right, have a
good day. Like so he wasn't even mad about it,
so obviously he didn't necessarily care.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I would be like, why what do you need my
phone for it?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And then and then when we left the stadium because
again a carpool adjacent. We were in traffic for about
an hour and then his ways took us aways where
we started driving on side streets.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
And making side streets in Englewood, making.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Making left turns across across four lanes of traffic at
a stop sign. It was it was quite the adventure.
But we were able to drop off Jacob at a
pizza place and not to go inside. That's just where
we met him, and then we drove home.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Why are you guys using ways when you know there's
no way around it.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
I know that was a huge mistake. Just just do
it just because ways is going to save you ten seconds,
maybe as opposed to just doing it straight.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Which is like to save ten seconds and choose this route.
You made it. We were taking on some backstreets, but
still I recommend Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
I just got done telling Dan that I always think
about it when I'm pulling out of any event at Inglewood,
so whether it's a concert at the Forum or an
old Lakers game or whatever, that there's a movie in
the eighties. I don't know if you remember this or not,
called Grand Canyon Steve Martin stars and he leaves a
Laker game and then takes the wrong turn into the
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wrong neighborhood and Danny Glover saves his life. Anyways, I
always think about that scene, like who would be dumb
enough to make a wrong turn in Inglewood? And I
did on Sunday on Saturday, as I'm taking my son
Dan and his cousin home from the from the Charger game,
I took a wrong turn in the wrong neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That was great. It was still a good time though,
made it home to have a ghastly our neighborhood. So
that's what yeah story when I won a great capper
of a weekend that probably should have been my hate
in Love and Hate earlier in the show was I
was told that I sound like get off my lawn guy,
and no, if you were on my lawn after my fall,
(27:16):
reseating like you, you have no idea what get off
my lawn guy is. No one is touching my lawn
in October. I have no because I had my stakes out,
my tape around it, lawnmower. You're not mowing on it
like we are. Yeah we are. We are overseating for winter.
(27:36):
If you want, get off my lawn guy, Yeah, deal
with me in October. You don't want to deal with
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Isaac talked about the Chargers in them a benching justin
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Herbert and I think we're going to see a variety
of different things throughout the NFL on how teams will
approach Week eighteen when you've already clinched a playoff Berth,
I think the Chargers look at it as what's the
difference between five, six or seven?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Right, so what they're in, they're not gonna win the division.
They're gonna have to go on the road, they'll have
to play whoever. But I feel that it is also
quite the commentary on the matchups that we have where
we don't know who is who. It's to be careful
what you wish for sort of thing where I always
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go back to the twenty nineteen Eastern Conference semis when
Kawhi hits that shot against the seventy six ers. I
was so relieved because the Bucks then didn't have to
play Philadelphia in the Eastern Conference finals, and then we
see what happens. Be careful what you wish for. I
know NFL teams don't do that, but the Chargers, if
they were to play Herbert to try to get a
better seed in a certain way, you're putting Herbert at risk.
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The Texans have a game against the Colts that you
think that they're probably going to try to win, and
they'll be the fifth seed. So if there was an
advantage to go to Pittsburgh or Baltimore as the other ones,
they're probably gonna have that edge. But you don't know
what's gonna happen at the top. You know, there could
be something crazy that happens. But with the Chargers not
playing their starters, they're basically guaranteeing the Broncos the number
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one overall seed. Now, if the Chargers can win their
first game, that also allows them to go to Denver.
Very likely in that scenarios they would be a lower seed.
Maybe not, maybe Buffalo has a seventh seed upset someone,
but then it would allow them to go to Denver
and play the Broncos in a meaningful game, and it
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would be against the team they beat earlier this season.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, you can try and plan out, but it can
backfire on you. Sure, And I do think that if
Justin Herbert was not banged up the way he is,
he probably would have played at least a little bit.
But I think at this point the Chargers are doing
the right decision and not benching him, resting him.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
But it's because he's b because he just had surgery
ten days ago.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Like you know what I'm saying. We forget that he's
literally wearing a cast. Now, we don't forget that, but
you get I'm saying. So I think that's a big reason.
But you're right, they're kind of just like, all right,
we're we're in it, and let's see what happens. Let's
try not to mess with faith.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, you can't. You can't predict what's gonna happen. We
think we know how it's gonna sort out, just like
we thought last year. We knew how the NFC was
gonna be, and then a bunch of stuff changed when
the Bears beat the Packers. And so instead of instead
of trying to predict what you just take care of yourself.
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Speaker 9 (31:15):
The Bills will either fail on a two point conversion
of the Eagles will win thirteen to twelve, or the
Bills will convert the two points and the Bills will
win fourteen to thirteen. Allen puts a man in motion.
Allen looks he's back, he's firing and.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
It is incomplete thinggos Thegleo's win. Now there's five stuconds
on the clock, but the Eagles are gonna win. They
threw a pass force Shakir and it wasn't even close.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well, you didn't hear Meryl Reese on ninety four wip
Egos Radio Network say, was this is all on? Sean McDermott.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I would just like to say that I feel like
that was selected on purpose.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Ah the plan we could have done a Why Leonard
play of the day.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, no, because that definitely rivaled that that big play
that was seen by pretty much the entire country.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
But there with this play, as a born and raised
Pistons fan, I almost feel like I had to veto that.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, it wasn't gonna happens.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Are fine, You're fine.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I know it is.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Did you even watch the game? Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yes, thank you ty Iraq for that great play of
the day here on Fox Sports Radio. If you know,
and Rich, we're in earlier today. That's my way of
ending your argument.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
No, I got it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It was clear they were in earlier today for Dan
Patrick on the Dan Patrick Show. So the cruise in
so you got Mansie, myself, Chris Purfett, Jason Stewart's here
as his Isaac Glow, and Crome. And it only took
me seventeen weeks of NFL football to come up with
a brand new segment for the NFL regular season. And
(32:58):
I'm calling it Week seventeen. Now, as I would workshop
this each week, I would, with a corresponding week, have
a number of just whax Statskay, I didn't come up
with seventeen, but I do have nine nine stats from
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week seventeen or other tidbits that you may have missed.
And when we say week seventeen, I mean w e
ak coming off of this Eagles victory, Manzi, I don't
know if you know this number nine. No, this is
number one. I'm actually counting up. I'm actual number one.
Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts oh of seven in the second
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half of yesterday's win against the Buffalo Bills. That's a
week they do midweek major like this is my Week seventeen,
all right?
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, Eagles as a team had eighteen rushing yards in
the second half. Combine that with number one Monzy, they
had eighteen yards of offense in the second half. That's
not even to talk about the sacks that Jalen ERDs.
Number three the Vikings. Sorry, Chris, you may want to
(34:12):
plug gears for this one. Had three net yards passing
in the win over the Lions on Christmas Day. So
Max Broseworth threw for fifty one yards, but he was
sacked like seven times for forty eight yards, which gave
them a net passing total of three and Minnesota still
won the game.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Do you catch that Bengals Cardinals game yesterday?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
M smidge?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah? Did you see Cody Ford's reception?
Speaker 7 (34:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh, the offensive lineman for the Bengals three. Yeah. He
had more catches in yards than Marvin Harrison Junior had
for Arizona. If you would have played a guard in
your fantasy team, he would have performed better. He would
have given you three point one points, better than others,
(34:56):
including Marvin Harrison Junior who played in the same game.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Jason Stewart mentioned this earlier. Jets still zero interceptions on
the season.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
My favorite stat of the entire year this is.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
To cancel it out. Number six. Number six, Cameron Dicker
missed a pat and a thirty two yard field goal
and a four point loss to the Texans. How much
were those misses worth? If he misses a thirty two
yard field goal and an extra point four, Yeah, they
lost by four. You had not missed a field goal
inside of forty yards before Saturday. He also had not
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missed an extra point all season. All happened in the
same game. Number seven, The Raiders have now lost ten straight. Right,
you would think that this would could be some sort
of record. You are wrong. It matches last season's streak
of ten losses in a row. Forget this fifth longest
(35:55):
in franchise history, so it's probably eleven is fourth long longest,
twelve is third longest, thirteen his second longest, and they
had a fourteen game losing streak at some point. Already
got two more for you.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Number eight.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Packers quarterback Clayton Tune had a QBR of zero point one,
and he did not register a quarterback rating, going one
for eight for eight yards and an interception. And finally,
in my week seventeen, Number nine, the Carolina Panthers lined
up in victory formation yesterday, down seventeen points to the
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Seattle Seahawks. They had bigger fish to Friday week eighteen.
They didn't even try. They took a knee, turned it
over on downs, and then the Seahawks ended up doing
their own victory formation.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
The real one.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
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Speaker 5 (00:19):
It's a Fox Sports Radio Monday, the weirdest Monday of
the year because it's the last no because it's in
between Christmas and New Year, and then you have to
pretend that you're going back to work. Not us, but
normal people who have normal jobs and they have to
go work for two days and then they go back
on vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I felt sorry for those that were on the roads
this morning going to work. Yep, a bit of empathy.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Yeah for them back to normal for two days.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
But if you're done with the work now, hey, good Anya, job,
well done, that's right. Use those days when the sun
is shining and you're out at the lake and having
a good time. That's how you look at it. Isaac
long Grown is here on this weird Monday. What's going on? Isaac?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't mind because the roads are clear and there's
less traffic.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I wish it was like that all though, But remember
Isaac told me when I said the weekends, He's like,
there's always traffic here on Saturday as well. Weird dichotomy
there serving that in my face.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Jason Stewart backed me over a uh, actually put me
under a semi earlier for my Aaron Glen take.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
He is with us, hell everybody and more of that.
This show. More about this show, throwing Dan under the bus?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yes, Jan, how many people have agreed with you on
the bills decision?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Well?
Speaker 7 (01:32):
So are Jason and I are the only ones, even
Michael Badgeley Apparently.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Again, that's karma for the OJ Jersey. Chris Purfett didn't
agree with Jason and myself. He is our technical producer.
What's going on, Chris overtime?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It is an abomination of the eyes of God. I
don't need you settle it in sixty minutes. I'm not interested.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
The only thing that I now look back and say,
Sean McDermott, why didn't she kick the extra? The only
thing that would have made me want him to go
for two is if I knew that they were guaranteed
to win. So we didn't have to deal with Nick Siriani.
Once again, I may be wrong on my eron Glenn take,
(02:13):
but I am a million percent wrong in thinking that
the success of Super Bowl fifty nine for the Philadelphia Eagles,
a victory over the Kansas City Chiefs, the ability to
hoist the Lombardi Trophy Monzi would make Nick Siriani a
changed man, a new man, a man who has accomplished
(02:34):
so much. But lets others talk about it, that is
not necessarily the case.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Nope, not even a little bit. This guy is like
more immature this year, I feel like than the last
couple of years.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
And it's just such a turn.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Actink, you've been there before, Act like you are the
adult in the room. But I feel like he's never
the adult in the room. And you have with aj
Brown and you're still not the adult in the room.
So like, that's even crazier.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Jalen Hurts had to play the role of the adult
in the room, room, and a lot of times with
Nick Sirianni. I remember in Super Bowl fifty seven when
Syrian's yelling at the officials, Movie's yelling at some Chiefs players,
Jalen Hurts is like, all right, let's just focus on
this play. Nick Sirianni will take every opportunity to rub
it in your face. And if you don't believe me,
(03:26):
this is what it sounded like last night when Nick
Sirianni ended up talking to the media after the game.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
If you come out of this and you have you're
and you're just thinking about all the negative things that happen,
that makes for a miserable existence. We'll get there, We'll
get to what we need to clean up. And you know,
a really good first half by the offense, not a
great second half and a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 9 (03:52):
Why.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, that's coach speak. Yeah, that seemed sounding like a coach.
What is a miserable experience is seeing him, for a
another time, yelling at opposing fans in a tunnel after
a win where a win was given because of a
bad decision by the other team's head coach. Seeing Nick
Sirianni yelling and swearing and having those words, while not
(04:16):
directed at fans, Monci, we're directed at fans. It wasn't
just the national media. The national media was saying, guess what,
this Eagles Bills game is kind of weird because it's
so late in the season, Eagles only have a couple
of spots to move. The Bills are a long shot
to make the AFC East. This isn't as great of
a matchup as it's great on paper. It's great to watch,
but for what it actually meant in Week seventeen, maybe
(04:37):
didn't mean as much as it would have early on
in the season. But Nick Sirianni decided to just yell
at everybody as again in a tunnel, like we saw
a couple of years ago in Kansas City when the
Eagles went and beat the Chiefs after losing the Super
Bowl the year prior. Nick Sirianni always wanting to grab
his pound of flesh on the way out. And it's
just really getting old.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
It really is in this crazy that it hasn't changed.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
He's walking to the locker room yelling at fans that
aren't around because he's walking in a tunnel, but like yelling,
not so much talking now. And I'm just I'm confused.
Did you win the game or did Josh Allen just
lose the game? Because I don't think you won the game,
Nick Sirianni. I don't think you made some crazy play
since made some crazy call that the Eagles went out
there and won the game.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
The Eagles just survived it.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And then you want to yell, who's doing or no
more talking now when Aj Brown looks at his coach.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Like you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
And again Aj Brown, who has been a topic of
conversation also this season for last season, a topic of
conversation in his own way because he just wants the ball.
Here you have Nick Sirianni acting a fool after surviving
a game that again, what mega implications did it have?
Didn't it didn't really have anything. You're just getting ready
(05:52):
to go into the postseason. Both of these teams.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
You're defending champion, act like it.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
You know, it's worse than a sore loser, a sore winner,
dam And that's what that guy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Is one hundred percent. You're so spot on. And it's
not the first or second time, no what that we've
seen it. In fact, it's it could be the third
or fourth time. Because I also remember when the Eagles
played the Indianapolis Colts. Now Nick Sirianni had coached under
Frank Reich with the Indianapolis Colts prior to a stint
(06:24):
with the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, the Colts ended up this
missing Frank Reich and Nick Sirianni and the Eagles went
to Indianapolis, played a game barely won, and Nick Sirianni
is yelling and I get standing up for your coach,
but yelling at the fans this one's for Frank Reich.
Well yeah, well the fans probably didn't like Frank Reike
because the Colts stunk. Why is it their problem? And yeah,
(06:48):
they just lost the game. The Bills fans after sitting
out there for three and a half hours in a rainstorm,
not saying too much, ms, I'm not surprised with all
of that. But to your point of a J. Brown,
as he been rolling his eyes, it it really annoys
me that Nick Sirianni has a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Ring mm hmmm the key and a recent one, not
one twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, he's yeah, that he's it's it's it. It annoys me,
And it wouldn't have mattered Manzi, just because there is
such a select few that get that ability to win
a Super Bowl. We know how difficult it is for
for players to win. Quarterbacks Dan Marino is still talked about,
but for him to have one just bothers.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Me, Yeah, because you know he'll throw it in your
face every opportunity he gets, no matter the situation, he's
gonna be like showing you, just like Shador Sanders does
the watch thing. He's just gonna show you his ring. Sure,
and that's that's gonna be something he can hold onto forever.
In that video of him yelling at and where aj
Brown looks at him, he also is an idiot. It's
like you don't know where the locker room is. You
(07:50):
ran right into the camera. You walked into the camera
and then have to do, oh my bad, I'm going
this way.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Oh it is your first time year.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now, they're not there every year. You know it is
an AFC stadium, but you know in the good things
they get a new s.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
You don't see cameras every game.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm sure this camera was not a hitting camera that
was on a little pin wearing that a guy was wearing.
I'm sure this camera was giant and you saw it
as you were walking down to go to the locker
room and you didn't even know where to make your turn.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hey, it didn't. It didn't end on a high note, idiot,
It didn't end on a high note. I don't mind.
I don't mind having confidence in your.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Ce what this is and again, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
This is bratt behavior. Yeah, his offense and I don't
know if you know this. They completed zero passes in
the second half of yesterday's game against the Bill. Yes,
and he's the offensive guy. And now that that's where
his background is now he's taken more of a CEO approach.
But the problem with the offense, of the problem with
the Egles this year has been their offense. It wasn't
(08:48):
as good as it was last year. And he's even
tried to interfere with some of that. But yesterday was
not a banner day for the Philadelphia Eagles, especially against
the Bill's defense, pointed out, is not the strongest out there.
So just to have your team survive with eighteen total
yards in the second half is just a really weird,
(09:09):
humble break.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Again, a brag about what And it's like nobody else
is joining you in on this, So all you're doing
is separating yourself from again a player on your team.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
That is already a controversial one in aj Brown.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I wish it would have been Jalen Hurts next to him,
because then Jalen Hurts probably really would have given him
a dirty look.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
I feel like I've seen that.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
But it just adds to it the fact that aj
Brown is judging you. That's how do you not see that?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I don't know, because it happened right in front of him.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah, and I think even a Wherewithal?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm a big like wherewith all is my word of
the month. I think, yeah, zero, wherewithal? With Nick Sirianni,
Act like.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
You've been there, Act like you just won the Super
Bowl last year.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Act like you didn't just Act like you survived a
game that you probably were on the verge of losing.
Act like that, keep your head down and get into
the locker room.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer, can't.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
We all agree that he probably would not have won
if mcdrumott would have decided to kick the extra point
and got overtime, were in agreement.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Still one, he could have still won.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
We would have been we would have been saved from
this sort of reaction. Like think think of all the
great coaches, think of just great coaches in history. Like,
I'm a big Mike Holmgren guy. All right, you know
he went to the Packers turned them around and went
to the Seahawks, led the Seahawks. So the Super Bowl.
He's one and two in Super Bowls. Like he's got
(10:37):
the same number of rings as Nick Sirianni, and it
like it bothers me, like it ticks me off. You
can think of the coaches that were able to just
get one. I mean, we're looking at to get to
Mike Shanahan, Jimmy Johnson like he is. He is one
more ring away, and it could even happen.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
This year, chance to another one.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And somehow everything is put together. He's he's had in
years past, the best, the best roster in the National
Football League. Many people give the credit to Howie Roseman,
but none of that has humbled him. I was hoping
Super Bowl fifty nine would have humbled Nick Sirianni. Not
a basically meaningless game in week seventeen. I get. The
(11:20):
counterpart is is he's such a competitor. Well that's that's
don't act the way that he acts in this petulant
child sort of way after these victories where he wants
to have the last laugh on the fans in the
stadium because it's not the first, not the second, or
the third time we've seen this.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
It's almost like he's the mascot.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah, he's like the mascot, and that's not a good
thing when you're the head coach.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, but that look on his face. I don't want
to say it, but it's just it's just like, man,
are you that much of a jerk?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
It seems that way. It absolutely seems that way. It's
hard to defy. And then like you're you're talking about
being Oh, I'm competitive. I'm a competitor. That's not what
this is.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
And I feel like you are literally filled with competitors.
If you have a super Bowl winning team, you have
Jalen Hurts, who all he does is get criticized and
have to go out there and be competitive.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We just got a tweet from Mike who says haters hate.
But what he did was he put a graphic of
the says go Eagles with like a foam finger, though
there are his own Eagles players are fat up with it. Yeah,
this isn't an Eagles thing. No, this isn't a Philadelphia thing.
This is a Nick Sirianni thing. That's what this is.
(12:42):
And that's the part that I just I thought it
was all done. I thought it was all gone after
last year, and apparently it's not. And it was tough
to root for the Eagles already. This makes it even
more differ.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Who sent that tweet? What's the name of the he's
an Eagles fan? You say yes, because that that would
be my point, Like, he's the one head coach that
takes on the personality of his fan base, and that's
not what you're supposed to do as a head coach.
Like all the Eagles fans, as that Twitter account is
pointing out, they support this kind of attitude. It's like, yeah,
(13:13):
that's how I would act if I was a head coaching.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I think if you were to survey who maybe some
of the worst fan bases are, I think a lot
of people about Philadelphia.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh they bin Santa Claus. You can't you can't escape. Yeah,
you can't escape Michael Irvin on the turf and being carted,
off ending his career and having you know, cheers happening
because of that. Yeah, that stuff sticks with you, absolutely does.
I just you know, I after seeing the video, By
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the way, it wasn't just a Bills game. The other
portion of it is I bring up the competitor aspect
of it because I with these games where there's little value,
there is a competitor in you that always wants to compete,
and I think that is probably a part of Nick Sirianni.
But for someone who has a Super Bowl ring, you
(14:12):
now know the difference of winning a super Bowl and
winning a regular season game, and he can't separate the two.
And you go back to the Kobe Bryant. Job's not finished.
Job's not finished.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, he loves not taunting anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah. Ever Ever, Well, the point is is that this
action by Nick Sirianni sure makes it feel like it's
jobs finished. And it's not like there's nothing to celebrate,
there's nothing to taunt. It's just stay on point. And
that's all that I think that we would want from
our head coach or any head coach. And to here
(14:47):
point about Aj Brown being the adult in the room here,
I don't know if you found that in chapter fourteen
of the book that he reads on the sidelines, but
maybe Nick Sirianni needs to read it.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
That's the funniest part of that video is that it's
with Age Brown and aj Brown is giving him a
look of embarrassment.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
That's the best part of the video.
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Speaker 6 (15:49):
You know, Dan, You're here every Sunday. I'm here with you.
We're hanging out.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
So catching an NFL game during the season is difficult
for us sometimes, yes, but you were able to sneak
in a Chargers game at Sofi Stadium this Saturday, along
with Jason Stewart. I was very jealous that you guys
were going to that game, and then I wasn't because
I would have been so mad walking out of that stadium.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, it was an opportunity because my cousin was in
town and he wanted to go to a Chargers game.
He's talked about it for year. He's a sophomore in college.
Get straight a's. The kid wants to go to a game.
Let's go to a game. And Jason and I were
able to carpool drive to the stadium. And I have
to say this, I've been to so far before. I
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was there for the Georgia TCU National Championship game, which
was on a Monday night. It was raining, it was cold,
it was windy, and it was a blowout of a
football game. There wasn't a lot to enjoy, especially if
you're a TCU fan. Saturday, no other games competing against
the NFL gorgeous afternoon. We got there early enough because
(16:56):
I too wanted to see the stadium in all of
its glory. Mark this down if you're a football fan.
Sofi Stadium is a must see stadium in the NFL. Wow,
I don't know if i'd put it number one. I
still think US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is the neatest
(17:16):
new stadium that I've seen. But I've been fortunate enough.
I've been in Atlanta, have been in Vegas now had
the full experience of Sofar for what they've done with it,
and for me living in southern California knowing what that
was previously and how they've developed it in a certain way,
it is a really really fresh place to watch a
(17:40):
football game, and it is a must seat. Now. My
nephew or my cousin, excuse me, kind off, he's nineteen,
but family lines, he's officially my cousin is. Dad has
season tickets to Packer games, so they go to two
or three Packer games at lambeau Field. And who doesn't
want to go to lambo Field? Jason Stewart wants to
(18:01):
go to lambeau Field more than anything, right, who doesn't
all football fans? Yeah, he loved so fi. It's so
different than what you would experience in a place like
lambeau Field that I was worried that and I didn't
know what to expect I'm like, this isn't Lambeau, this
isn't where everybody wants to go. How is he going
to take to this? And he absolutely loved it.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Oh that's great, And it's a compliment coming from you
because you've been to so many different stadiums, you've been around,
and you went to Sofi on a bad.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Rainy day.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's not how you want to experience so Fi because
it's it is a there's a there's a roof, and
it's a dome, but it's not. There's tho sides and
it's open and you feel it and when it's raining.
I've also been to a Chargers game when it's raining
and it's not fun. It's not the same as going
on a nice day where the weather is really great.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Sofi Stadium is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It looks fake.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
The first time I walked into Sofi Stadium, I thought
Harry Potter was going to play quidditch.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I don't know, you probably don't know what that means,
but I literally was like, this is fake.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
AI.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yes, it just looked it just I was like, there's
no way this is where you're actually gonna play football.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I thought the thing that was I thought that it
was close where everything was an intimate setting, yet it
goes up so high, like where the scoreboard blocks the
five hundred level seat. Yes, but I still feel that
everybody is closer to the to the playing surface. And
just what they've done with the trees. That's what my
cousin was loving was all the greenery within the stadium
(19:36):
had this new feel. I said to Jason, you know,
not the easiest to get around, No, if like you're
just not walking around the concourse. But I really I
really enjoyed the in game experience and.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
There's stuff everywhere, because there are other stadiums where I
feel like like Angel Stadium to me is so not
user friendly. I don't like the way walking around Angel
Stadium with so.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Far you can get lost.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
But you know what, if you're lost, you're gonna find
food or a drink right away. Like it is everywhere.
Everything seems easily accessible no matter where you're sitting.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
There are some stadiums as well that you will make
a loop and you don't necessarily realize it, or when
you come to complete that loop, you become immediately dissatisfied
because you realize You've walked around the entire stadium and
there isn't something there to at least grab your attention.
And I don't feel like that is the case with
so far. Jason Stewart, You've been to many a game
(20:31):
at the stadium, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
A handful. And to Moncey's point, like it really depends
what the weather is, of noticed, and that if you
went to the championship game on a rainy night, that's
a horrible stadium. Go to a rainy, wet night because
they literally I think they have even marble or whatever
surface to where people are slipping on the concourse, that's
not a good thing. And then like when it's hot,
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if you've been there on a hot day, the whatever,
this kind of half dome half not dome thing, it
works as like a greenhouse effect and it melts the
people inside. So it's like we had a breeze coming in.
It was actually perfect conditions. You could wear a sweatshirt
and it was it was just a nice day. And
I was struck too by how many Charger fans because
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it's been two or three seasons since I've been to
a game, and when I first started going to the
when the Chargers first got to LA at the Home
Depot Center, it was like seventy five percent the other fans,
and I was very pleased to see. I don't know,
maybe you could tell me if I'm wrong, Dan, probably
like eighty twenty was the ratio in a seventy thousand
(21:38):
capacity stadium.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I was surprised as well. I put a TikTok up
at buyer talk of the Charger fans at one point
during the fourth quarter, and of course I just made
the line, you know who says there aren't Charger fans,
but because this stadium was full of fans. Now, I
think there was one interesting reason in eighty twenty i'd
maybe even say eighty five in favor of the Charger fans,
(22:03):
is because the Texans still in NFL relative fan base
are fairly new. So that is that that was the
one caveat. But it wasn't like there were empty seats,
and it did get loud when the Chargers were trying
to do things on defense to try to rattle CJ. Stroud,
(22:23):
So those fans were there. So I don't know if
it's all the fans selling their tickets to Broncos fans
and if the same thing with the Rams, if it's
the same thing with the forty nine ers. But I
know what the Texans. And it's not to say that
Texans don't have a strong fan base. It's just a
newer fan base and you aren't going to get the
tradition of a division rival and everything that comes.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
With it traveling.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. Yeah, it was just there were a smaller contingent.
I talked to, you know, talk to a guy that
I know there he Goes. You should have seen it
with the Eagles fans here for the Monday night game.
It was he Goes. It was crazy. It was full
of Philadelphia and they all love Nick Sirianni for whatever reason.
But it was it was quite the experience. And then MONTI.
The cool thing about it is so we had we
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had really good parking outside and then as we were
about to leave, a guy came up to me and
asked me to use my phone. So I thought that
that was that was That was great as well.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
That's awesome the fact that you looked friendly enough.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, yeah, I've done that. I'm sure it wasn't shady
at all. Who needs a phone?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I left my phone one time when I was going
to work at Universal Studios and I couldn't get a
hold of I left it at work and I went
up to a guy that looked decent, and I was like,
I'm not crazy, can I borrow your phone?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
So trust me, I've been in that position. Yeah, you
seemed welcoming enough to ask for your phone.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Very different situation that mose.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, that is not that is not it at all
what you.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Said, Dan might look friendly enough to approach. I was thinking,
maybe he looks like the biggest sucker. But yeah, he'll
actually give him his phone and the guy would walk
off with it or install some kind of a virus
on it. I don't know what his intentions were.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
He didn't or that he could beat me in a race.
Maybe that was the reason why if he took off
with my phone. But he came up to me, he says,
can I use your phone? He didn't say, oh my gosh,
I lost my phone. Oh I don't know where we're parked.
Can I have it. I still wouldn't have given him
the phone at that.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Point, sure, but then no, very different bad.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, So that was that was odd. At about four
forty local times, still in the daylight, it's.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
A very intrusive ask, because if if somebody comes up
to you, you're assuming they're going to ask you for money,
or and this guy, he seemed a little inebriated, he's
gonna ask you for like a smoke, And both of
those are reason to be like I don't have change.
Or you can't say I don't have my phone. I'm sorry,
that's that's not you can't even use that as an excuse.
So when you say no, you're basically just saying I
(24:45):
could definitely help you, but I'm choosing not to.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
So what did you do? What did you say? Because
for why I would have been.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Like why no, I just said, sorry, man can't do it.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I don't have a phone.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, I don't have a phone. I only write notes,
I only use regular mail.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
I only have.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
An iPod from back the time.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I just said no, like I no, you can't use it.
And then he asked again and I'm like, sorry, man
can't do it, and he's like, all right, have a
good day. Like so he wasn't even mad about it,
so obviously he didn't necessarily care.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I would be like, why what do you need my
phone for it?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And then and then when we left the stadium because
again a carpool adjacent. We were in traffic for about
an hour and then his ways took us aways where
we started driving on side streets.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
And making side streets in Englewood, making.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Making left turns across across four lanes of traffic at
a stop sign. It was it was quite the adventure.
But we were able to drop off Jacob at a
pizza place and not to go inside. That's just where
we met him, and then we drove home.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Why are you guys using ways when you know there's
no way around it.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
I know that was a huge mistake. Just just do
it just because ways is going to save you ten seconds,
maybe as opposed to just doing it straight.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Which is like to save ten seconds and choose this route.
You made it. We were taking on some backstreets, but
still I recommend Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
I just got done telling Dan that I always think
about it when I'm pulling out of any event at Inglewood,
so whether it's a concert at the Forum or an
old Lakers game or whatever, that there's a movie in
the eighties. I don't know if you remember this or not,
called Grand Canyon Steve Martin stars and he leaves a
Laker game and then takes the wrong turn into the
(26:35):
wrong neighborhood and Danny Glover saves his life. Anyways, I
always think about that scene, like who would be dumb
enough to make a wrong turn in Inglewood? And I
did on Sunday on Saturday, as I'm taking my son
Dan and his cousin home from the from the Charger game,
I took a wrong turn in the wrong neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That was great. It was still a good time though,
made it home to have a ghastly our neighborhood. So
that's what yeah story when I won a great capper
of a weekend that probably should have been my hate
in Love and Hate earlier in the show was I
was told that I sound like get off my lawn guy,
and no, if you were on my lawn after my fall,
(27:16):
reseating like you, you have no idea what get off
my lawn guy is. No one is touching my lawn
in October. I have no because I had my stakes out,
my tape around it, lawnmower. You're not mowing on it
like we are. Yeah we are. We are overseating for winter.
(27:36):
If you want, get off my lawn guy, Yeah, deal
with me in October. You don't want to deal with
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Isaac talked about the Chargers in them a benching justin
(27:57):
Herbert and I think we're going to see a variety
of different things throughout the NFL on how teams will
approach Week eighteen when you've already clinched a playoff Berth,
I think the Chargers look at it as what's the
difference between five, six or seven?
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Right, so what they're in, they're not gonna win the division.
They're gonna have to go on the road, they'll have
to play whoever. But I feel that it is also
quite the commentary on the matchups that we have where
we don't know who is who. It's to be careful
what you wish for sort of thing where I always
(28:33):
go back to the twenty nineteen Eastern Conference semis when
Kawhi hits that shot against the seventy six ers. I
was so relieved because the Bucks then didn't have to
play Philadelphia in the Eastern Conference finals, and then we
see what happens. Be careful what you wish for. I
know NFL teams don't do that, but the Chargers, if
they were to play Herbert to try to get a
better seed in a certain way, you're putting Herbert at risk.
(28:56):
The Texans have a game against the Colts that you
think that they're probably going to try to win, and
they'll be the fifth seed. So if there was an
advantage to go to Pittsburgh or Baltimore as the other ones,
they're probably gonna have that edge. But you don't know
what's gonna happen at the top. You know, there could
be something crazy that happens. But with the Chargers not
playing their starters, they're basically guaranteeing the Broncos the number
(29:20):
one overall seed. Now, if the Chargers can win their
first game, that also allows them to go to Denver.
Very likely in that scenarios they would be a lower seed.
Maybe not, maybe Buffalo has a seventh seed upset someone,
but then it would allow them to go to Denver
and play the Broncos in a meaningful game, and it
(29:40):
would be against the team they beat earlier this season.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, you can try and plan out, but it can
backfire on you. Sure, And I do think that if
Justin Herbert was not banged up the way he is,
he probably would have played at least a little bit.
But I think at this point the Chargers are doing
the right decision and not benching him, resting him.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
But it's because he's b because he just had surgery
ten days ago.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Like you know what I'm saying. We forget that he's
literally wearing a cast. Now, we don't forget that, but
you get I'm saying. So I think that's a big reason.
But you're right, they're kind of just like, all right,
we're we're in it, and let's see what happens. Let's
try not to mess with faith.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, you can't. You can't predict what's gonna happen. We
think we know how it's gonna sort out, just like
we thought last year. We knew how the NFC was
gonna be, and then a bunch of stuff changed when
the Bears beat the Packers. And so instead of instead
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week seventeen.
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Speaker 9 (31:15):
The Bills will either fail on a two point conversion
of the Eagles will win thirteen to twelve, or the
Bills will convert the two points and the Bills will
win fourteen to thirteen. Allen puts a man in motion.
Allen looks he's back, he's firing and.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
It is incomplete thinggos Thegleo's win. Now there's five stuconds
on the clock, but the Eagles are gonna win. They
threw a pass force Shakir and it wasn't even close.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well, you didn't hear Meryl Reese on ninety four wip
Egos Radio Network say, was this is all on? Sean McDermott.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
I would just like to say that I feel like
that was selected on purpose.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Ah the plan we could have done a Why Leonard
play of the day.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, no, because that definitely rivaled that that big play
that was seen by pretty much the entire country.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
But there with this play, as a born and raised
Pistons fan, I almost feel like I had to veto that.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, it wasn't gonna happens.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Are fine, You're fine.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I know it is.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Did you even watch the game? Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yes, thank you ty Iraq for that great play of
the day here on Fox Sports Radio. If you know,
and Rich, we're in earlier today. That's my way of
ending your argument.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
No, I got it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It was clear they were in earlier today for Dan
Patrick on the Dan Patrick Show. So the cruise in
so you got Mansie, myself, Chris Purfett, Jason Stewart's here
as his Isaac Glow, and Crome. And it only took
me seventeen weeks of NFL football to come up with
a brand new segment for the NFL regular season. And
(32:58):
I'm calling it Week seventeen. Now, as I would workshop
this each week, I would, with a corresponding week, have
a number of just whax Statskay, I didn't come up
with seventeen, but I do have nine nine stats from
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week seventeen or other tidbits that you may have missed.
And when we say week seventeen, I mean w e
ak coming off of this Eagles victory, Manzi, I don't
know if you know this number nine. No, this is
number one. I'm actually counting up. I'm actual number one.
Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts oh of seven in the second
(33:41):
half of yesterday's win against the Buffalo Bills. That's a
week they do midweek major like this is my Week seventeen,
all right?
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, Eagles as a team had eighteen rushing yards in
the second half. Combine that with number one Monzy, they
had eighteen yards of offense in the second half. That's
not even to talk about the sacks that Jalen ERDs.
Number three the Vikings. Sorry, Chris, you may want to
(34:12):
plug gears for this one. Had three net yards passing
in the win over the Lions on Christmas Day. So
Max Broseworth threw for fifty one yards, but he was
sacked like seven times for forty eight yards, which gave
them a net passing total of three and Minnesota still
won the game.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Do you catch that Bengals Cardinals game yesterday?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
M smidge?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah? Did you see Cody Ford's reception?
Speaker 7 (34:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh, the offensive lineman for the Bengals three. Yeah. He
had more catches in yards than Marvin Harrison Junior had
for Arizona. If you would have played a guard in
your fantasy team, he would have performed better. He would
have given you three point one points, better than others,
(34:56):
including Marvin Harrison Junior who played in the same game.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Jason Stewart mentioned this earlier. Jets still zero interceptions on
the season.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
My favorite stat of the entire year this is.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
To cancel it out. Number six. Number six, Cameron Dicker
missed a pat and a thirty two yard field goal
and a four point loss to the Texans. How much
were those misses worth? If he misses a thirty two
yard field goal and an extra point four, Yeah, they
lost by four. You had not missed a field goal
inside of forty yards before Saturday. He also had not
(35:30):
missed an extra point all season. All happened in the
same game. Number seven, The Raiders have now lost ten straight. Right,
you would think that this would could be some sort
of record. You are wrong. It matches last season's streak
of ten losses in a row. Forget this fifth longest
(35:55):
in franchise history, so it's probably eleven is fourth long longest,
twelve is third longest, thirteen his second longest, and they
had a fourteen game losing streak at some point. Already
got two more for you.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Number eight.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Packers quarterback Clayton Tune had a QBR of zero point one,
and he did not register a quarterback rating, going one
for eight for eight yards and an interception. And finally,
in my week seventeen, Number nine, the Carolina Panthers lined
up in victory formation yesterday, down seventeen points to the
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Seattle Seahawks. They had bigger fish to Friday week eighteen.
They didn't even try. They took a knee, turned it
over on downs, and then the Seahawks ended up doing
their own victory formation.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.