December 31, 2025 • 51 mins
On this edition of The Best Of Covino and Rich: Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres in for C&R as they discuss what the most controversial calls in sports history have been and why. Dan and Aaron go to callers to give controversial calls. they discuss New Years' Eve plans before talking about the possibility of this being the final game of Aaron Rodgers career.
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it's the worst call of all time. Not only is
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Every Monday, Christopher Fetts in place of Iowa Sam Today,
Jason Stewart, yes to say, is he the first person
to ever take off the day for the Redly Quest Bowl?
Gotta be Ready's sick. I got word that Sam is
under the weather air quotes. I'm I'm not using air
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quotes on the radio. I'm not doing that. I will
say that maybe he pregamed too hard for this. IOWA
relya Quest Bowl which ended up in victory over Vanderbilt today,
as you heard Isaac glowing Kron and the update, A
lot of games going on will keep you updated, but
the game that we're talking about and it spreads to
a bigger picture. Just like Kevino and Rich, we love
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to include you guys in on the conversation eight seven
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six six three six'. Nine the REASON i give that
number out now and don't call because you don't even
know what we're going to talk. About but we love
audience participation because you, know, somewhere at some point in
your sporting, life you remembered an awful call that went
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against your. Team and an awful call is one that
will stick with you. Forever how DO i know this
because it seems to be one of the only talking
points leading up to tonight's game Between miami And Ohio,
state AND i am looking right now at an Article
Aaron torres From The Sporting news from just three days.
(02:30):
Ago sure in talking about The National championship game from
the two thousand and two. Season it happened in Early
january of two thousand and three in The Fiesta, bowl
and the title says for The Sporting news Was Glenn
sharp's pass interference The miami defensive back On Ohio state
wide receiver and Cornerback Chris. Gamble the quote the pass
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interference call was it the quote worst call of all? Time.
Woo so when talking about this game, tonight where players
who are playing in the game, tonight not only do
they have no recollection of, it many of them not.
Born say there may be one or, two maybe a
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handful of players that were born as this game was being,
Played but we're talking about, eighteen nineteen twenty year old.
Guys they don't even know anything about this game unless
they watched it on A dvd or founded on. YouTube
if you need a refresher on how that game didn't
end while some thought it did. End this Was Keith
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jackson And Dan fouts ON abc on the call That
National Championship night.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Were reps up there as as a white out. Two
the ball goes into the end zone and that is
in you conflate intended for. Gamble now there is a
penalty flag.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Throne hold on hol the.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Phone everybody comes running down on the. Field if you
gotta get off because there's a penalty flag. THRONE i
think it's Against.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Miami and if it's thrown in the end, zone the
ball will be placed on the one yard.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Line first in Gold.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Glenn sharp trying to Cover Chris gampbell that he may
have arrived ten too. Soon Randy crystal pasn't, There.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah Glenn, sharp thirty one On chris gamble number.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Seven, oh that's a tough call. There what about this?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Angle bad?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Call that?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Call, Okay Dan fouts twenty three years, later it was
the right. Call you just got a bad. Replay so
the replay that you see sees two guys going up
for a football And gamble And sharp and what seems
like a jump all situation and pass interference was. Called
the contact on the play that actually rose to the
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level of pass interference came before those players were put on.
Camera it was not in the end zone in a
jump ball. Situation If Craig crensle had thrown the. Football
by the, way this is just me going off On
Dan fouts twenty three years. Later If Craig crenzel still
had the football in his hand when the play, happened
it would have been defensive. Holding what the referees were
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discussing was was it pass interference or was it defensive.
Holding it ended up rising to the level of pass
interference because the interference came when the ball was in the.
Air that is my story And i'm sticking to it
and the reason why Official Terry porter made that. Call
it may have been a late. Call it was a
call That miami jumped the gun and thought that they
had won a national, championship but a late flag came.
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In it is not the worst call of all, Time Sporting,
news and it is not bad Call Dan. Fouts, now
AS i look at it from that, way it is
amazing that twenty three years later we are still talking
about this. Play and that's where we. Start controversial calls in,
sports the calls that you remember to this day because
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of how they affect the outcome of some of the
most important sporting events of our. Lifetime DO i dare
read the headline THAT i just? Found let's read? It?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes, Okay So Glenn, sharp who was the defensive, back
was later.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Charged with. Murder i'm just gonna say. It he, Was.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay i've been looking to see IF i can confirm
that he was ever convicted or, not BUT i cannot
find it anywhere on the, internet which is kind of.
Amazing the headline from Off Tackle empire in twenty, Twelve Glenn,
Sharp Glenn sharp charged with first degree murder and he
still committed past. Interference see that person that's fighting with
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evened Out, well not so much because fouts And Sporting
news feel a certain.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Way but everybody, complains And miami, complains and THE u,
complains and everybody complains about that. Call but it's a,
call whether whether you liked it or, not it still
is talked about to this. Day so now that brings
us to this point instead of talking about Is Ohio
state going to be able to match up With miami
offensive defensive lines which has been talked about and vice.
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Versa by the, way for The buckeyes And, hurricanes it's
not so much been that in Ken Ohio state rebound
from their loss To. Indiana it's been more about mentioning
this game and really where these two programs have gone
since that, point because that was kind of the end
of THE u part two and then the start of
the real rise For Ohio, state where they've been on
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an unbelievable heater for the past twenty, years starting with
that national championship. Win, Yeah so to the game really.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Quick CAN i just, say first of, ALL i have
been genuinely shocked how many people are trying to play
up that narrative of oh. Two that the reason that
the two programs went in different. Directions one was coached
By Jim, tressel the other was coached By Larry. Koker
it's really that. Simple that is why the two programs
went in two different. Directions, Whatever So i'm gonna give you.
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One the stakes were not nearly as. High BUT i
will tell you the most, memorable awful miss call.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
THAT i can.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Remember it was The Armando galarraga play that robbed him
of a perfect. Game, yes and it stands out because
one profet you, know may have been In Comerica park
that Day june, second twenty, ten But it stands out
because in the, moment you, like you, know pass interference
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is by definition a fifty to fifty judgment.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Play Hm Armando.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Galraga in the moment you knew it was, like oh
he the ump just missed. That Jim, joyce by the,
way was the. Ump we still know his name fifteen years.
Later he missed. It there's no, replay there's no way
to get it, right there's no flag to, throw there's
no challenge. This it was just a perfect game that
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should have been a perfect. Game that wasn't a perfect.
Game and you knew it in the.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Moment it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Wasn't you had to look at ten different replays and
maybe the need you, know maybe the foot, touch the. Bait, no, no,
no it was wrong in the, moment and he knew
it right.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Away let's hear that.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Moment round ball right, Side, cabrera we'll cut it.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Off colororaga.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Turs he's, Out he's, safe he is. Safe he is
safe at, first, babe are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Me why is he? Safey there you? Go he that
call robbed everybody of. Something it robbed like that call
right there made me realize that it Robbed the announcers
of the opportunity to call a perfect. Game when you're
looking back on your career thirty years, later what were
the Highlights i'll never forget WHEN i was there When
Armando galarraga threw a perfect game for The. Tigers now
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you can Say i'll never forget When Jim joyce messed
up the perfect game For Armando, galarraga but it doesn't
have the gravitas of actually having a perfect. Game Jason, stewart.
Speaker 9 (09:58):
Remembering, yesterday twenty four hours, ago you And momsey Bill
aniols were having a heated debate about whether or not
Pukuin akua's play On monday night was a, Catch And
i'm gonna reiterate my stance on. THIS i actually did
some umpiring In little league in high, school and my
whole thing was reward the great. Play so if there's
a if there's like a diving play at shortstop and
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he makes a throw that's a, banger you need to
have the awareness in the situation to reward the great.
Play nobody's gonna argue with you if you call him.
Out this was a thing With Jim, joyce, like you
need to have the awareness of these Moment this. SITUATION
i couldn't believe at that time that a veteran umpire
would on a banger not just give it to the
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defense for the situation for, Baseball and so that's kind
of my overall, thing like reward the, play reward the great,
play reward the great. Moment Jim joyce didn't have that
in that. MOMENT i love how.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The tigers and we look at it as, like what
a touching, Moment BUT i almost feel like they're, like
you know, What you're gonna go to home. Plate you're
gonna hand up the hand of the lineup. Card the next,
day you, Know joyce is crying at home plate and
feeling emotional about what went, On but it's also a
kind of, yeah we, Remember, yeah they actually everybody's gonna
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remember this for that long and then you know THEY
i don't, know he apologized for making the. Call people
try to get the call overturned and turned. Around that never.
Happened everybody saw the missed call and there was nothing
they could do about it because of his. Actions and
to your, Point, jason what is Worse Armando coloraga not
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having a perfect game because of that call or having
a perfect game because the guy was, safe, Right like, What,
like it is a hundred times worse of not having
the perfect. Game it's not even. Close you much rather
would have the perfect, game but, like you know, what
he was actually. Safe he'm, like well it was like
it is it. Is it's not even. Close it is
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so much worse to not have the perfect game because
of the, announcer because of the fans that were, there
that stayed for all the nine, innings all the memories
that they. Had that, is it is one hundred times
worse to not have the perfect game as opposed to
having it and having a blown. Call here's the other, thing.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
TOO i don't want to steal anybody, else's But i'm
guessing they're salmon.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Up you don't want to sam it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
UP i don't want to sam it. Up, no, no, No
But i'm sure you're gonna. Reference there's two or three
that immediately come to. MIND i won't say, him but big,
moments big, games, PLAYOFFS, nfc chit, whatever college, Football national.
Tips it Was june, second twenty. Ten so To dan's,
point if you call them safe and you're not, sure
like this DOESN'T i know baseball Purest, oh every game
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one hundred and sixty.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Two they all, count they don't all.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Count it Was june, Second it Wasn't october eleventh In
game four of THE. Lcs, okay, anyway that's my only.
Point that's a regular season, Game that's WHAT i.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Mean, yes this did the call With Ohio, state with
the Ficial Terry. PORTER i know his. NAME i Know
miami fans know his, name And i'm Sure Ohio state
fans know his. NAME i think the country Knows Jim, joyce,
yes AND i don't know if the country Knows Terry.
Porter but there are other officials that have made calls
that we. Remember Isaac, lohenkron do you have a nominee
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in terms of calls controversial calls in? SPORTS i.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Do let's go back to THE Nfc championship game after
the twenty eighteen. Season The rams and The saints tied
at twenty one forty nine left in the fourth, Quarter
New orleans with a third down and ten at The
rams thirteen yard.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Line passes in, complete no flag For Tommy, Lee lewis
Mckil Roaby coleman delivered a hit and the two officials
talk to each. Other crowd's going crazy as there's no.
Flag that should have been a, penalty And John payton
is justifiably.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Upset and obviously it had a lot to do if
The rams going to The Super bowl and The Saint
it's not that.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Year it was so clear and, blatant and it was so.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
IMPACTFUL i think THE, nfl IF i can, remember overcorrected
because the next year pass interference could be challenged and
how was he an even bigger disaster IF i.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Remember it was such a disaster that In week two
The seahawks got a pass interference call in their benefit
against The steelers on a basically a jump. Ball in THE,
nfl there was like a fifty yard, penalty and THE
nfl is, like you know, What, yeah we're not gonna
do this, Anymore like it will change the role at
the end of the, year but we're not calling like
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get stopped after two weeks because of how absurd it.
Was it was so. Absurd WHEN i see those White ram,
helmets that's WHAT i think, Of, like that's the. PLAY
i don't think of their return TO LA i think,
of is It Tommy Lee, lewis the receiver for The
saints that they That Joe buck mentioned him like all
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of his his limbs are in the air after being
hit on the, play with the football still in somewhat
catchable you, know, Relevance and that's WHAT i remember of.
It but WHEN i see those white, HORNS i can't
help but not think of that play In New. Orleans
wasn't there wasn't there.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
A thing in our talk space. Here wasn't there like
a that's bs THE nfl just wants the NEW NFL
la team to be in The Super. Bowl wasn't that
a weird kind of theory that?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Week, yes AND i found that there was a theory
that because Of Bounty gait And Sean, payton that they
didn't want them in that that was the. Theory, now
the play calling leading up to that, play it was
not some Of Sean payton's finer, Moments like there were
opportunities where they could have played it, better done it
better with the, clock but they they. Didn't they had missed.
OPPORTUNITIES i think they tried to throw screens Like Michael
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thomas and it ended up being dropped or it was
was in the ground or too low for him to.
Handle but it Wasn't it wasn't the finest. Moment but
in that situation when you have a guy appears to
be open and then just gets leveled before the ball
even gets. There by the, way it's the play THAT
i still go back to WHEN i hear THE nfl saying,
like do we need eight? Officials, no we just need better.
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Officials that's what we. Need we just need better. Officials
we need full time. Officials we need guys who played the.
Game we need. Guys it's not an age is a
sort of, thing but they're relying on guys who have
a lot of years in The National Football. League you
need to develop younger officials and bring them along and
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move them along and have a new core of guys
because there's just not there's so much that goes on
and there's so much at. Stake that is definitely one
of the worst.
Speaker 10 (16:43):
Calls Chris, Purfett, yeah there's a lot of DIRECTIONS i
could go in This and since we're In, DETROIT i
could talk about the picked up flag in The Cowboys
lions playoff game that was because it feels like a
lot goes Against, detroit AND i could nerd out and
start talking about, soccer about The maridonna hand Of, god
the handball that, missed sure Between.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Argentina but Let's iowa samit some. More, Yeah, No.
Speaker 10 (17:03):
I'm gonna Go i'm gonna go back this because since
we're talking about THE nfl and we're talking about officials
here and we're talking about how, look how do you
get A by the, WAY.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I love how he Subtly iowa sammed this. Up did
you guys catch this trying not like it was trying to,
like so there's somebody that is probably tweeting in or
calling in the Like maradona hand of. Good it has
A wikipedia. Entry chris already just said. It So i'm
not gonna call.
Speaker 10 (17:31):
It, Okay i'm Going i'm gonna stop it at this
one with. This this was this Was Phil luckett not
getting a coin toss right On thanksgiving between The steelers
and The. Lions you can hear Him Jerome bettis, SAYING i,
SAID i said. Tales that's so.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Spoiler Its lions go on to win that game Over.
PITTSBURGH i felt bad until the revenge came Where Jerome
bettis got to win In detroit over The seahawks And
Super bowl forty because of some by the, way awful
officiating calls throughout that. GAME i could just Put Super
bowl forty as a topic, here BUT i will not do.
So but that's a great. Call i'll always remember That.
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Thanksgiving jerome bettis looking around with that look on his,
face like what what's going? On what's? Said?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Tails, yes first time ever people considered a video replay
on coin toss is going For, No i'm getting bad.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Joke bet, again my whole. Solution don't know what my
coin toss solution. Is so THE nfl is mucho. Dollars,
sure just put the helmet of one team on one
side and the helmet of the other team on the other,
side and don't ask what flip it up and whatever
team comes, up that's who gets the, choice. Right they
don't need to do heads or tails like it's pretty.
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Simple it's and then you know what you. Do you
auction that coin off to be, like, oh guess WHAT
i have the coin From week fourteen when The dolphins
ended up playing The. Jets you could.
Speaker 10 (18:53):
Even make this part of the schedule announcement. Day you
have like a full minting that you show off shut
off every, game but the coins that are minted that
will be used in those.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
GAMES i think it's, very very easy for THE, nfl
but they choose not to listen to. Me, jason do
we have any feedback on the lines on who wants
to get in on controversial calls BEFORE i add? Another all,
right let's go to the line. First who do we? Got? Oh,
no you know, what let me, uh let's skip. That
i'll give. You i'll give you. Mine Rameil robinson nineteen
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eighty Nine National Championship Game college, Basketball michigan Against Seaton.
Hall michigan's down by. One Ramel robinson dribbles up the,
court dribbles in the middle of the, lane wasn't even
going to, shoot was looking to pass the, ball and
somehow a foul on the floor was called a reach
in giving him two free throws with three seconds. Left
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he makes. Both seat in the, hall gets off a
last second prayer from about twenty three feet bounce his
heart off the. Backboard michigan ends up winning The national.
Championship isaac Lohncron, okay hold on a, second you want
to hear. It let's hear. It, oh, Sure michigan's. Ball
they've got an opportunity here, now but win. It they've
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got a hurry five.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Seconds robinson, goes, wow foul call with three, seconds like.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
A foul Against Satan hall with three.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Seconds if there was a phantom. Foul, Uh Brent, Musburger Billy,
PACKER Cbs sports on the. Call if there ever was
a phantom, foul it was in The kingdome that day In.
Seattle one of the worst calls in college basketball.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
History, well and that goes to what we were saying
earlier With galarraga And Jim joyce is like no one
remembers the fifty to fifty call that doesn't get. Called
everybody remembers the ten ninety call that does get, called
or the zero one. Percent you know What i'm, Saying,
like you, know.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Somebody will, say, Well Romel robinson had to make those free. Throws,
well he shouldn't have had to shoot the free throws
that would have given. Him there's three seconds left in the,
game somebody's gonna have to throw up a pressure filled.
Shot he had two opportunities to keep them. Alive he
made them, both so they actually. Won he all he
had to do is make one of two and they're
in overtime like they're trailing by. One it was such
an awful call real.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
QUICK i know it's a cliche thing to, say BUT
i am of the belief everyone, says, like if it's
a foul in the first, minute it should be a
foul in the last. MINUTE i actually fundamentally disagree with.
THAT i, think, certainly if a foul is a non,
negotiable like especially in, basketball if the penalty is a non,
Negotiable but if it's like a fifty to fifty, CALL
i would rather just the dudes on the court figured it.
(21:34):
OUT i don't know if that makes.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
IT i Think jason's there with, you like on The
Jim joyce, call like they to his, point, like, yeah
if you if it's, close you're gonna ring them, up
like reward the. Play all, right who do we got
on the? Line, Jason Richard richard In? Seattle all, right you're, There, Richard.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Hey even Though i'm The, Seahawks, Richard mary is.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
Historic the Fail, Mary, yes.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
YES i agree with. You it's such an awful call
with replacement, REFS.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
I believe that game like that had to be the
reason they brought the refs. BACK i don't think of
the Film mary hadn't, happened that lockout would have continued
with the.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Officials, YEAH i. Agree it was so. Bad and as
A seahawks, FAN i remember WHERE i was watching that.
Game it was at my now wife then girlfriend's, apartment
And i'm, like they're going to actually give them the
touchdown because these idiots think that ty goes to the
offense even though there. Wasn't there wasn't anything close to a,
tie but there was a joint possession after the, fact
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but it was clearly an interception By Green bay and
the replacement. Refs by the way that replacement ref went,
on did radio, interviews may have written a, book took
full advantage of. It who do we, Got, Jason Josh, Fresno,
josh are you?
Speaker 13 (22:48):
There, Yep i'm.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Here controversial calls in? Sports what's your?
Speaker 13 (22:53):
NOMINEE i would say it's not one. CALL i would
say it would have to be a confluence of. Calls
they went in one direction versus the. Other and that's
got to be The Sacramento kings versus THE La.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Lakers oh my, God, Yes isaac Long kron is right
there with. You the look on his face when you
started to Say Sacramento. KINGS i was at that. GAME
i covered that. Game oh, yeah that that goes down in.
HISTORY i remember at the time how long it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Lasted BUT i will say this AS i recall AND
i got to confirm. It at the same, time you
have The Sacramento kings free throw shooting in game seven
that was about fifty. Percent so that's why that conspiracy
theory was as exciting as it.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
IS i think just doesn't hold one. Well, also they
probably thought they weren't going to get any, calls so
they weren't prepping for their free throws in game, Seven
so that's probably why they missed all of that. Too shit,
here when did The Robert ory thing? Happen when that
was game four of that. Series here's one thing That i'll,
say because it all started out with The Miami Ohio,
state whether it be With Jim, joyce whether it be
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with hand Of, god whether it be With Phil luckett
and his coin, toss those are kind of in. Dispute
like The Rameil robinson play THAT i brought, up nobody
has seen a foul except that official The Miami Ohio state.
One maybe it's just me and The buckeye fans that
feel like there is still that there was past interference
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but The Jim joyce one clear is freaking. DAY i
don't know if The rams fans would have an argument for, what,
uh you know what happened To Tommy Lee lewis of The,
saints who is At Nikkel Robie coleman on the on
the defensive hits on that, play but those pretty. INDEFENSIBLE
i don't know anybody who's, like you know, what that's
(24:45):
not past, interference like it was totally past.
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this on the heels Of TONIGHT'S i don't know if
it's a, Rematch, aaron BUT i mean.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Not, you but society stop calling it happened twenty three years.
Ago it's they've Played, dan correct. ME i think they
played a home and home in the regular. Season yes they, Did, yes,
yep it Was it wasn't last year Old Missing georgia
is a rematch from two months.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Ago. Ohios they played At miami AND i think had
twelve yards passing the entire. Game it was they also
played like prior to that nineteen ninety nine and it
was right when THE u was about to take off
again like during that, run and they crushed him at
The meadowlands In New. Jersey Jason stewart's, Here Isaac Lown
crown's gonna have an update in the. Set chrisperfette hanging Out.
(25:52):
Jason who do we got on the line in our
Controversial calls And? Sports?
Speaker 9 (25:58):
Hey, Dan, Yes i've got three callers on the line
that are going to inform us of just through the
volume of, calls what we. Missed last last, segment we
missed on such a major one that three callers rushed
to their phones and Called Fox Sports. Radio we have
(26:19):
a trip In. Vegas we Have danny In Southern california
And matt In, kansas each of these to tell us what. Happened,
okay so it's a toy. THREE i think that that's.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Perfect that's. PERFECT i think it sounds. Perfect, hey trip In?
Vegas what what did we? Miss? Uh?
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Two actually we missed The.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay stop, stop stop, Stop i'm, Sorry, trip you Can't,
iowa sammit like it's got one of the other you,
Know so it's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Three people called in to say the same, one Tuck.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Roll the general? One is that the? One it's fair
pretty big. One, GOSH i don't mean to Cut trip.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Off.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Trip are you still, There? Danny, YES i got.
Speaker 12 (27:07):
One, Yeah I'm i'm on THE. NFL i, mean who
knows That drew Blacks up takes over the next? Year
there is No Tom brady and And i'm still sore about.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It, yeah you guys talking over who's? It it's? Tripping
who CAN i take the tripping? Drip i'm tripping right?
Now all? Right So, Trip so you're, saying Tuck, rull
are you on the side of?
Speaker 12 (27:34):
THAT i got another? ONE i got a better.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
One oh, Okay, hey all, right, Okay So danny Tuck, Rull,
yeah you're right about the blood. Cell you're right about The,
brady absolutely the one we. Missed what's your other? One?
Trip all?
Speaker 12 (27:50):
Right how ABOUT i don't know if y'all said this nineteen,
ninety wasn't?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It?
Speaker 12 (27:53):
Uh colorado got five downs Against.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Missouri yes they. Did, yes the fifth down Redimption big Eight. Conference,
absolutely five. Downs that's, great great, call that is WHAT
i that's that was worth. It he could Have Iowa
sam did for bringing that one. Back there was the
Rocket ismael clip Against colorado later on in the college football,
(28:19):
season but that was a. Clip it was a block
in the. BACK i think that there's this Is. Aaron
you're not to this point, Yet, jason IS i Am
isaac maybe getting there. Soon when there's a call THAT
i felt like somebody would definitely bring up and no one,
has you're, like maybe maybe that was just too long.
(28:42):
Ago Don denkinger nineteen eighty Five World. Series oh, oh
we had another call in, Fact james And tacoma doesn't
want to be sammed. Up go, Ahead, james what did
you want to?
Speaker 12 (28:55):
Say that's the wise mention In john Deak mister ninety,
six Calling George order safe the first.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Base let's hear the, Call let's hear how it. Happened
we'll swimper to the right. Side warrel races over the
cover that though doesn't get. Him warrell got in the
bang and an arguing Here.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Lance version amongst the other quartet.
Speaker 12 (29:20):
Looks like he's.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
OUT i don't think there's any doubt about.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It that was the, call by the, way that Was
Al michaels on the cause for.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
FOR ABC abcge With JOm. Palmer first of, All, chris
send the send that portion of this segment where we
had triple calls about one, thing send it to The
Marconi awards if he could before the end of the.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Show. Yeah, yeah he was not gonna defend. Myself okay
for The Iowas sam comment That jason, made Because jason,
said we have three, callers they all have the same,
thing so they all had The tuck. Rule that's where it.
Was that's what that's what we. Had so we had three,
callers SO i thought the third caller had The tuck.
Rule so WHEN i Mentioned Don, DENKINGER i did not.
(30:03):
Realize SO i was not trying To Iowa sam it.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
Up, yeah it's a there was a lot to get
wrong in that whole. Thing BUT i do want to
say about The don dinkinshre thing because we're talking nineteen eighty.
Five Ron reagan was in office a long time. AGO
i remember it though really, well and that speaks to
how OLD i. Am it was the ninth. Inning it
was one out in the ninth inning when that when that,
(30:28):
happened and The cardinals had a one run lead in
the ninth and if they, win they won The World.
Series The cardinals would have won in nineteen eighty five
If Don denkinsher makes the right. Call there was no.
Replay in, FACT i was surprised That Aaron torres brought
up his example in twenty. Ten there wasn't a. Replay
So baseball's real slow to this.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Stuff i'm Gonna i'm gonna go To isaac for an,
update BUT i also Want isaac's, thoughts quick thoughts on.
This do you think because of how eighty six finished
With buckner that, eight that this call in eighty five
is completely looked over because we have. Them it's it's
not a call in The Mets Red, sox but it
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is the. Play and so a year after what would
have been an atrocious call in a, travesty that we
then instead talk about The Red sox and the curse and.
Everything i'm bringing it up BECAUSE i obviously think that
it did that it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Did that's a great. Question there's a couple of factors
that play into. It the first IS i suppose that
happened in A game six and not in A game
seven as big as it was the next. Night not
only did The royals Win game seven they wanted by
a final score of eleven to, Nothing SO i think
that that dissipated that a little. Bit but absolutely what
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happened the following year was so mega iconic because of
the whole circumstances of The mets comeback and the air
and the fact that they did have to come from
behind again to win The World series two days later
In game. Seven but all, that as dramatic as it
was on his own on its, own was magnified by
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the two major market, franchises The mets and The Red,
sox one of the legacy franchises in, sports The Red
sox having a chance to bust what was that at that,
point a sixty eight year. Curse all those factors magnified
it to be much bigger than when it happened the year,
before when you had a legacy franchise on The, cardinals
(32:30):
but relatively speaking to less major market cities In Kansas
city And Saint.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Louis it's funny we've had great college football national championship,
Games AND i still think that that one is remembered
for whatever, reason whether it be the, call whether it
be because it was the you at that, time because
it Was miami's winning, streak. Whatever but you, know some
of The Alabama Georgia National championship, games like you know
the you know the game winner To Hunter, renfro, LIKE
(32:57):
i think those sometimes get lost in the shuffle a little,
bit and this one is still remembered twenty three years.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
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Speaker 3 (33:10):
App i'm, SORRY i love The SUNBALL i, do sue,
me do whatever you. WANT i absolutely love it and
it's been a. Dandy not Only Aeron torres do have
a great game on This New Year's eve n Al.
Paso the field looks, magnificent full end zones. Painted none
of this border grass stuff that The Rose bull has
(33:32):
been doing for like the last decade and a. Half
quit with that. Crap just fill the whole end. Zone
fill it all with paint like the gold Of Arizona
state or the blue Of duke And Arizona states wearing
their's sparky. Helmets it's just a great looking. GAME i
love The sunball Aeron. Torres there's nothing you can do about,
it CAN i?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Say, also this is the dichotomy of the non Playoff
bowl game in twenty twenty. Five they just Showed steve
Sark keys And isaac just gave the. Score texas up
twenty four to twenty Against michigan going into the fourth.
Quarter biff The michigan interm ooj, yeah, yes as he,
said he's gonna go smoke himself to death with cigars
here at the end of this, Game Steve sarkijan looked
(34:14):
like he was gonna vomit on the, sideline like if
he just, knows IF i lose this, game it's eight
months of crap from my fan base UNTIL i. THINK
i don't know if they open With Ohio state next,
year BUT i know they Play Ohio state early in the.
Season it's just eight months of crap IF i lose this.
Game he looked sick to his. Stomach texas up twenty
four to. Twenty so the thrill of victory in the agony,
(34:35):
DEFEAT i guess still exists in The Citrus Cheese Its.
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(35:02):
New Year's. Eve we Say Happy New year to all of.
You if you're listening around the world and it's already
The new, Year Happy New. Year i've got a date
with THE tv. Tonight my wife and son will be
there with me Watching Ohio state taking On. Miami Aaron,
TORRES i assume your plans will include some college oops
and some buck guys And hurricanes as. Well is that?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
TRUE i think most of the college oops will be
basically done by the time we're.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Off airy they could have just went with it and
so all, yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
He's pulling up some, tape you, know grinding out lipscomb
tape and going into the new. Year and then ALSO
i will say, Genuinely i'm excited For Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
MIAMI i think it's gonna be a great.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Game, no it is not a rematch from the two
thousand and Two they just happen to play in the.
Postseason BUT i am very excited for the. Game and,
Yes i'll put college hoops on a SECOND tv just for.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You Dem Jason, stewart will you be partying like it's
two thousand and? Two what are your plans this?
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Day, yeah the partying days are. Over the majority of
my household is wrapped up in The Stranger things, phenomenon
and The Stranger things series finale airs at five Pm,
pacific SO i will be on that. Train and do
you know the ball dropping thing that happens this time of?
Year Dick clark started, it and then seventy years Later
(36:16):
Ryan seacrest started doing. It, Well dodger fans AND i
have picked up our own. Tradition it started a year
ago tonight, actually and it goes something like. This we
watched the ball drop, Ourselves. Chris we watch our own
ball drop.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
Heating up gives sets under, dispot but The japson Can
hernandez get to the back before the football he does
on a root team, Play Aaron jigs just flubs it
in center field and The dodgers catch a huge break.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Right, there and a.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
TRADITION i watch it On TikTok at least six, Times
Aaron judge dropping the ball his only heir of the.
Year game five of The World, series a ball drop
allows The dodgers to score five runs the less's. History
so here In Los angeles our own ball dropping all
(37:10):
day Until Ryan seacrest officially does it in six.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Hours here there are moments in sports where there have
been other drops that would be. APROPOS i don't know
if they dropped the ball seven times In philadelphia For
nelson agelor but that could have also been a tradition
that was. Started how did we not think of that
for a?
Speaker 9 (37:27):
Segment? NOW i feel the best ball Dropping Mark andrews
would have been topping on the LAST.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I don't think of the Ravens Lee evans had an
opportunity to beat The patriots in AN afc championship, game
couldn't reel it? In that could be.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
One it's not quite the ball, drop but remember how
the National championship game in college basketball ended a manual
sharp pump faked lost the ball and couldn't touch it
otherwise it would be a, turnover and the clock ran.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Out that was how the season. Ended that's sort of
a ball. Drop i'll tell you that that ending has
gotten lost in our year in. Reviews and this was
a final four with we had all number one.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Seeds we had All it was funny because we were
on a few weeks ago in the i think in
the earlier time, slot and we were talking about most
memorable moments of twenty twenty five AND i went With Shador,
sanders you, know you, know talk about drop dropping the.
Draft but the semi, FINAL i Think duke was up
twelve with six minutes to go or something like. That mm,
(38:31):
hmm was still one of the craziest results. Ever houston
was up reasonably big late in the, game and they
lost in that. Manner but the semi, final if you
remember it was it was pre you, know set In
Stone Cooper flag is gonna play for a national championship
and it's gonna be this huge, thing and it. Was
AND i was also sitting right behind The houston fan,
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section AND i just vividly remember more the semi final
of just when the butt when everything goes, five like
hats are being thrown in the, air and it was
just this unbelievable celebration only for two nights. Later LIKE i,
Said Emmanuel sharp pump, fakes loses the, ball can't touch,
it and that's how the game.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Ends So chris brought up when we did we did controversial.
Calls you brought up The Lions cowboys wild card game
and the flag that was lifted Against dallas on the pass, interference, right, yeah,
Yeah and so that playoff run by the, way And
i'll always remember it because that call went against The.
Lions then the next week the Des bryant catch went
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against The. Cowboys, yeah went against The. Cowboys then the next,
week The packers had a lead against The, seahawks only
to Have seattle come back in the final three minutes
and then end up winning it in. Overtime and Then
seattle lost The Super bowl Because Russell wilson threw an
interception at the goal On, now they're not all, calls
but they were all enormous significant turns for the game
(39:55):
where different outcomes could have happened in that playoff. RUN
i only bring that up because of what And torres talked.
About houston blows a lead Against. Florida duke blew a
lead Against. Houston Texas tech blew a lead Against florida
in their regional final game The Arkansaw Texas tech game
prior in The sweet sixteen THAT i cannot stop talking
about because of the survivor. Pools they blew a lead
(40:17):
in that. One like there was just it was each
round there was something that forget.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Happened, yukon the two time defending, champions absolutely Had florida
on the ropes in the round of thirty. Two it
was like disasters here For, yukon and they were another
ONE i think with like six minutes to go they
were up six or something.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Like, that and it. Was it was a crazy Tournament.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Florida basically every game had a huge, comeback Including Texas, tech,
who of course before that Beat arkansas on the round
OF Us sweet.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Sears good, memories fun. Time tournament's gonna be just around
the corner before you know. It but what is just
around the? Corner we gave team to The National Football league.
Season Aaron rodgers and The Pittsburgh steelers are home to
The Baltimore ravens as they play for THE Afc North,
crown as they play for the fourth seed in the.
Playoffs in THE afc playoff, picture and they play to
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not go. Home there also could be some job statuses
on the. Line there's also a lot more on the
line as, WELL i think when it comes to The steelers.
Quarterback this Was Mike tomlin asked about if he thought
that this could Be Aaron rodgers' last.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
GAME i don't know That i've taken time to ponder.
That i'm just committed to making sure that it's. Not
he's certainly been an awesome contributor to our, efforts and
not only from a talent perspective and an experienced, perspective
but just his, professionalism his relationship with the, game his
love for his, teammates and his willingness to help them
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grow and get better and gain better understanding each and
every day has been has been cool to be a part.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
OF i have not been the Biggest Aaron rodgers fan
over the last couple of, years BUT i think it
is a has been a rousing success for what he
has done in purg and it may end up being
on the outside looking, in it may end up being
the team drops their final two games and falls out
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of the playoff. Picture BUT i believe when you look
at what has happened With Aaron rodgers over the last
couple of, weeks in the last couple of, seasons specifically
the last couple of, seasons it's been a lot better
than it was than it was In New. York AND
i have these moments AND i don't Think Aaron rodgers
is ever going to be the quarterback that he. WAS
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i don't think he has been the quarterback that he
was five years. Ago but it doesn't mean that he
shouldn't come. Back AND i think that this run that they're,
on AND i think if they end up bowing Out,
aaron it actually may be an opportunity For Aaron rodgers
to not want to end his career that. WAY i
think the season has been. Great maybe you'll have perspective
away from the, game BUT i think a lost by
The steelers could actually Make Aaron rodgers want to come
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back next.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Year do you think he would be more likely to
leave if they were to make the, playoffs even if
it was a short.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Run, yes, OKAY i feel that there would be some
sort of accomplishment in doing, that BECAUSE i also think
that he came back for himself, sure and that he
wanted to, play and him getting back to the playoffs
would be enough to.
Speaker 11 (43:12):
Do.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
SO i don't Think pittsburgh's in a window where they're
going to go to the Super bowl within the next
couple of. Years, SURE i think that as time there
was good. ENOUGH i think that he's had good enough
moments and it's not a toxic building where you're going
to have tons and tons of sweeping. CHANGES i don't
Think Mike tomlin's getting fired at The steelers missed the
playoffs and just. DON'T i don't think that's going to.
Happen if that, happens then no Doubt Aaron rodgers is
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not coming back next. Year BUT i don't think that.
Happens AND i think that if they Lose tomlin, stays
Then rogers will have a reason to stay next.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Season, YEAH i just think big, PICTURE i think it's
exactly what you said. IS i do think like it's always,
easy right with revisionist history to say certain. Things but
if you had just said going into the, season you
know ten and seven win THE, afc nor like like
just say ten and seven win THE Afc. North you
would have said successful. Season you just would have Because Lamar, jackson, Obviously, Baltimore,
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Ravens Joe burrow will see what happens. Whatever but SO
I i do think there is something to. THAT i
genuinely feel more by the way we got the oh
that's Not. Jesus those Are tony The tiger frosted. Flakes
we got the frosted flakes bath In El. Paso, there
so my. APOLOGIES i thought they Were Jen.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Victory, Yes SO i actually kind of, THINK i don't.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
KNOW i don't See Aaron rodgers as being the type
of guy that if he feels like he has something
left in the. TANK i, MEAN i don't. Know this
whole marriage situation is. Weird we don't really know much about,
this you, know young.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Lady.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
WHATEVER i just bring it up BECAUSE i could see
him coming back either. WAY i do think if you
make the, playoffs you can leave on the high note
OF i still know What i'm. DOING i Help Mike
tomlin kind of you so to a, degree kind of you,
know you don't want to say rehab his, image but you,
KNOW i, mean whatever successful, SEASON i could see THAT
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i don't think losing this game necessarily definitively means that he's,
back BUT i would say overall it's probably a net
positive if they do make the.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Playoffs He's Aaron. Torres I'm Dan. Byer Jason stewart has
always had an interest In Aaron rodgers in the twenty
twenty five. CAMPAIGN i.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
Do i'm a big, fan AND i think that what
you laid, Out dan is the conventional. Thinking and if
there's anyone who is going to spite conventional, thinking it's.
Him so he probably hears what you said about, that
which makes, sense doesn't want to leave on a sour,
note and he would probably do it just to spite,
you and it would all be sad BECAUSE Dk metcalf
(45:45):
is completely responsible for the end of This steelers. Season
if he does not make that decision to do that
to that, fan then The steelers are probably resting guys
this week, maybe and now we're looking at possibly end
their season and The hall Of fame career Of Aaron.
Rodgers it's just, said.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Do you think that's WHAT Dk metcalf's then legacy would
be not running Down Buddha baker in a game In
arizona On Sunday night. Football oh, yeah oh, yeah it
would be ending the career Of Aaron rodgers because he
wasn't there to get his three catches for twenty four.
Yards that would be deserving if that was his. Legacy,
YES i think that there's no doubt THAT Dk metcalf
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would have been valuable against The Cleveland, browns especially when
you only score six. POINTS i think that this game
against The ravens is completely. Winnable. Now Lamar jackson was
back at. Practice it was practicing, today so that's at
least a better sign for The ravens and what his
availability is going to. Be you're right about the unconventional
thing That Aaron rodgers. Does but does going through and
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winning THE Afc north provide motivation or does none of
that then just? Matter if my point is conventional and he's,
Unconventional is it justs just deciding if he wants to
hang out With Mike tomlin for another six? MONTHS i,
mean could that come down to it?
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Essentially AND i think the other variable with, it AND
i mean to cut anybody, off but like is exactly
what you. SAID i don't think there's a lot of
internal pressure in that, building, right SO i think if
it Was, hey if it was basically The Green bay,
situation if it Was, hey just so you, know we're
taking a quarterback first. Round you can come, back you
can do whatever you. Want but it's, like is anyone
(47:27):
gonna Tell Mike tomlin you have to take a? Quarterback
is anyone else Coulda is anyone gonna tell him you
gotta sign a young?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Backup you gotta.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Know SO i don't think That Mike tomlin feels pressure
to make any sweeping changes regardless of whether they win or,
lose and so in, TURN i also don't think it
puts much pressure On Aaron rodgers if he does decide
that he wants to come, back winner.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Loses and the decision is solely On. Rogers now we
can say that it's on The, steelers but The steelers
have given every indication that they want him back next,
year and if a change was, made then THAT'S i
Guess steeler ownership saying that they don't Want rogers back next,
year because there's no Way rogers comes back next year
with a new coaching, staff and if they were to
have a new general, manager that's just not going to.
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HAPPEN i just don't see The steelers who have stuck
By Mike tomlin for so long in this era Where
i'm getting so increasingly frustrated over what have you done
for me? Lately And aaron laid it out earlier when
we're talking about these the. Odds it's drove me crazy
to see That Drake MAY'S mvp odds got better because
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he played well against The. JETS i think that's. Ridiculous
just a couple of weeks, ago The bills kept him
pretty much in check and what was one of the biggest.
Games it's not the biggest game at the time for
The patriots in this. Season so now if The patriot excuse,
me if The steelers were to go back on everything
that they have been for for, forever basically with The
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rooney family and how they've treated, coaches to respond to
these two games in The jason's, point then to respond
when you have a wide receiver who makes a boneheaded
call to swipe out a fan on the, sidelines he
gets a two game. Ban if that's then with all
of those, circumstances you are reasoning to get rid Of Mike,
tomlin because that's what's happened in the final two weeks
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that would be. Absurd SO i don't think you're gonna
see the last Of Aaron. Rodgers jason disagrees in terms
of the Unconventional Aaron rodgers and his, decision BUT i
think that he's got at least enough there to give
it a second thought and have a good enough time
with these. Guys, jason AND.
Speaker 9 (49:28):
I think you're alluding to like he also has gas
in the, tank AND i think That Aaron rodgers might
be the type that goes against your again conventional. Thing
Remember Tom brady when he came back for that last
year and it was. AWFUL i don't think that gets
enough credit for being how gross it, was how he
was just getting hit, around and he was going through a,
(49:48):
divorce and he looked like he had aged twenty. YEARS
i Think Aaron rodgers maybe looks at something like. THAT
i think he would be the guy that would walk
away a year, early then a year. Late and because
he has impacted winning as recently as a couple of weeks,
ago like he's playing very well and maybe you know
he probably does have gas in the. Tank he seems
like a guy that would walk away knowing he had
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that gas in the tank as opposed to everybody else
who's done the.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Opposite, Right, oh go, Ahead.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Aaron, NOW i was just gonna, say really, quickly are
you surprised how quiet it's, been BECAUSE i, think on
the one, hand you'd Say Mike, tomlin he keeps everybody in,
Check antonio blah blah. Blah BUT i mean you think
about when he was with The jets and correct me
If i'm. WRONG i don't Think Aaron rodgers does McAfee.
Anymore like it was like every week When Aaron rodgers
was with The, jets there was some, headline AND i
(50:38):
JUST i DON'T i don't feel like it's like one
of the ten, biggest like biggest storylines in THE nfl this,
Year drake mayon the, whatever The, Patriots Ben, Johnson Michael
parsons when he was out. There it's, LIKE i, Just
i'm JUST i am genuinely shocked at how quiet it
has been With Aaron rodgers And, PITTSBURGH i.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Would, say AND i would say this In rogers. Defense
rogers kept things pretty quiet In Green, bay even though
there were things rumbling at the end and maybe him telling, players,
yeah come get me Or i'm going to be available
at you, know the, offseason whatever the deal. Is but
The jets chaos Was jets. Chaos, sure Like rogers ruptures his,
achilles there's nothing he can really do the home possibly
(51:23):
come back and play if they have a. Playoff maybe
that was a bit, dramatic but that wasn't the chaos
that was in the. Building like The jets produced that
on their own with their ownership and and you know
at the time With sala being fired, early that was
none of His so in his defense there there wasn't
any of. That BUT i also Think Mike tomlin probably, said, hey,
man we don't want you to do, McAfee and To
(51:44):
jason's point About rogers being, unconventioned all these probably like cool,
man you know you matter IF i do it once
or or, whatever and then just went along with it
because of the respect that he has For Mike. Tomlin, sure,
no it's. Fair
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to ever take off the day for the Redly Quest Bowl?
Gotta be Ready's sick. I got word that Sam is
under the weather air quotes. I'm I'm not using air
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quotes on the radio. I'm not doing that. I will
say that maybe he pregamed too hard for this. IOWA
relya Quest Bowl which ended up in victory over Vanderbilt today,
as you heard Isaac glowing Kron and the update, A
lot of games going on will keep you updated, but
the game that we're talking about and it spreads to
a bigger picture. Just like Kevino and Rich, we love
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to include you guys in on the conversation eight seven
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six six three six'. Nine the REASON i give that
number out now and don't call because you don't even
know what we're going to talk. About but we love
audience participation because you, know, somewhere at some point in
your sporting, life you remembered an awful call that went
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against your. Team and an awful call is one that
will stick with you. Forever how DO i know this
because it seems to be one of the only talking
points leading up to tonight's game Between miami And Ohio,
state AND i am looking right now at an Article
Aaron torres From The Sporting news from just three days.
(02:30):
Ago sure in talking about The National championship game from
the two thousand and two. Season it happened in Early
january of two thousand and three in The Fiesta, bowl
and the title says for The Sporting news Was Glenn
sharp's pass interference The miami defensive back On Ohio state
wide receiver and Cornerback Chris. Gamble the quote the pass
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interference call was it the quote worst call of all? Time.
Woo so when talking about this game, tonight where players
who are playing in the game, tonight not only do
they have no recollection of, it many of them not.
Born say there may be one or, two maybe a
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handful of players that were born as this game was being,
Played but we're talking about, eighteen nineteen twenty year old.
Guys they don't even know anything about this game unless
they watched it on A dvd or founded on. YouTube
if you need a refresher on how that game didn't
end while some thought it did. End this Was Keith
(03:36):
jackson And Dan fouts ON abc on the call That
National Championship night.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Were reps up there as as a white out. Two
the ball goes into the end zone and that is
in you conflate intended for. Gamble now there is a
penalty flag.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Throne hold on hol the.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Phone everybody comes running down on the. Field if you
gotta get off because there's a penalty flag. THRONE i
think it's Against.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Miami and if it's thrown in the end, zone the
ball will be placed on the one yard.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Line first in Gold.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Glenn sharp trying to Cover Chris gampbell that he may
have arrived ten too. Soon Randy crystal pasn't, There.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah Glenn, sharp thirty one On chris gamble number.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Seven, oh that's a tough call. There what about this?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Angle bad?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Call that?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Call, Okay Dan fouts twenty three years, later it was
the right. Call you just got a bad. Replay so
the replay that you see sees two guys going up
for a football And gamble And sharp and what seems
like a jump all situation and pass interference was. Called
the contact on the play that actually rose to the
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level of pass interference came before those players were put on.
Camera it was not in the end zone in a
jump ball. Situation If Craig crensle had thrown the. Football
by the, way this is just me going off On
Dan fouts twenty three years. Later If Craig crenzel still
had the football in his hand when the play, happened
it would have been defensive. Holding what the referees were
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discussing was was it pass interference or was it defensive.
Holding it ended up rising to the level of pass
interference because the interference came when the ball was in the.
Air that is my story And i'm sticking to it
and the reason why Official Terry porter made that. Call
it may have been a late. Call it was a
call That miami jumped the gun and thought that they
had won a national, championship but a late flag came.
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In it is not the worst call of all, Time Sporting,
news and it is not bad Call Dan. Fouts, now
AS i look at it from that, way it is
amazing that twenty three years later we are still talking
about this. Play and that's where we. Start controversial calls in,
sports the calls that you remember to this day because
(05:59):
of how they affect the outcome of some of the
most important sporting events of our. Lifetime DO i dare
read the headline THAT i just? Found let's read? It?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes, Okay So Glenn, sharp who was the defensive, back
was later.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Charged with. Murder i'm just gonna say. It he, Was.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay i've been looking to see IF i can confirm
that he was ever convicted or, not BUT i cannot
find it anywhere on the, internet which is kind of.
Amazing the headline from Off Tackle empire in twenty, Twelve Glenn,
Sharp Glenn sharp charged with first degree murder and he
still committed past. Interference see that person that's fighting with
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evened Out, well not so much because fouts And Sporting
news feel a certain.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Way but everybody, complains And miami, complains and THE u,
complains and everybody complains about that. Call but it's a,
call whether whether you liked it or, not it still
is talked about to this. Day so now that brings
us to this point instead of talking about Is Ohio
state going to be able to match up With miami
offensive defensive lines which has been talked about and vice.
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Versa by the, way for The buckeyes And, hurricanes it's
not so much been that in Ken Ohio state rebound
from their loss To. Indiana it's been more about mentioning
this game and really where these two programs have gone
since that, point because that was kind of the end
of THE u part two and then the start of
the real rise For Ohio, state where they've been on
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an unbelievable heater for the past twenty, years starting with
that national championship. Win, Yeah so to the game really.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Quick CAN i just, say first of, ALL i have
been genuinely shocked how many people are trying to play
up that narrative of oh. Two that the reason that
the two programs went in different. Directions one was coached
By Jim, tressel the other was coached By Larry. Koker
it's really that. Simple that is why the two programs
went in two different. Directions, Whatever So i'm gonna give you.
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One the stakes were not nearly as. High BUT i
will tell you the most, memorable awful miss call.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
THAT i can.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Remember it was The Armando galarraga play that robbed him
of a perfect. Game, yes and it stands out because
one profet you, know may have been In Comerica park
that Day june, second twenty, ten But it stands out
because in the, moment you, like you, know pass interference
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is by definition a fifty to fifty judgment.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Play Hm Armando.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Galraga in the moment you knew it was, like oh
he the ump just missed. That Jim, joyce by the,
way was the. Ump we still know his name fifteen years.
Later he missed. It there's no, replay there's no way
to get it, right there's no flag to, throw there's
no challenge. This it was just a perfect game that
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should have been a perfect. Game that wasn't a perfect.
Game and you knew it in the.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Moment it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Wasn't you had to look at ten different replays and
maybe the need you, know maybe the foot, touch the. Bait, no, no,
no it was wrong in the, moment and he knew
it right.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Away let's hear that.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Moment round ball right, Side, cabrera we'll cut it.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Off colororaga.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Turs he's, Out he's, safe he is. Safe he is
safe at, first, babe are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Me why is he? Safey there you? Go he that
call robbed everybody of. Something it robbed like that call
right there made me realize that it Robbed the announcers
of the opportunity to call a perfect. Game when you're
looking back on your career thirty years, later what were
the Highlights i'll never forget WHEN i was there When
Armando galarraga threw a perfect game for The. Tigers now
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you can Say i'll never forget When Jim joyce messed
up the perfect game For Armando, galarraga but it doesn't
have the gravitas of actually having a perfect. Game Jason, stewart.
Speaker 9 (09:58):
Remembering, yesterday twenty four hours, ago you And momsey Bill
aniols were having a heated debate about whether or not
Pukuin akua's play On monday night was a, Catch And
i'm gonna reiterate my stance on. THIS i actually did
some umpiring In little league in high, school and my
whole thing was reward the great. Play so if there's
a if there's like a diving play at shortstop and
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he makes a throw that's a, banger you need to
have the awareness in the situation to reward the great.
Play nobody's gonna argue with you if you call him.
Out this was a thing With Jim, joyce, like you
need to have the awareness of these Moment this. SITUATION
i couldn't believe at that time that a veteran umpire
would on a banger not just give it to the
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defense for the situation for, Baseball and so that's kind
of my overall, thing like reward the, play reward the great,
play reward the great. Moment Jim joyce didn't have that
in that. MOMENT i love how.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The tigers and we look at it as, like what
a touching, Moment BUT i almost feel like they're, like
you know, What you're gonna go to home. Plate you're
gonna hand up the hand of the lineup. Card the next,
day you, Know joyce is crying at home plate and
feeling emotional about what went, On but it's also a
kind of, yeah we, Remember, yeah they actually everybody's gonna
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remember this for that long and then you know THEY
i don't, know he apologized for making the. Call people
try to get the call overturned and turned. Around that never.
Happened everybody saw the missed call and there was nothing
they could do about it because of his. Actions and
to your, Point, jason what is Worse Armando coloraga not
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having a perfect game because of that call or having
a perfect game because the guy was, safe, Right like, What,
like it is a hundred times worse of not having
the perfect. Game it's not even. Close you much rather
would have the perfect, game but, like you know, what
he was actually. Safe he'm, like well it was like
it is it. Is it's not even. Close it is
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so much worse to not have the perfect game because
of the, announcer because of the fans that were, there
that stayed for all the nine, innings all the memories
that they. Had that, is it is one hundred times
worse to not have the perfect game as opposed to
having it and having a blown. Call here's the other, thing.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
TOO i don't want to steal anybody, else's But i'm
guessing they're salmon.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Up you don't want to sam it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
UP i don't want to sam it. Up, no, no, No
But i'm sure you're gonna. Reference there's two or three
that immediately come to. MIND i won't say, him but big,
moments big, games, PLAYOFFS, nfc chit, whatever college, Football national.
Tips it Was june, second twenty. Ten so To dan's,
point if you call them safe and you're not, sure
like this DOESN'T i know baseball Purest, oh every game
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one hundred and sixty.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Two they all, count they don't all.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Count it Was june, Second it Wasn't october eleventh In
game four of THE. Lcs, okay, anyway that's my only.
Point that's a regular season, Game that's WHAT i.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Mean, yes this did the call With Ohio, state with
the Ficial Terry. PORTER i know his. NAME i Know
miami fans know his, name And i'm Sure Ohio state
fans know his. NAME i think the country Knows Jim, joyce,
yes AND i don't know if the country Knows Terry.
Porter but there are other officials that have made calls
that we. Remember Isaac, lohenkron do you have a nominee
(13:17):
in terms of calls controversial calls in? SPORTS i.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Do let's go back to THE Nfc championship game after
the twenty eighteen. Season The rams and The saints tied
at twenty one forty nine left in the fourth, Quarter
New orleans with a third down and ten at The
rams thirteen yard.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Line passes in, complete no flag For Tommy, Lee lewis
Mckil Roaby coleman delivered a hit and the two officials
talk to each. Other crowd's going crazy as there's no.
Flag that should have been a, penalty And John payton
is justifiably.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Upset and obviously it had a lot to do if
The rams going to The Super bowl and The Saint
it's not that.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Year it was so clear and, blatant and it was so.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
IMPACTFUL i think THE, nfl IF i can, remember overcorrected
because the next year pass interference could be challenged and
how was he an even bigger disaster IF i.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Remember it was such a disaster that In week two
The seahawks got a pass interference call in their benefit
against The steelers on a basically a jump. Ball in THE,
nfl there was like a fifty yard, penalty and THE
nfl is, like you know, What, yeah we're not gonna
do this, Anymore like it will change the role at
the end of the, year but we're not calling like
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get stopped after two weeks because of how absurd it.
Was it was so. Absurd WHEN i see those White ram,
helmets that's WHAT i think, Of, like that's the. PLAY
i don't think of their return TO LA i think,
of is It Tommy Lee, lewis the receiver for The
saints that they That Joe buck mentioned him like all
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of his his limbs are in the air after being
hit on the, play with the football still in somewhat
catchable you, know, Relevance and that's WHAT i remember of.
It but WHEN i see those white, HORNS i can't
help but not think of that play In New. Orleans
wasn't there wasn't there.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
A thing in our talk space. Here wasn't there like
a that's bs THE nfl just wants the NEW NFL
la team to be in The Super. Bowl wasn't that
a weird kind of theory that?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Week, yes AND i found that there was a theory
that because Of Bounty gait And Sean, payton that they
didn't want them in that that was the. Theory, now
the play calling leading up to that, play it was
not some Of Sean payton's finer, Moments like there were
opportunities where they could have played it, better done it
better with the, clock but they they. Didn't they had missed.
OPPORTUNITIES i think they tried to throw screens Like Michael
(15:51):
thomas and it ended up being dropped or it was
was in the ground or too low for him to.
Handle but it Wasn't it wasn't the finest. Moment but
in that situation when you have a guy appears to
be open and then just gets leveled before the ball
even gets. There by the, way it's the play THAT
i still go back to WHEN i hear THE nfl saying,
like do we need eight? Officials, no we just need better.
(16:13):
Officials that's what we. Need we just need better. Officials
we need full time. Officials we need guys who played the.
Game we need. Guys it's not an age is a
sort of, thing but they're relying on guys who have
a lot of years in The National Football. League you
need to develop younger officials and bring them along and
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move them along and have a new core of guys
because there's just not there's so much that goes on
and there's so much at. Stake that is definitely one
of the worst.
Speaker 10 (16:43):
Calls Chris, Purfett, yeah there's a lot of DIRECTIONS i
could go in This and since we're In, DETROIT i
could talk about the picked up flag in The Cowboys
lions playoff game that was because it feels like a
lot goes Against, detroit AND i could nerd out and
start talking about, soccer about The maridonna hand Of, god
the handball that, missed sure Between.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Argentina but Let's iowa samit some. More, Yeah, No.
Speaker 10 (17:03):
I'm gonna Go i'm gonna go back this because since
we're talking about THE nfl and we're talking about officials
here and we're talking about how, look how do you
get A by the, WAY.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I love how he Subtly iowa sammed this. Up did
you guys catch this trying not like it was trying to,
like so there's somebody that is probably tweeting in or
calling in the Like maradona hand of. Good it has
A wikipedia. Entry chris already just said. It So i'm
not gonna call.
Speaker 10 (17:31):
It, Okay i'm Going i'm gonna stop it at this
one with. This this was this Was Phil luckett not
getting a coin toss right On thanksgiving between The steelers
and The. Lions you can hear Him Jerome bettis, SAYING i,
SAID i said. Tales that's so.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Spoiler Its lions go on to win that game Over.
PITTSBURGH i felt bad until the revenge came Where Jerome
bettis got to win In detroit over The seahawks And
Super bowl forty because of some by the, way awful
officiating calls throughout that. GAME i could just Put Super
bowl forty as a topic, here BUT i will not do.
So but that's a great. Call i'll always remember That.
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Thanksgiving jerome bettis looking around with that look on his,
face like what what's going? On what's? Said?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Tails, yes first time ever people considered a video replay
on coin toss is going For, No i'm getting bad.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Joke bet, again my whole. Solution don't know what my
coin toss solution. Is so THE nfl is mucho. Dollars,
sure just put the helmet of one team on one
side and the helmet of the other team on the other,
side and don't ask what flip it up and whatever
team comes, up that's who gets the, choice. Right they
don't need to do heads or tails like it's pretty.
(18:41):
Simple it's and then you know what you. Do you
auction that coin off to be, like, oh guess WHAT
i have the coin From week fourteen when The dolphins
ended up playing The. Jets you could.
Speaker 10 (18:53):
Even make this part of the schedule announcement. Day you
have like a full minting that you show off shut
off every, game but the coins that are minted that
will be used in those.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
GAMES i think it's, very very easy for THE, nfl
but they choose not to listen to. Me, jason do
we have any feedback on the lines on who wants
to get in on controversial calls BEFORE i add? Another all,
right let's go to the line. First who do we? Got? Oh,
no you know, what let me, uh let's skip. That
i'll give. You i'll give you. Mine Rameil robinson nineteen
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eighty Nine National Championship Game college, Basketball michigan Against Seaton.
Hall michigan's down by. One Ramel robinson dribbles up the,
court dribbles in the middle of the, lane wasn't even
going to, shoot was looking to pass the, ball and
somehow a foul on the floor was called a reach
in giving him two free throws with three seconds. Left
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he makes. Both seat in the, hall gets off a
last second prayer from about twenty three feet bounce his
heart off the. Backboard michigan ends up winning The national.
Championship isaac Lohncron, okay hold on a, second you want
to hear. It let's hear. It, oh, Sure michigan's. Ball
they've got an opportunity here, now but win. It they've
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got a hurry five.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Seconds robinson, goes, wow foul call with three, seconds like.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
A foul Against Satan hall with three.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Seconds if there was a phantom. Foul, Uh Brent, Musburger Billy,
PACKER Cbs sports on the. Call if there ever was
a phantom, foul it was in The kingdome that day In.
Seattle one of the worst calls in college basketball.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
History, well and that goes to what we were saying
earlier With galarraga And Jim joyce is like no one
remembers the fifty to fifty call that doesn't get. Called
everybody remembers the ten ninety call that does get, called
or the zero one. Percent you know What i'm, Saying,
like you, know.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Somebody will, say, Well Romel robinson had to make those free. Throws,
well he shouldn't have had to shoot the free throws
that would have given. Him there's three seconds left in the,
game somebody's gonna have to throw up a pressure filled.
Shot he had two opportunities to keep them. Alive he
made them, both so they actually. Won he all he
had to do is make one of two and they're
in overtime like they're trailing by. One it was such
an awful call real.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
QUICK i know it's a cliche thing to, say BUT
i am of the belief everyone, says, like if it's
a foul in the first, minute it should be a
foul in the last. MINUTE i actually fundamentally disagree with.
THAT i, think, certainly if a foul is a non,
negotiable like especially in, basketball if the penalty is a non,
Negotiable but if it's like a fifty to fifty, CALL
i would rather just the dudes on the court figured it.
(21:34):
OUT i don't know if that makes.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
IT i Think jason's there with, you like on The
Jim joyce, call like they to his, point, like, yeah
if you if it's, close you're gonna ring them, up
like reward the. Play all, right who do we got
on the? Line, Jason Richard richard In? Seattle all, right you're, There, Richard.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Hey even Though i'm The, Seahawks, Richard mary is.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
Historic the Fail, Mary, yes.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
YES i agree with. You it's such an awful call
with replacement, REFS.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
I believe that game like that had to be the
reason they brought the refs. BACK i don't think of
the Film mary hadn't, happened that lockout would have continued
with the.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Officials, YEAH i. Agree it was so. Bad and as
A seahawks, FAN i remember WHERE i was watching that.
Game it was at my now wife then girlfriend's, apartment
And i'm, like they're going to actually give them the
touchdown because these idiots think that ty goes to the
offense even though there. Wasn't there wasn't anything close to a,
tie but there was a joint possession after the, fact
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but it was clearly an interception By Green bay and
the replacement. Refs by the way that replacement ref went,
on did radio, interviews may have written a, book took
full advantage of. It who do we, Got, Jason Josh, Fresno,
josh are you?
Speaker 13 (22:48):
There, Yep i'm.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Here controversial calls in? Sports what's your?
Speaker 13 (22:53):
NOMINEE i would say it's not one. CALL i would
say it would have to be a confluence of. Calls
they went in one direction versus the. Other and that's
got to be The Sacramento kings versus THE La.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Lakers oh my, God, Yes isaac Long kron is right
there with. You the look on his face when you
started to Say Sacramento. KINGS i was at that. GAME
i covered that. Game oh, yeah that that goes down in.
HISTORY i remember at the time how long it.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Lasted BUT i will say this AS i recall AND
i got to confirm. It at the same, time you
have The Sacramento kings free throw shooting in game seven
that was about fifty. Percent so that's why that conspiracy
theory was as exciting as it.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
IS i think just doesn't hold one. Well, also they
probably thought they weren't going to get any, calls so
they weren't prepping for their free throws in game, Seven
so that's probably why they missed all of that. Too shit,
here when did The Robert ory thing? Happen when that
was game four of that. Series here's one thing That i'll,
say because it all started out with The Miami Ohio,
state whether it be With Jim, joyce whether it be
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with hand Of, god whether it be With Phil luckett
and his coin, toss those are kind of in. Dispute
like The Rameil robinson play THAT i brought, up nobody
has seen a foul except that official The Miami Ohio state.
One maybe it's just me and The buckeye fans that
feel like there is still that there was past interference
(24:24):
but The Jim joyce one clear is freaking. DAY i
don't know if The rams fans would have an argument for, what,
uh you know what happened To Tommy Lee lewis of The,
saints who is At Nikkel Robie coleman on the on
the defensive hits on that, play but those pretty. INDEFENSIBLE
i don't know anybody who's, like you know, what that's
(24:45):
not past, interference like it was totally past.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
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this on the heels Of TONIGHT'S i don't know if
it's a, Rematch, aaron BUT i mean.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Not, you but society stop calling it happened twenty three years.
Ago it's they've Played, dan correct. ME i think they
played a home and home in the regular. Season yes they, Did, yes,
yep it Was it wasn't last year Old Missing georgia
is a rematch from two months.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Ago. Ohios they played At miami AND i think had
twelve yards passing the entire. Game it was they also
played like prior to that nineteen ninety nine and it
was right when THE u was about to take off
again like during that, run and they crushed him at
The meadowlands In New. Jersey Jason stewart's, Here Isaac Lown
crown's gonna have an update in the. Set chrisperfette hanging Out.
(25:52):
Jason who do we got on the line in our
Controversial calls And? Sports?
Speaker 9 (25:58):
Hey, Dan, Yes i've got three callers on the line
that are going to inform us of just through the
volume of, calls what we. Missed last last, segment we
missed on such a major one that three callers rushed
to their phones and Called Fox Sports. Radio we have
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a trip In. Vegas we Have danny In Southern california
And matt In, kansas each of these to tell us what. Happened,
okay so it's a toy. THREE i think that that's.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Perfect that's. PERFECT i think it sounds. Perfect, hey trip In?
Vegas what what did we? Miss? Uh?
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Two actually we missed The.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay stop, stop stop, Stop i'm, Sorry, trip you Can't,
iowa sammit like it's got one of the other you,
Know so it's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Three people called in to say the same, one Tuck.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Roll the general? One is that the? One it's fair
pretty big. One, GOSH i don't mean to Cut trip.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Off.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Trip are you still, There? Danny, YES i got.
Speaker 12 (27:07):
One, Yeah I'm i'm on THE. NFL i, mean who
knows That drew Blacks up takes over the next? Year
there is No Tom brady and And i'm still sore about.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
It, yeah you guys talking over who's? It it's? Tripping
who CAN i take the tripping? Drip i'm tripping right?
Now all? Right So, Trip so you're, saying Tuck, rull
are you on the side of?
Speaker 12 (27:34):
THAT i got another? ONE i got a better.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
One oh, Okay, hey all, right, Okay So danny Tuck, Rull,
yeah you're right about the blood. Cell you're right about The,
brady absolutely the one we. Missed what's your other? One?
Trip all?
Speaker 12 (27:50):
Right how ABOUT i don't know if y'all said this nineteen,
ninety wasn't?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It?
Speaker 12 (27:53):
Uh colorado got five downs Against.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Missouri yes they. Did, yes the fifth down Redimption big Eight. Conference,
absolutely five. Downs that's, great great, call that is WHAT
i that's that was worth. It he could Have Iowa
sam did for bringing that one. Back there was the
Rocket ismael clip Against colorado later on in the college football,
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season but that was a. Clip it was a block
in the. BACK i think that there's this Is. Aaron
you're not to this point, Yet, jason IS i Am
isaac maybe getting there. Soon when there's a call THAT
i felt like somebody would definitely bring up and no one,
has you're, like maybe maybe that was just too long.
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Ago Don denkinger nineteen eighty Five World. Series oh, oh
we had another call in, Fact james And tacoma doesn't
want to be sammed. Up go, Ahead, james what did
you want to?
Speaker 12 (28:55):
Say that's the wise mention In john Deak mister ninety,
six Calling George order safe the first.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Base let's hear the, Call let's hear how it. Happened
we'll swimper to the right. Side warrel races over the
cover that though doesn't get. Him warrell got in the
bang and an arguing Here.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Lance version amongst the other quartet.
Speaker 12 (29:20):
Looks like he's.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
OUT i don't think there's any doubt about.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It that was the, call by the, way that Was
Al michaels on the cause for.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
FOR ABC abcge With JOm. Palmer first of, All, chris
send the send that portion of this segment where we
had triple calls about one, thing send it to The
Marconi awards if he could before the end of the.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Show. Yeah, yeah he was not gonna defend. Myself okay
for The Iowas sam comment That jason, made Because jason,
said we have three, callers they all have the same,
thing so they all had The tuck. Rule that's where it.
Was that's what that's what we. Had so we had three,
callers SO i thought the third caller had The tuck.
Rule so WHEN i Mentioned Don, DENKINGER i did not.
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Realize SO i was not trying To Iowa sam it.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
Up, yeah it's a there was a lot to get
wrong in that whole. Thing BUT i do want to
say about The don dinkinshre thing because we're talking nineteen eighty.
Five Ron reagan was in office a long time. AGO
i remember it though really, well and that speaks to
how OLD i. Am it was the ninth. Inning it
was one out in the ninth inning when that when that,
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happened and The cardinals had a one run lead in
the ninth and if they, win they won The World.
Series The cardinals would have won in nineteen eighty five
If Don denkinsher makes the right. Call there was no.
Replay in, FACT i was surprised That Aaron torres brought
up his example in twenty. Ten there wasn't a. Replay
So baseball's real slow to this.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Stuff i'm Gonna i'm gonna go To isaac for an,
update BUT i also Want isaac's, thoughts quick thoughts on.
This do you think because of how eighty six finished
With buckner that, eight that this call in eighty five
is completely looked over because we have. Them it's it's
not a call in The Mets Red, sox but it
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is the. Play and so a year after what would
have been an atrocious call in a, travesty that we
then instead talk about The Red sox and the curse and.
Everything i'm bringing it up BECAUSE i obviously think that
it did that it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Did that's a great. Question there's a couple of factors
that play into. It the first IS i suppose that
happened in A game six and not in A game
seven as big as it was the next. Night not
only did The royals Win game seven they wanted by
a final score of eleven to, Nothing SO i think
that that dissipated that a little. Bit but absolutely what
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happened the following year was so mega iconic because of
the whole circumstances of The mets comeback and the air
and the fact that they did have to come from
behind again to win The World series two days later
In game. Seven but all, that as dramatic as it
was on his own on its, own was magnified by
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the two major market, franchises The mets and The Red,
sox one of the legacy franchises in, sports The Red
sox having a chance to bust what was that at that,
point a sixty eight year. Curse all those factors magnified
it to be much bigger than when it happened the year,
before when you had a legacy franchise on The, cardinals
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but relatively speaking to less major market cities In Kansas
city And Saint.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Louis it's funny we've had great college football national championship,
Games AND i still think that that one is remembered
for whatever, reason whether it be the, call whether it
be because it was the you at that, time because
it Was miami's winning, streak. Whatever but you, know some
of The Alabama Georgia National championship, games like you know
the you know the game winner To Hunter, renfro, LIKE
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i think those sometimes get lost in the shuffle a little,
bit and this one is still remembered twenty three years.
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App i'm, SORRY i love The SUNBALL i, do sue,
me do whatever you. WANT i absolutely love it and
it's been a. Dandy not Only Aeron torres do have
a great game on This New Year's eve n Al.
Paso the field looks, magnificent full end zones. Painted none
of this border grass stuff that The Rose bull has
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been doing for like the last decade and a. Half
quit with that. Crap just fill the whole end. Zone
fill it all with paint like the gold Of Arizona
state or the blue Of duke And Arizona states wearing
their's sparky. Helmets it's just a great looking. GAME i
love The sunball Aeron. Torres there's nothing you can do about,
it CAN i?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Say, also this is the dichotomy of the non Playoff
bowl game in twenty twenty. Five they just Showed steve
Sark keys And isaac just gave the. Score texas up
twenty four to twenty Against michigan going into the fourth.
Quarter biff The michigan interm ooj, yeah, yes as he,
said he's gonna go smoke himself to death with cigars
here at the end of this, Game Steve sarkijan looked
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like he was gonna vomit on the, sideline like if
he just, knows IF i lose this, game it's eight
months of crap from my fan base UNTIL i. THINK
i don't know if they open With Ohio state next,
year BUT i know they Play Ohio state early in the.
Season it's just eight months of crap IF i lose this.
Game he looked sick to his. Stomach texas up twenty
four to. Twenty so the thrill of victory in the agony,
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DEFEAT i guess still exists in The Citrus Cheese Its.
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New Year's. Eve we Say Happy New year to all of.
You if you're listening around the world and it's already
The new, Year Happy New. Year i've got a date
with THE tv. Tonight my wife and son will be
there with me Watching Ohio state taking On. Miami Aaron,
TORRES i assume your plans will include some college oops
and some buck guys And hurricanes as. Well is that?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
TRUE i think most of the college oops will be
basically done by the time we're.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Off airy they could have just went with it and
so all, yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
He's pulling up some, tape you, know grinding out lipscomb
tape and going into the new. Year and then ALSO
i will say, Genuinely i'm excited For Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
MIAMI i think it's gonna be a great.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Game, no it is not a rematch from the two
thousand and Two they just happen to play in the.
Postseason BUT i am very excited for the. Game and,
Yes i'll put college hoops on a SECOND tv just for.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You Dem Jason, stewart will you be partying like it's
two thousand and? Two what are your plans this?
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Day, yeah the partying days are. Over the majority of
my household is wrapped up in The Stranger things, phenomenon
and The Stranger things series finale airs at five Pm,
pacific SO i will be on that. Train and do
you know the ball dropping thing that happens this time of?
Year Dick clark started, it and then seventy years Later
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Ryan seacrest started doing. It, Well dodger fans AND i
have picked up our own. Tradition it started a year
ago tonight, actually and it goes something like. This we
watched the ball drop, Ourselves. Chris we watch our own
ball drop.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
Heating up gives sets under, dispot but The japson Can
hernandez get to the back before the football he does
on a root team, Play Aaron jigs just flubs it
in center field and The dodgers catch a huge break.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Right, there and a.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
TRADITION i watch it On TikTok at least six, Times
Aaron judge dropping the ball his only heir of the.
Year game five of The World, series a ball drop
allows The dodgers to score five runs the less's. History
so here In Los angeles our own ball dropping all
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day Until Ryan seacrest officially does it in six.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Hours here there are moments in sports where there have
been other drops that would be. APROPOS i don't know
if they dropped the ball seven times In philadelphia For
nelson agelor but that could have also been a tradition
that was. Started how did we not think of that
for a?
Speaker 9 (37:27):
Segment? NOW i feel the best ball Dropping Mark andrews
would have been topping on the LAST.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I don't think of the Ravens Lee evans had an
opportunity to beat The patriots in AN afc championship, game
couldn't reel it? In that could be.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
One it's not quite the ball, drop but remember how
the National championship game in college basketball ended a manual
sharp pump faked lost the ball and couldn't touch it
otherwise it would be a, turnover and the clock ran.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Out that was how the season. Ended that's sort of
a ball. Drop i'll tell you that that ending has
gotten lost in our year in. Reviews and this was
a final four with we had all number one.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Seeds we had All it was funny because we were
on a few weeks ago in the i think in
the earlier time, slot and we were talking about most
memorable moments of twenty twenty five AND i went With Shador,
sanders you, know you, know talk about drop dropping the.
Draft but the semi, FINAL i Think duke was up
twelve with six minutes to go or something like. That mm,
(38:31):
hmm was still one of the craziest results. Ever houston
was up reasonably big late in the, game and they
lost in that. Manner but the semi, final if you
remember it was it was pre you, know set In
Stone Cooper flag is gonna play for a national championship
and it's gonna be this huge, thing and it. Was
AND i was also sitting right behind The houston fan,
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section AND i just vividly remember more the semi final
of just when the butt when everything goes, five like
hats are being thrown in the, air and it was
just this unbelievable celebration only for two nights. Later LIKE i,
Said Emmanuel sharp pump, fakes loses the, ball can't touch,
it and that's how the game.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Ends So chris brought up when we did we did controversial.
Calls you brought up The Lions cowboys wild card game
and the flag that was lifted Against dallas on the pass, interference, right, yeah,
Yeah and so that playoff run by the, way And
i'll always remember it because that call went against The.
Lions then the next week the Des bryant catch went
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against The. Cowboys, yeah went against The. Cowboys then the next,
week The packers had a lead against The, seahawks only
to Have seattle come back in the final three minutes
and then end up winning it in. Overtime and Then
seattle lost The Super bowl Because Russell wilson threw an
interception at the goal On, now they're not all, calls
but they were all enormous significant turns for the game
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where different outcomes could have happened in that playoff. RUN
i only bring that up because of what And torres talked.
About houston blows a lead Against. Florida duke blew a
lead Against. Houston Texas tech blew a lead Against florida
in their regional final game The Arkansaw Texas tech game
prior in The sweet sixteen THAT i cannot stop talking
about because of the survivor. Pools they blew a lead
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in that. One like there was just it was each
round there was something that forget.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Happened, yukon the two time defending, champions absolutely Had florida
on the ropes in the round of thirty. Two it
was like disasters here For, yukon and they were another
ONE i think with like six minutes to go they
were up six or something.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Like, that and it. Was it was a crazy Tournament.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Florida basically every game had a huge, comeback Including Texas, tech,
who of course before that Beat arkansas on the round
OF Us sweet.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Sears good, memories fun. Time tournament's gonna be just around
the corner before you know. It but what is just
around the? Corner we gave team to The National Football league.
Season Aaron rodgers and The Pittsburgh steelers are home to
The Baltimore ravens as they play for THE Afc North,
crown as they play for the fourth seed in the.
Playoffs in THE afc playoff, picture and they play to
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not go. Home there also could be some job statuses
on the. Line there's also a lot more on the
line as, WELL i think when it comes to The steelers.
Quarterback this Was Mike tomlin asked about if he thought
that this could Be Aaron rodgers' last.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
GAME i don't know That i've taken time to ponder.
That i'm just committed to making sure that it's. Not
he's certainly been an awesome contributor to our, efforts and
not only from a talent perspective and an experienced, perspective
but just his, professionalism his relationship with the, game his
love for his, teammates and his willingness to help them
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grow and get better and gain better understanding each and
every day has been has been cool to be a part.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
OF i have not been the Biggest Aaron rodgers fan
over the last couple of, years BUT i think it
is a has been a rousing success for what he
has done in purg and it may end up being
on the outside looking, in it may end up being
the team drops their final two games and falls out
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of the playoff. Picture BUT i believe when you look
at what has happened With Aaron rodgers over the last
couple of, weeks in the last couple of, seasons specifically
the last couple of, seasons it's been a lot better
than it was than it was In New. York AND
i have these moments AND i don't Think Aaron rodgers
is ever going to be the quarterback that he. WAS
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i don't think he has been the quarterback that he
was five years. Ago but it doesn't mean that he
shouldn't come. Back AND i think that this run that they're,
on AND i think if they end up bowing Out,
aaron it actually may be an opportunity For Aaron rodgers
to not want to end his career that. WAY i
think the season has been. Great maybe you'll have perspective
away from the, game BUT i think a lost by
The steelers could actually Make Aaron rodgers want to come
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back next.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Year do you think he would be more likely to
leave if they were to make the, playoffs even if
it was a short.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Run, yes, OKAY i feel that there would be some
sort of accomplishment in doing, that BECAUSE i also think
that he came back for himself, sure and that he
wanted to, play and him getting back to the playoffs
would be enough to.
Speaker 11 (43:12):
Do.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
SO i don't Think pittsburgh's in a window where they're
going to go to the Super bowl within the next
couple of. Years, SURE i think that as time there
was good. ENOUGH i think that he's had good enough
moments and it's not a toxic building where you're going
to have tons and tons of sweeping. CHANGES i don't
Think Mike tomlin's getting fired at The steelers missed the
playoffs and just. DON'T i don't think that's going to.
Happen if that, happens then no Doubt Aaron rodgers is
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not coming back next. Year BUT i don't think that.
Happens AND i think that if they Lose tomlin, stays
Then rogers will have a reason to stay next.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Season, YEAH i just think big, PICTURE i think it's
exactly what you said. IS i do think like it's always,
easy right with revisionist history to say certain. Things but
if you had just said going into the, season you
know ten and seven win THE, afc nor like like
just say ten and seven win THE Afc. North you
would have said successful. Season you just would have Because Lamar, jackson, Obviously, Baltimore,
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Ravens Joe burrow will see what happens. Whatever but SO
I i do think there is something to. THAT i
genuinely feel more by the way we got the oh
that's Not. Jesus those Are tony The tiger frosted. Flakes
we got the frosted flakes bath In El. Paso, there
so my. APOLOGIES i thought they Were Jen.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Victory, Yes SO i actually kind of, THINK i don't.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
KNOW i don't See Aaron rodgers as being the type
of guy that if he feels like he has something
left in the. TANK i, MEAN i don't. Know this
whole marriage situation is. Weird we don't really know much about,
this you, know young.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Lady.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
WHATEVER i just bring it up BECAUSE i could see
him coming back either. WAY i do think if you
make the, playoffs you can leave on the high note
OF i still know What i'm. DOING i Help Mike
tomlin kind of you so to a, degree kind of you,
know you don't want to say rehab his, image but you,
KNOW i, mean whatever successful, SEASON i could see THAT
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i don't think losing this game necessarily definitively means that he's,
back BUT i would say overall it's probably a net
positive if they do make the.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Playoffs He's Aaron. Torres I'm Dan. Byer Jason stewart has
always had an interest In Aaron rodgers in the twenty
twenty five. CAMPAIGN i.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
Do i'm a big, fan AND i think that what
you laid, Out dan is the conventional. Thinking and if
there's anyone who is going to spite conventional, thinking it's.
Him so he probably hears what you said about, that
which makes, sense doesn't want to leave on a sour,
note and he would probably do it just to spite,
you and it would all be sad BECAUSE Dk metcalf
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is completely responsible for the end of This steelers. Season
if he does not make that decision to do that
to that, fan then The steelers are probably resting guys
this week, maybe and now we're looking at possibly end
their season and The hall Of fame career Of Aaron.
Rodgers it's just, said.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Do you think that's WHAT Dk metcalf's then legacy would
be not running Down Buddha baker in a game In
arizona On Sunday night. Football oh, yeah oh, yeah it
would be ending the career Of Aaron rodgers because he
wasn't there to get his three catches for twenty four.
Yards that would be deserving if that was his. Legacy,
YES i think that there's no doubt THAT Dk metcalf
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would have been valuable against The Cleveland, browns especially when
you only score six. POINTS i think that this game
against The ravens is completely. Winnable. Now Lamar jackson was
back at. Practice it was practicing, today so that's at
least a better sign for The ravens and what his
availability is going to. Be you're right about the unconventional
thing That Aaron rodgers. Does but does going through and
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winning THE Afc north provide motivation or does none of
that then just? Matter if my point is conventional and he's,
Unconventional is it justs just deciding if he wants to
hang out With Mike tomlin for another six? MONTHS i,
mean could that come down to it?
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Essentially AND i think the other variable with, it AND
i mean to cut anybody, off but like is exactly
what you. SAID i don't think there's a lot of
internal pressure in that, building, right SO i think if
it Was, hey if it was basically The Green bay,
situation if it Was, hey just so you, know we're
taking a quarterback first. Round you can come, back you
can do whatever you. Want but it's, like is anyone
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gonna Tell Mike tomlin you have to take a? Quarterback
is anyone else Coulda is anyone gonna tell him you
gotta sign a young?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Backup you gotta.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Know SO i don't think That Mike tomlin feels pressure
to make any sweeping changes regardless of whether they win or,
lose and so in, TURN i also don't think it
puts much pressure On Aaron rodgers if he does decide
that he wants to come, back winner.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Loses and the decision is solely On. Rogers now we
can say that it's on The, steelers but The steelers
have given every indication that they want him back next,
year and if a change was, made then THAT'S i
Guess steeler ownership saying that they don't Want rogers back next,
year because there's no Way rogers comes back next year
with a new coaching, staff and if they were to
have a new general, manager that's just not going to.
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HAPPEN i just don't see The steelers who have stuck
By Mike tomlin for so long in this era Where
i'm getting so increasingly frustrated over what have you done
for me? Lately And aaron laid it out earlier when
we're talking about these the. Odds it's drove me crazy
to see That Drake MAY'S mvp odds got better because
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he played well against The. JETS i think that's. Ridiculous
just a couple of weeks, ago The bills kept him
pretty much in check and what was one of the biggest.
Games it's not the biggest game at the time for
The patriots in this. Season so now if The patriot excuse,
me if The steelers were to go back on everything
that they have been for for, forever basically with The
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rooney family and how they've treated, coaches to respond to
these two games in The jason's, point then to respond
when you have a wide receiver who makes a boneheaded
call to swipe out a fan on the, sidelines he
gets a two game. Ban if that's then with all
of those, circumstances you are reasoning to get rid Of Mike,
tomlin because that's what's happened in the final two weeks
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that would be. Absurd SO i don't think you're gonna
see the last Of Aaron. Rodgers jason disagrees in terms
of the Unconventional Aaron rodgers and his, decision BUT i
think that he's got at least enough there to give
it a second thought and have a good enough time
with these. Guys, jason AND.
Speaker 9 (49:28):
I think you're alluding to like he also has gas
in the, tank AND i think That Aaron rodgers might
be the type that goes against your again conventional. Thing
Remember Tom brady when he came back for that last
year and it was. AWFUL i don't think that gets
enough credit for being how gross it, was how he
was just getting hit, around and he was going through a,
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divorce and he looked like he had aged twenty. YEARS
i Think Aaron rodgers maybe looks at something like. THAT
i think he would be the guy that would walk
away a year, early then a year. Late and because
he has impacted winning as recently as a couple of weeks,
ago like he's playing very well and maybe you know
he probably does have gas in the. Tank he seems
like a guy that would walk away knowing he had
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that gas in the tank as opposed to everybody else
who's done the.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Opposite, Right, oh go, Ahead.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Aaron, NOW i was just gonna, say really, quickly are
you surprised how quiet it's, been BECAUSE i, think on
the one, hand you'd Say Mike, tomlin he keeps everybody in,
Check antonio blah blah. Blah BUT i mean you think
about when he was with The jets and correct me
If i'm. WRONG i don't Think Aaron rodgers does McAfee.
Anymore like it was like every week When Aaron rodgers
was with The, jets there was some, headline AND i
(50:38):
JUST i DON'T i don't feel like it's like one
of the ten, biggest like biggest storylines in THE nfl this,
Year drake mayon the, whatever The, Patriots Ben, Johnson Michael
parsons when he was out. There it's, LIKE i, Just
i'm JUST i am genuinely shocked at how quiet it
has been With Aaron rodgers And, PITTSBURGH i.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Would, say AND i would say this In rogers. Defense
rogers kept things pretty quiet In Green, bay even though
there were things rumbling at the end and maybe him telling, players,
yeah come get me Or i'm going to be available
at you, know the, offseason whatever the deal. Is but
The jets chaos Was jets. Chaos, sure Like rogers ruptures his,
achilles there's nothing he can really do the home possibly
(51:23):
come back and play if they have a. Playoff maybe
that was a bit, dramatic but that wasn't the chaos
that was in the. Building like The jets produced that
on their own with their ownership and and you know
at the time With sala being fired, early that was
none of His so in his defense there there wasn't
any of. That BUT i also Think Mike tomlin probably, said, hey,
man we don't want you to do, McAfee and To
(51:44):
jason's point About rogers being, unconventioned all these probably like cool,
man you know you matter IF i do it once
or or, whatever and then just went along with it
because of the respect that he has For Mike. Tomlin, sure,
no it's. Fair
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