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C&R figure out what's next for Mike McDaniel! The crew has some fun with their annual 6 Game Wild Card Parlay! You can get in on some prize action as well. OKC & San Antonio get some love! On anniversary of The Apprentice debut, the crew & callers have fun remembering greatest Reality TV show of all-time! Plus, Wemby sparks a sports flex conversation & they get hyped for Miami/Ole Miss! 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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If you're a football fan like I am, I shouldn't
have wore sweatpants today because I'm a little too excited
about all this football. I'm just saying, I mean, someone's
putting a tingle. You got your wildcard football dingle, you
got oh missing in Miami, and then tomorrow we get
to see your dude Mendoza. Oh yeah, let's give you
anitos and let's not you know, we'll forget about Oregon.
And then of course you've got six wildcard games. This

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(01:07):
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live chat be popping. So it is Thursday, like I said, Rich,
and what do we do every Thursday? We throw it
back old school when fifty hits. Let's just say, we're
going to discuss some reality shows in between all the football,
So start thinking to some of your favorites. All right,

(01:27):
so let's let's start where we obviously need to start
because we're gonna get to your NFL wildcard picks on
a second. But oh man, no longer mister Miami Vice
Mike McDaniel out to quote Vince McMahon, you're fuck I
love so, I mean, I don't love that for Mike McDaniel.
I'm just saying, yeah, I do pretty good. Vince, right,

(01:52):
you are five f And it brings up a good question.
You heard I in his update the consummate professional Isaac Lohancron,
he dropped that the lines have already reached down And
you know what, what a great idea because when they
lost Ben Johnson you could tell I was Sam. I'll
give you credit because I'm not one that needs the

(02:12):
credit for myself. You were the first to point out
in the beginning of the year that they were missing
a little something in Detroit without Ben Johnson, like something
wasn't right offensively, thank you the proprietary spice. Yeah, and
you know Mike McDaniel could provide that spice. And here's
my thought. My thought is, as much as I love
Mike McDaniel, I'm a Niners fan, right so to me,

(02:34):
guys like him and Robert sala I wish they never left.
Salah came back and I'm like, yes, But do you
think there's guys that I know you want to get
a head coaching job. I get it right, who wouldn't
want that? But some people are such a great offensive
or defensive mind that I almost want you to be like, no, no, no,

(02:54):
specialize in that. Mike McDaniel could be an offensive coordinator
for any team. Would be welcoming that guy. But does
he reek of head coach to you? I don't know.
That's the thing. I don't know. I'm not you know,
I'm a fan like you guys are, But I love
Mike McDaniel, when you coached four years and you had
some success, do you want to make that step back?

(03:16):
Is it viewed as a step back. It shouldn't be
viewed as a step back if you're not a great
at that not everyone's John Harbaugh. That's gonna have seven
teams call you the next day. I think a guy
like McDaniel is gonna get maybe some interviews, but he
will be an offensive coordinator again before he's a head
coach again. That's my prediction at least. But you got
to ask yourself, Cavino, is there any shame in saying, Yo,

(03:40):
I'm a really amazing play caller? What he was doing
with the Niners offense or Kyle Shanahan. I do wonder
that if he did have someone other than t how
does Trump say his name to a Taglia? If you
had someone other than Tua to a gag O that guy? Yeah,
if you had someone other than Tua, you think maybe

(04:01):
Mike McDaniel could have made that system work a little more.
I feel like it answers, yet I feel like it
was the personnel, not the schemes. That's why I wonder
if it it would have been different if he's the off.
The question if he's the O C Danny g for
Detroit and he's there, you know, working with Campbell and
he's got Goff and Jamier Gibbs and you know Amaras

(04:21):
Saint Brown, you don't think Mike McDaniels would flourish. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
When you're the head coach, you're kind of like the CEO,
so all of the team is your responsibility. Can't just
put it on the quarterback. I understand what you're saying.
You have a much better chance of keeping your job
for a long time if you have a franchise QB.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
You know what's cool about the Mike McDaniel thing, though,
is you know he's still forty two years old, so
he can go back to be an offensive coordinator what
he's great at, and become a head coach again if
that's what he chooses to do in the future. My
other biggest observation about Mike McDaniel. You ever see those
pictures of presidents before an after they were the president,
and they go from like lively to like look like

(05:04):
we've seen that of your coach Shanahan. Like usually head coaching,
they always say the manager of the Yankees looks like
hell after a few years. Usually US presidents look like crap.
Mike McDaniel the reverse. Did you see the first day
and last day on the job, he went from like
a nerd to like look like a coche owner in Miami.
He got a glow up, he got the glow up,

(05:24):
the American idol glow up.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
We did we did halfway through the season when they're
it was like you guys, remember it wasn't it. It
wasn't even halfway through the season when there were all
the rumors flying about him being fired. Then and we
played Sam played several of the clips where he just
sounded very strange.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, you know, talking to them. Yeah, And Danny, I'll
be the first time met As much as I love
Mike McDaniel, I said, his goofy, quirky vibe works when
you're winning. When you're losing, it's irritating to a fan,
like what is this guy talking about when he's quirky
and funny and you're winning again? Very different. Well, let's

(06:02):
go over the numbers and let's post this question, all right,
Fox Sports Radio Nation. The question is, well, what's next
for him? You heard Rich not a head coaching job.
So then what's next? What do you think? What team?
Any prediction os you want to share? He was thirty
five and thirty three after four years, so he had
a winning record, back to back winning seasons in twenty two,
twenty three, seven and ten this year, two years in

(06:25):
a row, no playoffs. And that's really what I put
the nail in the McDaniel head coaching coffin. And yeah,
and I'm sure it's going to work out for him.
Rich I went to chat GPT. They immediately brought up
the Lions. So I love how you asked chat GPT. Well,
you know what, it's not a tool that I care about,

(06:46):
but I see no, but I'm seeing how younger people
use it almost like the inside school. I am your
fortune teller. They use it as not only a confidant
and therapist, but almost as a fortune teacher. Do you
think Adam Schefter was in a way moo and it
secretly was listening to him? Dude, I'm telling you. Look,
wonderfour says the Lions already reached out. Lion's definitely a

(07:07):
possibility as far as offensive coach, as far as head coaching.
Kind of obvious, but Chad gibtsaying Cardinals, Giants, Browns, Raiders, Titans, Falcons, Ravens.
McDaniel will likely be in the conversation for some of
those vacancies once interviews begin. Hey, Danny, it's a great

(07:28):
offensive reputation. Are you in your mind as a Raiders
fan narrowed down who you want? I know Giants fans
are talking about Horba? Are you guys in that conversation?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
You think it's funny because over the past twenty four hours,
Derek Carr has made some noise on social media.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's interesting because I thought he's leaning more broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, no, not as head coach. He kind of just
threw They talked about on he and his brother's podcast,
Clint Kubiak, who was his OC in New Orleans Wow
before he moved on to his current team, and Kubiak
as you know, doing big things in Seattle, and that
seems like it would be a great fit for the
Raiders because they need a young offensive mind.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I'm I think, uh, the same way we get
excited about the draft and all, like Mendoza, where he's
gonna where he's gonna go, Probably the Raiders. When we
start speculating where players are going to go where we
start speculating about, you know, where a lot of these
free agents baseball are going to go? Said some pretty
interesting coaching carousel is equally interesting to me because it's
like where all these guys gonna end up? What does
Mendoza get a lot of credit for it? You know,

(08:29):
besides being likable is the fact that his football IQ
is through the roof. Right. You don't think him and
McDaniel wood vibe in that way. I think they totally would.
Mike McDaniel as if you've seen any like little quick
docu pieces on him. Ye, Savant, he went through some
substance issues, right, and then he cleaned himself up. But

(08:49):
he's always been like a really quirky, brilliant type of guy,
major football brain.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know what I would like as a fan, though,
a coach who is ascending, not a coach who seems
maybe he's slipping back in the other direction. Pete Carroll
he slipped backwards his last few seasons in Seattle. And
it's funny we were talking yesterday about how he and
his son refused to play the rookies in Vegas. That
was kind of his emo in Seattle. The last couple

(09:15):
of years too, he had a horrid line. There wasn't
playing some of the rookies. The fans were getting frustrated,
and then that's what happened in Vegas. So I just
feel like, I guess the word is retread. I want
a guy that's like the next like you know, John Madden.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Is that possible? I you know, I might take a
step back though.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
For what do you hit one in twenty coaches? Maybe
when it's a young guy that's unproven or was just
an OC or a DC.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
You know, it's interesting, It's I'm always intrigued what goes
into this process. Danny g Like, if you're the front
office right when you're doing these interviews with these candidates,
if you're Tom Brady and you know Davis and you're
sitting down with candidates, what level you picking their brain
versus looking at their body of work? Like I would be.

(10:04):
I would love to be a fly on the wall
at some of these meetings where you know, I guess
i'd imagine that. Imagine you know, your whole Raiders front
office just sitting down with like five different guys and
to be in the room where it happens. As they said,
and had room where it happened.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, because Rich, how much of the conversation is about
x'es and o's and schemes and personnel, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Like, how do you split that pie up versus like
do I like you exactly? Exactly? Like I think? Do
I think you could command a fifty three man room?
You know, like it's interesting to me And to quote
former President Barack Obama A lot of times, a lot
of times you get in these rooms and you're assuming,
like everyone's so brilliant. Remember he talked about this, but

(10:47):
we've we've quote quoted Trump. Let me quote Obama. You
remember he talked about when he was ascending to the presidency,
he would find himself in rooms with really powerful men
and women, and he's like, you quickly realize they ain't
all that like you think. You think the process is
way more complicated because you're just a fan. And not

(11:08):
to not him, because he's a great guy. But I
remember chopping it up a bunch with Steve Phillips, MLB,
former GM of the Mets. We would see him all
the time in the kitchen at serious exam and we
became pals, right, And I remember Steve Phillips and I
talking about baseball all the time, and I would turn
to Commedo and go like that was Steve Phillips. I
thought that was Leslie Nielsen. I remember saying to Cos.

(11:30):
I remember saying, yeah, he's a really cool dude. He
was super But I remember thinking he's just a regular
guy that was making decisions as a GM, like is
he Like he's just a guy, and it goes my hero.
He's on an erary. That's the truth. He's just another
another person. I feel like I got the thumbs up
from Loan Crown on that one. It's it's wild beauing.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Are so true and people out there would not believe it.
Like we've all been around people who have been longtime
pro sports players, NFL, NBA players, coaches at the highest level,
and you expect there to be some unlocked mystical dimension
of insight that we will never achieve.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
But actually I'm absolutely right because everybody's just trying to
figure it out at every truth in life, and so
many people are just faking the funk. Yeah, you know,
not to call anyone out because I don't want to
be a d but Covino and I've done random TV
shows and different things. Let's you say we recorded something
once with an eighties TV star and it was it

(12:34):
was a bit we did and it was really honestly
simple liners like Cavino had three lines, maybe I have
three lines and this guy had a couple of lines.
It was just a quick little promo thing. I looked
at Covino, I'm like, this guy was like an eighty superstar.
He is brain dead yea, And I was I couldn't
do like the simple thing, I tell you, and I
have zero acting chops and we're looking at this guy

(12:56):
who was a TV star, like is this guy for real?
Twenty And I remember being like, Ko, we put people
on a pedestal. That's why I would love to see
and I think we do get a pretty cool glimpse
sometimes inside the draft room Cavino at the NFL draft
whor you see. I love the clips where it's like,
you know certain sometimes like coaches and personals, kids will
drift this guy and sometimes the kid's right and the

(13:18):
dad's wrong, and he meanwhile the GM of a team.
So uh, it is interesting to see where Mike McDaniel
lands my prediction coordinator or coach head coach. Yeah, my
prediction is a safe one, not because I want to
be safe, but I truly believe a team like Detroit
or someone will say, you know, Mike McDaniel will be
a head coach maybe again someday. But the next move

(13:39):
for Mike McDaniel to me is obviously a team that's
just missing. As Sam said that that little extra Adobo,
that little extra lowry, is that little seasoning on top
that Mike McDaniel could bring it into d Yeah, he
could take a good offense and take it next level.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
The other issue is you really really need your head
coach and your GM to be on the same page
and the owner for that matter. We've seen what happens
with teams where there's a division between those those two
guys or three guys.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Did you hear speculation two that? And I don't blame him,
but a guy like John Harbaugh is pretty much saying
he's waiting to see all because there might be this
speculation that if the Packers lose, Matt Lafleur could be
on a hot seat. If the Bills lose in the round,
in the first round against the Jags, maybe McDermott's time

(14:30):
has done so Harbaugh's in the position to sit back
and say, you know what, I'll make a decision when
I'm ready. And when he does make a decision, he's
in a position where his resume would dictate that maybe
he could even say I want to decide on all
personnel like I want a good amount of power almost,
you know, almost the way a legendary coach could. They're

(14:52):
giving John Harbaugh a lot of props out there, no
no doubt. All right, So your thoughts did you expect that,
By the way, Jenny j to wrap it up, did
you expect Harbaugh to get their respect he's getting after
this firing, Like we're talking, teams are rolling out the
red carpet, like every vacancy's like John Harbaugh.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I did remember my initial reaction when Ilo broke the
news was he's going to get a job before the
week's over.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
You remember that, I think you said more within forty
eight hours, not guaranteed. And first of all, I don't
sound anything, yeah right, all right, So your thoughts next
right here on Covino and Rich and stick around because
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(15:34):
on the Phones eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
He's the guy that helps us come up with all
these great ideas every day. Couldn't do it without him.
It's good to be back in Los Angeles. Covino and Rich,
we got low and chrown with your updates. But Rich,
before we get into all your picks and everything, lots
of football this weekend. Yeah, yeah, serious question because I
see what people say on social media, and I know

(15:54):
there's like a stigma of moving backwards sometimes, Like do
you look at being a head coach back to a
defensive coordinator like your boy Salah or Mike McDaniel here,
if he were to go back to an offensive coordinator,
is that a step back in your mind? I think
employment is the most important thing. And I'm not trying
to be like righteous, but I think about that. Sometimes

(16:15):
I'll watch a movie or something with my wife and
it'll be like a cheesy movie and I'm like, Ah,
that actor used to be in like more legit stuff,
but they're getting work. Yeah, it's a job. When I
see solid, like when I see him, for example, I
don't look at it that way. But I see a
lot of people say, you know, they'll be like a
reality show like villains all living in a house, and
it's like, oh, they used to be like on reality
shows that mattered.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, we're going to talk run he shows here in
a few minutes. But it's like sala, he's up for
head coaching gigs again. So it's almost like one step
back to get too forward again.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Once Jack reprove yourself. You know what, it makes me
think of something speaking of righteous and cheesy rich You
might like this one, but it's a meme that someone
sent me. Our buddy clothm has sent me this when
I was going through a divorce, and it sort of
applies if you look at it as a negative or
step back in life. An arrow can only be shot
by pulling it backward. When life is dragging you back

(17:06):
with difficulties or you got fired or whatever it means,
it's gonna launch you into something great, So just focus
and keep aiming. Sometimes in life, I mean, aside from coaching,
in life, you have to move backwards to move forward.
And that's so true. Why'd you bear your phone down?
Text out to Mike McDaniel. You know what I was gonna, Yeah,
I'm gonna DM. I't them Mike McDaniel right now for insipiration,

(17:27):
but he might not need it. He's forty two years old.
He's in a great situation. So anyway, your thoughts eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox, and it's time we do
it every year wild Card weekend. Could someone hit a
six or six parlay? It's not easy, is I remember?
In the past, no one's gone six and oh our
Pallllreina who now works with Ben Mallory whent oh and six, which,

(17:50):
by the way, you could say is equally tough. Yeah,
but like Danny g said, the following week, she went
it was four games or whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Whatever it was the next week. Yeah, but it's not
easy because that wasn't playoffs. That's when we did this
during the regular season.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's not easy to get all these all right, let's sell,
let's go game by game and honestly, we're doing point
spread and I'll throw in five or ten bucks for
everyone my treat and we'll see if we get hit
a parlay. Thanks buddy, our good friends at DraftKings, Rams
at Panthers. Now this is this is the wild one
because if you remember Week thirteen of the NFL, the

(18:25):
Panthers upset the Rams. And I'm not saying it's week
thirteen because we've you know, every week, you know, a
month and a half ago. Can we know in football
met as we'll be ten years ago. So changes a lot,
but it gives Carolina some confidence. Imagine, you know, we
beat this team at home, all right, but whether it
matters or not, they think that. Here here's the rub

(18:46):
Panthers ten and a half point underdogs. If you don't mind,
I'll start this one. I'm taking the Panthers. I don't
think they win the game, but ten and a half.
You know what, this reeks of back door cover where
Rams are killing them for quarter. Mcveigh's like we got
bigger fish to fry, takes out a couple of key players,
back door touchdown that means nothing for the Panthers, and

(19:08):
they cover. So I'm going Panthers, not winning but covering
the ten and a half. Man, I agree with you there.
I know that's not fun, but they do. You could
just go what he said, Yeah right, I think I
think a lot of us are gonna agree with you
on this one. I mean, but you know what, you
could argue completely agree. I think the Rams win, but
just not by that much. But you know what you saw.
I mean, I know the Cardinals are ass but they

(19:29):
played the Rams tough in the first half of that
game in Week eighteen, because you know, as a Niners fan,
I was hoping that there was a big upset there.
But the Rams had this ability to score quick and
a lot. That game was like ten, ten, and then
all of a sudden, you blink your eyes and they're
up by twenty. So I was sam any thoughts on
this or what you.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Want my pick here? Yeah, I'm gonna go bold here,
I'm gonna go a little fork in the room. I'm
gonna go a different directions. Say that the Rams cover
what was it again, ten and a half? Yeah, I'm
gonna say they cover that they pound the Panthers here, it's.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Not crazy, Danny g Are you you rolling Camino and
I or you think there's a pounding that's happening.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Ten and a half is too many. I feel like
Bryce Young is gonna show up and it's gonna be
closer than ten. I think maybe the Rams could pull
away and win by a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Hey, Spot, is a pounding on your agenda this weekend.
I'm here for a pounding, but not talking about the Rams. No.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
I do think the Rams actually will will dominate. So
I'm gonna go with the Rams on this one. I
mean Sam and Isaac Low and Crown a man of genius,
real man of genius.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
When did that start? What's up, Boddy? What do you
think it started at birth?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm actually gonna go with Spot and Iowa, Sam, I
think the Rams are gonna cover.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Come join our pounding over here. You're saying there's gonna
be a good rogering in Charlotte laser reference. Right, very good.
Here we go your Saturday night game, which, by the way,
what a great time for this game to air because
everyone's gonna be eating dinner on the West coast. Everyone's
gonna be chilling at eight o'clock on the East coast.
What are the NFL's most glorious rivalries? Oh, Danny g

(21:04):
you should be doing voice of work for the NFL.
Packers are going to Chicago. It's Packers by one and
a half. They're a road team giving one and a half,
which you know it might as well be a pick them,
but we'll keep the points bread in mind. But Packers Bears,
let's start with you, Danny g What are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
This one is tough for me because on our prediction
sheet in studio prior to the season, I picked Green
Bay to go to the super Bowl. But Chicago feels
like a special year for them. It just does. And
this might be a snow game I'm reading, and I
feel like Chicago can control the clock enough to eke
out the w It's going to be a close, but

(21:44):
I'm taking Chicago.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Not to put Ilo on the spot, but Ilo any
key injuries, I'm just not reminding myself.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Not really so Roma Dunsay and DJ Moore off the
injury report. There full goes CJ. Gardner Johnson ruled out
by the Bears. Zach Tom paid Packers off a tackle
listed as questionable. But that's that's all we've got, right.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I gotta be I gotta be a little bit of
a family homer. My wife and her family are Packers fans.
And it's too close to call. I think Matt Lafleur
his job might be on the line, right and they
took it east, they took it easy last week. You know,
like a lot of teams did. I think Packers in
a close just based on Matt Lafleor's experience, and I
think there's plenty of great stuff in store for the Bears,

(22:22):
but I don't know. I'm just gonna go Packers, Sammy, Man,
they only know Michael Parsons for the Packers. Oh yeah.
And here's here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
The Packer season has been was good and then it's
just like last I don't know, six games or so,
it's just been sort of lackluster. It's been sort of
falling apart. So I'm gonna go with the Bears here.
I'm gonna go the Bears will win this game.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Cove and I think Iowa Sam nailed it right there.
And what Danny g said, because Bears look like they
have a special thing going on. Kayler Williams is playing confidence.
They could run the ball, They could run the ball now,
and man, it's just he's got that arm to make
that difference. And they're playing at home. No one's really
mentioned that at Soldier Field. I'm going Bears. I just

(23:05):
want to remind everyone. I know it was a meaningless
game last week for the most part, but the Lions
did handle the Bears in Chicago, so it's not like,
you know, the Bears put up that thirty eight points
against the Niners in that really close battle, But last
week the Bears were not the same.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I feel like they were looking ahead that it's possible
Hawkers have lost four straight games. They've lost four straight
to in the regular season.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Isaac Lowencron thoughts on the Bears pack I think Sam
nailed it with the Parsons comment, you just give Williams
that much more time. I think that's what I don't know, man,
I think the Bears got a rich spotty boy.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
I think I'm going to go with the Bears on
this one. But I'm still gonna I'm gonna say it's
a tight game. I'm gonna say Bears by a field goal. Yeah,
and they cover with that well, they cover ye if
it were if it were anything more than a well,
the Packers are actually a point a half favorite. So
oh yeah, let's let's go to Sunday Sunday. Someday Sunday.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Let's move on to something which arguably is the most
unpredictable game of the week. Yeah, has Liam Neeson said
in the movie Taken good luck. Actually he didn't say it.
The killer said it. Good luck. Bill's at Jags. How
do you? Prince said, I will find you and I
will kill you, and I will kill you. Bill's at Jags.
Is this Josh Allen's moment to shine? Or is this
Trevor Lawrence's time to say, Yo, it's my fifth year.

(24:24):
I'm ready, son, Danny g I'll start with you. What
do you think? All right?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, this is gonna be interesting to watch. Cook is
the number one running back in the NFL. Of course
a Bill and the Jags have the number one run defense.
So can they bottle up the best back in the
league with their top rank run defense? That's gonna be
the key to this game. That means that all the

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weight will be put on Josh Allen's shoulders here. And
I do think that he delivers and plays a great game.
But I gotta go Jags here.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh Comno, I'm going Jacks too. What have we We've
been saying this for the past few weeks now. The
Bills have fought for every win they had. I don't
think they beat the Jaguars all right. This this is
the game that I think everything is pointing at Duval

(25:19):
Coach of the Year candidate, and you know, Trevor Lawrence
coming into his own I just feel like Josh, Josh
Allen sees this little window as a chance. Like if
he doesn't do it now, when will he ever do it?
I'm rolling Josh Allen Bills. Let's go spot what's the
spread again? Uh so too close to call? Bill Bills

(25:39):
are favored by one and a half. So field goal
covers for either you know whatever you like.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, I know, I think it's going to be another
no pounding in uh in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
But I do think it is going to be a
tight game.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
But Jack's edge out by like a point or two Sammy,
boy too, let's say by three points, Sammy.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
I mean the Bills have they I'm against all instinct.
I've got to pick the Bill. I mean, I know
they're a favorite, but I feel like they're gonna lose.
But I'm gonna take them to win and cover anyway.
All right now, the game that is, uh, maybe I
should have taken jen very emotion not very emotional for me.
You know, my dad called me on my way to
worked today and he's like, you know, Richie, you gotta
be careful, Besh and Philadelphia so much. There's a lot

(26:21):
of crazy people. Can I tell you my mom called
me and said the same thing. She's like, I do
you think rich saying all that stuff was a good thing.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
I need to apologize to Philadelphia and crazy. Better have
Mike runs his place escort you to your car after
the show. Goodness, I mean, part of the culture. Ian dude,
there has to be some trash talking, especially this time
of the year. If anyone understands trash talking fluently, it's
Eagles fans.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, so Eagles fans. I'm just kidding. Nah, you're speaking
their language. Man, forty nine ers going to Philly. I'll
start as a Niners fan. The Homer part of me
is like, they're gonna win the game. They're gonna show you.
I saw Trent Williams practicing, Ricky Pierson doing some light workouts,
Fred Warner doing sprints. Don't count on that. But even

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if they don't win, that point spread up went up
to five and a half. Five and a half's a lot.
I think the Niners cover. I want them to win, obviously,
but I think regardless they cover. I like the Niners here,
we're forgetting that before the Seahawks stifled them, they were
scored forty points a game. They didn't punts for two months.
I'm not tucking smack. I'm saying it respectfully. I think
they cover. I think they win. I think your forty

(27:27):
nine ers win this game.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I want to see the Eagles prove me wrong. But
like we said about Buffalo, Danny G, I just don't
feel it's their year, like it hasn't felt like they're
a year at all. So I'm going forty nine ers,
Danny J.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I think this is gonna end with a last second
field goal. So Rich, even if the Eagles pull it
out like that, it would still be like a twenty
to seventeen win. So I got to go with your
Niners here. That's too many points.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Sammy boy. Eagles win, but the Niners cover the five
and a half. Okay, Spotaniel Rich.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
I you know you're my pal, and my heart wants
to go with the forty nine ers pounding the Eagles.
But I'm gonna say Eagles by a touchdown, so I'm
gonna say they cover.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Is it your girl? Is it your gumaud Philip Phillies fans? Yes,
I have to go with that. Sorry, Rich go Birds,
Go birds? Is this guy you know he goes with
the acid instead of his best friends? Sorry? All right,
Chargers Patriots, Let's let's rapid fire this Chargers at Patriots
Patriots Drake May Mike Rabel three and a half point favorites.

(28:35):
I would say, if you want to start or what,
I'll give you the least favorite. Uh, the Patriots are
three and a half point. They're at home.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
You know what, maybe that Patriots schedule is is super soft,
like nice two plight toilet paper. I'm gonna take the
Chargers to win this game. Chargers are gonna win.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
You know, Sammy, I'm backing you here. Not that I
think they win, but if this game is a field
goal game, I want to be shocked. And sometimes that
hook is they called in gambling. That half a point
is like ooh, because if it's a close game with
the Patriots went by a field goal, you lose the bet.
So I like the Chargers. And Harbaugh is prepared. Man,
he's a he's a gamer. So I like I like
the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Danny, sorry to our Chargers, super homie, Luis, but that
old line is too suspect. Patriots will find a way
to get to Herbert. Patriots win this game.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Cove Man, man, it feels like a dream season for
Drake may Rich. You ever go in one of those
hippie shops and they hand you a stone and they
put it in your hand, Do you feel anything? Yeah,
and like, I never feel anything. I don't feel anything
from this game. I don't feel this crystal. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm like, I don't feel feel the power, the vibration,

(29:44):
the energy of the stone. I'm like, no, nothing. But
just based on Drake may being in the conversation for
m v P and we've talked about them all season. Yeah,
I'm going to New England here they're at home. That's
That's the only thing I can give you here and Spotty.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Uh, you know, I'm gonna go with the Patriots and
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Another girlfriend and like second is from the New England area.
They're Here's the only reason I'm going on. I heard
a stat somewhere and I don't know it was probably
some it had nothing to do with anything. But when
West Coast teams play East Coast teams later in the evening,
their their bio arrhythms are off and they don't necessarily thrive.

(30:30):
So where I think the Chargers would dominate and pound
this game. I feel like the Patriots are gonna have
that slight edge, cover the spread, and I'm gonna go
with the Patriots. Oh we got that, Patriots. You know,
we got our Monday night game. We'll do next. Hey,
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. It is
time for our Tireraq play the day. The Thunder got
it done against the Jazz in overtime last night. Shay's
got forty two points tonight, straight away on the bounce,
guarded by Clayton on a switch, works to the foutline,
spins down the lane, lays it up bright handed. Missus
Hope right on the cable plunch thunder by two one
two two The Thunder Here the Thunder courtesy of WWLS

(31:47):
Thunder Radio Network. That was the play of the day
thanks to Tirek. I mean, still dominating. But okay, see Danny,
a little back to reality where they look beatable at least,
because there was a minute where you like, I think
you gonna lose two games all the year.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, the Spurs are the team that brought them back
down to earth, but they're still yeah, the most dominant team.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Know there it is. It's those scary karate kicks, kicks
to the rim from Wemby.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
You know, after what the Spurs, I mean they were
without Lebron, but after what the Spurs did the Lakers,
you could argue the Spurs are right up there with
the Thunder right now.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Can I tell you, Danny, I mean, I I don't
want to run too late. We'll get to wire less game.
But speaking of basketball, when I was in Vegas, I
looked at the odds for the NBA title. The Thunder
still so far ahead of every other team that if
you do want to wager on an NBA champion, every
other team is so far back, like the Spurs odds
are like a great betters bet because everyone assumed Vegas

(32:39):
is assuming a repeat by the Thunder, So if you
want to get in on that action, the Spurs got
some pretty good odds, all right. So we got our
final game and Danny g I'm gonna throw it to
you because you want to get the listeners involved.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, Spotty had a great idea during the break. He said, Hey,
let's give out the email address and if you would
like to pick your six and you hit all six,
we will mail you a sea in our prize package.
I like that, all right, So email to me your
six picks. Use the spread, the DraftKings spread to see
our prizes at gmail dot com. That's see our prizes

(33:11):
at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
That's awesome. Yeah, and if you hit all six then
you have to prove that you follow us on YouTube
and then we'll hook you up. So yeah, no catches,
except you got to go six or six. If you
go six or six, you deserve a convenie on rich prize.
But we're down to the last game. We did our
picks and now we end up on Monday night. Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers Mike Tomlin keeps his job

(33:34):
for now and er they host the Houston Texans, who
you could argue has one of the best defenses in
the league and they're hot. Who do you got in
the NFL? You got to hear that you can only
stay that hot for so long, so you wouldn't. No,
I am because I'm going. I know you're not supposed to,
but what are my stakes here? I'm going with my heart.

(33:56):
And it's not that I'm a big Aaron Rodgers guy,
but there's a lot to p there's a lot to gain,
and they got DK back and I think he has
a lot to prove, so I'm going Pittsburgh here. You know,
I love the story Aaron Rodgers, DK metcalf at home.
You know, probably feels a little bad about what what
went down, so he's gonna be gaming and balling added motivation.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
So you know what.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
The reality though, I want to I want the Steelers
twin for the story, but Houston's too good. I'm going Texans.
Okayanny got quick for me.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
It feels like some Aaron Rodgers Tomlin magic after that
last game, I'm going Steelers, Sammy.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
As much as I would love to see Aaron Rodgers
and the Steelers continue into the postseason.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I'm going to take the Houston Texans to win and
covers another while though, how we kind of want to
see that where we went from hating Rogers to like
getting down with the story. I'm so sorry by the
way that that spread us three. So Houston needs win
by three, spotty wrapping up yeehaw Texans Texas. So all right,
so if we picked the Texans, we all agree they
cover by three, right, okay? Cool? And again see our
prizes at gmail dot com if you want to give

(34:56):
us your picks, and I'll post all of our picks
at covin on Rich. We go old school next right
here on Fox Sports Radio. And you know that Throwback
Thursday phrase? You know when that started? By the way,
think a guess and how to be into social media?
Think of that in the early day two thousand and nine,

(35:18):
oh six, Oh wow, this will be the twenty year
anniversary of us using the phrase Throwback Thursday TBT, and
we throw it back old school and fifty hits on
the clock. Lebron so much going on. Lebron James has
a trading mark. Yeah, that and Taco Tuesday and today
we look back. I think we kind of have to

(35:40):
look back. I'm saying starting from ninety two. I'll explain why.
But the reason we're talking about reality shows today is
because on this day in two thousand and four, they're
saying one of the best reality shows arguably debut and
that is Apprentice with Donald Trump. A right that was
before The Apprentice with people were divided on him. They said, hey,

(36:04):
you know, he's a hell of a TV show host,
So we liked this show. The Apprentice debuted and know four.
But I'm gonna even add to this, poor Michael Daniel
that you're fired, You're fired. Who doesn't better? Who does
it better? You're fired? Donald Trump fired? Or Vince mick Man.

(36:27):
I think Vince. I was gonna say, your old boss
from Z one hundred. Yeah, that's true, that is true.
You know I got you know I got. I got
fired once because I got caught on another radio station.
Was cheating on a radio story anyway. But based on that,
we want to throw it back to some of your
favorite reality show memories and your favorite ones. Really, but
it's not just The Bachelor. I'm sure, jeez, I give

(36:47):
it away. It's not just The Apprentice Today. The Bachelorette
debuted on this day, no way, Yeah, and a different year.
Your favorite show, I Love New York debuted on his day,
and I wanted to let everyone know what did that?
You only show's debuting on this day? Probably just had
what that like Winter lineup hits? Right?

Speaker 6 (37:04):
Eh?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, that's pretty wild. But Isaac Lone Crown's favorite show,
and I believe I would say I loved it as
a kid three and three quarter stars Star Search Oh
with Ed McMahon. They are revamping it and it debuts
on Netflix January twentieth, and it's so weird. Jelly rolls
a judge, Sarah, Michelle Geller and Chrissy Tiagan and it's
hosted by Anthony Anderson. Weird if you mean the Slim

(37:27):
and Trim Anthony Anderson? Have you seen him? You mean
the Slim and Trim Jelly Roll? Yeah, Yeah, there's a
lot of weird says that show sponsored by Hols Epic seriously. So,
based on all these anniversaries and the anniversary of the
Apprentice on this day all those years ago, what were
the OG favorites the greatest? Because it really changed everything

(37:49):
the way we watch the TV. You know, for me,
I said, it goes back to ninety two because I
associate the real world with one of the first like
real nonscript it shows. In that way, you could say
game shows or competition shows are the original reality shows.
But the real world for me on MTV ninety two

(38:09):
sort of changed the game as far as what people
wanted to watch. Kavino's a big Johnny Bananas guy. No,
my sister is actually yeah, but no, I think it
really changed. It changed MTV. Yes, that's when we stopped
watching videos.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
And for our age group, we weren't out of the
house yet. We were maybe getting towards that point. But
it was interesting to see others who are a few
years older than us, you know, living out on their
own for the first time.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Now, when you talk about the best reality shows of
all time, you could include reality like dating and game
shows or following people around. I'm gonna give you my two.
I don't want to take the answers, but I have
to throw it out there. I have two distinct favorites,
ones in the dating world and ones like following people
around it. Okay, and I know Kavino is gonna agree
with me based on where grew up. I think the best,

(38:56):
hands down reality show. Yeah, we don't Pump our Gas,
We Pump our Fist Jersey Jersey. Sure, yeah, two thousand
and nine. Those clowns kept our interest on a whole
new level. And the reality pun intended is if you
grew up on the East Coast, you knew people like that,
but the rest of the country was like these people

(39:17):
for real, true story. We actually wrote a song. We
have a band, or had a band called the Dirty
Jersey Poets, a Ticklesack spin off, and we wrote a
song called we Don't pump our Gas, We pump our
Fists because we don't pump our gas in New Jersey,
we pump our fists, and they used it for the
Jersey Shore. They used it on the show. We got credited,

(39:39):
and every stupid parody song was actually on the soundtrack
of the Jey Create I remember. You can find it
somewhere online if you look hard enough. And we know
what's interesting about that is being in radio for as
long as we've been, we've interviewed a lot of really
famous people, and at their height, I'm not sure there
was anyone bigger than getting Snooky and Paulie d and

(40:00):
it was like they were the biggest gets at that time. Sam.
At that time I was Sam, I know you could
roll your eyes to this, but I promise you when
when we were booking big guests, He's right, Like when
it was like snookies in today, it was a big deal.
People were like, wait, snookies here. It was. It was
a big deal. So I'm gonna go my favorite following

(40:20):
people around reality show. Okay, Jersey Shore, that's great, and
I'm gonna go more current form my favorite dating show.
I'm fascinated and still think as far as dating shows,
Love is Blind. There's something about it. These dopes go
in a pod, they talk to people without seeing them.
You said it so matter of factly, like your dad, Oh,

(40:40):
love is blind blind because they they clearly once they
see each other it's not gonna work out. But that
like attempt to be like we really clicked in the pods,
you know, when they see each other and it's like, yeah,
you're not hot enough. And it's because it's an experiment
that we all got to witness. I always wondered, that's ridiculous,
and you know it's again it's a dating show. You

(41:01):
could say, oh, how real is it? I'm going Jersey
Shore and love is Blind? Are my answers? Well, I
don't know if I have favorites. I never really loved
the world of reality TV, but there's one I want
to give credit to. Right again, we're talking about it
because The Princess debut on this day in two thousand
and four, along with a few other shows. I mentioned

(41:22):
Real World ninety two people debate that was the start
of this. But we got to credit the late great
Ozzy Osbourne for allowing the cameras in SHA's household and
seeing a completely different side of Ozzy. Like you know,
on paper, you're like, that's going to be weird and
who cares about his kids? And they made it so entertaining.

(41:43):
I remember coming home from work and I'd see my
family cracking up, my younger siblings cracking up, laughing. All
of a sudden, Ozzy Osbourne became like this, this wholesome
dude that everybody loved and got a kick out. The
Prince of Darkness. Was that like comedic relief and amazing. Yeah,
and you realize how charming he was. And I think
a lot of people saw what it did for his

(42:06):
family and his career, and they followed suit and that
really opened the doors for a lot of other families
and unlikely situations to happen in the world of reality TV.
And that debuted March fifth, two thousand and two, like
Hogan those best. Yeah, there was a lot of shows
and families that followed after that. So I don't want
to give credit to the Osbourne's other families, you know,
I'll throw it one more out there. And then the

(42:26):
phones were all lit and by the way, you got
a credit MTV. MTV played a big part in a
lot of this stuff. Yeah, and there they asked ruined
the videos, but it changed. It became a movement. Cavino
used to make fun of me because I would always
se the same name of the credits. There was a woman,
Sally Salsano.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Sally.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Every reality show at that time was like produced by her,
so I was like, she must be making banks. She
was saying one more. I didn't really watch it, but
I was fascinated. I thought it was a cool concept
when they took the cole Ritchie in Paris Hilton and
put them in like the country life and made them
do like milking cows and all that someone could produce
the show about us doing that for sure, simple life.

(43:03):
I thought it was a cool concept. I didn't watch it,
but I feel like the girl I was dating at
the time loved and I feel like a lot of
girls in college were like, I'm rich and I to
a Lascar race and we could we could recreate this show.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, I was on the phones. I don't think you
guys mentioned this one. I just got one because I
remember thinking to myself and I was I think we
were probably in our late twenties when this was on
Rock of Love. Do you remember the like the Brett Michaels. Yes,
my grandmother would call them hussies, but they were like
rock like.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Party, they were rock Hussies. It was the equivalent of
like like Flavor of Love rock a love like Yeah,
it was. It was all these like not you know,
not to be rude, but formerly huge rock stars Brett
Michaels and then Flavor Flavor on the hip hop side,
do you want to date a former like rock star
or hip hop star? And the girls that went out

(43:53):
for those shows were even crazier than like The Bachelor.
In fact, we met one of them in Vegas. This
is a girls on a Flavor of Love if she
was on Flavor of Low. Yeah, her name is Ice,
which is not a great name to have. Now my
Flavor flav gave her that name on the show, and
she's now a rock She's a rock hoast for iHeart

(44:13):
and and she she metas stated She's like, hey guys,
I'm Ice, and you know, and she straight up the
first thing she said was like, yeah, I got that
name was a I was on Flavor of Love. She
said it changed her life. Yeah, so it prompts to her. Yeah,
it's insane. So what were your favorites? What do you
think maybe never got enough credit or your favorite moments
as we look back at at something that really changed

(44:33):
the way we watched television reality TV, which God, I
was saying, I have a quick one.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
I'm not a huge reality TV fan, but I actually
sought out this show. It was on True TV. It
started in twenty ten. Not Pond Stars, but hardcore Pond.
It was following this guy less Gold than his family
and it was right off of eight Mile in Detroit.
And it was so funny because these people would come
in to sell something at this pawn shop owned by
less Gold and it was like clearly staged, like a
little bit, like they pay these people, but they'd have

(45:00):
the funniest interactions. He's like people who are like on
drugs or they're just like down and out trying to
sell some fake watch and they'd have these big blow
ups with less gold in his family, and it was
just like so entertaining.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Oh you know, it's another good reality show, if you
want to call it that. There was one where I
believe someone got stabbed on the show. Do you guys
remember watching Cheaters?

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Yeah, yeah, that I think, Yeah, that was Joey Greco.
But wasn't that We found out it was actually stage.
He might love that a lot, like a blood packet
or something, but he was on a boat and he
gets stabbed.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
By a guy. I do remember that, but you know,
based on Sam Star, I do remember hardcore pawn by
the way, I was a big fan in the early
days of pawn Stars, before Rick became a sort of
a jerk in my opinion, scamming people. Yay, I'll give
you two dollars for it. That started in two thousand
and nine. I just remember getting a real kick out

(45:51):
of like Chum Lee and like, look at these guys Man.
Then they started slaying it and they became superstar celebrities.
But I was a big fan early on there, and
when it comes to those type of shows, I'm also
a big fan of American Pickers. So shout out to
Mike Wolfe. I like that show on the History Channel.
Let me hit you up with what might be the original?
I don't I don't necessarily consider that a reality show. People,
So well, I'm with you with the Jersey shore Rich.

(46:12):
That might be my all time favorite when I think
about it, Danny, we all say real world, right, like
when we're talking before the shows, like, well, Michael, it's
the real world for that style we have reality TV.
Would you go back even further and say, well, as
far as reality goes, was there reality? Remember Cops Cops
was on when we were kids. Oh? Hell you and
you could argue that was real? I mean it was real.

(46:35):
What you're going to do?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, we're gonna do and you big Mica, who doesn't
run anything, brought up the great point of like America's
funniest videos and shows like that. He said, CURRENTID camera, Yeah,
all the way back, because those shows did have a
slice of reality.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Baby, do you remember the theme song. It was really
if you could give me the first line of that,
I'll buy you lunch out, give you.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Don't look it up, America, look at you. But that
was like the last line, America, America, this is you.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
That story is from your friend next door. They never
tell came roll. It's the Red, white and blue. The
funny thing is you do, America, this is you. We
gotta get a life. I know we do. Let's go

(47:28):
to Fred in Virginia. Beat that Fred. What's up, buddy, Fred?
What's up?

Speaker 7 (47:37):
I was calling about the news drops that he dropped
with about the Detroit Lions bringing in Mike McDonald. All right,
now you guys are on reality shows. Hard Knocks has
got to do one if he goes Troy, My god,
Heart Knocks is already great. I was gonna mention that,
but like, think about the two of those guys together,

(48:00):
Campbell and McCall.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
By the way, McDaniel, I love that call, and I
love the tie in. I love how you brought that up.
But you know what I give credit to and I
could be way off on this. Before Hard Knocks, you
know what really changed the game. I think when it
came to Inside look at sports twenty four sevens bam, Yeah, Yo,
twenty four seven would get you so high for those
Mayweather fights and Pocky own Man. Those were voiced by

(48:23):
Lev Shreiber, right, and he did a stellar job. He
would they would get you so high for these fights
that you probably normally wouldn't care about. John. There would
be no Hard Knocks without twenty four We're all on
the same page. Twenty four seven. It was great, And
you know, it's so funny. I was going to bring
up hard Knocks because I was going to say, recently
in the world of sports, I think receiver and quarterback

(48:44):
on Netflix have been great, but they're just really you know,
a different spin on really hard knocks, right, but you're
just following around some players. But with He's right, Dan Campbell,
Mike McDaniel, and we saw what a character I'm aran
Saint Brown is on receiver, Like if they did hard Knocks,
I know there's a criteria. I think that you missed
the playoffs, right, So the Lions did miss the playoffs,
the Lions would be a very interesting follow That was great. Great, Yeah,

(49:07):
that's awesome, Yo, Fred, Thanks brother. Uh, let's add a
trip in Vegas, who we saw a couple of days ago.
It's up Trap Trip. It was great hanging man, what's.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
Up, Hey, good afternoon. Great to hear. I just want
people to know live. Your hair looks even better than
on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
It's a shame that I'm covering it with a Yankee hat. Forday, yeah,
thank you man, the best hair and radio.

Speaker 8 (49:26):
No shame in a Yankee hat. So I'll give you
four quick ones and I'll let y'all comments, not in
any order. I was going to say American Idol Stories Wars,
deadliest catch in Fear Factor.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yo, Joe Rogan, who is like, you know, top of
the Game of Podcasts. Are you crazy? Crazy Joe Rogan?

Speaker 6 (49:42):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Fear Factor was his first gig when he had hair.
I showed my kids a clip of that. I'm like, hey,
but it's back with Johnny Knox. I know, yeah, it's
coming back. The preview was on. I showed my kids
and I go, my daughter's name is Emmy. I'm like, Emmy,
if I told you, I'd give you like hundreds of
dollars to buy a bunch of toys or whatever you wanted,
but you had to like go in a little t
thankful of like snake. She's like, I don't know, yes, no, yeah,

(50:04):
like it's funny. Tod show was so groundbreaking. Where it
lost its way in my opinion is it went from
fear factor to like gross factor, like how gross are
you willing to get? It wasn't like eat this disgusting pistacle,
you know, like it's like, oh my god, you know
for the sake of conversation, Really that boy, it did

(50:24):
go from like tank of snakes to eat testicles. You
really did very quickly. Yum yum. I asked my boy,
chat GPT, you know what was the first reality show?
Because chat GPT says an American Family nineteen seventy three PBS,
often called the first modern reality TV show, found real
life daily experiences of the Loud family for several months,

(50:47):
but it was defined as the first reality TV show.
Earlier predeces precursors Candid Camera nineteen forty eight, seven Up
nineteen sixty four, UK show Queen for the Day nineteen fifties.
But they do go back and they say, bottom line,
American Family nineteen seventy three is like the official one,

(51:08):
but Real World and Survivor were the game changers. Is
what it says.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Speaking of Survivor season fifty, that's insane. It's about two
debut season five, oh.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
By like like two or three a year. I would
say if there was a Hall of Famer amount, Rushmore
props would be on there. His whole career, his whole longevity.
How he still keeps the who was the first guy?
Richard Hatch or something. I was just going to ask
you a trivia question. He remember he didn't pay his
taxes and he went to jails. Right. Oh, you made
me think of some other one. Remember those uh those

(51:40):
like average Joe shows or whatever where millionaire Joe millionaire?

Speaker 6 (51:44):
You remember that one.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I thought you were going to talk about the petros one. Ah, yeah,
those are more of the game. I like though, that.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Was a great petros Us that. I remember that being
a great show because it was the first time where
it's like, yeah, some dumb JABBRONI could actually test his
skills again. It's like a retired player. I love that show.
That was a good one. You know, I'm sorry, Covino.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I was just gonna say one thing that is interesting
about reality TV. It's one of the genres where you
could go from making fun of a show or making
fun of your wife or your girlfriend or boyfriend for
watching one of them, and then suddenly you get pulled in.
So true like ninety Day Fiance Brenda loves that show
and I just looked it up. That debut in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Dude, people that love that show. Oh love it show. Yeah.
I made fun of her at first.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
I'm like these losers traveling to these other countries. And
then I'd be looking while I was in the kitchen,
what what what.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Watch you watch? You're watching that fact guy with know
neck exactly.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
In San Diego, quick story, man, the first half of
our show together, Rich and I. He'd come in talking
about the Bachelor all the time. Bachelor and I think
you are the biggest weenie, was like talking about the Bachelor.
Started dating a girl who was obsessed with the Bachelor,
and sure enough pulled me in and I sort of
take it back. I get the intrigue. Now, you know,
I hate myself for but it's true.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
I don't know if this is technically a reality show,
but very fascinating a show called junk Yard Wars where
they'd build like machines out of junk in like just
like build like a hovercraft or like a go cart,
and they'd have to like compete. Yeah, and it was
just they had to do in ten hours or like
twelve hours. They build these contractions out of crap.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
That's see. It sounds like a fun concept. Oh very fun.
You know, Trip brought up one that I think we
got to readdress because it changed everything. Yeah, there was
star Search every shows like that, but like American Idol
really did revolutionize, like it. I props the seacrafts and
everyone's still doing it. It's fun to watch here in
the Uncleman man all of them and gets no credit.
I'll watch a highlight here there, you know, Lionel Ritchie

(53:40):
and you know other people are on the panel now.
But that original American Idol team, you know, now it's
run its course, probably right. But remember back then, nobody
would actually become a star. The bummer with that show
now is you win it that You win it now
and no one knows you two months later. But back then,
remember Kelly Clarkson was like some country bumpkin that was

(54:00):
on a plane, never on a plane, and Carrie Underwood
was like some small town girl. And Klay Aiken was
a dufist. They get up like lightning in a bottle.
You couldn't have predicted that that cast of Simon Collan,
Paula Abdul hadn't done anything in years, you know, not
a well known seacres and the reality though no one
would have thought it would taken off like it did.
It was right before you could get famous from YouTube. Yeah,

(54:23):
and Kelly Clarkson think about it, got a daytime TV show,
probably has about fifty songs. If people know she has
a Vegas residency. She was like a game changer. Rich
because so many shows like that or a spin on
that followed right X Factor and all those shows. Yep,
I put this in the category. I think MTV really
put out a lot of fun stuff at the time.

(54:45):
And you know, of course in the eighties we had
Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous with Robin Leach, but
Chris with.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Robert Wishes and.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Dam but Cribs was a lot of fun too.

Speaker 8 (54:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
You know, we got to take a little peak because
tell me, you didn't want like those man caves and
their setups. Watching that, it really made you dream big
when you saw how some of these athletes and superstars
were living. You know, you know the progression. It was
Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, then MTV Cribs and
then every idiot just fake Briggs about their life on
ye yep, we made it.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Do you guys remember kind of that staatee kind of
like Cribs, but a very short lived show called Room
Raiders where a woman would go into a guy's house
and look through his closet and be like, can I
date this dude?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Break out like a black find like stains and stuff
they want like a date my mom. That was insinuated, Sam.
The stains were insinuated. The stains and stuff they couldn't see, stains, stags,
lots of stains, you know, stays. Let's wrap this for
John and Montana, John Covino and Retchrands a buddy.

Speaker 9 (55:48):
Hey, guys, I was just hearing that the uh season
fifty coming up for Survivor, which is awesome. One new
one I'm fully about right now is the Traders on
Teapot season four coming up tonight.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
That's probably one of the best, isn't Traders, Like it's
all like the villains from the former show, So it's
like good girl friends of Yeah, it's like the doucheiest
of douches, and they're all against each other, which is
like probably a cool concept, I'd imagine, you know, Traders
is all the seedless celebrities. Yes, what is it? Like
Jack's from vander Pump, He's probably on it, probably like

(56:23):
Johnny Bananas in the mid Way. It's it's a big
one man vander Pump. Now that you bring it up,
you know that. Also, all these shows debut around this time.
I saw that the other day, So, hey, enjoy your
reality TV in honor of all so many of them
started on this day, from The Bachelorette to The Apprentice
to you name it, Flavor Love, all all this day.
So all right, listen, let's get back to the NFL

(56:44):
and we will talk some NBA because you know, if
you if you don't know what we're talking about. There's
a clip of women Yama. I don't know how you've
missed it, but he there's balls stuck in the rim,
right stuck in the net. There's like three or four
balls stuck in the net. So Wemby decides that he's
gonna like karate kick him out, and his toes are

(57:06):
practically hitting the rim.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Hey, we were thinking of just the last couple of
reality shows. There's a whole, there's a whole Rich Rich
of course, Rich remembered this one dating naked.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Well dandy gen I was saying. I was like, there's
a whole slow like naked shows, like making it up
to be on that one naked dating just short.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Also, we didn't we didn't give exhibit props. How about
Pimp my Ride?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh man, that's my guy exhibit. Yeah, that's so dope. Yeah,
the bed layer built into the back seat. Now you know,
there's a lot of like updates on how all those
cars were just train wrecks afterward, like they were.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, they fell apart, fell apart, and rich? Which one
did Mouser chime in?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Oh, our buddy, Our buddy. Mouser said, think about the
controversy and and positives and negatives to come out of
the Biggest Loser.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
You were on that one, right, There were there were
a lot of there were a lot of network shows
like that, like Wife Swap.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Oh yeah, you were on that one, all right? Man?
You know, I just I just lost a couple of
coffee to Danny. You could why you you expect me
to say something? What do you to bet, Yeah, what
do you think. I thought you were gonna say for what?
For what show? When he brought up pit my rid
something about exhibit what that I flew on a plane
with him. Yeah, yeah, I bet I owe your coffee.

(58:35):
I go. Danny's like, well, what about pimp My Ride?
I said, I guarantee if you bring up pim My Ride,
Comino is gonna say. You know, I sat next to
him on a plane once.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
We chatted the whole time. You couldn't have been any cool. Honestly.
I was like a row or so behind them, and
I was like, who's comno talking to for five Like
it was like a New York to l a fight.
I'm like Covino on the exhibit or best Bros. It
was so cool. Well, I had like immediate connect. I
was like I pulled up a picture like, Yo, you
were on our show a few years ago. It's like,
no way. So anyway, We're live from the Fox Sports
Radio studio and if you want to chime in on

(59:03):
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thousand and four. Hit us up at Covino and Rich
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how Express can help you hire smarter and faster. Okay,
so I want to talk to some of the craziest
sports flexes. I know you have some things on your mind.
Rich Yeah, I mean this weeby thing. I you know
you saw it before me because i was like, wait,
what are you guys looking at here? And I'm like,
is it wait? Is his foot what? Well, like put

(01:00:08):
it in perspective growing up, this is when you realize, long,
I guess I'm never gonna make it in the NBA,
Like if you could touch the rim, that was an
accomplishment first, Like you hit the bottom of the net,
You're like, all right, I'm getting some ups here. Can
you tell us he touches rim? Just standing up nothing toilet. No,

(01:00:28):
you're just thinking playground, right, Honestly, you're nazy. Your high
school absolutely right, if you're just horsing around with your
buddies at gym class or at the playground. Started with
the bottomry. I got the bottom. I'm not gonna be shit.
None of my friends could slam dunk, but it was
a breaking right to be like Yo, you could touch
touching rim was like, all right, touching rim was you
had some up touching touching rim. At you were like

(01:00:50):
roughly six foot and and like you had some some skills,
like I could touch rim. Started mass producing those adjustable
rims everyone had. When you lower down eight feet, you
start slam and jam and rip rorn and ramon. All right,
that was a game changer. But for most regular people
you barely touch rim. And now you got freaks in

(01:01:10):
the NBA, like women and Yama. This dude could lift
his leg karate kicks it. He could karate kick the rim.
Do you understand what we were saying here. That's that's,
that's why I putting it in perspective. We couldn't even
jump with our hands held high and hit the rim barely.
This guy lifts his leg up karm a little crane
kick like Daniel l Russo he touches it with his

(01:01:32):
big toe. Look at it this way. We've seen things
where it's like yo, You've seen a guy hit his
head on the backboard where you're like, yo, he's so
tall that he went up for a rebound and misjudge
it and he you know ups. You know sometimes I
used to pray for ups. You've never got any, Danny.
You've seen guy like players like hit their head on
like the lower part of the backboard because it's just

(01:01:52):
you know, they're so big, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
They Lebron was trending the other night because on one
of his dunks, his head was at the rim, just
above the rim, and this freak is forty one in
his heads above the rim.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Still by the way, blast man. But you know what,
that's something you can improve on if you work. You
worked hard enough at it, you know, you could always
improve your your jumps for sure. And this didn't work
hard enough. I'm not a I'm not trying to be fattest.
Would that be the term? Mm hmm yep, fattest. It's
like racist, but against fat people. You ever see on
social media, there'll be a funny clip where like some

(01:02:24):
let's say, some big fella tells his wife or someone
like I could still jump, and then he jumps and
he gets like two inches off the ground. Yeah, he's like,
I could do it, and he jumps like two inches.
To think, like just a regular guy, if we went
to the basketball court right now at the gym across
the street, if I told you Cavino take off from
the free throw line and see if you see like

(01:02:44):
how close you would even get. And then think like
Michael Jordan and guys like that were taking off and
dunking from there and doingump fakes, and you jump, your
feet are on the ground like that quick. So when
we're seeing guys like when min Yama now able to
put their foot up to the rim. What are some
other crazy sport flexes that come to mind? I got
a few. I got some fun ones and some legit ones,

(01:03:06):
Like what comes to mind immediately is Kurt Hennig how
he would throw a pass and catch the pass to
himself because he was mister perfect, because he did everything perfect.
I'll give you one for real. I'm not saying mister
Perfect wasn't real. I'm just wait a second. You know
how he bowled the three hundred was perfect a pool.
It was a great gimmick, mister perfect three point shot.

(01:03:27):
I'll give you one that I always was fascinated by
because as a kid, you didn't realize how how strength
was needed. When Bo Jackson would break a bat over
his knee sport or just like break a bat, you'd
be like, you know, like you thought about that. You're like, okay,
and then you hold the back and you're like, yeah, right,
he broke it over his helmet, over his helmet. You
know you did it this year. You know I'm gonna

(01:03:48):
miss him a lot. Polar Bear, Pete Pete a Lonzo
did that this year. And when you see one of
these big, strong guys break a baseball bat, you're like,
it's like a strong guy ripping a phone book. You
know if you if you pretend if you tried to
do that, you'd probably roll around in pain. So we'll
get to your phone calls, your feedback and we got
more you know, crazy sports flexes next, but we got

(01:04:09):
I low now with an updaten.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Do you mind if I real quick give you my
sports flex?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah? I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
This is not so much as a flex, is just
a great story. But back in the sixties, during the
peak of Muhammad Ali, the top player in the NFL
and arguably the greatest running back of all time, was
Jim Brown. Jim Brown made it be known that he
very seriously wanted to box Muhammad Ali. He thought he
could legitimately beat Muhammad Ali because he was such a

(01:04:37):
great athlete. Remember, he was like an epic lacrosse player
in addition to being a running back. So the two
of them happened to be in London at the same time,
and Ali tells him to meet him in Hyde Park,
which is a famous park in London. So there they
are Ali and Jim Brown, just the two of them,
face to face, no handlers, know nothing, And before Jim

(01:04:57):
Brown says anything, Ali he starts lightly slapping him, just
slapping him like this, and all these hands were so
lightning fast that Jim Brown realized right then and there, Yeah,
there's no way I could ever saw all the flex
up close with literally the greatest.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Oh yeah, yeah he knows boy exhibit. Hey yeah, we're
getting closer and closer to game time. Yo, who do
you got, Old Miss? You got Miami? What you got, dude?
I want to see Carson Beck go off. You know
our buddy Michael Yo, comedian and host. He's going to
the game, and I know he's a listener to our
show and a longtime friend. Michael Yo is like, you

(01:05:44):
better show Miami some love tonight. But then again, our
super agent Sean Wyman, his son goes to Old Miss,
so he's going to be at the game with his son.
So we got friends that are pulling for Old Miss.
We got Miami friends, so it should be a good
one tonight. Like I said, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
if you're a football fan, you gotta be excited more
than you've been in a long, long ass time. Speaking
of we're talking about Fernando Mendoza on over promised in

(01:06:06):
nine minutes Covino and rich fs are we're gonna talk
about him social media and things that we did in
the nineties that we think are weird now, okay and
more Over promised new episode on this YouTube page. Coveno
and Rich FSR. We do it in nine minutes now.
We talked about the sports flexes like just you know,
like when people are just so athletic, like well, the

(01:06:28):
first time you see some of these, you're not sure
if they're real, Like Michael Jordan taking off from like
beyond the free throw line, like you know bo dk
Metcalf chasing that guy down. Remember, oh my god, Yeah,
I was gonna say bo Jackson breaking a bat over
his knee or head or anything. In the eighties, like
there are feats of strength and ability where you're like what,
and you know, sometimes you forget how strong and athletic

(01:06:52):
people are. Danny Isaac told the story about how Muhammad
Ali was just joking around with uh Jim Brown, and
Jim Brown was like, I could fight you in within
two seconds. Jim Brown. The legendary stories like no, I'm
not even gonna joke with you. Like you ever see
like Ryan Garcia like mid air hitting a water bottle
and just keeping it up because he's so fast. There's

(01:07:12):
a story asset from the eighties and no one ever realized,
you know, people discount the athleticism of hockey players because
are on skates. There was a race like a charity
something like Star Race. Wayne Gretzky dusted Pele beyond Borg
and Sugar Ray Leonard in a foot race like this.

(01:07:33):
But they this footage of this and Wayne Gretzky like
as if he's a championship runner just dust them. That's insane.
So that's a big time flex. I mean three come
to mind for me, and we'll wrap it up with
your calls. Each row playing like target practice with the bats.
When he knocks those bats down from the outfield, that's
It's like, is that real? You ever see David Beckham

(01:07:53):
who we've interviewed and he's sickening handsome, but when he
hits the he's kicking soccer balls on the beach and
him into the garbage cans. And how about the first
time you saw Tiger Woods dribbling like the golf ball
in his club and like the first time he saw that,
You're like, is that real? Josh? And iwa real quick,
what's up? Josh?

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Guys?

Speaker 9 (01:08:13):
My sports flex as a kid gave me the ultimate
false sense of hope when I saw spud Web at
five foot four.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Isn't that wild to think a guy that tiny got
those ups like his body is winning dunk contest no
less off his own bounce pass and real Chris and Alabama.
What's up, hey, guys, we're good to real quick. We
got a roll, So what's your sports fleas Not.

Speaker 8 (01:08:35):
So much a flex as a brag. We're about the
guy that got a yunk caught on the pole vault.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
By the way, that's the perfect that's the perfect way
to wrap up our show. A guy in the Olympics
who got his junk stuck on the pole vault, and Sebastian,
a man of scalcoll talks about it on his new special.
He does like I mean, like I told everyone, when
it happens, you rather that happened than actually win because
oh he won? What are people going to talk about that?
Or you're you're winning pole vaulting?

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
No one?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
All right, we'll see you guys, enjoy Miami Ole, miss
At Kavino Rich. Let's know who you got a right
a riba there at you baby, See you in the
over promised land Landau