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You're listening to Bill Handle on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. You are
listening to the Bill Handle show.Well KFI AM six forty Bill Handle Here.
It is a Friday morning, Apriltwelfth. Boy, so much is
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going on today. We did twosegments Petros and I did two segments on
the death of OJ and it's hispersonal relationship with OJ in my personal relationship
with Mark Furman. And so thatwas seven thirty to what seven thirty at
seven am and seven to twenty.Sorry, from seven to seven thirty.
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All right, Steve Gregory is withus, and I always talk about Unsolved
with Steve Saturday night from seven tonine. However, Steve occasionally does specials.
Let me talk about a busy guywhen he's not overeating with me.
That's true, yea, when we'renot doing buffets. No, No,
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it's just a little tough. Imean a lot. Okay, never mind.
I was gonna tell you the lasttime we had a buffet, but
it was a couple of weeks ago. It was a couple of weeks ago.
Now let's talk about that specially absolutely. Thanks, yeah, Bill.
So this Sunday at two pm,we're airing Sex drugs and social media.
We taped it on Tuesday, andit's two parts, so in total,
it's a four hour special split upinto two parts. Part one this Sunday.
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Part two airs the Sunday after onthe twenty first at two pm.
And what we wanted to do wasexplore this problem, this issue where apps
and online access to drugs and reallydeep dark stuff. But kids have become
so vulnerable with apps and with allof these social media platforms and all of
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these things that are happening at rapidfirepace, and parents don't know what to
do. They don't know how tostay ahead of it, they don't know
what and how to keep up.And so what we did is we broke
it down. So the first partthis Sunday really deals with sextortion, online
bullying and stuff like that. That'shuge news because that story broke yesterday about
sextortion and what the major platforms aremade is doing and what they came out
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with and say, here are thesafeguards. Are the guardrails we're going to
put in. And what I heardand what I saw an interview with one
of the mothers who lost her childas a result of sex story, well
doesn't believe a word of what Metais doing. Well, that's what prompted
us to do the special because Iheard a very similar story from the Special
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Agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigationshere in Los Angeles, Eddie Wong.
He told me a story about ayoung kid who thought he was having a
sort of an intimate online relationship witha young girl. We're talking like fourteen
years old. And when that escalator, the conversation escalated to where the boy
sent nude photos of himself. Well, it wasn't a fourteen year old girl
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on the other end. It waslike, you know, some adult man
in his fifties in a foreign country. And that guy goes back and says,
listen, now I have your nudes. You better pay us a thousand
dollars. And the boy's freaking out. He said, if you're not,
I'm going to send this to yourpastor, your cup Scout leader, your
parents, your school teachers. Andthe kid doesn't know what to do,
so he said, okay, we'lltake three hundred dollars, get it from
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your parents, whatever you can do. And it made the kid so distraught
he ended up killing himself, Imean. And so that was the impetus
for us to do this. Sothis first two hours on Sunday, we
talk with Agent Wong. We alsotalked with Pete Hush, he's the sergeant
with the Ela County sheriff Department's Fraudand Cybercrimes Bureau, about how pervasive it
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is in Los Angeles County in southernCalifornia. It is crazy out there right
now. People don't understand it.It is going on as we speak,
this is happening. And also theonline bullying piece of this too, how
people are encouraging others to hurt themselvesand hurt others and pushing people to commit
suicide online in live, real time. So we talk about in the first
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two hours, and then next weekon the following Sunday, we do the
drug component. And this one isheart wrenching because we bring in Sam Chapman
and Matt Kapaluta, both of whomlost their teenage children to fentanyl poisoning.
Sam Chapman's teenage boy fifteen years old, ordered what he thought was like a
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Xanax type medication on Snapchat and itwas delivered to the house and by the
next morning was dead because it hadfentnel mixed in it. You know,
A couple of things I wonder aboutis I mean, we got two issues
going on, this extortion issue,which is affects people deeply. I think
there's a way around that night andit's happening with adults too, yes,
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but kids it's even more vulnerable.So most the vulnerable kids. I mean,
you wish that these kids would go, hey, go ahead, you
know, I mean, there'll benude photos of me. I had a
relationship with you on the internet,all right, So what are they going
to do? You know, yourparents are going to disown you. I
mean, but they don't have thewherewithal to be that's underdeveloped mind. Yeah,
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they don't understand that it's not thatbig a deal where you're going to
be ostracized for the rest of yourlife. Well, embarrassment, shame,
you know, in status. That'skids today, especially with social media.
So then we also talked to twoexperts. We talked to a guy out
of Ladera Ranch in Orange County.This guy is amazing. He was a
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former school resource officer with the OrangeCounty Sheriff's Department, now has a company.
You know, he he talks alot about the issues he's dealing with
and how he goes around the countryand counsels school districts on how to deal
with these issues in school counselors andteachers. And then we also talk to
somebody with a software company called barkdot us and their software can be installed
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on a kid's phone and it alertsparents. It's algorithms and it's AI,
has keywords and emojis, because that'sa whole language that adults don't know about.
Emojis is an entire different language thatkids speak online. And you would
be amazed at what the simplest littleicons in photos really mean. And so
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we talk about that, we doa deep dive on it. We taped
it in our performance studio upstairs witha studio audience and it was basically parents
and parents brought their kids. Wehad educators in the audience. It was
an amazing taping. It was long, but it was worth it. And
again Part two will air this Sundayat two and Part two the following Sunday
at two. All Right, Stevehas a special airing this Sunday at two
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pm. Steve, you normally hearUnsolved, which is a regular show you're
on kfive, seven and nine aton Saturdays. But occasionally Steve does a
special and they're pretty spectacular, theyreally are. This one is the two
part special and if you can remindus, and then I'm going to throw
some question. It's called sex,Drugs, and social media, and we
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deep we go deep dive on theissues with sextortion, online bullying, you
know, just some of the reallydark, twisted things that are happening.
And it's the young people that arethe targets and the most vulnerable. So
we talked to not only parents,we talk to you know, law enforcement,
We talk to other experts on howparents can prepare themselves, what to
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look for, red flags, thingsof that nature, even some software that
can help them. And it's justthat this thing is so rampant right now
in southern California that we really feltlike we needed to give it some time
and really take our time withveloping.You know, a couple of things that
are coming out of the Internet.I said this many times, is that
while the Internet is one of thegreatest things that ever happened in humankind,
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I said, you know, thediscovery or the control of fire, the
wheel, the Gutenberg Press, youknow, the press itself printing press.
And then we go on and onthe computers, and then beyond computers AI,
which is going to change the wayhumanity already is. But just I
mean, it's just crazy what's goingto happen. But that's all the good
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stuff, right, and then wego to all the negative stuff, because
this is where conspiracy theorists go towork. Without the Internet, conspiracy theorists
wouldn't exist. Yeah, it usedto be back before AI, back before
the computer I go back far enoughwhere the computer conspiracy theories really didn't exist.
The crazy people would be down onthe street corner with a bullhorn,
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screaming at cars passing those they're holdinga big sign, holding a big sign.
Yeah. And now today, lookat what's going on where modern medicine
is being categorically denied and questioned.I mean, the elections are all fake.
It's all because of the Internet.So we're now looking at well,
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the fentanyl crisis. But me askyou, because right now this issue of
the sextortion and the mental health ofteenagers and vulnerability, has it's the fentanyl
crisis dropped at all? Or isit just we just are looking at something
else right now? I think it'swhat's happened is it's become more normalized.
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And that's the sad part about itwhen it you know, fentanyl's only been
as an illicit drug. Has onlybeen around since like twenty thirteen, so
it's a fairly new illicit drug.It's been in the medical field for a
long time, and it's used asa you know, as a sedative.
But fentanyl, I think the dangersof fentanyl are so understated. I don't
you know, I see these campaigns, we have news stories about it.
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You know, a granule of fentanylcan kill instantly, and it's it's such
a deadly, deadly chemical. It'sa it's a chemical opioid, and I
think people are numb to it andthey're just they're just used to it now.
They see it in the story.It's like everything else. We get
complacent. We see it over andover and over in the news or like
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another Fentel story, another Fentel story. But people don't realize that is really
taking a stronghold in our society andour young people, and the cartels in
Mexico who are basically the primary creatorsof the opioid, the chemical opioids what
they call precursor chemicals are coming fromChina and they're coming over in boatloads,
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literally boatloads of this chemicals coming toMexico. They manufacture it in little tiny
pills to make it look like alegitimate pharmaceutical pill, and then they're bringing
it up across the California Mexico.You're talking about it's pure fentanyl. No,
not pure fentanyl. There, it'salways mixed ship Typically it's always mixed
with another drug, even if it'sjust a placebo or an aspirin. So
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you're so you're taking basically fentanyl.It's it's not something laced with fentanyl.
It is fentanyl laced with something else. No, no, it's the other
way around. So it's typically somethinglaced with fentanyl because fentanyl becomes a filler.
It's it's a quick hive. Theproblem is these these manufacturers in Mexico,
they don't understand the strength of it. They don't care about the strength
of it. It's cheap, it'scheap to manufacture, and it's cheap to
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haul, and so it's a lowrisk, high reward proposition for the cartels
and that's why they do it.Yeah, so what over one hundred thousand
people dying every year of fentanyl overdoses, and it's or opio or even overdoses,
with fentanyl being the number one ohin La County, we have one
of the highest mortality rates to fentanylin America. It's even to the point
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I was reading the other day someonemade a point of the fact that one
of the reasons why our longevity longevityrate in the United States is actually dropping.
In other words, we it wasseventy six points something years now it's
seventy four point something years. Thatis one of the big, big reasons
because so many people are dying ofthe fentanyl and opioid overdoses. I mean,
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it's crazy, beyond crazy. Well, the pandemic had a lot to
do with that. Yeah, that'strue. That's one of the things the
experts talk about, especially the parentstalk about in this special that how their
kids were in lockdown for two yearsand had no outlet, and so they
turned to social media, and theyturned to snapchat, and they turned to
online gaming, they turned to thecomputer for their for their social behavior and
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activity. And we're gonna be studyingthis one for a while, Okay,
then we're going to feel the Impacts. Okay, this special airs Sunday at
Too True and that's the first firstpart, and then the following Sunday at
two second part four hours of thisand award winning stuff. By the way,
Steve, you only won what elevenGolden Mics this last time? Well
if yeah, well, if youcount the team ones, I think Jake
and I we got five together,and then I think I got total of
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nine. Yeah, so yeah,you get sort of sick. You see,
everybody else is he's carting these awayin shopping cards. Steve is the
only person that actually brings a shoppingcart into the Golden Michael Awards. That's
Oh, a couple of homeless peopledo, but they're not fil Okay,
a couple of homeless people do withtheir clothes, and you do it for
the Golden Mics. You're so bad, all right, Steve, have a
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good weekend, you too. Saturdayor Sunday two to o'clock, two o'clock,
and then tomorrow at seven, rightSunday at two right seven? I
know, unsolved tomorrow at seven twoo'clock on Sunday. All right, world
in review? What happened? Ialways do this on Frite under a Rock.
Well, here's what you've missed,piping hotch off the newswires from around
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the corner to around the world.This is this week's world in Review.
All right, both national, international, local stories. And I want to
start with a couple of national stories, one of them being coming up on
Monday. Jury selection begins in thecriminal trial in New York for the hush
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money case, in which former PresidentTrump is accused of paying hush money to
Stormy Daniels to keep her from talkingjust prior to the election. And basically
you can't do that, and he'sbeing tried criminally for that, and of
course he's denied it, denies evenknowing he or I think, And there's
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going to be there's gonna be fireworksthere as in any trial that Donald Trump
gets involved in, you're going tosee Michael Cohen, for example, who
is going to testify, and he'salready done prison time for lying for perjury.
I mean, it's just it's goingto be wild. Now. Trump's
lawyers have three times try to delaythe trial. Matter of fact, they're
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trying to delay all the trials untilafter the election. Well this one didn't
work. And not only is thejury selection starting and this is scheduled to
take weeks. Trump has to bethere, he has to be in court.
He can't go out and campaign.And so one or two things happened.
Either that is horrible for him,or it does the best thing that
ever happened to him. In manyways, the best thing, because that
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just proves his victimization. Look atthis, they're going after me, and
they're going after me means they're goingafter you because I am you. And
this is the govern going after us. All right, So that starts on
Monday. And then on a politicalfront, Mike Johnson, who is the
House Speaker, is on his waytomorrow Lago to suck up to Donald Trump,
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which is exactly what's going on,much like Kevin McCarthy did the whole
thing. Why because Donald Trump onehundred percent controls the entire Republican Party both
in the Senate and the House,less in the Senate, but certainly in
the House. And he does sobecause he can kick anybody out, any
Republican he can primary out, realsimple, you don't play, you don't
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toe the line, You're going tolose then next election in the primary,
because I'm going to back up someonewho's going against you? Who is my
uh sycophant? And so he justhe just has to call and it's done.
Remember the bipartisan bill for the bordersecurity was passed both sides, Republicans
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and Democrats, and Trump said,you're going to kill it to Mike Johnson.
Johnson killed it, just that,and it was And by the way
the reason was given it, itwas for political purposes. It was for
the sole purpose if not giving JoeBiden any credit. I mean, that's
it. Not for the good ofcountry. It's for politics. And it's
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just open, no problem. Everybodysays that. At the same time,
you've got Mike Johnson, who isin favor of aid to Ukraine, and
he said he's going to move forwardand try to push a bill in favor
of Ukraine aid. Republican Representative MargieTaylor Green warned him, you move ahead
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with that aid package, we're goingto vote to throw you out of the
speakership and you're going to be thrownout like Kevin McCarthy did or was.
And that one's gonna be a toughone for Marjorie Taylor Green. She is
backpedaling that a little bit, butonce again it's just those are the politics.
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Those are today. So and shehas unbelievable power. She is I
think, our second term only.And look at the power Marjorie Taylor Green
has and wields in Congress because she'spart of that huge or a huge,
tiny little right wing cabal. Andbecause the Republicans have such a thin thin
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majority four four seats, you canhave six or eight Republican Congress. People.
Just stop everything, not past anything, mind you stop anything for someone
in Oregon. A loan ticket forthe one point three to three billion Power
(17:44):
Paul jackpot has been sold, andthis is the fourth largest jackpot in the
history of the game. Used tobe when two three hundred million dollars was
just an unbelievable sum to win.Now I don't even think people pay attention
until it hits a billion. Whois it? We had a two billion
dollar winner last year, didn't we? Or those this year? Two billion
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dollars in the lottery. That's ahappy camper. Actually, you don't even
how does anybody who is not abillionaire who's worked for years and created,
or a fourteen year old tech entrepreneurthat can be worth eighteen billion dollars?
You know, between his fourteenth andfifteenth birthday. Other than that, you
know, how does anybody contemplate beingworth two billion dollars where the day before
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wasn't so the world in review thingsthat happened nationally, locally, internationally.
The Arizona abortion ruling. Man,this one really took everybody for a loop.
Not so much what the Arizona SupremeCourt did. It ruled on Tuesday
that the state has to adhere toa one hundred and sixty four year old
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law banning all abortions except in caseswhen it is necessary to the life of
a mother. Now that one iskind of weird, but it makes sense
legally because there were some statues orthere's twenty twenty statue that allowed abortion only
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up to fifty up to fifteen weeks, okay, and that's not the most
restrictive in the country, but itstill restricts abortion certainly. I mean,
California, it's a whole different animal. So, but that was predicated on
Roe v. Wade. So nolonger is that law really in effect.
So what the court said is tellyou what, there is no law about
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abortion except the eighteen sixty four law. That's the only law that exists,
and you have to adhere it toit because that's the law. And it
is so punitive because what is itabout. It says only for saving the
life of the mother. By theway, I don't even know what that
means. Does a pregnant woman haveto be on death's door before an abortion
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will be allowed? How about somekind of a syndrome, as I said
earlier, that could kill her?But it's not. It just could happen.
So all right, So what didthe court say? It's up to
the legislature to turn this around.You want to do it, you do
it. And assuming that it wasgoing to happen. Matter of fact,
the bill was brought up to repealthat law. The Republicans stopped at cold.
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That was yesterday. We're not repealingthat law. Welcome to politics,
all right. It is Neil andMarla who are filly in for Gary and
Shannon today. Hi Bill, Higuys or a guy. I can't say
guys anyware you ca hi guy andwoman. Don't take offense to that,
do you. It's not a questionof her taking offense. No. But
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Maya Angelou, the Great Maya Angelouhas told me when I said I interviewed
her, and she asked what wason tap the rest of the day,
and I said, mentioned my crewand I said to them, you guys,
and she said, let me stop. You please never say that phrase.
Okay, what because it was itwas there was a female there and
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a male specifically. Well, shesaid, it made it sound cheap.
That's like, you know, it'sbuilding walls between houses. No, that's
Robert Frost, So that doesn't work. There's something there. Big fences make
great neighbors. I think words change, okay, real quickly, and we're
gonna I'm going to end the showwith this. Okay, guys, is
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and now Marlowe, you didn't probablyknow this because in nineteen ninety four,
right after the OJ case, Ihad become friends with Mark Furman. Oh
I listened, Oh you did?Oh yeah, that great song? Oh
yeah, no, I heard it. And I'm going to end it with
this. This is the parody songthat Mark Furman of OJ fame saying about
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himself on this show in nineteen ninetyfour. I'm going to end it with
that. We're gonna not have Daryshe then, but we will have Neil
and Marley coming up and filling inand also Monday, I understand yes,
all right, guys, guys andgallas and boys and girls ladies. Yeah,
and tomorrow tomorrow it's Handle on theLaw, Marginal Legal Advice eight to
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eleven o'clock. Every time I hearmy name, it's always to get the
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blamer. They say the word Iused helped to free the juice. I'm
marked for, Manna. Come oh, jesuit to the N word. I
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was no stranger doesn't mean the evidenceis rearranged. I'm haunted daily memories of
that Lee Bailey. I'm marked Fromanad J O J. You killed Ron
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Go Maina. Now I'm the oneon the basia. I would have loved
to never have seen that glove.I'm marked for Mana. Jason. You've
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listening to the Bill Handle show.Well KFI AM six forty Bill Handle Here.
It is a Friday morning, Apriltwelfth. Boy, so much is
(00:24):
going on today. We did twosegments Petros and I did two segments on
the death of OJ and it's hispersonal relationship with OJ in my personal relationship
with Mark Furman. And so thatwas seven thirty to what seven thirty at
seven am and seven to twenty.Sorry, from seven to seven thirty.
(00:47):
All right, Steve Gregory is withus, and I always talk about Unsolved
with Steve Saturday night from seven tonine. However, Steve occasionally does specials.
Let me talk about a busy guywhen he's not overeating with me.
That's true, yea, when we'renot doing buffets. No, No,
(01:07):
it's just a little tough. Imean a lot. Okay, never mind.
I was gonna tell you the lasttime we had a buffet, but
it was a couple of weeks ago. It was a couple of weeks ago.
Now let's talk about that specially absolutely. Thanks, yeah, Bill.
So this Sunday at two pm,we're airing Sex drugs and social media.
We taped it on Tuesday, andit's two parts, so in total,
it's a four hour special split upinto two parts. Part one this Sunday.
(01:30):
Part two airs the Sunday after onthe twenty first at two pm.
And what we wanted to do wasexplore this problem, this issue where apps
and online access to drugs and reallydeep dark stuff. But kids have become
so vulnerable with apps and with allof these social media platforms and all of
(01:53):
these things that are happening at rapidfirepace, and parents don't know what to
do. They don't know how tostay ahead of it, they don't know
what and how to keep up.And so what we did is we broke
it down. So the first partthis Sunday really deals with sextortion, online
bullying and stuff like that. That'shuge news because that story broke yesterday about
sextortion and what the major platforms aremade is doing and what they came out
(02:16):
with and say, here are thesafeguards. Are the guardrails we're going to
put in. And what I heardand what I saw an interview with one
of the mothers who lost her childas a result of sex story, well
doesn't believe a word of what Metais doing. Well, that's what prompted
us to do the special because Iheard a very similar story from the Special
(02:36):
Agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigationshere in Los Angeles, Eddie Wong.
He told me a story about ayoung kid who thought he was having a
sort of an intimate online relationship witha young girl. We're talking like fourteen
years old. And when that escalator, the conversation escalated to where the boy
sent nude photos of himself. Well, it wasn't a fourteen year old girl
(03:00):
on the other end. It waslike, you know, some adult man
in his fifties in a foreign country. And that guy goes back and says,
listen, now I have your nudes. You better pay us a thousand
dollars. And the boy's freaking out. He said, if you're not,
I'm going to send this to yourpastor, your cup Scout leader, your
parents, your school teachers. Andthe kid doesn't know what to do,
so he said, okay, we'lltake three hundred dollars, get it from
(03:22):
your parents, whatever you can do. And it made the kid so distraught
he ended up killing himself, Imean. And so that was the impetus
for us to do this. Sothis first two hours on Sunday, we
talk with Agent Wong. We alsotalked with Pete Hush, he's the sergeant
with the Ela County sheriff Department's Fraudand Cybercrimes Bureau, about how pervasive it
(03:42):
is in Los Angeles County in southernCalifornia. It is crazy out there right
now. People don't understand it.It is going on as we speak,
this is happening. And also theonline bullying piece of this too, how
people are encouraging others to hurt themselvesand hurt others and pushing people to commit
suicide online in live, real time. So we talk about in the first
(04:02):
two hours, and then next weekon the following Sunday, we do the
drug component. And this one isheart wrenching because we bring in Sam Chapman
and Matt Kapaluta, both of whomlost their teenage children to fentanyl poisoning.
Sam Chapman's teenage boy fifteen years old, ordered what he thought was like a
(04:25):
Xanax type medication on Snapchat and itwas delivered to the house and by the
next morning was dead because it hadfentnel mixed in it. You know,
A couple of things I wonder aboutis I mean, we got two issues
going on, this extortion issue,which is affects people deeply. I think
there's a way around that night andit's happening with adults too, yes,
(04:46):
but kids it's even more vulnerable.So most the vulnerable kids. I mean,
you wish that these kids would go, hey, go ahead, you
know, I mean, there'll benude photos of me. I had a
relationship with you on the internet,all right, So what are they going
to do? You know, yourparents are going to disown you. I
mean, but they don't have thewherewithal to be that's underdeveloped mind. Yeah,
(05:06):
they don't understand that it's not thatbig a deal where you're going to
be ostracized for the rest of yourlife. Well, embarrassment, shame,
you know, in status. That'skids today, especially with social media.
So then we also talked to twoexperts. We talked to a guy out
of Ladera Ranch in Orange County.This guy is amazing. He was a
(05:28):
former school resource officer with the OrangeCounty Sheriff's Department, now has a company.
You know, he he talks alot about the issues he's dealing with
and how he goes around the countryand counsels school districts on how to deal
with these issues in school counselors andteachers. And then we also talk to
somebody with a software company called barkdot us and their software can be installed
(05:51):
on a kid's phone and it alertsparents. It's algorithms and it's AI,
has keywords and emojis, because that'sa whole language that adults don't know about.
Emojis is an entire different language thatkids speak online. And you would
be amazed at what the simplest littleicons in photos really mean. And so
(06:15):
we talk about that, we doa deep dive on it. We taped
it in our performance studio upstairs witha studio audience and it was basically parents
and parents brought their kids. Wehad educators in the audience. It was
an amazing taping. It was long, but it was worth it. And
again Part two will air this Sundayat two and Part two the following Sunday
at two. All Right, Stevehas a special airing this Sunday at two
(06:38):
pm. Steve, you normally hearUnsolved, which is a regular show you're
on kfive, seven and nine aton Saturdays. But occasionally Steve does a
special and they're pretty spectacular, theyreally are. This one is the two
part special and if you can remindus, and then I'm going to throw
some question. It's called sex,Drugs, and social media, and we
(07:00):
deep we go deep dive on theissues with sextortion, online bullying, you
know, just some of the reallydark, twisted things that are happening.
And it's the young people that arethe targets and the most vulnerable. So
we talked to not only parents,we talk to you know, law enforcement,
We talk to other experts on howparents can prepare themselves, what to
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look for, red flags, thingsof that nature, even some software that
can help them. And it's justthat this thing is so rampant right now
in southern California that we really feltlike we needed to give it some time
and really take our time withveloping.You know, a couple of things that
are coming out of the Internet.I said this many times, is that
while the Internet is one of thegreatest things that ever happened in humankind,
(07:45):
I said, you know, thediscovery or the control of fire, the
wheel, the Gutenberg Press, youknow, the press itself printing press.
And then we go on and onthe computers, and then beyond computers AI,
which is going to change the wayhumanity already is. But just I
mean, it's just crazy what's goingto happen. But that's all the good
(08:07):
stuff, right, and then wego to all the negative stuff, because
this is where conspiracy theorists go towork. Without the Internet, conspiracy theorists
wouldn't exist. Yeah, it usedto be back before AI, back before
the computer I go back far enoughwhere the computer conspiracy theories really didn't exist.
The crazy people would be down onthe street corner with a bullhorn,
(08:28):
screaming at cars passing those they're holdinga big sign, holding a big sign.
Yeah. And now today, lookat what's going on where modern medicine
is being categorically denied and questioned.I mean, the elections are all fake.
It's all because of the Internet.So we're now looking at well,
(08:48):
the fentanyl crisis. But me askyou, because right now this issue of
the sextortion and the mental health ofteenagers and vulnerability, has it's the fentanyl
crisis dropped at all? Or isit just we just are looking at something
else right now? I think it'swhat's happened is it's become more normalized.
(09:09):
And that's the sad part about itwhen it you know, fentanyl's only been
as an illicit drug. Has onlybeen around since like twenty thirteen, so
it's a fairly new illicit drug.It's been in the medical field for a
long time, and it's used asa you know, as a sedative.
But fentanyl, I think the dangersof fentanyl are so understated. I don't
you know, I see these campaigns, we have news stories about it.
(09:31):
You know, a granule of fentanylcan kill instantly, and it's it's such
a deadly, deadly chemical. It'sa it's a chemical opioid, and I
think people are numb to it andthey're just they're just used to it now.
They see it in the story.It's like everything else. We get
complacent. We see it over andover and over in the news or like
(09:52):
another Fentel story, another Fentel story. But people don't realize that is really
taking a stronghold in our society andour young people, and the cartels in
Mexico who are basically the primary creatorsof the opioid, the chemical opioids what
they call precursor chemicals are coming fromChina and they're coming over in boatloads,
(10:13):
literally boatloads of this chemicals coming toMexico. They manufacture it in little tiny
pills to make it look like alegitimate pharmaceutical pill, and then they're bringing
it up across the California Mexico.You're talking about it's pure fentanyl. No,
not pure fentanyl. There, it'salways mixed ship Typically it's always mixed
with another drug, even if it'sjust a placebo or an aspirin. So
(10:33):
you're so you're taking basically fentanyl.It's it's not something laced with fentanyl.
It is fentanyl laced with something else. No, no, it's the other
way around. So it's typically somethinglaced with fentanyl because fentanyl becomes a filler.
It's it's a quick hive. Theproblem is these these manufacturers in Mexico,
they don't understand the strength of it. They don't care about the strength
of it. It's cheap, it'scheap to manufacture, and it's cheap to
(10:56):
haul, and so it's a lowrisk, high reward proposition for the cartels
and that's why they do it.Yeah, so what over one hundred thousand
people dying every year of fentanyl overdoses, and it's or opio or even overdoses,
with fentanyl being the number one ohin La County, we have one
of the highest mortality rates to fentanylin America. It's even to the point
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I was reading the other day someonemade a point of the fact that one
of the reasons why our longevity longevityrate in the United States is actually dropping.
In other words, we it wasseventy six points something years now it's
seventy four point something years. Thatis one of the big, big reasons
because so many people are dying ofthe fentanyl and opioid overdoses. I mean,
(11:43):
it's crazy, beyond crazy. Well, the pandemic had a lot to
do with that. Yeah, that'strue. That's one of the things the
experts talk about, especially the parentstalk about in this special that how their
kids were in lockdown for two yearsand had no outlet, and so they
turned to social media, and theyturned to snapchat, and they turned to
online gaming, they turned to thecomputer for their for their social behavior and
(12:05):
activity. And we're gonna be studyingthis one for a while, Okay,
then we're going to feel the Impacts. Okay, this special airs Sunday at
Too True and that's the first firstpart, and then the following Sunday at
two second part four hours of thisand award winning stuff. By the way,
Steve, you only won what elevenGolden Mics this last time? Well
if yeah, well, if youcount the team ones, I think Jake
and I we got five together,and then I think I got total of
(12:28):
nine. Yeah, so yeah,you get sort of sick. You see,
everybody else is he's carting these awayin shopping cards. Steve is the
only person that actually brings a shoppingcart into the Golden Michael Awards. That's
Oh, a couple of homeless peopledo, but they're not fil Okay,
a couple of homeless people do withtheir clothes, and you do it for
the Golden Mics. You're so bad, all right, Steve, have a
(12:52):
good weekend, you too. Saturdayor Sunday two to o'clock, two o'clock,
and then tomorrow at seven, rightSunday at two right seven? I
know, unsolved tomorrow at seven twoo'clock on Sunday. All right, world
in review? What happened? Ialways do this on Frite under a Rock.
Well, here's what you've missed,piping hotch off the newswires from around
(13:15):
the corner to around the world.This is this week's world in Review.
All right, both national, international, local stories. And I want to
start with a couple of national stories, one of them being coming up on
Monday. Jury selection begins in thecriminal trial in New York for the hush
(13:41):
money case, in which former PresidentTrump is accused of paying hush money to
Stormy Daniels to keep her from talkingjust prior to the election. And basically
you can't do that, and he'sbeing tried criminally for that, and of
course he's denied it, denies evenknowing he or I think, And there's
(14:03):
going to be there's gonna be fireworksthere as in any trial that Donald Trump
gets involved in, you're going tosee Michael Cohen, for example, who
is going to testify, and he'salready done prison time for lying for perjury.
I mean, it's just it's goingto be wild. Now. Trump's
lawyers have three times try to delaythe trial. Matter of fact, they're
(14:26):
trying to delay all the trials untilafter the election. Well this one didn't
work. And not only is thejury selection starting and this is scheduled to
take weeks. Trump has to bethere, he has to be in court.
He can't go out and campaign.And so one or two things happened.
Either that is horrible for him,or it does the best thing that
ever happened to him. In manyways, the best thing, because that
(14:50):
just proves his victimization. Look atthis, they're going after me, and
they're going after me means they're goingafter you because I am you. And
this is the govern going after us. All right, So that starts on
Monday. And then on a politicalfront, Mike Johnson, who is the
House Speaker, is on his waytomorrow Lago to suck up to Donald Trump,
(15:15):
which is exactly what's going on,much like Kevin McCarthy did the whole
thing. Why because Donald Trump onehundred percent controls the entire Republican Party both
in the Senate and the House,less in the Senate, but certainly in
the House. And he does sobecause he can kick anybody out, any
Republican he can primary out, realsimple, you don't play, you don't
(15:37):
toe the line, You're going tolose then next election in the primary,
because I'm going to back up someonewho's going against you? Who is my
uh sycophant? And so he justhe just has to call and it's done.
Remember the bipartisan bill for the bordersecurity was passed both sides, Republicans
(15:58):
and Democrats, and Trump said,you're going to kill it to Mike Johnson.
Johnson killed it, just that,and it was And by the way
the reason was given it, itwas for political purposes. It was for
the sole purpose if not giving JoeBiden any credit. I mean, that's
it. Not for the good ofcountry. It's for politics. And it's
(16:19):
just open, no problem. Everybodysays that. At the same time,
you've got Mike Johnson, who isin favor of aid to Ukraine, and
he said he's going to move forwardand try to push a bill in favor
of Ukraine aid. Republican Representative MargieTaylor Green warned him, you move ahead
(16:40):
with that aid package, we're goingto vote to throw you out of the
speakership and you're going to be thrownout like Kevin McCarthy did or was.
And that one's gonna be a toughone for Marjorie Taylor Green. She is
backpedaling that a little bit, butonce again it's just those are the politics.
(17:02):
Those are today. So and shehas unbelievable power. She is I
think, our second term only.And look at the power Marjorie Taylor Green
has and wields in Congress because she'spart of that huge or a huge,
tiny little right wing cabal. Andbecause the Republicans have such a thin thin
(17:23):
majority four four seats, you canhave six or eight Republican Congress. People.
Just stop everything, not past anything, mind you stop anything for someone
in Oregon. A loan ticket forthe one point three to three billion Power
(17:44):
Paul jackpot has been sold, andthis is the fourth largest jackpot in the
history of the game. Used tobe when two three hundred million dollars was
just an unbelievable sum to win.Now I don't even think people pay attention
until it hits a billion. Whois it? We had a two billion
dollar winner last year, didn't we? Or those this year? Two billion
(18:08):
dollars in the lottery. That's ahappy camper. Actually, you don't even
how does anybody who is not abillionaire who's worked for years and created,
or a fourteen year old tech entrepreneurthat can be worth eighteen billion dollars?
You know, between his fourteenth andfifteenth birthday. Other than that, you
know, how does anybody contemplate beingworth two billion dollars where the day before
(18:33):
wasn't so the world in review thingsthat happened nationally, locally, internationally.
The Arizona abortion ruling. Man,this one really took everybody for a loop.
Not so much what the Arizona SupremeCourt did. It ruled on Tuesday
that the state has to adhere toa one hundred and sixty four year old
(18:53):
law banning all abortions except in caseswhen it is necessary to the life of
a mother. Now that one iskind of weird, but it makes sense
legally because there were some statues orthere's twenty twenty statue that allowed abortion only
(19:14):
up to fifty up to fifteen weeks, okay, and that's not the most
restrictive in the country, but itstill restricts abortion certainly. I mean,
California, it's a whole different animal. So, but that was predicated on
Roe v. Wade. So nolonger is that law really in effect.
So what the court said is tellyou what, there is no law about
(19:36):
abortion except the eighteen sixty four law. That's the only law that exists,
and you have to adhere it toit because that's the law. And it
is so punitive because what is itabout. It says only for saving the
life of the mother. By theway, I don't even know what that
means. Does a pregnant woman haveto be on death's door before an abortion
(20:00):
will be allowed? How about somekind of a syndrome, as I said
earlier, that could kill her?But it's not. It just could happen.
So all right, So what didthe court say? It's up to
the legislature to turn this around.You want to do it, you do
it. And assuming that it wasgoing to happen. Matter of fact,
the bill was brought up to repealthat law. The Republicans stopped at cold.
(20:21):
That was yesterday. We're not repealingthat law. Welcome to politics,
all right. It is Neil andMarla who are filly in for Gary and
Shannon today. Hi Bill, Higuys or a guy. I can't say
guys anyware you ca hi guy andwoman. Don't take offense to that,
do you. It's not a questionof her taking offense. No. But
(20:42):
Maya Angelou, the Great Maya Angelouhas told me when I said I interviewed
her, and she asked what wason tap the rest of the day,
and I said, mentioned my crewand I said to them, you guys,
and she said, let me stop. You please never say that phrase.
Okay, what because it was itwas there was a female there and
(21:07):
a male specifically. Well, shesaid, it made it sound cheap.
That's like, you know, it'sbuilding walls between houses. No, that's
Robert Frost, So that doesn't work. There's something there. Big fences make
great neighbors. I think words change, okay, real quickly, and we're
gonna I'm going to end the showwith this. Okay, guys, is
(21:32):
and now Marlowe, you didn't probablyknow this because in nineteen ninety four,
right after the OJ case, Ihad become friends with Mark Furman. Oh
I listened, Oh you did?Oh yeah, that great song? Oh
yeah, no, I heard it. And I'm going to end it with
this. This is the parody songthat Mark Furman of OJ fame saying about
(21:52):
himself on this show in nineteen ninetyfour. I'm going to end it with
that. We're gonna not have Daryshe then, but we will have Neil
and Marley coming up and filling inand also Monday, I understand yes,
all right, guys, guys andgallas and boys and girls ladies. Yeah,
and tomorrow tomorrow it's Handle on theLaw, Marginal Legal Advice eight to
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eleven o'clock. Every time I hearmy name, it's always to get the
(22:37):
blamer. They say the word Iused helped to free the juice. I'm
marked for, Manna. Come oh, jesuit to the N word. I
(23:03):
was no stranger doesn't mean the evidenceis rearranged. I'm haunted daily memories of
that Lee Bailey. I'm marked Fromanad J O J. You killed Ron
(23:36):
Go Maina. Now I'm the oneon the basia. I would have loved
to never have seen that glove.I'm marked for Mana. Jason. You've
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