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You're listening to KPI AM six fortythe Bill Handles show on demand on the
iHeartRadio apps. I mean, Ionce was on a japan Airline flight of
seven forty seven and the pilot,who was about four foot eight, walks
into the cockpit with a phone bookunder his arm, and I went,

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oh, this is going to begood, and now handle on the news,
ladies and gentlemen, here's Bill handle. Hey, good morning everybody.
If Bill Handles here. It isa Thursday morning, April eighteenth, already,
and I heard Amy start the newscast. First time I've ever heard you

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ever, because I always I'm alwayspreparing for the show. And man,
I got to tell you. Youriveted me. You know when you start,
hey, we have a lot ofnews today. And then I stopped
listening. And it has nothing todo with your broadcast. It has to
do with I have to read thisstuff because I've got all the stories to
read. I have to and Ijust finished reading the papers and I have

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to read Handle on the news.So it's a fair amount, right,
It's about an hour for me.So Amy is one of many women you
turn off every day. Oooh okay, already, look at this glad we
start the show and you're already attackingme. Wow, it's my coffee.

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I understand. We were talking beforethe break with Neil. He went yesterday
at Disneyland. I had said thatyesterday morning when Petros was shilling in for
you, and I said, whathappened? You know? I was Disney
and he goes, great, hespent the night mortgage the house, stunning
mid week Disneyland. I'm assuming itwasn't a junior suite or a suite,

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it was a regular room, right, yeah, we don't need it.
There's three of us. Yeah,yeah, how much? Was it?
Five something? With taxes and everythingelse, it came to about seven hundred
for the room. Seven hundred dollars. And you know what, we're pass
holders. Not the highest level anymore, but we're pass holders and we do
that very very rarely. It justis a nice thing because we went to

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the Star Wars night and then thenext day. It just is a nice
way to do it. But thatis that. Literally, we may do
that once a year at most,but it's a nice way to do it
if you can, and it's worthsaving up for no, it is worth
a treat. And by the way. As you are walking along the various

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parts of the park, you thinkof the starving kids in the world that
if you took that seven hundred dollarsand you know how many kids you could
feed? Are you probably one ofthe worst human beings I've ever met?
Judging me? Well, you knowbecause the only different and says you,

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you, in addition to taking theirfood, would take their handicap spot.
So I don't know why you're judgingme. Well, I don't take handy
pap handicap spots from starving people.You would take them from whomever. You
would take them from your starving mother. Oh yeah, that's a given.
Okay, I think it's time Amy, good morning, Hi, Hi Cono,

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Good morning, Hi Bill uh andand good morning, Good morning,
Bill, good morning. We're gonnastart with, Gee, we have a
lot of news today. There isa lot of news. Why is that
a bad thing to I love Amy'swake up call. I do, just
do it. This is wake upcall, good way to start. I

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consider it starting dinner with the goodstuff and then ending with the empty plate
that is the Bill handle show.Yeah, do you say grace instantly?
Neil on occasion? Yeah, beforedinner I don't do form We don't do
formal dinners at our house for themoment, no thank you, We don't

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thank you for the food we're aboutto eat. We had a board operator,
and I don't want to go intonames, but a very very staunch
religious person who always said grace.And as always, when someone comes aboard,
I take that person to lunch atleast once, a matter of fact,
only once to say hello. Andliterally he is sitting there and he

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is seeing saying grace, thank youfor the food, and I'm looking at
him and I take out my creditcard. Hey, whose name is on
this credit card? Okay? Boy? Yeah? Is it mine? Real
quick? How about thanking me forlunch? What do you think? Huh?
Connor? Yes, has he takenyou out? Not for anything.

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He hasn't given me anything yet.I'll get there. How long you been
with us, cono? A year? Oh well, we'll get there,
all right, guys, a year, that seems. And have I taken
you out? Yeah? A coupleof times? Actually, Okay, Amy,
have I taken you out? Not? In about twelve years? Okay,
Neil, You and I do itregularly. Yeah, I'm happy to

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give up some of my slots foranybody who wants something. Okay, all
right, so now you shame intoit. Cono and Amy, all right,
you've got lunch, all right,and I don't know where, but
do you have to be there?Good point, We just pay credit card.
Good for you. You know,you sit there and you say grace,

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thank you Bill for all this lovelyfood that we're about to eat.
Okay, guys, let's do it. Handle on the news, Amy King,
Neils of Adra and me lead story. And yesterday in front of the
two Senate committees, Boeing got nailedagain. There was well one whistleblower and

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another engineer who said that this isnot the Max nine, mind you,
the seven thirty seven Max nine.This is the dream Liner and the triple
seven airliner that being built by Boeing. And he said all kinds of corners
cut and even mentioned one incidence wherethe two parts did not meet. Two

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parts of the fuselage did not meet, and they jumped up and down on
the medal to actually make them meet. And he said these things are going
to fall apart. Boeing of coursesaid absolutely not. That's not true.
By the way, the whistleblower hadno evidence other than him saying that this
happened so well, well, hewas also saying that he couldn't. No

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one would let him file these right, these complaints. So how are you
going to have paperwork that's true?I mean you can't. He should have
taken pictures of the footprints that wouldhave helped. It's like those old dance
lesson with the shoes and the stepsand the one two three on the anyway,
we'll see. It's all Boying isgetting nailed. I mean nailed.

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You know. I'm off to Europecoming October. It's my annual trip that
I take, and I'm not flyinga Boeing plane. I'm on an air
bus. Did you check that whenyou were booking it. Yeah? I
was just told, you know,yeah it was originally a Boeing, and
I started going, oh, that'sa problem, and then we I found

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out it's an Airbus three eighty,you know, those massive airplanes that the
interior as big as the lobby inour building. If I hate the air
bus name, it just is it. It's like uh, air rickshaw or
it just seems like that. Likeit. I like the name it says,
call yourself Rocket of the Skies orsomething. It's like air bus.

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Okay, all right, all right, So what if you called nine one
one and no one answered, Well, it happened. Service in South Dakota,
Texas, Nebraska, and Nevada wasdown yesterday. Officials are saying they
they're not sure what caused it,but South Dakota, Nebraska, and Nevada

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are back online. Most of Texas'sthey say there's still some trouble spots.
But they said that during that timepeople could not call one nine one one,
or if they did call, nothinghappened. They did say that you
could still text nine one one,which is a newer service, and people
could still call to their local agencies. But nine one not working. Hey,

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I have a question. Why isthis a story? When it's working
and you call nine one one andnothing happens? You know what? As
sassy as that is, does thathappen? Oh yeah sometimes? Oh yeah,
you can be on hold uh fora long time on nine to one
one. You call. Let's saythere's a car action. I've done this

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right where I call nine one oneand well a lot of people are calling
simultaneously. When you finally get through, they say thank you very much.
The phone, the call has alreadybeen made. But I'll tell you what's
really distressing. You call nine oneone and you hear a recording. Your
call is very important to us.Uh, just hang on the line and
we'll get to you as soon aswe can. Your waiting time is over

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five minutes. It's it's rough.They too many calls go through. Oh
yeah them and all, oh it'scrazy. But I will tell you I
called one time because there was anarmed guy with a knife staying between my
garage and my next door neighbor's garageand I found him and I called.
And it was three hours later orsomething like that when they got there and

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they said the two cops looked annoyedand the I said, sorry, we
were at a murder. Were murder? Yeah, But my reply was,
I get it, but that guy'sdead. I was looking to prevent one,
right, and the way to doit, the way to do what
you say, there's an active shooter, people are down, That's that's how

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you get them out of trouble.Not only that may be, but I'll
tell you that's the only thing that'sgoing to get them out. Also,
people to call nine to one oneand are frivolous calls are not nailed.
That should be a felony. Youcall that. What's the weather like?
They've had calls like that on aregular basis. I need a corn bread

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recipe, by the way, thatis, there has been a call like
that. I did a story onthat one. I have no idea a
jilapino cornbread which is of neat,don't give that little spice to it.
But they are, they are overburdened. Use they are. Sometimes we try
and call the non emergency for ninetynine point nine percent of the stuff.
But every once in a while yougot to go the person's here and it's

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not good, all right. TheUnited States and the European Union just said
on Tuesday that they were considering afresh round of sanctions against Iran. They're
looking at targeting the country's missile anddrone program. There. Meanwhile, you've
got Natanyahu say saying, I wantto make this clear, we will make
our own decisions. So yep,Nata who he has to kowtow to the

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hard right government, the various membersof the cabinet, and so they're going
to go after Iran and continuing on. They're still taking out buildings and killing
people in Gaza. I mean,that hasn't stopped. It just is it's
basically old news unfortunately, going afterHamas over and over again until Hamas has

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taken out and you've got the entireworld at this point nailing Israel. And
as I said, before this warstarted, Israel and as far as the
world is concerned, October eighth,not October seventh, everybody's forgotten the attack
on Israel. It's just this unprovoked, unbridled attack on Gaza. I mean,

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it's a little bit of hyperbole here, but still and next out who
says, too bad, We're goingafter it. Now, keep in mind,
look what Iran did on this one. It, according to reports,
it told its allies it's going toattack Israel. It launched these missiles,
particularly the drones and the rockets.It takes hours to get to Israel,

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and most vast majority of those rocketsand missiles and drones were taken out before
they even got over Israeli airspace,plenty of time. So Iran, and
before the last missile was actually arrivedin the area in your Israel had said
this is it. We're not goingto go beyond that, and it doesn't
matter because you attack Israel. Firsttime that Iran has actually attacked Israel per

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se the sovereignty the sovereign land ofIsrael. So you're going to see a
retaliation twice. Now there was aplanned retaliation and they backed up for a
backed away from it because of thepressure, because they have to be very,
very careful, and even the Natanyahugovernment is saying, this is going
to be measured, it's going tobe proportional, and usually you don't see

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that an eighteen sixty four ban stands. The Republican controlled House of Representatives in
Arizona has failed again to advance arepeal of the state's one hundred and sixty
year old abortion ban. This comesdays after the state Supreme Court revived the
laws that it could be enforced.The earliest it would be enforced would be

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June, But following two attempts todiscuss a bill that would repeal the eighteen
sixty four ban on abortionsz AW makersvoted not to discuss the measure on the
House floor. A long party linesright there, and I got to tell
you the pro life people are goingto get bitten in the ass on this

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one. That this goes way waytoo far, and you've got it's going
to go up on a ballot inNovember, and in the Seven States where
even in red states where there wasa measure that restricted the restrictions on abortion,
the pro abortion measures, it wonoverwhelmingly in all seven states. So

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you're going to see this is gonnathis is really going to hurt the Republicans,
and there's huge backlash, especially somethingthis crazy. You can only have
abortion to save the life of themother eighteen sixty four eighteen. This just
in in Arizona. Death penalty ifyou steal a man's horse is. By

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the way, here's a little factoid. The bill that was written is almost
word for word copied from a Californiabill. It actually came out of California,
which of course is the red ofthe bluest of the blue states out.
Yeah, but we've had that redactedfor some time, or well,
it was overturned because it's in theconstitution. I mean, of course,

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of course that was over ten decadesand decades and decades ago, but California
now it's in the constitution where ifyou are pregnant you must aboard or you
do present prison time. They're liberal. You shouldn't. Yeah, you kind
of have to. Is that whatit is? Yeah? Oh boy,
yeah you got. You've got toeradicate any laws that were made when medical

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tools were made out of wood.I think, yeah, safe across the
board. All right, So,uh, out of the WTF file.
Even though California leads the nation inhuman trafficking reported cases, that is,
soliciting a minor for sex is onlya misdemeanor in California, and they're going
they want to, you know,change that to a felony. Think so,

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I mean it is c liberals againstthis, saying it's over broad,
Well, it's too punitive. Wellyou have to think, well, what
does that mean to solicit Oh no, there's definitions of soliciting. Okay,
so the definition because that's across theboard. I mean, I have to
prove solicitation. But okay, sohow could that be too broad? If

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you have to prove that that tookplace, and it did take place,
then who gets hurt? I don'tunderstand this. I don't get what they're
saying. Now. The only argumentI can make on behalf of it.
If you can argue this, whichI think is it goes on both sides.
Is that sex offenders of any kindare not allowed within five hundred or

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a thousand feet of any park,of any place where kids congregate, congregate,
and they're saying, there's no placefor us to live. What what
are we going to have to dowith solicitating them? No, No,
I'm saying in terms of sex offendersin general, it's the they say we
have no place to live, whichis true. I mean they should,
they should all live in a militarycamp. But how do they eat?

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Are they going to be on welfare? All I'm saying is there are repercussions
to all of this. There areunintended or consequences to everything we do.
That's all I'm not defending. I'mnot defending. Do you understand. No,
No, We're all staring at youfor totally other reasons. Okay,
fair enough. One hundred million dollarsfor one hundred victims. The US Justice

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Department is going to pay one hundredmillion dollars to one hundred victims a former
Team USA doctor Larry Nasser over theFBI's failure in the investigation. Once this
deal is finalized, it should endthe last of the legal claims against institutions
involved in the NASA investigations, thepayouts, payouts nearly a billion dollars.

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Wow, that's three hundred and eightymillion dollars in settlements with both USA Gymnastics
and the US Olympic and Paralympic Committee. And five hundred million dollars a settlement
with Michigan State University or Michigan Statein twenty eighteen. How do they come
up with half a billion dollars?How does Michigan State? I mean,

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you can see the Justice Department,that's easy. But you have the USA
Gymnastics, in US Olympic and ParaicOlympic Committee. How do they come up
with three hundred and eighty million dollars? These are nonprofits. Yeah, I
think they're all playing the lotto.Yeah, I mean it's probably. I'm

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sure it's structured over the next twentythirty years. I mean, and they're
not writing a check. But eveneven so, it's it's pretty astounding.
It just seems like there's the numberskeep going up on everything. Well,
this is hearing these astronomical numbers.You know, jo Well, I took
a sight about the lotto, buteven that is I know, I went

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to Carls Junior the other day.I couldn't believe the prices. Numbers just
keep on going up and out,these settlements of hundreds of million dollars,
the cost of a Carls Junior burger. It's out of control. Well,
let's move baked, all right,Speaker of Mike Johnson, as you know,
you've been getting it in the shorts. He announced yesterday that he's sticking

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with his plan to put a seriesof foreign aid bills on the floor,
including funding for Ukraine. But man, he's getting significant pressure from very vocal
hardliners on this. Well, youalready have two well Marjorie Taylor Green introduced
the articles to vote him, votehim out of speakership. Now that she

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counts one, or do all thedifferent voices in her head count as well,
said, you've got another representative whohas joined her one more. The
vote happens, and it's a loselose for Mike Johnson. He will not
be tossed as the Speaker because therewill be some Democrats that will vote to
keep him in. Hakim Jeffries,who is the minority leader, has already

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said you got to keep him in. So you'll see a number of Democrats.
So he's not being removed. Nowyou've got Marjorie Taylor Green and the
hardliner saying that Mike Johnson is reallya Democrat, he is not a Republican.
And why is that? Because you'vegot a philosophy on the hard right
in the House that says, ifyou vote in, if you vote in

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lockstep, or if you vote foranything that the Democrats vote for, you
basically are a traitor to the partyand you are a rhino Republican in name
only. It is completely insane.And if they toss Mike Johnson out,
I mean, that's the Republicans,and that shuts down Congress. By the
way, if there is no speaker, the House just shuts down. Literally,

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the House shuts down. It cannotmove forward with anything. I mean,
the Republicans are nuts. Well,it was over before it started.
The Senate has rejected both articles ofimpeachment delivered by the House against Homeland Security
Secretary Alejando Majorcis. The article articlescharged Mayorcis with ignoring the law and breaching

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public trust because he didn't enforce immigrationlaws. Democrats say, you know what,
that's a policy dispute. It doesnot rise to high crimes and misdemeanors
as required for impeachment. So theybasically said, nope, we're tossing it
out, not voting on it.Senate Majority leader or minority leader. Sorry,
Mitch McConnell said, by doing whatwe just did, we have an

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effect ignored the directions of the House, which was to have a trial.
Right, So what they want isRepublicans want a full trial. Shutting down
the Senate because every senator has tobe there. Uh and and kill that's
over. The Senate shuts down.Uh and high crimes and misdemeanors to these

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people is not following the law.Although my orcis is under the orders and
supervisions of the president. He reportsto the president, So it is the
president's policy. Why not impeach thepresident for that, for not following the
law? Why wouldn't you do that? It's it is where's the high crimes
and mis degreeners here? It's apolicy, it's a we don't want to

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enforce it. Uh. And thisthing just shut down. I mean there's
they wouldn't have even gotten a majority. They wouldn't have gotten a majority,
and you need two thirds to impeachor to uh yes to uh to remove
a senator or a congress person.I mean, it's just it's insanity,
all of this here again the Republicans, and one of the hardliners was asked,

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why would you even do this knowingthat there is no chance, and
he said, we have to stay, we have to stand firm on the
law. And it's a question ofconscious. You know, Bill Clinton getting
impeached, it was crazy. Therewas no chance he was going to win.
Donald Trump being impeached twice, whyhe wasn't going to lose and he

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didn't lose. You can't get twothirds, you know you have to do
to get two thirds is you haveto literally steal in bezel money, have
sex with a chicken in front ofthe rest of the senators and congress people,
and a lot of them would enjoyit. It's not just the Republicans,
man, No, No, it'sboth sides. Sides. Oh,

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I know. But even the laststory when you were saying, you know,
the Republicans, what you've got theminfighting too? Oh yeah, that's
the whole point. It's all republicand they're no party anymore. There's four
parties within the Democratic uh, andthere's four parties at least in the Republican
you had right now, the RepublicanParty has been completely co opted, have

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you sorr, the aocs and thesquad on one side, well the Marjorie
Taylor Greens on the other. Theyhave not co opted the entire party AO
tride. You can try all youwant. The Republicans, the hard right
has co opted like Trump. Ifthey had, I'm confident somebody as militant

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and focused as Trump is they'd followthat line too. If my grandmother had
balls, she'd be my grandfather.I met your grandmother, she doesn't.
She did. So the Anaheim CityCouncil they've given its preliminary approval of a
measure allowing for the massive one pointnine billion with a B expansion of Disneyland.

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This is of course known as DisneylandForward. You've been hearing about this.
So for the most part, Bill, if you haven't seen the breakdown,
most of this is on land thatthey already own that they're going to
be changing Disneyland, but some ofit will be in you know, they
pay about forty million to buy MagicWay, Hotel Way, and part of

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Clementine Street from the city to helpthis go over. The next you know,
it'll be a forty year agreement,and I think they'll start probably with
the next thirty to forty days orsomething like that, start some of this
planning. But they're going to obviouslybrand new attractions, even a couple of
new lands. For example, shopsunderstand that disney is opening money Land,

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where you just walk in, youpay them money, and then you walk
out, and it's a full moneywhen it's crowded, so it's dynamic.
Tells you Moneyland, I will tellyou though, it still is the best
bang for your buck. It's clean, they've got great food and drinks,
you can see plays, you cansee movies, you can enjoy the attractions,

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you know, and stay there allday. Right. And when Disneyland
opened nineteen fifty five, it wasa dollar for adults to get in there,
fifty cents for kids, and youhad to pay for your round.
You had to pay for your rides, although you got the little coupon book
and it ended up costing you,I don't know, two three bucks ahead
to go to Disneyland, which bythe way, was a lot of money,

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there's no question, a lot moremoney it is today. That's the
equivalent today of forty fifty bucks perperson, just saying yes. But you
know what, you'll pay three hundredand fifty dollars to go see a two
hour concert. That's true. Imean it's so cool. Figure it depends.
It's one hundred dollars to go tothe movies these days, and you've
got an extraordinary you have an extraordinarynumber of rides, nothing like it was

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in the fifties. So come on, are you Mickey Mouse? Come on
now? Yeah? And I'm excitedabout money Land, and I hope the
wait isn't too long to go inthere and just whip out your wallet and
then leave. They already have acharacter. If you really want a money
Land, it's oh yeah, duckyeah yeah, or we like to call
them handle duck. Yeah. Speakingof Disney, Mickey may become a union

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mouse. The parade and character castmembers have filed for a vote to unionize,
probably going to vote next month orJune. There's seventeen hundred. Who
are the characters, you know,the mckeys and minis and also the people
who perform on the parades. Theywant better wages, benefits, scheduling and
better working conditions. Yeah, Imean it's tough. Although it's not bad

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pay, but it's not enough tolive on. And those characters, man,
that's a rough ride, those charactersbecause you have little kids just kicking
you in the nards and you know, twisting your head off, and you've
just got to be you can't kickthem back. Wow. True, see
things very differently. No, no, no, that's absolutely true. I

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talked to some of them are alittle rough. And you know what,
quite honestly, it's not always thekids, Disney adults are worse than the
kids these days. Why are youlooking at me, Neil? We basically
we're looking at each other. Ibehave mostly m So the Supreme Court has
made it easier for workers who aretransferred from one job to another. This

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is against their will, will,by the way, to pursue job discrimination
claims. So this federal civil rightslaw is basically for those people who are
not demoted or docked pay, butthey're still forced to move to another in
this case a department because it hadto deal with a Saint Louis police sergeant.
But forcibly transferred, you have alittle more rights. Yeah, which

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is surprising for the Supreme Court.It was unanimous, and what they're saying,
is this is discrimination under the law? Right? So I think it
is, but I'm surprised that theSupreme Court ruled that way. I wonder
if forcing me to do this everyMonday through Friday, if that's a yeah,

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does he have a case? Okay, this story is the bee's knees
if you ask me. Yeah,okay. So a team of scientists,
we're doing some research on bumblebees andthey made a startling discovery, and that
is that bees can survive underwater forup to a week. What. So
they were at Canada's University of Guelph. I'm not sure if that's how you

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pronounce it, and they had ahibernating queen bumblebee. They accidentally submerged her.
I don't know how that accidentally happens, but they found her a week
later and said, oh my god, she's still alive. That's pretty impressive.
There's fair And yeah, bumblebees canlast you know, the in the

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and they breathe there, so figurethat one out. So did they hold
their breath for a week. Doesn'tsay they have to. They go into
some state of hibernation, I guess, and they don't the oxygen in their
system is enough. Who knows,But they have all sorts of accidental discoveries.
You know, the story of themicrowave or that scientist walked through and

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then the chocolate melted in his pocket. By the way, that is a
complete myth. Yeah, one hundredpercent made up by some writer that did
a story and readers digest it isnot true. They knew what microwaves did

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and it was part of their radarsystems in World War Two that Raytheon developed.
And there's a whole story, matterof fact, and and story of
the microwave oven and other technologies thatmyths about them. This one the show

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right now. Huh, you know, she's I know, I tell her
this is These are great topics,sometimes during the show, sometimes off the
show. That's a great that isa great topic, myth, complete myth,
trust me. If it would meltthat chocolate bar in your pocket.
There was other bigger worries. Yeah, just next door. Yeah, that's
where M and M's uh you knowthey got, you know, melted melts

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in your pocket, not in yourmouth. The Haiku stairs, oh landmark
they called the Stairway to Heaven.They're removing them. That was what was
that World War Two when they putthose up. Yeah, that's what it
says. I didn't know that.By the way, I should have said
I knew that. Wow. So, so the US Navy built these stairs
and back in the eighties. Theymade it illegal to trespass there in nineteen

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eighty seven, but since the ageof social media, people are still trespassing
to get pictures or things like that. So they're just finally taking them out.
Four thousand steps. All right,guys, we are done. KFI
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