May 1, 2024 • 23 mins
Clashes break out at UCLA amid dueling protests between pro-Palestinian & pro-Israeli. Colleges are failing the free speech test. House GOP investigates funding for universities amid campus protests.
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You're listening to Bill Handle on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. You are
listening to the Bill Handle Show.This is Can'tfi Handle here with the Morning
Crew on Aday, Wednesday, Mayfirst, And I want to well,
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first of all, a lot goingon mid East Anthony Blincoln now and the
rest of the Mid East, anda lot of the world is calling out
Hamas listen, you got a deal, go for it. We haven't yet
heard from that. And former PresidentTrump was flying nine thousand dollars because he
keeps on violating the gag order toshut up, and he won't, and
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the judge is threatening to toss himin jail for that. Oh, wouldn't
that be interesting? And does hedo that because he wants that to happen,
to really enforce the concept that he'splaying the victim. Now as far
as the protests go, and that'sthe biggest story going on around the United
States right now, the protests thatare going on in colleges all over the
country. And I want to bringit local because initially UCLA was given tremendous
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kudos fort how it was handling theprotests as opposed to what was gone in
Columbia, for example, and inthe south, UCLA has now joined the
fray. It's part of everybody else. Blake Trolley is at UCLA right now,
and Blake, it's seven o'clock inthe morning and they're still hear me.
Yeah, I can hear you.Seven o'clock in the morning and there
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are people out there protesting. No. In fact, the vibe here on
campus is a lot different than whenI first arrived at about three point thirty
this morning. Keep in mind,build at the violence that have erupted here
on campus. Happened about eleven pmlast night when counter protesters ran up to
the pro Palestinian encampment and started removingbarriers, and this caused fights to break
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out on the line. And thenwe saw those fights escalate beyond just simple
fist fights into bear spray mace beingdeployed and fireworks being fired into the Pro
Palestinian camp. All of this happeningwhile security guards were overwhelmed. They stood
back, and we're seeing some reportsI put in an inquiry with the university
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that it actually took a couple,if not three hours for outside law enforcement
agencies to step in. They havesince stepped in. They set up a
barrier it's more than one hundred feetconstructed with metal fensing, and right now
there are officers standing in the middleof that, and the tensions are very
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common. Fact, you can hearthe birds chirping here on campus. The
counter protesters have left, and thepro Palestinian protesters I believe are sleeping,
just given the time and given thatthey were up all night all right,
So to make it clear, itwas the counter protesters, the pro Israeli
protesters, anti protesters who were usingthe bear spray and attacking the Pro Palestinian
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group. You know, when itcomes to the bear spray, it's very
unclear. It's very clear that fireworkswere being fired into the pro Palestinian camp.
Once it gets down to the fights. That's really hard to judge just
by the video because and really that'swhat we're going off. There's so much
video from the scene, and whenyou look and you comb through it,
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it's really hard to tell what's goingon because there's just so many scuffles,
so many random scuffles breaking out.That said, fireworks were clearly being launched
into the pro Palestinian camp, andthat is kind of interesting for a couple
of reasons. Number One, that'scontrary to what we're hearing about campuses all
over the country that counter protesters actuallybegan an altercation. And I'm assuming that's
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the case that Ucla. It wasnot the pro Palestinian protesters group. It
was the counter group that started thiswith the fireworks. Do I have that
right exactly? So the counter protestersstart removing that barrier, and as they
remove that barrier, then the proPalestinian protesters and the counter protesters they begin
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getting into physical fights. Okay.And the other thing I want to bring
up is that Ucla. That makessense that what happened at UCLA because UCLA
has a big Jewish population, bigJewish student population there. I mean,
La New York are the two Jewishcenters of this country. Also Miami where
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all the New York Jews go duringthe winter. But at this point,
was anybody, were anybody arrested,anybody dragged away? Did you see mass
arrests at this point? I wouldpresume some people were injured pretty bad.
We haven't heard any reports. There'sbeen no official reports on injuries or arrests,
but just by review of what Isaw, you know, when you
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collect all of this video, alot of it's still hitting social media.
There has to be people at leastat the very least pretty banged up walking
away from this. Some people weredropped to the ground and you would see,
you know, several people get ontop and start beating them up,
So I would assume people were injuredthere. I'm very curious to see if
there's going to be injuries reported outof the Pro Palestinian camp, especially with
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those fireworks exploding. I saw onevideo where firework goes into the camp and
you know, several seconds go byafter it lands on the ground, and
then you see it explode and yousee that, you know, the embers,
all the colors go into the air, and you hear people stream.
You really got to wonder if there'sany injuries there. Yeah, has it
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evolved into that. Were there arrestmade? Again, We're still waiting to
hear if any arrests were made.I did not witness any arrests. When
I came here. Officers were inriot gear, helmets down, and what
they were really working to do wassecure a barrier between the Row Palace Videan
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group and the pros Raili group.And keep in mind Bill I covered these
protests in Portland, similar protests intwenty twenty. And sometimes these arrests they
do come, you know, weeksafter security video or social media video is
reviewed. Yeah, and around thecountry it's the arrests are kind of eh,
no big deal, especially if astudent is truly engaged and believed,
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because it's a misdemeanor. You're goingto go to jail for a couple of
hours charges. It's a misdemeanor charge. It's the expulsion from school, and
that is going to cost them,especially the families that put up all this
money in life savings, especially theseprivate colleges. All Right, Blake,
I'm sure we're gonna hear from youthe rest of the day, especially if
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this thing gets a little more engagedwith the counter protesters and the protesters.
Thanks very much. All right,thanks Bill. All right, now,
he said the altercation actually started witha counter protesters when from the Israeli side
of the protest, fireworks were throwninto the pro Palestinian folks. And that's
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a little unusual. But there's anobed piece in the Atlantic about colleges and
free speech. So last year,i mean all over the country, New
York, Texas cops storm college campusesand they were in riot gear and they
were there to conduct mass arrests.Well, actually that's not true. Again,
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this is a free speech in theAtlantic dot Com is by a professor
who teaches at one of the colleges, and he talks about teaching students around
the country. The government can't silencespeakers because of their beliefs. And here
is where it is conflated. Idon't think there is any school out there
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that says you can't protest, notat all. Where the line is drawn
is protests and blocking entrances. Inthe case of a couple of schools,
commencement are going to be canceled.I mean, can you imagine that there
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were seniors that weren't able to graduateduring COVID and their scheduled to graduate now,
and the protesters have effectively said,you're not going to protest I heard
one, or you're not going tograduate. I heard one protester say it's
a small price to pay. Peopleare dying in Gaza and it's no big
deal for you not to graduate.Yeah, okay, good for you.
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And so I'm going to go backto the argument that universities are part of
the group that is shutting down FirstAmendments, First Amendment rights and rights to
protest. To me, it seemsso clear cut. I don't know where
the argument is. I don't knowwhat school is saying you cannot protest.
Even Greg Abbott of Texas is talkingof out how the students, the protesters,
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it should be shut down, andcertain elements in the school with anti
Semitic statements. He doesn't quite getit. But you're allowed to be anti
Semitic. You're allowed to protest anythingyou want. And as I said,
you're not allowed to disrupt. InColumbia, they have taken over the administration
building and I don't know if yousaw the video, but windows were broken.
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Notice that everybody is wearing masks,right, they're wearing those you know,
the Palestinian garb, the headgear.It looks like basically tablecloths from an
Italian restaurant, you know, theblack and white scarfs over their heads,
over their faces, and you can'trecognize them. And you know why,
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because I think they know that breakingwindows, storming buildings, stopping people from
entering, taking over an administration building, maybe that's not so good. It's
an easy answer if you want toprotest. What school is not going to
give you an area to protest there? It is happens all the time.
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You ask the school, This happensall the time with protesters asking the asking
authorities, we want to protest,and they say, okay, this is
the area go counter protesters. That'sthe area you go. They'll be a
zone in the middle, there'll bea dead man's zone, a demilitarized zone
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where you can protest. And insteadit has blown up. And here is
where the argument they're actually arguing.They're actually arguing that what the schools are
doing with calling the police violation ofFirst Amendment. One of the points that
are made in this article by againthis professor who is looking at schools and
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they are violating First Amendment rights,of which that's where you want to encourage
First Amendment is at the university level. So this is the University of Texas.
Officers arrested a whole group of protestersfor trespassing, but the students didn't
appear to have violated any school rules, and you can't trespass on a place
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where you have a right to be. And the next day the County Attorney's
office dropped all the press trespassing chargesfor lack of probable cause. I don't
quite get that because it isn't illegal, and isn't there a law in every
single jurisdiction that says you cannot interferewith egress? And what's the opposite of
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egress? Ingress? Total gress?Forgress anyway in and out. You can't
interfere with people going in and out. You can't interfere with the business that
the school or the business is doing. And so the argument on First Amendment
I think is insane. But you'regonna hear more and more of that,
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believe me, in this altercation acrossthe country. Is this thing, well,
we'll see how more serious it gets, how much more serious it gets.
And this looks like it may beblowing up, especially if Israel,
the Israeli armed forces invade Rafa.Oh are you going to see this go
crazy? Okay, Now this hasto do with House Republicans, And when
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it comes to the protests, thereare people that are obviously anti protests.
You got the Jewish group, proZionist group, You've got the protesters that
are pro Palestinian. And it lookslike never the Twain shall meet, and
a lot of folks are looking thisas a First Amendment issue. Others looking
at it as a straight, astraight criminal act. What's happening in Colombia,
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for example, where they have overrunand taken over and invaded the administration
building and they break windows and noone's coming in and it's clearly criminal.
Now, I want to spend amoment talking about the political side of this,
and this has to do with HouseRepublicans. And here's the politics of
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it. We have an election comingup where a third of the Senate is
running, all the congress people arerunning, and we have a presidential okay,
big year. And look at thegroups that both the Democrats and the
Republicans are going after. You've gotthe youth group, certainly young people that
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both Democrats and Republicans are going after, usually Democrats. And you have those
of the Hebrewic American persuasion in theUnited States Jews, who usually are Zionists.
There is a few who aren't.And don't confuse Zionism with Judaism.
Zionism has to do with the stateof Israel and establishing a political, sovereign
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country. Judaism is basically a religionwhich we're not talking about establishing a state.
Jews are all over the world,and I've historically talked about, you
know, Jews going back three thousandyears or thirty five hundred years and establishing
Israel. But today Zionism is aboutthe state of Israel. Judaism is about
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the religion, and so people tendto conflate that and that's not true.
You have Jews that are protesting inthe Palestinian camp, not arguing that Israel
shouldn't exist, but arguing that thiswar should end and Israel should get out
of Gaza. And genocide is goingon, which, by the way,
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it's not genocide. Genocide is eitherethnic cleansing or the wiping out of an
entire group of people. Hitler engagedin genie, the wiping out of Jews,
Turks engaged in genocide, the wipingout of Armenians over a million.
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What Israel is doing is not wipingout the Arab population or the Palestinian population.
Not a conservative effort to kill everysingle person there. Now. A
lot of people are dying, noquestion about it. A lot of argument
can be made against what Israel isdoing. And I, by the way,
join that group of people. Iam not thrilled with what Israel is
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doing. I think they're handling itvery wrong. I think too many people
are dying. And where I reallyhold Israel at fault is not letting in
humanitarian aid. That is the numberone issue. Number two issue is the
killing of all those civilians. Theproblem is Hamas embeds itself into civilians,
and if you're going after Hamas,then you're going after civilians. And the
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only way to save civilians from beingkilled, injured, devastated, holmes destroyed
is to not have Hamas there.And since they're there, do you walk
away and simply let Hamas do whatit's going to do. And as charter
calls for the destruction of Israel andno Jews in Israel's the Palestinian states,
So it gets a little complicated.Now. I want to continue on with
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the politics of what is happening atthe universities all over the country and the
demonstrations and the protests, and thishas happens to do happens to be with
the politics of the election coming upDemocrats versus Republicans, And this slays right
into the argument that out of theseprotests, anti Semitism is flowing out of
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this on the pro Palestinian side.And you have heard many times how Jews
have enormous power in this United Statesrelative to their population. I'm sure you
heard that myth, which happens tobe absolutely true. There is no question
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you have a huge number of majordon't and we got rich Jews out there.
I mean, it's that simple,you know. And you have very
very few Arabs Palestinians relative to notonly influence, but also the population in
America. So both sides of theIsle in Congress and a lot of us
are very very cognizant of anti Semitism, which is growing like crazy around the
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world, including the US. Andhere's what the House Republicans did yesterday.
They announced an investigation into federal fundingfor universities where students have protested and it
has gone into anti semitism, arguingthat the universities are not doing enough to
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protect the Jewish students. And we'rehearing report after report on virtually every campus
that Jewish students are frightened, theyfeel that well that their safety is at
issue. They are the victim ofvictims of anti Semitism, And to an
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extent that's true. I don't knowif it is universally, and it hasn't
come out yet because I think theprotesters are spending a lot more time and
effort dealing with a Palestinian issue relativeto anti Semitism. But the two can
be connected. And in fact,if you look at the protests growing and
the number of anti Semitic accusations growing, it's not hard to argue that they're
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not connected. So here is whatseveral House committees are doing. And keep
in mind the committees are chaired byRepublicans, and they're beginning a probe and
they're saying, if you the universitiesdon't do enough to protect the Jewish students
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their safety, which is your jobto protect students, here's what we're going
to do, and we are goingto cut out federal spending at the university
level. So how much influence doesthe federal government have on a private school
for example, Well, lots andlots and lots. For example, the
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Congress has the ability, the federalgovernment has the ability to stop issuing all
federally backed student loans at a givenuniversity, just say no, we're done.
School isn't complying with keeping students safe, And that is one of the
requirements on the big universities that havemajor medical centers Columbia, Ucla, Yale,
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Cornell where all all of these demonstrationsare taking place, Columbia worse than
other places, or the students moreinvolved than in other places. On the
side of the protests, every oneof them that has a major medical center
research center. Guess where they geta huge amount of money from federal government
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NIH grants. And if the governmentstopped funding those centers with the grants,
research would grind to a halt alot of power Congress has, and Congress
particularly Republicans, because here they're makinga move. The Republicans want the Jewish
vote, and how do you establishincrease your Jewish vote your Jewish influence?
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As you start going, we areon the side of the Jews. Now,
Jews are generally Democrats. More Jewsare Democrats than are Republicans. But
when you come to Israel anti Semitismfighting, that a lot happens. So
you have the Republicans other than MarjorieTaylor Green, I'm going to talk about
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who are more in favor of aidto Israel. Democrats are sort of split
on it. Republicans are not Republicansare going after the vote, and not
only I think they are morally rightin this case, and I would withhold
too to cover if the schools don'tdo enough to protect Jewish students and if
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they are legitimately at risk and fearfulof their safety, which I believe is
happening. I mean not often,or maybe often. I don't even know,
because I hear reports all day long. Every time I look at a
story, and it's a point counterpoint. You've got the protesters, you've got
the counter protesters, and then inevitablya Jewish student saying on me, you
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know, I'm frightened to go toschool, or several are frightened to go
to school, or Jewish buildings,organizations on campus shut down for fear of
being attacked and being the victim thepoint of anti Semitic statements. So you're
going to see Republicans getting more involvedas these protests keep ongoing, because at
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this point, it's the last timeprotests at this level happened in the United
States was in the sixties and earlyseventies with the Vietnam War. I mean,
that's how big a deal this is, and is it going to get
worse, as I said, thanthe last segment. Man, if you
think it's bad now, wait tillIsrael goes ahead and invades Rafa. It
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is going to go crazy. Keepin mind, Rafa is a place where
Israel has said that is a safezone. And you've got a one point
three million Palestinians in a town thathad two hundred and fifty thousand, and
the they're basically refugee camps. Asfar as you can see, you have
ten encampments and the amount of foreignaid that's coming in humanitarian aid is minuscule
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compared to what they need, althoughit's much better now than it was several
weeks ago. And Israel says,hey, that's where Hamas is and we're
going after Hamas come hell or highwater. I mean, it is complicated.
It is a mess. And Itell you I wouldn't want to be
a Jewish student at the universities today. I would not, And especially being
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very public about my Judaism and beingpublic about being pro Israel, it's not
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You're listening to Bill Handle on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. You are
listening to the Bill Handle Show.This is Can'tfi Handle here with the Morning
Crew on Aday, Wednesday, Mayfirst, And I want to well,
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first of all, a lot goingon mid East Anthony Blincoln now and the
rest of the Mid East, anda lot of the world is calling out
Hamas listen, you got a deal, go for it. We haven't yet
heard from that. And former PresidentTrump was flying nine thousand dollars because he
keeps on violating the gag order toshut up, and he won't, and
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the judge is threatening to toss himin jail for that. Oh, wouldn't
that be interesting? And does hedo that because he wants that to happen,
to really enforce the concept that he'splaying the victim. Now as far
as the protests go, and that'sthe biggest story going on around the United
States right now, the protests thatare going on in colleges all over the
country. And I want to bringit local because initially UCLA was given tremendous
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kudos fort how it was handling theprotests as opposed to what was gone in
Columbia, for example, and inthe south, UCLA has now joined the
fray. It's part of everybody else. Blake Trolley is at UCLA right now,
and Blake, it's seven o'clock inthe morning and they're still hear me.
Yeah, I can hear you.Seven o'clock in the morning and there
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are people out there protesting. No. In fact, the vibe here on
campus is a lot different than whenI first arrived at about three point thirty
this morning. Keep in mind,build at the violence that have erupted here
on campus. Happened about eleven pmlast night when counter protesters ran up to
the pro Palestinian encampment and started removingbarriers, and this caused fights to break
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out on the line. And thenwe saw those fights escalate beyond just simple
fist fights into bear spray mace beingdeployed and fireworks being fired into the Pro
Palestinian camp. All of this happeningwhile security guards were overwhelmed. They stood
back, and we're seeing some reportsI put in an inquiry with the university
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that it actually took a couple,if not three hours for outside law enforcement
agencies to step in. They havesince stepped in. They set up a
barrier it's more than one hundred feetconstructed with metal fensing, and right now
there are officers standing in the middleof that, and the tensions are very
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common. Fact, you can hearthe birds chirping here on campus. The
counter protesters have left, and thepro Palestinian protesters I believe are sleeping,
just given the time and given thatthey were up all night all right,
So to make it clear, itwas the counter protesters, the pro Israeli
protesters, anti protesters who were usingthe bear spray and attacking the Pro Palestinian
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group. You know, when itcomes to the bear spray, it's very
unclear. It's very clear that fireworkswere being fired into the pro Palestinian camp.
Once it gets down to the fights. That's really hard to judge just
by the video because and really that'swhat we're going off. There's so much
video from the scene, and whenyou look and you comb through it,
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it's really hard to tell what's goingon because there's just so many scuffles,
so many random scuffles breaking out.That said, fireworks were clearly being launched
into the pro Palestinian camp, andthat is kind of interesting for a couple
of reasons. Number One, that'scontrary to what we're hearing about campuses all
over the country that counter protesters actuallybegan an altercation. And I'm assuming that's
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the case that Ucla. It wasnot the pro Palestinian protesters group. It
was the counter group that started thiswith the fireworks. Do I have that
right exactly? So the counter protestersstart removing that barrier, and as they
remove that barrier, then the proPalestinian protesters and the counter protesters they begin
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getting into physical fights. Okay.And the other thing I want to bring
up is that Ucla. That makessense that what happened at UCLA because UCLA
has a big Jewish population, bigJewish student population there. I mean,
La New York are the two Jewishcenters of this country. Also Miami where
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all the New York Jews go duringthe winter. But at this point,
was anybody, were anybody arrested,anybody dragged away? Did you see mass
arrests at this point? I wouldpresume some people were injured pretty bad.
We haven't heard any reports. There'sbeen no official reports on injuries or arrests,
but just by review of what Isaw, you know, when you
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collect all of this video, alot of it's still hitting social media.
There has to be people at leastat the very least pretty banged up walking
away from this. Some people weredropped to the ground and you would see,
you know, several people get ontop and start beating them up,
So I would assume people were injuredthere. I'm very curious to see if
there's going to be injuries reported outof the Pro Palestinian camp, especially with
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those fireworks exploding. I saw onevideo where firework goes into the camp and
you know, several seconds go byafter it lands on the ground, and
then you see it explode and yousee that, you know, the embers,
all the colors go into the air, and you hear people stream.
You really got to wonder if there'sany injuries there. Yeah, has it
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evolved into that. Were there arrestmade? Again, We're still waiting to
hear if any arrests were made.I did not witness any arrests. When
I came here. Officers were inriot gear, helmets down, and what
they were really working to do wassecure a barrier between the Row Palace Videan
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group and the pros Raili group.And keep in mind Bill I covered these
protests in Portland, similar protests intwenty twenty. And sometimes these arrests they
do come, you know, weeksafter security video or social media video is
reviewed. Yeah, and around thecountry it's the arrests are kind of eh,
no big deal, especially if astudent is truly engaged and believed,
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because it's a misdemeanor. You're goingto go to jail for a couple of
hours charges. It's a misdemeanor charge. It's the expulsion from school, and
that is going to cost them,especially the families that put up all this
money in life savings, especially theseprivate colleges. All Right, Blake,
I'm sure we're gonna hear from youthe rest of the day, especially if
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this thing gets a little more engagedwith the counter protesters and the protesters.
Thanks very much. All right,thanks Bill. All right, now,
he said the altercation actually started witha counter protesters when from the Israeli side
of the protest, fireworks were throwninto the pro Palestinian folks. And that's
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a little unusual. But there's anobed piece in the Atlantic about colleges and
free speech. So last year,i mean all over the country, New
York, Texas cops storm college campusesand they were in riot gear and they
were there to conduct mass arrests.Well, actually that's not true. Again,
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this is a free speech in theAtlantic dot Com is by a professor
who teaches at one of the colleges, and he talks about teaching students around
the country. The government can't silencespeakers because of their beliefs. And here
is where it is conflated. Idon't think there is any school out there
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that says you can't protest, notat all. Where the line is drawn
is protests and blocking entrances. Inthe case of a couple of schools,
commencement are going to be canceled.I mean, can you imagine that there
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were seniors that weren't able to graduateduring COVID and their scheduled to graduate now,
and the protesters have effectively said,you're not going to protest I heard
one, or you're not going tograduate. I heard one protester say it's
a small price to pay. Peopleare dying in Gaza and it's no big
deal for you not to graduate.Yeah, okay, good for you.
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And so I'm going to go backto the argument that universities are part of
the group that is shutting down FirstAmendments, First Amendment rights and rights to
protest. To me, it seemsso clear cut. I don't know where
the argument is. I don't knowwhat school is saying you cannot protest.
Even Greg Abbott of Texas is talkingof out how the students, the protesters,
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it should be shut down, andcertain elements in the school with anti
Semitic statements. He doesn't quite getit. But you're allowed to be anti
Semitic. You're allowed to protest anythingyou want. And as I said,
you're not allowed to disrupt. InColumbia, they have taken over the administration
building and I don't know if yousaw the video, but windows were broken.
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Notice that everybody is wearing masks,right, they're wearing those you know,
the Palestinian garb, the headgear.It looks like basically tablecloths from an
Italian restaurant, you know, theblack and white scarfs over their heads,
over their faces, and you can'trecognize them. And you know why,
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because I think they know that breakingwindows, storming buildings, stopping people from
entering, taking over an administration building, maybe that's not so good. It's
an easy answer if you want toprotest. What school is not going to
give you an area to protest there? It is happens all the time.
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You ask the school, This happensall the time with protesters asking the asking
authorities, we want to protest,and they say, okay, this is
the area go counter protesters. That'sthe area you go. They'll be a
zone in the middle, there'll bea dead man's zone, a demilitarized zone
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where you can protest. And insteadit has blown up. And here is
where the argument they're actually arguing.They're actually arguing that what the schools are
doing with calling the police violation ofFirst Amendment. One of the points that
are made in this article by againthis professor who is looking at schools and
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they are violating First Amendment rights,of which that's where you want to encourage
First Amendment is at the university level. So this is the University of Texas.
Officers arrested a whole group of protestersfor trespassing, but the students didn't
appear to have violated any school rules, and you can't trespass on a place
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where you have a right to be. And the next day the County Attorney's
office dropped all the press trespassing chargesfor lack of probable cause. I don't
quite get that because it isn't illegal, and isn't there a law in every
single jurisdiction that says you cannot interferewith egress? And what's the opposite of
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egress? Ingress? Total gress?Forgress anyway in and out. You can't
interfere with people going in and out. You can't interfere with the business that
the school or the business is doing. And so the argument on First Amendment
I think is insane. But you'regonna hear more and more of that,
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believe me, in this altercation acrossthe country. Is this thing, well,
we'll see how more serious it gets, how much more serious it gets.
And this looks like it may beblowing up, especially if Israel,
the Israeli armed forces invade Rafa.Oh are you going to see this go
crazy? Okay, Now this hasto do with House Republicans, And when
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it comes to the protests, thereare people that are obviously anti protests.
You got the Jewish group, proZionist group, You've got the protesters that
are pro Palestinian. And it lookslike never the Twain shall meet, and
a lot of folks are looking thisas a First Amendment issue. Others looking
at it as a straight, astraight criminal act. What's happening in Colombia,
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for example, where they have overrunand taken over and invaded the administration
building and they break windows and noone's coming in and it's clearly criminal.
Now, I want to spend amoment talking about the political side of this,
and this has to do with HouseRepublicans. And here's the politics of
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it. We have an election comingup where a third of the Senate is
running, all the congress people arerunning, and we have a presidential okay,
big year. And look at thegroups that both the Democrats and the
Republicans are going after. You've gotthe youth group, certainly young people that
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both Democrats and Republicans are going after, usually Democrats. And you have those
of the Hebrewic American persuasion in theUnited States Jews, who usually are Zionists.
There is a few who aren't.And don't confuse Zionism with Judaism.
Zionism has to do with the stateof Israel and establishing a political, sovereign
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country. Judaism is basically a religionwhich we're not talking about establishing a state.
Jews are all over the world,and I've historically talked about, you
know, Jews going back three thousandyears or thirty five hundred years and establishing
Israel. But today Zionism is aboutthe state of Israel. Judaism is about
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the religion, and so people tendto conflate that and that's not true.
You have Jews that are protesting inthe Palestinian camp, not arguing that Israel
shouldn't exist, but arguing that thiswar should end and Israel should get out
of Gaza. And genocide is goingon, which, by the way,
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it's not genocide. Genocide is eitherethnic cleansing or the wiping out of an
entire group of people. Hitler engagedin genie, the wiping out of Jews,
Turks engaged in genocide, the wipingout of Armenians over a million.
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What Israel is doing is not wipingout the Arab population or the Palestinian population.
Not a conservative effort to kill everysingle person there. Now. A
lot of people are dying, noquestion about it. A lot of argument
can be made against what Israel isdoing. And I, by the way,
join that group of people. Iam not thrilled with what Israel is
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doing. I think they're handling itvery wrong. I think too many people
are dying. And where I reallyhold Israel at fault is not letting in
humanitarian aid. That is the numberone issue. Number two issue is the
killing of all those civilians. Theproblem is Hamas embeds itself into civilians,
and if you're going after Hamas,then you're going after civilians. And the
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only way to save civilians from beingkilled, injured, devastated, holmes destroyed
is to not have Hamas there.And since they're there, do you walk
away and simply let Hamas do whatit's going to do. And as charter
calls for the destruction of Israel andno Jews in Israel's the Palestinian states,
So it gets a little complicated.Now. I want to continue on with
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the politics of what is happening atthe universities all over the country and the
demonstrations and the protests, and thishas happens to do happens to be with
the politics of the election coming upDemocrats versus Republicans, And this slays right
into the argument that out of theseprotests, anti Semitism is flowing out of
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this on the pro Palestinian side.And you have heard many times how Jews
have enormous power in this United Statesrelative to their population. I'm sure you
heard that myth, which happens tobe absolutely true. There is no question
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you have a huge number of majordon't and we got rich Jews out there.
I mean, it's that simple,you know. And you have very
very few Arabs Palestinians relative to notonly influence, but also the population in
America. So both sides of theIsle in Congress and a lot of us
are very very cognizant of anti Semitism, which is growing like crazy around the
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world, including the US. Andhere's what the House Republicans did yesterday.
They announced an investigation into federal fundingfor universities where students have protested and it
has gone into anti semitism, arguingthat the universities are not doing enough to
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protect the Jewish students. And we'rehearing report after report on virtually every campus
that Jewish students are frightened, theyfeel that well that their safety is at
issue. They are the victim ofvictims of anti Semitism, And to an
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extent that's true. I don't knowif it is universally, and it hasn't
come out yet because I think theprotesters are spending a lot more time and
effort dealing with a Palestinian issue relativeto anti Semitism. But the two can
be connected. And in fact,if you look at the protests growing and
the number of anti Semitic accusations growing, it's not hard to argue that they're
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not connected. So here is whatseveral House committees are doing. And keep
in mind the committees are chaired byRepublicans, and they're beginning a probe and
they're saying, if you the universitiesdon't do enough to protect the Jewish students
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their safety, which is your jobto protect students, here's what we're going
to do, and we are goingto cut out federal spending at the university
level. So how much influence doesthe federal government have on a private school
for example, Well, lots andlots and lots. For example, the
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Congress has the ability, the federalgovernment has the ability to stop issuing all
federally backed student loans at a givenuniversity, just say no, we're done.
School isn't complying with keeping students safe, And that is one of the
requirements on the big universities that havemajor medical centers Columbia, Ucla, Yale,
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Cornell where all all of these demonstrationsare taking place, Columbia worse than
other places, or the students moreinvolved than in other places. On the
side of the protests, every oneof them that has a major medical center
research center. Guess where they geta huge amount of money from federal government
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NIH grants. And if the governmentstopped funding those centers with the grants,
research would grind to a halt alot of power Congress has, and Congress
particularly Republicans, because here they're makinga move. The Republicans want the Jewish
vote, and how do you establishincrease your Jewish vote your Jewish influence?
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As you start going, we areon the side of the Jews. Now,
Jews are generally Democrats. More Jewsare Democrats than are Republicans. But
when you come to Israel anti Semitismfighting, that a lot happens. So
you have the Republicans other than MarjorieTaylor Green, I'm going to talk about
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who are more in favor of aidto Israel. Democrats are sort of split
on it. Republicans are not Republicansare going after the vote, and not
only I think they are morally rightin this case, and I would withhold
too to cover if the schools don'tdo enough to protect Jewish students and if
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they are legitimately at risk and fearfulof their safety, which I believe is
happening. I mean not often,or maybe often. I don't even know,
because I hear reports all day long. Every time I look at a
story, and it's a point counterpoint. You've got the protesters, you've got
the counter protesters, and then inevitablya Jewish student saying on me, you
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know, I'm frightened to go toschool, or several are frightened to go
to school, or Jewish buildings,organizations on campus shut down for fear of
being attacked and being the victim thepoint of anti Semitic statements. So you're
going to see Republicans getting more involvedas these protests keep ongoing, because at
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this point, it's the last timeprotests at this level happened in the United
States was in the sixties and earlyseventies with the Vietnam War. I mean,
that's how big a deal this is, and is it going to get
worse, as I said, thanthe last segment. Man, if you
think it's bad now, wait tillIsrael goes ahead and invades Rafa. It
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is going to go crazy. Keepin mind, Rafa is a place where
Israel has said that is a safezone. And you've got a one point
three million Palestinians in a town thathad two hundred and fifty thousand, and
the they're basically refugee camps. Asfar as you can see, you have
ten encampments and the amount of foreignaid that's coming in humanitarian aid is minuscule
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compared to what they need, althoughit's much better now than it was several
weeks ago. And Israel says,hey, that's where Hamas is and we're
going after Hamas come hell or highwater. I mean, it is complicated.
It is a mess. And Itell you I wouldn't want to be
a Jewish student at the universities today. I would not, And especially being
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very public about my Judaism and beingpublic about being pro Israel, it's not
a fun place to be. KfI am six forty live everywhere on the
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