May 21, 2024 • 24 mins
KFI's own Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Tech Tuesday'! Rich talks about Microsoft unveiling new PCs with AI front and center, the BIG new feature in Windows: Recall, OpenAI pulling a voice that sounds like Scarlett Johanssen, and Airbnb for Luggage… and it worked! Feds collected DNA from 1.5MIL migrants, report finds. Why are Californians not paying their bills at the highest level since 2021?
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You're listening to Bill Handle on Demandfrom KFI AM six forty. You are
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to two pm, and he isif I and KKLAS tech or reporter on
Instagram at rich on tech website,Rich on tech dot TV. Good morning
Rich. Hey, good morning toBill. Coming to from Seattle this morning.
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Oh Ben, and you're doing whatin Seattle? Well, it's all
Microsoft. So last week it wasGoogle, this week it is Microsoft.
In a couple of weeks it isApple. But everyone is in a race
for AI. And yesterday Microsoft hada big event and they showed off some
new computers that have AI built in. And then today kicks off what's called
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Microsoft Build. This is their annualconference that's you know, mostly for software
developers and engineers to learn how touse Microsoft products. But there's gonna be
I just found out a two hourkeynote starting at nine am, so I
will be uh and you can't leaveduring the keynote. So oh lovely?
And who's and who is and whois the keynote speaker? Well, the
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keynotes speaker is the CEO of Microsoft, along with a whole bunch of other
Okay, here's an important question.I often considered, who pays for you
to fly up there? Because Iknow it's not KFI, this is uh
kt l A. Yeah, it'slike a business or cook. Come on,
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Bill, I'm did you ask ifI'm playing what? Okay, I
know. Let me put it thisway. You're taking an airplane or they
have to put take a bus exactly. Have you ever tried to push an
airplane? No, that's no.Look, it's uh. I'm happy with
an ilet. As long as Ihave an ilet good. I can go
anywhere in the world with an asletAll right. When now, now,
let's we've gotten that out of theway. Uh the uh, what's expected?
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Are you going to see anything ofany note, because I get the
impression that lately has been all incrementalstuff. There's nothing mind boggling about anything
that's coming out other than AI.Off the weeks. Yeah, well so
we did actually see Well today we'regoing to get kind of the overview for
Microsoft's you know, what they believethe future of AI is. Yesterday was
a more private event where they showedoff their new computers, and not just
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new computers, but a new Imean, they're really having high hopes for
this category of computers called Copilot plusPCs. So this is sort of a
new class of Windows PCs that haveAI hardware built in. So they have
a special chip that can do atleast forty trillion operations per second. So
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there's special specs that these computers haveto have to be able to run AI
efficiently, which is forty trillion operationsper second on the NPU they call it
neuroprocessing unit, sixteen gigabytes a RAMand two hundred and fifty six giga storage.
What does that all mean, Bill? It means that they want to
sell fifty million new computers in thenext year because people are going to say
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I need a new computer that canhandle AI. And when you go to
Best Buyer, you go to thesestores, they say, oh, you
need a Copilot plus PC. That'swhat you need. Number one. I'm
assuming the chip is made by Nvidia. Okay, Yeah, that's interesting.
I'll explain that in a second.No, it's not, and it's actually
not the it's not the first timethey've used the snap Dragon trip chip.
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But this is a you know,Qualcom is based out of San Diego,
and they are using their chip nowinstead of Intel inside these computers. And
they said that the main reason forthat is because they worked very closely with
Qualcomm to put these snap Dragon chipsinside these computers, which is a pretty
big change. Historically, these chipshave been in things like smartphones. That's
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where Qualcom has done really really well, smartphones cars. So having them in
computers, that's a big deal forthis company, especially when they're expecting to
sell so many of these computers.How much are they going to go for?
Any idea what the price point isgoing to be? Yeah? They
I mean, look, they startat nine hundred and ninety nine dollars.
It's one of them is called thesurface laptop. One's called the surface pro
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but once you spec them out withthe stuff you actually want, Like the
keyboard alone, bill is four hundredand fifty dollars on this hatchable tablet thing,
So wow, So when you spillyour coffee on that, it's not
a thirty dollars replacement. No,definitely not unless you go on Amazon and
type in you know, the keyboard, and you see the four hundred and
fifty dollars one, and then rightunderneath is the one that's like four dollars
and fifty cents. You're like,oh, I'll just buy that mine.
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Hey, is are there going tobe any Mac people are going to move
over? You think that is agreat question. So I posted yesterday on
my uh and my Twitter because Microsoftthe entire time was comparing their computer against
the MacBook Air with the latest chip, and they're saying it's like, you
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know, fifty eight percent faster,the battery lasts longer, all these things.
They really handed it to Apple yesterday, which is pretty rare to see
a tech company do that. Andso there was a big debate on my
Twitter about whether people would actually goto these computers. I think traditionally people
think of Windows computers as a computerthat helps you get print work done right.
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If you're a creative type, youare going with a MacBook or a
Macroair or MacBook Pro. But we'llsee, maybe this AI stuff will get
people to kind of come on over. One of the things that I have
noticed over the years is people thathave used PCs and you're right, from
the corporate world, and for theirown they start their own business or they
war into graphics or whatever, moveover to MAX. I have never heard
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of any moving, anybody moving backto PC for their own computer. There
is a fanaticism among Mac owners thatI don't even see exists in the PC
world. Do I have that right? Would? I would agree with that.
And I also think that the haloeffect of the iPhone has really helped
sell these laptops and also the tablet, because you know, when you get
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something from Apple, everything works together. And I think that Windows and Microsoft
they are really you know, it'sa much more kind of open system.
I mean, not only by theway, I mentioned the two computers that
Microsoft came out with yesterday of theirown, but they had computers from all
the other major companies acer Asus,Dell, HP, Lenovo, all on
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display and they all have the samekind of like distinction of this copilot plus
PCD, but they all do thingstheir own way, so there's a lot
more choice, you know, comparedto when you go to the Apple store.
The only computers that are running macOSare Apple's own computers, and that's
a big difference here this. Youknow, the ecosystems are very different when
it comes to Windows Microsoft versus Macand Mac os. Rich an Airbnb story
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ooh last night on the National NewsABC News. The CEO of Airbnb is
they're trying to deal with how expensiveairb and b's have become. It's just
changed completely the entire model. Butyou have put together Airbnb and luggage.
I don't quite get that. Ohyeah, this is an interesting one.
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So I landed here in Seattle Sundayafternoon, and I had, you know,
I had to take an earlier flight, so I had kind of the
whole afternoon to kind of, youknow, explore the city. But of
course when you land what do youhave. You've got your luggage with you.
My hotel was clear across the city, so I wasn't able to stop
there to drop off my luggage withoutpaying a whole bunch of money for an
uber or taking up you know,the two hours that I had to burn,
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and so I said, there's gotto be a way that I can
store my luggage somewhere around you know, Pike Marketplace. And sure enough,
there is an app that lets youdo this. It is called Bounce and
it's a luggage storage app. It'skind of like Airbnb for luggage. So
these you know, different places signup for the app and they agree to
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hold your luggage and so you canmake a reservation on the app. You
bring your luggage to this store.In my case, they reveal the name
of the store after you book it, so it tells you where it is,
but it doesn't show you exactly,just like Airbnb, because otherwise you
just walk to the store and say, hey, can you store this for
half the price? And it workedout perfectly. This this Bounce app has
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over ten thousand storages lotions around theworld. It's very easy. It was
kind of expensive. It costs meabout twenty dollars for two hours to store
the luggage. The ironic part billwhen I got to the place, because
I had to pay to see wherethe place was. Outside the store,
there was a big sign that saidleave your luggage here, and the price
was like a fraction of what Ipaid through the app. But on the
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flip side, you would never beable to know that without the app.
So's whatever. You always wonder aboutthese apps. If someone came out and
go, god, I should havethought of that, you know, that
would that was easy? And yetyou know, first out and you get
the market and then you think aboutit. There's no there's no overhead with
this app. I mean you youbasically just create a platform. By the
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way, the alternative is called LuggageHero. That's a newer one, and
I don't think they have as manylocations. But again, this is one
of those things I do put inmy newsletter, by the way, I
know you talk about the newsletter,but this is the kind of stuff that
you know, not only do Iput in the newsletter, but I also
test it out, like I was, like, you know, let's see
how this works. And it wasa very good experience. And it just
makes getting to a city and nothaving your hotel room ready a lot easier
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if your hotel is not nearby,right, It's all depends on where your
hotel is. Hop Yeah, andthere's a lot to see. Did you
go with the Underground of Seattle?Have you done that tour yet? No?
But I didn't do the Gum Alley. You really want to go.
There's a whole city underneath Seattle andit is just absolutely fascinating and it is
so worth it. Okay, aquestion that I ask you every week?
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Now, what's new this week inAi? Well? Okay, so number
one? Two things. Let melet me talk about two quick things.
Number one open Ai. I talkedabout it last week. How they have
you know their new They're they're reallystarting to push out this voice, natural
voice back and forth with the app. It hasn't launched yet for everyone,
but in the very near future,you're gonna be able to interact with chat
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GPT on your phone like a humanbeing in a in a very easy to
understand voice. And yes, theyalready have that feeture, but it's getting
even better, even more natural.The big news this week is that open
ai pulled one of their voices,which is named Sky, because it sounded
too much like the actress Scarlett Johansson. I guess they had asked her to
do the voice and she said no, and they made a voice that sounded
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like her. Anyway, I wasusing that voice for the last couple of
weeks. I didn't even think itsounded like her, but anyway, So
now that voice has been pulled andthat they have other ones to So when
you talk about using the voice,is this for, for example, your
ways application or you know, textmessaging. What do you actually use these
voices for. Well, this ismore just for questions and answers at this
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point. And in the future.You know, there's a big rumor right
now that Apple is going to harvestour farm out some part of Siri to
open AI so you'll be able touse sort of like their voice control on
your iPhone. We do not knowif that's going to happen. It would
be interesting, but that would bethe scenario that you're talking about, which
is I think, in my opinion, that is the absolute pinnacle of our
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smartphones finally working the way we've alwaysimagined them. Like this morning, I
was listening to some audio and Itold Siri, you know, pause that
resume that that's very very simple.But imagine saying, hey, sirih catch
me up on my last most importantemails. Also send a text to my
wife that says good morning, andalso tell me what time I need to
leave this hotel so I can getto the convention center in time. That
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is the kind of stuff that AIcan do. But right now you've have
to open up fifteen different apps tofigure that information out. So this is
you know, we're not there justyet. Well now I'm assuming that means
that there has to be a consolidationof different apps that somebody puts all this
together. Whatever AI company is,this, licensing is this everybody is getting
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together because it makes more sense,and let's just decide that we're going to
use these platforms. Well, Ithink in the case of the iPhone,
the way the iPhone already works couldbe actually very beneficial to this kind of
idea because it can already pull fromyour messaging. But the way that the
iPhone sort of programs things is allof the developers follow Apple's guidelines for the
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way that they program their apps sothat they're still private, but they can
still interact with the iPhone in avery particular way, especially when it comes
to things like Siri. So Ithink if anyone can do this easily,
it actually is Apple, because justthe architecture of the iPhone sort of lends
itself to that where you could stilluse all of these individual apps that you
like, but the voice service wouldbe able to tap into them individually.
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And I think that at the beginningof Siri, we saw, you know,
everything was controlled by Apple. Inthe last couple of years they tried
to make Siri more open where itinteracts with apps, but nobody's actually using
that functionality. But I think thatthis voice control, especially with something like
a chat GBT with an AI voice, it could really kind of propare tell
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this functionality into something that's very usablefor people. All Right, Rich thank
you eleven to two o'clock Saturdays hereon Instagram, rich On at rich On
Tech and the newsletter and website,rich On Tech dot TV. Have a
good one. We'll talk again nextweek. Rich Thanks, Bill, appreciate
it, and we'll catch you Saturdaymorning at eleven o'clock right after Handle on
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the Law. All right, hereis a story about privacy. You know,
every time we talk about the quotethe invasion of privacy, which happens
a lot the civil libertarians, theACLU goes out of their minds, and
this is a story that just cameout Georgetown Law Center released this and it
is saying that routine collection of immigrantsDNA by federal authorities has spiked fifty fold,
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fiftyfold in the number of samples heldin a national database of genetic information.
Forty years now, the DNA databaseshared with law enforcement added more than
one point five million non citizen profiles. What does that mean? Immigrants coming
across the border, even immigrants comingthe United States so legally, are having
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their DNA checked and put into adatabase. And how dare the government do
that? Why? Because it's aviolation of the fourteenth Amendment. How dare
you You can't do that because dueprocess? I mean, they just can't
take samples. You know what,it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter samples,
no samples. Today with AI andthe international databases that occur and the
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ability of systems to just search everyplace, everywhere, where you've gone,
where you live, who you are, everybody knows. Any government authority can
get in there and find out whoyou are. Why it's interesting that no
one complains about Ralphs knowing everything youbuy. That seems to be okay.
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The government knowing where you are,that's a problem. That is a problem,
And so this is DNA. Thismay be a little bit different.
This is DNA collected and goes intoa criminal database that is there forever.
So what ends up happening. Let'ssay you get stopped for a traffic violation.
And by the way, do youknow anybody who has never been stopped
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for a traffic violation? I actuallyknow two people, No, one person.
One person who has never been stopped. Everybody else, including myself.
I mean, we always get stopped. So what do the police do.
They run your background check, andnow are they going to be able to
collect DNA and match it? Theydon't have to, however, if a
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crime is committed, they have theDNA. I'm a big fan of DNA
collection. Frankly, I'm also abig fan of a sperm donation for exactly
the same reasons that are kind ofobvious, and that is producing the DNA.
Now, most of the time it'sthey take a cheek swab and sometimes
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I think that's it. Sometimes youspit into a little dixie cup. But
most of the times, just acheek swab and they have you. It's
in the database. They can matchyou. And that's what happens. Whenever
there is an alleged crime. Theyget tested when you get stopped for a
traffic ticket. I don't know ifthis analogy even works because this whole issue
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is an invasion of privacy. Andthen someone getting a swab as they cross
the border, I can you knowwhat I can see if they've done it
illegally. I get that, youknow, as horrible as it is.
And the vast, fast, fast, fast majority of illegal immigrants to come
over the border are not criminals.The only crime is crossing the border.
They are not here to commit crimes. And how about the ones that come
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in legally? You know, HomelandSecurity can do all of that. You
know what the oversight is Homeland Securityalmost nothing. You know, the single
agency that has the least oversight thatexists is Homeland Security because of well the
word is security, because national securityis involved. So you know, I
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don't know how I feel about that. Clearly, the center in Georgetown is
kind of against it. And hereis one of the issues involved. First
of all, researchers that interviewed peoplesaid they were unaware of the DNA had
even been collected, which you know, if you're taking a cheek swab,
how do you not know DNA isbeing collected, and they're saying that people
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are not informed beforehand. And thepeople that are informed and coming over the
border, particularly picked up by theborder patrol, they are so frightened,
they are so vulnerable that the governmentcan do anything it wants to them,
and they're going to say yes,well, okay, at cheek swab putting
it into the DNA database and thestats that were being given. This part
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is kind of interesting and kind ofscary. Is that within the next few
years, and I'm talking about thenext five years, two thirds of the
database will be immigrants and people whohave been in the States have come over
and the government knows who they are. And I think short of being a
citizen or a Green card holder,you're in the database. I mean,
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I don't care if I'm in adatabase. Do you kneel care that your
data is in the database and theyhave your DNA, Well, I'd prefer
it not to be per se,I mean, do you care? Well,
but no, I've worked for schoolsand stuff, so I've been you
know, and we're an adoptive family, so I'm fingerprinted and everything else.
Yeah, I'm more concerned about thebad guys catching the bad guys. You
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know, as much as it isis an invasion, I'm more frightened of
someone who commits the crime potentially comingto my place and committing a crime and
grabbing them and putting them in prison. I think giving up your freedoms and
your privacy should be more valued toAmericans than screw your freedoms. However,
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if they do give me a fifteenpercent discount on those on that loaf of
bread I'm buying, yeah, goahead, take whatever you want. Not
a problem. Now a story thatat first glands this is out of the
Orange County Register, and that isCalifornians are behind more than they ever have
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in terms of their bill paying.And while that is and we're talking about
it in the night last two anda half years, that is bad news
because we're more behind, but weare less behind in the rest of the
country. And why is that?What is our problem? What do you
think the number one problem is aboutbeing behind in payments, mortgages, home
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payments. That is the problem.Here is a stat when I looked at
this is kind of stunning. Consumerdebts per capita for every man, woman,
and child in California is eighty seventhousand dollars per person per capita.
Okay, for the number of people, eighty percent of that tied to mortgages.
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That's up over two percent twenty onepercent five years. The typical American's
debt sixty one thousand as opposed toeighty seven thousand. Seventy percent of that
is mortgages, and that's up almostthree twenty two percent five years. Now
are most mortgages being paid? Youbet. There are two kinds of debt
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that you pay sort of no matterwhat. One is your home. You
don't want to lose your house,and two is your car, because it's
hard to get around without a car, particularly here in southern California. Other
than that, strangely enough, youcan go you can forego food or parts
of food. Plenty of people thatat the end of the month, or
eating pasta. You can certainly foregoclothing, even utilities. You know,
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people do live at least with theair conditioning off because they can't afford utilities.
But when it comes to home payments, you don't want to lose your
home payments for sure at all.So it's both good and bad news for
us. Strangely enough, considering whathappened in the pandemic. The rate of
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late pays is way down. Probablyhas to do with the fact that unemployment
is not a big deal. Weare terrifically employed with this economy. That's
it, guys, We're done untiltomorrow. A quick word about handle on
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Here. It is a Tuesday morning, which means Tuesday eight o'clock. We
dive into tech Tech Tuesday with RichDemurau all the latest gun gadgets and stuff
with kfis resident handsome nerd. It'stech Tech Tuesday with Rich Jamiro and here
(00:51):
we go. Good morning Rich.Rich heard every Saturday here on KFI eleven
to two pm, and he isif I and KKLAS tech or reporter on
Instagram at rich on tech website,Rich on tech dot TV. Good morning
Rich. Hey, good morning toBill. Coming to from Seattle this morning.
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Oh Ben, and you're doing whatin Seattle? Well, it's all
Microsoft. So last week it wasGoogle, this week it is Microsoft.
In a couple of weeks it isApple. But everyone is in a race
for AI. And yesterday Microsoft hada big event and they showed off some
new computers that have AI built in. And then today kicks off what's called
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Microsoft Build. This is their annualconference that's you know, mostly for software
developers and engineers to learn how touse Microsoft products. But there's gonna be
I just found out a two hourkeynote starting at nine am, so I
will be uh and you can't leaveduring the keynote. So oh lovely?
And who's and who is and whois the keynote speaker? Well, the
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keynotes speaker is the CEO of Microsoft, along with a whole bunch of other
Okay, here's an important question.I often considered, who pays for you
to fly up there? Because Iknow it's not KFI, this is uh
kt l A. Yeah, it'slike a business or cook. Come on,
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Bill, I'm did you ask ifI'm playing what? Okay, I
know. Let me put it thisway. You're taking an airplane or they
have to put take a bus exactly. Have you ever tried to push an
airplane? No, that's no.Look, it's uh. I'm happy with
an ilet. As long as Ihave an ilet good. I can go
anywhere in the world with an asletAll right. When now, now,
let's we've gotten that out of theway. Uh the uh, what's expected?
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Are you going to see anything ofany note, because I get the
impression that lately has been all incrementalstuff. There's nothing mind boggling about anything
that's coming out other than AI.Off the weeks. Yeah, well so
we did actually see Well today we'regoing to get kind of the overview for
Microsoft's you know, what they believethe future of AI is. Yesterday was
a more private event where they showedoff their new computers, and not just
(03:09):
new computers, but a new Imean, they're really having high hopes for
this category of computers called Copilot plusPCs. So this is sort of a
new class of Windows PCs that haveAI hardware built in. So they have
a special chip that can do atleast forty trillion operations per second. So
(03:30):
there's special specs that these computers haveto have to be able to run AI
efficiently, which is forty trillion operationsper second on the NPU they call it
neuroprocessing unit, sixteen gigabytes a RAMand two hundred and fifty six giga storage.
What does that all mean, Bill? It means that they want to
sell fifty million new computers in thenext year because people are going to say
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I need a new computer that canhandle AI. And when you go to
Best Buyer, you go to thesestores, they say, oh, you
need a Copilot plus PC. That'swhat you need. Number one. I'm
assuming the chip is made by Nvidia. Okay, Yeah, that's interesting.
I'll explain that in a second.No, it's not, and it's actually
not the it's not the first timethey've used the snap Dragon trip chip.
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But this is a you know,Qualcom is based out of San Diego,
and they are using their chip nowinstead of Intel inside these computers. And
they said that the main reason forthat is because they worked very closely with
Qualcomm to put these snap Dragon chipsinside these computers, which is a pretty
big change. Historically, these chipshave been in things like smartphones. That's
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where Qualcom has done really really well, smartphones cars. So having them in
computers, that's a big deal forthis company, especially when they're expecting to
sell so many of these computers.How much are they going to go for?
Any idea what the price point isgoing to be? Yeah? They
I mean, look, they startat nine hundred and ninety nine dollars.
It's one of them is called thesurface laptop. One's called the surface pro
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but once you spec them out withthe stuff you actually want, Like the
keyboard alone, bill is four hundredand fifty dollars on this hatchable tablet thing,
So wow, So when you spillyour coffee on that, it's not
a thirty dollars replacement. No,definitely not unless you go on Amazon and
type in you know, the keyboard, and you see the four hundred and
fifty dollars one, and then rightunderneath is the one that's like four dollars
and fifty cents. You're like,oh, I'll just buy that mine.
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Hey, is are there going tobe any Mac people are going to move
over? You think that is agreat question. So I posted yesterday on
my uh and my Twitter because Microsoftthe entire time was comparing their computer against
the MacBook Air with the latest chip, and they're saying it's like, you
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know, fifty eight percent faster,the battery lasts longer, all these things.
They really handed it to Apple yesterday, which is pretty rare to see
a tech company do that. Andso there was a big debate on my
Twitter about whether people would actually goto these computers. I think traditionally people
think of Windows computers as a computerthat helps you get print work done right.
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If you're a creative type, youare going with a MacBook or a
Macroair or MacBook Pro. But we'llsee, maybe this AI stuff will get
people to kind of come on over. One of the things that I have
noticed over the years is people thathave used PCs and you're right, from
the corporate world, and for theirown they start their own business or they
war into graphics or whatever, moveover to MAX. I have never heard
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of any moving, anybody moving backto PC for their own computer. There
is a fanaticism among Mac owners thatI don't even see exists in the PC
world. Do I have that right? Would? I would agree with that.
And I also think that the haloeffect of the iPhone has really helped
sell these laptops and also the tablet, because you know, when you get
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something from Apple, everything works together. And I think that Windows and Microsoft
they are really you know, it'sa much more kind of open system.
I mean, not only by theway, I mentioned the two computers that
Microsoft came out with yesterday of theirown, but they had computers from all
the other major companies acer Asus,Dell, HP, Lenovo, all on
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display and they all have the samekind of like distinction of this copilot plus
PCD, but they all do thingstheir own way, so there's a lot
more choice, you know, comparedto when you go to the Apple store.
The only computers that are running macOSare Apple's own computers, and that's
a big difference here this. Youknow, the ecosystems are very different when
it comes to Windows Microsoft versus Macand Mac os. Rich an Airbnb story
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ooh last night on the National NewsABC News. The CEO of Airbnb is
they're trying to deal with how expensiveairb and b's have become. It's just
changed completely the entire model. Butyou have put together Airbnb and luggage.
I don't quite get that. Ohyeah, this is an interesting one.
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So I landed here in Seattle Sundayafternoon, and I had, you know,
I had to take an earlier flight, so I had kind of the
whole afternoon to kind of, youknow, explore the city. But of
course when you land what do youhave. You've got your luggage with you.
My hotel was clear across the city, so I wasn't able to stop
there to drop off my luggage withoutpaying a whole bunch of money for an
uber or taking up you know,the two hours that I had to burn,
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and so I said, there's gotto be a way that I can
store my luggage somewhere around you know, Pike Marketplace. And sure enough,
there is an app that lets youdo this. It is called Bounce and
it's a luggage storage app. It'skind of like Airbnb for luggage. So
these you know, different places signup for the app and they agree to
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hold your luggage and so you canmake a reservation on the app. You
bring your luggage to this store.In my case, they reveal the name
of the store after you book it, so it tells you where it is,
but it doesn't show you exactly,just like Airbnb, because otherwise you
just walk to the store and say, hey, can you store this for
half the price? And it workedout perfectly. This this Bounce app has
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over ten thousand storages lotions around theworld. It's very easy. It was
kind of expensive. It costs meabout twenty dollars for two hours to store
the luggage. The ironic part billwhen I got to the place, because
I had to pay to see wherethe place was. Outside the store,
there was a big sign that saidleave your luggage here, and the price
was like a fraction of what Ipaid through the app. But on the
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flip side, you would never beable to know that without the app.
So's whatever. You always wonder aboutthese apps. If someone came out and
go, god, I should havethought of that, you know, that
would that was easy? And yetyou know, first out and you get
the market and then you think aboutit. There's no there's no overhead with
this app. I mean you youbasically just create a platform. By the
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way, the alternative is called LuggageHero. That's a newer one, and
I don't think they have as manylocations. But again, this is one
of those things I do put inmy newsletter, by the way, I
know you talk about the newsletter,but this is the kind of stuff that
you know, not only do Iput in the newsletter, but I also
test it out, like I was, like, you know, let's see
how this works. And it wasa very good experience. And it just
makes getting to a city and nothaving your hotel room ready a lot easier
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if your hotel is not nearby,right, It's all depends on where your
hotel is. Hop Yeah, andthere's a lot to see. Did you
go with the Underground of Seattle?Have you done that tour yet? No?
But I didn't do the Gum Alley. You really want to go.
There's a whole city underneath Seattle andit is just absolutely fascinating and it is
so worth it. Okay, aquestion that I ask you every week?
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Now, what's new this week inAi? Well? Okay, so number
one? Two things. Let melet me talk about two quick things.
Number one open Ai. I talkedabout it last week. How they have
you know their new They're they're reallystarting to push out this voice, natural
voice back and forth with the app. It hasn't launched yet for everyone,
but in the very near future,you're gonna be able to interact with chat
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GPT on your phone like a humanbeing in a in a very easy to
understand voice. And yes, theyalready have that feeture, but it's getting
even better, even more natural.The big news this week is that open
ai pulled one of their voices,which is named Sky, because it sounded
too much like the actress Scarlett Johansson. I guess they had asked her to
do the voice and she said no, and they made a voice that sounded
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like her. Anyway, I wasusing that voice for the last couple of
weeks. I didn't even think itsounded like her, but anyway, So
now that voice has been pulled andthat they have other ones to So when
you talk about using the voice,is this for, for example, your
ways application or you know, textmessaging. What do you actually use these
voices for. Well, this ismore just for questions and answers at this
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point. And in the future.You know, there's a big rumor right
now that Apple is going to harvestour farm out some part of Siri to
open AI so you'll be able touse sort of like their voice control on
your iPhone. We do not knowif that's going to happen. It would
be interesting, but that would bethe scenario that you're talking about, which
is I think, in my opinion, that is the absolute pinnacle of our
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smartphones finally working the way we've alwaysimagined them. Like this morning, I
was listening to some audio and Itold Siri, you know, pause that
resume that that's very very simple.But imagine saying, hey, sirih catch
me up on my last most importantemails. Also send a text to my
wife that says good morning, andalso tell me what time I need to
leave this hotel so I can getto the convention center in time. That
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is the kind of stuff that AIcan do. But right now you've have
to open up fifteen different apps tofigure that information out. So this is
you know, we're not there justyet. Well now I'm assuming that means
that there has to be a consolidationof different apps that somebody puts all this
together. Whatever AI company is,this, licensing is this everybody is getting
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together because it makes more sense,and let's just decide that we're going to
use these platforms. Well, Ithink in the case of the iPhone,
the way the iPhone already works couldbe actually very beneficial to this kind of
idea because it can already pull fromyour messaging. But the way that the
iPhone sort of programs things is allof the developers follow Apple's guidelines for the
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way that they program their apps sothat they're still private, but they can
still interact with the iPhone in avery particular way, especially when it comes
to things like Siri. So Ithink if anyone can do this easily,
it actually is Apple, because justthe architecture of the iPhone sort of lends
itself to that where you could stilluse all of these individual apps that you
like, but the voice service wouldbe able to tap into them individually.
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And I think that at the beginningof Siri, we saw, you know,
everything was controlled by Apple. Inthe last couple of years they tried
to make Siri more open where itinteracts with apps, but nobody's actually using
that functionality. But I think thatthis voice control, especially with something like
a chat GBT with an AI voice, it could really kind of propare tell
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this functionality into something that's very usablefor people. All Right, Rich thank
you eleven to two o'clock Saturdays hereon Instagram, rich On at rich On
Tech and the newsletter and website,rich On Tech dot TV. Have a
good one. We'll talk again nextweek. Rich Thanks, Bill, appreciate
it, and we'll catch you Saturdaymorning at eleven o'clock right after Handle on
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the Law. All right, hereis a story about privacy. You know,
every time we talk about the quotethe invasion of privacy, which happens
a lot the civil libertarians, theACLU goes out of their minds, and
this is a story that just cameout Georgetown Law Center released this and it
is saying that routine collection of immigrantsDNA by federal authorities has spiked fifty fold,
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fiftyfold in the number of samples heldin a national database of genetic information.
Forty years now, the DNA databaseshared with law enforcement added more than
one point five million non citizen profiles. What does that mean? Immigrants coming
across the border, even immigrants comingthe United States so legally, are having
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their DNA checked and put into adatabase. And how dare the government do
that? Why? Because it's aviolation of the fourteenth Amendment. How dare
you You can't do that because dueprocess? I mean, they just can't
take samples. You know what,it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter samples,
no samples. Today with AI andthe international databases that occur and the
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ability of systems to just search everyplace, everywhere, where you've gone,
where you live, who you are, everybody knows. Any government authority can
get in there and find out whoyou are. Why it's interesting that no
one complains about Ralphs knowing everything youbuy. That seems to be okay.
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The government knowing where you are,that's a problem. That is a problem,
And so this is DNA. Thismay be a little bit different.
This is DNA collected and goes intoa criminal database that is there forever.
So what ends up happening. Let'ssay you get stopped for a traffic violation.
And by the way, do youknow anybody who has never been stopped
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for a traffic violation? I actuallyknow two people, No, one person.
One person who has never been stopped. Everybody else, including myself.
I mean, we always get stopped. So what do the police do.
They run your background check, andnow are they going to be able to
collect DNA and match it? Theydon't have to, however, if a
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crime is committed, they have theDNA. I'm a big fan of DNA
collection. Frankly, I'm also abig fan of a sperm donation for exactly
the same reasons that are kind ofobvious, and that is producing the DNA.
Now, most of the time it'sthey take a cheek swab and sometimes
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I think that's it. Sometimes youspit into a little dixie cup. But
most of the times, just acheek swab and they have you. It's
in the database. They can matchyou. And that's what happens. Whenever
there is an alleged crime. Theyget tested when you get stopped for a
traffic ticket. I don't know ifthis analogy even works because this whole issue
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is an invasion of privacy. Andthen someone getting a swab as they cross
the border, I can you knowwhat I can see if they've done it
illegally. I get that, youknow, as horrible as it is.
And the vast, fast, fast, fast majority of illegal immigrants to come
over the border are not criminals.The only crime is crossing the border.
They are not here to commit crimes. And how about the ones that come
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in legally? You know, HomelandSecurity can do all of that. You
know what the oversight is Homeland Securityalmost nothing. You know, the single
agency that has the least oversight thatexists is Homeland Security because of well the
word is security, because national securityis involved. So you know, I
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don't know how I feel about that. Clearly, the center in Georgetown is
kind of against it. And hereis one of the issues involved. First
of all, researchers that interviewed peoplesaid they were unaware of the DNA had
even been collected, which you know, if you're taking a cheek swab,
how do you not know DNA isbeing collected, and they're saying that people
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are not informed beforehand. And thepeople that are informed and coming over the
border, particularly picked up by theborder patrol, they are so frightened,
they are so vulnerable that the governmentcan do anything it wants to them,
and they're going to say yes,well, okay, at cheek swab putting
it into the DNA database and thestats that were being given. This part
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is kind of interesting and kind ofscary. Is that within the next few
years, and I'm talking about thenext five years, two thirds of the
database will be immigrants and people whohave been in the States have come over
and the government knows who they are. And I think short of being a
citizen or a Green card holder,you're in the database. I mean,
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I don't care if I'm in adatabase. Do you kneel care that your
data is in the database and theyhave your DNA, Well, I'd prefer
it not to be per se,I mean, do you care? Well,
but no, I've worked for schoolsand stuff, so I've been you
know, and we're an adoptive family, so I'm fingerprinted and everything else.
Yeah, I'm more concerned about thebad guys catching the bad guys. You
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know, as much as it isis an invasion, I'm more frightened of
someone who commits the crime potentially comingto my place and committing a crime and
grabbing them and putting them in prison. I think giving up your freedoms and
your privacy should be more valued toAmericans than screw your freedoms. However,
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if they do give me a fifteenpercent discount on those on that loaf of
bread I'm buying, yeah, goahead, take whatever you want. Not
a problem. Now a story thatat first glands this is out of the
Orange County Register, and that isCalifornians are behind more than they ever have
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in terms of their bill paying.And while that is and we're talking about
it in the night last two anda half years, that is bad news
because we're more behind, but weare less behind in the rest of the
country. And why is that?What is our problem? What do you
think the number one problem is aboutbeing behind in payments, mortgages, home
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payments. That is the problem.Here is a stat when I looked at
this is kind of stunning. Consumerdebts per capita for every man, woman,
and child in California is eighty seventhousand dollars per person per capita.
Okay, for the number of people, eighty percent of that tied to mortgages.
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That's up over two percent twenty onepercent five years. The typical American's
debt sixty one thousand as opposed toeighty seven thousand. Seventy percent of that
is mortgages, and that's up almostthree twenty two percent five years. Now
are most mortgages being paid? Youbet. There are two kinds of debt
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that you pay sort of no matterwhat. One is your home. You
don't want to lose your house,and two is your car, because it's
hard to get around without a car, particularly here in southern California. Other
than that, strangely enough, youcan go you can forego food or parts
of food. Plenty of people thatat the end of the month, or
eating pasta. You can certainly foregoclothing, even utilities. You know,
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people do live at least with theair conditioning off because they can't afford utilities.
But when it comes to home payments, you don't want to lose your
home payments for sure at all.So it's both good and bad news for
us. Strangely enough, considering whathappened in the pandemic. The rate of
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late pays is way down. Probablyhas to do with the fact that unemployment
is not a big deal. Weare terrifically employed with this economy. That's
it, guys, We're done untiltomorrow. A quick word about handle on
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and you can call me at eightseven seven five two zero eleven fifty seven
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