May 24, 2024 • 25 mins
The Justice Department sued Live Nation Entertainment, calling for the breakup of Ticketmaster owner. L.A suburb is testing drones that claim to ‘revolutionize’ 911 response. American Airlines backs off blaming 9yr old girl for being filmed in bathroom.
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You're listening to k I Am sixforty the bill Handle Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. You are listeningto the bill Handle show. Ye Am
six forty bill Handle Here it isa footy Friday eight o'clock. Of course,
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it's Foody Friday with Neil. Wedo that every single Friday. And
a couple of stories we're following you. We just did this in the news.
The NCAA and the five big conferenceshave agreed to pay student athletes,
which shouldn't be called student athletes.They're athletes. They're athletes students, and
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they deserve the money because they're responsiblefor bringing in those zillions of dollars to
the school. All right, Whatelse? Oh, new cops on the
Metro. The La City LAPD isputting up all kinds of new police officers
from various agencies also on the Metro. So now your chances of being killed
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on the Metro have dropped substantially fromone in ten to one in twenty.
That you're probably going to die now. Lawsuit announced yesterday, The Justice Apartment
sued Live Nation mainly because it ownsTicketmaster. Ticketmaster is really the defendant here,
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saying that Ticketmaster has illegally maintained amonopoly. So the lawsuit joined by
twenty nine states, including the USJustice Department in the District of Columbia,
accuses live Nation of leveraging this empireoficket control of tickets, not only that,
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control of venues and acts and concerts, I mean they control all of
it. And so the tactics,the government says have resulted in higher ticket
prices have stifled innovation and competition throughoutthe entire industry, which by the way,
is absolutely true. Does anybody Doesanybody doubt that Ticketmaster, with Ticketmaster,
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the junk fees, etc. You'reoverpaid. So now, taking a
page from Big Pharma, Ticketmaster says, oh, no, we're not.
We're not responsible for any of thoseextra fees. All those extra fees go
to the performers, and they goto the venues, and they go to
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the costs of putting on the concerts. So it really isn't our fault.
And if you look at the amountof money, the amount of profit we
make, and I read this andI'm going to bring this to I should
have put a star on this one. God, I love this is what
they're saying is that profits of somemajor major companies are twenty five percent,
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thirty percent. Their profit is onepoint nine percent. They make no profit.
Basically, Ticketmaster is a break even. They should be a nonprofit because
they make no money. Big Pharmaremember what it said when the Biden administration
said, you're charging too much moneyon thirty five of the drugs. They
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started with thirty five drugs. BigPharma said, Oh, you can't cut
prices for drugs. It hurts thepublic when you cut prices. The more
expensive our drugs are, the betteroff people are. I was just talking
to a friend of mine I hadlunch the other day who his wife has
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some sickness of some kind and wasin real trouble until some new antibody,
monoclinical antibody came out which literally helpedenormously. It's a brand new drug,
and it's being called a miracle drug, which it is. One hundred thousand
dollars per year. That's it.See they don't tell you that, right,
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They sort of leave that out inthe commercials. So what you know
what they do with the commercials?You have those people two people in a
bathtub holding hands and they're gonna endup shopping for cialis. Don't mention how
much it is. The other questionis how do two people in two separate
bathtubs screw each other? That isyep, I know how you ever seen
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a documentary of octopus I octopuses,that's the plural. How they have sex.
You've got one long tentacle going intothe female's private octopus parts. I
guess that's what you do with sialis. You have to have one long long
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schwantz. Anyway, I digress.Wait like to say on behalf of all
of the rest of the Morning crew, we should have done this. At
six oh five, we recind ourrelationship with this show and we are no
longer affiliated with whatever else happens.By the way, this is absolutely true.
There is nothing I'm saying that wasn'tabsolutely true. That's fine, okay,
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just just mentioning that. So thepoint is Ticketmaster and they are a
monopoly and they do control all ofit, and that you look at the
junk fees that are put on it. At least the airlines don't have the
balls to say, we're not makingany money on all of those junk fees.
We're breaking even at least they're honestabout it. Ticketmaster, come on,
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come on. Oh. By theway, the government fourteen years ago
allowed Ticketmaster to merge with Live Nation. It was the government that allowed it.
And now the official response from thegovernment is oop. Yes, that's
how the lawsuit starts. Wops.Oops, we made a mistake. So
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they want to break it up aswell they should. It is a monopoly,
it is all right. Now.There is a new drone that's being
tested. It's called the Responder andit is marketed. Is the first drone
built specifically to respond to nine toone one calls and it arrives at a
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scene and they've tested this in seventyseconds. A phone call is made by
a victim or someone who witnesses somekind of a shooting or medical emergency,
and boom on goes the drone andis flying overhead, giving first responders a
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shot video shot of where what,what's happening, And it makes all the
sense in the world. By theway, started by a twenty four year
old chief executive, and you evenhave open AAI. The CEO, Sam
Altman, is one of the investorsin this company. So already it's probably
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valued at forty eight billion dollars.I have no idea, but the guy's
twenty four years old who came upwith this? See, I think twenty
four year old billionaires to me areboring as hell. I like the idea
of eleven and twelve year old billionaireswho come up with ideas. That's you
know, you spend the lifetime workingyour ass off, putting away enough money
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so you can retire comfortably, ornot even retire comfortably so security a little
bit of a pension, and nowyou're eating dog food. Twenty four years
old a zillionaire, and he is. You have to see a picture of
him too. This guy's very,very smart. He has a lot of
hair and it looks like he puthis finger into a two twenty outlet frizz
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out. The hair goes interesting guyto say the least. So he came
up with this, And Hawthorne isthe first city that's actually going to test
this. Drones flying overhead, Andof course the civil Libertarians came out in
force the ACLU, raising objections thatdrones can be used for completely surrepetitious surveillance
that a helicopter could never perform,and our particular threat to privacy when can't
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combined with other technology like facial recognitionsoftware, infrared, night vision cameras,
microphones to record personal conversations. Kindof question to ask you there you are
in a school right or at homeor in a store, and someone calls
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nine to one and the police arrived, don't know where you are? Zip
up goes the drone with the microphonethat can actually pick up all the conversations
that are going on, as wellas in red at night to try to
track down the guy with the gunthat is holding a kindergarten class at bay
with a gun or an AR fifteenthreatening to shoot them all up? What
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kind of technology are you not infavor of that invades privacy? Or you're
at home? But you know this. Didn't they do the same thing when
we started using the air team withhelicopters. Yes, yes, aren't we
supposed to use whatever technology? Youwould think when'd you nail? You would
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think? But the civil libertarians,well there's a philosophy of the I heard
the ACLU. Better a thousand guiltypeople go free than one innocent person be
jailed. I go, wait aminute, let's look at the stats here.
You know, as tough as itis for one innocent person to be
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jailed. I get that. That'sunfair, that's unjust. You know,
hopeful we have a system that wecan undo that, we do the Innocence
Project. You know, there arepeople out there, but let's release a
thousand people who have committed crimes becausewe cannot let an innocent person be jailed.
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What does that mean, by theway, for law enforcement in general?
But by definition, aren't those criminalsinfringing on the civil liberties of the
people the victims? They don't bringthat up. They don't bring that up.
I'll tell you why, because it'snot governmental infringement. Private infringement,
for some reason is not as badas governmental infringement. So for example,
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a drone flying overhead and trying tofigure out where the bad guy is and
picks up conversations. You know,there are microphones that can pick up stuff
through windows of conversations. Technology ispretty up there, and so I guess
sometimes you need the ACLU. Someonedescribed the acl you at ninety five percent
of the time they are a painin the ass, They get in a
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way of society, They are horrific. Five percent of the time they are
priceless. Okay, I'll buy that. But let me put it this way.
Technology enables. Oh, by theway, here's another one. Someone's
had a heart attack, someone isin a car and equipment is needed,
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and the first responders are told,this is what's going on. There are
four people at a car, youneed four ambulances and that is figured out
immediately with a drone. Well,no, that's kind of an invasion of
privacy because you know, people incars that are bleeding to death really need
their privacy protected. They really do. Obviously, I have an idea.
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So you go on a website tobuy something, right, you have the
cookies or whatever. You have theability to opt in, right and say
you can take mind. And that'snew. By the way, the ability
to opt in or opt out isbrand new. How as citizens can't we
opt into? I want that technologyused on me, should I have a
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heart attack? Or to we optin? And then the people that are
worried about it, I mean youcan't because who do you know who's opting
in and opting out? Do youfly overhead? You got an active strology
bill. By the way, peopleare upset, why let me ask you
something about the A C l UH. Do you remember some of the
ACLU go to Routs and Shop orVaughan's and use their rewards card for that
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deal on Oreo cookies, anything fora five discount, right, Oh,
that is okay? Right, knowingevery place you've ever shopped, every place
you've ever gone, and what thefact that you like pepperoni pizza relative to
and all meat pizza? That thatis fine. There is no problem with
the privacy issue there. Oh god, it drives you nuts. Okay.
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Now I'm gonna to share with youa sort of handle on the law story
and talk about the vicissitudes of thelaw. How's neil, Neil? You
know what? What the hell?What word was that? Vicissitudesitudes? Isn't
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that when they make it so youcan't have babies? Yes, it is.
You get a vicissitude, Yeah,exactly. And this has to do
with a lawsuit against American Airlines,And this is it shows you how complicated
and how sloppy the law is.Let me tell you about an easy I
get these questions all the time.You owe me one thousand dollars. I
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have a promisory note. You don'tpay me a thousand dollars. I sue
you for one thousand dollars. That'svery clean. Okay, that's a clean
legal issue. Then you have adog is marking too loud next door?
What is too loud? I don'tknow. Or you have a soft tissue
injury. You're rear ended. OhI hurt? Like hell? What does
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that mean? Well, that's difficult, that's the point. So American Airlines
had a situation where last year oneof its flight attendants, Estes Carter Thompson,
a real piece of work, isalleged he was arrested. He's going
to be in front of a judgecoming up. What he did is videoed
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in lavatories, young girls going tothe lavatory, when they're going in there
and they're doing what they do.He was videoing it and he was caught,
and so a lawsuit hit. Asyou would imagine one nine year old
girl who is by herself, shewas flying to a tournament. You know
how airlines, you know, putthose stickers on those what do you call
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it plackers on your you know,when you're hanging off your neck, whatever
the hell they call it, andthe flight attendant works with you, and
you go by yourself and someone waitsfor you. It's kind of you know,
it's you can put kids on andthe oversight and the supervision is really
terrific. So she's flying and she'sgoing to a tournament, going to Disneyland
with a group of people. Andso here's what happened. Cockroach flight attendant
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videos heard. They discover the videoin the restroom, They do a search
warrant, go to this cockroach's houseand they discover lots of videos of him
doing exactly that. So, asyou can imagine, the family sues.
Oh boy do they sue. Nowhere's what American Airlines does. And this
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is a bonehead move of bonehead moves, like beyond comprehension. They blame the
girl. They actually defend themselves sayingit is her fault because she either knew
or should have known, that shewas secretly being videoed. Go how the
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hell did that happen? And AmericanAirlines was immediately tagged. And here's what
they said. They said that thisanswer to the lawsuit, this complaint was
as a result of outside legal counselretained by their insurance company. So when
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you talk about American Airlines, wheneverthere's a legal issue like this, American
laying Lines doesn't have its own lawyersthat are on staff. They do have
it of counsel, or they dohave one lawyer that sort of oversees everything,
but doesn't answer complaints, doesn't goto court. That's turned over to
their insurance company, okay, tohandle any legal issue. And the insurance
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companies don't have their own lawyers.What the insurance companies do is they hire
lawyers, law firms that specialize incorporate defense work. Much like when you
sue Geico or usue All State whatever, they don't defend, they have lawyers
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that do that. And so that'snot on a contract basis. And so
here's what Americans said, We sureas hell didn't do that. It was
the lawyers who were hired by theinsurance companies. And frankly, no one
even looked at it among American Airlines, which is true. Now there is
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corporate counsel that oversees it all.But how often you think American Airlines is
getting sued? Right? You haveX hundreds of millions of passengers or tens
of millions of passengers, and lawsuitsfly like crazy, and thousands of answers
are filed when it sued. Whenthe company is sued, you have to
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answer a lawsuit, right, youhave to how many? And these lawsuits
are twenty thirty forty pages thick.So is someone on American Airlines staff going
to read all of this? Ofcourse not? Could they at this point
sue them? Bill sue? Whocan the airlines sue that count? No?
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No, absolutely not, absolutely not, because it was simply it's not
even malpractice, it's something it's probablyboilerplate that they came out. Whatever a
company is sued, well, youknew or should have known, that X
happened. The problem is that Xhappens to be a nine year old girl
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that was videoed inside of an AmericanAirlines toilet on a flight. An American
Airline says it's her fault through itslawsuit. So let's come back. I'm
going to finish the story, andthat I'm going to tell you what of
course the lawyer. Two things lawyerdoes is respond to American Airlines response and
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the damages. This is a lawyerwho practices personal injury. And let me
tell you, and I'm out arguingthat he is. Well, I actually
am arguing that this is typically whathappens in lawsuits of almost any kind,
including soft tissue, including you getrear ended at three miles per hour?
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Are allegations like this. I wantto make it absolutely clear this may absolutely
be absolutely true the facts surrounding thiscase. So I want to really disclaim
this. So now American Airlines issuedby the nine year old girl's family,
and American Airlines in the answer tothe complaint, blames her. The answer
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says, you either knew or shouldhave known you could be videoed in the
restroom, if that is as crazyas it sounds, And so American Airlines
gets nailed. American Airlines says,hey, listen, here's what happened.
It's not us. It's the lawyerthat was hired by our insurance company.
And of course it wasn't us.Now, the family's lawyer says, they
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only apologized because they got caught andthey are despicable, horrible, a company
that's despicable and horrible, and weshould go after him and they are.
So what are the damages? They'reasking for more than a million dollars.
And this is typical whenever any companyor individual is being sued, and that
is the damages. And in thecase, I'm not saying this is not
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true. For this young lady.But it's typical. My client will never
be able to sleep again, We'llnever be able to get in an elevator,
we'll never be able to talk toany buddy again, cannot even look
at airplanes or cannot get on anairplane, will have psychological damage for the
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rest of her life. I mean, and that is typical. And again,
I want to make absolutely I wantto make it clear that I don't
know if this is the case.I do know that the lawsuit says this,
But that is typical, Okay,very aggressive. It's the here's what
the defendant did ruin my life foreverand ever by these actions. So with
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that, let's talk about the factthat it has to settle, and it
will settle instantly. Why is thatbecause American Airlines think you could go to
trial and allow a nine year oldto go on the stand and talk about
the damage is a video and apsychologist go and talk about how her life
is screwed up. Now therein liesanother problem. You have heard prosecutors not
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go forward with cases of damages torape victims. For example, They'll put
one up and they can charge thethey can charge the perpetrator eight times but
they're not going to put the otherseven up. They'll just do with one.
Why is that because they have torelive what happens. So this little
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girl becomes a witness and she isbeing questioned as to what happened. She
has to relive what happened in thatAmerican Airlines bathroom. And there is what
makes it so difficult. I toldyou the law is very sloppy. You
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don't win, you don't lose.Which way do you go on this?
That is the defense lawyer beats theprosecuting lawyer. The girl's lawyer going to
say, really, we have toput you on the stand. And what
do the parents do? Or doesAmerican Airlines not take a chance that it's
going to happen because a jury isgoing to go out of its mind with
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a nine year old girl being videoedin the restroom and an American Airlines employee
did this. Which way would youchoose to go? Well, if you're
an American Airlines, you gotta settle. And then you have the plaintsif attorney
saying want lots and lots of money, You're not giving me enough. And
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so you know, the parents makethe ultimate choice, of course, and
I guarantee you that she is seeinga psychologist anyway, But you bring the
psychologist sport and talk about her lifelongdamages forever and ever and ever. Now,
I can see if you have ifa young girl has been molested over
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a period of time by someone shetrusts, a family member, that I
can see lifetime being videoed in abathroom. I can see that it's very
tough. Does that mean she'll neverbe able to trust an adult again,
She'll never be able to have anymeaning conversation with anybody again? I mean,
and by the way, lawyers dothat. That's their job to maximize
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damages. It would be remiss ofa lawyer not to go balls to the
wall and make every allegation possible.So this is typical. This is the
kind of stuff that I answer onhandle on the law, and I get
these kinds of questions, and Icome up with those kinds of answers.
Most of the time I just straightout malpractice. Someone will ask me about
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some statute and I will point itout and I will make it up.
Really, go no, no,If you want a real lawyer, go
to pay for a lawyer. Thisis free legal advice, and you're probably
overpaying. All right, this isKFI AM six forty live everywhere on the
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six forty bill Handle Here it isa footy Friday eight o'clock. Of course,
(00:25):
it's Foody Friday with Neil. Wedo that every single Friday. And
a couple of stories we're following you. We just did this in the news.
The NCAA and the five big conferenceshave agreed to pay student athletes,
which shouldn't be called student athletes.They're athletes. They're athletes students, and
(00:49):
they deserve the money because they're responsiblefor bringing in those zillions of dollars to
the school. All right, Whatelse? Oh, new cops on the
Metro. The La City LAPD isputting up all kinds of new police officers
from various agencies also on the Metro. So now your chances of being killed
(01:12):
on the Metro have dropped substantially fromone in ten to one in twenty.
That you're probably going to die now. Lawsuit announced yesterday, The Justice Apartment
sued Live Nation mainly because it ownsTicketmaster. Ticketmaster is really the defendant here,
(01:32):
saying that Ticketmaster has illegally maintained amonopoly. So the lawsuit joined by
twenty nine states, including the USJustice Department in the District of Columbia,
accuses live Nation of leveraging this empireoficket control of tickets, not only that,
(01:53):
control of venues and acts and concerts, I mean they control all of
it. And so the tactics,the government says have resulted in higher ticket
prices have stifled innovation and competition throughoutthe entire industry, which by the way,
is absolutely true. Does anybody Doesanybody doubt that Ticketmaster, with Ticketmaster,
(02:14):
the junk fees, etc. You'reoverpaid. So now, taking a
page from Big Pharma, Ticketmaster says, oh, no, we're not.
We're not responsible for any of thoseextra fees. All those extra fees go
to the performers, and they goto the venues, and they go to
(02:38):
the costs of putting on the concerts. So it really isn't our fault.
And if you look at the amountof money, the amount of profit we
make, and I read this andI'm going to bring this to I should
have put a star on this one. God, I love this is what
they're saying is that profits of somemajor major companies are twenty five percent,
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thirty percent. Their profit is onepoint nine percent. They make no profit.
Basically, Ticketmaster is a break even. They should be a nonprofit because
they make no money. Big Pharmaremember what it said when the Biden administration
said, you're charging too much moneyon thirty five of the drugs. They
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started with thirty five drugs. BigPharma said, Oh, you can't cut
prices for drugs. It hurts thepublic when you cut prices. The more
expensive our drugs are, the betteroff people are. I was just talking
to a friend of mine I hadlunch the other day who his wife has
(03:47):
some sickness of some kind and wasin real trouble until some new antibody,
monoclinical antibody came out which literally helpedenormously. It's a brand new drug,
and it's being called a miracle drug, which it is. One hundred thousand
dollars per year. That's it.See they don't tell you that, right,
(04:12):
They sort of leave that out inthe commercials. So what you know
what they do with the commercials?You have those people two people in a
bathtub holding hands and they're gonna endup shopping for cialis. Don't mention how
much it is. The other questionis how do two people in two separate
bathtubs screw each other? That isyep, I know how you ever seen
(04:34):
a documentary of octopus I octopuses,that's the plural. How they have sex.
You've got one long tentacle going intothe female's private octopus parts. I
guess that's what you do with sialis. You have to have one long long
(04:56):
schwantz. Anyway, I digress.Wait like to say on behalf of all
of the rest of the Morning crew, we should have done this. At
six oh five, we recind ourrelationship with this show and we are no
longer affiliated with whatever else happens.By the way, this is absolutely true.
There is nothing I'm saying that wasn'tabsolutely true. That's fine, okay,
(05:20):
just just mentioning that. So thepoint is Ticketmaster and they are a
monopoly and they do control all ofit, and that you look at the
junk fees that are put on it. At least the airlines don't have the
balls to say, we're not makingany money on all of those junk fees.
We're breaking even at least they're honestabout it. Ticketmaster, come on,
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come on. Oh. By theway, the government fourteen years ago
allowed Ticketmaster to merge with Live Nation. It was the government that allowed it.
And now the official response from thegovernment is oop. Yes, that's
how the lawsuit starts. Wops.Oops, we made a mistake. So
(06:12):
they want to break it up aswell they should. It is a monopoly,
it is all right. Now.There is a new drone that's being
tested. It's called the Responder andit is marketed. Is the first drone
built specifically to respond to nine toone one calls and it arrives at a
(06:34):
scene and they've tested this in seventyseconds. A phone call is made by
a victim or someone who witnesses somekind of a shooting or medical emergency,
and boom on goes the drone andis flying overhead, giving first responders a
(06:55):
shot video shot of where what,what's happening, And it makes all the
sense in the world. By theway, started by a twenty four year
old chief executive, and you evenhave open AAI. The CEO, Sam
Altman, is one of the investorsin this company. So already it's probably
(07:15):
valued at forty eight billion dollars.I have no idea, but the guy's
twenty four years old who came upwith this? See, I think twenty
four year old billionaires to me areboring as hell. I like the idea
of eleven and twelve year old billionaireswho come up with ideas. That's you
know, you spend the lifetime workingyour ass off, putting away enough money
(07:36):
so you can retire comfortably, ornot even retire comfortably so security a little
bit of a pension, and nowyou're eating dog food. Twenty four years
old a zillionaire, and he is. You have to see a picture of
him too. This guy's very,very smart. He has a lot of
hair and it looks like he puthis finger into a two twenty outlet frizz
(08:03):
out. The hair goes interesting guyto say the least. So he came
up with this, And Hawthorne isthe first city that's actually going to test
this. Drones flying overhead, Andof course the civil Libertarians came out in
force the ACLU, raising objections thatdrones can be used for completely surrepetitious surveillance
that a helicopter could never perform,and our particular threat to privacy when can't
(08:28):
combined with other technology like facial recognitionsoftware, infrared, night vision cameras,
microphones to record personal conversations. Kindof question to ask you there you are
in a school right or at homeor in a store, and someone calls
(08:48):
nine to one and the police arrived, don't know where you are? Zip
up goes the drone with the microphonethat can actually pick up all the conversations
that are going on, as wellas in red at night to try to
track down the guy with the gunthat is holding a kindergarten class at bay
with a gun or an AR fifteenthreatening to shoot them all up? What
(09:13):
kind of technology are you not infavor of that invades privacy? Or you're
at home? But you know this. Didn't they do the same thing when
we started using the air team withhelicopters. Yes, yes, aren't we
supposed to use whatever technology? Youwould think when'd you nail? You would
(09:33):
think? But the civil libertarians,well there's a philosophy of the I heard
the ACLU. Better a thousand guiltypeople go free than one innocent person be
jailed. I go, wait aminute, let's look at the stats here.
You know, as tough as itis for one innocent person to be
(09:56):
jailed. I get that. That'sunfair, that's unjust. You know,
hopeful we have a system that wecan undo that, we do the Innocence
Project. You know, there arepeople out there, but let's release a
thousand people who have committed crimes becausewe cannot let an innocent person be jailed.
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What does that mean, by theway, for law enforcement in general?
But by definition, aren't those criminalsinfringing on the civil liberties of the
people the victims? They don't bringthat up. They don't bring that up.
I'll tell you why, because it'snot governmental infringement. Private infringement,
for some reason is not as badas governmental infringement. So for example,
(10:41):
a drone flying overhead and trying tofigure out where the bad guy is and
picks up conversations. You know,there are microphones that can pick up stuff
through windows of conversations. Technology ispretty up there, and so I guess
sometimes you need the ACLU. Someonedescribed the acl you at ninety five percent
of the time they are a painin the ass, They get in a
(11:05):
way of society, They are horrific. Five percent of the time they are
priceless. Okay, I'll buy that. But let me put it this way.
Technology enables. Oh, by theway, here's another one. Someone's
had a heart attack, someone isin a car and equipment is needed,
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and the first responders are told,this is what's going on. There are
four people at a car, youneed four ambulances and that is figured out
immediately with a drone. Well,no, that's kind of an invasion of
privacy because you know, people incars that are bleeding to death really need
their privacy protected. They really do. Obviously, I have an idea.
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So you go on a website tobuy something, right, you have the
cookies or whatever. You have theability to opt in, right and say
you can take mind. And that'snew. By the way, the ability
to opt in or opt out isbrand new. How as citizens can't we
opt into? I want that technologyused on me, should I have a
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heart attack? Or to we optin? And then the people that are
worried about it, I mean youcan't because who do you know who's opting
in and opting out? Do youfly overhead? You got an active strology
bill. By the way, peopleare upset, why let me ask you
something about the A C l UH. Do you remember some of the
ACLU go to Routs and Shop orVaughan's and use their rewards card for that
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deal on Oreo cookies, anything fora five discount, right, Oh,
that is okay? Right, knowingevery place you've ever shopped, every place
you've ever gone, and what thefact that you like pepperoni pizza relative to
and all meat pizza? That thatis fine. There is no problem with
the privacy issue there. Oh god, it drives you nuts. Okay.
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Now I'm gonna to share with youa sort of handle on the law story
and talk about the vicissitudes of thelaw. How's neil, Neil? You
know what? What the hell?What word was that? Vicissitudesitudes? Isn't
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that when they make it so youcan't have babies? Yes, it is.
You get a vicissitude, Yeah,exactly. And this has to do
with a lawsuit against American Airlines,And this is it shows you how complicated
and how sloppy the law is.Let me tell you about an easy I
get these questions all the time.You owe me one thousand dollars. I
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have a promisory note. You don'tpay me a thousand dollars. I sue
you for one thousand dollars. That'svery clean. Okay, that's a clean
legal issue. Then you have adog is marking too loud next door?
What is too loud? I don'tknow. Or you have a soft tissue
injury. You're rear ended. OhI hurt? Like hell? What does
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that mean? Well, that's difficult, that's the point. So American Airlines
had a situation where last year oneof its flight attendants, Estes Carter Thompson,
a real piece of work, isalleged he was arrested. He's going
to be in front of a judgecoming up. What he did is videoed
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in lavatories, young girls going tothe lavatory, when they're going in there
and they're doing what they do.He was videoing it and he was caught,
and so a lawsuit hit. Asyou would imagine one nine year old
girl who is by herself, shewas flying to a tournament. You know
how airlines, you know, putthose stickers on those what do you call
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it plackers on your you know,when you're hanging off your neck, whatever
the hell they call it, andthe flight attendant works with you, and
you go by yourself and someone waitsfor you. It's kind of you know,
it's you can put kids on andthe oversight and the supervision is really
terrific. So she's flying and she'sgoing to a tournament, going to Disneyland
with a group of people. Andso here's what happened. Cockroach flight attendant
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videos heard. They discover the videoin the restroom, They do a search
warrant, go to this cockroach's houseand they discover lots of videos of him
doing exactly that. So, asyou can imagine, the family sues.
Oh boy do they sue. Nowhere's what American Airlines does. And this
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is a bonehead move of bonehead moves, like beyond comprehension. They blame the
girl. They actually defend themselves sayingit is her fault because she either knew
or should have known, that shewas secretly being videoed. Go how the
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hell did that happen? And AmericanAirlines was immediately tagged. And here's what
they said. They said that thisanswer to the lawsuit, this complaint was
as a result of outside legal counselretained by their insurance company. So when
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you talk about American Airlines, wheneverthere's a legal issue like this, American
laying Lines doesn't have its own lawyersthat are on staff. They do have
it of counsel, or they dohave one lawyer that sort of oversees everything,
but doesn't answer complaints, doesn't goto court. That's turned over to
their insurance company, okay, tohandle any legal issue. And the insurance
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companies don't have their own lawyers.What the insurance companies do is they hire
lawyers, law firms that specialize incorporate defense work. Much like when you
sue Geico or usue All State whatever, they don't defend, they have lawyers
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that do that. And so that'snot on a contract basis. And so
here's what Americans said, We sureas hell didn't do that. It was
the lawyers who were hired by theinsurance companies. And frankly, no one
even looked at it among American Airlines, which is true. Now there is
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corporate counsel that oversees it all.But how often you think American Airlines is
getting sued? Right? You haveX hundreds of millions of passengers or tens
of millions of passengers, and lawsuitsfly like crazy, and thousands of answers
are filed when it sued. Whenthe company is sued, you have to
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answer a lawsuit, right, youhave to how many? And these lawsuits
are twenty thirty forty pages thick.So is someone on American Airlines staff going
to read all of this? Ofcourse not? Could they at this point
sue them? Bill sue? Whocan the airlines sue that count? No?
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No, absolutely not, absolutely not, because it was simply it's not
even malpractice, it's something it's probablyboilerplate that they came out. Whatever a
company is sued, well, youknew or should have known, that X
happened. The problem is that Xhappens to be a nine year old girl
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that was videoed inside of an AmericanAirlines toilet on a flight. An American
Airline says it's her fault through itslawsuit. So let's come back. I'm
going to finish the story, andthat I'm going to tell you what of
course the lawyer. Two things lawyerdoes is respond to American Airlines response and
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the damages. This is a lawyerwho practices personal injury. And let me
tell you, and I'm out arguingthat he is. Well, I actually
am arguing that this is typically whathappens in lawsuits of almost any kind,
including soft tissue, including you getrear ended at three miles per hour?
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Are allegations like this. I wantto make it absolutely clear this may absolutely
be absolutely true the facts surrounding thiscase. So I want to really disclaim
this. So now American Airlines issuedby the nine year old girl's family,
and American Airlines in the answer tothe complaint, blames her. The answer
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says, you either knew or shouldhave known you could be videoed in the
restroom, if that is as crazyas it sounds, And so American Airlines
gets nailed. American Airlines says,hey, listen, here's what happened.
It's not us. It's the lawyerthat was hired by our insurance company.
And of course it wasn't us.Now, the family's lawyer says, they
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only apologized because they got caught andthey are despicable, horrible, a company
that's despicable and horrible, and weshould go after him and they are.
So what are the damages? They'reasking for more than a million dollars.
And this is typical whenever any companyor individual is being sued, and that
is the damages. And in thecase, I'm not saying this is not
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true. For this young lady.But it's typical. My client will never
be able to sleep again, We'llnever be able to get in an elevator,
we'll never be able to talk toany buddy again, cannot even look
at airplanes or cannot get on anairplane, will have psychological damage for the
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rest of her life. I mean, and that is typical. And again,
I want to make absolutely I wantto make it clear that I don't
know if this is the case.I do know that the lawsuit says this,
But that is typical, Okay,very aggressive. It's the here's what
the defendant did ruin my life foreverand ever by these actions. So with
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that, let's talk about the factthat it has to settle, and it
will settle instantly. Why is thatbecause American Airlines think you could go to
trial and allow a nine year oldto go on the stand and talk about
the damage is a video and apsychologist go and talk about how her life
is screwed up. Now therein liesanother problem. You have heard prosecutors not
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go forward with cases of damages torape victims. For example, They'll put
one up and they can charge thethey can charge the perpetrator eight times but
they're not going to put the otherseven up. They'll just do with one.
Why is that because they have torelive what happens. So this little
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girl becomes a witness and she isbeing questioned as to what happened. She
has to relive what happened in thatAmerican Airlines bathroom. And there is what
makes it so difficult. I toldyou the law is very sloppy. You
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don't win, you don't lose.Which way do you go on this?
That is the defense lawyer beats theprosecuting lawyer. The girl's lawyer going to
say, really, we have toput you on the stand. And what
do the parents do? Or doesAmerican Airlines not take a chance that it's
going to happen because a jury isgoing to go out of its mind with
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a nine year old girl being videoedin the restroom and an American Airlines employee
did this. Which way would youchoose to go? Well, if you're
an American Airlines, you gotta settle. And then you have the plaintsif attorney
saying want lots and lots of money, You're not giving me enough. And
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so you know, the parents makethe ultimate choice, of course, and
I guarantee you that she is seeinga psychologist anyway, But you bring the
psychologist sport and talk about her lifelongdamages forever and ever and ever. Now,
I can see if you have ifa young girl has been molested over
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a period of time by someone shetrusts, a family member, that I
can see lifetime being videoed in abathroom. I can see that it's very
tough. Does that mean she'll neverbe able to trust an adult again,
She'll never be able to have anymeaning conversation with anybody again? I mean,
and by the way, lawyers dothat. That's their job to maximize
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damages. It would be remiss ofa lawyer not to go balls to the
wall and make every allegation possible.So this is typical. This is the
kind of stuff that I answer onhandle on the law, and I get
these kinds of questions, and Icome up with those kinds of answers.
Most of the time I just straightout malpractice. Someone will ask me about
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some statute and I will point itout and I will make it up.
Really, go no, no,If you want a real lawyer, go
to pay for a lawyer. Thisis free legal advice, and you're probably
overpaying. All right, this isKFI AM six forty live everywhere on the
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