BHS - 7A – Trump Found Guilty | Mexico’s First Female President

Trump found guilty on all 34 felony counts, now what happens? Trump’s conviction jolts the race, but will it influence the outcome? Mexico is about to elect its first female president on Sunday. Who is Claudia Sheinbaum? Google rolls back AI search answers after it told users to eat glue.

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to bill Handle on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. You are
listening to the bill Handle show.I am six forty bill Handle. Here.
It is a Friday morning, Maythirty one, and Okay, obviously

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we're going to cover a whole lotof what happened yesterday. The conviction of
Donald Trump thirty four counts thirty fourfelony counts. Basically, well, technically
it was falsifying business records for thepurpose of interfering with the election, and

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falsifying business records is a misdemeanor.However, if it's for the purpose or
part of committing a crime, thenit becomes a felony. He was not
charged with interference of the election.He was charged and convicted of the false
business records and the crime was andthat is a big issue among conservatives saying

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there was no crime. Well therewas, but they didn't talk about the
underlying crime of the interference, becausethat's not the way the law works.
And so you hear a lot ofconservatives saying, but there was no crime,
The underlying crime was interference. Andso there's a technical issue that is

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basically going to be ignored. Thatpart when it goes to on appeals,
and of course Trump will appeal theverdict. Of course he will. Now
you notice that every time there isany kind of a defendant, the lawyer
says, we're going to appeal,always, almost never to the appeal.
You know why appeals cost a fortune. Appeals court lawyers. Appeals lawyers are

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even two three hundred dollars more anhour on top of the six hundred dollars
that lawyer's charge for trial. SoI'm going to spend a little bit of
time what's happening legally, and thenthe next segment, I'm going to talk
about the politics of it. Andcoming up at eight o'clock we're going to
hear from the president. He hasa presser that's scheduled, so obviously we're
going to cover that, all right, thirty four counts of business records violations.

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So now what happens He is aconvicted felon. Never happened before,
obviously, And one of the thingsabout the trial, and keep in mind,
a former president on trial has neverhappened in the history of the United
States, especially a criminal trial.One of the things is during the course
of the trial, the prosecution almostnever used his name, certainly never saying

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former President Trump. It was alwaysthe defendant, the defendant. I mean,
the way this was laid out isthey took into account that, of
course you're talking about a former president, and not that everybody didn't know it.
It's as the prosecution wanted to putin the jurors heads. This is
simply a criminal defendant. That's it, and therein lies the entire issue of

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sentencing. Okay, so what's comingup, Well, let me tell you
about the sentencing. Since the seeinga schedule for July eleventh, the Republican
National Convention is July fifteenth, Idon't know what Mersham was doing. The
judge, I think he's out ofhis mind. How do you have a
sentencing four days or three four daysbefore the national convention of which Trump is

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going to be nominated as the Republicannominee, and you're going to sentence him
four days before that? Tell methat's not political. And by the way,
those Trump supporters who argue that thatis political, I think it is.
It's a very fast sentencing. Sentencingin many cases take way long,

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much longer than this, So therereally is no good reason. And as
far as sentencing is concerned because remember, this is a classy felony, it's
the lowest level of felony that existsin New York. And is he getting
probation? What do you do witha former president? This is a first
time offense, first time conviction.Yesterday I heard a former prosecutor with the

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DA's office in Manhattan, exactly thesame office that Alvin Bragg ran in the
office that prosecuted him. And shewas thirty years working in the DA's office,
and she said, let's eliminate Trump, the name Trump from this.
Let's just eliminate it. Okay,this is Joe Schmoe, John Smith,

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anybody else, which is what thelaw should regard Trump as former President Trump,
And hopefully that's what the jury did, ignore the fact that as a
former president, simply looking at aUS citizen or a US resident or maybe
even an illegal in front of thecourt as a criminal defendant, because the

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law should treat everybody the same,right, that's the premise. She said
that if there were anybody else infront of the judge for sentencing, same
judge, three things or several thingsin this case are very different. One
a judge in sentencing looks at remorse. Remorse is very important in terms of

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sentencing. Do you think Trump isgoing to show any remorse? Not only
is he not going to show remorse, he's going to lay into the judge
calling it's a political witch hunt,telling me that he was ordered to convict
and give jury instructions because Joe Bidenmake that decision. So I guess call

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the judge to call the jurors andforce him to do what they did.
I mean, I don't know,it's crazy. So you got the remorse
issue. Then you have the factthat it's not only a defendant who's being
convicted of felonies, it's someone whois sitting on three open criminal indictments in
three other jurisdictions. And those arenot small time, classy felonies. That

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is big time felonies that have beencharged in other jurisdictions. That plays a
part into it. And someone whois out there having and having violated a
gag order ten times that this judgeissued. That prosecutor said, you put

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all of that together, Joe Schmoewould see jail time, Absolutely see jail
time. Is this going to happen? No, No, He's going to
get probation. And what's fascinating isand it's on appeals on appeal, and
it'll be everything will be appealed.And the other analysis about the trial yesterday

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is the pundits came in. Ofcourse, they brought in prosecutors, former
prosecutors, former defense attorneys, currentdefense attorneys who have done close to this
kind of work, federal defense attorneys, and the general consensus is the defense
blew it. The defense simply blewthis trial. They concentrated on stuff that

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was irrelevant. They said that jurorswould be that witnesses we would be brought
to the stand, which never were. And one of the rules is you
can't promise there's going to be awitness in opening statements and then have no
witness. The jury immediately goes whatand they went in a direction that was

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basically irrelevant to the charges prosecution.It was argued that they overdid it.
Closing statements were five hours, andeverybody or many people said, night,
come on, that's crazy. Butothers said that during those five hours all
the dots were connected, that ingeneral, the prosecution did a much better

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job. Okay, that's that.I could go on forever on that one,
but obviously, our time is limited. Let me tell you it was
a day in history yesterday. It'sfirst time that a former president of the
United States was convicted of a criminalact. WHOA, And the jury came
down thirty four thirty four counts twelvezero unanimous verdict has to be and the

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all thirty four counts came down.And it happened fast. Nine and a
half hours deliberations. I mean,that wasn't that fast. It was on
the fast side. But the wayit was read, boy, that for
fore women of the jury just wentguilty, guilty, guilty, guilty,
guilty, guilty, I mean straightdown. I mean it took a matter
of literally like seconds. All right. So what's the political fallout, because

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this is as political as it iscriminal and historical. All Right. The
political fallout is that former President Trumphas called this a disgrace. We're going
to hear more about this at eighto'clock and I'll tell you what he's going
to say. It's a disgrace.And it was rigged. And it was

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Joe Biden who ordered this, thatit was the democratic administration that is violating
the Constitution by ordering this trial andordered the judge to do what he did.
And I have yet to hear whetherhe Biden ordered the jury, don't
know, but certainly that it wasrigged. Now, also keep in mind,

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do you remember, of course youdo, that Joe Biden's win was
rigged. Do you know who startedthat? Former President Trump? Because the
polls were sort of going not hisway in the twenty twenty election, he
said, this election is rigged.If I lose this election, it is

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a rigged election by the Democrats andBiden. And that was picked up instantly,
not only by the MAGA followers,but by the Republican members of Congress,
Republican pundits, Republican political political leaders. And guess what's going on right

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now? Yep, we agree thiswas a rigged trial. This was contrived.
The judge conflicted, the judge atthe order of Joe Biden, the
conviction. The instructions were rigged,which, by the way, a quick
point out of the instructions. You'regonna hear a lot of that from Republicans

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saying that the very instructions were rigged. You know, both sides have to
agree on instructions, The defense andthe prosecution sit down, and then I
agree what the jury instructions will besort of leaving that out of the mix.
And during the trial, look howmany Republicans' leaders were there to bend

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the knee. Donald Trump made itvery very clear, you come up and
you support me, Mike Johnson,Speaker of the House, governors, senators,
and so the tune is there willbe if he loses a rigged election.

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And the real scary part of allthis is how the facts have just
been turned around that Joe Biden isa dictator in this country. We have
a country that is no longer aconstitutional country. We now have a country
that is falling apart, and it'sJoe Biden's fault. And if President Trump

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gets elected, he will bring backthe country to its constitutionality. He will
save the United States. And thescary part about me, and this just
proves the point it really does,is he has already said that if he
is elected, the Justice Department theFBI will be gutted, and he will
only allow people who believe in theconstitution to be in those departments. Only

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people who believe in the constitution,because now the people who are in the
DOJ in the FBI do not believein the Constitution of the United States.
They are not true Americans. Now, keep in mind, the president has,
when it comes to enforcement of thelaw, virtually unlimited power. He
has said that those Congress people votedagainst him, voted for impeachment, will

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be prosecuted and will go to prison. He has said that the January sixth
insurgents are heroes and they are hostages, and he will pardon all of them.
The world has just turned over towhere I just don't understand what's going
on. I almost wish that hewas acquitted yesterday and have him say America

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is still a constitutional power, thatthe juror stood up for America and acquitted
me. I think I wish thatwould have happened, because in the alternative,
America is rigged. It is adictatorship. And the equivalent is there
is no such thing as a freeelection except if Donald Donald Trump wins,

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then it is a free election.If Joe Biden wins, we are not
a democracy and there is no suchthing as a free election. I am
not exaggerating on that one. It'sI tell you, the world has really
turned around. Now. Is theworld going to fall apart if Trump becomes
president? No, there for fouryears. Americans are very resilient, you

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know, that's just who we are. And the fear that America is going
to be completely the whole concept Americawill be exploded and will never be the
same country. Yeah, we will. After Trump becomes president, becomes president,
does this four years and we comeback. Will there be a move
to have him have unlimited terms andchange the constitution? Of course it will

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be. Is it going to happen? It will not switch gears for a
moment because we're going to go backto of course, what's happening with Trump.
There is another election coming up thisSunday, and it's pretty important to
us. And this is for thepresidency of Mexico and a lot of what
happens in Mexico, a lot ofwhat happens is with us deals with Mexico

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and them dealing with us. Andit is almost certain that it's going to
be the first female president of Mexicanhistory. Claudia Shinebomb, a Jewish woman
with a PhD an injury and engineering, and this is an historic event.
First of all, Mexico is avirtual one hundred percent Catholic country and you
got a jew who's going to bepresident, and she has a commanding lead

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in the polls. I mean she'sgoing to get elected. She has been
endorsed by the president now on thisManuel Lopez Obadador, who has mentored her
over the years. She has beenbasically under his wing her entire, her
entire political career. She's the formermayor of Mexico City. And there is

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a difference in terms of their style. I mean, there's no question they're
very different people, but in termsof substance, it's basically the same.
It's much like Pope Francis style isvery different than other popes. Bottom line
is same stuff. There is verylittle different. So she has said that

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every campaign stop, she's simply goingto be a continuation of Lopez or Obadador,
and she echoes the message government shouldkeep a tight grip on the energy
industry, nationalized, guide the economyfor the benefit of the poor. She's
more socialist than not. And hereis the style that's different. She occasionally

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singles signals she's going to be independent. Wrong. She does have a different
style. She looks at a datadriven view of governance. Obrador was just
this wild, off the charts guywho would give impromptu speeches, didn't look
at facts and figures. He wasvery off the cuff. We used to

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have a president like that, butMexico's former Mexican Mexico's former foreign minister says
there's no daylight between them at all. She said she's going to be independent.
So what does she do well interms of her governance. It's data
driven, relies on analytics more thanoff the cuff orchestrations of issues. By

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the way, the Mexican president andthis makes a lot of sense. There
aren't two terms, and I wishwe had this issue. I wish we
did this one six year term.That's it. You don't run again,
so there's no politicking. You're notraising money. All a president does is
governed for six years gone. Thatmakes so much sense. She's biblingual,

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speaks perfect English, why because shelived in the Bay Area in her thirties,
lowpads open our door, doesn't speakEnglish at all, doesn't really care
about foreign relations. There are someissues she'll have to navigate, relations between
the US and Mexico, and theborder being one of them, and the

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border here in this country cannot becontrolled without the cooperation of the Mexican authorities.
Why is the number of illegal immigrantscrossing the border the undocumented has dropped
so dramatically no matter what Trump andthe Republicans say, it has dropped because
Mexico is enforcing the border on theirside. That helps enormously for US,

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and that looks like it's going tocontinue because it's so important. Because the
border is so important to us,that makes it very important to Mexico.
Although Mexico, the more people thatleave Mexico to come to the US,
the better the economy is in Mexicobecause the money comes back. And organized
crime, boy, it has donereally well under Obadador. Why his policy

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is hugs not bullets? That worked, didn't it? A third of Mexico
is controlled by gangs. A thirdthey control the border, the drugs.
The cartels are controlling smuggling of people, drugs coming in violence. So we'll
see what she has to do.Quick word about who she is. She

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grew up in a leftist home,upper middle class Mexico City. She studied
ballet and French. Okay, typicalgirl. Can I allow to say that
her mom was a biology professor,her dad was a chemical engineer. Her
grandparents were Lithuanian and Bulgarian Jews whofled persecution in the early nineteen hundreds.
This is what my grandmother did,is fled Poland in the nineteen twenties,

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and my mother was born in Brazilagain. And that was why I was
born in Brazil. By the way, her Jewish background hasn't even emerged.
She accompanied her first husband, aleftist student, and they went to San
Francisco to live for four years ninetyone ninety five. She got involved with
a leftist group of people, butat the same time she was studying science.

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She took graduate level courses on energyefficiency at Stanford University of California at
Berkeley. She became a little bitmore conservative. She likes to be called
doctor. Remember Jill Biden. Youhad to call Joe Biden doctor Jill Biden,
doctor Biden, and the President wouldrefer to her as doctor Biden,
and they stopped that crap, thankyou. PhDs are they're not doctors,

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you know, as my mother wouldsay, They're not a doctor. You're
not even a dentist. Doctor.Dentists aren't even doctors. Doctors are doctors.
That's a real doctor. So shewants to be a doctor, even
though she has a PhD. Shewrites her own speeches. She favors PowerPoint

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presentation. Obaador, on the otherhand, came from poor family. So
it's just a different, different world. And Shinbaum has defended Door across the
board and she says, I'm gonnado the same thing. We'll see,
and by the way, she's gonnawin. We'll see. We'll see if

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she actually does that once she becomespresident. Now, I want to go
in a little different direction while we'rewaiting for it. And this is kind
of a fun story. As youprobably know, AI is now the end
all be all of the world ofcomputing the Internet, and companies are investing

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billions upon billions of dollars into this. I don't know of any major company
that does not have AI, ornot looking at AI, or is not
investing in AI, or is notplanning for AI. Well, one of
the big players, Google, theycame out very very quickly with AI,
and Google now says, you knowwhat, we're gonna stay scale down the

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use of AI generated answers in somesearch results. Why, well, there's
some error there. They rolled itout a bit too quick. For example,
how to make a pizza, andthe program will tell you put glue
on your pizza. That's one ofthe ways of making pizza. I guess
it is. And if you lookat Barack Obama you'll see he actually was

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a Muslim. Didn't know that GoogleAI was that much of a conservative company.
And so what happened, Well,Google started putting AI answers on top
of search results for users in theUS two weeks ago, and then almost
immediately users search engine experts were saying, wait a minute, this is not

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working out so well. Google's headof research, a gal named Liz Reid,
said the company were scaling back someof the AI answers, which it
calls AI overuse overviews, cutting downon using social media posts as source material
for the AI answers. That isthe problem with AI because it uses posts

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and it goes through what people haveposted. And if there's a TikTok challenge.
For example, let's say you haveenough people talking about posting about jumping
off of a moving car at seventymiles per hour, and you ask a
you ask the program, You askGoogle, what is a fun way to

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spend the afternoon searches? Why don'tyou try jumping off a moving vehicle at
seventy miles an hour, and peopleare going, wait a minute, you
know, putting glue on your pizza. That's not going to kill you doing
that TikTok trick will And this isnot new number one, and it is

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more common than you could imagine.This is just the latest example of Google
other companies launching an AI product,doing it quickly, doing it with fanfare,
and then rolling it back. Imean, it just goes too quickly.
The days of Microsoft when Bill Gatesrolled out his program quicker than he
should have, but he got themarket. Those days are gone. AI

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is across the board. There's chat, GPT first one out, Okay,
how many other programs are there outthere? How many other AI applications are
out there? It's going to bein everything, I mean everything. Are
you going to see it in appliances? You're going to see it, well,
certainly in cars. I can't evenimagine where AI is going to be.

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All I know is as I havebeen reading about AI, and the
experts are asked to guess, They'reasked to, you know, prognosticate where
AI is going. The answer iseverywhere everything, Much like what the Internet.

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How the Internet started. And Idid commercials for a guy named Corey
Hang years and years ago. AndCorey South Korean guy, very interesting guy
was a rock singer in Korea.That's what he started. When he come
to America, and he was asuccessful rock guy, wrote songs. And

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he came to the United States andhe was cleaning dishes. He was working
in restaurants, and he decided hewas going to get into computers. So
he took at Pierce College, whichis on the west end of the San
Frano Valley. Here he started takingcomputer classes. Within two weeks, he
realized that he knew more about computersjust by reading than any of the professors

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did. And he started his company, a software company, which when I
started doing commercials for him, Andby the way, he wasn't selling anything.
It was simply branding. He justwanted people to know the name of
his company. That was it.There was no call to action, there

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was no call eight hundred you'll talkto Corey, none of that. And
I asked him, and this guystarted at the very beginning of the Internet.
And I asked Corey, Corey,let me ask you. You're a
visionary, right, You're being givencredit for being early days and understanding where
all this was going. Where doyou think the internet is going? And

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he told me, Bill, notonly do I have no idea, but
I will tell you, in yourwildest imagination, you will not be able
to believe what the Internet is goingto do. There is no way to
describe it. It's like trying todescribe the universe in your wildest imagination.

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Whatever you think, or the numberof stars. Think of a number,
it's a billion times more that.Well, think of that number. It's
a billion times more that more thanthat. And that's exactly what AI is
also about. You're going to seeAI and you're going to see AI in
everything, anything, everything, andit's going to change. It's going to

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change the world. And this iskind of interesting. And now we look
at history. There have been majorincidents in history in man and the history
of mankind. For example, thecontrol of fire was one of them.
Then you had the discovery of thewheel change the world. You had the

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printing press changed the world completely.Then you had other things, but I
don't think as big. Then wehave the Internet changed the world. The
way man discovered fire was able tocontrol fire fifty years later. AI,

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And when people talk about how fastwe're moving as a society, as mankind
and womankind, because you have tosay that too. It's moving at a
speed that's just unbelievable. I lookat kids, little toddler's running around and
they're two years old, one yearold, and here they are born in
twenty twenty four, twenty twenty two, and of course they're going to be

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around in the year twenty one hundred, clearly. And I'm thinking, what
are they going to see eighty yearsfrom now? And now we're back to
what Corey told me thirty something yearsago. In your wildest imagination, you
will not believe what's going to happenin the next eighty years. All right,

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coming back, Donald Trump is scheduledto speak, and I think what
we're gonna do is simply talk aboutwhat happened yesterday up until he actually speaks.
He scheduled at eight o'clock. Buthe does have a habit of running
a little late, doesn't he,So we'll will have him interrupt me.
Damn it. I hate that whenhe starts his press conference, when a

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loudmouth interrupts a loudmouth, yeah,oh yes, yeah, but he I'm
a local, very small player loudmouth. I mean, this is come on,
you know, this is comparing thetypewriter local loudmouth. I like that
local loudmouth. Bill Handle, Yeah, we are coming back. KFI AM

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