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June 10, 2024 27 mins
European Parliament elections: Far right surges but center holds. ‘Do They Have a Case’ with Wayne Resnick.
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You are listening to the Bill HandleShow. And this is KFI AM six
forty Bill Handle here on a Mondaymorning, June tenth, coming up the

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bottom of the hour. Do theyhave a case with Wayne? And some
of the stories Over the weekend,there was this massive attack in Gaza by
the Israelis. Some two hundred andsomething people died and four hundred were wounded,
and it was an attack to rescuehostages, and they did. They

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rescued four hostages the Israelis. Butof course the world is ignoring the hostage
rerecord, the hostage rescue. It'ssimply an unbridled attack again on civilian targets
for no and whatsoever. And bythe way, it's horrific. I mean.
And the question I've always had ishow does Israel get rid of hamas

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even attack hamas if they're in civiliantargets. And the only answer is you
don't. You don't. You justlet Hamas do what it is, because
if they're in the civilian locations,what do you do? It's just both
sides. It's nuts. Okay,Now I want to talk about what happened
at the European Parliament elections. Letme tell you how the EU works.

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Everybody has every country has its ownparliament, right, and those are restricted
to you know those countries. Italyhas its own, England has its own.
Now, there also is the EuropeanUnion, and there are twenty seven
member states who also send delegates tothe European Union, which is effectively a

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country on its own. It's acountry consisting of twenty seven countries, block
of countries, and it has alot of power. It determines, for
example, what the rules are ofinterstate transfer goods and how the goods and
for example, the weight of trucks, and I mean just all of it

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going from country to country because they'reall members of the European Union. It
really is one country if you're amember. For example, my father was
born in Poland, and he wastechnically born in Poland, moved to Ugo
Slavia when he was an infant,and so because he was a Polish citizen,

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I'm going to get my Polish citizenry. Why because I want a European
Union passport, which means when Itravel, I go in. For example,
we go in as Americans within aUS passport. Same thing there,
except you can go to any oneof those twenty seven countries. And at
some point you've heard that, atsome point when I retire, I want

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to spend part of the time inItaly, and I'm not. I don't
want to go in as an American. I want to go in as a
member of the European Union. Andthat's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
The European Union has unbelievable power,and so it has been for the most
part moderate. It's not very leftwing, it's not very right wing.
It is moderate. Well, theworld is turning conservative. It is swinging

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to the right. Even Israel isconsidered insanely conservative. Netan Yahoo. Did
you know Israel when it was foundedin nineteen forty eight, it was a
socialist government, I mean far leftsocialist government. The Labor Party literally controlled
the government. And now it isas conservative as it has ever been.

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And they create parties, I meanthe Licute Party, which is now in
power, became a power party.It was created out of nothing and within
four years, eight years, itbecame a massive party. Can you imagine
doing that in the United States?Starting an independent party and all of a
sudden it becomes a viable party andit wins and it holds the majority in

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Congress. That is how crazy itis, or the way they do business,
unlike the two party system would wehave. Israel has dozens of parties.
The European Union has dozens of parties. And these people who won the
election. Okay, these countries thatwon power the right wing ran. The

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right wing is now far more powerfulthan it ever has been. These politicians
were fringe politicians a few years ago. Much like Donald Trump. He was
a fringe politician the two times thathe ran before. Did anybody take them
seriously? Did anybody take him seriouslywhen he went down that escalator and those

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people were cheering his presidency run?Did you know he hired those people.
I'm not kidding. He hired thosepeople because no one was taking him seriously.
And look where he went from fringeto be the president of the United

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States. Well, in the EuropeanUnion, you have these fringe politician.
For example, in France, Marinele Pinn far far right National National Party.
I mean she's head of it,she has for years. She's been
running as a far right, farright candidate. Was always marginal. Well,

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guess what her party trounced. TheCrown's party trounced him. He's calling
a snap election, which I'll explainhow that when we come back. He's
calling a snap election. I'm talkingabout on the thirtieth of June. It
starts on the thirtieth of June,because he wants to save his ass and

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save his party because it looks likethe far right is going to take control
of France. These marginalized sort ofcrazy politicians who are far right fringe,
Well they're not fringy anymore. Theyare now series with the fringe on top.

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That's if you like musicals. There'sthe analogy. I think that works.
Okay, maybe not. Why fringeon top? Well, because in
the European Union elections, the parliamentaryelections in Europe that have them over the
weekend, the super right wing simplyscored beyond scored to the point where they

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become a huge force. They've gonefrom fringe on top of the surrey to
major political parties. And that isthat just shows you where the world is
going. We've said quite often,you know the United States is going right.
If president former President Trump gets reelected I mean be prepared for it,

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far more right wing than anything heever had did before. And the
same thing is happening in Europe.European Union has twenty seven member states,
all of them sending representatives to theEuropean Union Parliament, which has immense power
in Europe. And so the moderatebase of the European Union it's always it's

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been moderate for it was left wingfor a period of time. Now it's
moderate. And now the extreme righthas won. And where were the most
gains they have won. They justscored. I mean it's still the extreme
rights only well far right parties arewinning about one hundred and fifty out of
the seven hundred and twenty seats.But it makes us harder to pass lauds.

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It gives them much much more influence. So again they've gone from fringe
which no one paid attention to andthey had just a handful of seats to
now one hundred and fifty. Nosmall deal. European Commissioned President Ursula von
der Leyen said that her party stillgoing to win the most seats, is

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still going to be an anchor ofstability, although that's her basically whistling pass
the graveyard she said, the centeris holding it, which is but it's
also true the extremes on the leftand on the right have gained support,
which is why it's even more importantfor us to stay in the middle.
And where did most of these rightwing gains? Where were they? Well,

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the countries that elect the largest numberof seats, because it's all done
on population, France, Italy,Germany and as I said, French President
Macron's party was trounced, which meanshe has called, or what he has
done, dissolved parliament and call fora snap election. Why would he do
that his term doesn't end for twoyears. Well, because he doesn't want

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the right wing to keep on goingand going and getting more power. Right
now, he's banking on at leastthe folks mainstream are saying, wait a
minute, this thing is going toofar right and he wants now to have
that snap election before they gain evenmore power while people are still reeling.

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And let me tell you about parliamentarysystems. The President France has the right
to dissolve, to dissolve parliament andcall for a new election. Parliamentary system,
you can call for new elections inEngland, for example, a vote
of no confidence dissolves the government anda new election is held. In other

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countries, the president does, thePrime minister can call for new elections and
can call for snap elections, whichalso the Prime Minister of England can do.
I mean, it is done.It is not unusual. So here's
what's happening. Because of this stingingrebuke on the majority the moderates that are

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running the European Union. This allis going to shape the political direction of
the EU for the next five years. Because this election, even though it
wasn't in the countries themselves, rememberit's only the European Union, it is
looked at as a de facto election. It shows the far right taking power,

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and that is what's going to happen. Well, has happened in France,
will happen in Italy, will happenin Germany? And why Well,
let's look at the last election intwenty nineteen. Britain leaves the Block in
twenty twenty, leaves the Common Market, if you will, leaves the European

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Bloc financially. Russia invades Ukraine intwenty twenty two. Now you've got all
of these countries basically on a warfooting. The issue about sending money to
Kiev, which these far right partiesdo not want to do. It's like
our far right, we do notwant money to be sent to Kiev.

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It's too much we want to beActually, it's these companies, these countries
that want basically want to just lookout for themselves. They're not interested in
this world coalition. They're not interestedin being part of NATO. It's like
American firsters, you know, wejust have to worry about ourselves. And

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of course there's no argument there,but we have to worry about ourselves and
not worry about what's happening. Andif Putin takes over that part of the
world, it's not our part ofthe world. It doesn't matter. It's
exactly what happened in World War Two, exactly what happened with Austria and Czechoslovakia

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with Hitler and then the invasion ofPoland, world War two starts. And
that is the fear among people thatare on the left, even moderates,
which is going to happen. Notwar is not going to break out.
Maybe it will, Maybe it willhave Rich scared to death that Putin's going
to launch a nuclear attack. Hekeeps on saying no, no, and
then he says, I'm going totake We will use everything if we are

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invaded. We will use all theweapons at our command if we are invaded.
Just to give you an idea,one of the far right candidates far
right parties that did just fine,and this is in Germany, Maximilian kra
who is head of that party,said he did not consider all members of

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the SS to be criminal. They'renot all criminal, and by the way,
maybe there were some that were not. Keep in mind, everybody that
was tried at Nuremberg, the Nurembergtrials and the World Court said we were
just under orders. Here's a factoidfor you. The SS, the killing

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squads, that group of soldiers,and they weren't really soldiers. They didn't
fight. They were there for themost part, they didn't fight. They
were there to be bodyguards for Hitlerand they were there to wipe out European
jewelry, jewry. They were thereas basically the killers of entire groups of

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people, Jews being foremost. Andall of them that were tried saying we
were under orders. You know,there were few of the SS that refused
to be part of that killing spree. They would not be involved in concentration
camps, they would not be involvedin the gas chambers, they would not
be involved in shooting men, womenand children. They refused to follow orders.

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You know how many of them gotnailed. Not one. They were
allowed to not go there, theywere allowed to resign and say, I'm
not going to do that. I'llfight, but I'm not going to do
what they were doing, and notone was punished by the German government.
This I'm following orders as Crappole,as certainly was during World War Two with

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Nazis. So the analogy here,I don't know if there is an analogy
to this, but the far right. Oh, I was talking about Czechoslovakia.
I went off on a tangent.Of course. I was talking about
Czechoslovakia and Austria that were annexed.And now we're frightened. Well, I
will tell you, if Putin winsthis war, he annexes that part of

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Ukraine, it becomes Russia. Itjust becomes straight Russia. The Don Boss
or the Donbas region, which ispart of Ukraine, will become part of
Russia. Crimea was annex It's partof Russia. And that's what we're seeing,
and the far right is going tolet that happen because nobody wants These

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are not internationalists. These are peoplethat are saying the far right saying,
we just have to take care ofour own. It's going to change dramatically.
Man, life is going to changeall over the world. Okay,
it is time for do they havea case with Wayne Resnik and me?
Wayne? Before we start, issomething that I have been saying all morning
long. I want to ask Wayne, and that is to do with former

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President Trump after being convicted, ofcourse, of those thirty four charges felony
charges. He's in front of aprobation officer today. Okay, now here's
the question. He is doing itvirtually. He is in Florida at mar
A Lago, So he is doingit in front of a computer and he
has his attorney with him. Now, is uh is that unusual? Not

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to me? I've seen all theheadlines going on. Oh my goodness,
sorry, that's sorry. One momenteverybody while I relearned how to be on
the radio. Okay, we alldo that. Uh, It's not unusual
to me because in the in theNinth Circuit, which is where I worked,

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which is California and all the otherWestern states many many years ago,
they said, you are not allowedto prevent the attorney from coming to the
pre sentence interview. Okay, allright, you don't have to you don't
have to go, You don't haveto go out of your way to make
it as easy as possible. Butif the attorney is there or wants to
be there, you have to letthem. So, so the attorneys were

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always present at these kinds of interviewsin the Central District of California, doing
it remotely. Also, it mighthave been unusual pre pandemic, but once
the pandemic hit, for people whoare on bond, they're not in the
jail. Actually it's quite common aswell. Okay, so there's nothing unusual

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about this because there's a lot ofunusuality here with former President Trump. You
don't usually see former presidents being triedand being convicted of felonies. Criminal felonies.
You know, that's the only felonythere is, a criminal felony.
Okay, let's go on. Weat least can start the case today.

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Well, we might be only dothis one. So you had you guys
teaching middle school for years and yearsand years is first. Twenty five years
go by uneventfully. He becomes upsetas many of his fellow teachers are with
the trend of students acting out towardsthe teachers more and more, you know,
misbehaving without any consequence, and someof them go to an open school
board meeting and they expressed their concernsabout this trend. Then, almost two

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years later, he's teaching, akid gets up to go to the bathroom
without having asked permission, and thisteacher decides, this is my alamo,
or this is my stand, thisis my masada, and he blocks the
kid from leaving the room, anda ridiculous ten minute back and forth happens

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between the student and the teacher wherehe's physically preventing the student from leaving the
classroom, and eventually the student asksfor permission to go. He's suspended the
teacher for five days without pay,and you know the phrase, are you
really going to make a federal caseout of this? He makes a federal
case out of his five day suspension, saying this is really retaliation for when

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two years ago I showed up ata school board meeting and said I didn't
like the way discipline was being handledand that's First Amendment retal. And so
you guys are in big trouble overthere at the school district, and the
school district says, are you outof your mind? Hmm? Nobody ever
said anything to you about coming tothe meeting. This is two years later.

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There's a very obvious reason that youwere suspended. So this is dumb,
like you really truly cannot connect thesedots. Yeah, I think the
issue is the two years. Asfar as the school boards suspending him,
I think that is legitimate. Stoppinga student from going to the restroom is

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just that that is egregious that youcan't do, and you can't if a
student has to go to the bathroom. Now keep now we're not talking about
a student. I'm assuming that didn'traise his hand three times at every class
and used as an excuse to getout that there is at least evidence that
he had to go to the bathroom, that it was well, or there

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was no evidence that he didn't haveto go, that he would acting out
and it is well. It dependsat this case this point, it really
depends on the makeup of the appealscourt, and that is if it was
a conservative majority two out of threeor three out of three, and in

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terms of Trump appointees, they wouldsay that the teacher could take a baseball
back to the kid and knock hishead off. If it was a liberal
three judge put in by Biden orObama, then they would have to he
would have to apologize to the student, and the school board would have to
give the kid a quarter of amillion dollars. So now I'm saying that

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it was a legitimate suspension for theteacher based on the fact that that is
an appropriate, an appropriate, anappropriate punishment, if you will, And
he comes up with it two yearslater. That's the other thing, you
know. I mean, I thinkthe court's gonna look at and goes,

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come on, two years the schoolwins on this one because he was appropriately
punished for what he did by notallowing the student to go to the restroom.
Yes, and he can show nocausation between showing up at the school
board meeting two yearviously and getting suspendedover the incident with the student. Here's
how badly he loses. This isa federal appeals court decision. It is

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four pages long, three and ahalf pages to explain what happened, and
to lay out what the law isto make a claim of constitutional retaliation,
and about four sentences telling him he'sfull of it and has no case.
Okay, well that's good news.So the court agreed with me, or

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I agreed with the court. Secondcase, All right, let's do this
one. Also, let's not makeit super long. When can you sue
in federal court? We're getting bitby a dog in federal court? Federal
court? Maybe if it happened ina in a federal park or in a

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federal building. The other way thatyou can sue over a dog bite in
federal court is when you are bittenby a police dog and you claim you
shouldn't have been bitten by a policedog and it was excessive force and a
violation of your Fourth Amendment right.So hold on, before we did that,

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how about a male man biting adog? Can you sue the federal
government for that? Ooh ooh,So the plaintiff is a dog, Well,
I know the dog can't be aplaintiff. Well, the owner of
the dog. The owner, theowner of the dog is the plaintiff,
and the defendant is a is aquasi federal employee. A postal carrier.

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Okay, well anyway, that's uh, I just threw that out. Maybe
you could. Yeah, okay,let's go on with are those two abilities
to sue? So all right,so here's what happens. This lady goes
to visit her friends at their houseand the friend is a police officer and

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the friend has, you know,is a canine unit officer and has a
police dog. And the dog isthere and they're visiting and at some point
the dog gets out into the yardand Dutch, by the way, is
the name of the dog. Andso the cop says, Dutch, go

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to your kennel, and Dutch startsto go over to his kennel. But
then as Dutch is going as hewas told to do, go get in
the kennel, somebody laughed at somethingand this disrupted Dutch the dog, and
he charged this woman. And youhave unmuted your mic by you have unmuted

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your no, this is your studiocommunication, Michael. Okay, yes,
all right, So Dutch is doingthe right thing. If lady laughs,
Dutch goes what and charges at herand bites her, and they eventually get
Dutch off the lady and all ofthat so she sues in federal court,
saying, oh, this is aviolation to my Fourth Amendment right because a

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police dog and police dog sicked onme and I didn't do anything, and
that successive force from a police dog. So I want to sue in federal
court. And the cop says,uh, no, this has nothing to
do with police activity. Yes,I'm a cop. Yes it's a police
dog. We're at my house ata social event. This is at best

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a negligence case, and this shouldbe in state court. And the lower
court judge says, yeah, thisreally should go to state court. And
this lady is just like that teacher. She is tenacious man, and she
says no, federal court please,and goes all the way up to the
Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals. Whatdo they say, Oh, they throw

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her out the door because the copwas not acting the the well, the
cop, as in the police dog, which is considered a police officer under
the law, was not acting inthe duties of a police officer. This
was he wasn't told to sicker orsick. How does that work? That

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verb to six sickham sickham sick?This is a really good question. Yeah,
And the point is that if thedog is not acting in its official
capacity as a police dog, youknow, dogs could just be dogs just
because you have police dogs out there. In other words, what she's saying

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basically is every single time that thereis a police dog doing whatever, it's
under the purposes or it's in theguys of its official duty. So I
think she loses completely. Yeah,And you know what's interesting. This case
also four pages long and about threeand a half cases going over the history

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of the case and what is thelaw on a seizure? When are you
seized by the police, and aboutfour or five sentences saying this has nothing
to do with these constitutional questions.It is a negligence case to state court,
it goes all right, uh,there you go two for two today.
Ah, I feel good, Thankyou. An We'll catch you next
Monday, yes sir, all right, So we're done, guys on a

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Monday morning. Back again tomorrow.Amy starts at five am with wake up
call and the rest of it.That means Neil and I start at six
because Cono and come in at midnight, and so it's tomorrow everybody KFI AM
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