June 26, 2024 • 22 mins
The effort to bring back affirmative action in limited form is dead. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about CDC warning a surge in global dengue cases is rasing risk in US, the parasite cleanse, the Zyn shortage, and a new druf offering hope for CPAP free nights.
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You're listening to Bill Handle on demandfrom KFI AM six forty and this is
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle hereand good morning on a Hoday, June
twenty sixth. So much going onSupreme Court. A couple of rulings just
came down. At First Amendment rulingswhether the government has the right to monitor
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control social media companies in terms ofdisinformation. Supreme Court said, yeah,
the FEDS do. I was kindof a surprise. Also, we're waiting
for several other decisions are going tocome down today. Also, tomorrow night
is Debate. You can listen toit right here on KFI starting at six
o'clock. And of course I'll betalking about that on Friday morning. I
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have a chance to digest. Oneof the fun things is listening to it
and then talking about it immediately afterwards. But you know, all you can
do is do the highlights, sothe next day you have a little chance
digesting. Okay, what did hesay? What do they really mean?
This part was stupid? That partwas stupid. Well wait a minute,
that part was stupid too. Buthold on a minute, let's go at
the other side. You're right,that was even more dumb. That's basically
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what the analysis is going to be. I guarantee you. Now, I
want to move over to a constitutionalamendment that's being proposed in California, and
it has to do with affirmative action. Now, affirmative action for the most
part, has really lost its luster. I mean, at one point it
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was everything. I remember law schoolnineteen seventy eight, the Baki decision came
back, came down and Baki wasa guy, a white guy, who
tried to get into the University ofCalifornia Medical School and he was turned down,
said nope, we're not going todo it. And what ended up
happening was, per UC requirements,a black man was put into that spot,
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and the black man did not havethe qualifications, if you were,
the qualifications that the university established interms of grade point average, in terms
of taking the MCAT, in termsof just all the what the boards determined
to get in with the schools determinedto get in so per their rules,
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requirements, regulations. Baki had abetter score, and in those days,
it was the score that put youinto medical school. That was it.
Well, there also was a quotawhere x number percent of minorities x numbers
of blacks, next numbers of Hispanics. Notwithstanding, and what ended up happening
is if a white had more qualificationsthan a minority, that white would be
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precluded because in this case, theAfrican American was put in the place.
He sued. Baki sued, hesaid, this is a CROC. That
was the first reverse discrimination case,and the court backed them up. The
court said, you're right, youcan't have race as the factor. Now,
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how did they get around it,Well, they turned around and said
race can be a factor. Andso of course that was just another that
was just another end round to doexactly what affirmative action did. What the
system was prior to Baki, Imean, the schools still, you know,
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we're doing what they're doing, andnow there's and then the courts came
down very anti affirmative action over theyears, and then the state legislature passed
laws, and then the schools didtheir own regulations internally, their own requirements,
their own policies, and kept onmoving away from quote affirmative action in
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the sense of okay, race canbe a factor. Well, Supreme Court
said no, I can't, racecan be no factor. It's illegal.
You can't use race in any wayto determine whether someone gets in or not.
So how do you do an endaround that. Well, look at
where the student comes from, andyou look at the student's background, and
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you look at things like I wasthe first person in my family go to
college, and or my parents camefrom Mexico. I don't consider the fact
that I'm a Mexicanist extraction and thereforeI'm a minority. Just look at my
parents came from another country and cameto the United States, and that's what
makes me who I am, andit happened to be Mexico. And look
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at my address, and look atwhat my day did for a living.
We're not counting race. We're notlooking at race. We're looking at the
big picture. Well, of coursethat's affirmative action. Of course, I
mean, who are we kiddy?So now, the state in California,
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we passed in what was nineteen ninetysix, it was Prop. Two nine,
which created the country's first man onracial preferences across the board. There
are no racial preferences of any kindin the State of California, including any
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kind of affirmative action, any programof affirmative action in public university admissions.
Okay, now there's something called AssemblyConstitutional Amendment seven which is going to undo
part of that, and they justpull that. The people who put that
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in on the ballot or wanted toin November, have just pulled it.
But wait a second. These areliberal blacks who want in California who wanted
this on there. They wanted toreduce the they wanted to ban the ban.
They wanted to say, wait aminute, we want those bands on
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affirmative action removed. We want togo back to affirmative action. And they
pull that. It's a little bitwonky, but as fascinating as to where
we're going. Are we going backto affirmative action? We are not.
This proposition Assembly Constitutional Amendment seven introducedamong fourteen legislative efforts this year the California
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Legislative Black Caucus, and what Amendmentseven would do was overturned part of Prop.
Two nine, which we voted innineteen ninety six, the first ban
on racial preferences. Before that,there were racial preferences at the university level.
Now it wasn't quota, but itwas racial preferences, which effectively meant
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that minorities had an upper hand andThe argument was the level playing field.
I once to interview Jesse Jackson andwe were talking about pirmative action, and
he said, and I argued,how long you want affirmative action? Why
to level the playing field? Wehave to we as blacks have to have
the same playing field as whites.I go, okay, fair enough.
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How long does that go on?He says forever? Affirmative action goes on
forever. And he said, yeah, basically because we're never really going to
level the playing field. Okay,that's one way to go. So Prop
two nine, which we passed,said, uh uh, no racial preferences,
including affirmative action, straight out affirmativeaction. Okay. Now, ament
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a cons Social Amendment seven would allowstate agencies to send the governor a waiver
requesting to sidestep some of Prop.To nine's restrictions. In other words,
that some forms of affirmative action cancome back if academic research showed that those
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programs affirmative action programs would improve thehealth, economic, or educational outcomes of
specific demographic groups. Now, howhard is it to get academic research that
says affirmative action helps certain groups?African Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans,
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into its. I think we haveintoits in this country. Yeah, in
Alaska Inuits you mean, yeah,no, into it when you have intuition
into it. I think is acompany that deals with software. Yeah whatever.
You know they have a right togo to school too, don't they.
All right, let's move down anyway, Uh, somewhat of a of
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a proposition to undo all of twonine voted down by us in twenty twenty.
We weren't just we weren't going tohave it. We weren't going to
happen. I have it, Soto undo parts of this, which,
by the way, undoes all ofit, if quote. Academic research showed
that those programs, pirmative action programprograms would improve the health, economic,
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or educational outcomes of specific demographic groups, which anybody can argue and you can
come up with a science for that. In two seconds, they pulled it.
The California Legislative Black Caucus pulled it. They said, nah, they're
gonna put it on the ballot,and then they said, nah, we're
not going to. Why do youthink they pulled it because they were going
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to lose big time because we donot like affirmative action, we really don't.
And the argument is that, Well, let me give you an example,
okay, of affirmative action. I'ma Kaiser member, and I remember
once going to a specialist. Ihad some back issues my entire life.
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So I went into a neurosurgeon becauseof my spine issues. And he was
African American and we were just talking, and so I said to him we
started talking politics. I said,hey, you know, and about Kaiser
and everything else. I said,it's kind of hard to get a Kaiser.
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And he said, here's the problemwith being a doctor with this kind
of specialty, with primarily white doctors. People think I got here because I'm
black, that I got into medschool because of an affirm affirmative action.
And then he pointed to the wallHopkins Harvard and he said, top of
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my class. And if you thinkI'm here because of affirmative action, you're
crazy. I mean, he wasincensed. And he said, that's the
problem with affirmative action, because peoplelike me are questioned as to my credentials.
You don't question white guy. AndI said, yeah, you know,
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you're absolutely right. So affirmative actiondoes it help people? Sure it
does? Is it unfair? Yeah, as the quota system is as historically
it has been, where you hadblacks, where you had people Hispanics who
were discriminated against. You think that'stoday. Do you really believe that someone
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who is African American is discriminated againstgoing into university? I can't imagine it.
And yet here you had the CaliforniaLegislative Black Caucus wanted to introduce the
band to undo the ban on affirmativeaction, saying, we want to go
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back to affirmative action. Okay,well it's not happening. They pulled it.
It's gonna lose, even to thepoint where the author came in and
said, Okay, we're gonna putit now, but we're going to bring
it back at some other time.We haven't lost the war, yes you
have. All right, it istime for our medical news doctor Jim Keeney,
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which we do on Wednesday. Thatwasn't even me. That was kind
of clever from Neil's side. Wasn'ta Jim? What's that? Oh?
Never mind? I thought you werechuckling, but you clearly weren't. Okay,
now you are all right? Fairenough. A couple of things I
want to talk about. The CDCis warning about a surge in global dengay
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cases. Now, dengay is oneof those diseases you think of third world
stuff. I mean, you know, we just don't have dengay. But
it's a problem, isn't it.Yeah, it's a worldwide problem. And
as mosquito's spread of the disease,we're getting more and more. You know.
Of course they're attributing global warming tothe increase in mosquito population, and
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so we're seeing it even in theUnited States. There's cases in Florida,
Texas, Hawaii, Arizona. Sowe get it in the United States.
You don't have to travel overseas toget it. Puerto Rico has had major
outbreaks, and it's just something tobe aware of. There's really there's not
really an available vaccine. There isa vaccine, but it's not available,
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and it's transmitted by mosquitos. Really, the goal is to try and avoid
mosquito bites, meaning you wear eitheryou know, long, long clothes during
times when you might be exposed tomosquitos, or you use bugspray. Huh.
Now, when you said there isa vaccine but it's not available,
what good is a vaccine that isnot available. I'd like to know that
one. Yeah, so it's notreally useful. I mean, I can't
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say there's no vaccine because Sono Ifideveloped a vaccine for it, but they
stopped making it because nobody wanted touse it. There was no demand,
so they just stopped. Okay,yeah, that mosquito stuff. And it's
when we're looking at it, andit just occurred to me as you were
saying that that we're going to seea lot more mosquito born symptoms illnesses.
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It's crazy, it really is here, I'm thinking. And you go on
this, you go on a vacation, right, and what you want to
do is hang out at the beach, you know, at sunset, which
is really the most active time formosquitos, and that's when you're just going
to get school armed and get bittenby mosquitos. So you either have to
avoid the best part of the dayor you have to make sure you protect
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yourself. Now, I've been atplaces where I've been bitten by mosquitos like
crazy. I don't know who doesn'tget mosquito bites at some point. What
are the chances of getting some kindof a mosquito born illness in terms of
going out and just getting bitten theway we all do. I mean,
it's got to be extremely low,right, because I don't know anyone who
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hasn't been by a mosquito. Soprobably nearly one hundred percent of the population
has been bit by a mosquito.And this is a very you know,
seven hundred cases is a very smaall number in comparison. But the disease
is so serious. It's just oneof those things. They call it bone
crushing pain. That's one of theidentifying features. When people come in.
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They will literally tell you that theyfeel like their bones are in a vice
and being crushed. That's how painfulit is. So you know, watching
people suffer from this is brutal,and they have it so much pain,
they don't eat, they don't drink. That's why we have to support them
with fluids. Sometimes they start vomitingdiarrhea. It gets really bad. And
so I've seen people with this disease. You don't want it. Did you
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recognize the as dingay almost immediately?Yeah, because the person literally said bone
crushing pain. And you know,I was in an area with a lot
of danky fever, and so youknow, that's one of the first things
that pops to mind when you seesomebody with a flu like illness. All
right, I asked you about Zennor z y N and I've never heard
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of this, and there's a shortageand what is going on with this?
Yeah, lot around this topic,so zin z y N, it's a
These are little pouches of nicotine,no tobacco, nicotine and flavoring and so
uh, you know, they're beingpromoted as a healthier alternative for nicotine,
and that's what the younger population isbuying in on and starting to use these.
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They're all flavored. And we knowalready the tobacco products. When you
look at look at tobacco use forkids, you know, ninety percent of
them when they use vapes are usingflavors. Where you look at adults and
you know only about ten twenty percentof adults are using flavors. So clearly
the flavors are geared towards kids andand they're you know, so there's there's
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regulation around flavored tobacco products. Now, so Zen got a little trouble in
DC because they have a rule thereabout flavored having flavored tobacco products. So
then they say they're not a tobaccoproduct or nicotine product, but they're they
halted online sales. They also havea shortage, so people are freaking out
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they can't get the labors they want. This is how addicted they are.
And to give you an idea whata big industry this is. The FDA
received twenty seven million applications for tobaccoproducts so far, so I mean it's
growing unbelievably. It's a fifteen hundredpercent increase in tobacco products coming to market.
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Okay, So when you talk aboutnicotine addiction, what are the health
risks of pure nicotine, not anythingelse, not the smoke or the tobacco
leaves or anything else. We're justlooking at nicotine per se. Right,
So number one is addictive. It'sa psychoactive substance. So it effects especially
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younger kids. It's going to affecttheir brain, their development. But nicotine
itself has effects on cardiovascular system.Their studies that show that just nicotine alone
has those negative effects on the cardiovascularsystem, increasing your risk for heart attack
and stroke. So these products werepushed forward as a way to get people
off tobacco, right they were supposedto be, and that's how vapes were
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pushed through is that. Look,we can show harm reduction when people use
vaping or you know, non combustibletobacco products compared to using cigarettes, and
it's true. So that is ait's an improvement when you go from cigarettes
to either vaping or Zen's or anyof those things, you've improved. It's
just like nicorette gum or something likethat, where you're chewing the gum and
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getting nicotine. And I've talked tokids and they say, oh, no,
we don't like the gum. Ithits too hard. You just are
overwhelmed with nicotine, where the zenhas this perfect release. They love,
you know. So that's why thesethings are developed. And it seems like
talking to kids about this that theyseem to have kids in mind. There
almost are their marketing focus group,because they're really made exactly for what they're
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looking for. Now. Is therea high I've never smoked? So I
wrote, Well, I've smoked acouple of joint once in a while,
but I have never smoked. Isthere a high that comes from nicotine?
Pure nicotine? Yeah? Yeah,there's a kind of a high. You
know, there's a you get thissense that you're on something and you feel
good. Huh, isn't that whyGod invented MDMA. Well, talk about
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harm reduction. That's going the wrongdirection. Okay, if you want to
have if you want to be toothless, then have pock marks all through your
face. Oh that's math, right. Well, you know they're very closely
related. A lot of people liketo parse those two out like ones different
than the other. They are differentand chemically, but they're they're very closely
related. Oh I didn't know that. I had no idea. Okay,
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last one, and that is aparasite cleanse. I love the whole concept
of cleansing because I find people thatdo that very weird. You know,
my private parts tend to be myprivate parts. So let's talk about parasite
cleansing for a moment. What isthat, Well, it's really just the
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general public's, you know, obsessionwith their own stool. Right, So
people seem to some people, somepeople don't even I can tell you.
I've asked, have you seen bloodin your stool? And people say,
I don't know, I don't look. So there's people that literally won't even
look down. And then there's otherpeople who are obsessed with every little fleck
that's in there as if it's supposedto be this perfect, you know,
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clay like no imperfections as it comesout, and they see little things in
there and I get the weirdest picturesin my text messages, I can tell
you. And so people see thosethings and they actually believe that they must
be parasites, and then they starttreating them. And parasite symptoms when you
look them up online kind of overlapwith just being a human. Right.
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You get bloated, sometimes, youfeel full, you get gassy, things
like that, and so people areattempting to treat that, and they're using
herbal products that there are some earproducts that probably have some anti parasitic effect
a little bit. But when youreally have a parasite infection, we just
give you a single pill that wipesit out. There's some that create have
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eggs and so then you have to, you know, give the treatment a
week or two later and do onemore treatment with one pill. It's pretty
easy. Almost no side actually noside effects. The pill is not absorbed
into your system. It goes throughyour intestines. So there's an actual treatment
when you do have parasite. Justa quick announcement before we break out of
here. For those people that arelistening, if you ever have a chance
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to have lunch with Jim, justbefore you eat, make sure you have
him whip out his phone and showyou some of the best pictures you've ever
seen in your life. That's true, It's so true. All right,
Jim, we'll catch you next week, all right, take care, all
right, Jim Kinney. And sowe're back again tomorrow. Boy do we
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do this all over again? Andso Amy five o'clock in the morning with
a wake up call. And thenNeil and I come aboard from six to
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KFI AM six forty Bill Handle hereand good morning on a Hoday, June
twenty sixth. So much going onSupreme Court. A couple of rulings just
came down. At First Amendment rulingswhether the government has the right to monitor
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control social media companies in terms ofdisinformation. Supreme Court said, yeah,
the FEDS do. I was kindof a surprise. Also, we're waiting
for several other decisions are going tocome down today. Also, tomorrow night
is Debate. You can listen toit right here on KFI starting at six
o'clock. And of course I'll betalking about that on Friday morning. I
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have a chance to digest. Oneof the fun things is listening to it
and then talking about it immediately afterwards. But you know, all you can
do is do the highlights, sothe next day you have a little chance
digesting. Okay, what did hesay? What do they really mean?
This part was stupid? That partwas stupid. Well wait a minute,
that part was stupid too. Buthold on a minute, let's go at
the other side. You're right,that was even more dumb. That's basically
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what the analysis is going to be. I guarantee you. Now, I
want to move over to a constitutionalamendment that's being proposed in California, and
it has to do with affirmative action. Now, affirmative action for the most
part, has really lost its luster. I mean, at one point it
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was everything. I remember law schoolnineteen seventy eight, the Baki decision came
back, came down and Baki wasa guy, a white guy, who
tried to get into the University ofCalifornia Medical School and he was turned down,
said nope, we're not going todo it. And what ended up
happening was, per UC requirements,a black man was put into that spot,
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and the black man did not havethe qualifications, if you were,
the qualifications that the university established interms of grade point average, in terms
of taking the MCAT, in termsof just all the what the boards determined
to get in with the schools determinedto get in so per their rules,
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requirements, regulations. Baki had abetter score, and in those days,
it was the score that put youinto medical school. That was it.
Well, there also was a quotawhere x number percent of minorities x numbers
of blacks, next numbers of Hispanics. Notwithstanding, and what ended up happening
is if a white had more qualificationsthan a minority, that white would be
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precluded because in this case, theAfrican American was put in the place.
He sued. Baki sued, hesaid, this is a CROC. That
was the first reverse discrimination case,and the court backed them up. The
court said, you're right, youcan't have race as the factor. Now,
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how did they get around it,Well, they turned around and said
race can be a factor. Andso of course that was just another that
was just another end round to doexactly what affirmative action did. What the
system was prior to Baki, Imean, the schools still, you know,
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we're doing what they're doing, andnow there's and then the courts came
down very anti affirmative action over theyears, and then the state legislature passed
laws, and then the schools didtheir own regulations internally, their own requirements,
their own policies, and kept onmoving away from quote affirmative action in
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the sense of okay, race canbe a factor. Well, Supreme Court
said no, I can't, racecan be no factor. It's illegal.
You can't use race in any wayto determine whether someone gets in or not.
So how do you do an endaround that. Well, look at
where the student comes from, andyou look at the student's background, and
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you look at things like I wasthe first person in my family go to
college, and or my parents camefrom Mexico. I don't consider the fact
that I'm a Mexicanist extraction and thereforeI'm a minority. Just look at my
parents came from another country and cameto the United States, and that's what
makes me who I am, andit happened to be Mexico. And look
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at my address, and look atwhat my day did for a living.
We're not counting race. We're notlooking at race. We're looking at the
big picture. Well, of coursethat's affirmative action. Of course, I
mean, who are we kiddy?So now, the state in California,
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we passed in what was nineteen ninetysix, it was Prop. Two nine,
which created the country's first man onracial preferences across the board. There
are no racial preferences of any kindin the State of California, including any
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kind of affirmative action, any programof affirmative action in public university admissions.
Okay, now there's something called AssemblyConstitutional Amendment seven which is going to undo
part of that, and they justpull that. The people who put that
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in on the ballot or wanted toin November, have just pulled it.
But wait a second. These areliberal blacks who want in California who wanted
this on there. They wanted toreduce the they wanted to ban the ban.
They wanted to say, wait aminute, we want those bands on
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affirmative action removed. We want togo back to affirmative action. And they
pull that. It's a little bitwonky, but as fascinating as to where
we're going. Are we going backto affirmative action? We are not.
This proposition Assembly Constitutional Amendment seven introducedamong fourteen legislative efforts this year the California
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Legislative Black Caucus, and what Amendmentseven would do was overturned part of Prop.
Two nine, which we voted innineteen ninety six, the first ban
on racial preferences. Before that,there were racial preferences at the university level.
Now it wasn't quota, but itwas racial preferences, which effectively meant
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that minorities had an upper hand andThe argument was the level playing field.
I once to interview Jesse Jackson andwe were talking about pirmative action, and
he said, and I argued,how long you want affirmative action? Why
to level the playing field? Wehave to we as blacks have to have
the same playing field as whites.I go, okay, fair enough.
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How long does that go on?He says forever? Affirmative action goes on
forever. And he said, yeah, basically because we're never really going to
level the playing field. Okay,that's one way to go. So Prop
two nine, which we passed,said, uh uh, no racial preferences,
including affirmative action, straight out affirmativeaction. Okay. Now, ament
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a cons Social Amendment seven would allowstate agencies to send the governor a waiver
requesting to sidestep some of Prop.To nine's restrictions. In other words,
that some forms of affirmative action cancome back if academic research showed that those
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programs affirmative action programs would improve thehealth, economic, or educational outcomes of
specific demographic groups. Now, howhard is it to get academic research that
says affirmative action helps certain groups?African Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans,
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into its. I think we haveintoits in this country. Yeah, in
Alaska Inuits you mean, yeah,no, into it when you have intuition
into it. I think is acompany that deals with software. Yeah whatever.
You know they have a right togo to school too, don't they.
All right, let's move down anyway, Uh, somewhat of a of
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a proposition to undo all of twonine voted down by us in twenty twenty.
We weren't just we weren't going tohave it. We weren't going to
happen. I have it, Soto undo parts of this, which,
by the way, undoes all ofit, if quote. Academic research showed
that those programs, pirmative action programprograms would improve the health, economic,
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or educational outcomes of specific demographic groups, which anybody can argue and you can
come up with a science for that. In two seconds, they pulled it.
The California Legislative Black Caucus pulled it. They said, nah, they're
gonna put it on the ballot,and then they said, nah, we're
not going to. Why do youthink they pulled it because they were going
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to lose big time because we donot like affirmative action, we really don't.
And the argument is that, Well, let me give you an example,
okay, of affirmative action. I'ma Kaiser member, and I remember
once going to a specialist. Ihad some back issues my entire life.
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So I went into a neurosurgeon becauseof my spine issues. And he was
African American and we were just talking, and so I said to him we
started talking politics. I said,hey, you know, and about Kaiser
and everything else. I said,it's kind of hard to get a Kaiser.
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And he said, here's the problemwith being a doctor with this kind
of specialty, with primarily white doctors. People think I got here because I'm
black, that I got into medschool because of an affirm affirmative action.
And then he pointed to the wallHopkins Harvard and he said, top of
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my class. And if you thinkI'm here because of affirmative action, you're
crazy. I mean, he wasincensed. And he said, that's the
problem with affirmative action, because peoplelike me are questioned as to my credentials.
You don't question white guy. AndI said, yeah, you know,
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you're absolutely right. So affirmative actiondoes it help people? Sure it
does? Is it unfair? Yeah, as the quota system is as historically
it has been, where you hadblacks, where you had people Hispanics who
were discriminated against. You think that'stoday. Do you really believe that someone
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who is African American is discriminated againstgoing into university? I can't imagine it.
And yet here you had the CaliforniaLegislative Black Caucus wanted to introduce the
band to undo the ban on affirmativeaction, saying, we want to go
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back to affirmative action. Okay,well it's not happening. They pulled it.
It's gonna lose, even to thepoint where the author came in and
said, Okay, we're gonna putit now, but we're going to bring
it back at some other time.We haven't lost the war, yes you
have. All right, it istime for our medical news doctor Jim Keeney,
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which we do on Wednesday. Thatwasn't even me. That was kind
of clever from Neil's side. Wasn'ta Jim? What's that? Oh?
Never mind? I thought you werechuckling, but you clearly weren't. Okay,
now you are all right? Fairenough. A couple of things I
want to talk about. The CDCis warning about a surge in global dengay
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cases. Now, dengay is oneof those diseases you think of third world
stuff. I mean, you know, we just don't have dengay. But
it's a problem, isn't it.Yeah, it's a worldwide problem. And
as mosquito's spread of the disease,we're getting more and more. You know.
Of course they're attributing global warming tothe increase in mosquito population, and
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so we're seeing it even in theUnited States. There's cases in Florida,
Texas, Hawaii, Arizona. Sowe get it in the United States.
You don't have to travel overseas toget it. Puerto Rico has had major
outbreaks, and it's just something tobe aware of. There's really there's not
really an available vaccine. There isa vaccine, but it's not available,
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and it's transmitted by mosquitos. Really, the goal is to try and avoid
mosquito bites, meaning you wear eitheryou know, long, long clothes during
times when you might be exposed tomosquitos, or you use bugspray. Huh.
Now, when you said there isa vaccine but it's not available,
what good is a vaccine that isnot available. I'd like to know that
one. Yeah, so it's notreally useful. I mean, I can't
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say there's no vaccine because Sono Ifideveloped a vaccine for it, but they
stopped making it because nobody wanted touse it. There was no demand,
so they just stopped. Okay,yeah, that mosquito stuff. And it's
when we're looking at it, andit just occurred to me as you were
saying that that we're going to seea lot more mosquito born symptoms illnesses.
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It's crazy, it really is here, I'm thinking. And you go on
this, you go on a vacation, right, and what you want to
do is hang out at the beach, you know, at sunset, which
is really the most active time formosquitos, and that's when you're just going
to get school armed and get bittenby mosquitos. So you either have to
avoid the best part of the dayor you have to make sure you protect
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yourself. Now, I've been atplaces where I've been bitten by mosquitos like
crazy. I don't know who doesn'tget mosquito bites at some point. What
are the chances of getting some kindof a mosquito born illness in terms of
going out and just getting bitten theway we all do. I mean,
it's got to be extremely low,right, because I don't know anyone who
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hasn't been by a mosquito. Soprobably nearly one hundred percent of the population
has been bit by a mosquito.And this is a very you know,
seven hundred cases is a very smaall number in comparison. But the disease
is so serious. It's just oneof those things. They call it bone
crushing pain. That's one of theidentifying features. When people come in.
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They will literally tell you that theyfeel like their bones are in a vice
and being crushed. That's how painfulit is. So you know, watching
people suffer from this is brutal,and they have it so much pain,
they don't eat, they don't drink. That's why we have to support them
with fluids. Sometimes they start vomitingdiarrhea. It gets really bad. And
so I've seen people with this disease. You don't want it. Did you
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recognize the as dingay almost immediately?Yeah, because the person literally said bone
crushing pain. And you know,I was in an area with a lot
of danky fever, and so youknow, that's one of the first things
that pops to mind when you seesomebody with a flu like illness. All
right, I asked you about Zennor z y N and I've never heard
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of this, and there's a shortageand what is going on with this?
Yeah, lot around this topic,so zin z y N, it's a
These are little pouches of nicotine,no tobacco, nicotine and flavoring and so
uh, you know, they're beingpromoted as a healthier alternative for nicotine,
and that's what the younger population isbuying in on and starting to use these.
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They're all flavored. And we knowalready the tobacco products. When you
look at look at tobacco use forkids, you know, ninety percent of
them when they use vapes are usingflavors. Where you look at adults and
you know only about ten twenty percentof adults are using flavors. So clearly
the flavors are geared towards kids andand they're you know, so there's there's
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regulation around flavored tobacco products. Now, so Zen got a little trouble in
DC because they have a rule thereabout flavored having flavored tobacco products. So
then they say they're not a tobaccoproduct or nicotine product, but they're they
halted online sales. They also havea shortage, so people are freaking out
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they can't get the labors they want. This is how addicted they are.
And to give you an idea whata big industry this is. The FDA
received twenty seven million applications for tobaccoproducts so far, so I mean it's
growing unbelievably. It's a fifteen hundredpercent increase in tobacco products coming to market.
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Okay, So when you talk aboutnicotine addiction, what are the health
risks of pure nicotine, not anythingelse, not the smoke or the tobacco
leaves or anything else. We're justlooking at nicotine per se. Right,
So number one is addictive. It'sa psychoactive substance. So it effects especially
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younger kids. It's going to affecttheir brain, their development. But nicotine
itself has effects on cardiovascular system.Their studies that show that just nicotine alone
has those negative effects on the cardiovascularsystem, increasing your risk for heart attack
and stroke. So these products werepushed forward as a way to get people
off tobacco, right they were supposedto be, and that's how vapes were
(18:08):
pushed through is that. Look,we can show harm reduction when people use
vaping or you know, non combustibletobacco products compared to using cigarettes, and
it's true. So that is ait's an improvement when you go from cigarettes
to either vaping or Zen's or anyof those things, you've improved. It's
just like nicorette gum or something likethat, where you're chewing the gum and
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getting nicotine. And I've talked tokids and they say, oh, no,
we don't like the gum. Ithits too hard. You just are
overwhelmed with nicotine, where the zenhas this perfect release. They love,
you know. So that's why thesethings are developed. And it seems like
talking to kids about this that theyseem to have kids in mind. There
almost are their marketing focus group,because they're really made exactly for what they're
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looking for. Now. Is therea high I've never smoked? So I
wrote, Well, I've smoked acouple of joint once in a while,
but I have never smoked. Isthere a high that comes from nicotine?
Pure nicotine? Yeah? Yeah,there's a kind of a high. You
know, there's a you get thissense that you're on something and you feel
good. Huh, isn't that whyGod invented MDMA. Well, talk about
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harm reduction. That's going the wrongdirection. Okay, if you want to
have if you want to be toothless, then have pock marks all through your
face. Oh that's math, right. Well, you know they're very closely
related. A lot of people liketo parse those two out like ones different
than the other. They are differentand chemically, but they're they're very closely
related. Oh I didn't know that. I had no idea. Okay,
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last one, and that is aparasite cleanse. I love the whole concept
of cleansing because I find people thatdo that very weird. You know,
my private parts tend to be myprivate parts. So let's talk about parasite
cleansing for a moment. What isthat, Well, it's really just the
(20:06):
general public's, you know, obsessionwith their own stool. Right, So
people seem to some people, somepeople don't even I can tell you.
I've asked, have you seen bloodin your stool? And people say,
I don't know, I don't look. So there's people that literally won't even
look down. And then there's otherpeople who are obsessed with every little fleck
that's in there as if it's supposedto be this perfect, you know,
(20:30):
clay like no imperfections as it comesout, and they see little things in
there and I get the weirdest picturesin my text messages, I can tell
you. And so people see thosethings and they actually believe that they must
be parasites, and then they starttreating them. And parasite symptoms when you
look them up online kind of overlapwith just being a human. Right.
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You get bloated, sometimes, youfeel full, you get gassy, things
like that, and so people areattempting to treat that, and they're using
herbal products that there are some earproducts that probably have some anti parasitic effect
a little bit. But when youreally have a parasite infection, we just
give you a single pill that wipesit out. There's some that create have
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eggs and so then you have to, you know, give the treatment a
week or two later and do onemore treatment with one pill. It's pretty
easy. Almost no side actually noside effects. The pill is not absorbed
into your system. It goes throughyour intestines. So there's an actual treatment
when you do have parasite. Justa quick announcement before we break out of
here. For those people that arelistening, if you ever have a chance
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to have lunch with Jim, justbefore you eat, make sure you have
him whip out his phone and showyou some of the best pictures you've ever
seen in your life. That's true, It's so true. All right,
Jim, we'll catch you next week, all right, take care, all
right, Jim Kinney. And sowe're back again tomorrow. Boy do we
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do this all over again? Andso Amy five o'clock in the morning with
a wake up call. And thenNeil and I come aboard from six to
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