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You're List Saints KFI AM six forty. The bill handles show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. The Firearms PolicyCoalition, in conjunction with the National Rifle
Association, the California Rifle and PistolAssociation, and the Second Amendment Foundation have
filed a lawsuit against this new excisetax on guns, gun parts, and

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ammunition. This took effect on Monday. This was Assembly Bill twenty eight.
The proponents of it said it wouldgenerate almost one hundred and sixty million dollars
in its first year, and thatmoney can go to fund programs for gun
violence prevention, for gang intervention,and who knows what else. So the

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lawsuit wants to block the new law, says it's a violation of the Second
Amendment because it is a special taxon gun owners, which it is for
sure a special tax on gun owners. We have similar taxes in this society.
Alcohol has a special tax, tobaccohas a special tax. And what

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alcohol and tobacco and guns have incommon, and I don't think anybody's gonna
want to argue with me about this, is that they are legal. These
are all legal things. In thehands of the wrong person or misused can
cause big problems for individual people orfor society as a whole. So in

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that sense, guns are just likealcohol and tobacco. We don't want to
completely make them illegal. Well nowwe can't even if you wanted to,
but there's some level of responsible ownershipand use of these products. Here's where
they're different, though, and that'swhat's behind this lawsuit. Only guns are

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connected to a constitutional right. There'sno constitutional right to have alcohol or tobacco.
There is a constitutional right to havea gun, with of course the
exceptions that exist and so forth,and regulations and requirements. But the core
bottom line is the Second Amendment isimplicated. Just like, say, if

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you wanted to put a special taxon printing presses. I know, I
know what you're saying. Oh mygod, it's twenty twenty four. Nobody's
using printing presses anymore. Yes,I'm just trying to make the point.
A special tax on printing presses wouldbe different than a special tax on booze
or tobacco because a printing press isto print material, which is a form

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of communication, which has First Amendmentprotection. So it's the same idea.
So in any event, here comesthis lawsuit. Now we talk about this
with Bill on do they have acase all the time, this issue of
standing and you know, do youhave the right to file a lawsuit?
And you can't file a lawsuit unlessyou've been hurt by this law. So
they had to find somebody who's beenhurt by this new tax, and they

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say that they have and her nameis Danielle James. And the way that
she has been hurt by this taxon guns, according to the lawsuit,
is she was gonna buy a gun, specifically a six hour P three sixty
five ex Macro I guess, alittle semi automatic pistol. She was going

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to purchase this gun, as isher Second Amendment right, and she put
it off because this tax increased whatit would cost to buy the gun.
So now she has to save upthe money to get the gun. And
she says, I would buy thisgun now, but because it's gonna cost

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me eleven percent more, I'm notgoing to. Therefore, this tax has
infringed on my exercise of a SecondAmendment right. Then there's a guy that
they found, Josh Gerkin, whois from Orange County who sometimes is a
firearms instructor at the local gun rangesand he purchases, you know, quite

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a bit of ammunition, and hesays, I'm gonna have to buy less
ammunition because it costs eleven percent more. So that's the basis. Now,
listen, I you know, Idon't know how compelling these two examples are.

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I'm not gonna lie to you.I can't believe that you have the
money for this gun. But ifit's eleven percent more, not only do
you not have the money for thegun, but you're not gonna have the
extra eleven percent for all long time. And the other guy, I guess
observation there is he's saying, well, I might cut back. Okay,

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have you cut back? Have you, for example, been unable to teach
a class because you could not affordthe ammunition? I'm not sure here,
but I get the idea. Iget the core idea behind the lawsuit,
which is there's a Second Amendment rightin play, and if the government puts
a special tax on a constitutionally protectedright, that's illegal. And that's the

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theory. And I'm not saying they'reright, and I'm not saying they're wrong.
I'm saying that's what's happening. AndBy the way, anyone who's surprised
by this lawsuit is kind of adullard because you could have seen this coming
miles and miles away. And thenI want to leave you with this because
listen, one thing I really believeeverybody can agree on is that you should

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be at least minimally responsible with yourfirearm. You know, if you have
kids in the house, you gotto keep that firearm locked up. A
guy in Pennsylvania now has been arrestedand charged because a three year old child

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in the house accidentally shot a ladyin the back and there were apparently other
young children in proximity to this gun. Now where was this gun, because
sometimes you hear about a kid findsthe gun in its hiding place or something
like that, where there's been someeffort to hide the gun and it failed.

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Well, apparently this gun was sittingon a table, already locked and
cocked and loaded. He was thedude, this guy, Brian Zigfree,
who's forty one. He was like, you know, handling the gun,
puts it down right there on thetable with all these kids around. So

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all the three year old had todo was pick it up and by happenstance,
point it in the wrong direction,and get the trigger pulls. So
I guess I just want to leave, like on a note of solidarity with
everybody, which is everybody agrees thisguy is a total jerk and should be
criminally punished for that. Right,don't disappoint me with angry tweets or whatever

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you're gonna do. All right,we'll get some news from Heather Brooker in
the KFI newsroom and then some roomroom news. GM paying millions and millions
of dollars because of something going onwith their cars, and it's not the
first time. Apparently you're listening toBill Handle on demand from KFI Am six
forty. We got some information inif you feel like the rent is it's

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too damn high here in southern California, well here's some stats to prove it.
Although you might be surprised. Yes, California has some of the highest
per square foot rental costs in thecountry. But we're not number one or
number two, three, or four. We're number five average of two dollars

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and ninety six cents per square foot. If you want to pay more on
average, you can go to Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York or Washington DC.
If you want to pay as littleas possible, you can go to
North Dakota, where the average rentalis only a dollar eight cents per square

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foot. Also, we have theeleventh smallest average apartment size in the country.
The average California apartment is eight hundredand fifty one square feet, five
percent below the national average. Ifyou want the tiniest average apartment possible,
get on up to Alaska. Andif you want the biggest, you got

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to go to Georgia. Apparently theaverage apartment size in Georgia is over one
thousand square feet. Now let's talkabout some car news. GM will pay
a little bit over one hundred andforty five million dollars in penalties because a
federal investigation found that about six millionof their cars were spitting out more emissions

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than they were saying. Not onlydo they have to pay the money as
a penalty, they have to giveup about fifty million metric tons in carbon
allowances. These are their cars fromthe twenty twelve to twenty eighteen model years,
and they were spitting out about tenpercent more carbon dioxide than the initial
compliance reports said. Now, thisis not like the Volkswagen thing. You

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may remember the Volkswagen thing in twentywhatever it was fifty teen sixteen, where
Volkswagen was found to on purpose witha special device, cheat in the testing
of their emissions. They would putthis thing on the car and then test
it and then go, oh,these are our emissions, ha ha.

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So they got in big trouble.Now, GM is not accused of doing
anything like that. I don't believethat they did anything like that, but
they did. They screwed up andunderstated the amount of emissions. So they're
going to have to pay that money. The EPA is not making them recall
any of these cars that are spittingout a little more emissions than they're supposed
to. It's not the first timethat GM has paid money for fuel and

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emission related problems. Last year apparentlythey paid one hundred and twenty eight million
for fuel economy penalties because they didn'tmeet the requirements. Now, before that,
guess what, That fuel economy programhas been in place for like forty
years, and before last year theyhad not paid any kind of fine for

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forty years. So it's not likethey're a nair Dwell company. But uh
yeah, I've been caught with afew problems. Now, oh man,
okay, street racing. We knowstreet racing is a problem. We know
that law enforcement tries to do somethingabout it, but it's almost impossible.
I think Bill even talked about thison the show very recently about the laws

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that they passed just don't work.So there's another solution that somebody is trying.
And the idea is, well,what if you could give the experience
of street racing, but not onthe streets. And that is what Leadfoot
City hopes to provide. It's thefirst ever automotive sports theme park. They'll

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be a restaurant, they'll be abar, there'll be an event space,
they'll have an amphitheater. I'm surethat they'll have concerts. They'll have a
burnout pit and and a mile longdrag strip. And the way that they're
gonna do this is they want itto feel like not that you're on a
dragstrip at a racetrack. That's notwhat they want you to feel like.

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They want you to feel like you'rein the city, like you're on Sepulvida
and now you can go And theysaid this is designed for racing hobbyists or
those looking to put the hammer downon their personal vehicles and feel the adrenaline
rush. And the guy behind it, the creator of this attraction, whose

(12:39):
name is Achilles Thomas. I hopehe's not a heel. I'm sorry,
I shouldn't have he said. Hey, even mom can come in her minivan
as long as the car is safe, meets our minimum safety criteria. She
can get on this dragstrip. Shecan send the kids over to the game
section at this park. She canget on the drag strip and put the
pedal to the metal. I knowpeople will go and do it. I

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don't think the people who are causingthe problem with the street racing are gonna
do it because they're not gonna seeit as an acceptable alternative. Because part
of the thrill for the street racingnear Doells is that you're not supposed to
be doing it. So the secondyou say, well, you can do
the same thing. You can goreally fast and race your buddy, but
it's allowed, they're like, no, thanks. The adrenaline rush comes because

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it's forbidden. All right. Now, we're gonna get news from Heather Brooker,
and then for the next part ofthe show, we're gonna talk about
food. Yes, we're gonna doFoody Friday. Neil is off today,
but we're still gonna bring you FoodyFriday and a possibly desperate attempt to make

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a certain food seem healthy. You'relistening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI
AM six forty some of the storiesfollowing for you. Over in Britain,
they had a big snap election andthe Conservative Party that has been controlling things
for fourteen years is not going tobe controlling nothing anymore. The Labor Party

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has won the crucial number of seatsthat secures them a majority in the Parliament.
There, all right, let's getinto this. We're gonna do some
Foody Friday. I know that Neilis off, but I like Foody Friday
on a Friday, and I likefood, and I like the first subject

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of today's Foody Friday? Ice cream. Is there anybody on this show who
doesn't like ice cream? To me, this is a very yeah. I
didn't think anybody would speak up.There might be one of you that doesn't
like ice cream, but I'm guessingyou're too afraid. I mean, I
like non dairy ice cream, Okay, all right, that counts. I

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like the real stuff. Can't havethe real stuff. I'm sorry. Oh
my well, all right, Soeverybody who loves ice cream, right,
yes, So here's the thing.We all love ice cream in some form
or another. Nobody says ice creamis healthy. Nobody walks around and says,

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hey, you know, I'm tryingto eat more healthy, so I've
started eating more ice cream. Butthere are some dietitians who are trying to
make ice cream sound healthy. Forexample, and I will name them.
There's a dietitian named Shelley. Oh, don't giggle when I say her name.

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I swear to God her name isShelly Balls. And she said in
an interview with Yahoo that, well, one of the benefits of icecream nutritionally
is that a serving of ice creamhas about twelve percent of your daily requirement
for calcium. And calcium is anutrient that we most of us, don't

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get enough of. It's under consumedin our normal eating pattern. So how
about that when you have that icecream cone, you're getting some calcium also,
she says six grams of protein preservingplus or minus a little bit,
depending on the brand, And that'sthe same amount of protein in a hard

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boiled egg or an ounce of almonds. Okay, fine, there are obviously
sources of calcium that are healthier thanice cream and protein. But fine.
Now Here comes Stephanie Vanta Zelfton,another dietitian who was talking to Yahoo,

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and she said, and I wantto believe that whoever wrote this is mischaracterizing
what she said, but it saysshe often recommends ice cream as a dessert
option for her diabetic clients. Nowthe thinking is this, Okay, ice
cream has sugar, yes, butit also has fat and protein. So

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if you combine the fat and theprotein with the sugar, it actually reduces
the spike that you might see ifyou ate something that was more sugary.
I mean, this makes I guessI could see this that it would be
better if you're diabetic, it wouldbe better to eat ice cream than to
eat cotton candy. But I alsoI would think, and I don't want

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to bum anybody out, but ifyou're diabetic, maybe the best dessert option
is not dessert. So now,of course, if you follow anything on
social media, you see this newtrend which is to really try to make
ice cream healthier. And it's allthese people who are basically making ah I

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want to say fake ice cream.It's all these fitness people. I'm sure
you've seen them on your TikTok,your Instagram reels, whatever where they're taking
Like, take some cottage cheese.This is true. If you haven't seen
this, I'm about to make yougo yuck. Maybe take some cottage cheese
and some protein powder and maybe someI like stevia, and put it in

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the blender and then pour it ina dish and then put it in the
freezer. And that's ice cream.And boy is it healthy. It might
be healthy, but it's not icecream. Also, the people that are
talking about, oh, what youdo is you take your ice cream and
then you put other stuff in itto make it healthier, like chia seeds
and hemp seeds and oats. Yeah, if I'm gonna give an ice cream

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cone to a horse, I mightdo that. Oh. I love ice
cream, don't get me wrong.I love it. I love it too
much. I really do love ittoo much. Remember when Nancy Pelosi was
in the news because she did somevideo from her house and she was showing
off her kitchen and she opened upthis fancy refrigerator and like she had an

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entire refrigerator that was nothing but pintsof super premium ice cream. Remember that?
And people are like, what's wrongwith you, lady? And I
was like, why do you onlyhave one refrigerator that's entirely full of ice
cream? But I'm never gonna pretendthe ice cream is healthy. Let's talk
about this now. The weekend iscoming, It's a holiday weekend. There's

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gonna be a ton of cooking outgoing on. And cooking out has a
long history in this country. Andone thing I found out that was amazing
is how the charcoal briquette was inventedand the people, the four people that
are involved in making it. Soyou can go to the grocery store and

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get a bag of Kingsford charcoal burgett. And I'm not being preferential to the
Kingsford brand, except that Eg Kingsford, who was a real estate agent,
is one of these four guys responsiblefor you having it. The other three

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are Thomas Edison, Henry Ford,and some guy named John Burrows who's probably
really mad that he's nowhere near hisfamous as these other people. But it
all started when, you know,Henry Ford was building cars and back in
the day the Model t's had wood. The running boards were wood, the
dashboards were wood, the spokes ofthe wheels were wood. You needed about

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one hundred feet of hardwood for eachcar. So he got with this EG.
Kingsford was actually a real estate agent, and they worked together and they
bought this huge parcel of timberland upin Michigan, I think like three hundred
thousand acres, and they built asaw mill there and a parts plant there,
and they actually founded a town calledKingsford for the workers to live in.

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And they started making the stuff forthe cars. And then Henry Ford
said, look at all this wastedwood, though, what a waste of
money, this wood that we thataren't going into the parts. What can
we do with it? And soone of the chemists that Ford, found
a way to take this wood scrapand mix it with some other stuff and
create these little lumps of fuel andthey called them charcoal bricketes. Now,

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what is Thomas Edison's role. Hisrole is he helped design a factory to
make these charcoal brickets right next tothe sawmill there. And eventually, long
story short, Kingsford ended up gettingthe name on a charcoal bricket company in

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the fifties. That's why the Kingsfordbrand is named after this guy. And
once that happened in the fifties whereyou could just walk into a grocery store
and get him, that's when barbecueswent crazy in this country. And the
other thing is that the reason weassociate grilling with men is because that's how

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it was marketed. All the advertisingabout grilling out in the fifties and the
sixties. Not only was it alwaysa man, always at the grill in
the ad, but you had anaggressive message that grilling was for men and
not for women. There was afood writer named Clementine Paddleford who wrote a

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column in nineteen sixty where she saidbarbecue is fast becoming a national sport,
one for men only. And thenin that same newspaper they were doing a
cookout competition and they put in thetext they go the winners and their wives
could win these prizes, and youcouldn't even enter if you were a lady.

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Now that's going away, and nowthere's a lot of women who are
becoming grill masters, even like publiclyso, and winning competitions and all of
that. But it did start outas a boys club. Hey, let's
get some news from Heather Brooker andthen we'll close out Foody Friday with a
lawsuit about sodas and the potato chipthat will rule the world. You're listening

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to Bill Handle on demand from KFIAM six forty. Now we're doing Foody
Friday, and there's a lawsuit nowagainst the makers of this soft drink brand
called Poppy. None of you've seenit in the stores, but it is
all over the place, and itis a prebiotic soda. Just as we

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were talking about a move to tryto take ice cream and do something with
it to make it healthier, well, the new trend is taking soda pop
another thing that nobody really is gonnasay is healthy, and do something to
it so that you couldn't say ithas health benefits. And so what's going
on with Poppy, and I thinkthere's another brand called Allipop that's doing a

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similar thing, is to put somefiber in it, prebiotic fiber, to
be exact. And then that iswhat Poppy touts and the other brands of
these pre biotic soda is tout thatyou get the soda taste, but you
also get pre biotic fiber and maybethere's less sugar than a regular soda,

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but there's still some sugar in it. And this is big business. When
you take a drink and you dosomething to it like this, you're creating
a foot they call functional beverage.Right, there's this idea that like,
you're not drinking it just because youwant a nice drength, you're drinking it
for a health reason as well.And this is apparently a thirteen billion dollar

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market now functional beverages. Wow.By contrast, you know kombucha, which
I guess you could say is afunctional beverage, but it's also natural about
a billion, maybe maybe one pointone one point two billion a year.
Wellness shots, those little things thattaste awful that you take about a billion.

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But these functional beverages have way moreof a market share than that.
And so here comes a lawsuit saying, uh, first of all, you
don't have enough. You may beputting this prebiotic fiber in his soda,
but you don't have enough of itto really do anything. There are scientists
who are dedicated to figuring out howmuch prebiotic fiber in a can of soda

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do you need to have an effect? And there was a researcher out of
the University of Illinois who did theresearch and wrote a report and said,
if you put seven and a halfgrams of prebiotic fiber in a soda,
it might forgive me for this.I'm not trying to be gross, but
it might help soften your stools orincrease the number of powel movements that you

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have every week. And the lawsuitis saying, oh, you know,
seven and a half grams might dosomething, but you have like two grams
and that's not nearly enough to bemaking these claims. And so I don't
know what's going to happen with thiskind of a lawsuit. I would imagine
the FDA, which does have allkinds of rules about making health claims and

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how to label your products, mayrefine the requirements for what you can put
on a can of this soda.I will tell you that I did try.
I'm not going to say which one. I did try. One of
these brands of SODA's not so muchbecause I thought, oh, that's the
only way I'm going to get anyprebiotic fiber, but because was on big
sale that week. It was ona super duper sale, and I love

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a bargain. Uh, And I'mnot gonna lie. They're weird. They
taste to me, they taste justweird, not bad, but weird,
Like there's the soda part, butyou can sense the fiber part a little
bit separately, and it's not thatenjoyable. Here we go, ladies and

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gentlemen. Soon the world will bedominated by the great God Pringles, and
more specifically, mister P Pringles Mingles. Mister P apparently is the mascot of
Pringles, and mister P is gonnabe the king of the snack world because

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the parent company that owns Springles,Kelenova, used to be Kellogg's, changed
their name, spun off their cerealdivision, said well, do the cereal
thing really anymore. We're gonna focuson snacks, and they are pinning their
hopes on Pringles, which is alreadythis is crazy to me. Three billion

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dollars a year from Pringles and they'renot happy. They're not satisfied with Pringles
selling three billion dollars a year.They want four billion dollars a year and
they say they can do it becausethe secret weapon of Pringles is since they're
a manufactured disc, it's not reallya disc but I can't think of a

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better word for the shape of aPringles. We've all seen a Pringles.
But it's a manufactured crisp, andyou can make it taste like anything anything
everything Bagel, carnaitis, taco,sharp white, cheddar and ranch teraoki,

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hoban yerro, mango, bowl ofbreakfast, cereal steak and onions. I'll
stop now you get the point.There are I believe it's one hundred and
fifty or one hundred and sixty differentPringles flavors all over the world. And

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this is how they're going to expand, because you see the area for expansion.
I don't know they're gonna make Americansbuy more Pringles, but you expand
worldwide. You go to a placethat doesn't have any Pringles. They're eating
some other kind of snack. Thoseare losers. We want to give them
Pringles. How are we going toget them to switch to Pringles. We'll

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find a flavor that they like overthere, you know that country had I
don't know, like in Belarus.They might have certain tastes and they'll figure
out what tastes do the people inBelarus like the most, and we'll just
engineer a Pringle. It tastes likethat and there you go. And it's
a very successful strategy because all ofthese special flavors sell like hotcakes. They're

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also expanding with you know, they'retrying to do the healthy thing as well.
The trend here today on Foody Fridayis things that aren't really healthy that
they try to make healthier. So, you know, they came out with
these harvest blends, Pringles multi grain, got sweet potatoes in there, that
kind of stuff. They're also gettinginto the spicy market with Pringles Scorching,

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and I guess what's coming out nowis Pringles Mingles, which is like a
puffed snack, so it's not likea manufactured disc. It's like a kind
of like a cheeto. I wouldimagine. It doesn't come in a can,
comes in a bag. And thisis their plot to take over the
world. I think Pringles when Iwas a kid and when I was in

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college, pringles were like I reallythought Pringles were the best tasting thing on
the planet, and I easily couldeat a whole tube of Pringles at once
easily. And then later as anadult, I bought some Pringles and I
don't know if they changed anything ornot, but they didn't seem as good.
All Right, I am done here. Thank you to everybody on the

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show today. You've been listening tothe Bill Handle Show. Catch My Show
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