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July 17, 2024 24 mins
California needs a million EV charging stations, but that’s ‘unlikely’ and ‘unrealistic.’ Outliving our peers is now a competitive sport. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about latest research regarding exercise keeping the brain young, Americans opting for ‘sleep divorce’ to accommodate bed partners, and the origins of creativity in the brain.
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good good song CONO. So Wednesdaymorning, July seventeenth, real quickly,
the podcast, the Bill Handleshow podcastis up and running. I drop it.
We drop it every Tuesday and Thursday. So yesterday was week number two

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and tomorrow is the next episode andthat becomes the end. Well, last
week was week number one. Thisis week number two, and so it's
every Tuesday. You can listen toit anytime obviously because it's a podcast,
and we drop it right after thisshow and you can just plug in later
on. And it's the Bill HandleShow podcast. And as of right now

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we're only on the iHeartRadio app.That's what's going on. There's some issues
going on, but it's the iHeartRadioapp, the Bill Handle Show podcast.
And what am I talking about thistime around? Oh, it's the last
part of what's happening at the RNC. I change it next week and it's
the story of Boeing. Right nextweek, story of Boeing. Fascinating story

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of how Boeing started and how theycompletely screwed the pooch. Okay, now
you hear me do commercials for Walter'sWholesale Electric. And so here's a topic
that and gave me I didn't pickout. And what do I say in
that commercial? There aren't enough chargingstations out there, right, So call

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them up, talk about it.Whether you're a business or whether you're a
municipality, it doesn't matter. Andlet me tell you why. Because public
chargers have to be built at anunprecedented pace to beat the target in less
than seven years, then doubled againto two million in twenty thirty five,

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and they cost a minimum of onehundred and twenty thousand dollars for a fast
charger. And therein is another storythat fast chargers versus kind of not so
fast chargers. So the sheer scaleof this buildout necessary is alarming experts and
lawmakers because the States is not goingto be prepared. I mean, we're

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buying cars, even though there's aslowdown in the sale of DS, We're
buying cars at a whole lot morespeed than the infrastructure you need X number
of charging stations for I don't evenknow the exact number X number of cars.
Well, the cars are being soldat a faster pace, so falling
behind are the chargers and well,bottom line, a million needed by the

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end of twenty thirty, ten timesmore than number available to drivers in December.
They have to literally make ten timesor allow or supply ten thousands,
ten ten times the number. Thetarget one hundred and twenty nine thousand new
states have to be built every yearfor the next seven years. Now there

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are eight thousand gas stations. Andthis is one of the reasons that EV
charging and EV purchasers are kind ofsweating bullets. I do. I mean,
I love my car. I havea BMW I bought from Stirling.
Look at all these commercials. Yougot to send them a Billkno, You've
got to make sure that sales getthis because they can send them a bill
for that. So I love myEV. However, I'm always sweating bullets.

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There aren't enough chargers out there,and here is a big difference is
superchargers. You can charge a carin twenty minutes, thirty minutes up to
eighty percent. Those are relatively fewand far between. The majority of chargers
out there are not superchargers. Forexample, you go downstairs in this building

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and there's a charging station on eachfloor of the parking structure, and I've
plugged in and it would take fifteenhours for that to be charged, or
eighteen hours. It charges my carat like four miles or six miles per
hour. And why is that?Because electricity is a lot cheaper at a

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lower speed a lower voltage than itis for a supercharger. Are the superchargers
bad for the battery? No,no they're not, because I thought there
is some ways charging the car thatwould be better than others. I don't
think so not. I don't getthat information at all. But the point
is is I would almost think youhave to make superchargers out there because the

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ones here and I don't know it'siheard, or it's a concession. I
have no idea, but they're awaste of time. No, those are
owned by the building, that wouldimagine. I don't know if they are,
and maybe a concession. Maybe Ithink it's another company that provides them.
And they may even pay rent tothe building for all I know.
But the point is that that one'sa waste of time, and that's a
public charger. And when I driveout, I come up from Orange County

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to come here about half the time. What ends up happening. I have
to plan my mileage because I don'tknow where to charge because and that's the
other thing. There are so fewchargers that when I look at a supercharge
station, there are people there.And it's not like a gas station.

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You know that you fill up,but take a gas in three minutes.
It's a twenty minute charge. Soif there are two people ahead of you,
there's forty minutes plus your twenty minutes. You've just pissed away an hour
to charge your car. And this'sit's not easy. And what's the answer.

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The answer is a whole lot morechargers than a lot more infrastructure.
And it's going to cost buckets andbuckets of money. And I was going
to say a combustion engine, butwell, yeah we gas at yeah,
yeah, gas at what? ButI guess you could do the other thing
too, Yeah, five almost sixdollars a gallon, right, it's and

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it's twice as expensive. Here California'sinsaying the cost. Of course, everything
is the cost. So Tesla.And by the way, I was passing,
I was in the West Valley yesterdayand I passed a Tesla charging station,
which must have had twenty five chargers, and those are all superchargers.
Elon Musk pulled back and weren't makingmoney, and now he went forward,

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so he sort of changed his mind. But here's the bottom line. If
these chargers are not built, ifthe infrastructure or not is not there,
those of us who drive evs,I got to tell you we're going to
be in a world of hurt.And now we're talking about how does this
work well? Without funding, withoutsubsidies, without tax breaks, without straight

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out grants from the government, it'sjust not going to happen. And there
it is. Here's some more taxdollars at work. God, life is
so much fun, isn't it?All right? This is a fun one.
There is a guy by the nameof Brian Johnson. Okay, a
big deal, it's you know thename. No, but he founded Braintree

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and sold it for eight hundred milliondollars. Okay, so he's known for
that, But he's more popularly knownas that crazy guy trying to not die.
And by the way, that's selfdescribed on his ex bio. And
he has spent millions of dollars ofself experimentation to age as little as possible,

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I mean dozens of daily powders andpills and gene therapies and eating appropriately.
And he has just published his methodsand health data. And here's what
happens. Being attacked so much,there's so much vitriol. He's beingnsidered such
a lunatic that he actually decided toreframe this whole thing. And this is

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brilliant. Actually, he made notdying a professional sport. How does that
work? Well, here's how itworks. He says his pace of aging,
and that is everybody's pace. Andyou'll explain why in a minute.
He celebrates his birthday once every nineteenmonths. And what he came up with

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was this anti aging competition that anyonecan enter as long as they've completed a
blood test, a specific one thatactually can measure how fast you are aging
biologically. So I guess if youwin, you're around, and if you're
a loser, you're dead. That'show you can tell people have not done

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well. And so these are peoplethat all over the world and they simply
put up this information and this isall on Obviously, there's an algorithm involved,
and it's all done online and youput in information. And the key
metric is the pace of aging.I mean obviously age, but can you

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slow it down? And that's measuredby this blood test, which actually manages
the competition. So it's like MillerKaplan right, independent or Cooper's what's the
counting that the Academy awards is.Yeah, I'm blank to on that.

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But it's an independent company that measuresall of this. And they have a
leaderboard like golf and it and theentrance. It ranks the entrance by the
lowest average age or rate of aging. So the slower you age per this

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blood test that they can figure outthe rate of aging, the more you
win. And now he's going tohave another leader board that shows the slowest
agers by organ systems. For example, who has the youngest kidney and Neil,
you'll appreciate that because you don't haveyour own kidney, uh liver,

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No, it is yours. Nowthe title change when you got the kidney
from the donor. Yeah, lotsof paperwork. You go to the DMV.
No, yeah, take new picturesCounty Recorder. There it is.
Here's enough now. Yeah, that'sthe whole point. You have to get
me drunk in a bathtub. InLas Vegas to take it out or take
you to India. N't think thisis sad though the whole time it defeats

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the purpose of life, which isliving. If you're focused on just extending
your life, or then you're not. I agree, I agree you're lost
in this kind of I agree.For example, I eat a lot of
people I know really nailed me foreating costco process food, which, by
the way, I have a chickenbacon the refrigerator and I had one this

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morning. And eating all this processedfood we know now is not healthy for
you. And you have all kindsof I guess diseases or factors cholesterol and
heart disease, YadA, YadA,YadA, and so give those up and
you'll live two point three years longer. Whatever the stat is, No,

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no I like them. I'll takeit. Poor Richard Simmons exercising his whole
life and then slips in Why didhe slip and hit his head or something?
Or Jim Fix? Remember the storyabout Jim Fix, the guy who
actually created running as a sport.We're running as an exercise, you know,

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everybody basically created jogging as an industry. He died to fifty two jogging
of a heart attack. That joggingwill kill you every time. I don't
know who jobs, but you're deadif you jump in Silver Lake here outside
of Los Angeles there is there wasa guy who was a cardiologist, I
think, who was known as thenewspaper guy because he would read a newspaper

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while walking every single day, walkedevery day and died. He just i'd
walking or something. And it's like, there's no guarantees you got it ink
poisoning, that it somehow got intohis pores, and I don't think so
okay. By the way, thisguy, you know what he calls this,

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this whole competition is so weird,the Rejuvenation Olympics. I mean it
is just completely crazy, all right. And by the way, the rivalries
all over the world, and youknow, people sign up, they pay
five hundred bucks for the blood testsand it all goes in and they're just

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okay. And by the way,it all does it all happens with jeans.
That's all it's about. Now thathas ninety percent of it. I'm
not a metic doctors. Matter offact, I may ask that of Jim
because Jim is coming up. We'redoing some medical news just my mother who
never exercised, ate horribly and lasteduntil she was ninety eight. My dad,

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who died at eighty five, andhe should have died at thirty five
because he had effectively uncontrolled blood pressureand heart problems and he should be dead.
You don't, Well he's dead now, Well he is dead, Yeah,
but he should have died. Imean he lasted thirty years longer than
he should have. It's the jeans. It's the jeans. My grandparents on

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my dad's side, now, theydied young. Auschwitz had a lot to
do with it. Jeesus Low Wheez, that's actually true, all right.
Jim Keeney, Good morning, Jim, Good morning, Bill. All right.
Question that just came up and Iwanted to bring you into it.

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There was a story that I justdid about this crazy ass zillionaire who now
has the rejuvenation Olympics. I meanthat's literally it's a worldwide contest to see
who is aging the least, whois aging the slowest, And there's a
blood test and there's a whole scienceto it where you can measure the aging
process, or at least he sayshe can, and I we Neil and

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I were talking, and all theexercise, all of the good food that
you eat, non processed crap,the vegetables and the fruits, and the
proper amount of protein. How doesthat compare to your straight out your genes.
Isn't that like ninety percent of everything? You know, your genes play

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a large role in this. Butwhat we found, and probably one of
the stories we'll talk about today,is how exercise and things like that can
modify your genes. So at thispoint, I mean, I think if
you were talking about caveman days,when people are just walking around and we're
basically all, you know, gettingthe same type of natural nutrition, You're
right, genes would be the numberone thing. But in the United States

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right now, the way we livesuch extreme sedentary lifestyles and we eat such
extreme processed food that no, Ithink that those behaviors probably have a bigger
influence at this point than your genes. And not only that, Remember we've
talked about this before about your microbiome, which is the genes that are present

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in your body due to bacteria andviruses and everything else. That actually is
like ten times the number of genesthat your own genetic makeup is, and
those are producing proteins in your bodyhaving health effects. I really believe that
those have a huge impact, andwe know that those are influenced by exercise
and diet. This is very depressing, very very depressing. So you know

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it's good news because you have control. You have much more control than you
would like to think you have.I know you'd rather just say, hey,
man, i' let's throw throw ourhands up in the air. I
have no control over this. Butyou do have control. Yeah, you
wish she had talked to me whenI put a Costco chicken bake in the
toaster oven here that I have forbreakfast this morning. Although I am,

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but I will give you this.I am now walking an hour a day.
I am out there walking an houra day. So you know I'm
there not eating well. Occasionally Ieat okay, but for the most part,
it's crap. Okay, wait,we've gone to lunch. I'll go
through. We've gone through. Igo through two baskets of bread. No

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you don't, that's me. Ohno, we both do. But that's
and you are so fit and you'rein such good shape. It drives me
nuts, and you have hair.It drives me completely nuts, all right,
yeah, yeah, yeah, great, all right, so much for
that exercising eating. Well, uh, Jim, let me have something you're

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you know, you're not a nutritionist, right, you're an er doctor.
Do I have that right? Yeah, except that my undergraduate degree was kinesiology,
so we had lots of you know, so I learned more about this
in undergrad than medical school. Yes, that's rightening. I was just about
to say, you don't know whatthe hell you're talking about. That's not
your specialty. But okay, areyou taking away from me? Okay,

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Jim? Sleep divorce. Let's talkabout number one, what that is and
what it does. Sure, so, I mean, okay, it sounds
like a negative connotation, right,sleep divorce. But it's surprising that the
twenty nine percent of Americans in thisstudy by the American Academy of Sleep Medicine,
they found that couples sleep in separatebeds, and they do it for

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the purpose of improving their sleep quality. You know, because you know,
if you have a bedmate that snores, tosses, and turns, you know,
or has a different sleep schedule wherethey're getting up way earlier than you
were, going to bed much later, this can impact your sleep so it's
it's a way that, you know, tactic for people to improve their sleep

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and still actually stay together. Yeah. Isn't that why God invented king beds
for examptly those problems? Yeah,I guess, but I don't know.
Maybe everybody doesn't live in a placewhere a king bed. That's a good
point. My daughter Barbara, shehas a way of somehow ending the night

(18:26):
sleeping across the bed, uh,where her head is on and and so
for anybody that's sleeping with her,usually you get her head in your lap,
and not in a good way either. No, no, no,
no, no, no, anyway, thank god, are there? I

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got him on that one. No, you got all of us. I'll
be seeing you later the park now, bye. But audies, excuse me,
I'm my little froggy. Here arethere studies on that? No?
No, no, no no,I'm talking about the sleep part, right,
I know. Yes, I meanpeople need to if you have a

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sleeping problem, storing problem, itdefinitely. The medical part of the story
is that sleep apnea is a realthing, and it's something you should be
considered being tested for to make surethat you don't have a treatable condition.
You don't have a treatable. You'restill laughing, Jim, Come on,
it wasn't that funny. Sleep apneawhich I've had, and I've tried all

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kinds of things, seatpat machine,which I don't know how anybody can use
a seapat machine because that's just crazy. How dangerous to sleep apnea. I
mean it's serious. You know,your blood your oxygen level drops in sleep
apnea, and if you have anunderlying condition like like a heart condition or
hearty rhythmia, it can a slutelyor if you're at risk for a stroke,

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it can induce all of those,so it can be very serious.
Yeah, I don't know if youlooked at sleep apnea and that's one of
those things, because I have hada sleep test at one of those one
of those centers, which I don'tthink they do anymore. Where you go
and they give you that sort ofcomfortable motel room and there's the big glass

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window that people are looking through andlooking at you sleeping, and you have
all kinds of monitors and crap,and I don't know how they can measure
it because you're sleeping in a strangebed. You know people are watching you,
and how do you somehow get thesame sleep with the same type of
sleep? But you have all ofthese different ways of dealing with a CEPAP.
We know that works, except it'shorrible to use. But how about

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those surgeries that they talk about orthose implants to make you sleep better?
I look at that and this ispretty easy once you do it, But
you know, does that work?Would you do it? For example?
Yeah? I mean, I thinkthat the most effective intervention is the seapap
machine. It's minimally invasive. Althoughyou're right that it's a scary looking thing.

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If you wake up in the middleof the night and see somebody with
one of these seapat masks on theirface connected to a machine, looks like
something out of a horror movie.But I mean the machines now, they
make them so quiet. There's multipledifferent devices now that are newer coming on
the market that attached to your face. So even for people who in the
past have had trouble, but right, I mean, the compliance with that

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is relative. You know, onthe lower side, a large percentage of
people who start trying to use aseapap machine ultimately stop using it because of
either discomfort or just you know,the clunkiness of it trying to sleep,
but the people who do use itget just tremendous improvement and much better sleepy.
I think the surgeries, I'm notsure. The surgeries are kind of

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a secondary way to approach it,and I'm not sure they've had as much
success with surgery as they have withseapap machine. Yeah. Our executive producer
Michelle either she or her husband usesa seapap and she swears by it,
says it's the best thing that everhappened. And I've tried one, but
it's not even so much as thediscomfort on your face. You have that

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tube and if you can't roll over, for example, if you asleep on
your side, you have to sleepon the side of where the machine is
and not the other side. Imean, it takes some real learning,
but people, I think most peoplethat sleep on their side or their stomach
because of the fact that when theysleep on their back, they occlude their
airway and they can't breathe. Soall of a sudden they're comfortable on their

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back because their airway is open.I know my dad used it too,
he swore by it. He gotthe best sleeps of his life. Once
he started using it, and henever went back into atrial fibrillation. He
had atrial fibrillation, never went backinto it after sleep out there his seapap
machine. You know what, maybeI'm going to try it, you know
what, I'm going to give ita shot. You know, you've convinced
me to do it. All right, Jim as always, thank you,

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and we'll talk again next Wednesday.Take Care doctor Jim Keeney, our er
specialist, who's actually I guess themedical correspondent medical experts of the show.
I think our go to all right, we're done, guys. I'm taking
phone calls in just a moment asI lock out and say goodbye, and
the phone number for a handle onthe law eight seven seven five to zero

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calls, and you know how patientI am with everybody, So it goes
pretty quickly. Eight seven seven fiveto zero eleven fifty and tomorrow morning all

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over again. We start with AmyKing wake up call at five am.
Neil and I are here as wellas Cono and Ann as usual, so
we'll catch you in the morning.Handle and the Morning crew. This is
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