August 20, 2024 • 20 mins
KFI's own Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Tech Tuesday'! Rich talks about consumer reports saying it’s not worth paying people remover sites, electronic labels at stores, Sonder teams up with Marriott, and a new way to listen to podcasts. Can Taylor Swift sue Donald Trump over AI photos and implied endorsement? Families are going into debt for Disney vacation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bill Handle and the Morning Crew. It is a Taco Tuesday,
August twentieth.
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Speaker 1 (01:05):
Good morning, Rich, Hey, good morning to Bill. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm okay, I'm okay. It's one of those warnings.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
All right, we got a lot to cover, for sure,
starting with electronic labels at stores. How instead of those
paper labels that they change or those price little placard things,
it can all change up instantly, and the Biden administration,
(01:32):
Kamala Harris wants to somehow look at that and say
stores shouldn't do that because they can change prices whenever
they want. There was the issue of dynamic pricing for
food at the supermarket.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, that's where the senators have the issue because we've
seen these labels at a lot of stores. I mean,
when Amazon opened their stores, all of their labels were digital,
and when you know, you go to a Best Buy,
a majority of the labels are digital there as well.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But it's grocery stores that people have an issue with,
especially some senators, because you know, you can price gouge,
you can change prices very quickly. Let's say there's a
natural disaster, you can up all the prices. There's a trend,
something's really hot, you can up those prices. And so
they're worried that this is food and these are staples
that people are using, and that could be a problem.
(02:21):
I see both sides of this. Obviously, it's convenient, it's cheaper,
you know, in grocery stores. They're literally going through and
replacing labels on like a weekly basis, which seems so archaic.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, and it takes a lot of energy, a lot
of time, a lot of effort, and number of people.
But isn't that sort of you know, peeing into the wind?
Do I have that right where to not do that?
Is you're almost a luddyite today? And that is absolutely
the way it's going.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, yeah, and that's the thing. So, I mean, here's
the side of it that I see. There's obviously going
to be some big data companies that are going to
be able to optimize on a maybe a daily basis
the pricing that you see in a store. And it's
kind of like, you know, you go to the gas station,
you see those prices change all the time. Can you
imagine if everything changes in the grocery store on a
(03:11):
daily basis optimized by big data and AI. And I
think that's the concern here, is that they can really
up the price on products that maybe a more luxury
buyer might buy if someone with more money, and then
they can lower the prices on other products like the staples.
But they can find that sweet spot of really making
a lot of money just based on big data. And
so I think that's the fear of the senators, and
(03:33):
it is going to happen. It's inevitable, right and by the.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Way, it's not going to happen. It is a legitimate fear.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But then the argument is, what do you do to
stop the abuse of it? Is that now? And here's
the political aspect that's called price control, telling stores they
can't charge what they want.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Right, And there's where the problem is because right, it's
like how much how much the government do you want
involved in your grocery store prices? I mean, look, it's
a problem. It's one of these things where data and
technology is coming in to help these retailers, which, by
the way, grocery margins are already so slim, So anything
that can help these grocery stores, not that they aren't
(04:12):
making money, but you know, they want to make more money.
And it's one of these things where this is going
to happen. But do we want the government to step
in and say, hey, you can't raise the price on
a daily basis, You can't change the price on a
daily basis because people depend on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
A new way to listen to podcasts. But you have
a podcast. I have a podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So let's talk about telling people, hey, you can listen
to it this way.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Also, let's talk about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, I mean, look, you know you've got your podcast,
like you said, I've got mine. There are many ways
to listen to podcasts. You just search in your favorite
audio app, whether that's iHeart, whether that's Apple Podcasts, whether
that's Spotify. I mean, there's many, many ways. But kind
of interesting that Apple has come out with a website
now where you can actually listen to podcasts just listen,
because they've had that ability before in a very limited way,
(05:03):
but now you can actually sign in and kind of
see your entire podcast list, your library, your queue, and
that's a podcast dot Apple dot com. This is compatible
with major desktop browsers Tafari, Chrome, Edged Firefox. It also
allows you to search through shows and see what's going
on there, discover a new podcast, and also it sinks
with your account. So it's just let's say you work
(05:25):
at a company corporate environment that uses a Windows computer,
but you have your iPhone. You want to listen to
your podcast at work. Now you can do it through
your desktop by logging into this website, which makes things
a lot more convenient.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, and basically listening to podcasts while you're on the payroll, right,
and hey, you.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Know, look, whatever gets you through your day, Bill, you know,
I mean, I think people have been listening to radio
at work for a long time, so I think this
is another way of doing it. But it's one of
these things where Apple is opening up just a little bit.
You know, they're so proprietary. Everything quires an iPhone, a
Mac computer, an iPad. It's nice that they're actually giving
people something where they can do this on the web.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
All right, Sounder, let's say talk about that it's a
digital platform and what does it do.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So have you heard of this company?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I have not, Okay, so it's very interesting. I did
a story with them a couple of years ago, Bill,
and their whole thing was that they're basically anti Airbnb
and anti hotel room. But the funny thing is they
are now linking up with Marriott to sell their rooms.
So what they did was this company bought like buildings
around the world, like apartment buildings, basically old hotels, and
(06:39):
they would convert them into sort of this digital first experience.
So It's basically an Airbnb, but managed by a company
that had these places across the world, so it was
very clean. It was the standardized you know, check in,
check out, all that kind of stuff, but it was
all done from your smartphone, so you would not actually
have a front desk clerk there. In most cases, you
would just go on your phone. It would give you
(07:00):
a code for the door, you let yourself in, and
you let yourself into your room. So obviously there's cost
savings there. But now a couple of years later, I
find it interesting that they're now linking up with Marriott
because clearly they've had trouble selling these rooms because you've
never heard of them. Most people I've talked to have
not heard of them. But now that they're going to
be available in the Marriott app, it's going to open
up and expand their horizons, which is actually quite smart.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Now, if they had enough money to buy hotel room
or buy hotels and buildings all over the world, you
would think they would have marketing money. I mean, I
pay attention to commercials clearly because we make our living
off of commercials. I have never not only not heard
of it, never seen anything like this that's been advertised.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, yeah, you're not alone. It's literally I've never seen
a word about this company anywhere, and so I think
that was part of the problem, is like who even
knew to book this place? You have to download their
app and book it through there. Now, I will tell
you a couple of things to their advantage the pricing.
Most of the places that they rent are very much
(08:03):
like an apartment style, so it might be like two bedrooms,
three bedrooms, a work area, and the buildings are really nice,
like they renovated them to a really nice way, and
the prices were excellent. But I think again the problem
was you're competing against bohemoths like these would not show
up necessarily in n expedia dot com search. They wouldn't
show up on your Marriott app or your Higight app or
(08:24):
your you know, Hilton app and so or in Airbnb search.
And so I think that, you know, they tried to
go up against Airbnb in their own little way, and
I think that failed. And now they're just kind of joining. Okay,
let's get on Marriott and we'll start these places that way.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So mary I is going to compete against itself or
just as as a market that normally would not be
there at a Maritt hotel to begin with.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's a good question. I think you're you're right. It's
it's more of like the person that's seeking an Airbnb
style room, so for instance, families or you know, young
digital native kind of workers. You know, they want to
get a place where they can work and also have
like a two bedroom place, maybe share it with friends.
They're searching on Marriott and they're like, oh, that's cool,
this is available. I didn't even know that this was available.
(09:09):
We were going to Nashville. It was like a year
or two ago, and they literally had like a four
bedroom apartment that you could rent and like stay there
with friends and family and then you know, common living
room kind of thing. So it's kind of a market
that Marriott. They just want their hands and everything because
they're a behemoth. And I think that this is a
pretty smart move by them.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, and real quickly, consumer reports and this is about
these companies. They're called what people remover sites where And
I had Anne look me up, just me, and it's
where I lived. All the places I worked at the
one time I got arrested is on there. Even my
(09:50):
interview with the police, saying she looked a lot older
than that. That's not true, by the way, that Neil,
you're just ros man. Yeah, I was all right, rich.
So we have a minute to talk about that. Paying
people or paying companies to get that off the internet.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, this is a huge, huge business. You search, like
you said, you search for yourself, you see your name
on there, and you're like, I don't want that on there,
and then next thing you know, you find yourself one
of these people remover sites. They charge anywhere from twenty
dollars a month to two hundred and fifty bucks a year,
whatever it is, and they try to take your name
off all these sites. The problem is, Consumer Report says
it's not very effective. They try it on thirteen different sites.
(10:34):
The best that performed were what's called easy opt Out.
They were only twenty dollars for the year. So if
you want to try one of these things, that's probably
your best bet. But most of the other ones were really.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Bad at it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And you know, they're just so tough to get your
names out of these sites, because what happens is it's
like whack a mole. You get it out of one
of these sites, and it just pops up again later.
So and that's my question, save your money.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, but you're the information and then you know, all
kidding aside and did go on here's where she goes.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Did you live here? Yes? I did? Did you work here? Yes?
I did?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
How do you How don't they even pretend to get
be able to get rid of that stuff when you
have an internet full of that information?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
They don't, And that's why it's such a good business. So,
I mean, look, they can go and I've done this.
You can go to these websites like the spokios of
the world, the intelli search whatever, and you can do
a manual opt out request and it takes a while,
but it does work. But a lot of times your
information does come up again. So if you really want
an eye opening search, go to this website pentester dot com.
(11:36):
And I'm not kidding. The stuff that they come up
with is unlike anything I've ever seen. I'm talking user
names and passwords of your online account, all the places
you've worked, all the place. I mean, it's it's very
eye opening. And again they're trying to get people to
subscribe and pay to get this stuff taken down, but
it's it's out there and it's a lot of it's
tough to get to get removed.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And what's that again that I'm writing this down?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
The website that is pen tester like pen like a
pencil pen tester T E S T E R. You
pop your email addressed into there, and I'm not kidding.
This stuff it comes up with is just unbelievable, Like
I've never seen such a thorough site before.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
All right? Rich, thank you, We'll catch you this weekend
and of course next Tuesday with Tech Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You have a good one.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Take care, all right, Neil, you didn't think that was funny?
Huh when I made that joke? No, I no, No,
that's true. All right, tell you what, why don't we
move in a different direction. I'm going to spend just
before we are our next segment, the Disneyland segment, which
(12:46):
is always fun to talk about.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I am going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
A couple of images that came out on True Social
and this happens Sunday night, and this is where Donald
Trump shared these images. He reposted and it is a
photo AI generated photo of Taylor Swift and a group
of her followers called Swifties for Trump. Endorsing him, okay,
(13:12):
and he wrote one of the captions, I accept, Well,
that's a problem because she did not endorse Trump. As
a matter of fact, in twenty twenty, she backed Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris and doesn't really enjoy Trump very much.
She accuses him of stoking the fires of white supremacy
and racism. So, needless to say, she is not really
(13:32):
happy that on true Social is an AI generated photo
of her in connection with the Trump campaign. Now, one
of the images in the post actually is legitimate.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There's a woman in a.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
White Swifties for Trump t shirt homemade shirt, by the way,
t shirt, and it is a galley of Jenna Polorazick,
a Polish name, and she is truly someone who is
part of the group of Swifties for Trump. How many
people in there, well, I know of one. And what
(14:10):
is hilarious is if Trump spokesperson Stephen Chung, he's the
guy who releases all the press.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Releases, etc. For the Trump Trump campaign.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He said, Swifties for Trump is a massive movement that
grows bigger every day. And Kamala Harris is guilty of
sin for all the hurt she has caused every American.
Now here is the question, and this was what's going around.
Of course that's ludicrous. Swifties for Trump, and they'll find
a couple of people there. They don't even have T
shirts that they're not homemade. You know, at least get
(14:45):
some tea T shirts printed up. The question is can
Taylor Swift sue Trump for that? There is a professor
at Boston University, Jessica Silbey says, you bet. That fake
endorsement and violates Swift's right to publicity. She has a
right to the publicity of her name, her image, her likeness,
(15:07):
and she controls it, particularly in this case where a
fake endorsement is being put on a platform, in this
case truth social and last month, a bipartisan No Fakes
Act was introduced in the Senate to deal with this.
By the way, ten states, including Tennessee, where she lives,
(15:28):
have already enacted legislation to regulate these deep fakes, which
could give her even more room to sue Trump or
the campaign.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Now I tell you where they got this idea.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
James Walker, in an entertainment attorney, represents the estate of
Isaac Cay', super famous musician brilliant filed a copyright infringement
notice demanding the Trump campaign paid the estate three million
dollars in licensing fees. Why Well, because the campaign is
using Hayes's composition Hold on, I'm coming at the campaign rallies,
(16:05):
and you can't play tunes unless you pay for the
tuons in a commercial setting as well.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
As a campaign.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, now, let's talk about Disney and the reason I'm
bringing up Disney because it is always one of the
favorite topics for Amy. Neil is off and running someplace,
and Amy, here is a story in the.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
New York Times which you're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Come on, and it has to do with a family
that has been going to Disney since twenty fifteen. The
park in Orange County, Florida, and this last time around
was over six thousand dollars for a stay at the
Disney Park. Extra admission for Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party.
(16:55):
That's two hundred dollars per person, one hundred dollars for
the photo survey that the park has that you can download. Also,
they're redoing the fast pass you now pay for it. It's
gotten out of control. You when you go, you don't
feel somewhat ripped off me.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, no, how much would you spend on a vacation.
Let's say you have two weeks and you're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It at Disney what would be At what point do
you go, Nah, I'm not interested.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Assume you're a family of four. Well, we have a
family of four, so I understand. But you know, put
yourself in those shoes.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I don't know if you were going to go, like
to Disney World, I would think you'd spend like ten
thousand dollars for a family of four.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's my point.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
There you go, That is my point, And it has
gotten to the point. And by the way, there are
people that I still go. I mean, Disney World eighteen
million people a year ago, disney Land ten million people
a year ago, and the hotels and all of it
is just hugely, hugely profitable.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
The point I'm making is, and this is the point
of this.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The single spot where people will go into debt more
than any other place in terms of vacation are Disney vacations.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
That's because it's the happiest place.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
On earth until you run out of money, until you
realize that you are now broke, and people do I mean,
it's extraordinary where disposable income the first place that is
spent coming back was it Disney, And the place where
people are willing to spend more money and go into debt.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
To spend the money is at Disney. Now.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I happen to like Disney. I'm a fan. I used
to go when actually you could didn't have to stand
in line for four hours, or if you today, unless
you pay for a fast pass, you're not getting in.
It's hours and hours, and it's gotten very, very, very expensive.
And I've shared with you before, it used to be
a bargain Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Granted it wasn't all the rides they have today, but
the original Disneyland when it opened up was still pretty spectacular.
It was one dollar to get in for adults, and
it was that way for two three years. And if
you look at one dollar in nineteen fifty five equivalent
to today, that's exactly eleven dollars seventy four cents. That's
what Disney should cost to get into Disneyland. But not
(19:27):
counting the spectacular rights. You know, they've added a lot
to that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So what's the.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Bottom line, You're going into debt. I'm going into debt
if you go to Disney, Okay, that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I go to Disney and I'm not in debt. Well
there you are, okay, so you handle it well.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But you don't spend two weeks in Disney either, because
I can't afford to do that. All right, I'm taking
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Bill Handle and the Morning Crew. It is a Taco Tuesday,
August twentieth.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
A quick reminder, I'll do.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It later about the podcast. The Bill Handle Show podcast
is up today.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well here I am. I was gonna do it later,
I'm gonna do it now.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
The Bill Handle Show podcast is up and running. I
drop it every Tuesday. Episode goes every Tuesday and Thursday
nine am. As I leave the show and it's you
can go to Apple or iHeartRadio or Spotify the Bill.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Handles Show podcast.
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Also, the website is up too, and there says some
wonderful things are being said about me that I unfortunately
wrote myself. And that's Bill handleshowpodcast dot com. Rich Tomorrow
as usual on a Tuesday, KTLA Tech Reporter here on
KFI Saturdays eleven am to two pm, following my show
(00:59):
on Saturday's Handle on the Law Instagram at rich on
Tech website, richontech dot tv.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Good morning, Rich, Hey, good morning to Bill. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm okay, I'm okay. It's one of those warnings.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
All right, we got a lot to cover, for sure,
starting with electronic labels at stores. How instead of those
paper labels that they change or those price little placard things,
it can all change up instantly, and the Biden administration,
(01:32):
Kamala Harris wants to somehow look at that and say
stores shouldn't do that because they can change prices whenever
they want. There was the issue of dynamic pricing for
food at the supermarket.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, that's where the senators have the issue because we've
seen these labels at a lot of stores. I mean,
when Amazon opened their stores, all of their labels were digital,
and when you know, you go to a Best Buy,
a majority of the labels are digital there as well.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But it's grocery stores that people have an issue with,
especially some senators, because you know, you can price gouge,
you can change prices very quickly. Let's say there's a
natural disaster, you can up all the prices. There's a trend,
something's really hot, you can up those prices. And so
they're worried that this is food and these are staples
that people are using, and that could be a problem.
(02:21):
I see both sides of this. Obviously, it's convenient, it's cheaper,
you know, in grocery stores. They're literally going through and
replacing labels on like a weekly basis, which seems so archaic.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, and it takes a lot of energy, a lot
of time, a lot of effort, and number of people.
But isn't that sort of you know, peeing into the wind?
Do I have that right where to not do that?
Is you're almost a luddyite today? And that is absolutely
the way it's going.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, yeah, and that's the thing. So, I mean, here's
the side of it that I see. There's obviously going
to be some big data companies that are going to
be able to optimize on a maybe a daily basis
the pricing that you see in a store. And it's
kind of like, you know, you go to the gas station,
you see those prices change all the time. Can you
imagine if everything changes in the grocery store on a
(03:11):
daily basis optimized by big data and AI. And I
think that's the concern here, is that they can really
up the price on products that maybe a more luxury
buyer might buy if someone with more money, and then
they can lower the prices on other products like the staples.
But they can find that sweet spot of really making
a lot of money just based on big data. And
so I think that's the fear of the senators, and
(03:33):
it is going to happen. It's inevitable, right and by the.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Way, it's not going to happen. It is a legitimate fear.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But then the argument is, what do you do to
stop the abuse of it? Is that now? And here's
the political aspect that's called price control, telling stores they
can't charge what they want.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Right, And there's where the problem is because right, it's
like how much how much the government do you want
involved in your grocery store prices? I mean, look, it's
a problem. It's one of these things where data and
technology is coming in to help these retailers, which, by
the way, grocery margins are already so slim, So anything
that can help these grocery stores, not that they aren't
(04:12):
making money, but you know, they want to make more money.
And it's one of these things where this is going
to happen. But do we want the government to step
in and say, hey, you can't raise the price on
a daily basis, You can't change the price on a
daily basis because people depend on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
A new way to listen to podcasts. But you have
a podcast. I have a podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So let's talk about telling people, hey, you can listen
to it this way.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Also, let's talk about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, I mean, look, you know you've got your podcast,
like you said, I've got mine. There are many ways
to listen to podcasts. You just search in your favorite
audio app, whether that's iHeart, whether that's Apple Podcasts, whether
that's Spotify. I mean, there's many, many ways. But kind
of interesting that Apple has come out with a website
now where you can actually listen to podcasts just listen,
because they've had that ability before in a very limited way,
(05:03):
but now you can actually sign in and kind of
see your entire podcast list, your library, your queue, and
that's a podcast dot Apple dot com. This is compatible
with major desktop browsers Tafari, Chrome, Edged Firefox. It also
allows you to search through shows and see what's going
on there, discover a new podcast, and also it sinks
with your account. So it's just let's say you work
(05:25):
at a company corporate environment that uses a Windows computer,
but you have your iPhone. You want to listen to
your podcast at work. Now you can do it through
your desktop by logging into this website, which makes things
a lot more convenient.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, and basically listening to podcasts while you're on the payroll, right,
and hey, you.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Know, look, whatever gets you through your day, Bill, you know,
I mean, I think people have been listening to radio
at work for a long time, so I think this
is another way of doing it. But it's one of
these things where Apple is opening up just a little bit.
You know, they're so proprietary. Everything quires an iPhone, a
Mac computer, an iPad. It's nice that they're actually giving
people something where they can do this on the web.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
All right, Sounder, let's say talk about that it's a
digital platform and what does it do.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So have you heard of this company?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I have not, Okay, so it's very interesting. I did
a story with them a couple of years ago, Bill,
and their whole thing was that they're basically anti Airbnb
and anti hotel room. But the funny thing is they
are now linking up with Marriott to sell their rooms.
So what they did was this company bought like buildings
around the world, like apartment buildings, basically old hotels, and
(06:39):
they would convert them into sort of this digital first experience.
So It's basically an Airbnb, but managed by a company
that had these places across the world, so it was
very clean. It was the standardized you know, check in,
check out, all that kind of stuff, but it was
all done from your smartphone, so you would not actually
have a front desk clerk there. In most cases, you
would just go on your phone. It would give you
(07:00):
a code for the door, you let yourself in, and
you let yourself into your room. So obviously there's cost
savings there. But now a couple of years later, I
find it interesting that they're now linking up with Marriott
because clearly they've had trouble selling these rooms because you've
never heard of them. Most people I've talked to have
not heard of them. But now that they're going to
be available in the Marriott app, it's going to open
up and expand their horizons, which is actually quite smart.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Now, if they had enough money to buy hotel room
or buy hotels and buildings all over the world, you
would think they would have marketing money. I mean, I
pay attention to commercials clearly because we make our living
off of commercials. I have never not only not heard
of it, never seen anything like this that's been advertised.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, yeah, you're not alone. It's literally I've never seen
a word about this company anywhere, and so I think
that was part of the problem, is like who even
knew to book this place? You have to download their
app and book it through there. Now, I will tell
you a couple of things to their advantage the pricing.
Most of the places that they rent are very much
(08:03):
like an apartment style, so it might be like two bedrooms,
three bedrooms, a work area, and the buildings are really nice,
like they renovated them to a really nice way, and
the prices were excellent. But I think again the problem
was you're competing against bohemoths like these would not show
up necessarily in n expedia dot com search. They wouldn't
show up on your Marriott app or your Higight app or
(08:24):
your you know, Hilton app and so or in Airbnb search.
And so I think that, you know, they tried to
go up against Airbnb in their own little way, and
I think that failed. And now they're just kind of joining. Okay,
let's get on Marriott and we'll start these places that way.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So mary I is going to compete against itself or
just as as a market that normally would not be
there at a Maritt hotel to begin with.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That's a good question. I think you're you're right. It's
it's more of like the person that's seeking an Airbnb
style room, so for instance, families or you know, young
digital native kind of workers. You know, they want to
get a place where they can work and also have
like a two bedroom place, maybe share it with friends.
They're searching on Marriott and they're like, oh, that's cool,
this is available. I didn't even know that this was available.
(09:09):
We were going to Nashville. It was like a year
or two ago, and they literally had like a four
bedroom apartment that you could rent and like stay there
with friends and family and then you know, common living
room kind of thing. So it's kind of a market
that Marriott. They just want their hands and everything because
they're a behemoth. And I think that this is a
pretty smart move by them.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, and real quickly, consumer reports and this is about
these companies. They're called what people remover sites where And
I had Anne look me up, just me, and it's
where I lived. All the places I worked at the
one time I got arrested is on there. Even my
(09:50):
interview with the police, saying she looked a lot older
than that. That's not true, by the way, that Neil,
you're just ros man. Yeah, I was all right, rich.
So we have a minute to talk about that. Paying
people or paying companies to get that off the internet.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, this is a huge, huge business. You search, like
you said, you search for yourself, you see your name
on there, and you're like, I don't want that on there,
and then next thing you know, you find yourself one
of these people remover sites. They charge anywhere from twenty
dollars a month to two hundred and fifty bucks a year,
whatever it is, and they try to take your name
off all these sites. The problem is, Consumer Report says
it's not very effective. They try it on thirteen different sites.
(10:34):
The best that performed were what's called easy opt Out.
They were only twenty dollars for the year. So if
you want to try one of these things, that's probably
your best bet. But most of the other ones were really.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Bad at it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And you know, they're just so tough to get your
names out of these sites, because what happens is it's
like whack a mole. You get it out of one
of these sites, and it just pops up again later.
So and that's my question, save your money.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, but you're the information and then you know, all
kidding aside and did go on here's where she goes.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Did you live here? Yes? I did? Did you work here? Yes?
I did?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
How do you How don't they even pretend to get
be able to get rid of that stuff when you
have an internet full of that information?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
They don't, And that's why it's such a good business. So,
I mean, look, they can go and I've done this.
You can go to these websites like the spokios of
the world, the intelli search whatever, and you can do
a manual opt out request and it takes a while,
but it does work. But a lot of times your
information does come up again. So if you really want
an eye opening search, go to this website pentester dot com.
(11:36):
And I'm not kidding. The stuff that they come up
with is unlike anything I've ever seen. I'm talking user
names and passwords of your online account, all the places
you've worked, all the place. I mean, it's it's very
eye opening. And again they're trying to get people to
subscribe and pay to get this stuff taken down, but
it's it's out there and it's a lot of it's
tough to get to get removed.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And what's that again that I'm writing this down?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
The website that is pen tester like pen like a
pencil pen tester T E S T E R. You
pop your email addressed into there, and I'm not kidding.
This stuff it comes up with is just unbelievable, Like
I've never seen such a thorough site before.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
All right? Rich, thank you, We'll catch you this weekend
and of course next Tuesday with Tech Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You have a good one.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Take care, all right, Neil, you didn't think that was funny?
Huh when I made that joke? No, I no, No,
that's true. All right, tell you what, why don't we
move in a different direction. I'm going to spend just
before we are our next segment, the Disneyland segment, which
(12:46):
is always fun to talk about.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I am going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
A couple of images that came out on True Social
and this happens Sunday night, and this is where Donald
Trump shared these images. He reposted and it is a
photo AI generated photo of Taylor Swift and a group
of her followers called Swifties for Trump. Endorsing him, okay,
(13:12):
and he wrote one of the captions, I accept, Well,
that's a problem because she did not endorse Trump. As
a matter of fact, in twenty twenty, she backed Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris and doesn't really enjoy Trump very much.
She accuses him of stoking the fires of white supremacy
and racism. So, needless to say, she is not really
(13:32):
happy that on true Social is an AI generated photo
of her in connection with the Trump campaign. Now, one
of the images in the post actually is legitimate.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There's a woman in a.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
White Swifties for Trump t shirt homemade shirt, by the way,
t shirt, and it is a galley of Jenna Polorazick,
a Polish name, and she is truly someone who is
part of the group of Swifties for Trump. How many
people in there, well, I know of one. And what
(14:10):
is hilarious is if Trump spokesperson Stephen Chung, he's the
guy who releases all the press.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Releases, etc. For the Trump Trump campaign.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He said, Swifties for Trump is a massive movement that
grows bigger every day. And Kamala Harris is guilty of
sin for all the hurt she has caused every American.
Now here is the question, and this was what's going around.
Of course that's ludicrous. Swifties for Trump, and they'll find
a couple of people there. They don't even have T
shirts that they're not homemade. You know, at least get
(14:45):
some tea T shirts printed up. The question is can
Taylor Swift sue Trump for that? There is a professor
at Boston University, Jessica Silbey says, you bet. That fake
endorsement and violates Swift's right to publicity. She has a
right to the publicity of her name, her image, her likeness,
(15:07):
and she controls it, particularly in this case where a
fake endorsement is being put on a platform, in this
case truth social and last month, a bipartisan No Fakes
Act was introduced in the Senate to deal with this.
By the way, ten states, including Tennessee, where she lives,
(15:28):
have already enacted legislation to regulate these deep fakes, which
could give her even more room to sue Trump or
the campaign.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Now I tell you where they got this idea.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
James Walker, in an entertainment attorney, represents the estate of
Isaac Cay', super famous musician brilliant filed a copyright infringement
notice demanding the Trump campaign paid the estate three million
dollars in licensing fees. Why Well, because the campaign is
using Hayes's composition Hold on, I'm coming at the campaign rallies,
(16:05):
and you can't play tunes unless you pay for the
tuons in a commercial setting as well.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
As a campaign.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, now, let's talk about Disney and the reason I'm
bringing up Disney because it is always one of the
favorite topics for Amy. Neil is off and running someplace,
and Amy, here is a story in the.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
New York Times which you're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Come on, and it has to do with a family
that has been going to Disney since twenty fifteen. The
park in Orange County, Florida, and this last time around
was over six thousand dollars for a stay at the
Disney Park. Extra admission for Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party.
(16:55):
That's two hundred dollars per person, one hundred dollars for
the photo survey that the park has that you can download. Also,
they're redoing the fast pass you now pay for it. It's
gotten out of control. You when you go, you don't
feel somewhat ripped off me.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, no, how much would you spend on a vacation.
Let's say you have two weeks and you're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It at Disney what would be At what point do
you go, Nah, I'm not interested.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Assume you're a family of four. Well, we have a
family of four, so I understand. But you know, put
yourself in those shoes.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I don't know if you were going to go, like
to Disney World, I would think you'd spend like ten
thousand dollars for a family of four.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
That's my point.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
There you go, That is my point, And it has
gotten to the point. And by the way, there are
people that I still go. I mean, Disney World eighteen
million people a year ago, disney Land ten million people
a year ago, and the hotels and all of it
is just hugely, hugely profitable.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
The point I'm making is, and this is the point
of this.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The single spot where people will go into debt more
than any other place in terms of vacation are Disney vacations.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
That's because it's the happiest place.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
On earth until you run out of money, until you
realize that you are now broke, and people do I mean,
it's extraordinary where disposable income the first place that is
spent coming back was it Disney, And the place where
people are willing to spend more money and go into debt.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
To spend the money is at Disney. Now.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I happen to like Disney. I'm a fan. I used
to go when actually you could didn't have to stand
in line for four hours, or if you today, unless
you pay for a fast pass, you're not getting in.
It's hours and hours, and it's gotten very, very, very expensive.
And I've shared with you before, it used to be
a bargain Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Granted it wasn't all the rides they have today, but
the original Disneyland when it opened up was still pretty spectacular.
It was one dollar to get in for adults, and
it was that way for two three years. And if
you look at one dollar in nineteen fifty five equivalent
to today, that's exactly eleven dollars seventy four cents. That's
what Disney should cost to get into Disneyland. But not
(19:27):
counting the spectacular rights. You know, they've added a lot
to that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So what's the.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Bottom line, You're going into debt. I'm going into debt
if you go to Disney, Okay, that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I go to Disney and I'm not in debt. Well
there you are, okay, so you handle it well.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But you don't spend two weeks in Disney either, because
I can't afford to do that. All right, I'm taking
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