August 23, 2024 • 26 mins
Vice President Harris accepts democratic nomination and challenges Trump. PG&E is racing to stem increasing California fires ignited by power lines. Evictions from making too many 911 calls happen. The Justice Department wants it to stop. California hospital never notified a woman’s family she died, but she did and way laying in the morgue for a year.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And this is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here
on a Friday morning, August twenty third.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Let's see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh, Robert Kennedy expected today to endorse Donald Trump. And
the deal is a quid pro quo. You give me
a really high position in the administration, I will endorse you.
And it looks like Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Has bought it. Because it looks like Trump has bought it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
All right, So the big news last night, Oh, before
we get to that, just really quickly, the podcast, the
Bill Handles Show podcast is dropping again yesterday. It's Tuesday Thursdays,
and yesterday was crazy memorabilia. The stuff that people pay
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Bill handleshowpodcast dot com for the website. All right now,
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last night, Vice President Harris accepted the Democratic nomination. What
a shocker, and in a well anticipated hugely anticipated speech
and it was the biggest speech.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Of her career. Usually that happens with accepting the nomination.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
She did and did it pretty well, I thought, And
that is do the normal just soaring rhetoric that you
hear from nominees at that point and at the same
time a personal attack on Donald Trump. And that is
going to be the way this campaign is going to go.
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It is going to be a this is hope.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Joy.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Joy is an immense part of the campaign. And then
my question is on the joy part. Did it morph
into joy or was that plan from the beginning, because
as the convention started to keep in mind that she
had already won the nomination, they had voted early virtually
so this was just to I guess, conclude it in
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some way symbolically. But it was described by virtually every
commentator or every news outlet.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It was a party. That's what this was. It was
a party.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And everybody that I was watching was, in fact saying
that the exuberance in the hall, the electricity did you
hear for those of you that watched it or for
those of you that didn't, Every time a speaker would
be there and there was any kind of a phrase,
a short, succinct phrase, the screaming that came from the hall.
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How many people were up there? Twousand people and in
unison they all yelled. One of them, of course, is
Kamala Harris's mantra, right when we fight, we win. And
every time someone says that the whole place just exploded
with that phrase or any phrase that was uttered by
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a speaker, I mean there was real excitement there, real excitement.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Also a quick.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Note, were there more balloons dropped than at any other time.
It may get to the point where the hall is
going to be nothing but balloons twelve feet deep in
the next few elections. But I want to spend a
couple of minutes talking about just some of the takeaways,
because it would take me a very long time to
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go through all of it. She spoke for forty minutes.
She hit on many different points, and I don't want
to hit everyone. But overriding it are two main issues.
One is we're going to be in a better place.
We're doing pretty well now versus the Republicans portraying.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
America as this miserable place.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Where unemployment is rife, illegal aliens have taken your jobs,
Inflation is out of control. Even though it's under three percent,
it's the worst crime we have ever experienced in the country.
Not really, crime is down this year pretty substantially. It's
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going to be that kind of attack. There's two realities here.
There are two realities. One is hope and one is change,
and one is joyfulness. Now Biden's Biden's administration, which she
was part of. She's keeping most of the policy. She's
(04:51):
gonna have to differential state, differential, differential, cell, differentiate, differentiate.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Thank you, Bill oh Peek.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
No, as always, what if people think when I do that,
this clown gets paid for talking and I can do
so much better.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Two things I want to point out to you.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
One you're absolutely right and two you're absolutely right. Now
it's going to differentiate, or try she will differentiate from Biden,
but at the same time, not really. She is simply
going to put it in I think terms that are
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more palatable. Look what we did a lot of it is.
Look how extraordinary the Biden administration was. Look what he
brought to the table, Look what he did, and it
was extraordinary. One of the most successful presidencies in the
history of the United States.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's the way it's being portrayed.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
As far as Donald Trump is portraying her presidency or
the Biden administration as the worst in the history of
this country, the worst economic peril we've ever been, and
far worse than the Great Depression, far worse than the
Great Recession. And you know, for some is that true.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't know. I don't think so. Illegal alien has
not taken my job.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I have yet to meet somebody who says an illegal
migrant has taken my job. I'd like to know anybody
who has had that happen. But that is the premise.
I mean, Trump does go and point to a crowd
of ten, fifteen, twenty thousand people and say, migrants have
taken your jobs. Yep, certainly has a lot of personal
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attacks are going on, a lot of truths are being
undone and on more. Well, I'm going to say on
the Republican side there is more let's just say playing
with the truth, and is the Democrat side.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But that doesn't mean the attacks aren't coming.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'm going to go and deal with some of these
when we come back in terms of what she said,
what she meant, how much of it is real, what
kind of rhetoric? And then Donald Trump's response, We know
how with the kind of personal attacks, the only issue
is how they're going to sign, how they're going to
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how they're going to come off. What are they what's
he going to signal? One of them was great last
night in the middle of it, and she talked about
coach Walls, right, and he tweeted he was no coach,
he was an assistant coach. Don't call him a coach.
That was a Donald Trump tweet.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
The Republicans should stop using they take your jobs and
start using they take your down payments for home loans,
because that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Now in California, we don't know how many people are
not going to get those home loans. And I'd love
to see the attack on they're giving illegal aliens home loans.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That is a legitimate attack.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Kamala Harris accepts the Democratic nomination and a speech that
went almost forty minutes, and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
To give her pretty good grades.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
She's no Tim Walls. I'll tell you that she's no Oprah.
But she did come off as well as I've ever
seen her. And she was able to do two hits,
and that is describe what she is going to do
while and talk about I think almost play a separate
part than Joe Biden, when in fact she's probably going
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to simply maintain the Joe Biden agenda, but she's going
to paint it in I think, a different light. It's
almost like Pope Francis, who in fact is as conservative
as any other pope has been, but he paints it
in a very different light. And I think that where
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Harris went. Now, what she did is spend an enormous
amount of time talking about the future, talking about hope,
and then the theme is going to be joy that
the Democrats are bringing this campaign versus what Donald Trump
is bringing. And that's a cynical It couldn't be worse.
Life is terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I connect with that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Do you know that even though I'm not a big
fan of Donald Trump, and I think the personal attacks
I think are and I just don't like the outright lies.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I mean, just straight out lies.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's a big difference in that, as I said earlier,
the worst economic point we've ever been in the history
of the United States.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
See really, by that.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
She gets elected, it's guaranteed World War three will start.
You really get that, I mean, you know that's a
little bit far. I really believe that, and so I
do believe that the Republican campaign is going to be
absolutely personal and portraying this apocalyptic view of what America
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is going to be if it turns out that the
Democrats win. On the other side, she portrays a person
who has no guardrails, who thinks more of himself than
he does of the country.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Usually people are owed by the presidency. Virtually every president
I have seen in my lifetime is totally awed by
the presidency. Donald Trump is not. He is owed by
Donald Trump. That I guarantee you is the truth. And
you know, it's interesting. He is a guy who has
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been able to pull off being insanely wealthy yet at
the same time a populist. By the way, it's not
the only person who's ever done this, if you notice
last night and certainly Walls and Harrow has talked about
their middle class upbringing. I'm one of you. We are
in it together. I grew up in a middle class home.
My parents gave me everything I needed. My parents made
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me the person I was. You don't hear that from
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
What you hear is make America great again. And I'm
going to do it. And by the way, he's not
alone in doing that, being a very wealthy guy and
connecting with the people on a populist level.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You know who did that.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
More than any other president in the history of the
United States, Franklin Roosevelt. Franklin Roosevelt, who created social Security
and kept this country going through the depression. A lot
of people argue that he really didn't do much and
all he did was start a socialist government. Well, in reality,
people were starving by the millions. And I don't care
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what anybody says about Franklin Roosevelt.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
He literally kept.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Millions and millions of people from starving through governmental programs
which prior to that Republican administrations A La Hoover simply
didn't do.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And so here he is for the little guy, which
he was.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And Roosevelt had a ton of money and it didn't
seem to bother people. The same time Trump comes from
a ton of money. He is a billionaire. He started rich,
and he made himself even richer with his real estate empire.
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And no one seems, certainly on the Republican side, no
one seems to resent it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
As a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I think they even admire it on some level, is
that he is so wealthy and he did it by
fighting the man.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And I'm going to fight the man for you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Why because it's a deep state, because it's the intelligence
community is there, They're traders, and it's very weird. The
realities here are very strange. So what you saw is
at one point, how great America is going to be,
how she is going to.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Basically bring the same.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Sort of the same philosophy and the same programs as
Joe Biden's going to continue with Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
At the same time, there was no hope with Joe Biden.
There wasn't.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
The convention would have been a very different animal had
Joe Biden stood up there and accepted the nomination.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It was a lot of depressed a lot of depressed
people who.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Reluctantly are forced to vote for Joe Biden because they
won't vote for Donald Trump. And now that has changed.
Now it's joy and it really is. You can see
it at the convention. I mean, she has been able
to electrify, she's been able to ignite the Democratic Party.
Now we get to see is it a honeymoon that
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then is going to.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Numbers are going to be lowered and.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's going to be much much more of a wipeout
that was certainly the case when it was Joe Biden.
Or is she going to continue with her numbers going up?
Tell you one thing, at this point, the Republicans are
sweating bullets.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
There is no question about that.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They are, really, particularly Donald Trump. He has argued that
Joe Biden should be in the race, not Kamala Harris.
It is unconstitutional for her for him not to be
the nominee, and a coup took place. I mean, throwing
a lot of stuff out there, as if a nominee
can't just say I don't want to run because I'm
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going to lose, so I can't wait. This is just
the start and it's going to be fascinating from now
until the election in November. This is the time when
it's good to have this job. You know, there are
times when it's not, and there are times when it's great.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Time is going to be great, all right. The other
thing that's going on I want to share with you
PG and E.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And the fires that have occurred because of what PG
and E did or more importantly didn't do.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I when forest fires or wildfires.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Were being reported more and more. I didn't really blame
the utilities that much. I always thought that it was
ignited by someone and the utilities. You know, those power
lines going down really didn't do it. Those power lines
going down really did do it. PG and E has
reported to state regulators sixty two agnitions in high fire
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areas so far this year, sixty five for the entirety
of twenty twenty three already sixty two. Twenty nine of
them occurred just the last few weeks the heat wave
in July. So what is going on? Well, PG and
E is, first of all, they got nailed, I mean
nailed after the campfire. For example, they settle for twenty
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five billion dollars. Also had to file for bankruptcy. I
mean there was no way they were going to just
accept all those lawsuits or deal with them. So they
had to go to bankruptcy court to figure out what
to do and hold off all of the settlements or
at least the lawsuits going forward until the settlements were reached.
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And so they've now been looking at what they can do.
One of the things that you would think they would
do is clean up all of the brush and the
ignitable fuel that's around these power poles, because in case
there is a good healthy win down the lines go
ignite fires.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You know what, they're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Why well, because they have one hundred and fifty thousand
of them to do. Oh no, actually one hundred and
ninety thousand of them to do, So that art is
sort of being set aside. What they're doing is relying
more heavily on new power line settings at areas that
are at high risk of fire. And what they do
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these are sensors where the electric line shuts off within
a tenth of a second when any of the power
lines touch anything. Be it a bird that somehow connects
two power lines. And you've seen a lot of birds
on power lines. It's fine if they're on a single
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power line. Not so fine when somehow through the bird,
two power lines touch and the electricity is conducted.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Now, to be fair, that's pretty entertaining.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
To see a bird get fried, they actually get vaporized,
and always see his feather feathers flying around. But the
danger is so extraordinary that a fire can ignite, and
look at what happens with all of a sudden in
a matter of and We've heard Amy report on this,
We've heard this on national news. A fire can start
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and then double in a matter of hours, and you
just never know when.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
It's going to happen. So there, we're not gonna be
able to stop arsonists.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We're not going to be able to stop fires ignited
by lightning, although that's pretty rare, but something can be Well,
you can arrest arsenists, but you know, what do you
do about arsenists other.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Than arrest them?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But what can be done is lower the risk of
fires by power lines, and that seems to be the
majority of fires that occur in wooded areas, and so
they're doing everything they can. They have to because the
liability is so insane. The reason PG and E is
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the big news is because it is the largest utility
that we have in California, seventy thousand square miles. They
cover in northern central California, and so there's a lot
of work they have to do and it's going reasonably well.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The reality is if you are even in high risk areas,
and this is like the recall of the air bags,
since you have so many to do, what do you
do about the ones that are not being able to
be fixed for years. If you're talking about with for example,
(19:30):
in the airbag millions had to be recalled. Okay, if
you're number one, or two or five, it's going to
happen very quickly.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
What happens if you're number three million?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And that's the case going on, which is a lot
of reason why they changed how they deal with the
fires ignited about power lines. First of all, the years
it would take, the extraordinary effort and the money that
would be spent, and they're saying, it's better off. We're
better off, they're better off dealing with these sensors, grabbing
them early. And if you're going to clean vegetation, which
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they're going to in the high high risk areas as
opposed to every place else.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Okay, a quick word about lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
One of the things that is fun, and this was
a law school where I really enjoyed this stuff, is
the history of something called emotional distress, right, either negligent
or intentional emotional distress. Now, historically you had to be
hurt to also have an emotional distress lawsuit. Going emotional distresses,
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you're not hurt, it's just the emotions, and the law
said you had to actually be hurt before you could
file for emotional distress. Okay, now that changed a bit,
and for example, mothers seeing their kids run over. All right,
mother wasn't hurt, but you know, that sort of reached
the level where emotional distress flew. Another one that's really neat,
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which is almost universe, is when families are dealing with
dead people. There are some cases that I remember, for example,
on the way to the grave site and the pallbearers
are bringing the coffin and Uncle Murray falls out the
bottom of the coffin and then starts rolling, and people
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were there, the family members were there. There was a
lawsuit for emotional distress. Okay, fair enough, and now it's
more sort of accepted. But this is here's why it's
going to go. This is about as family oriented emotional
distress as it exists.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Jesse Peterson is thirty one years old.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
She is a Type one diabetic and has a diabetic
She has a seizure. She came in she had some
kind of an episode, so she calls nine to one one.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
She gets to the hospital. Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And the family doesn't know this and they start looking
for her file a missing person's where the hell she?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Where is she?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So they said that they found out that she went
to the hospital. The hospital never notified them that she
had died at the hospital. They were led to believe
that she had checked out of the hospital on her
own against medical advice. Well it turns out she didn't
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and they were told she checked out. So they're now
doing the search. And I mean they're doing the search
with posters and calling the police, and they're on the internet,
and they're telling friends and they have strangers looking for them.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Okay, here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
She had called her mom, asked her to pick her
up from the hospital when she felt better, and she
comes to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Nope, she's checked out. Oh my god. And then they
can't find her.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
So it turns out that she had died at the hospital,
and the hospital telling mom and dad that she checked out.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
It turned out that she hadn't checked out.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It turned out she had died that day, and they
parked her in the morgue, and a death certificate, which
has to be issued immediately upon the death of someone
in the hospital, wasn't issued until a year later, when
they discovered that she was camped in the morgue and
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the family finally found out about it, and here comes
a lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Asking for twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Now, when I started this segment, I told you about
lawsuits for emotional distress, right, dealing with for the most part,
family members and death, Uncle Murray falling out of the
bottom of the casket and rolling along in front of everybody.
Big big settlements, moms getting seeing their children interviewed, seeing
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their children injured, Big big settlements.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
And I think is going to.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Be added to the law school curriculum and cases of.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Negligent infliction of emotional distress.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
This one hospital saying, yeah, your daughter left, she checked out.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
In fact, she died.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And by the way, it isn't until a year later
the hospital lets the information out she.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Fell through the cracks.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So the lawsuit, of course is for intentional or is
for emotional distress. Now they're not only asking for compensatory
that is the suffering that the family has undergone, which
there no one's going to argue that deadn't happen, But
they're also asking for punies, punitive damages, saying the hospital
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was so reckless that it's almost they intended to do this.
It was so insanely negligent, that punitive payment should be
made gonna happen. But the compensatory, the infliction of emotional distress.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's going to fly. Hey Bill on that one.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If you say they knowingly said that she left when
they don't have the paperwork, when it wasn't done properly,
you couldn't get punitive damages.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah you might, but there but you're gonna have to prove.
I mean, intent is not.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Say say we lost her.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We can't find that's and that's what they're going to say.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
She checked out, right, she fell through the cracks. Someone
thought she checked out.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Maybe the record said we don't know enough about this,
but uh, it's I don't think punies are gonna fly.
They might, I don't know. In front of a jury,
I mean, you never know what's going to happen. This
is not going to be a bench trial. First of all,
it's going to settle. I mean, there's no way that
the hospital is going to defend itself in a lawsuit.
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I mean, can you imagine what a jury's going to
do under these circumstances. By the way, the hospital, when
asked for a comment, said, quote, we extend our deepest
sympathies to the family during this difficult time.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
We're unable to comment on pending litigation.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And by the way, that's not them just being obnoxious
about it. No lawyer in the world is going to
let a client talk about something on a lawsuit on
this level. All right, This is kf I Am six
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And this is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here
on a Friday morning, August twenty third.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Let's see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh, Robert Kennedy expected today to endorse Donald Trump. And
the deal is a quid pro quo. You give me
a really high position in the administration, I will endorse you.
And it looks like Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Has bought it. Because it looks like Trump has bought it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
All right, So the big news last night, Oh, before
we get to that, just really quickly, the podcast, the
Bill Handles Show podcast is dropping again yesterday. It's Tuesday Thursdays,
and yesterday was crazy memorabilia. The stuff that people pay
for and what they sell is just completely insane, that is.
(00:53):
And you can hear it on Spotify. iHeart iHeart app
radio app. Also I'm trying to think of all the
platforms Apple. In any case, it's Tuesdays and Thursdays, the
Bill Handle Show podcast. You can also go to the
Bill handleshowpodcast dot com for the website. All right now,
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last night, Vice President Harris accepted the Democratic nomination. What
a shocker, and in a well anticipated hugely anticipated speech
and it was the biggest speech.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Of her career. Usually that happens with accepting the nomination.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
She did and did it pretty well, I thought, And
that is do the normal just soaring rhetoric that you
hear from nominees at that point and at the same
time a personal attack on Donald Trump. And that is
going to be the way this campaign is going to go.
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It is going to be a this is hope.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Joy.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Joy is an immense part of the campaign. And then
my question is on the joy part. Did it morph
into joy or was that plan from the beginning, because
as the convention started to keep in mind that she
had already won the nomination, they had voted early virtually
so this was just to I guess, conclude it in
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some way symbolically. But it was described by virtually every
commentator or every news outlet.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It was a party. That's what this was. It was
a party.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And everybody that I was watching was, in fact saying
that the exuberance in the hall, the electricity did you
hear for those of you that watched it or for
those of you that didn't, Every time a speaker would
be there and there was any kind of a phrase,
a short, succinct phrase, the screaming that came from the hall.
(02:58):
How many people were up there? Twousand people and in
unison they all yelled. One of them, of course, is
Kamala Harris's mantra, right when we fight, we win. And
every time someone says that the whole place just exploded
with that phrase or any phrase that was uttered by
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a speaker, I mean there was real excitement there, real excitement.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Also a quick.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Note, were there more balloons dropped than at any other time.
It may get to the point where the hall is
going to be nothing but balloons twelve feet deep in
the next few elections. But I want to spend a
couple of minutes talking about just some of the takeaways,
because it would take me a very long time to
(03:44):
go through all of it. She spoke for forty minutes.
She hit on many different points, and I don't want
to hit everyone. But overriding it are two main issues.
One is we're going to be in a better place.
We're doing pretty well now versus the Republicans portraying.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
America as this miserable place.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Where unemployment is rife, illegal aliens have taken your jobs,
Inflation is out of control. Even though it's under three percent,
it's the worst crime we have ever experienced in the country.
Not really, crime is down this year pretty substantially. It's
(04:30):
going to be that kind of attack. There's two realities here.
There are two realities. One is hope and one is change,
and one is joyfulness. Now Biden's Biden's administration, which she
was part of. She's keeping most of the policy. She's
(04:51):
gonna have to differential state, differential, differential, cell, differentiate, differentiate.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Thank you, Bill oh Peek.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
No, as always, what if people think when I do that,
this clown gets paid for talking and I can do
so much better.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Two things I want to point out to you.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
One you're absolutely right and two you're absolutely right. Now
it's going to differentiate, or try she will differentiate from Biden,
but at the same time, not really. She is simply
going to put it in I think terms that are
(05:32):
more palatable. Look what we did a lot of it is.
Look how extraordinary the Biden administration was. Look what he
brought to the table, Look what he did, and it
was extraordinary. One of the most successful presidencies in the
history of the United States.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's the way it's being portrayed.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
As far as Donald Trump is portraying her presidency or
the Biden administration as the worst in the history of
this country, the worst economic peril we've ever been, and
far worse than the Great Depression, far worse than the
Great Recession. And you know, for some is that true.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't know. I don't think so. Illegal alien has
not taken my job.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I have yet to meet somebody who says an illegal
migrant has taken my job. I'd like to know anybody
who has had that happen. But that is the premise.
I mean, Trump does go and point to a crowd
of ten, fifteen, twenty thousand people and say, migrants have
taken your jobs. Yep, certainly has a lot of personal
(06:41):
attacks are going on, a lot of truths are being
undone and on more. Well, I'm going to say on
the Republican side there is more let's just say playing
with the truth, and is the Democrat side.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But that doesn't mean the attacks aren't coming.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'm going to go and deal with some of these
when we come back in terms of what she said,
what she meant, how much of it is real, what
kind of rhetoric? And then Donald Trump's response, We know
how with the kind of personal attacks, the only issue
is how they're going to sign, how they're going to
(07:19):
how they're going to come off. What are they what's
he going to signal? One of them was great last
night in the middle of it, and she talked about
coach Walls, right, and he tweeted he was no coach,
he was an assistant coach. Don't call him a coach.
That was a Donald Trump tweet.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
The Republicans should stop using they take your jobs and
start using they take your down payments for home loans,
because that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Now in California, we don't know how many people are
not going to get those home loans. And I'd love
to see the attack on they're giving illegal aliens home loans.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That is a legitimate attack.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Kamala Harris accepts the Democratic nomination and a speech that
went almost forty minutes, and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
To give her pretty good grades.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
She's no Tim Walls. I'll tell you that she's no Oprah.
But she did come off as well as I've ever
seen her. And she was able to do two hits,
and that is describe what she is going to do
while and talk about I think almost play a separate
part than Joe Biden, when in fact she's probably going
(08:40):
to simply maintain the Joe Biden agenda, but she's going
to paint it in I think, a different light. It's
almost like Pope Francis, who in fact is as conservative
as any other pope has been, but he paints it
in a very different light. And I think that where
(09:00):
Harris went. Now, what she did is spend an enormous
amount of time talking about the future, talking about hope,
and then the theme is going to be joy that
the Democrats are bringing this campaign versus what Donald Trump
is bringing. And that's a cynical It couldn't be worse.
Life is terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I connect with that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Do you know that even though I'm not a big
fan of Donald Trump, and I think the personal attacks
I think are and I just don't like the outright lies.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I mean, just straight out lies.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's a big difference in that, as I said earlier,
the worst economic point we've ever been in the history
of the United States.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
See really, by that.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
She gets elected, it's guaranteed World War three will start.
You really get that, I mean, you know that's a
little bit far. I really believe that, and so I
do believe that the Republican campaign is going to be
absolutely personal and portraying this apocalyptic view of what America
(10:09):
is going to be if it turns out that the
Democrats win. On the other side, she portrays a person
who has no guardrails, who thinks more of himself than
he does of the country.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Usually people are owed by the presidency. Virtually every president
I have seen in my lifetime is totally awed by
the presidency. Donald Trump is not. He is owed by
Donald Trump. That I guarantee you is the truth. And
you know, it's interesting. He is a guy who has
(10:47):
been able to pull off being insanely wealthy yet at
the same time a populist. By the way, it's not
the only person who's ever done this, if you notice
last night and certainly Walls and Harrow has talked about
their middle class upbringing. I'm one of you. We are
in it together. I grew up in a middle class home.
My parents gave me everything I needed. My parents made
(11:11):
me the person I was. You don't hear that from
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
What you hear is make America great again. And I'm
going to do it. And by the way, he's not
alone in doing that, being a very wealthy guy and
connecting with the people on a populist level.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You know who did that.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
More than any other president in the history of the
United States, Franklin Roosevelt. Franklin Roosevelt, who created social Security
and kept this country going through the depression. A lot
of people argue that he really didn't do much and
all he did was start a socialist government. Well, in reality,
people were starving by the millions. And I don't care
(11:50):
what anybody says about Franklin Roosevelt.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
He literally kept.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Millions and millions of people from starving through governmental programs
which prior to that Republican administrations A La Hoover simply
didn't do.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And so here he is for the little guy, which
he was.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And Roosevelt had a ton of money and it didn't
seem to bother people. The same time Trump comes from
a ton of money. He is a billionaire. He started rich,
and he made himself even richer with his real estate empire.
(12:29):
And no one seems, certainly on the Republican side, no
one seems to resent it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
As a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I think they even admire it on some level, is
that he is so wealthy and he did it by
fighting the man.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And I'm going to fight the man for you.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Why because it's a deep state, because it's the intelligence
community is there, They're traders, and it's very weird. The
realities here are very strange. So what you saw is
at one point, how great America is going to be,
how she is going to.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Basically bring the same.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Sort of the same philosophy and the same programs as
Joe Biden's going to continue with Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
At the same time, there was no hope with Joe Biden.
There wasn't.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
The convention would have been a very different animal had
Joe Biden stood up there and accepted the nomination.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It was a lot of depressed a lot of depressed
people who.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Reluctantly are forced to vote for Joe Biden because they
won't vote for Donald Trump. And now that has changed.
Now it's joy and it really is. You can see
it at the convention. I mean, she has been able
to electrify, she's been able to ignite the Democratic Party.
Now we get to see is it a honeymoon that
(13:56):
then is going to.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Numbers are going to be lowered and.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's going to be much much more of a wipeout
that was certainly the case when it was Joe Biden.
Or is she going to continue with her numbers going up?
Tell you one thing, at this point, the Republicans are
sweating bullets.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
There is no question about that.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They are, really, particularly Donald Trump. He has argued that
Joe Biden should be in the race, not Kamala Harris.
It is unconstitutional for her for him not to be
the nominee, and a coup took place. I mean, throwing
a lot of stuff out there, as if a nominee
can't just say I don't want to run because I'm
(14:42):
going to lose, so I can't wait. This is just
the start and it's going to be fascinating from now
until the election in November. This is the time when
it's good to have this job. You know, there are
times when it's not, and there are times when it's great.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Time is going to be great, all right. The other
thing that's going on I want to share with you
PG and E.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And the fires that have occurred because of what PG
and E did or more importantly didn't do.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I when forest fires or wildfires.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Were being reported more and more. I didn't really blame
the utilities that much. I always thought that it was
ignited by someone and the utilities. You know, those power
lines going down really didn't do it. Those power lines
going down really did do it. PG and E has
reported to state regulators sixty two agnitions in high fire
(15:42):
areas so far this year, sixty five for the entirety
of twenty twenty three already sixty two. Twenty nine of
them occurred just the last few weeks the heat wave
in July. So what is going on? Well, PG and
E is, first of all, they got nailed, I mean
nailed after the campfire. For example, they settle for twenty
(16:03):
five billion dollars. Also had to file for bankruptcy. I
mean there was no way they were going to just
accept all those lawsuits or deal with them. So they
had to go to bankruptcy court to figure out what
to do and hold off all of the settlements or
at least the lawsuits going forward until the settlements were reached.
(16:23):
And so they've now been looking at what they can do.
One of the things that you would think they would
do is clean up all of the brush and the
ignitable fuel that's around these power poles, because in case
there is a good healthy win down the lines go
ignite fires.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You know what, they're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Why well, because they have one hundred and fifty thousand
of them to do. Oh no, actually one hundred and
ninety thousand of them to do, So that art is
sort of being set aside. What they're doing is relying
more heavily on new power line settings at areas that
are at high risk of fire. And what they do
(17:12):
these are sensors where the electric line shuts off within
a tenth of a second when any of the power
lines touch anything. Be it a bird that somehow connects
two power lines. And you've seen a lot of birds
on power lines. It's fine if they're on a single
(17:34):
power line. Not so fine when somehow through the bird,
two power lines touch and the electricity is conducted.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Now, to be fair, that's pretty entertaining.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
To see a bird get fried, they actually get vaporized,
and always see his feather feathers flying around. But the
danger is so extraordinary that a fire can ignite, and
look at what happens with all of a sudden in
a matter of and We've heard Amy report on this,
We've heard this on national news. A fire can start
(18:07):
and then double in a matter of hours, and you
just never know when.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
It's going to happen. So there, we're not gonna be
able to stop arsonists.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We're not going to be able to stop fires ignited
by lightning, although that's pretty rare, but something can be Well,
you can arrest arsenists, but you know, what do you
do about arsenists other.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Than arrest them?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
But what can be done is lower the risk of
fires by power lines, and that seems to be the
majority of fires that occur in wooded areas, and so
they're doing everything they can. They have to because the
liability is so insane. The reason PG and E is
(18:50):
the big news is because it is the largest utility
that we have in California, seventy thousand square miles. They
cover in northern central California, and so there's a lot
of work they have to do and it's going reasonably well.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The reality is if you are even in high risk areas,
and this is like the recall of the air bags,
since you have so many to do, what do you
do about the ones that are not being able to
be fixed for years. If you're talking about with for example,
(19:30):
in the airbag millions had to be recalled. Okay, if
you're number one, or two or five, it's going to
happen very quickly.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
What happens if you're number three million?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And that's the case going on, which is a lot
of reason why they changed how they deal with the
fires ignited about power lines. First of all, the years
it would take, the extraordinary effort and the money that
would be spent, and they're saying, it's better off. We're
better off, they're better off dealing with these sensors, grabbing
them early. And if you're going to clean vegetation, which
(20:03):
they're going to in the high high risk areas as
opposed to every place else.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Okay, a quick word about lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
One of the things that is fun, and this was
a law school where I really enjoyed this stuff, is
the history of something called emotional distress, right, either negligent
or intentional emotional distress. Now, historically you had to be
hurt to also have an emotional distress lawsuit. Going emotional distresses,
(20:35):
you're not hurt, it's just the emotions, and the law
said you had to actually be hurt before you could
file for emotional distress. Okay, now that changed a bit,
and for example, mothers seeing their kids run over. All right,
mother wasn't hurt, but you know, that sort of reached
the level where emotional distress flew. Another one that's really neat,
(20:58):
which is almost universe, is when families are dealing with
dead people. There are some cases that I remember, for example,
on the way to the grave site and the pallbearers
are bringing the coffin and Uncle Murray falls out the
bottom of the coffin and then starts rolling, and people
(21:18):
were there, the family members were there. There was a
lawsuit for emotional distress. Okay, fair enough, and now it's
more sort of accepted. But this is here's why it's
going to go. This is about as family oriented emotional
distress as it exists.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Jesse Peterson is thirty one years old.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
She is a Type one diabetic and has a diabetic
She has a seizure. She came in she had some
kind of an episode, so she calls nine to one one.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
She gets to the hospital. Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
And the family doesn't know this and they start looking
for her file a missing person's where the hell she?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Where is she?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So they said that they found out that she went
to the hospital. The hospital never notified them that she
had died at the hospital. They were led to believe
that she had checked out of the hospital on her
own against medical advice. Well it turns out she didn't
(22:25):
and they were told she checked out. So they're now
doing the search. And I mean they're doing the search
with posters and calling the police, and they're on the internet,
and they're telling friends and they have strangers looking for them.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Okay, here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
She had called her mom, asked her to pick her
up from the hospital when she felt better, and she
comes to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Nope, she's checked out. Oh my god. And then they
can't find her.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
So it turns out that she had died at the hospital,
and the hospital telling mom and dad that she checked out.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
It turned out that she hadn't checked out.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It turned out she had died that day, and they
parked her in the morgue, and a death certificate, which
has to be issued immediately upon the death of someone
in the hospital, wasn't issued until a year later, when
they discovered that she was camped in the morgue and
(23:29):
the family finally found out about it, and here comes
a lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Asking for twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Now, when I started this segment, I told you about
lawsuits for emotional distress, right, dealing with for the most part,
family members and death, Uncle Murray falling out of the
bottom of the casket and rolling along in front of everybody.
Big big settlements, moms getting seeing their children interviewed, seeing
(24:00):
their children injured, Big big settlements.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
And I think is going to.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Be added to the law school curriculum and cases of.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Negligent infliction of emotional distress.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
This one hospital saying, yeah, your daughter left, she checked out.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
In fact, she died.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And by the way, it isn't until a year later
the hospital lets the information out she.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Fell through the cracks.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So the lawsuit, of course is for intentional or is
for emotional distress. Now they're not only asking for compensatory
that is the suffering that the family has undergone, which
there no one's going to argue that deadn't happen, But
they're also asking for punies, punitive damages, saying the hospital
(24:49):
was so reckless that it's almost they intended to do this.
It was so insanely negligent, that punitive payment should be
made gonna happen. But the compensatory, the infliction of emotional distress.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's going to fly. Hey Bill on that one.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If you say they knowingly said that she left when
they don't have the paperwork, when it wasn't done properly,
you couldn't get punitive damages.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah you might, but there but you're gonna have to prove.
I mean, intent is not.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Say say we lost her.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We can't find that's and that's what they're going to say.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
She checked out, right, she fell through the cracks. Someone
thought she checked out.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Maybe the record said we don't know enough about this,
but uh, it's I don't think punies are gonna fly.
They might, I don't know. In front of a jury,
I mean, you never know what's going to happen. This
is not going to be a bench trial. First of all,
it's going to settle. I mean, there's no way that
the hospital is going to defend itself in a lawsuit.
(25:56):
I mean, can you imagine what a jury's going to
do under these circumstances. By the way, the hospital, when
asked for a comment, said, quote, we extend our deepest
sympathies to the family during this difficult time.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
We're unable to comment on pending litigation.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And by the way, that's not them just being obnoxious
about it. No lawyer in the world is going to
let a client talk about something on a lawsuit on
this level. All right, This is kf I Am six
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