August 28, 2024 • 25 mins
Initiative aims to boost wildlife crossings across California. The rise of the $1000-a-night hotel room. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about mosquitos spreading diseases and best practices to protect yourself, Zepbound reducing their prices, and the FDA approving gel designed to stop major bleeding on contact.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And this is KFI Bill Handle here on Homeday, Wednesday,
August twenty eight. Well, Kamala Harris has officially agreed to
a sit down interview with CNN, but she will not
do a sit down without Tim Walls at her side.
(00:26):
And so I can already tell you what that interview
is going to be. Vice President Harris, what's your view
on And she will say, well, Tim, why don't you
answer that question? But Vice President Harris, we want your
view on this, Tim, why don't you tell them my
(00:47):
view on this? I have never seen or heard of
a candidate bringing on a co candidate, in this case,
the vice president candidate to answer the questions in an
interview when he wasn't even asked to be on the interview.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I mean, it's going to be fascinating. I got to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
People are starting to think, hang on a minute, the
same good. You know, there's a little dissension in the
Democratic Party as to what's going on with her and
press conferences and interviews, etc.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, Now, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
If you've been on the one to one freeway up
near Calabasas. North of Calabasas there is that passage safe
passage area. It's a couple hundred feet or one hundred
yards wide, and it goes over the freeway and it
is for animals, particularly mountain lions. Is the big one
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here to go from the Santa Monica Mountains over on
the overpass into the.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Northern area north of the freeway.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And that's because it's a natural habitat and right in
the middle as the cougars or the mountain lions go,
there happens to be a freeway in the way, and
they tend to get run over. And so what ended
up happening is a ton of money was raised. It's
ninety two million dollars and it is the Edinburg Wildlife Crossing,
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biggest one in the world. Now what is First of all,
it's kind of neat, although it can be argued ninety
two million dollars can feed a lot of kids and
can help a lot of people with homes. But then again,
you know everybody has their own charity. This is well,
I would argue it is a charity, but is also
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a concerted effort effort among environmentalists, among animal lovers and
even folks that are looking at the southern California mountain
lion is endangered, and I think it is endangered, and
too many of them have.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Been run over.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Also, the separation, for the most part has a real
genetic influence on the ones that are left that have
not gone across the freeway, and so there's all kinds
of problems going on. So what makes the story so
interesting is not only when does that open up. I
don't even know it's going to open up. In a
couple of months, next year, it's going to open up.
I mean, I've been building. If you go past it,
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it's kind of neat to see what they've done, and
they'll see the vegetation, and we're certainly.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But what's making this happen so quickly is a combination
of the state money, local money, private money, non governmental
organizations NGOs involved, as well as straight out grants, philanthropic grants.
Put all that together, this happens real quickly. Not that
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it isn't or shouldn't be happening in other jurisdictions, because
there's a lot of places now around the country where
this idea is really gaining big initiatives.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And by the way, that happens to you know where
all the press came from. Do you remember P. Twenty two?
Do you remember that P. Twenty two?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And originally I thought P. Twenty two was a pet
boat that was in World War Two. That's not true. P.
Twenty two was a mountain lion who had been hit
by a car, had all kinds of problems. I got
hit on the one on one and that sort of turboat.
Everything that got everybody excited as.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think they should be. And it's not just the
mountain lions.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I mean, we're talking about moves that are going on
around the country. It's Florida has one. Matter of fact,
the model is after Florida. But we're talking about other animals,
and it just doesn't stop with the other animals.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
For example, the duel the mule deer.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Hmm, that's a big one in California too, So let's
build a crossing for that because it goes across the road.
And then the one that I think is the most important,
the Yosemite oad the crossing a Tioga pass because so
many of those toes get run over.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Now you know how you well at night when you
can't see the toad.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You get both the squish sound as well as the
croaking all simultaneously, so you know we've run over the toad.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Now I got a question.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I can see the pubas I can see that, I
really can. Those are magnificent creatures. Do I really care
about a toad?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The kangaroo rat and sand Bernardino, I don't know. Although
they're saving the habitat by charging developers a per square
foot charge, if you're building in Riverside for.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The kangaroo, it's the kangaroo rat tax for real. And
so I don't know. Remember this the what is it?
The dart? What was the California dart? What was that fish?
The I forgot the name of it, the little tiny
fish that was smelt. No, not the delta smelt. That's
another one. It's the god.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
People are screaming now this little fish and dart is
in its name, and I my mind slipped my mind
with the rest of the name is anyway, this was
a little tiny fish that was indigenous to northern California,
and it was only one river and they were damming.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Up the river.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Lawsuits were filed and it halted a dam. It halted
a full dam. Hundreds of millions dollars went into that dam.
It was state construction stopped cold because it was going
to I guess eradicate this little tiny fish because it
was only in one tributary that flowed in and it
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was going to kill the fish. And then so that
it's okay, the dam is stopped. Hundreds of millions dollars lost.
And then a few years later, in a little creek
a few miles away, some hikers found this little tributary
where there's the where there were so many of these
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fish they couldn't walk across, they'd be stepping on them.
So you know, at what point, you know, do we
really want the California smelt. Yeah, it's kind of neat,
but it's not a cougar. See, it's like a koala bear.
We love koala bears. We're gonna save them no matter what.
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Enough of that that almost made sense. This next topic
next SEC might want to do.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Particularly for those of you that are either living in
a tent or living in a dumpster, because you're really
going to appreciate this topic. I guarantee you we'll be back.
Amy Snail darter.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's it. The snail darter got it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Also good news in the Kamas war with Israel, Israel
was able to rescue one of the hostages from underneath
the surface in one of the tunnels that Hamas doesn't have. Now,
this is for those of you that are either living
in a tent or living in a dumpster because frankly,
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you don't have enough money for housing. So this is
about travelers who travel vacation and are paying north of
one thousand dollars a night for a hotel room. It
is the rise of the thousand dollars a night hotel rooms. Now,
come on, guys, really, well, here's what's going on. When
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it comes to our economy. Things have gotten very expensive.
As we know, inflation, even though it is totally under
control now, did hit nine percent. And that's one of
the political issues that Donald Trump legitimately has against the
Biden administration. Not now, but certainly what happened and people
(09:05):
pinching pennies food, got expensive cars, got expensive housing. But
here's the other side of that one. People who are
wealthy don't care. They did just fine because look at
the investments, look at the stock portfolio. People who are
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wealthy have money, and inflation really didn't help hurt them.
And after the pandemic, there was this pent up demand
for travel. And so there is that strata, that upper
strata of hotels that you stay at and it's a
thousand bucks a night to start. And what makes this story,
(09:54):
I think so interesting, is that the number of these
hotels that have gone up in some cases in some
places have literally doubled and the totals. And this is
a company called co Star, it's a real estate analytics
and data firm. The number in the US that are
thousand dollars night state as a minimum doubled last year.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
In Europe it tripled last year.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And they're saying the totals are even higher because a
lot of luxury, smaller luxury hotels, these little boutique hotels
and small chains, don't share this data with this company,
with this group called Costar, which actually analyzes data. How
about the United States? Hotels in Miami particularly pricey even
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in the middle of summer where it is hot, it
is humid, and if you're talking about the quote festive season, well, okay,
December twenty third to twenty six, probably one of the
most expensive places or times in the country. You go
to the Four Seasons Miami Surf Side and you look
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up the room. The cheapest one is twenty four hundred
dollars a night, and that's up from eighteen hundred dollars
a night in November of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Rates are completely crazy. It is nuts.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
By the way, if you go to the Four Seasons,
they'll tell you, you know what, you can't afford it.
You bitch and complain, I really can't afford it. The
Four Seasons will tell you the Boca Raton is only
six hundred dollars a night, and that's the inexpensive budget hotel.
So the wealth effect is alive and well, the national
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director of Hospitality Analytics for co Star and what else
is boosting nightly averages, Well, people want more suites than
hotel rooms. They want connecting rooms because I think they
want to bring their kids, which I've no understood at all.
And now the question is whether or not these hotel
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rates are going to stay around. The chief executive of
Marriott International, which includes Ritz Carlton Saint Regis, I mean,
these are pricey hotels, says, you know, what not what
not doesn't look like it's going down anytime soon. It
is acknowledging. And here is one downside. Uh, it's looking
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at how much travelers spend at the hotels. And it's
not just room rates, because does that mean that a
high room rate means less money for the extras? That
mean less money for room service? Does that mean fewer amenities?
And if the hotel has a spa, which they all do,
is that's uh, fewer massages spa rates. They don't know yet,
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They don't know yet, but my guess is nah. So, yeah,
welcome to the world of hotels. You know are cheap hotels.
By the way, I haven't stayed in a hotel in
a while, Neil or Amy or Ann?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Have you stayed in the hotel recently last year?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Have you? Have you noticed rates are up down about
the same they seem up to me they are.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I stayed out of Westbury, San Diego.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It was like three fifty at night.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You remember Motel six It was six dollars when they
first came out. Kno, have you ever stayed in a hotel?
This is where you pay money and they actually give
you a room. You know that, don't you?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, I'm more of a motel eight guy, Yeah, super eight.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I've stayed really I've stayed in really cheap hotels and
they're just fine. And then I'm asked at the at
the front desk with or without bed bugs because you
pay more for bed bugs.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Did you know that in certain places?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And then you got to pay triple if you want
them to bite.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We stayed we were in.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Arizona and we got an airbab and it was about
five hundred dollars for the whole weekend. Yeah, that was
except five rooms had like three bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It was airbnbs have gone through the roof too. I
mean they have gone.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But that's no, No, it's very good.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
One of the things I hate about airbnbs is figuring
out how the TV works.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
For example, you know where the light switches are in
the house. I mean you have to learn the place
and there's a shift the manual.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
No, they do have a manual. They did have a
manual and it was very well labeled. But you don't
even know how to do those things in your own dam.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's absolutely correct, and by the way, that's he's not kidding.
I lived in the Persian Palace for almost twenty five
years and I did not know where certain light switches were.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That is the absolute truth.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And we've got well end of the show coming up,
but the last half hour we always do on a
Wednesday with doctor Jim Keeney. This segment with doctor Keeney
is brought to you by Kick Medicine of USC.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Together we are limitless. Good morning Jim, Good morning Bill. Okay,
I just coughed. Hang on a minute. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sometimes I think you can't hear me.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
No, I can hear you. I just.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know, Ja, I've been doing this long enough where
it's gotten to the point now where the show almost
gets in.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
The way of my life.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, gets in the way of breakfast, gets in the
way of phone calls, you know, coughing and hawking and
going to the bathroom and putting stuff into the toast robin.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
All right, now, let's get uh.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And by the way, Jim, of course is our medical
consultant and er doctor, so he knows a lot about everything. Okay,
Let's start with a story that for the last few
days has been almost at the forefront of all the
news outlets that I have seen, and that is the
mosquitoes and the the the rare diseases that are flying
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around and how dangerous is this?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, I mean mosquitoes are having a day. So they
just are. They're the cause of quite a few different
viruses that can go around. You know, we know about
West Nile virus. There was a patient in New Hampshire
who died of equine encephalitis. So all these weird, rare diseases.
Dangy is making a big comeback all around the world,
(16:27):
including in the United States. So I mean, they are
a significant carrier of disease and it's something that you
have to watch out for, and it's.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Getting rid of them.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Is just the traditional stuff, and that is the spraying
and the standing water, et cetera. Now I'm assuming that
when you go into the South East, for example, if
you're in Florida or Louisiana, then you have a real
issue with those mosquitoes as opposed to let's say Death
Valley where it's one hundred and eighty nine degrees. But
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what I want to go into, and the question is
what is a good mosquito repellent. Now, it used to
be what was it dte that used to be phenomenal
and you just killed everything in its path and now
we have Yeah, no, now it's Deep, which is different.
Let's yeah, you probably aren't old enough to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
That guy, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, no, I think it is.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I think it's pretty old. Deep's been around for like
fifty years at least, and it works very well. It
doesn't have a lot of known problems. I mean, okay,
so if if you use it incorrectly or you slather
all over your body, you've got to remember the right
way to use Deep is that you put it on
your exposed areas. Only you don't have to put it
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under your clothes. And the idea is that you're going
to get exposed to mosquitoes, wear more clothing, so you
have maybe a light, long sleeve shirt on. Now. A
lot of times you're in the tropics, and that's that's
difficult because you're already sweating like crazy, and now you
want to put a lot and sleeve shirt on. But
if you have the exposed areas, you put DEEP only
on those areas, and you only use the concentration that
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you need for how long you're going to be exposed.
You know, if you're a worker and you're building the
Panama Canal, you probably need a higher level of deep
because you're going to be out there all day long
and you need hours and hours of potential exposure to
be protected. But if you're just going out at sunset,
you're going to the beach, you're going somewhere for a
couple hours, you know, these concentrations that are between fifteen
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and thirty percent deep are just fine for that. Those
will last anywhere from you know, two to four hours,
two to six hours, and that'll get you through and
not expose you to any excess deep.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Now, you're an outdoorsy kind of guy, do you participate
in making sure that mosquitoes don't get near you?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I mean, yeah, in southern California, we don't have that
big of a problem. But if I'm going to go
someplace where there's I know there's a lot of mosquitos,
a lot of standing water. If I'll be out during
sunset and I know that, you know, either I want
to be or I don't have an option, if you're
backpacking or something, then yes, absolutely I do use it
more because mosquito pes drive me nuts. We don't have
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a lot of that in southern California, but when I
when I've been in Haiti, or when I've been in
Papua New Guinea, where you do have dangy and all
these other diseases that you can get malaria, then we're
pretty religious about putting the stuff on. In fact, in
the Papua New Guinea, that's when I found out it
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melts plastic, because they had put down this really nice
floor for us in this building that they had put
us up in. It was like rolled out linoleum, and
I thought, I'm just going to spray this stuff around
my bed and then maybe the mosquitoes won't get me
at night. It was a dumb idea. It doesn't work
that way to begin with. But when I woke up
in the morning, the linoleum was melted all around where
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I had sprayed the deep. So it does melt plastic.
That if you're hearing a plastic well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
This is why you want to move to those places,
because not only are they hot and human disgusting, you're
also going to be bitten by a mosquito and you're
going to die.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Jim.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
One of the weight loss drugs that are out there,
these magic drugs, and they're pretty magical. Actually, zep bound
just reduce their prices. And this is in light of
the go V CEO talking about how how he defended
thirteen hundred dollars a month and said it's good for
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us to pay that much money.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So what's happening with this?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, drug criss are crazy
and out of control, and the way they determine the
value of them is not necessarily just on how much
it costs to produce the drug, right, It's what it
means for your health and can it reduce healthcare costs elsewhere?
And how motivated are people? So for weight loss, you know,
people are more motivated to spend the money. So they
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know they have down to a fine point how much
they can charge for these things and get away with it.
But in this case they have pressure from compounding pharmacies.
So compounding pharmacies can take, you know, experiment the versions
of the drugs used for different purposes like research, and
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then they can compound that into an injectable form and
sell it. And because the drug is actually much cheaper
than what they charge, they're getting competition from these compounding pharmacies,
so they've reduced their price. Because the injector is a
big part of the cost. And this way, just like
compounding pharmacies supply it to you and just the vile.
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Now they're going to compete with that and supply it
in just a vile and that cut the cost in half.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That means you have to inject it yourself in what
you're saying, this injection that you like an insulin that
diabetics use exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And so their concern is that, you know, with the
compounding pharmacies, usually the way you lower the cost too,
is you have multiple injections in one vial. They're not
doing that. They're going to do a single injection per
vile still, and that's because of concerns that people might
confuse how to dose it. They might not, you know,
draw out the right amount or inject themselves the right amount.
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This way, if there's one dose one vial, you know
that once you've sucked it all out of the vial,
you've got the right dose. But yeah, that's that's what
they're doing and it's gonna it should it reduces the cost,
you know, it reduces the cost because of the auto injector,
but they're also it's allowing them to compete with the
compounding pharmacies who are stealing some of their business.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Now I understand that they have cut this in half. Literally,
instead of thirteen hundred dollars a month, you're at six
hundred and change.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
How often do you have to take this? Do you
happen to know?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I guess once a week, says bad?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, An injections a week isn't bad?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
All right, fair enough, and so we're gonna go ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
But a month's supply is over one thousand dollars, and
now it's going to be you know, five hundred bucks.
Still over five hundred dollars, which.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I think is going to explode the market. And they're
still going to make buckets and buckets of money. Jim, No,
still have another question to ask you really quickly. The
FDA approved gel designed to stop major bleeding. Is this
already being used, let's say, in ambulances, medical facilities.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I haven't seen it yet. I mean, we have four
or five different products that can stop bleeding. And our
hope has always been exactly what they're marketing, which is
you just squirt it in and all the bleeding stops.
But you know, blood comes out under some amount of pressure.
A lot of times it'll push the element out that
you put in there. There are complications from it. Some
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if you get it into the bloodstream, it can cause
blood clots through the body. In other cases it'll cause granulation,
which is like an ugly scar wherever you put it in.
I mean, if it's a life threatening thing, you don't
care about that. But for just a simple cut, you
may not want to put that on it. So it
remains to be seen how well this will work.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Super glue does that work?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, super glue doesn't actually stopped the bleeding. It just
like bubbles up right under it and pushes it off.
And that's what we see a lot with a lot
of these blood clotting things, you know, with the quick
clot that they use, like in the military. You have
to there's a very specific way you have to put
it on. You to put your finger on the bleeding
and then you kind of mush the gauze under your
finger and keep the pressure on the whole time that
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you're adding from the gauze to the bullet wound or
whatever it is. Otherwise it just pushes it right out.
It doesn't work, all.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Right, Jim, Thanks well, Tak Yeah, next Wednesday, all right,
take care as always I said, guys, we are done
for the day. Back again tomorrow with Amy starting with
wake Up Call and that's from five to six. Neil
and I join up from six to nine, and Cono.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And a Never Go Home. I've always said that. All Right,
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And this is KFI Bill Handle here on Homeday, Wednesday,
August twenty eight. Well, Kamala Harris has officially agreed to
a sit down interview with CNN, but she will not
do a sit down without Tim Walls at her side.
(00:26):
And so I can already tell you what that interview
is going to be. Vice President Harris, what's your view
on And she will say, well, Tim, why don't you
answer that question? But Vice President Harris, we want your
view on this, Tim, why don't you tell them my
(00:47):
view on this? I have never seen or heard of
a candidate bringing on a co candidate, in this case,
the vice president candidate to answer the questions in an
interview when he wasn't even asked to be on the interview.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I mean, it's going to be fascinating. I got to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
People are starting to think, hang on a minute, the
same good. You know, there's a little dissension in the
Democratic Party as to what's going on with her and
press conferences and interviews, etc.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, Now, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
If you've been on the one to one freeway up
near Calabasas. North of Calabasas there is that passage safe
passage area. It's a couple hundred feet or one hundred
yards wide, and it goes over the freeway and it
is for animals, particularly mountain lions. Is the big one
(01:43):
here to go from the Santa Monica Mountains over on
the overpass into the.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Northern area north of the freeway.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And that's because it's a natural habitat and right in
the middle as the cougars or the mountain lions go,
there happens to be a freeway in the way, and
they tend to get run over. And so what ended
up happening is a ton of money was raised. It's
ninety two million dollars and it is the Edinburg Wildlife Crossing,
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biggest one in the world. Now what is First of all,
it's kind of neat, although it can be argued ninety
two million dollars can feed a lot of kids and
can help a lot of people with homes. But then again,
you know everybody has their own charity. This is well,
I would argue it is a charity, but is also
(02:38):
a concerted effort effort among environmentalists, among animal lovers and
even folks that are looking at the southern California mountain
lion is endangered, and I think it is endangered, and
too many of them have.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Been run over.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Also, the separation, for the most part has a real
genetic influence on the ones that are left that have
not gone across the freeway, and so there's all kinds
of problems going on. So what makes the story so
interesting is not only when does that open up. I
don't even know it's going to open up. In a
couple of months, next year, it's going to open up.
I mean, I've been building. If you go past it,
(03:14):
it's kind of neat to see what they've done, and
they'll see the vegetation, and we're certainly.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But what's making this happen so quickly is a combination
of the state money, local money, private money, non governmental
organizations NGOs involved, as well as straight out grants, philanthropic grants.
Put all that together, this happens real quickly. Not that
(03:43):
it isn't or shouldn't be happening in other jurisdictions, because
there's a lot of places now around the country where
this idea is really gaining big initiatives.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And by the way, that happens to you know where
all the press came from. Do you remember P. Twenty two?
Do you remember that P. Twenty two?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And originally I thought P. Twenty two was a pet
boat that was in World War Two. That's not true. P.
Twenty two was a mountain lion who had been hit
by a car, had all kinds of problems. I got
hit on the one on one and that sort of turboat.
Everything that got everybody excited as.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think they should be. And it's not just the
mountain lions.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I mean, we're talking about moves that are going on
around the country. It's Florida has one. Matter of fact,
the model is after Florida. But we're talking about other animals,
and it just doesn't stop with the other animals.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
For example, the duel the mule deer.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Hmm, that's a big one in California too, So let's
build a crossing for that because it goes across the road.
And then the one that I think is the most important,
the Yosemite oad the crossing a Tioga pass because so
many of those toes get run over.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Now you know how you well at night when you
can't see the toad.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You get both the squish sound as well as the
croaking all simultaneously, so you know we've run over the toad.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Now I got a question.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I can see the pubas I can see that, I
really can. Those are magnificent creatures. Do I really care
about a toad?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The kangaroo rat and sand Bernardino, I don't know. Although
they're saving the habitat by charging developers a per square
foot charge, if you're building in Riverside for.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The kangaroo, it's the kangaroo rat tax for real. And
so I don't know. Remember this the what is it?
The dart? What was the California dart? What was that fish?
The I forgot the name of it, the little tiny
fish that was smelt. No, not the delta smelt. That's
another one. It's the god.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
People are screaming now this little fish and dart is
in its name, and I my mind slipped my mind
with the rest of the name is anyway, this was
a little tiny fish that was indigenous to northern California,
and it was only one river and they were damming.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Up the river.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Lawsuits were filed and it halted a dam. It halted
a full dam. Hundreds of millions dollars went into that dam.
It was state construction stopped cold because it was going
to I guess eradicate this little tiny fish because it
was only in one tributary that flowed in and it
(06:47):
was going to kill the fish. And then so that
it's okay, the dam is stopped. Hundreds of millions dollars lost.
And then a few years later, in a little creek
a few miles away, some hikers found this little tributary
where there's the where there were so many of these
(07:07):
fish they couldn't walk across, they'd be stepping on them.
So you know, at what point, you know, do we
really want the California smelt. Yeah, it's kind of neat,
but it's not a cougar. See, it's like a koala bear.
We love koala bears. We're gonna save them no matter what.
(07:29):
Enough of that that almost made sense. This next topic
next SEC might want to do.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Particularly for those of you that are either living in
a tent or living in a dumpster, because you're really
going to appreciate this topic. I guarantee you we'll be back.
Amy Snail darter.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's it. The snail darter got it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Also good news in the Kamas war with Israel, Israel
was able to rescue one of the hostages from underneath
the surface in one of the tunnels that Hamas doesn't have. Now,
this is for those of you that are either living
in a tent or living in a dumpster because frankly,
(08:21):
you don't have enough money for housing. So this is
about travelers who travel vacation and are paying north of
one thousand dollars a night for a hotel room. It
is the rise of the thousand dollars a night hotel rooms. Now,
come on, guys, really, well, here's what's going on. When
(08:45):
it comes to our economy. Things have gotten very expensive.
As we know, inflation, even though it is totally under
control now, did hit nine percent. And that's one of
the political issues that Donald Trump legitimately has against the
Biden administration. Not now, but certainly what happened and people
(09:05):
pinching pennies food, got expensive cars, got expensive housing. But
here's the other side of that one. People who are
wealthy don't care. They did just fine because look at
the investments, look at the stock portfolio. People who are
(09:28):
wealthy have money, and inflation really didn't help hurt them.
And after the pandemic, there was this pent up demand
for travel. And so there is that strata, that upper
strata of hotels that you stay at and it's a
thousand bucks a night to start. And what makes this story,
(09:54):
I think so interesting, is that the number of these
hotels that have gone up in some cases in some
places have literally doubled and the totals. And this is
a company called co Star, it's a real estate analytics
and data firm. The number in the US that are
thousand dollars night state as a minimum doubled last year.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
In Europe it tripled last year.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And they're saying the totals are even higher because a
lot of luxury, smaller luxury hotels, these little boutique hotels
and small chains, don't share this data with this company,
with this group called Costar, which actually analyzes data. How
about the United States? Hotels in Miami particularly pricey even
(10:47):
in the middle of summer where it is hot, it
is humid, and if you're talking about the quote festive season, well, okay,
December twenty third to twenty six, probably one of the
most expensive places or times in the country. You go
to the Four Seasons Miami Surf Side and you look
(11:07):
up the room. The cheapest one is twenty four hundred
dollars a night, and that's up from eighteen hundred dollars
a night in November of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Rates are completely crazy. It is nuts.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
By the way, if you go to the Four Seasons,
they'll tell you, you know what, you can't afford it.
You bitch and complain, I really can't afford it. The
Four Seasons will tell you the Boca Raton is only
six hundred dollars a night, and that's the inexpensive budget hotel.
So the wealth effect is alive and well, the national
(11:45):
director of Hospitality Analytics for co Star and what else
is boosting nightly averages, Well, people want more suites than
hotel rooms. They want connecting rooms because I think they
want to bring their kids, which I've no understood at all.
And now the question is whether or not these hotel
(12:05):
rates are going to stay around. The chief executive of
Marriott International, which includes Ritz Carlton Saint Regis, I mean,
these are pricey hotels, says, you know, what not what
not doesn't look like it's going down anytime soon. It
is acknowledging. And here is one downside. Uh, it's looking
(12:27):
at how much travelers spend at the hotels. And it's
not just room rates, because does that mean that a
high room rate means less money for the extras? That
mean less money for room service? Does that mean fewer amenities?
And if the hotel has a spa, which they all do,
is that's uh, fewer massages spa rates. They don't know yet,
(12:51):
They don't know yet, but my guess is nah. So, yeah,
welcome to the world of hotels. You know are cheap hotels.
By the way, I haven't stayed in a hotel in
a while, Neil or Amy or Ann?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Have you stayed in the hotel recently last year?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Have you? Have you noticed rates are up down about
the same they seem up to me they are.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I stayed out of Westbury, San Diego.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
It was like three fifty at night.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You remember Motel six It was six dollars when they
first came out. Kno, have you ever stayed in a hotel?
This is where you pay money and they actually give
you a room. You know that, don't you?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, I'm more of a motel eight guy, Yeah, super eight.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I've stayed really I've stayed in really cheap hotels and
they're just fine. And then I'm asked at the at
the front desk with or without bed bugs because you
pay more for bed bugs.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Did you know that in certain places?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And then you got to pay triple if you want
them to bite.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We stayed we were in.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Arizona and we got an airbab and it was about
five hundred dollars for the whole weekend. Yeah, that was
except five rooms had like three bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It was airbnbs have gone through the roof too. I
mean they have gone.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But that's no, No, it's very good.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
One of the things I hate about airbnbs is figuring
out how the TV works.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
For example, you know where the light switches are in
the house. I mean you have to learn the place
and there's a shift the manual.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
No, they do have a manual. They did have a
manual and it was very well labeled. But you don't
even know how to do those things in your own dam.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's absolutely correct, and by the way, that's he's not kidding.
I lived in the Persian Palace for almost twenty five
years and I did not know where certain light switches were.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That is the absolute truth.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And we've got well end of the show coming up,
but the last half hour we always do on a
Wednesday with doctor Jim Keeney. This segment with doctor Keeney
is brought to you by Kick Medicine of USC.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Together we are limitless. Good morning Jim, Good morning Bill. Okay,
I just coughed. Hang on a minute. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sometimes I think you can't hear me.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
No, I can hear you. I just.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know, Ja, I've been doing this long enough where
it's gotten to the point now where the show almost
gets in.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
The way of my life.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, gets in the way of breakfast, gets in the
way of phone calls, you know, coughing and hawking and
going to the bathroom and putting stuff into the toast robin.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
All right, now, let's get uh.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And by the way, Jim, of course is our medical
consultant and er doctor, so he knows a lot about everything. Okay,
Let's start with a story that for the last few
days has been almost at the forefront of all the
news outlets that I have seen, and that is the
mosquitoes and the the the rare diseases that are flying
(16:02):
around and how dangerous is this?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, I mean mosquitoes are having a day. So they
just are. They're the cause of quite a few different
viruses that can go around. You know, we know about
West Nile virus. There was a patient in New Hampshire
who died of equine encephalitis. So all these weird, rare diseases.
Dangy is making a big comeback all around the world,
(16:27):
including in the United States. So I mean, they are
a significant carrier of disease and it's something that you
have to watch out for, and it's.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Getting rid of them.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Is just the traditional stuff, and that is the spraying
and the standing water, et cetera. Now I'm assuming that
when you go into the South East, for example, if
you're in Florida or Louisiana, then you have a real
issue with those mosquitoes as opposed to let's say Death
Valley where it's one hundred and eighty nine degrees. But
(16:57):
what I want to go into, and the question is
what is a good mosquito repellent. Now, it used to
be what was it dte that used to be phenomenal
and you just killed everything in its path and now
we have Yeah, no, now it's Deep, which is different.
Let's yeah, you probably aren't old enough to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
That guy, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, no, I think it is.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I think it's pretty old. Deep's been around for like
fifty years at least, and it works very well. It
doesn't have a lot of known problems. I mean, okay,
so if if you use it incorrectly or you slather
all over your body, you've got to remember the right
way to use Deep is that you put it on
your exposed areas. Only you don't have to put it
(17:45):
under your clothes. And the idea is that you're going
to get exposed to mosquitoes, wear more clothing, so you
have maybe a light, long sleeve shirt on. Now. A
lot of times you're in the tropics, and that's that's
difficult because you're already sweating like crazy, and now you
want to put a lot and sleeve shirt on. But
if you have the exposed areas, you put DEEP only
on those areas, and you only use the concentration that
(18:07):
you need for how long you're going to be exposed.
You know, if you're a worker and you're building the
Panama Canal, you probably need a higher level of deep
because you're going to be out there all day long
and you need hours and hours of potential exposure to
be protected. But if you're just going out at sunset,
you're going to the beach, you're going somewhere for a
couple hours, you know, these concentrations that are between fifteen
(18:30):
and thirty percent deep are just fine for that. Those
will last anywhere from you know, two to four hours,
two to six hours, and that'll get you through and
not expose you to any excess deep.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Now, you're an outdoorsy kind of guy, do you participate
in making sure that mosquitoes don't get near you?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I mean, yeah, in southern California, we don't have that
big of a problem. But if I'm going to go
someplace where there's I know there's a lot of mosquitos,
a lot of standing water. If I'll be out during
sunset and I know that, you know, either I want
to be or I don't have an option, if you're
backpacking or something, then yes, absolutely I do use it
more because mosquito pes drive me nuts. We don't have
(19:13):
a lot of that in southern California, but when I
when I've been in Haiti, or when I've been in
Papua New Guinea, where you do have dangy and all
these other diseases that you can get malaria, then we're
pretty religious about putting the stuff on. In fact, in
the Papua New Guinea, that's when I found out it
(19:36):
melts plastic, because they had put down this really nice
floor for us in this building that they had put
us up in. It was like rolled out linoleum, and
I thought, I'm just going to spray this stuff around
my bed and then maybe the mosquitoes won't get me
at night. It was a dumb idea. It doesn't work
that way to begin with. But when I woke up
in the morning, the linoleum was melted all around where
(19:56):
I had sprayed the deep. So it does melt plastic.
That if you're hearing a plastic well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
This is why you want to move to those places,
because not only are they hot and human disgusting, you're
also going to be bitten by a mosquito and you're
going to die.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Jim.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
One of the weight loss drugs that are out there,
these magic drugs, and they're pretty magical. Actually, zep bound
just reduce their prices. And this is in light of
the go V CEO talking about how how he defended
thirteen hundred dollars a month and said it's good for
(20:33):
us to pay that much money.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So what's happening with this?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, drug criss are crazy
and out of control, and the way they determine the
value of them is not necessarily just on how much
it costs to produce the drug, right, It's what it
means for your health and can it reduce healthcare costs elsewhere?
And how motivated are people? So for weight loss, you know,
people are more motivated to spend the money. So they
(20:59):
know they have down to a fine point how much
they can charge for these things and get away with it.
But in this case they have pressure from compounding pharmacies.
So compounding pharmacies can take, you know, experiment the versions
of the drugs used for different purposes like research, and
(21:21):
then they can compound that into an injectable form and
sell it. And because the drug is actually much cheaper
than what they charge, they're getting competition from these compounding pharmacies,
so they've reduced their price. Because the injector is a
big part of the cost. And this way, just like
compounding pharmacies supply it to you and just the vile.
(21:42):
Now they're going to compete with that and supply it
in just a vile and that cut the cost in half.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That means you have to inject it yourself in what
you're saying, this injection that you like an insulin that
diabetics use exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And so their concern is that, you know, with the
compounding pharmacies, usually the way you lower the cost too,
is you have multiple injections in one vial. They're not
doing that. They're going to do a single injection per
vile still, and that's because of concerns that people might
confuse how to dose it. They might not, you know,
draw out the right amount or inject themselves the right amount.
(22:18):
This way, if there's one dose one vial, you know
that once you've sucked it all out of the vial,
you've got the right dose. But yeah, that's that's what
they're doing and it's gonna it should it reduces the cost,
you know, it reduces the cost because of the auto injector,
but they're also it's allowing them to compete with the
compounding pharmacies who are stealing some of their business.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Now I understand that they have cut this in half. Literally,
instead of thirteen hundred dollars a month, you're at six
hundred and change.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
How often do you have to take this? Do you
happen to know?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
I guess once a week, says bad?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, An injections a week isn't bad?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
All right, fair enough, and so we're gonna go ahead.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
But a month's supply is over one thousand dollars, and
now it's going to be you know, five hundred bucks.
Still over five hundred dollars, which.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I think is going to explode the market. And they're
still going to make buckets and buckets of money. Jim, No,
still have another question to ask you really quickly. The
FDA approved gel designed to stop major bleeding. Is this
already being used, let's say, in ambulances, medical facilities.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I haven't seen it yet. I mean, we have four
or five different products that can stop bleeding. And our
hope has always been exactly what they're marketing, which is
you just squirt it in and all the bleeding stops.
But you know, blood comes out under some amount of pressure.
A lot of times it'll push the element out that
you put in there. There are complications from it. Some
(23:45):
if you get it into the bloodstream, it can cause
blood clots through the body. In other cases it'll cause granulation,
which is like an ugly scar wherever you put it in.
I mean, if it's a life threatening thing, you don't
care about that. But for just a simple cut, you
may not want to put that on it. So it
remains to be seen how well this will work.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Super glue does that work?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, super glue doesn't actually stopped the bleeding. It just
like bubbles up right under it and pushes it off.
And that's what we see a lot with a lot
of these blood clotting things, you know, with the quick
clot that they use, like in the military. You have
to there's a very specific way you have to put
it on. You to put your finger on the bleeding
and then you kind of mush the gauze under your
finger and keep the pressure on the whole time that
(24:28):
you're adding from the gauze to the bullet wound or
whatever it is. Otherwise it just pushes it right out.
It doesn't work, all.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Right, Jim, Thanks well, Tak Yeah, next Wednesday, all right,
take care as always I said, guys, we are done
for the day. Back again tomorrow with Amy starting with
wake Up Call and that's from five to six. Neil
and I join up from six to nine, and Cono.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And a Never Go Home. I've always said that. All Right,
have a good one.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
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