September 3, 2024 • 27 mins
KFI's own Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Tech Tuesday'! Rich talks about satellite messaging and ESPN launching a new way to find sports events. Democrats grow concerned that Republicans are planting seeds w/ legal suits to overturn a Trump defeat.
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Tech Tuesday. September third actually is Taco Tuesday, but we
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His shows on kt LA, also Instagram at rich on
Tech website, rich on tech dot TV. Good morning, Rich,
Good morning to Bill. A lot going on in the
world of tech. Okay, something that I truly don't care
about because I'm not into sports even a little bit,
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but enough of you are, so I am caving into
public pressure. Here, ESPN launches an easy way to find
where sports event are on either a channel or streaming.
And since I don't give a rats, because I that's
not true.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I like football. Now I become sort of a football
fan or yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Are you watching like American football?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh yeah, Well a soccer World Cup. I'll watch that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But that's the most boring thing in the world, the
World Cup stuff. You know, you go for two and
a half hours and nothing happens, and if someone wins
one zero, you got a huge game, So I find
that fairly boring but boring. But NFL football I enjoy
only Why have you You've gone to games before, haven't you? I?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, you know. I'll be honest. I was not big
into sports either. In college, I went to all the games,
but like just for the fun. But then my kid
actually got me into basketball and football, and so now
I'm like, you know, watching all these games.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Huh Okay, Now, are you an SPN fan? ESPN fan?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I mean I define ESPN fan. I don't think so,
I don't. I don't even I've I've never watched ESPN,
so I don't know. I couldn't tell you that I
was a fan of them, but I know about ESPN.
So but here here's the thing that I'm telling you
about today, which I think is going to be great
for sports fans. You know, we have this whole like
world of streaming now, and of course games are like
all over the place, including these streaming services like Prime
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Video or Peacock or even Netflix has a couple of
games over Christmas. They're going to have like a couple
of games this year. So ESPN came out with this
thing called where to Watch ESPN dot Com slash where
to Watch, and you can program in your favorite teams
or the sports that you like to watch, and it
will help you locate these events, whether they're on broadcast, cable,
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the regional networks, which are really popular now because they
make a lot of money for the sports teams and
streaming services, and so it's just a neat, easy way
to see where things are playing and where you can
find that game instead of searching Google the whole time.
And it's great now. The other one I like, there's
one called Fubo Gamefinder that's also handy, so you can
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go there and type it in. But the reality is
bill this just helps people find the games faster, even
though it is still very complicated when it comes to
sports because there's so much money at stake.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
These games are in so many different places.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Now, I what am I missing here?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
When I want to know, for example, the Packers game
it's coming up. My daughter's a Packers fan, so occasionally
I'll watch with her. How difficult is it to go
on Siri and say, Hey, Siri, what platform are the
Packers playing on? Okay, Sarry comes up and says, hey,
they're on ABC or they're on you know, it wouldn't
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be well Netflix maybe and are they they're doing films too,
I mean games too.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Well, see Surprise.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
The next game on Friday nine to six, the Packers
are playing the Eagles on Peacock. Who would ever think
that this would be exclusively on Peacock And it's not
on any other device channel as far as I can tell,
So you would have to have a streaming subscription to
Peacock to watch this game with your daughter. And so
that's what I'm talking about. It's like, you know, and
Siri may or may not have that information. So actually
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there's another side of the story. Apple has an app
called Apple Sports which they are doing something similar. They're
trying to tell you where the games are, and obviously
Apple has a hand in that with Apple TV and
all that. But I don't think it's as good or
as easy as what ESPN came out with because they
do two hundred and fifty different platforms. So whether it's
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on Peacock or ABC or NBC or CBS or Sunday Ticket,
whatever it is, you're gonna be able to find it.
I'm not sure if Siri is that good.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let's find out, Hey, Siri, where can I watch the
next Packers game?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And let's see what Siri here Green.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Bay Watchpackers Network brings your family gnyed how to watch
Packers game live.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
See that's that's like all like just web results, like
you know what I I like, it's not really telling
you exactly where to go. So they're getting there, but
I don't think it's perfect just yet. But anyway, the
good news is most of the Packers games are on
the network like Fox, CBS, and you should be okay
except for Peacock.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's the other things which I think is it's well,
the world has changed where now the streaming services are
grabbing these games and across the board. And clearly the
NFL must love this because they're getting money. There's a
probably a bidding war, isn't there For major games. It
used to be either NBC had it or CBS had it,
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one of the two had the old had the season,
and occasionally it would be the other network for the
Super Bowl. Now it is all over the place, and
it costs a ton of money to go to all
these platforms.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah, and that's why I think the NFL loves it
because they're getting money independently. I mean, look at I
think Netflix bought like three games for Christmas Day or
two games for whatever it is, a couple of games,
and they probably pay the NFL a lot of money.
And Amazon Prime, Amazon Prime took Thursday Night Football and
they paid the NFL a ton of money. And meanwhile,
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the consumer obviously has to go to all these different
places because now you have to subscribe to you know,
Prime Video and Peacock and Netflix to get these games,
or Sunday Ticket, which is always reserved for sort of
like super fans that wanted to follow one team.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But my dream bill.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Is what Apple has done with MLS Major League Soccer.
They bought the rights to that and they made it
so that you can watch every single game, no matter what,
whether it's in your local area or not, all for
one price for the entire year. There's no blackouts, there's
no local versus national, it's all just the same. And
I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon with something
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like the NFL because there's just too much money at stake.
But that would be the dream where you could just
be able to watch everything for one price. The Clippers
did it, they had like a streaming they have their
own streaming service. It's happening little by little, but not
in a big way.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
How much money do you pay for that, by the way,
for the soccer.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well, actually, right now today it's only ten bucks for
the rest of the season, but I think it's ninety
nine dollars for the for the season.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Which is not bad because MLB the baseball is like
hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
The NFL is hundreds of dollars. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, it adds up.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
But look, if you're a sports fan and you enjoy
and the other way to look at it is that
if you went to one game, like if you bought
tickets to one RAMS game or whatever, you know, you're
out a couple hundred bucks for one game. And by
the way, if you buy a beer there or anything else,
you're out another couple you know, one hundred bucks or whatever.
So you know, watching at home it's still probably cheaper overall, but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
It's just a different experience as well.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, and better I think understanding the game. But so
much for that maximizing reward points. Now, this is something
that I am a big fan of what I do
when I get a credit card and I just switch
banks and I'm looking at credit cards, and I have
all these choices that I can have different cards, different rewards,
money back, costs, etc. I am a big fan of
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reward points for travel. Now probably do better with cash back,
but you know, for me, it's points because cash disappears.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You get one hundred dollars, you get two hundred dollars,
it just disappears. It goes into whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Account rewards miles you get at the end of the year,
and you cash them in and you fly. How do
people what would people mostly do?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah? No, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I think that, you know, some people like the simplicity
of cash back because it's easy. But I agree, it
does just go into like the ether, and it just
kind of like you never see it again. Whereas points,
you can see them add up, you can see them
build up. Plus you can combine the points that you
get from say a card, but also points that you
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get from staying at a hotel, so you kind of
maximize you know, the double dipping there.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
But yeah, so I'm in points, by the way.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Big big business, because I've interviewed the points guy name's
Brian Kelly. He built the entire website off this thing,
made millions upon millions of dollars on points because for
every time someone opens up one of these credit cards,
it gives you points. These these websites make money. They
get like a finder's fee, which could be hundreds of dollars.
So it is a big business that the banks and
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the airlines and the hotels, they all absolutely love it.
Just be careful, you know, you don't want to go
into debt by accruing points, right, that's obviously number one.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Do people do that?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Do they spend more money than they should just for
the points?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, Bill, I think I think in general, if you're
using a card, people definitely. The studies have shown that
people do spend more money. I mean, you know, if
you're handing over one hundred dollars in cash versus one
hundred dollars in their card, you know that thee hundred
dollars in cash feels like it hurts more, right than
the card part. Just swipe, you know, you don't think
about it again until you get that bill. With that said,
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I think that you know you can be responsible with
this stuff, and you can also accrue it, like I
travel a lot, so I just get a bunch of
points that I do use eventually. But let me tell
you about some of these new tools out there. So
the first one I looked at is called points yeah
dot Com.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And what this is.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
It's sort of a search engine like you might go
to Google flights or Expedia, but this is all based
on points. So they search across all the airline programs
or twenty of them to be exact, the bank programs
and also you know the online kind of like airline
programs as well, or the hotel programs too. So you
can do one search and you know your points that
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you may have with Chase may somehow transfer to jet
Blue and they may find you a really good flight
for there.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So that's what they do. There's a free level of service.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And obviously all of these things are kind of like
freeing where they want you to pay eventually, but you
can get some good free stuff. So that's points yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Points yeah. Okay, that is that points dot com.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yes, And that one's brand new. That one just came out.
It's pretty good. It's a lot. Believe me.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
When you go to that website, it's like Wow, there's
a lot of stuff going on here.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But these are nerds. I interviewed the guy on my
radio show.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
It's like, these are travel nerds that were like, we
need to build this thing because it needs to exist.
Point me is a little bit simpler, but you do
have to pay for the search results. So but same
kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
It searches across multiple programs and transfer partners to help
you find the best use of your points. Because you
may say, okay, cool, I can use fifty thousand points
to get a flight on United, but Jet Blue or
Alaska might be twenty thousand points and for the same flight,
same area, and you know you can do that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, to that point, it used to be.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And I I've always used my points to upgrade. I
found that to be the best way you buy a
coach ticket and if you have an points, you upgrade
to business. I've always thought that was the best thing going.
And it didn't take that many points. I mean, you
had to spend some money today to do that. You
need I don't know, one point three million points to upgrade.
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It's kind of insane how much you have to spend
to get those points.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, it's certainly gotten more competitive and the points have
definitely devalued over time. So like you know, like I
said in my story, you know for TV, you know,
it used to be it was like twenty five thousand
points got to a free flee free round trip flight somewhere, right,
And that's all gone out the window because now United
and American in Delta, they know that if you want
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to leave on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, they're going to
charge you more for that flight, even if you're doing
it with points than they would have, you know, twenty
years ago. So these companies have gotten hipped to it.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But the good news is.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
If you're willing to travel on off days, you can
find the flight that you want to go to the
place you want to go for a lot less points
than you might think. And that's what these sort of
search engines are trying to help you. With a couple
other things I really like. There's one called points Path,
and this is a browser extension that goes on your
Chrome browser and it when you search on Google Flights,
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which I still think is a great way to search
for flights, it will display how many points you need
for that flight, and it puts it right next to
the cash price, and it tells you, hey, we think
you should use points instead of paying or hey we
think you should pay cash and it's better than using
your points.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So that's really interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
And then finally there's something called the point sky, which
I referenced earlier. He has an awards versus cash calculator.
Same thing like points path, except more elaborate. You can
put in let's say you found a flight for forty
thousand points, the flight would cost you two hundred and
sixty dollars to book with cash.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
You can put those both into this calculator.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It will say, you know what, You're actually better off
paying cash because your points are worth four and seventy
two dollars saving for the next flight.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Got it all right? Rich, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
We'll catch you over the weekend eleven to two pm
eleven am to two pm on Saturday on Instagram at
rich on Tech website, richontech dot TV, and we will.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Catch you over the weekend. Thanks Bill, Take care, okay, Rich,
great show.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yes, all right, now, this is a tough one. This
is one of the things that I'm the most concerned
about is our franchise to vote. Having come to the
United States as an immigrant, and my parents love to vote,
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and to them it was a very very important part
of their lives, and immigrants do this for the most part,
where the idea of democracy is everything. Unfortunately, we've reached
the point where there really is an attack on democracy.
I believe when the Democrats say the Republicans in this case,
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Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And that is the argument that unless Trump wins, unless
Republicans win, it is a rigged vote. Automatically, it is
a given that it is a rigged vote. We saw
that happen in twenty twenty, and now we're going to
see it happen in a way you cannot believe. There
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are already a slew of legal fights in the battleground states,
and what the Republicans are saying is that we are
preparing to attack the vote in every battleground state that
Trump loses, because it is by definition a rigged vote.
The Democrats are coming back and they're filing lawsuits, even
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though every lawsuit is different in different states. So what
the Democrats position is is basically all these lawsuits are
the same, and that is not to maintain that the
votes are safe and our democracy is safeguarded. It is
for this simple purpose. If Trump loses to overturn the
vote period done. That's the beginning, that's the end, that's
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the middle of all this. Georgia's Republican controlled state election
board is giving local officials to the power to decide
on their own whether something wrong happened during the balloting.
They have the power local officials to say, we don't
think this is a legitimate vote.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Local officials, their job is to count the votes.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
If there is an issue as to fraud, it goes
to the courts and the court makes that determination.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Not in Georgia. So you have local officials.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And by the way, the officials local local election boards
in Georgia is they decide the state election board is
five people, three to two. They decided that they were
going to be able to, in fact, determine what the
vote is. It's really scary. They're gonna do a lot
more than simply count the votes. In Michigan, Republicans are
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suing whether the city of Detroit hired enough GOP poll workers.
In North Carolina, the allegation is that state's voter rolls
could allow non citizens to vote. Now all of these
suits look different, as I said, and the Harris campaign says,
look at the pattern tying all of them together together.
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What's happening is that Trump and his Republican allies simply
want to sew confusion should the outcome he loses, that
it was rigged, that it was unfair took place. And
we know that was the allegation with the twenty twenty campaign.
Look at January sixth, and virtually everybody that was caught
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and tried and convicted, they all had a universal defense.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
We were there.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To uphold the Constitution because the election was fraud it
was stolen, it was rigged. And the real scary part,
and I've said this before, and I know Republicans who
are very smart people, I just don't get it. The
majority of Republicans, like three quarters seventy one percent or something,
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believe the vote was rigged.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
They believe the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Was rigged, that Joe Biden stole the election, and it
was the safest election, the most secure election we've ever
had in the history of the United States, even more so.
But the Republicans are already prepared to file lawsuits, seventy
three of them are ready to go.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Democrats are submitting their legal filings at least one case
at this point, arguing that the true purpose of the
GOP litigation is.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Too real simple. Let's do it overturn the election.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And here is scenario defeated Trump couldn't vote the cases
to revive his claim that he had in twenty twenty
that the election was tainted and should nullify the results.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
By the way, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Let's say they are successful in nullifying the results. You
have Kanawa Harris who is running for president.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Let's say she wins, and the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Then stop as many votes as possible in those battleground
states so she he doesn't win.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
And they can't just turn around.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean, the election officials aren't going to just turn
around and say twenty thousand votes are actually seventeen thousand votes.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I mean, you can imagine them going into.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Court instantly, and the court will order independent to audits,
and this may take months and months.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Before it's finally figured out.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know what remains president, Joe Biden. Joe Biden remains president. Now,
I don't know if those Republicans. I'm not blaming all
the Republicans believe me. I don't think the majority. Well,
I gotta tell I don't know, because if the majority
of Republicans believe the election was stolen in twenty twenty,
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Kamala Harris wins in twenty twenty four, are they going
to believe that the election is stolen if she wins.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's almost like it's almost.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Automatic that the only fair election is a Trump win.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean, it's mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Now what R and C spokesperson Claire Zunk said, President
Trump's election integrity effort we're talking about the lawsuits that
are going to file, is dedicated to protecting every legal vote,
mitigating threats to the voting process, and securing the election.
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While Democrats continue their election interference against President Trump and
the American people, our operation is confronting their schemes preparing
for November. It is already out there. The election is rigged.
The Democrats are already rigging the elections. It already has
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been put in place. Fraud will take place. The Democrats
are preparing the fraud. And what the Republicans are doing
is they are in fact defending America, defending the constitution.
Much like what happened on January sixth, when President Trump
at that point told Mike Pence to do the right
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thing and defend the Constitution and not certify the electoral vote.
It's absolutely stunning. So both sides are girding for a
post election period, a contested post election period. Now it
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could be the Democrats could try to overturn the results
of trump wins.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Maybe it's gotten to that point, and I don't know
the answer to that.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
At this point, the lawsuits that are being prepared is
stopping the RNC from going forward with attacking the election.
At this moment, the election is not being attacked by
the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Voy did that cough catch up with me? Is it
going to change? It might have. We really reached the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Point where now whatever side loses, by definition, the other
side has rigged the election.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
That's never happened before. In the history of the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It has always been the case where there was a
peaceful transfer of power.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Now was there a peaceful transfer?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well after the vote was counted, after Mike pens declared
the number of electoral votes and declared that Joe Biden
won the election, the issue came up, would former President
Trump leave the White House arguing that he was the
elected president, which he's argued to this day, that he
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is the president that was elected.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Even when he won the election.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And Joe Biden had several million votes I think seven
million votes, he had the popular vote, Trump said that
that was a lie that had not those votes been
counted for Joe Biden wrongly, he would Trump would have
won the election by a landslide, not that he lost
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the popular vote. I mean, we're looking at some very
very tough times. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I hope this changes. I really do.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I mean truly, I've reached the point where, by definition,
when you lose it's rigged.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
In the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Of America, that you have some people saying, effectively, there's
a one party system. We should be we should do
what China does, and that is have a one party system.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Otherwise the election is rigged. It's horrific. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
In a few minutes, the podcast drops and today is
who is Benjamin Nettan Yahoo? And that's available on the
iHeartRadio app, also available on Spotify and Apple et cetera. Also,
I am taking phone calls for handle on the law eight.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Seven seven five two zero eleven fifty. I start that a.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Few minutes after the top of the hour. I'm going
to do that off the air. And when I do
that off the air, here's what happens. Well, here's what
doesn't happen. No commercials. We don't have breaks. There's no weather,
there's no traffic. It's just me and you. And the
other thing that doesn't happen is patients. So there's no commercials,
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no breaks, no patients. And I go through these rather quickly.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Tomorrow, kno, tomorrow, Amy is coming back right, that is correct? Okay?
And Wayne is here the entire week?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And I say it's not up on a board, so
I haven't read this. I can't read it. See, I'm
figuring this out myself. And Neil is filling in with
Marla at nine o'clock for Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, I'm filling in for Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Buddy, Oh you're oh there you are. You're on a microphone. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I didn't see you. Is Marla there? Also? No Marla
is sick? Are you by yourself by carry the one? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh okay, So we don't get that. We don't get
you often enough by yourself. And actually it's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Are you hitting on me?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, I'm not, but I want to point out for
those of you that normally don't listen, uh, it is
actually fun listening to Neil humiliate.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Himself and just blow the entire four hours. And I'm
looking forward to it. No, I've been.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I've been watching you and studying you for so long.
I've got malaprops that I'm gonna be doing. I'm gonna
be misspeaking, slurring, eating. I got it all down.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Excellent, all right, So I Handle on the law phone
calls A seven seven five two zero eleven fifty Neil
and Marla.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
No, Neil and Neil.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Tomorrow and today and for the rest of the week.
We'll hope Marla comes back to save your ass.
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Tech website, rich on tech dot TV. Good morning, Rich,
Good morning to Bill. A lot going on in the
world of tech. Okay, something that I truly don't care
about because I'm not into sports even a little bit,
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but enough of you are, so I am caving into
public pressure. Here, ESPN launches an easy way to find
where sports event are on either a channel or streaming.
And since I don't give a rats, because I that's
not true.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I like football. Now I become sort of a football
fan or yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Are you watching like American football?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh yeah, Well a soccer World Cup. I'll watch that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
But that's the most boring thing in the world, the
World Cup stuff. You know, you go for two and
a half hours and nothing happens, and if someone wins
one zero, you got a huge game, So I find
that fairly boring but boring. But NFL football I enjoy
only Why have you You've gone to games before, haven't you? I?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, you know. I'll be honest. I was not big
into sports either. In college, I went to all the games,
but like just for the fun. But then my kid
actually got me into basketball and football, and so now
I'm like, you know, watching all these games.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Huh Okay, Now, are you an SPN fan? ESPN fan?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I mean I define ESPN fan. I don't think so,
I don't. I don't even I've I've never watched ESPN,
so I don't know. I couldn't tell you that I
was a fan of them, but I know about ESPN.
So but here here's the thing that I'm telling you
about today, which I think is going to be great
for sports fans. You know, we have this whole like
world of streaming now, and of course games are like
all over the place, including these streaming services like Prime
(02:18):
Video or Peacock or even Netflix has a couple of
games over Christmas. They're going to have like a couple
of games this year. So ESPN came out with this
thing called where to Watch ESPN dot Com slash where
to Watch, and you can program in your favorite teams
or the sports that you like to watch, and it
will help you locate these events, whether they're on broadcast, cable,
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the regional networks, which are really popular now because they
make a lot of money for the sports teams and
streaming services, and so it's just a neat, easy way
to see where things are playing and where you can
find that game instead of searching Google the whole time.
And it's great now. The other one I like, there's
one called Fubo Gamefinder that's also handy, so you can
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go there and type it in. But the reality is
bill this just helps people find the games faster, even
though it is still very complicated when it comes to
sports because there's so much money at stake.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
These games are in so many different places.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Now, I what am I missing here?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
When I want to know, for example, the Packers game
it's coming up. My daughter's a Packers fan, so occasionally
I'll watch with her. How difficult is it to go
on Siri and say, Hey, Siri, what platform are the
Packers playing on? Okay, Sarry comes up and says, hey,
they're on ABC or they're on you know, it wouldn't
(03:41):
be well Netflix maybe and are they they're doing films too,
I mean games too.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Well, see Surprise.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
The next game on Friday nine to six, the Packers
are playing the Eagles on Peacock. Who would ever think
that this would be exclusively on Peacock And it's not
on any other device channel as far as I can tell,
So you would have to have a streaming subscription to
Peacock to watch this game with your daughter. And so
that's what I'm talking about. It's like, you know, and
Siri may or may not have that information. So actually
(04:09):
there's another side of the story. Apple has an app
called Apple Sports which they are doing something similar. They're
trying to tell you where the games are, and obviously
Apple has a hand in that with Apple TV and
all that. But I don't think it's as good or
as easy as what ESPN came out with because they
do two hundred and fifty different platforms. So whether it's
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on Peacock or ABC or NBC or CBS or Sunday Ticket,
whatever it is, you're gonna be able to find it.
I'm not sure if Siri is that good.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let's find out, Hey, Siri, where can I watch the
next Packers game?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And let's see what Siri here Green.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Bay Watchpackers Network brings your family gnyed how to watch
Packers game live.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
See that's that's like all like just web results, like
you know what I I like, it's not really telling
you exactly where to go. So they're getting there, but
I don't think it's perfect just yet. But anyway, the
good news is most of the Packers games are on
the network like Fox, CBS, and you should be okay
except for Peacock.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's the other things which I think is it's well,
the world has changed where now the streaming services are
grabbing these games and across the board. And clearly the
NFL must love this because they're getting money. There's a
probably a bidding war, isn't there For major games. It
used to be either NBC had it or CBS had it,
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one of the two had the old had the season,
and occasionally it would be the other network for the
Super Bowl. Now it is all over the place, and
it costs a ton of money to go to all
these platforms.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah, and that's why I think the NFL loves it
because they're getting money independently. I mean, look at I
think Netflix bought like three games for Christmas Day or
two games for whatever it is, a couple of games,
and they probably pay the NFL a lot of money.
And Amazon Prime, Amazon Prime took Thursday Night Football and
they paid the NFL a ton of money. And meanwhile,
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the consumer obviously has to go to all these different
places because now you have to subscribe to you know,
Prime Video and Peacock and Netflix to get these games,
or Sunday Ticket, which is always reserved for sort of
like super fans that wanted to follow one team.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But my dream bill.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Is what Apple has done with MLS Major League Soccer.
They bought the rights to that and they made it
so that you can watch every single game, no matter what,
whether it's in your local area or not, all for
one price for the entire year. There's no blackouts, there's
no local versus national, it's all just the same. And
I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon with something
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like the NFL because there's just too much money at stake.
But that would be the dream where you could just
be able to watch everything for one price. The Clippers
did it, they had like a streaming they have their
own streaming service. It's happening little by little, but not
in a big way.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
How much money do you pay for that, by the way,
for the soccer.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well, actually, right now today it's only ten bucks for
the rest of the season, but I think it's ninety
nine dollars for the for the season.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Which is not bad because MLB the baseball is like
hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
The NFL is hundreds of dollars. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, it adds up.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
But look, if you're a sports fan and you enjoy
and the other way to look at it is that
if you went to one game, like if you bought
tickets to one RAMS game or whatever, you know, you're
out a couple hundred bucks for one game. And by
the way, if you buy a beer there or anything else,
you're out another couple you know, one hundred bucks or whatever.
So you know, watching at home it's still probably cheaper overall, but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
It's just a different experience as well.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, and better I think understanding the game. But so
much for that maximizing reward points. Now, this is something
that I am a big fan of what I do
when I get a credit card and I just switch
banks and I'm looking at credit cards, and I have
all these choices that I can have different cards, different rewards,
money back, costs, etc. I am a big fan of
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reward points for travel. Now probably do better with cash back,
but you know, for me, it's points because cash disappears.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You get one hundred dollars, you get two hundred dollars,
it just disappears. It goes into whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Account rewards miles you get at the end of the year,
and you cash them in and you fly. How do
people what would people mostly do?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah? No, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I think that, you know, some people like the simplicity
of cash back because it's easy. But I agree, it
does just go into like the ether, and it just
kind of like you never see it again. Whereas points,
you can see them add up, you can see them
build up. Plus you can combine the points that you
get from say a card, but also points that you
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get from staying at a hotel, so you kind of
maximize you know, the double dipping there.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
But yeah, so I'm in points, by the way.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Big big business, because I've interviewed the points guy name's
Brian Kelly. He built the entire website off this thing,
made millions upon millions of dollars on points because for
every time someone opens up one of these credit cards,
it gives you points. These these websites make money. They
get like a finder's fee, which could be hundreds of dollars.
So it is a big business that the banks and
(09:33):
the airlines and the hotels, they all absolutely love it.
Just be careful, you know, you don't want to go
into debt by accruing points, right, that's obviously number one.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Do people do that?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Do they spend more money than they should just for
the points?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, Bill, I think I think in general, if you're
using a card, people definitely. The studies have shown that
people do spend more money. I mean, you know, if
you're handing over one hundred dollars in cash versus one
hundred dollars in their card, you know that thee hundred
dollars in cash feels like it hurts more, right than
the card part. Just swipe, you know, you don't think
about it again until you get that bill. With that said,
(10:10):
I think that you know you can be responsible with
this stuff, and you can also accrue it, like I
travel a lot, so I just get a bunch of
points that I do use eventually. But let me tell
you about some of these new tools out there. So
the first one I looked at is called points yeah
dot Com.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And what this is.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
It's sort of a search engine like you might go
to Google flights or Expedia, but this is all based
on points. So they search across all the airline programs
or twenty of them to be exact, the bank programs
and also you know the online kind of like airline
programs as well, or the hotel programs too. So you
can do one search and you know your points that
(10:48):
you may have with Chase may somehow transfer to jet
Blue and they may find you a really good flight
for there.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So that's what they do. There's a free level of service.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And obviously all of these things are kind of like
freeing where they want you to pay eventually, but you
can get some good free stuff. So that's points yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Points yeah. Okay, that is that points dot com.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yes, And that one's brand new. That one just came out.
It's pretty good. It's a lot. Believe me.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
When you go to that website, it's like Wow, there's
a lot of stuff going on here.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But these are nerds. I interviewed the guy on my
radio show.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
It's like, these are travel nerds that were like, we
need to build this thing because it needs to exist.
Point me is a little bit simpler, but you do
have to pay for the search results. So but same
kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
It searches across multiple programs and transfer partners to help
you find the best use of your points. Because you
may say, okay, cool, I can use fifty thousand points
to get a flight on United, but Jet Blue or
Alaska might be twenty thousand points and for the same flight,
same area, and you know you can do that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, to that point, it used to be.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And I I've always used my points to upgrade. I
found that to be the best way you buy a
coach ticket and if you have an points, you upgrade
to business. I've always thought that was the best thing going.
And it didn't take that many points. I mean, you
had to spend some money today to do that. You
need I don't know, one point three million points to upgrade.
(12:16):
It's kind of insane how much you have to spend
to get those points.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, it's certainly gotten more competitive and the points have
definitely devalued over time. So like you know, like I
said in my story, you know for TV, you know,
it used to be it was like twenty five thousand
points got to a free flee free round trip flight somewhere, right,
And that's all gone out the window because now United
and American in Delta, they know that if you want
(12:42):
to leave on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, they're going to
charge you more for that flight, even if you're doing
it with points than they would have, you know, twenty
years ago. So these companies have gotten hipped to it.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But the good news is.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
If you're willing to travel on off days, you can
find the flight that you want to go to the
place you want to go for a lot less points
than you might think. And that's what these sort of
search engines are trying to help you. With a couple
other things I really like. There's one called points Path,
and this is a browser extension that goes on your
Chrome browser and it when you search on Google Flights,
(13:16):
which I still think is a great way to search
for flights, it will display how many points you need
for that flight, and it puts it right next to
the cash price, and it tells you, hey, we think
you should use points instead of paying or hey we
think you should pay cash and it's better than using
your points.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So that's really interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
And then finally there's something called the point sky, which
I referenced earlier. He has an awards versus cash calculator.
Same thing like points path, except more elaborate. You can
put in let's say you found a flight for forty
thousand points, the flight would cost you two hundred and
sixty dollars to book with cash.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
You can put those both into this calculator.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It will say, you know what, You're actually better off
paying cash because your points are worth four and seventy
two dollars saving for the next flight.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Got it all right? Rich, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
We'll catch you over the weekend eleven to two pm
eleven am to two pm on Saturday on Instagram at
rich on Tech website, richontech dot TV, and we will.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Catch you over the weekend. Thanks Bill, Take care, okay, Rich,
great show.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yes, all right, now, this is a tough one. This
is one of the things that I'm the most concerned
about is our franchise to vote. Having come to the
United States as an immigrant, and my parents love to vote,
(14:46):
and to them it was a very very important part
of their lives, and immigrants do this for the most part,
where the idea of democracy is everything. Unfortunately, we've reached
the point where there really is an attack on democracy.
I believe when the Democrats say the Republicans in this case,
(15:08):
Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And that is the argument that unless Trump wins, unless
Republicans win, it is a rigged vote. Automatically, it is
a given that it is a rigged vote. We saw
that happen in twenty twenty, and now we're going to
see it happen in a way you cannot believe. There
(15:35):
are already a slew of legal fights in the battleground states,
and what the Republicans are saying is that we are
preparing to attack the vote in every battleground state that
Trump loses, because it is by definition a rigged vote.
The Democrats are coming back and they're filing lawsuits, even
(15:59):
though every lawsuit is different in different states. So what
the Democrats position is is basically all these lawsuits are
the same, and that is not to maintain that the
votes are safe and our democracy is safeguarded. It is
for this simple purpose. If Trump loses to overturn the
vote period done. That's the beginning, that's the end, that's
(16:22):
the middle of all this. Georgia's Republican controlled state election
board is giving local officials to the power to decide
on their own whether something wrong happened during the balloting.
They have the power local officials to say, we don't
think this is a legitimate vote.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Local officials, their job is to count the votes.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
If there is an issue as to fraud, it goes
to the courts and the court makes that determination.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Not in Georgia. So you have local officials.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And by the way, the officials local local election boards
in Georgia is they decide the state election board is
five people, three to two. They decided that they were
going to be able to, in fact, determine what the
vote is. It's really scary. They're gonna do a lot
more than simply count the votes. In Michigan, Republicans are
(17:24):
suing whether the city of Detroit hired enough GOP poll workers.
In North Carolina, the allegation is that state's voter rolls
could allow non citizens to vote. Now all of these
suits look different, as I said, and the Harris campaign says,
look at the pattern tying all of them together together.
(17:47):
What's happening is that Trump and his Republican allies simply
want to sew confusion should the outcome he loses, that
it was rigged, that it was unfair took place. And
we know that was the allegation with the twenty twenty campaign.
Look at January sixth, and virtually everybody that was caught
(18:12):
and tried and convicted, they all had a universal defense.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
We were there.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To uphold the Constitution because the election was fraud it
was stolen, it was rigged. And the real scary part,
and I've said this before, and I know Republicans who
are very smart people, I just don't get it. The
majority of Republicans, like three quarters seventy one percent or something,
(18:42):
believe the vote was rigged.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
They believe the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Was rigged, that Joe Biden stole the election, and it
was the safest election, the most secure election we've ever
had in the history of the United States, even more so.
But the Republicans are already prepared to file lawsuits, seventy
three of them are ready to go.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Democrats are submitting their legal filings at least one case
at this point, arguing that the true purpose of the
GOP litigation is.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Too real simple. Let's do it overturn the election.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And here is scenario defeated Trump couldn't vote the cases
to revive his claim that he had in twenty twenty
that the election was tainted and should nullify the results.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
By the way, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Let's say they are successful in nullifying the results. You
have Kanawa Harris who is running for president.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Let's say she wins, and the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Then stop as many votes as possible in those battleground
states so she he doesn't win.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
And they can't just turn around.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean, the election officials aren't going to just turn
around and say twenty thousand votes are actually seventeen thousand votes.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I mean, you can imagine them going into.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Court instantly, and the court will order independent to audits,
and this may take months and months.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Before it's finally figured out.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know what remains president, Joe Biden. Joe Biden remains president. Now,
I don't know if those Republicans. I'm not blaming all
the Republicans believe me. I don't think the majority. Well,
I gotta tell I don't know, because if the majority
of Republicans believe the election was stolen in twenty twenty,
(20:46):
Kamala Harris wins in twenty twenty four, are they going
to believe that the election is stolen if she wins.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's almost like it's almost.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Automatic that the only fair election is a Trump win.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean, it's mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Now what R and C spokesperson Claire Zunk said, President
Trump's election integrity effort we're talking about the lawsuits that
are going to file, is dedicated to protecting every legal vote,
mitigating threats to the voting process, and securing the election.
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While Democrats continue their election interference against President Trump and
the American people, our operation is confronting their schemes preparing
for November. It is already out there. The election is rigged.
The Democrats are already rigging the elections. It already has
(21:51):
been put in place. Fraud will take place. The Democrats
are preparing the fraud. And what the Republicans are doing
is they are in fact defending America, defending the constitution.
Much like what happened on January sixth, when President Trump
at that point told Mike Pence to do the right
(22:14):
thing and defend the Constitution and not certify the electoral vote.
It's absolutely stunning. So both sides are girding for a
post election period, a contested post election period. Now it
(22:35):
could be the Democrats could try to overturn the results
of trump wins.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Maybe it's gotten to that point, and I don't know
the answer to that.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
At this point, the lawsuits that are being prepared is
stopping the RNC from going forward with attacking the election.
At this moment, the election is not being attacked by
the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Voy did that cough catch up with me? Is it
going to change? It might have. We really reached the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Point where now whatever side loses, by definition, the other
side has rigged the election.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
That's never happened before. In the history of the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It has always been the case where there was a
peaceful transfer of power.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Now was there a peaceful transfer?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well after the vote was counted, after Mike pens declared
the number of electoral votes and declared that Joe Biden
won the election, the issue came up, would former President
Trump leave the White House arguing that he was the
elected president, which he's argued to this day, that he
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is the president that was elected.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Even when he won the election.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And Joe Biden had several million votes I think seven
million votes, he had the popular vote, Trump said that
that was a lie that had not those votes been
counted for Joe Biden wrongly, he would Trump would have
won the election by a landslide, not that he lost
(24:29):
the popular vote. I mean, we're looking at some very
very tough times. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I hope this changes. I really do.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I mean truly, I've reached the point where, by definition,
when you lose it's rigged.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
In the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Of America, that you have some people saying, effectively, there's
a one party system. We should be we should do
what China does, and that is have a one party system.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Otherwise the election is rigged. It's horrific. Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
In a few minutes, the podcast drops and today is
who is Benjamin Nettan Yahoo? And that's available on the
iHeartRadio app, also available on Spotify and Apple et cetera. Also,
I am taking phone calls for handle on the law eight.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Seven seven five two zero eleven fifty. I start that a.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Few minutes after the top of the hour. I'm going
to do that off the air. And when I do
that off the air, here's what happens. Well, here's what
doesn't happen. No commercials. We don't have breaks. There's no weather,
there's no traffic. It's just me and you. And the
other thing that doesn't happen is patients. So there's no commercials,
(25:53):
no breaks, no patients. And I go through these rather quickly.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Tomorrow, kno, tomorrow, Amy is coming back right, that is correct? Okay?
And Wayne is here the entire week?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And I say it's not up on a board, so
I haven't read this. I can't read it. See, I'm
figuring this out myself. And Neil is filling in with
Marla at nine o'clock for Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, I'm filling in for Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Buddy, Oh you're oh there you are. You're on a microphone. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I didn't see you. Is Marla there? Also? No Marla
is sick? Are you by yourself by carry the one? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh okay, So we don't get that. We don't get
you often enough by yourself. And actually it's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Are you hitting on me?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, I'm not, but I want to point out for
those of you that normally don't listen, uh, it is
actually fun listening to Neil humiliate.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Himself and just blow the entire four hours. And I'm
looking forward to it. No, I've been.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I've been watching you and studying you for so long.
I've got malaprops that I'm gonna be doing. I'm gonna
be misspeaking, slurring, eating. I got it all down.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Excellent, all right, So I Handle on the law phone
calls A seven seven five two zero eleven fifty Neil
and Marla.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
No, Neil and Neil.
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Tomorrow and today and for the rest of the week.
We'll hope Marla comes back to save your ass.
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Neil.
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