September 4, 2024 • 27 mins
America isn’t ready for another war… because it doesn’t have the troops. Party of one: Restaurants are catering to a growing number of solo diners. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about a new study finding no link between cell phones and brain cancer, the best time to get your flu shot, and the Surgeon General warning that parenting is bad for your mental health.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kfi AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Kfi AM six forty Bill Handle on a Wednesday morning,
September fourth. President Biden's loan forgiveness plan being challenged in court.
Conservative states and conservative groups are filing lawsuits saying that
the plan exceeds the administration's authority. And this is after
the Supreme Court also nailed parts of it. So I
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think Kamala Harris is going to be pushing that one too,
which means tax, tax, tax, tax, and more tax.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So let me.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Give you a statement, and that is real simple. America
is not ready for another war.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Now. Are we going to war? Probably not.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We're not going to be putting boots on the ground
in the Middle East or any place else because I
think people are very leary. Countries are very leary of
going to war against the United States. But if we were,
and the United States has a reputation of being the
most trained, the best army in the world armed services.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, it doesn't have enough people.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Certainly has the technology, certainly has the munitions, certainly has
the aircraft, the carriers, the navy. It doesn't have the people.
And so we're looking at some problems if we get involved.
By the way, that's happening across the world. Israel, with
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Gaza Khamas it didn't have, doesn't have enough people if
regional war breaks out.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Israel is in a lot of trouble, and they have conscription.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They have mandatory draft in Israel men and women, but
the vast majority of the fighting force are reserves. Russia
is in the Ukrainian War. They are drafting people like crazy.
Ukraine is drafting people like crazy. Now, we got through
two foreign wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with a volunteer army,
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and we didn't win either war. A war with Russia
or China or Iran or North Korea, Well, that's going
to be a real problem.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it real?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We're probably closer to war than we have been, and
the armed services are well there, We're in trouble. We
simply don't have enough people that are willing to serve.
Matter of fact, surveys have found that the reason that
people do volunteer is for the benefits, the pay, which
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is pretty good now, the benefits in terms of college
which is pretty good now, learning a skill which is
very good. How many want to fight for their country
about say sixteen percent are looking at serving their country,
and the number of people who are.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Serving is down to a dribble. They have a horrible time.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
As a matter of fact, the only way that they have
any number of recruits is there is a huge recruiting
arm out there. When I went to college, there were
a military recruiters. Even law school they had recruiters to
go for the adjutant general core. We need lawyers in
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the service.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Would you consider it? And of course no one would.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They have to recruit like crazy. It's just a very
different world. So what happens if we get into a war?
And by the way, this is part of the wargames.
The military in the US is really struggling to bring
in enough people. They've lowered standards, they're spending a lot
more money with recruiting centers, and they're not making They
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are not making the grade. As a matter of fact,
the only service that actually has enough recruits is the Marines,
the toughest service of all now is it because they
get the people that are gung ho and want to
serve the country. Well, there's that. Also, they have reconfigured
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the need for Marines, the number that is necessary the
Pentagon says we need x number of marines is lower
than it was years ago, so it's easier to meet
the goal.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And so bonuses, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Insane bonuses are being offered twenty twenty five thousand dollars.
If someone has the skill that is necessary, particularly for
example cybersecurity or very high high tech skills, mechanical skills,
and if someone is willing to sign up for another
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six years, a six year stint, then the money is very,
very big in terms of just retention bonuses. So if
we go to war, we just don't have enough. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We weren't prepared in World War Two, but I.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Tell you, I don't think they had many recruiting centers
when the United States was attacked at Pearl Harbor. I mean,
the entire country volunteered to go. Today it's a very
different world now. Can you imagine anybody actually attacking the
United States? No, but there has to be preparation, and
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the armed services are sweating bullets. We do not have
the ability to mobilize Israel does. Russia has done it
with the draft. Israel, the entire country is in the military,
and their standing army is not able to fight a
regional war. As a matter of fact, they're standing arm
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me isn't really able to fight the Commas War. Well, no,
I don't think that's true. Let me retract that one.
They have the ability to fight the Commas War if
Hezballah weren't in northern Lebanon and its attacking Israel. So
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they have to have an entire force there. They have
to have an entire force in Syria because of the
because of the militants, because of the terrorists there. But
the bottom line is, as I look at this, it's
you know, you know, it's a different world out there.
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I mean, how many people do you know have served?
How many people you know were in the armed forces?
It used to be years ago, and this is when
I was growing up. A presidential candidate, if he had
not it was always a heat. If he had not
been in the service, that was considered a real hit.
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You couldn't do it, it was an attack. You haven't
been in the service. How many presidential candidates.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Recently have been in the service.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, certainly not President Trump, certainly not President Obama, certainly
not who else is run? George W was, but he
was in the reserves and he was flying airplanes. The
last true fighter during World War Two was George hw
a pilot who was shot down who became president all right,
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while he amos died two weeks ago. And the reason
we're pulling the story it was actually the La Times
as a story about him today and so I conflated.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
The time he died. But still a la character that
I want to share with you.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And one of the reasons I want to share his
story with you is because number one, he was a
big figure, especially here in southern California. Yeah, and I
interviewed him a few years ago and that was kind
of a fun interview. So in nineteen seventy five he
opened Famous Amus. It was a shop dedicated just to
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sell cookies.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That was unique.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That was a first, and it was in Hollywood on
the Sunset Strip, and it wasn't That's when Hollywood was
not a great place to be. There was a strip
club across the street, hanging out on the sidewalk or
sex workers.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I love that term sex workers.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
They're no longer They're no longer whores or prostitutes even
are they no no no longer hookers. Anyway, there were
sex workers across the street, runaways, still, it was quite
a location. It was blocks away from A and M
Records where he was working.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
He had an.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Office next to Quincy Jones where he had been working
in the first black talent agency to work at William
Morris the agency. And I didn't know this, and he
didn't mention that to me. He talked more about his
cookies and he did what he did. During the time
he was at William Morris. He signed a little group,
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Simon and Garfunkel. He worked with Diana Ross and the Supremes,
Dion Warwick, Sam Cook. I mean, these are massive names.
And he quit that job because of racism. Is so
unstead And then he started his management company, entertainment management
company that failed. Now how did he get into famous
Amos cookies. Well, what he would do when he would
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go and meet with clients, meet with record executives, he
would bring the plates of cookies that he bait, following
his aunt's recipe. Everybody else, of course, would hand out
vials of cocaine, which were far more popular. But the
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cookies worked and they were cheaper too, So he decided
he was going to go into a cookie shop because
the cookies were so well regarded and became famous for him.
So he went and he needed twenty five thousand dollars
in seed money, so he got easily. Marvin Gaye Helen
ready other.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Major figures to give him seed money.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now this was two years before Debbie Fields opened her
Fields Cookie Shop, where the premium cookie market became wide open.
The first major supermarket brand was Chipsyhoy that had been
launched by Nabisco only twelve years earlier, and the market
was ready for this very higher quality, bite sized cookie
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with an emphasis on taste over shelf life. And you
go to the supermarket and you buy cookies, you buy Oreos,
You'll notice that they don't expire until twenty twenty nine.
Famous Amos doesn't have preservatives. Matter of fact, Kno just
adds some Famous Amos cookies because we have in the
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machine down the hall, our little version of our seven
to eleven store. They have these little packets of Famous
Amos cookies, and I would buy them because I just
don't like chocolate chip cookies personally, I'm not a chocolate
chip cookie fan.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But if you like them, they are pretty popular.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
They're small, they're bite sized, they don't have preservatives, they're
not soft cookies. He hated soft cookies, and so he
came up with this real crispy, small cookie that just exploded.
So he placed an ad in the Hollywood Reporter and
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he announced the cookie. I mean, the guy was in
the entertainment industry, so they would place ads. His company
would place ad announcing a new movie or announcing a
new album, and he took out the same kind of
ad announcing a new cookie that had never been done before.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Famous aim as cookies.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And by the way, success was instantaneous, celebrities, counterculture people,
children's birthday parties.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He actually became the pioneer in upscale cookie.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
In the upscale cookie business, Vogue magazine said, there the
latest La rage, already sharing the taste sensation spot with
beluga caviar. They compare his cookies with beluga caviar. I
guess people that read Vogue had absolutely no taste. His
cookie was his client. His son said a couple things
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about it. As I said, he thought that a cookie
should only be large enough for just one or two bites.
He was also and I love this story very particular
about how the dough was dropped onto the cookie sheet
and he didn't shape the dough, so he just drops
it on there and that became famous amous and the
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irregular individual shape was one of his chief attributes, his
son said, And he also talked to his cookies as
he dropped the dough. Kind of an interesting guy, four kids.
He was an Air Force veteran. He died a couple
of weeks ago of pneumonia at the age of eighty eight.
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He grew up in the nineteen forties in Florida, Tallahassee,
and it was not easy to be a black man
in Florida in Tallahassee as he was growing up. But
from his mom, his mom said, you can do anything
and everything you want, which is usually the successful successful people.
To give you now an idea of what his mom
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was about.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
She would go to the front of a public.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Bus when there was still segregation and take Wally with her.
That's the kind of woman he is. So what ended
up happening is he lost the business. He made some
pretty miserable choices business choices.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
He launched it, he had to sell it. In the
early nineties.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He came out with Wally Wally Amos presence cookies that
didn't work because the owners of Famous am Has sued
him for a trademark infringement and he couldn't use his
own name because he sold his own name. It's like
the story of the McDonald brothers being enjoined from using
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the McDonald's name when Ray Croc took over that business.
Then he went to Uncle Wally's muffin company, even going
on an episode of Shark Tank in twenty sixteen, he
pitched his the hosts on his new cookie company called
Cookie Cohuna. You would think Wally Amos in front of
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the Sharks, who isn't going to back up a cookie
in Denver endeavor?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
They said no, they said absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He never replicated the success of Famous Amos.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I mean, what a character this guy was.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And as I said, I interviewed him and it was
one of the more fun interviews I had. And he
didn't even bring a bag of famous Samous cookies with him,
but by then he didn't own it, so he had
nothing to do with it. And his face, his face
is still on the cookies, isn't it. Cono, you're looking
at a bag, is his face still on there?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I think so? Uh, not on the cookie itself, on
the bag, Kono. I was looking all I'm not eating.
This is not Mother Teresa on a grilled cheese sandwich.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay, his face is not on this bag. Okay, all right,
Doctor Jim Keeney, it's time for medical news. Jim, good morning,
Good morning, Bill, Good morning, And Jim and I are
having lunch today and we are going to bad mouth
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everybody here at KFI, which we do on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Great.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, you know, he's laughing, but it's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Jim. Let's go into a couple of topics.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
One of the things, and I think this had to
be the conspiracy theorists at work, is connecting cell phones
to brain cancer. And there were studies. Now is this
the same kind of study that talked about vaccine the
same basically the same connection vaccines and autism or was
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there something here?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
No? I mean so there were, you know, lower quality studies.
There were studies done that raised concern because, for example,
people who are right handed and would have more commonly
brain cancer on the right side, and when you ask
them where they held their cell phone, they would say
they held it in their right hand or vice versa.
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And then and so when they connect those kinds of dots,
they'd say huh. It seems like brain cancers are showing
up more commonly on the side where you hold your
cell phone. So that's the studies that actually made some
weak link to brain cancer. And then you have that too.
Look in general electromagnetic radiation, there were studies that would
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look at maps and look at where if you overlay
the map of where high tension wires were with childhood leukemia,
there was some correlation between that, but other than that,
they really there was no evidence that electromagnetic radiation cause
childhood leukemia because there's kids sleeping next to outlets right
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that you don't even know a ton of power, Say
how your printer plugged in next to it, or you
have something else that's drawing a lot of power that's
just plugged in right next to the kid in the
other room, and the wires running through the walls right
next to their crib. You may not know that. And
yet there was no correlation in real life studies. So
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this study is just a conglomerate. They took as many
studies they could find, they put all the data together,
and they've decided that based on this aggregated data, there
really is no evidence that electromagnetic radiation caused brain cancer
or cell phones specifically caused brain cancer.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, but then how do you argue that, in fact,
there is a greater preponderance of brain cancer on the
right side when people put a cell phone on the
right side, and then the same thing happens on the
left side. I'm trying to figure out where the causality
doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right, Well, that's the problem, right, So association doesn't do
an equal cause. It's same like we've always talked about
the rooster crows the sun comes up. Did the rooster
make the sun come up? You know, obviously not so,
but that's a very strong correlation. And if you just
look at correlation, you may not understand really what's going on.
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So that's that's why they did take the correlation studies seriously,
and it was electromagnetic radiation and cell phones was listed
as an unknown potential cause for a carcinogen. And what
they're calling for now, after aggregating these studies, and I
was back in about twenty eleven, now they're calling for
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the governmental agencies to reclassify that because there just doesn't
Since then, there's a body of evidence that shows no correlation.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
One of the things, and you've been to my place.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Is I have some very big high tension cords not
directly over my house, but just down the street, and
I passed them. Uh, and it's we're talking about major
transition lines or major transmission lines, and it's you know,
I heard that can give you some all kinds of problems.
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I mean, you know, as soon as I moved in,
and you know, I started scratching myself and I realized
I had some.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Kind of general issues. But I'm assuming that's not a connection.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
No, there's really not a connection there. And there's there's
so many other areas people don't think about. For electromagnetic radiation.
I mean, radial tires have have wire in the tires,
and when you spin wire, you create electromagnetic field. So
all of us are driving wedged between these four electromagnetic
fields that are strongly generated as you drive. Electric cars
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have the cable you know, down the middle of it,
and many of them where the battery goes towards to
the engine, and you're exposed directly to a pretty high
level of electromagnetic radiation there. And people don't think twice
about that either. And really, again, there's there's no evidence
to suggest that these are carconans. Remember, not all radiation
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is cancer causing. We talk about ionizing radiation, which can
pass through your body and actually split you know, electrons
off of cell, off of you know, molecules, and that's
going to change your DNA. Non Ionizing radiation doesn't do that,
So it doesn't have that energy level, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Have that power.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So just because it's called radiation doesn't mean it's harmful
for the body.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So why do you wear a copper bracelet?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, I don't wear a copper bast.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, that's another group of crazies out there.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I love that copper underwear, you know, with the copper
wires through it.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
All.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Right, flu shot we talk about this every year. Both
of us are big fans of the flu shot. Now,
working in the er, you have to get a flu shot, right,
I mean there's no choice.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Certainly get one every year. Would you if you didn't
have to?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, I would get a flu shot. I mean, I
guess it depends on your situation, you know, but I can't.
There's not a lot of situations where I wouldn't get
a flu shot because you know, everyone's pretty much exposed
at some point or another. And it's you know, here,
you're on an average person's going to get it once
every ten years, so you've got to recognize that you
are getting a shot, you know, one every year for
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ten years to prevent one really bad episode of the flu.
But I think that's worth it. Yeah, absolutely before so
it really is horrible.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, over the weekend, I'm fighting a cold. But it's
a cold. With the flu.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You feel like you're gonna die. I mean it is
really a rough few days.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Isn't it. It is.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, like, and the last time I got the flu,
I remember exactly the moment it hit right you're I
was standing in the emergency room working and all of
a sudden, it feels like somebody unplugged you and then
hit you everywhere in your body with a baseball bat.
It's just not a normal cold.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And so and once you get it, all you can
do is to basically do fluids, stay in bed. There's
not much else you can do for it. Oh no,
they now have the.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
It's by viral bils. Yeah, and those worth They work
only if you start them really ideally, start them in
the first forty eight hours. Otherwise, you know, you can
start them as late as seventy two hours. But otherwise
they just don't have any effect. They don't shorten it.
They shorten the intensity of it, So I think it's
worth it. They shorten the course of the illness on average,
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you know, you're sick for about one or two days less.
That can be a big deal for people who need
to get back to work or taking care of kids
or anything like that. But it does, it really lessens
the intensity of the symptoms. So I think it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And then just one last one before we leave. I
did this story.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
The Surgeon General of the United States is warning that
parenting in and of itself can be is bad for
your mental health, and both of us I have said
that we made a huge mistake in having kids and
it has a lot to do with our mental health.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Your take on this, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
You said a lot of words ring out this morning. Yeah,
you know what, It's obviously true, right that being a
parent is extremely stressful. There's a lot that goes on
with it, and that modern society adds to that. But
I mean, this call from the Surgeon General does seem
more politically driven, right, It's it's connected to a call
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for you know, increasing the child tax credit, increasing availability
of childcare, and those type of things. So during an
election year, it just seems a little more political than medical.
But clearly, you know, being a parent has its stresses,
and when with single parents out there were with a
lot of nurses who are single moms at times, and
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you see the stress of them trying to juggle work
and home life.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, and the COVID did a lot with it too,
because you had kids at home trying to keep them busy,
trying to deal with the education. I mean, when my
little ones were little, I would just throw in in
the morning, okay, go to school, leave me alone. I'll
see at the end of the day. You can't do
that in COVID. During COVID, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You're right. And then there was you know, now a
social media and the impact that that has on our
kids and they're just dealing with these complex social issues
and emotional issues at such a young age. It just
adds to the stress.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Jim always on a Wednesday, thank you for your information.
It's always appreciated. Take care of my friend, all right.
So he just hung up on me before I had
a chance to hang up on him. Dot Cono Okay,
here's the rule. We hang up on people first.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I do not like it when people hang up on me.
All right, thank you, all right, that's rule number fourteen
here on the show.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Okay, that's it. We're done, guys.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We start again tomorrow morning Amy with wake Up Call
and then I come aboard. It's Wayne this week because
Neil is filling in for Gary and Shannon with Marla
and that's always fun. In the meantime, I can't think
of anything more other than, oh, don't forget the podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So it's now up there right now.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Who is Benjamin netting Yahu, which dropped yesterday on The
Bill Handle Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
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Kfi AM six forty Bill Handle on a Wednesday morning,
September fourth. President Biden's loan forgiveness plan being challenged in court.
Conservative states and conservative groups are filing lawsuits saying that
the plan exceeds the administration's authority. And this is after
the Supreme Court also nailed parts of it. So I
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think Kamala Harris is going to be pushing that one too,
which means tax, tax, tax, tax, and more tax.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So let me.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Give you a statement, and that is real simple. America
is not ready for another war.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Now. Are we going to war? Probably not.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We're not going to be putting boots on the ground
in the Middle East or any place else because I
think people are very leary. Countries are very leary of
going to war against the United States. But if we were,
and the United States has a reputation of being the
most trained, the best army in the world armed services.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, it doesn't have enough people.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Certainly has the technology, certainly has the munitions, certainly has
the aircraft, the carriers, the navy. It doesn't have the people.
And so we're looking at some problems if we get involved.
By the way, that's happening across the world. Israel, with
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Gaza Khamas it didn't have, doesn't have enough people if
regional war breaks out.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Israel is in a lot of trouble, and they have conscription.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They have mandatory draft in Israel men and women, but
the vast majority of the fighting force are reserves. Russia
is in the Ukrainian War. They are drafting people like crazy.
Ukraine is drafting people like crazy. Now, we got through
two foreign wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with a volunteer army,
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and we didn't win either war. A war with Russia
or China or Iran or North Korea, Well, that's going
to be a real problem.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it real?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We're probably closer to war than we have been, and
the armed services are well there, We're in trouble. We
simply don't have enough people that are willing to serve.
Matter of fact, surveys have found that the reason that
people do volunteer is for the benefits, the pay, which
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is pretty good now, the benefits in terms of college
which is pretty good now, learning a skill which is
very good. How many want to fight for their country
about say sixteen percent are looking at serving their country,
and the number of people who are.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Serving is down to a dribble. They have a horrible time.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
As a matter of fact, the only way that they have
any number of recruits is there is a huge recruiting
arm out there. When I went to college, there were
a military recruiters. Even law school they had recruiters to
go for the adjutant general core. We need lawyers in
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the service.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Would you consider it? And of course no one would.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They have to recruit like crazy. It's just a very
different world. So what happens if we get into a war?
And by the way, this is part of the wargames.
The military in the US is really struggling to bring
in enough people. They've lowered standards, they're spending a lot
more money with recruiting centers, and they're not making They
(04:03):
are not making the grade. As a matter of fact,
the only service that actually has enough recruits is the Marines,
the toughest service of all now is it because they
get the people that are gung ho and want to
serve the country. Well, there's that. Also, they have reconfigured
(04:24):
the need for Marines, the number that is necessary the
Pentagon says we need x number of marines is lower
than it was years ago, so it's easier to meet
the goal.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And so bonuses, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Insane bonuses are being offered twenty twenty five thousand dollars.
If someone has the skill that is necessary, particularly for
example cybersecurity or very high high tech skills, mechanical skills,
and if someone is willing to sign up for another
(04:57):
six years, a six year stint, then the money is very,
very big in terms of just retention bonuses. So if
we go to war, we just don't have enough. Now.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We weren't prepared in World War Two, but I.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Tell you, I don't think they had many recruiting centers
when the United States was attacked at Pearl Harbor. I mean,
the entire country volunteered to go. Today it's a very
different world now. Can you imagine anybody actually attacking the
United States? No, but there has to be preparation, and
(05:36):
the armed services are sweating bullets. We do not have
the ability to mobilize Israel does. Russia has done it
with the draft. Israel, the entire country is in the military,
and their standing army is not able to fight a
regional war. As a matter of fact, they're standing arm
(06:00):
me isn't really able to fight the Commas War. Well, no,
I don't think that's true. Let me retract that one.
They have the ability to fight the Commas War if
Hezballah weren't in northern Lebanon and its attacking Israel. So
(06:20):
they have to have an entire force there. They have
to have an entire force in Syria because of the
because of the militants, because of the terrorists there. But
the bottom line is, as I look at this, it's
you know, you know, it's a different world out there.
(06:41):
I mean, how many people do you know have served?
How many people you know were in the armed forces?
It used to be years ago, and this is when
I was growing up. A presidential candidate, if he had
not it was always a heat. If he had not
been in the service, that was considered a real hit.
(07:02):
You couldn't do it, it was an attack. You haven't
been in the service. How many presidential candidates.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Recently have been in the service.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well, certainly not President Trump, certainly not President Obama, certainly
not who else is run? George W was, but he
was in the reserves and he was flying airplanes. The
last true fighter during World War Two was George hw
a pilot who was shot down who became president all right,
(07:37):
while he amos died two weeks ago. And the reason
we're pulling the story it was actually the La Times
as a story about him today and so I conflated.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
The time he died. But still a la character that
I want to share with you.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And one of the reasons I want to share his
story with you is because number one, he was a
big figure, especially here in southern California. Yeah, and I
interviewed him a few years ago and that was kind
of a fun interview. So in nineteen seventy five he
opened Famous Amus. It was a shop dedicated just to
(08:14):
sell cookies.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That was unique.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That was a first, and it was in Hollywood on
the Sunset Strip, and it wasn't That's when Hollywood was
not a great place to be. There was a strip
club across the street, hanging out on the sidewalk or
sex workers.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I love that term sex workers.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
They're no longer They're no longer whores or prostitutes even
are they no no no longer hookers. Anyway, there were
sex workers across the street, runaways, still, it was quite
a location. It was blocks away from A and M
Records where he was working.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
He had an.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Office next to Quincy Jones where he had been working
in the first black talent agency to work at William
Morris the agency. And I didn't know this, and he
didn't mention that to me. He talked more about his
cookies and he did what he did. During the time
he was at William Morris. He signed a little group,
(09:16):
Simon and Garfunkel. He worked with Diana Ross and the Supremes,
Dion Warwick, Sam Cook. I mean, these are massive names.
And he quit that job because of racism. Is so
unstead And then he started his management company, entertainment management
company that failed. Now how did he get into famous
Amos cookies. Well, what he would do when he would
(09:40):
go and meet with clients, meet with record executives, he
would bring the plates of cookies that he bait, following
his aunt's recipe. Everybody else, of course, would hand out
vials of cocaine, which were far more popular. But the
(10:01):
cookies worked and they were cheaper too, So he decided
he was going to go into a cookie shop because
the cookies were so well regarded and became famous for him.
So he went and he needed twenty five thousand dollars
in seed money, so he got easily. Marvin Gaye Helen
ready other.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Major figures to give him seed money.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now this was two years before Debbie Fields opened her
Fields Cookie Shop, where the premium cookie market became wide open.
The first major supermarket brand was Chipsyhoy that had been
launched by Nabisco only twelve years earlier, and the market
was ready for this very higher quality, bite sized cookie
(10:48):
with an emphasis on taste over shelf life. And you
go to the supermarket and you buy cookies, you buy Oreos,
You'll notice that they don't expire until twenty twenty nine.
Famous Amos doesn't have preservatives. Matter of fact, Kno just
adds some Famous Amos cookies because we have in the
(11:09):
machine down the hall, our little version of our seven
to eleven store. They have these little packets of Famous
Amos cookies, and I would buy them because I just
don't like chocolate chip cookies personally, I'm not a chocolate
chip cookie fan.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But if you like them, they are pretty popular.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
They're small, they're bite sized, they don't have preservatives, they're
not soft cookies. He hated soft cookies, and so he
came up with this real crispy, small cookie that just exploded.
So he placed an ad in the Hollywood Reporter and
(11:54):
he announced the cookie. I mean, the guy was in
the entertainment industry, so they would place ads. His company
would place ad announcing a new movie or announcing a
new album, and he took out the same kind of
ad announcing a new cookie that had never been done before.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Famous aim as cookies.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And by the way, success was instantaneous, celebrities, counterculture people,
children's birthday parties.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He actually became the pioneer in upscale cookie.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
In the upscale cookie business, Vogue magazine said, there the
latest La rage, already sharing the taste sensation spot with
beluga caviar. They compare his cookies with beluga caviar. I
guess people that read Vogue had absolutely no taste. His
cookie was his client. His son said a couple things
(12:51):
about it. As I said, he thought that a cookie
should only be large enough for just one or two bites.
He was also and I love this story very particular
about how the dough was dropped onto the cookie sheet
and he didn't shape the dough, so he just drops
it on there and that became famous amous and the
(13:15):
irregular individual shape was one of his chief attributes, his
son said, And he also talked to his cookies as
he dropped the dough. Kind of an interesting guy, four kids.
He was an Air Force veteran. He died a couple
of weeks ago of pneumonia at the age of eighty eight.
(13:36):
He grew up in the nineteen forties in Florida, Tallahassee,
and it was not easy to be a black man
in Florida in Tallahassee as he was growing up. But
from his mom, his mom said, you can do anything
and everything you want, which is usually the successful successful people.
To give you now an idea of what his mom
(13:57):
was about.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
She would go to the front of a public.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Bus when there was still segregation and take Wally with her.
That's the kind of woman he is. So what ended
up happening is he lost the business. He made some
pretty miserable choices business choices.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
He launched it, he had to sell it. In the
early nineties.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
He came out with Wally Wally Amos presence cookies that
didn't work because the owners of Famous am Has sued
him for a trademark infringement and he couldn't use his
own name because he sold his own name. It's like
the story of the McDonald brothers being enjoined from using
(14:44):
the McDonald's name when Ray Croc took over that business.
Then he went to Uncle Wally's muffin company, even going
on an episode of Shark Tank in twenty sixteen, he
pitched his the hosts on his new cookie company called
Cookie Cohuna. You would think Wally Amos in front of
(15:08):
the Sharks, who isn't going to back up a cookie
in Denver endeavor?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
They said no, they said absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He never replicated the success of Famous Amos.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I mean, what a character this guy was.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And as I said, I interviewed him and it was
one of the more fun interviews I had. And he
didn't even bring a bag of famous Samous cookies with him,
but by then he didn't own it, so he had
nothing to do with it. And his face, his face
is still on the cookies, isn't it. Cono, you're looking
at a bag, is his face still on there?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I think so? Uh, not on the cookie itself, on
the bag, Kono. I was looking all I'm not eating.
This is not Mother Teresa on a grilled cheese sandwich.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay, his face is not on this bag. Okay, all right,
Doctor Jim Keeney, it's time for medical news. Jim, good morning,
Good morning, Bill, Good morning, And Jim and I are
having lunch today and we are going to bad mouth
(16:18):
everybody here at KFI, which we do on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Great.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, you know, he's laughing, but it's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Jim. Let's go into a couple of topics.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
One of the things, and I think this had to
be the conspiracy theorists at work, is connecting cell phones
to brain cancer. And there were studies. Now is this
the same kind of study that talked about vaccine the
same basically the same connection vaccines and autism or was
(16:52):
there something here?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
No? I mean so there were, you know, lower quality studies.
There were studies done that raised concern because, for example,
people who are right handed and would have more commonly
brain cancer on the right side, and when you ask
them where they held their cell phone, they would say
they held it in their right hand or vice versa.
(17:16):
And then and so when they connect those kinds of dots,
they'd say huh. It seems like brain cancers are showing
up more commonly on the side where you hold your
cell phone. So that's the studies that actually made some
weak link to brain cancer. And then you have that too.
Look in general electromagnetic radiation, there were studies that would
(17:37):
look at maps and look at where if you overlay
the map of where high tension wires were with childhood leukemia,
there was some correlation between that, but other than that,
they really there was no evidence that electromagnetic radiation cause
childhood leukemia because there's kids sleeping next to outlets right
(17:58):
that you don't even know a ton of power, Say
how your printer plugged in next to it, or you
have something else that's drawing a lot of power that's
just plugged in right next to the kid in the
other room, and the wires running through the walls right
next to their crib. You may not know that. And
yet there was no correlation in real life studies. So
(18:20):
this study is just a conglomerate. They took as many
studies they could find, they put all the data together,
and they've decided that based on this aggregated data, there
really is no evidence that electromagnetic radiation caused brain cancer
or cell phones specifically caused brain cancer.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, but then how do you argue that, in fact,
there is a greater preponderance of brain cancer on the
right side when people put a cell phone on the
right side, and then the same thing happens on the
left side. I'm trying to figure out where the causality
doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right, Well, that's the problem, right, So association doesn't do
an equal cause. It's same like we've always talked about
the rooster crows the sun comes up. Did the rooster
make the sun come up? You know, obviously not so,
but that's a very strong correlation. And if you just
look at correlation, you may not understand really what's going on.
(19:17):
So that's that's why they did take the correlation studies seriously,
and it was electromagnetic radiation and cell phones was listed
as an unknown potential cause for a carcinogen. And what
they're calling for now, after aggregating these studies, and I
was back in about twenty eleven, now they're calling for
(19:40):
the governmental agencies to reclassify that because there just doesn't
Since then, there's a body of evidence that shows no correlation.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
One of the things, and you've been to my place.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Is I have some very big high tension cords not
directly over my house, but just down the street, and
I passed them. Uh, and it's we're talking about major
transition lines or major transmission lines, and it's you know,
I heard that can give you some all kinds of problems.
(20:14):
I mean, you know, as soon as I moved in,
and you know, I started scratching myself and I realized
I had some.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Kind of general issues. But I'm assuming that's not a connection.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
No, there's really not a connection there. And there's there's
so many other areas people don't think about. For electromagnetic radiation.
I mean, radial tires have have wire in the tires,
and when you spin wire, you create electromagnetic field. So
all of us are driving wedged between these four electromagnetic
fields that are strongly generated as you drive. Electric cars
(20:46):
have the cable you know, down the middle of it,
and many of them where the battery goes towards to
the engine, and you're exposed directly to a pretty high
level of electromagnetic radiation there. And people don't think twice
about that either. And really, again, there's there's no evidence
to suggest that these are carconans. Remember, not all radiation
(21:09):
is cancer causing. We talk about ionizing radiation, which can
pass through your body and actually split you know, electrons
off of cell, off of you know, molecules, and that's
going to change your DNA. Non Ionizing radiation doesn't do that,
So it doesn't have that energy level, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Have that power.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So just because it's called radiation doesn't mean it's harmful
for the body.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So why do you wear a copper bracelet?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, I don't wear a copper bast.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, that's another group of crazies out there.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I love that copper underwear, you know, with the copper
wires through it.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
All.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Right, flu shot we talk about this every year. Both
of us are big fans of the flu shot. Now,
working in the er, you have to get a flu shot, right,
I mean there's no choice.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Certainly get one every year. Would you if you didn't
have to?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, I would get a flu shot. I mean, I
guess it depends on your situation, you know, but I can't.
There's not a lot of situations where I wouldn't get
a flu shot because you know, everyone's pretty much exposed
at some point or another. And it's you know, here,
you're on an average person's going to get it once
every ten years, so you've got to recognize that you
are getting a shot, you know, one every year for
(22:28):
ten years to prevent one really bad episode of the flu.
But I think that's worth it. Yeah, absolutely before so
it really is horrible.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, over the weekend, I'm fighting a cold. But it's
a cold. With the flu.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You feel like you're gonna die. I mean it is
really a rough few days.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Isn't it. It is.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, like, and the last time I got the flu,
I remember exactly the moment it hit right you're I
was standing in the emergency room working and all of
a sudden, it feels like somebody unplugged you and then
hit you everywhere in your body with a baseball bat.
It's just not a normal cold.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And so and once you get it, all you can
do is to basically do fluids, stay in bed. There's
not much else you can do for it. Oh no,
they now have the.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
It's by viral bils. Yeah, and those worth They work
only if you start them really ideally, start them in
the first forty eight hours. Otherwise, you know, you can
start them as late as seventy two hours. But otherwise
they just don't have any effect. They don't shorten it.
They shorten the intensity of it, So I think it's
worth it. They shorten the course of the illness on average,
(23:45):
you know, you're sick for about one or two days less.
That can be a big deal for people who need
to get back to work or taking care of kids
or anything like that. But it does, it really lessens
the intensity of the symptoms. So I think it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And then just one last one before we leave. I
did this story.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
The Surgeon General of the United States is warning that
parenting in and of itself can be is bad for
your mental health, and both of us I have said
that we made a huge mistake in having kids and
it has a lot to do with our mental health.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Your take on this, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
You said a lot of words ring out this morning. Yeah,
you know what, It's obviously true, right that being a
parent is extremely stressful. There's a lot that goes on
with it, and that modern society adds to that. But
I mean, this call from the Surgeon General does seem
more politically driven, right, It's it's connected to a call
(24:43):
for you know, increasing the child tax credit, increasing availability
of childcare, and those type of things. So during an
election year, it just seems a little more political than medical.
But clearly, you know, being a parent has its stresses,
and when with single parents out there were with a
lot of nurses who are single moms at times, and
(25:06):
you see the stress of them trying to juggle work
and home life.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, and the COVID did a lot with it too,
because you had kids at home trying to keep them busy,
trying to deal with the education. I mean, when my
little ones were little, I would just throw in in
the morning, okay, go to school, leave me alone. I'll
see at the end of the day. You can't do
that in COVID. During COVID, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You're right. And then there was you know, now a
social media and the impact that that has on our
kids and they're just dealing with these complex social issues
and emotional issues at such a young age. It just
adds to the stress.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Jim always on a Wednesday, thank you for your information.
It's always appreciated. Take care of my friend, all right.
So he just hung up on me before I had
a chance to hang up on him. Dot Cono Okay,
here's the rule. We hang up on people first.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I do not like it when people hang up on me.
All right, thank you, all right, that's rule number fourteen
here on the show.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Okay, that's it. We're done, guys.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We start again tomorrow morning Amy with wake Up Call
and then I come aboard. It's Wayne this week because
Neil is filling in for Gary and Shannon with Marla
and that's always fun. In the meantime, I can't think
of anything more other than, oh, don't forget the podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So it's now up there right now.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Who is Benjamin netting Yahu, which dropped yesterday on The
Bill Handle Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
All right, guys, catch in the morning.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
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