September 5, 2024 • 28 mins
Host of ‘How to Money’ on KFI Joel Larsgaard joins the show to talk about pennies being worthless, but we continue to produce them, the American dream becoming too expensive, and geographic arbitrage. DOJ alleges Russia funded US company linked to Tim Pool and Benny Johnson. Young people are taking over the workplace, and that’s a problem for bosses
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're list Saints KFI AM six forty the bill handles
show on demand on the iheartradiop and this is KFI
AM six forty bill handle on a Thursday morning, September fifth.
The big story we're covering, and we're hearing a lot
of that over the next day or two. The mass
shooting yesterday at a Georgia high school.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Fourteen year old.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Stewart student comes into a class with an assault weapon
and kills two fourteen year old students that were.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
In his class or the class next door, and kills
two teachers.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And he's being charged as an adult at fourteen, which
is kind of interesting. I'm sure we're going to talk
about that a little bit more and you'll hear more
about it throughout the day. So it is eight o'clock
on a Thursday, which means it is time for money matters. Actually,
how to Money with Joel Larsgard heard Sunday's twelve pm
(00:53):
to two pm right here on KFI and his social
address is at how to Money Joel.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Morning, Joel, what'n a bill? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
A couple of the stories I want to share with you,
and this is what Joel usually produces. The stories we
want to talk about so one of them, well, pennies. Now,
not only do pennies come from heaven, they're also worth nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, and why do we still have pennies? It makes
no sense.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
At all at all. Yeah, it's kind of frustrating. And
I was interesting to see this incredibly long form article
in the New York Times, Like it was ridiculously long,
just trashing the penny. And I am all for this.
Let's trash the penny until it finally goes away. And
what the Times was suggesting, which is completely true and
people have suggested over the past twenty or so years
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because I guess maybe like when a soda used to
cost a nickel and then it bumps up to six cents,
like the penny is something precious then, But when you
think about what inflation has done, why do we not
get rid of some of these lower denominations like the penny,
particularly which costs more to produce than it is actually worth.
I mean, there's so many reasons to get rid of
the penny. We haven't done it. Canada got rid of
(02:06):
the penny like eleven years ago, and yet we're still
here producing minting is.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Nobody uses the other day, I was at a fast
food establishment. I remember what, but it came to the
bill came to something and ninety nine cents yep, and
or ten oh one or whatever, and the person behind
the counter who should be fired wouldn't eat a penny.
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I got ninety nine cents worth of change, four pennies
and quarters.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I know, the answer is easy. You just round
up or round down.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Right, And that's it.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
When you think about the fact too, that we paid
digitally so much more of these days that we could
essentially eradicate it from yea, from almost every digital transaction.
When it comes to a physical in person transaction, we
literally could just round up a round down at the
end of the day, like nobody cares if they get
shisted from two pennies because it's essentially has no consequence.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
It's worth so little at this point in time, So.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Why why is it still around when it makes no
logical sense at all to keep it?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So I think the reason is, and this is kind
of what the New York Times was suggesting.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I think they're spot on on.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This is that we are so dysfunctional as a society
that we cannot make basic choices like eradicating the penny
that are self evidently ridiculously intelligent. We just have an
inability to do anything productive in this country. And so
I think that's it. I think that really would have
come to Certain politicians have suggested it. I remember that
was part of Andrew Yang's platform when he was running
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for president as a Democrat, was like, eradicate the penny.
But we don't really talk about serious issues, and we're
so dysfunctional that we can't even get rid of a
penny that nobody cares about, nobody wants.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Sometimes you wonder, well, you wonder that why and what
Congress is doing and they could actually do something that
makes sense. God forbid they do that all right, switching
gears and talking about the American dream and how it
really isn't there anymore. I happen to be reading right
(04:13):
now Hillbilly Elogy by JD.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Vance. It's actually now I think he's sort of crazy.
You know, he's a Trump shill, But this book that
he wrote.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Talks a lot about the American dream and how in
this case Appalacia where it just doesn't exist, or Appalachia
it just doesn't exist, and.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
The reality is there.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They've accepted it, which is why they basically don't trust
government at all.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They don't trust society at all.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But even in places like southern California, where you came
here because of the American Dream gone.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And when you say gone, typically what that means, especially
in a place like southern California, is that it's too
expensive for almost anyone to actually live out the American
dream as we you know, our forefathers and as our
parents kind of tended to live out in You're right,
I mean, especially in southern California. There's this new study
from go Banking Rates, and it was talking about, well,
how much does it actually cost to live the American
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dream across the United States? And in some places you
would think Mississippi, Arkansas, some of those rural southern places,
it's a whole lot cheaper, less than half as expensive
as it is to live out that American dream in California.
In California basically takes a quarter of a million dollars
a year in order to live quote unquote the American dream.
Because it's man life is really expensive. We talk about inflation,
(05:43):
that's certainly part of it. But I do want to
just highlight one thing that's really important to note. When
you're looking at these numbers. We talk about the rate
of inflation, and essentially, over the past decade or so,
the American Dream costs something like thirty six percent more.
The one thing that never gets talked about is the
fact that household income has grown more than the cost
of the American Dream has increased. So there is some
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truth to the fact that the American Dream is harder
to afford for many many people. But it's also important
to note that overall household finances are not as bad
off as some people would like suggest. We read something
like a headline number of how much credit card debt
Americans are in it passes a trillion, and then one
point one trillion.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
We're like, oh my gosh, this is so bad.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
When you look at the inflation adjusted number, it's actually
not as bad as you would assume it is. Granted,
I'm the kind of guy who wants zero credit card debt,
so I hate it no matter what. But it's just
important that like big number of scare people, and when
we see a study like this, it makes it seem
like the American Dream is completely out of reach. I
just don't know that that's complete case, but it is
also haves and haves notts.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, Okay, but let's be fair for a moment when
you talk about the it's the American dream is not
that far off because you have to household income is
beating inflation. When we had nine percent inflation a year
a year and a half ago, you weren't getting nine percent.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Raises true that I want to.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Finish up about the American dream, especially here in southern California,
because it's insanely expensive and I'm guessing that housing is
completely out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Of control is one big reason. That may be the
biggest reason.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And of course, our tax rate is delightfully low California
in general, we're very proud of being number one, and
we certainly are number one in terms of taxes. Now,
the American Dream is the hardest here in southern California,
probably New York. But let's go to Tennessee, Let's go
to Mississippi where it costs half as much to live there,
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and are the wages half as much?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Not necessarily, right, I mean so so much depends on
where you're going inside of those states. And the truth
is that the major discreptancy typically is city first rural,
and as you're reading he'bili elogy, you're seeing that like,
there's something about rural America where there's less opportunity, there's
less access to high speed internet where you can even
work remotely and get those jobs. And granted, things are changing,
(08:02):
and we're seeing even like new satellite internet services spring
up that are making it possible for people to live
all across the country and get access to jobs they
wouldn't otherwise have had access to.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
But then the.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Flip reverse of that also is the case, and so
you might have moved to a place like Los Angeles
for opportunity and realize that some of those jobs are
actually getting farmed out to people who live in other
parts of the country where it costs less, and they
might be able to pay those people less. So it's
just like double edged sword, this geographic arbage.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, how prevalent is that.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Let's say you're in tech and you have a great
job and you're making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year, which by the way, is not a lot
of money in southern California, as crazy as it is,
you're not living it's that you're not living in an
upper middle class life with one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, even with rent or trying to maintain
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a household or buying a house, that becomes impossible. So
you get your one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
year and you can work at home because you're in.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Tech, and you move to a rural area in.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Georgia right where you know, I know, you know how
many recipes for squirrel do you.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Think they have at the local community center. It's just cheaper.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But employers are saying, why would I pay you one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars if you're sitting out in
for for from land over there and you're hunting for
your own food.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And that's exactly that's exactly what's happening. In the beginning
of the pandemic, we saw that employers were saying, like, listen, yes,
of course, you can't come into the office. You can
be anywhere, I guess, and do it. For the folks
who could the laptop class, I guess. For the folks
who could work remotely, it was like, sure, go do
your thing, work wherever you want. And then we started
to see some of the big tech companies say where
are you living again, because we're going to adjust your
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salary based on the cost of living where you work.
And now we're seeing even more pay cuts. I think
for the Wall Street Journal documented this this week that
in a softening labor economy, we're seeing like actual waves
cuts in some industries, and part of it is going
to be based on where you work, and part of
it's going to be based on the fact that these
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employers can hire people that don't have to be specific
to a location. And I think part of what's going
to make you more valuable as an employee is if
you are specific to a location, being in the office.
There's something It's so much harder to fire a person
right that you see every day at the water cooler
who's producing, than it is to fire the person that
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you see on a zoom call once a month.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So just be thoughtful about that.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Hey, maybe you don't have to go into the office, right,
but it might be beneficial for your career and for your
future income to be going into the office at least
with some regularity.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
By the way, I have no problem firing people in person,
absolutely none. And the last couple of people that I
fired in this, I'm going to give to this advice
that I'm going to give to everybody who has to
fire someone, And that is what I do. And I
start with I used to start with, if this is
going to be harder for me than it is for you,
(11:09):
And the person I was firing said, that is a croc.
Don't say that, that is a lie, because at the
end of this conversation, You're going to have a job
and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And I said, you know what, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So I now start with, at the end of this conversation,
I'm going to have a job and you're not. And
doing that in person is so much better than doing
that over the internet.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But let me ask you this, how prevalent.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Is it that employers are now taking into account the
various places where you are living when you leave and
I'm assuming in jobs that are really high tech and
you're wanted too bad, you know, I'm just going to
keep the difference.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean it depends on what your
skill set is and how much appeal you have to
that particular employer, how much do they need you, And
so this comes down to knowing what you have, knowing
the hand you're holding and being able to then play
that accordingly with your employer. Yeah, I think it is
happening more, but I think now it's less like, hey,
(12:14):
wait a second, you've been working for Facebook for three years.
Now we see that you move to a cheaper place
in Idaho, So now we're going to deduct your pay.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's typically more.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
About like when they're hiring new people, they care less
about the fact that you're nearby, and so they can
actually lower the And we're seeing more of these, like
these states forcing these companies to list what they're going
to pay in particular, and so we're seeing just to
pay for some of these positions dropping across the board
because they can hire somebody that's not necessarily in Silicon
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Valley or in Los Angeles. They're able to hire people
who have similar skills somewhere else, and so they can
just drop the pay for the position because people from
other locations are just going to be just as interested
in that job.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Hey, I don't know if you know the answer this one,
but where is it the most affordable decent place to
live in this country? And I'm not talking about living
in a coal mine, just you know, a place that's
reasonable and you can buy a house or rent a place.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do we know? Do you know where that is?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Okay, what's your definition of decent because some people would
say that Mississippi, when you look at this, is like
the best place to live according to costs. Are you
talking about being close to a big city.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know there's too many variables there. Okay, I'll buy that.
So that's an impossible question.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
People would say rural Arkansas, which will actually pay you
to move there. Some parts of Arkansas it's like the
best for like mountain biking and outdoors and stuff like that,
and that's one of the cheapest places to live, and
so you know, people have That's the other thing about
this too, is that people have different ideas of what
the American dream is. And so when you're looking at
what maybe the American dream is to live rurally and
live unless it makes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Sense that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I wouldn't move to a rural area because I hate
the outside. I don't hike, I don't go to the beach,
I don't like the mountains, but I also hate the inside,
and that becomes really problematic.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Joel does, yes, it does you know? I welcome to
southern California.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
All right, we'll catch you next week and then this
Sunday from twelve to two.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Have a good one, Joel you bill.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
All Right, You've got a restaurant and the hostess person,
whether it's a male or female hostess, will ask you
how many in your party? And if you say party
of one, all of a sudden, that smile goes the
other way.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Really, you're taking.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Up a table, is what they're thinking. And you walk
in the door. That is a thing now. More and
more people are eating alone at restaurants.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I don't like it, but I.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Have I bring out my book, Oh that really thrills them.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Or I bring out my phone, which a lot of
people do.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
And maybe because people have access to everybody, they're actually
talking to people and they're not across the table. They're
talking to friends or family members or coworkers. And just
a couple of a couple of stats I want to
throw at you. In the US, solo dining reservations have
gone up twenty nine percent in the last two years,
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according to Open Table. It's up eighteen percent this year
in Germany, fourteen percent in the United Kingdom. Japan, where
this is really exploding even has a special term for
solo dining. Oh he told Sama, oh he todi Sama
translated means remember pearl harbor. No, what it actually means
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is dining alone, but not in a pejorative sense with
the honorifics. Just it's just something that people do. A
recent survey this is hilarious and this is the name
of this organization, Japan's Hot Pepper Gourmety Eating Out Research Institute.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I mean, that's real. I'm not making that up.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Found that twenty three percent of Japanese people eat out alone,
and that's up from eighteen percent in twenty eighteen. So
what's happening. Well, restaurants, particularly in Japan. This has to
do a lot with Japan. This is an AP News
story and it came.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Out of Japan.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Restaurants in Japan and around the world are redoing their seating,
changing menus, adding special touches to appeal to solo diners.
And why you know why, Well, if you talk to
Open Table CEO Wi Su, she starts giving you reasons
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why this is the case. One reason is that people
who work from home just want to get out of
their house. And if you are the breadwinner, let's say
a spouse works someplace that has to be there and
you're at home.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You know what, you just want to get out.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You're gonna grab lunch someplace else and by yourself. She
also says there are other reasons too, a broader movement
of self love and self care.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's assuming you have some kind of self esteem. I
have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
The pandemic really changed everything.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I have said this many many times, and that is
we don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Two things. We have no idea of the implication.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
One is ai okay, no idea none, and the other
one is studying the effects of the pandemic, how it
has changed and the long term effects. For example, education
are young people who were especially here in California where
we were, we went way too far.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
In at home learning.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
How that affects you your whole life, basically losing a
year year and a half of school and doing it
at home, which very few people do well. Now, as
I said, is it easy to It used to be
almost impossible.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
To eat alone. It's horrible. I mean people were lonely,
they didn't have anybody else.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now it's you know, you bring out your phone, and
it's like talking to other people you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Also, more people are living alone.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Now that's a double hit because you have people that
don't have money who have to have roommates and intergenerational living, and.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Then people who do Okay, more of those people are
living alone.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Pew Research thirty eight percent of US adults twenty five
to fifty four living without a partner. That's up from
twenty nine percent in nineteen ninety. By the way, in Japan,
back we go to Japan, single households now make up
one third of the total and that's going to climb
to forty twenty forty. Also, solo travel. I know someone
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used to work at KFI, a friend of mine, and
she travels by herself. She does, and a lot of
people do that now. Now, restaurants aren't normally thrilled to
seat a single diner at a table because that's half
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a bill and that's not wonderful. Matter of fact, what
they really like is take a table for two and
bring a third share.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's when they have fun.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
But there are restaurants that are catering to single diners
and here's what they do.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And I go to a couple of these restaurants.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
There is a communal table where if you're by yourself,
they go, hey, would you or you have to sit
at a communal table. There's a restaurant I go to.
It's a breakfast place and they have tables, and if
you're by yourself, they have one long table with benches
on both sides, and it's a communal table. It sits
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ten people on each side. And sometimes you're asked, and
sometimes people do it. We'd rather sit at a communal
table because if you go out to eat with someone
that's in your family or someone you know, you know what,
what if you don't like them? In my case, what
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if you don't want to be near those people. You
want to eat by yourself. Now it's okay. You know
it used to be when people eat we're eating alone.
There was something wrong with them. This is an antisocial person?
Do they have no one else to eat with? And
you feel sorry for those people? I remember that. Now
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when you see someone eating alone, you know what, do
you think.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Actually, I still feel sorry for those people?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Amy or you see someone eating alone, do you think
that it's it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's a thing that it's now just accepted.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I think it's more acceptable for me. It's it's still
a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's. And people are and restaurants
are changing their menus. Now here's a regular menu, and
here is our menu for single people, and it's labeled
the loser menu.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You know, it's worse.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Worse is watching people sitting at a table together who
never say a word to each other. That's more uncomfortable
to me than eating alone.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
No, no, that's just the definition of marriage. See I
don't know that, because that's just that's easy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
All right, We're done with that now. I'm going to
end with another workplace story. I love doing workplace stories.
Why when I first of all, i've met both an
employer still am I have been an employee for example here,
and I'd like to look at how life has changed
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so dramatically. And one of the changes is we have
gen Z workers are now outnumbering baby boomers. I'm a
baby boomer, and we exploded in terms of the population
after World War Two. I mean, clearly, no one was
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getting laid during World War two, and after the war,
all of a sudden, everybody discovered sex. So here come
the baby boomers, huge population and companies are finding now
their youngest employees are the most difficult to work with.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Read gen Z and executives.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I have to figure out what we're going to do
mentorship for employees who are entering the workforce. Why because
they were remote during the pandemic. So even someone who's
worked for a couple of years in a company and
work remotely is being introduced to the office. And it's
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a whole new set of social skills that needed, like
talking to people, like running into them in the hall,
having conversations one on one with bosses in the office.
And each new generation coming up confuses corporate management. They
just don't know how to deal with it until they
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figure it out.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And what the new generation of gen ze ers want.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is not the traditional stuff. What they want is what
you know. Business school teaches out. I was in business
school before I went to law school, before I was
kicked out of business school, which is true. And one
of the things we studied was in companies that hire
new people or try to keep new people. It's not
money that does it. I mean, money is great, but
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that goes away pretty quickly. People get used to more money.
What matters is validation, feeling important, feeling like management cares
and they care about you. That's far more important, and
particularly now with gen Z. You know, when I was working,
I started working, I mean I worked for bosses, you know,
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And do they care about me, being involved in me
at having validation?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Bill you're a good guy.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Not particularly now it is critical, absolutely critical with employees.
And again because in a great part because of remote
work and so last summer secrecy Financial credit Card company
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has dozens of gen Z hires.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You know what they want.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They want to feel important. They wanted on site therapy. Now,
twenty years ago it was a gym. Remember that was
it's important, bean bag chairs, places to hang out.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Now it's therapy. What does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
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Yes, sir, I am here, yeah, and so is Marla. Yeah,
and we're going to do a show. Look at us.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, not awkward at all, buddy, No, no, not at all.
Now here's the good news about for those of us
that can work remotely. There's no amy can't and kono can't.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Muscle took.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We prefar you outside, all right, Neil, what's going on
with you and Marla today?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Well that we got heat definitely coming in goodness, And
you know what, we have a story coming out of
Long Beach about of school with no possible way to
help with the heat.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Some crazy stories coming up shortly.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
We also are going to be talking about, of course,
the shooting in the Georgia High school. And what we
know now about the shooter is information slowly comes out.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Fourteen year old, scary story.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I know everybody's focusing on the type of gun he used,
but there's a lot more to it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Bill talked about this earlier today, the fact that he
was questioned by the FBI, Yeah, when he was third
year ago.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah, so we'll get into all that more fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You got it that's coming up, And it's what's his face?
Neil and Marla filling in for Gary and Shannon in
just a moment and phone calls eight seven seven, five
to zero eleven fifty handle on the law off the
air and I'll.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Hit them very quick. Calls coming in or I'll be
very quick about those calls.
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AM six forty bill handle on a Thursday morning, September fifth.
The big story we're covering, and we're hearing a lot
of that over the next day or two. The mass
shooting yesterday at a Georgia high school.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Fourteen year old.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Stewart student comes into a class with an assault weapon
and kills two fourteen year old students that were.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
In his class or the class next door, and kills
two teachers.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And he's being charged as an adult at fourteen, which
is kind of interesting. I'm sure we're going to talk
about that a little bit more and you'll hear more
about it throughout the day. So it is eight o'clock
on a Thursday, which means it is time for money matters. Actually,
how to Money with Joel Larsgard heard Sunday's twelve pm
(00:53):
to two pm right here on KFI and his social
address is at how to Money Joel.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Morning, Joel, what'n a bill? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
A couple of the stories I want to share with you,
and this is what Joel usually produces. The stories we
want to talk about so one of them, well, pennies. Now,
not only do pennies come from heaven, they're also worth nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, and why do we still have pennies? It makes
no sense.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
At all at all. Yeah, it's kind of frustrating. And
I was interesting to see this incredibly long form article
in the New York Times, Like it was ridiculously long,
just trashing the penny. And I am all for this.
Let's trash the penny until it finally goes away. And
what the Times was suggesting, which is completely true and
people have suggested over the past twenty or so years
(01:45):
because I guess maybe like when a soda used to
cost a nickel and then it bumps up to six cents,
like the penny is something precious then, But when you
think about what inflation has done, why do we not
get rid of some of these lower denominations like the penny,
particularly which costs more to produce than it is actually worth.
I mean, there's so many reasons to get rid of
the penny. We haven't done it. Canada got rid of
(02:06):
the penny like eleven years ago, and yet we're still
here producing minting is.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Nobody uses the other day, I was at a fast
food establishment. I remember what, but it came to the
bill came to something and ninety nine cents yep, and
or ten oh one or whatever, and the person behind
the counter who should be fired wouldn't eat a penny.
(02:34):
I got ninety nine cents worth of change, four pennies
and quarters.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I know, the answer is easy. You just round
up or round down.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Right, And that's it.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
When you think about the fact too, that we paid
digitally so much more of these days that we could
essentially eradicate it from yea, from almost every digital transaction.
When it comes to a physical in person transaction, we
literally could just round up a round down at the
end of the day, like nobody cares if they get
shisted from two pennies because it's essentially has no consequence.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
It's worth so little at this point in time, So.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Why why is it still around when it makes no
logical sense at all to keep it?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So I think the reason is, and this is kind
of what the New York Times was suggesting.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I think they're spot on on.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
This is that we are so dysfunctional as a society
that we cannot make basic choices like eradicating the penny
that are self evidently ridiculously intelligent. We just have an
inability to do anything productive in this country. And so
I think that's it. I think that really would have
come to Certain politicians have suggested it. I remember that
was part of Andrew Yang's platform when he was running
(03:42):
for president as a Democrat, was like, eradicate the penny.
But we don't really talk about serious issues, and we're
so dysfunctional that we can't even get rid of a
penny that nobody cares about, nobody wants.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Sometimes you wonder, well, you wonder that why and what
Congress is doing and they could actually do something that
makes sense. God forbid they do that all right, switching
gears and talking about the American dream and how it
really isn't there anymore. I happen to be reading right
(04:13):
now Hillbilly Elogy by JD.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Vance. It's actually now I think he's sort of crazy.
You know, he's a Trump shill, But this book that
he wrote.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Talks a lot about the American dream and how in
this case Appalacia where it just doesn't exist, or Appalachia
it just doesn't exist, and.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
The reality is there.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They've accepted it, which is why they basically don't trust
government at all.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They don't trust society at all.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But even in places like southern California, where you came
here because of the American Dream gone.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And when you say gone, typically what that means, especially
in a place like southern California, is that it's too
expensive for almost anyone to actually live out the American
dream as we you know, our forefathers and as our
parents kind of tended to live out in You're right,
I mean, especially in southern California. There's this new study
from go Banking Rates, and it was talking about, well,
how much does it actually cost to live the American
(05:21):
dream across the United States? And in some places you
would think Mississippi, Arkansas, some of those rural southern places,
it's a whole lot cheaper, less than half as expensive
as it is to live out that American dream in California.
In California basically takes a quarter of a million dollars
a year in order to live quote unquote the American dream.
Because it's man life is really expensive. We talk about inflation,
(05:43):
that's certainly part of it. But I do want to
just highlight one thing that's really important to note. When
you're looking at these numbers. We talk about the rate
of inflation, and essentially, over the past decade or so,
the American Dream costs something like thirty six percent more.
The one thing that never gets talked about is the
fact that household income has grown more than the cost
of the American Dream has increased. So there is some
(06:04):
truth to the fact that the American Dream is harder
to afford for many many people. But it's also important
to note that overall household finances are not as bad
off as some people would like suggest. We read something
like a headline number of how much credit card debt
Americans are in it passes a trillion, and then one
point one trillion.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
We're like, oh my gosh, this is so bad.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
When you look at the inflation adjusted number, it's actually
not as bad as you would assume it is. Granted,
I'm the kind of guy who wants zero credit card debt,
so I hate it no matter what. But it's just
important that like big number of scare people, and when
we see a study like this, it makes it seem
like the American Dream is completely out of reach. I
just don't know that that's complete case, but it is
also haves and haves notts.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, Okay, but let's be fair for a moment when
you talk about the it's the American dream is not
that far off because you have to household income is
beating inflation. When we had nine percent inflation a year
a year and a half ago, you weren't getting nine percent.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Raises true that I want to.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Finish up about the American dream, especially here in southern California,
because it's insanely expensive and I'm guessing that housing is
completely out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Of control is one big reason. That may be the
biggest reason.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And of course, our tax rate is delightfully low California
in general, we're very proud of being number one, and
we certainly are number one in terms of taxes. Now,
the American Dream is the hardest here in southern California,
probably New York. But let's go to Tennessee, Let's go
to Mississippi where it costs half as much to live there,
(07:38):
and are the wages half as much?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Not necessarily, right, I mean so so much depends on
where you're going inside of those states. And the truth
is that the major discreptancy typically is city first rural,
and as you're reading he'bili elogy, you're seeing that like,
there's something about rural America where there's less opportunity, there's
less access to high speed internet where you can even
work remotely and get those jobs. And granted, things are changing,
(08:02):
and we're seeing even like new satellite internet services spring
up that are making it possible for people to live
all across the country and get access to jobs they
wouldn't otherwise have had access to.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
But then the.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Flip reverse of that also is the case, and so
you might have moved to a place like Los Angeles
for opportunity and realize that some of those jobs are
actually getting farmed out to people who live in other
parts of the country where it costs less, and they
might be able to pay those people less. So it's
just like double edged sword, this geographic arbage.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, how prevalent is that.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Let's say you're in tech and you have a great
job and you're making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year, which by the way, is not a lot
of money in southern California, as crazy as it is,
you're not living it's that you're not living in an
upper middle class life with one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, even with rent or trying to maintain
(08:54):
a household or buying a house, that becomes impossible. So
you get your one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
year and you can work at home because you're in.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Tech, and you move to a rural area in.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Georgia right where you know, I know, you know how
many recipes for squirrel do you.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Think they have at the local community center. It's just cheaper.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
But employers are saying, why would I pay you one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars if you're sitting out in
for for from land over there and you're hunting for
your own food.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And that's exactly that's exactly what's happening. In the beginning
of the pandemic, we saw that employers were saying, like, listen, yes,
of course, you can't come into the office. You can
be anywhere, I guess, and do it. For the folks
who could the laptop class, I guess. For the folks
who could work remotely, it was like, sure, go do
your thing, work wherever you want. And then we started
to see some of the big tech companies say where
are you living again, because we're going to adjust your
(09:54):
salary based on the cost of living where you work.
And now we're seeing even more pay cuts. I think
for the Wall Street Journal documented this this week that
in a softening labor economy, we're seeing like actual waves
cuts in some industries, and part of it is going
to be based on where you work, and part of
it's going to be based on the fact that these
(10:14):
employers can hire people that don't have to be specific
to a location. And I think part of what's going
to make you more valuable as an employee is if
you are specific to a location, being in the office.
There's something It's so much harder to fire a person
right that you see every day at the water cooler
who's producing, than it is to fire the person that
(10:36):
you see on a zoom call once a month.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So just be thoughtful about that.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Hey, maybe you don't have to go into the office, right,
but it might be beneficial for your career and for your
future income to be going into the office at least
with some regularity.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
By the way, I have no problem firing people in person,
absolutely none. And the last couple of people that I
fired in this, I'm going to give to this advice
that I'm going to give to everybody who has to
fire someone, And that is what I do. And I
start with I used to start with, if this is
going to be harder for me than it is for you,
(11:09):
And the person I was firing said, that is a croc.
Don't say that, that is a lie, because at the
end of this conversation, You're going to have a job
and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And I said, you know what, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So I now start with, at the end of this conversation,
I'm going to have a job and you're not. And
doing that in person is so much better than doing
that over the internet.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But let me ask you this, how prevalent.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Is it that employers are now taking into account the
various places where you are living when you leave and
I'm assuming in jobs that are really high tech and
you're wanted too bad, you know, I'm just going to
keep the difference.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean it depends on what your
skill set is and how much appeal you have to
that particular employer, how much do they need you, And
so this comes down to knowing what you have, knowing
the hand you're holding and being able to then play
that accordingly with your employer. Yeah, I think it is
happening more, but I think now it's less like, hey,
(12:14):
wait a second, you've been working for Facebook for three years.
Now we see that you move to a cheaper place
in Idaho, So now we're going to deduct your pay.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's typically more.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
About like when they're hiring new people, they care less
about the fact that you're nearby, and so they can
actually lower the And we're seeing more of these, like
these states forcing these companies to list what they're going
to pay in particular, and so we're seeing just to
pay for some of these positions dropping across the board
because they can hire somebody that's not necessarily in Silicon
(12:48):
Valley or in Los Angeles. They're able to hire people
who have similar skills somewhere else, and so they can
just drop the pay for the position because people from
other locations are just going to be just as interested
in that job.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Hey, I don't know if you know the answer this one,
but where is it the most affordable decent place to
live in this country? And I'm not talking about living
in a coal mine, just you know, a place that's
reasonable and you can buy a house or rent a place.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do we know? Do you know where that is?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Okay, what's your definition of decent because some people would
say that Mississippi, when you look at this, is like
the best place to live according to costs. Are you
talking about being close to a big city.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You know there's too many variables there. Okay, I'll buy that.
So that's an impossible question.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
People would say rural Arkansas, which will actually pay you
to move there. Some parts of Arkansas it's like the
best for like mountain biking and outdoors and stuff like that,
and that's one of the cheapest places to live, and
so you know, people have That's the other thing about
this too, is that people have different ideas of what
the American dream is. And so when you're looking at
what maybe the American dream is to live rurally and
live unless it makes.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Sense that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I wouldn't move to a rural area because I hate
the outside. I don't hike, I don't go to the beach,
I don't like the mountains, but I also hate the inside,
and that becomes really problematic.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Joel does, yes, it does you know? I welcome to
southern California.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
All right, we'll catch you next week and then this
Sunday from twelve to two.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Have a good one, Joel you bill.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
All Right, You've got a restaurant and the hostess person,
whether it's a male or female hostess, will ask you
how many in your party? And if you say party
of one, all of a sudden, that smile goes the
other way.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Really, you're taking.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Up a table, is what they're thinking. And you walk
in the door. That is a thing now. More and
more people are eating alone at restaurants.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I don't like it, but I.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Have I bring out my book, Oh that really thrills them.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Or I bring out my phone, which a lot of
people do.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
And maybe because people have access to everybody, they're actually
talking to people and they're not across the table. They're
talking to friends or family members or coworkers. And just
a couple of a couple of stats I want to
throw at you. In the US, solo dining reservations have
gone up twenty nine percent in the last two years,
(15:14):
according to Open Table. It's up eighteen percent this year
in Germany, fourteen percent in the United Kingdom. Japan, where
this is really exploding even has a special term for
solo dining. Oh he told Sama, oh he todi Sama
translated means remember pearl harbor. No, what it actually means
(15:37):
is dining alone, but not in a pejorative sense with
the honorifics. Just it's just something that people do. A
recent survey this is hilarious and this is the name
of this organization, Japan's Hot Pepper Gourmety Eating Out Research Institute.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I mean, that's real. I'm not making that up.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Found that twenty three percent of Japanese people eat out alone,
and that's up from eighteen percent in twenty eighteen. So
what's happening. Well, restaurants, particularly in Japan. This has to
do a lot with Japan. This is an AP News
story and it came.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Out of Japan.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Restaurants in Japan and around the world are redoing their seating,
changing menus, adding special touches to appeal to solo diners.
And why you know why, Well, if you talk to
Open Table CEO Wi Su, she starts giving you reasons
(16:41):
why this is the case. One reason is that people
who work from home just want to get out of
their house. And if you are the breadwinner, let's say
a spouse works someplace that has to be there and
you're at home.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You know what, you just want to get out.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You're gonna grab lunch someplace else and by yourself. She
also says there are other reasons too, a broader movement
of self love and self care.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's assuming you have some kind of self esteem. I
have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
The pandemic really changed everything.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I have said this many many times, and that is
we don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Two things. We have no idea of the implication.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
One is ai okay, no idea none, and the other
one is studying the effects of the pandemic, how it
has changed and the long term effects. For example, education
are young people who were especially here in California where
we were, we went way too far.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
In at home learning.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
How that affects you your whole life, basically losing a
year year and a half of school and doing it
at home, which very few people do well. Now, as
I said, is it easy to It used to be
almost impossible.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
To eat alone. It's horrible. I mean people were lonely,
they didn't have anybody else.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Now it's you know, you bring out your phone, and
it's like talking to other people you're not alone.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Also, more people are living alone.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Now that's a double hit because you have people that
don't have money who have to have roommates and intergenerational living, and.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Then people who do Okay, more of those people are
living alone.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Pew Research thirty eight percent of US adults twenty five
to fifty four living without a partner. That's up from
twenty nine percent in nineteen ninety. By the way, in Japan,
back we go to Japan, single households now make up
one third of the total and that's going to climb
to forty twenty forty. Also, solo travel. I know someone
(19:07):
used to work at KFI, a friend of mine, and
she travels by herself. She does, and a lot of
people do that now. Now, restaurants aren't normally thrilled to
seat a single diner at a table because that's half
(19:28):
a bill and that's not wonderful. Matter of fact, what
they really like is take a table for two and
bring a third share.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's when they have fun.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
But there are restaurants that are catering to single diners
and here's what they do.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And I go to a couple of these restaurants.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
There is a communal table where if you're by yourself,
they go, hey, would you or you have to sit
at a communal table. There's a restaurant I go to.
It's a breakfast place and they have tables, and if
you're by yourself, they have one long table with benches
on both sides, and it's a communal table. It sits
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ten people on each side. And sometimes you're asked, and
sometimes people do it. We'd rather sit at a communal
table because if you go out to eat with someone
that's in your family or someone you know, you know what,
what if you don't like them? In my case, what
(20:29):
if you don't want to be near those people. You
want to eat by yourself. Now it's okay. You know
it used to be when people eat we're eating alone.
There was something wrong with them. This is an antisocial person?
Do they have no one else to eat with? And
you feel sorry for those people? I remember that. Now
(20:51):
when you see someone eating alone, you know what, do
you think.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Actually, I still feel sorry for those people?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Amy or you see someone eating alone, do you think
that it's it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's a thing that it's now just accepted.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I think it's more acceptable for me. It's it's still
a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's. And people are and restaurants
are changing their menus. Now here's a regular menu, and
here is our menu for single people, and it's labeled
the loser menu.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You know, it's worse.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Worse is watching people sitting at a table together who
never say a word to each other. That's more uncomfortable
to me than eating alone.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
No, no, that's just the definition of marriage. See I
don't know that, because that's just that's easy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
All right, We're done with that now. I'm going to
end with another workplace story. I love doing workplace stories.
Why when I first of all, i've met both an
employer still am I have been an employee for example here,
and I'd like to look at how life has changed
(22:12):
so dramatically. And one of the changes is we have
gen Z workers are now outnumbering baby boomers. I'm a
baby boomer, and we exploded in terms of the population
after World War Two. I mean, clearly, no one was
(22:32):
getting laid during World War two, and after the war,
all of a sudden, everybody discovered sex. So here come
the baby boomers, huge population and companies are finding now
their youngest employees are the most difficult to work with.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Read gen Z and executives.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I have to figure out what we're going to do
mentorship for employees who are entering the workforce. Why because
they were remote during the pandemic. So even someone who's
worked for a couple of years in a company and
work remotely is being introduced to the office. And it's
(23:12):
a whole new set of social skills that needed, like
talking to people, like running into them in the hall,
having conversations one on one with bosses in the office.
And each new generation coming up confuses corporate management. They
just don't know how to deal with it until they
(23:33):
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And what the new generation of gen ze ers want.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is not the traditional stuff. What they want is what
you know. Business school teaches out. I was in business
school before I went to law school, before I was
kicked out of business school, which is true. And one
of the things we studied was in companies that hire
new people or try to keep new people. It's not
money that does it. I mean, money is great, but
(24:00):
that goes away pretty quickly. People get used to more money.
What matters is validation, feeling important, feeling like management cares
and they care about you. That's far more important, and
particularly now with gen Z. You know, when I was working,
I started working, I mean I worked for bosses, you know,
(24:21):
And do they care about me, being involved in me
at having validation?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Bill you're a good guy.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Not particularly now it is critical, absolutely critical with employees.
And again because in a great part because of remote
work and so last summer secrecy Financial credit Card company
(24:48):
has dozens of gen Z hires.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You know what they want.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They want to feel important. They wanted on site therapy. Now,
twenty years ago it was a gym. Remember that was
it's important, bean bag chairs, places to hang out.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Now it's therapy. What does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Okay, before we bail and I'm gonna go to Neil
in just a second, I'm taking phone calls for handle
on the law, and I'm starting right at the top
of the hour, just a few minutes after off the air,
marginal legal advice eight seven seven five to zero eleven
fifty eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty and
no breaks, no weather, no traffic, just me and I
(25:32):
have no patience. So we go through these calls very
very quickly eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
Also in just a few moments, the podcast, the Bill
Handles Show podcast drops today air Force one The History,
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Speaker 2 (25:51):
What is that noise? Oh that's Neil. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Neil's asleep, Oh, Neil, Yeah, that's lovely.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
This is I were friends. Thank you, Neil. Oh. Were
you going to come to me?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah? Bill handle Show podcast, Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Bill Handleshow
podcast dot com.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Neil chilling in for Gary and Shannon. You and Marla?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, Hi, Bill, she's here too.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
How are you? How bad can I be? I'm ending
the show?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, And speaking of remote work, and you're remote.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, well sometime I do buy half and half today
I'm in my home studio, which happens. And Neil, you're
actually in the studio sometimes you're at home.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Yes, sir, I am here, yeah, and so is Marla. Yeah,
and we're going to do a show. Look at us.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, not awkward at all, buddy, No, no, not at all.
Now here's the good news about for those of us
that can work remotely. There's no amy can't and kono can't.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Muscle took.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We prefar you outside, all right, Neil, what's going on
with you and Marla today?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Well that we got heat definitely coming in goodness, And
you know what, we have a story coming out of
Long Beach about of school with no possible way to
help with the heat.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Some crazy stories coming up shortly.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
We also are going to be talking about, of course,
the shooting in the Georgia High school. And what we
know now about the shooter is information slowly comes out.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Fourteen year old, scary story.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I know everybody's focusing on the type of gun he used,
but there's a lot more to it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Bill talked about this earlier today, the fact that he
was questioned by the FBI, Yeah, when he was third
year ago.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah, so we'll get into all that more fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You got it that's coming up, And it's what's his face?
Neil and Marla filling in for Gary and Shannon in
just a moment and phone calls eight seven seven, five
to zero eleven fifty handle on the law off the
air and I'll.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Hit them very quick. Calls coming in or I'll be
very quick about those calls.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
All right, This is KFI am six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Catch My Show Monday through Friday, six am to nine am,
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