September 16, 2024 • 26 mins
A second assassination attempt against former President Trump raises new questions. AI can rescue people from conspiracy theory rabbit holes. Nearly half of us renters spend more than 30% of their income on housing costs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
This is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on
a Monday morning, September sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We started another week, and the big news.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That has hit us, all of us yesterday was the
second assassination attempt against former President Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So this is number two in just a matter of weeks.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And here's what happened, and then we'll talk about why
the Secret Service is reeling and what happened.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You know, how did this happen?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So Trump is playing golf with a friend of his,
we don't have the name, and he is I forgot
what tea is on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I don't know if they even mentioned that. But from the.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Bushes about let's say, five hundred yards away, which you're
still talking fifteen hundred feet, there was a gunman within
a rifle right who had hidden himself in the bushes
five hundred feet five hundred yards away. He has been
identified as Ryan Wesley Routh, fifty one years old, and
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they of course arrested him because here is the good
part of that story. A Secret Service ation saw the
gun poking out from the bushes and immediately fired in
that direction. The gunman was not hid and fled and
there was a witness who saw him running away and
snapped the picture of the car that he jumped into
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with the license plate, and that went out and the
authorities were able to pick him up becausey knew the
kind of car was a Nissan An SUV and they
knew the license plate, so they got him. Now the
question is, let's look at the security one more time.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How does a gunman.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hide himself in the bushes that close to the president,
especially after what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, where Donald Trump's
ear was graced and unfortunately there was a rally attendee
who was killed. And if that bullet had gone two
inches the other way, Donald Trump would not be alive today.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
How did that happen? Now? The first grew up.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, they were all They've done all kinds of analysis.
The Secret Service relied on local authorities.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
The local authorities didn't have enough.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Weapons out there, They couldn't talk to each other. The
authorities had seen this guy go up on the roof,
I mean a complete cluster truck on this one. But
now we go forward to the assassination attempt yesterday. What
in God's name happened that this guy was able to
get that close with a weapon, with a long gun,
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and we're not hearing. We also don't know any motive
for this, and we'll see if at even I'm assuming
there's political over tones on this one. The first one,
there weren't many political overtones. It was just as kid.
I think he was twenty one, wasn't he? And all
from what we saw on his social media, he just
wanted to shoot someplace up.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That was basically it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He had on his hit list both the former president
Trump and Kamala Harris and Supreme Court justices.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And on and on.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So that was just who was the most opportune to
go after, and it happened to be the Butler Pennsylvania
rally for Donald Trump. So I'm going to dismiss that
one as politically motivated, Okay, one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
This one, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I think when you're dealing with a fifty one year old,
I think the chances of political motivation here is much stronger.
And therein lies the problem is that you know, it's
no big deal. After the assassination attempt first time out
of Donald Trump, that was the high point. As a
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matter of fact, people had said, on both sides of
the aisle, both sides of the.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Belief system, He's just won the election. He just won it.
It's over.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And he showed up a couple of days later at
the convention where he was accepting the nomination, and I've.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Never seen such adulation in my life.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean, it was incredible. So now we go fast forward.
That actually dropped off very quickly, not among his most
ardent supporters, but most ardent supporters on either side. They're
never going to change where they're going to go, ever,
But in terms of the electorate, that actually dropped off,
and the analysis it's early on this one isn't.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Going to change much of anything anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Can you imagine that now we are more conscious conscious
of the security than we are about the attempts. It's
sort of almost a given that there are going to
be assassination attempts, and the Secret Service has not been funded,
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has not gotten what has requested, and I think that's going.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
To change completely.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And then the other issue is here's one and it's
a survey that was just taken and this is not surprising,
but really troubling. The Chicago Project on Security and Threats.
The think tank released this in June. Six point nine
percent of Americans basically eighteen million people, believe it was
justified to use force to restore Trump to the White House.
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The equivalent of eighteen million people, basically seven percent who
were pulled.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Millions of those people who.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Were polled in both camps, by the way, said political
violence would be warranted.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The vast majority of those have guns.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And are saying violence is warranted to make sure that
Trump returns to power. Now that's not to say there
aren't crazies on the left, but the ownership of guns
is not crazy on the left.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It is really crazy on the right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
And the violence that's being demonstrated amongst those supporters is
really scary. I mean, it's gotten to the point. Well,
you see, I don't care which side of the coin
you're on. I don't care if you're Trump. If you
talk to me about policy, I'm fine with that. You know, congratulations.
You know, we just disagree, by the way, I disagree
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with a lot of Kamala Kamala voters too. I think, Okay,
come on, really, what do you do a distribution of wealth?
Is that what we're going to do. But on the
other side, there is there a threat democracy. Yeah I
think so do I think? Am I upset about someone saying, yeah,
I have a gun and I believe in using that
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gun to keep Trump in power? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
That's scary. But the point of.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It is, at this point, if there is another assassination attempt,
whether it is on former President Trump, or it is
on Kamala Harris, or on jd Vance or on Tim Walls,
is anybody going to be surprised?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And the scary part of that is.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
No, no, absolutely not. When there have been attempts to
assassinate the president and we've seen him with Gerald Ford
Ronald Reagan, we were shocked as a nation, utterly stunned.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Now is anybody shocked?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Anybody walking away stunned that there was another assassination on
Donald Trump? No matter what the politics are, this is
a man who is the Republican nominee for president. Really,
and you guys, you those who decide that it's okay
to take him out with a weapon or are you
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welcome to America? That's the part that's really really hurtful.
All Right, I want to talk about something that's going
on that is so completely weird and actually very troubling.
And that is the issue of conspiracy theories that now
you have President Trump to a greater extent than I've
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ever seen and JD.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Vance involved.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And that was the allegation made during the course of
the debate former President Trump had with Kamala Harris saying
straight out that fifteen thousand Haitians illegal Haitians in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
First of all, that's not true. They were legal. That's
just an utter non truth.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now, whether you thought they should be legal is a
different story, because they were. They came to the United
States under an asylum, but they were granted asylum. So
are you that one? Don't argue a fact that doesn't exist.
And then the big one that I just love, and
that is these Haitians, these illegal migrants are eating the
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pets of the citizens of Springfield, Ohio. They're eating their
dogs and cats. They're eating their cats and dogs. And
of course the internet has gone completely crazy with that cono.
Do you have that they're getting the dogs, niating the
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cats and niating the pets the people that Oh no, no, no,
that's the wrong one. Sorry, I haven't had a chance
to look at this one. This was a takeoff on
what Trump said during the course of that debate, and
that was taken off. So we have to look for
that one. I was rolling literally rolling laughter on that one.
(10:01):
So I'll find that one. But anyway, so of course,
the gifts have started and the Internet goes completely nuts,
as you would expect the internet too. And so just
for fun, by the way, before I get into the
more serious topics, not only did former President Trump say
that the Haitian migrants are eating the pets, the dogs,
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and cats of the citizens of Springfield, Ohio. He has
never taken it back, He's doubled down on it. And
the question is to see believe it, and I had
I would guess yes. Now jd Vance, do I think
he believes it because he's doubled down.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, I don't think he believes it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You know why, because what he said on CNN it's
okay to make things up.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Just to put attention on the issue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The issue is the illegal the illegal migration into Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Look what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Look what the government is doing allowing these migrants in.
By the way, that's a true argument, because they did
allow these migrants in. Now did the government have anything
to do with the fact that they're in Springfield, Ohio. No,
because here's what ends up happening. You have a small
group of people who come into it area and that
starts the critical mass rolling. You know, for example, the
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biggest population of Iraqis are in Dearborn, Michigan, like one
hundred thousand, and then in Westminster it's Vietnamese. You know,
here in southern California. So people just have a tendency
to congregate. That's what happened with Haitians in Springfield, Ohio.
They just all moved to that area. And is there
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an issue, Oh, you bet there's an issue. You've got
public services that are all kinds of problematic.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
But then arguing that going to their eating their pets.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And doubling down on it, and fans saying, that's a
legitimate statement to make. Yes, that's not that it's true,
but it's legitimate to say that. Incidentally, that was predicated
on one phone call in which the woman called and
said she heard it third hand and called nine to
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one one, and all of a sudden it took off
and it became one of the principal statements made by
former President Trump during the debate, which I just shook
my head and I went come on.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And then of course they're doubling down. And so.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
We're looking at a campaign that has now spiraled. I
thought it had spiraled out of control and it couldn't
get any more out of control. Now it's gone nuts. Actually,
the CNN reporter jd Vance said something that was really interesting, saying,
it's okay for us to say that, and you as
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the media have to investigate that. You're not doing your
listeners or viewers as service by not investigating it. And
she came back with, what if a phone call came
in that they just saw Bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Someone just saw Bigfoot?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Is it up to us to then investigate whether Bigfoot
actually was running around the outskirts of Springfield, Ohio and
put reporters on it. Effectively, it has gone completely crazy.
And by the way, and I want to get back
into the story, the heart of the story, but as
a pin to former President Trump and in his honor
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and jd Vance and putting up on Instagram at Bill
handleshow recipe for dog meat soup. This is a legitimate
by the way, Okay, dog meat soup and fiery Sescheuan
cat surfry with full instructions on how to cook cats
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and dogs. Now, what's kind of weird is Korean and Chinese.
I'm trying, for the life of me to look at
a Haitian recipe for dogs and cats, and I cannot
find one.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So if anybody has any information, I'd love that please.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, Now I was just talking about conspiracy theories and
have just a great.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Time with it.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The recipe I have for cats and dogs, real recipes
I have for cats and dogs. After the claim that
form President Trump did or uttered during the debate and
so just by the way, not connected to that, but
there's a study that just.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Came out and written up in the journal Science.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Very well respected, and it had to do with trying
to talk people out of crazy ass conspirairacy theorists. About
half of Americans actually do subscribe to some sort of
conspiracy theory, and you can't talk them out of it.
When people believe it, they believe it. So what this
study did a bunch of experiments.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They used AI.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And AI was able to make more than a quarter
of the people who are worth certain about conspiracy theories
feel uncertain about their more cherished belief for example, people
who really did believe we didn't land on the moon,
or the nine to eleven attacks were our government, or
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that President Biden really did win the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean, on and.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
On and the bottom line, the researcher said, the study leader,
people believe in conspiracy theories rarely have ever changed their mind. However,
and here is what this study showed. Using AI and
this AI powered chat box was able to reduce substantially
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the number of people who are that adamant about their
belief in the conspiracies. And it didn't matter what conspiracy
it was, either from Area fifty one and Roswell and
the government hiding the aliens to the JFK assassination to
what's happening now in the world of politics, all these
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conspiracies that are going around.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Here is what the AI.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The chat box did is instead of just throwing facts
out at people, right, hey, I believe that the government
did this, it's more like, you know, you have a point.
I mean, I understand that what you're looking at. But
let's look at and this is pretty subtle. Let's look
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at what can happen with the evidence that is there,
and let's just take a look at it. You know,
for example nine to eleven and the World Trade towers
going down couldn't have gone down with the airplanes. Why
because jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to bring down
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to melt steel.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well, you know that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But if you look at what jet fuel actually does,
is it burns at eighteen hundred degrees centigrade and that
does bring down steel. And here is the evidence. Although
I can see why you are looking at it, and
of course you have a point, it's more agreeing with
their positional, agreeing with their thinking, but at the same
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time gently moving them off that while giving them credit
for thinking that way. And it's not irrational, it's just
factually you're just a little bit off, you know, that's
the bottom line. Don't throw facts and basically say you
are crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Don't do what I do.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Are you out of your f ing mind? Do you
really believe that crap? Can you be this stupid? That
doesn't work? It should, but it doesn't work. So here
is what the chat boss did. Okay, it asked people
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to share your feelings about a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This is among people who believe in conspiracies.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And it began with the chat box summarizing that person's
description of the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Do I have this right? Yeah? You do, and then.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Slowly going about making the case there was nothing fishy
going on.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
There could have been. I mean, there's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Of course, King Charles could have had Diana killed so
he could marry Camilla.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Of course that's post. But there was eight years.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Between the two between the marriage and Diana's death, okay.
And so distinguishing between what could be theoretically possible and
what is supported by evidence in a gentle way while
still giving people credit.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That seems to work. And it was, and it was substantial.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We're talking about twenty twenty five percent, now, seventy five
eighty percent didn't change anything, right, It did not change
a thing, And it didn't matter what conspiracy theory either,
you know, all the way from Kamala Harris and Tim
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Walls really did kidnap and kill the lind Bird baby
in nineteen twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Okay, there's that one, which I really love. And of
course one of my favorite is.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The moon landing actually took place in a sound stage
in Culver City. Well, it could have, but let's look
at the way it actually transpired. We knew it was
fake because the American flag was fluttering.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
When they were on the moon, and we know there's
no wind. Well, the way.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They set it up, look at it this possibility, which
is what actually happened. As they were putting it together,
it moves somewhat. And so that's how to deal with people. Now,
do I believe that this works well? The evidence seems
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to be there, But frankly, I don't care about the evidence.
I think calling people morons, idiots, cretans, imbeciles works far
better and convincing them that they're wrong and I'm right,
which is why the show does so well.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
With almost nobody.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
All right, let me switch gears for a moment and
talk about the cost of housing.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And this is one of those things that has been
one of my.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Pet peeves on how difficult it is just to be housed.
You know, one of the things about in America is
we consider ourselves the greatest country in the world, and
in many ways we are. The problem is that's not
an overriding statement, because there's many parts and pieces to that.
One of them is how you can't afford to live
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here in many parts of the country, particularly here in
southern California.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Now here's the rule.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, your rent, your mortgage payments should be more no
more than thirty percent of your income. That has been
a rule in violate that has gone on forever. Well,
you can toss that one right out of the window.
We knew that, but it's just been confirmed. US Census
Bureau just came out with their American Community Survey twenty
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twenty three, and not only has buying a home become
prohibitively expensive for Americans, but so has renting a home.
It's not as if you didn't know that, but the
Census is now giving us more information. I like it
when we take a concept that's anecdotal. Yeah I know that,
Yeah you know that, and now we have figures that
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back this up. Now we have real figures. The median
cost of housing for renters rose in one year from
thirteen fifty four to fourteen oh six, and that's adjusted
for inflation. Can you imagine getting a good apartment for
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fourteen hundred bucks, two bedroom, nice apartment. You wish people
it's been more than thirty percent of their income on
rent or mortgage payments or housing costs in general are
considered cost burden by the US Department of Housing and
Irven Development. That's twenty one million households that are cost burdened.
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Then you have fifty percent of the people out there
and you're talking about two and a half million more
households that are considered Oh, this is just black household
considered severely cost burden. And here's something that you would
never expect to hear the cost of living, the cost
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of housing is the minority community is more severely impacted.
The worst group of people or the most impacted black community,
then Hispanic community are the most impacted, and the people
that do the best are white people. What a shock
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that is. And if we look at it, why does
this happened? Because it's almost counterintuitive. Okay, after the pandemic,
the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to near zero.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
This was in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
To buoy the economy. So you had remote work trends,
and so here's what happened. Significant demand for housing fair enough,
values went up fair enough. Now, the recent rate hiking campaign,
which now brought interest to thirty twenty three year highs,
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hasn't even tamped down the demand.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
See that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
When interest rates have doubled, the demand is still insane.
And when you have high demand both in rentals and
in just straight out purchasing of homes mortgages, then the
prices go up. And that's the part that is so weird,
because you would think higher interest rates doubling, fewer and
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fewer people would be able to buy homes. Therefore would
be able to even sell homes. Therefore the price would drop.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Not a chance.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Why because inventory on homes is more important than anything else.
The other thing that makes it prohibitively expensive is insurance.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know what I'm seeing, and it's crazy. I never
imagine I would see this.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So you have these wildfires and the reporters inevitably stick
a microphone in front of someone who's.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Just lost everything right gone.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
The house is a foundation, and they inevitably speak of
and your heart breaks them.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We've lost everything.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And then the line that comes up and they have
no insurance.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Who would have ever thunk that you have no insurance? Well,
two things. Number one, you can't afford insurance, or you.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Can't get insurance because you're in a high risk area,
whether it's fire or it's flood around the country, and
So what a mortgage companies do you have to have
insurance or.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
They called a loan?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Right, well, what if you can't get insurance, what are
they gonna do. They're gonna sell it to someone who
also can't get insurance. When they call the loan, I
mean it is a mess. By the way, Florida had
the highest share of homeowners paying over fifty percent, followed
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by California. You would think it'd be the other way around.
Florida is the worst in that regard. All Right, kf
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This is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on
a Monday morning, September sixteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We started another week, and the big news.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That has hit us, all of us yesterday was the
second assassination attempt against former President Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So this is number two in just a matter of weeks.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And here's what happened, and then we'll talk about why
the Secret Service is reeling and what happened.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You know, how did this happen?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So Trump is playing golf with a friend of his,
we don't have the name, and he is I forgot
what tea is on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I don't know if they even mentioned that. But from the.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Bushes about let's say, five hundred yards away, which you're
still talking fifteen hundred feet, there was a gunman within
a rifle right who had hidden himself in the bushes
five hundred feet five hundred yards away. He has been
identified as Ryan Wesley Routh, fifty one years old, and
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they of course arrested him because here is the good
part of that story. A Secret Service ation saw the
gun poking out from the bushes and immediately fired in
that direction. The gunman was not hid and fled and
there was a witness who saw him running away and
snapped the picture of the car that he jumped into
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with the license plate, and that went out and the
authorities were able to pick him up becausey knew the
kind of car was a Nissan An SUV and they
knew the license plate, so they got him. Now the
question is, let's look at the security one more time.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How does a gunman.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hide himself in the bushes that close to the president,
especially after what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania, where Donald Trump's
ear was graced and unfortunately there was a rally attendee
who was killed. And if that bullet had gone two
inches the other way, Donald Trump would not be alive today.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
How did that happen? Now? The first grew up.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, they were all They've done all kinds of analysis.
The Secret Service relied on local authorities.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
The local authorities didn't have enough.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Weapons out there, They couldn't talk to each other. The
authorities had seen this guy go up on the roof,
I mean a complete cluster truck on this one. But
now we go forward to the assassination attempt yesterday. What
in God's name happened that this guy was able to
get that close with a weapon, with a long gun,
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and we're not hearing. We also don't know any motive
for this, and we'll see if at even I'm assuming
there's political over tones on this one. The first one,
there weren't many political overtones. It was just as kid.
I think he was twenty one, wasn't he? And all
from what we saw on his social media, he just
wanted to shoot someplace up.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That was basically it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He had on his hit list both the former president
Trump and Kamala Harris and Supreme Court justices.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And on and on.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So that was just who was the most opportune to
go after, and it happened to be the Butler Pennsylvania
rally for Donald Trump. So I'm going to dismiss that
one as politically motivated, Okay, one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
This one, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I think when you're dealing with a fifty one year old,
I think the chances of political motivation here is much stronger.
And therein lies the problem is that you know, it's
no big deal. After the assassination attempt first time out
of Donald Trump, that was the high point. As a
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matter of fact, people had said, on both sides of
the aisle, both sides of the.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Belief system, He's just won the election. He just won it.
It's over.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And he showed up a couple of days later at
the convention where he was accepting the nomination, and I've.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Never seen such adulation in my life.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean, it was incredible. So now we go fast forward.
That actually dropped off very quickly, not among his most
ardent supporters, but most ardent supporters on either side. They're
never going to change where they're going to go, ever,
But in terms of the electorate, that actually dropped off,
and the analysis it's early on this one isn't.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Going to change much of anything anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Can you imagine that now we are more conscious conscious
of the security than we are about the attempts. It's
sort of almost a given that there are going to
be assassination attempts, and the Secret Service has not been funded,
(05:10):
has not gotten what has requested, and I think that's going.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
To change completely.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And then the other issue is here's one and it's
a survey that was just taken and this is not surprising,
but really troubling. The Chicago Project on Security and Threats.
The think tank released this in June. Six point nine
percent of Americans basically eighteen million people, believe it was
justified to use force to restore Trump to the White House.
(05:41):
The equivalent of eighteen million people, basically seven percent who
were pulled.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Millions of those people who.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Were polled in both camps, by the way, said political
violence would be warranted.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The vast majority of those have guns.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And are saying violence is warranted to make sure that
Trump returns to power. Now that's not to say there
aren't crazies on the left, but the ownership of guns
is not crazy on the left.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It is really crazy on the right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
And the violence that's being demonstrated amongst those supporters is
really scary. I mean, it's gotten to the point. Well,
you see, I don't care which side of the coin
you're on. I don't care if you're Trump. If you
talk to me about policy, I'm fine with that. You know, congratulations.
You know, we just disagree, by the way, I disagree
(06:40):
with a lot of Kamala Kamala voters too. I think, Okay,
come on, really, what do you do a distribution of wealth?
Is that what we're going to do. But on the
other side, there is there a threat democracy. Yeah I
think so do I think? Am I upset about someone saying, yeah,
I have a gun and I believe in using that
(07:02):
gun to keep Trump in power? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
That's scary. But the point of.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It is, at this point, if there is another assassination attempt,
whether it is on former President Trump, or it is
on Kamala Harris, or on jd Vance or on Tim Walls,
is anybody going to be surprised?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And the scary part of that is.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
No, no, absolutely not. When there have been attempts to
assassinate the president and we've seen him with Gerald Ford
Ronald Reagan, we were shocked as a nation, utterly stunned.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Now is anybody shocked?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Anybody walking away stunned that there was another assassination on
Donald Trump? No matter what the politics are, this is
a man who is the Republican nominee for president. Really,
and you guys, you those who decide that it's okay
to take him out with a weapon or are you
(08:07):
welcome to America? That's the part that's really really hurtful.
All Right, I want to talk about something that's going
on that is so completely weird and actually very troubling.
And that is the issue of conspiracy theories that now
you have President Trump to a greater extent than I've
(08:29):
ever seen and JD.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Vance involved.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And that was the allegation made during the course of
the debate former President Trump had with Kamala Harris saying
straight out that fifteen thousand Haitians illegal Haitians in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
First of all, that's not true. They were legal. That's
just an utter non truth.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now, whether you thought they should be legal is a
different story, because they were. They came to the United
States under an asylum, but they were granted asylum. So
are you that one? Don't argue a fact that doesn't exist.
And then the big one that I just love, and
that is these Haitians, these illegal migrants are eating the
(09:17):
pets of the citizens of Springfield, Ohio. They're eating their
dogs and cats. They're eating their cats and dogs. And
of course the internet has gone completely crazy with that cono.
Do you have that they're getting the dogs, niating the
(09:37):
cats and niating the pets the people that Oh no, no, no,
that's the wrong one. Sorry, I haven't had a chance
to look at this one. This was a takeoff on
what Trump said during the course of that debate, and
that was taken off. So we have to look for
that one. I was rolling literally rolling laughter on that one.
(10:01):
So I'll find that one. But anyway, so of course,
the gifts have started and the Internet goes completely nuts,
as you would expect the internet too. And so just
for fun, by the way, before I get into the
more serious topics, not only did former President Trump say
that the Haitian migrants are eating the pets, the dogs,
(10:22):
and cats of the citizens of Springfield, Ohio. He has
never taken it back, He's doubled down on it. And
the question is to see believe it, and I had
I would guess yes. Now jd Vance, do I think
he believes it because he's doubled down.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, I don't think he believes it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You know why, because what he said on CNN it's
okay to make things up.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Just to put attention on the issue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The issue is the illegal the illegal migration into Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Look what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Look what the government is doing allowing these migrants in.
By the way, that's a true argument, because they did
allow these migrants in. Now did the government have anything
to do with the fact that they're in Springfield, Ohio. No,
because here's what ends up happening. You have a small
group of people who come into it area and that
starts the critical mass rolling. You know, for example, the
(11:26):
biggest population of Iraqis are in Dearborn, Michigan, like one
hundred thousand, and then in Westminster it's Vietnamese. You know,
here in southern California. So people just have a tendency
to congregate. That's what happened with Haitians in Springfield, Ohio.
They just all moved to that area. And is there
(11:49):
an issue, Oh, you bet there's an issue. You've got
public services that are all kinds of problematic.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
But then arguing that going to their eating their pets.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And doubling down on it, and fans saying, that's a
legitimate statement to make. Yes, that's not that it's true,
but it's legitimate to say that. Incidentally, that was predicated
on one phone call in which the woman called and
said she heard it third hand and called nine to
(12:26):
one one, and all of a sudden it took off
and it became one of the principal statements made by
former President Trump during the debate, which I just shook
my head and I went come on.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And then of course they're doubling down. And so.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
We're looking at a campaign that has now spiraled. I
thought it had spiraled out of control and it couldn't
get any more out of control. Now it's gone nuts. Actually,
the CNN reporter jd Vance said something that was really interesting, saying,
it's okay for us to say that, and you as
(13:07):
the media have to investigate that. You're not doing your
listeners or viewers as service by not investigating it. And
she came back with, what if a phone call came
in that they just saw Bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Someone just saw Bigfoot?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Is it up to us to then investigate whether Bigfoot
actually was running around the outskirts of Springfield, Ohio and
put reporters on it. Effectively, it has gone completely crazy.
And by the way, and I want to get back
into the story, the heart of the story, but as
a pin to former President Trump and in his honor
(13:47):
and jd Vance and putting up on Instagram at Bill
handleshow recipe for dog meat soup. This is a legitimate
by the way, Okay, dog meat soup and fiery Sescheuan
cat surfry with full instructions on how to cook cats
(14:08):
and dogs. Now, what's kind of weird is Korean and Chinese.
I'm trying, for the life of me to look at
a Haitian recipe for dogs and cats, and I cannot
find one.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So if anybody has any information, I'd love that please.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, Now I was just talking about conspiracy theories and
have just a great.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Time with it.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The recipe I have for cats and dogs, real recipes
I have for cats and dogs. After the claim that
form President Trump did or uttered during the debate and
so just by the way, not connected to that, but
there's a study that just.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Came out and written up in the journal Science.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Very well respected, and it had to do with trying
to talk people out of crazy ass conspirairacy theorists. About
half of Americans actually do subscribe to some sort of
conspiracy theory, and you can't talk them out of it.
When people believe it, they believe it. So what this
study did a bunch of experiments.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
They used AI.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And AI was able to make more than a quarter
of the people who are worth certain about conspiracy theories
feel uncertain about their more cherished belief for example, people
who really did believe we didn't land on the moon,
or the nine to eleven attacks were our government, or
(15:37):
that President Biden really did win the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean, on and.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
On and the bottom line, the researcher said, the study leader,
people believe in conspiracy theories rarely have ever changed their mind. However,
and here is what this study showed. Using AI and
this AI powered chat box was able to reduce substantially
(16:06):
the number of people who are that adamant about their
belief in the conspiracies. And it didn't matter what conspiracy
it was, either from Area fifty one and Roswell and
the government hiding the aliens to the JFK assassination to
what's happening now in the world of politics, all these
(16:28):
conspiracies that are going around.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Here is what the AI.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The chat box did is instead of just throwing facts
out at people, right, hey, I believe that the government
did this, it's more like, you know, you have a point.
I mean, I understand that what you're looking at. But
let's look at and this is pretty subtle. Let's look
(16:54):
at what can happen with the evidence that is there,
and let's just take a look at it. You know,
for example nine to eleven and the World Trade towers
going down couldn't have gone down with the airplanes. Why
because jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to bring down
(17:15):
to melt steel.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well, you know that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
But if you look at what jet fuel actually does,
is it burns at eighteen hundred degrees centigrade and that
does bring down steel. And here is the evidence. Although
I can see why you are looking at it, and
of course you have a point, it's more agreeing with
their positional, agreeing with their thinking, but at the same
(17:43):
time gently moving them off that while giving them credit
for thinking that way. And it's not irrational, it's just
factually you're just a little bit off, you know, that's
the bottom line. Don't throw facts and basically say you
are crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Don't do what I do.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Are you out of your f ing mind? Do you
really believe that crap? Can you be this stupid? That
doesn't work? It should, but it doesn't work. So here
is what the chat boss did. Okay, it asked people
(18:26):
to share your feelings about a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This is among people who believe in conspiracies.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And it began with the chat box summarizing that person's
description of the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Do I have this right? Yeah? You do, and then.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Slowly going about making the case there was nothing fishy
going on.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
There could have been. I mean, there's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Of course, King Charles could have had Diana killed so
he could marry Camilla.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Of course that's post. But there was eight years.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Between the two between the marriage and Diana's death, okay.
And so distinguishing between what could be theoretically possible and
what is supported by evidence in a gentle way while
still giving people credit.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That seems to work. And it was, and it was substantial.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We're talking about twenty twenty five percent, now, seventy five
eighty percent didn't change anything, right, It did not change
a thing, And it didn't matter what conspiracy theory either,
you know, all the way from Kamala Harris and Tim
(19:49):
Walls really did kidnap and kill the lind Bird baby
in nineteen twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Okay, there's that one, which I really love. And of
course one of my favorite is.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The moon landing actually took place in a sound stage
in Culver City. Well, it could have, but let's look
at the way it actually transpired. We knew it was
fake because the American flag was fluttering.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
When they were on the moon, and we know there's
no wind. Well, the way.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They set it up, look at it this possibility, which
is what actually happened. As they were putting it together,
it moves somewhat. And so that's how to deal with people. Now,
do I believe that this works well? The evidence seems
(20:40):
to be there, But frankly, I don't care about the evidence.
I think calling people morons, idiots, cretans, imbeciles works far
better and convincing them that they're wrong and I'm right,
which is why the show does so well.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
With almost nobody.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
All right, let me switch gears for a moment and
talk about the cost of housing.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And this is one of those things that has been
one of my.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Pet peeves on how difficult it is just to be housed.
You know, one of the things about in America is
we consider ourselves the greatest country in the world, and
in many ways we are. The problem is that's not
an overriding statement, because there's many parts and pieces to that.
One of them is how you can't afford to live
(21:31):
here in many parts of the country, particularly here in
southern California.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Now here's the rule.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Okay, your rent, your mortgage payments should be more no
more than thirty percent of your income. That has been
a rule in violate that has gone on forever. Well,
you can toss that one right out of the window.
We knew that, but it's just been confirmed. US Census
Bureau just came out with their American Community Survey twenty
(22:00):
twenty three, and not only has buying a home become
prohibitively expensive for Americans, but so has renting a home.
It's not as if you didn't know that, but the
Census is now giving us more information. I like it
when we take a concept that's anecdotal. Yeah I know that,
Yeah you know that, and now we have figures that
(22:24):
back this up. Now we have real figures. The median
cost of housing for renters rose in one year from
thirteen fifty four to fourteen oh six, and that's adjusted
for inflation. Can you imagine getting a good apartment for
(22:45):
fourteen hundred bucks, two bedroom, nice apartment. You wish people
it's been more than thirty percent of their income on
rent or mortgage payments or housing costs in general are
considered cost burden by the US Department of Housing and
Irven Development. That's twenty one million households that are cost burdened.
(23:10):
Then you have fifty percent of the people out there
and you're talking about two and a half million more
households that are considered Oh, this is just black household
considered severely cost burden. And here's something that you would
never expect to hear the cost of living, the cost
(23:33):
of housing is the minority community is more severely impacted.
The worst group of people or the most impacted black community,
then Hispanic community are the most impacted, and the people
that do the best are white people. What a shock
(23:55):
that is. And if we look at it, why does
this happened? Because it's almost counterintuitive. Okay, after the pandemic,
the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to near zero.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
This was in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
To buoy the economy. So you had remote work trends,
and so here's what happened. Significant demand for housing fair enough,
values went up fair enough. Now, the recent rate hiking campaign,
which now brought interest to thirty twenty three year highs,
(24:28):
hasn't even tamped down the demand.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
See that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
When interest rates have doubled, the demand is still insane.
And when you have high demand both in rentals and
in just straight out purchasing of homes mortgages, then the
prices go up. And that's the part that is so weird,
because you would think higher interest rates doubling, fewer and
(24:55):
fewer people would be able to buy homes. Therefore would
be able to even sell homes. Therefore the price would drop.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Not a chance.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Why because inventory on homes is more important than anything else.
The other thing that makes it prohibitively expensive is insurance.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
You know what I'm seeing, and it's crazy. I never
imagine I would see this.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So you have these wildfires and the reporters inevitably stick
a microphone in front of someone who's.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Just lost everything right gone.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
The house is a foundation, and they inevitably speak of
and your heart breaks them.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We've lost everything.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And then the line that comes up and they have
no insurance.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Who would have ever thunk that you have no insurance? Well,
two things. Number one, you can't afford insurance, or you.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Can't get insurance because you're in a high risk area,
whether it's fire or it's flood around the country, and
So what a mortgage companies do you have to have
insurance or.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
They called a loan?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Right, well, what if you can't get insurance, what are
they gonna do. They're gonna sell it to someone who
also can't get insurance. When they call the loan, I
mean it is a mess. By the way, Florida had
the highest share of homeowners paying over fifty percent, followed
(26:20):
by California. You would think it'd be the other way around.
Florida is the worst in that regard. All Right, kf
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