September 23, 2024 • 26 mins
Wildfires can release more energy than an atomic bomb. California’s new AI regulations are cracking down on political deepfakes. ‘Do They Have a Case’ with Wayne Resnick.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty And this is KFI.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Bill Handle here on Monday morning, September twenty three.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And some of the stories we are.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Looking at, well paper or plastic right and here in
California and new law kicks in saying those double strength
plastic bags they quote recyclable bags at the supermarket gone
because they're not recyclable and people don't use them recyclable,
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believe they throw.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Them away, they go into landfills. So done.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, a story about the wildfires. And I know you've
heard about wildfires. We've talked about how dangerous they are,
but I want to dive into it a little bit
and give you a little bit of science. Here the
full the first weekend of September, the Line fire, twenty
thousand acres in size three percent contained a resid in
San Bernardino County. On the news describe the sky looking
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exactly like a nuclear warhead had been set off. And
at that point, okay, twenty eight thousand acres in the
line fire already released more energy than a dozen atomic bombs.
And just like nuclear blasts can create their own weather,
so can wildfires.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
When they're big enough. There are four main.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Compounds that come out of one of these wildfires. First
of all, carbon dioxide, right that long term carbon dioxide,
global climate change, that really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Short term, that doesn't really affect us.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Short term smoke, Oh yeah, that's toxic ingredients, carbon monoxide, methane, benzene,
a bunch of others. Then there is heat, which is
kind of obvious, but it's important. And then there is
water vapor, which usually you don't think of being connected.
And putting all that together, man, you've got a mess
on your hands. A plume of smoke, which is the
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most dangerous to your health, can extend hundreds even thousands
of miles.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
The smoke block scatter sunlight.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's how you get the run the red sun effect,
and that actually is dangerous to us because that means
we have a lot of smoke.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We're breathing a lot of smoke.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The next byproduct is heat, again obvious, but look what
happens with heat. Okay, the air rises, right, Hot air
goes up and cold air comes in to fill the vacuum.
So what happens when you blow on a fire. It
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heats up. It's like bellows when you start a fire
in the fireplace and you start with a little kindling
and you blow on it to bring oxygen, so it
really heats up.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, that's what happens in a big, big way, right.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The heat rises, the cold air comes in, or colder
air comes in at the bottom, more oxygen. It gets hotter,
and then that heat rises and more oxygen comes in,
and it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Is a circle.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And it is horrible, and that can produce what's called
the firestorm. And that's when the winds surrounding the fire
directed inwards and it has a feedback effect and there
it's oxygen coming in stoking the fire. More oxygen coming in,
stoking the fire, and it keeps on going until it's its.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Own weather system. Oh man, when it goes the other way.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
By the way, when the fire comes in and it's
spinning out, that means embers are flying out, and for
miles away, the hot embers cause more fires, and firestorms
can create so much heat the firefighters can't get near it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So during World War Two we saw what that did.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
When you had carpet bombing Dresden, Germany, Japan. The damage
much more from the fires than the initial bombing. It
was those fires that cause most of the damage.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Then you have water vapor.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And here's what happens with water vapor, and this I
didn't know until I read this. You have the water
vapor released by combustion, because any vapor is cooked away.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
And it goes into the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So now you have smoke particles in the air produced
by the fire, and then something called condensation nuclei form,
vapor forms around these, and now there are droplets, and
what you have are hot storms, and those storms can
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create lightning. That's why you see lightning at some of
these fires. You go, how is that possible? We had
fires that were happening with lightning. It was one hundred
and fifteen degrees outside. That doesn't make any sense. Well, again,
it's its own weather. Now, the good news is these
water droplets actually end up falling and they help with
the fire, but not enough to overcome the heat the smoke,
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especially when a fire is going crazy and spreading like well,
wildfire and fires, as we know, when they're going up
a hill are about five times more dangerous in that
they are quicker, they are more intense, and.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It is just the god awful mess.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Now we don't have too many firestorms here in southern California.
Because I guess there is a silver lining on that
cloud is because we have a lot of narrow cares,
we have strong prevailing winds and those actually help with
these firestorms.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
But it is not fun. And by the way, since we.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Have climate change, it's going to get worse, and that's
really problematic. More smoke, more firestorms, more weather events.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
None of that is good news. And can you stop it? No,
you can't stop.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Fires from being ignited. That just is impossible. There are
too many arsonists out there. There are too many accidental
fires started when you have catalytic converters and mufflers that
go crazy on the side of the road and all
of a sudden brush starts burning up. You have too
many accidental fires. And the fires now are far more dangerous.
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So is there an answer, Yes, long term climate change,
but it's not going to happen in our lifetimes.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So here is the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
What I suggest you do to save your home is
get tons and tons.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Of fire insurance.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh wait a minute, you can't get fire insurance. I forgot,
So let me give you a takeaway. Your house is
going to burn you are going to die.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay. Now, deep fakes.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Deep fakes are all about deep faking on the Internet
and creating these scenarios that, frankly depending on how good
they are.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Making stuff up on the Internet.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
There's some new laws that have just been passed dealing
with the election cycle coming up and holding these major
platforms accountable.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So let me give you some examples.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Donald Trump shared deep fakes of Taylor Swift and the Swifties,
implying that they supported him. There was one image that
basically Rift and follow the old military recruitment posters Swift
pointing to you and a caption saying, Taylor Swift wants
you to vote for Donald Trump. Remember those wants you
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to sign up Uncle Sam pointing at you during World
War Two. That was sort of a takeoff on that.
Now that to me is almost parody. I don't think
that something like that is a problem. I really don't.
I mean, does anybody think Taylor Swift actually did that?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't think so. There are some subtle ones that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I think can do some real damage, but I think
people are overreacting as to what is going on with
these deep fakes.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Then you had another one, but by the way.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That one almost immediately led to Swift publicly endorsing Kamala Harris,
although she was going to any way just a question
of time. There was an AI generated image from the
Trump campaign where Trump is surrounded by black people to
demonstrate his support among black voters. So, you know, I
don't even know why anybody complains about them, because you
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can legitimately get any group, under any circumstance, on any
venue supporting you. Right, you can't get what Trump can't
get fifteen twenty black supporters. Kamala Harris can't get a
bunch of white supremacs saying that you know, she supports
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them or they support her. Although I don't know what
she would do that, but that's easy to do to
do that. And then another image that Trump shared on X.
He reposted that, and that is Harris speaking at the
DNC surrounded by communist flags. Now, come on, do you
really think that's going to affect people?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Are people that stupid?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Must targeted Newsome by the way, in a post on
x implying that based on the signing of this bill,
Newsom signed a law to.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Make parity illegal.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And parity is always legal because paroity no one really believes.
And most of these deep fakes are so patently ridiculous
and non believable. My favorite one, and this was not
AI generated deep fakes.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
This happened to be in.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
A cartoon in Penthouse and I think it was Jerry Folwell,
there was a cartoon of him leaving an outhouse us
having sex with his mother.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
A little offensive, don't you think? And he sued. He
sued for defamation.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And what the court held was and he was asked this,
by the way, by the defense Penthouse defense, do you
think anybody actually believes that you've had sex with your
mother in an outhouse? Well, no, that's ridiculous. Therefore, where's
the defamation? Do you really believe that? At the DNC
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when Kamalis spoke that there were Commonist flags that were
flying around the stage, do you really believe that? Well no,
not really so the big the examples are pretty blatant parody.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know how you could stop that. Well, what
about Bill? If this is just covering AI.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You know, I've been doing photo retouching and modification and
things like that since I used to do it by
hand without computers. If I generated something in Photoshop, that's
a parody.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
How is that any different.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Because I think it's a question of publication. I think
the Internet and what you can do with AI is
so much more extensive and immediate and much more massive
that there's a genuine fear. We are frightened while AI
is going to be the future. I think people are
legitimately frightened of what AI can do.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And this is here's an example.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And by the way, this bill is only having to
do with the election cycle. It's not across the board.
It's that AI AI generated deep fakes. And by the way,
some are so subtle that you really don't know that
they're AI, and they just are meant to.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Mo the needle a little bit. I have four fingers.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, well those yeah, but people but here's people don't
notice for fingers, they don't notice it and they do
their job. So it's so it's not done well, all right,
So AI has to be tweaked a little bit, so
people have five fingers. But there is very sophisticated propaganda
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and it really is coming in from Iran, from Russia,
meant to simply influence. I think that's the real fear,
not communist flags flying at the DNC.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I don't think that is a big issue.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And now it is time for do they have a
case with Wayne and me? And i'n't talked about the
rules in a while, so let me set this up.
Wayne does research on cases that are either pinning or
have been decided, usually by the appeals court, and it
is the case of first impression. I have no idea
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what the case is about, having generally not heard about
it as you are hearing it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So Wayne Resnik, let's start.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Okay, Now, in the unlikely event that your daughter Barbara
is listening, Barbara go away. You don't want to hear
this case because it involves one of your heroes, Brett
Farv and Bill. You remember the controversy over Brett Farvin
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the use of some charitable monies and government assistance monies
for untoward purpose, not untoward purposes, but unauthorized purposes, such
as building a volleyball stadium at the University of Southern Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Remember that was in there where his daughter went and
she was on the volleyball team, and he built that
stadium with.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I'm gonna say allegedly only because he has been very
litigious and I don't want to get sued with some
COVID era assistance funds temporary assist for needy family funds
that came into Mississippi and ended up some of it
to being used on this stadium.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So anyway, and.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
There was another incident where he was involved in a
charity and the apparently there was money for speaking that
he didn't do, which he paid all of that back
before Mississippi sued him for any of the financial stuff.
In any event, he is a football great, would we agree, absolutely?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And also a football great. Uh Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Who is also a Super Bowl winner and all of that,
who of course is on a show with Skip Bayliss
called Undisputed, where he said talking about this situation after
an article was published in Mississippi Today summarizing the situation,
said one the problem I have with this situation, You've
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got to be a sorry mofo to steal from the
lowest of the low because that assistance money was meant
to go for poor people. Also, Brett Farv is taking
from the underserved, and Brett Favre stole money from people
that really needed that money. Brett Farv sued Shannon Sharp
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for defamation saying, you are damaging my reputation, you are
accusing me of crimes, and I want a lot of
money from you, and I want you to shut up.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
The lower court said, you know what, those statements are
just hyperbole. They're rhetorical hyperbole, and they're protected by the
First Amendment. And mister Brett farv. You have no case.
And mister Brett Farb wasn't happy with that decision, so
he took it up to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
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What say you, does he have a case against Shannon Sharp?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Okay, let me ask.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Just for a moment, I think you said it, but
I want you to RepA and that is he paid
all the money back and it ended.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The case disappear. As far as the authorities were concerned.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, there were never any criminal charges.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
There were never any criminal It was a civil lawsuit
by the Mississippi Department of Human Services.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Okay, the use of this assistance.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Money, Okay, what happened to that case that got resolved?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
He paid a bunch of money.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Back, Okay, So that's fine, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
At the time, Just so you understand, at the time,
this was.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
A live case, Okay, that was going on from the state.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Okay, So with that, if he mentioned, if the commentators
the football player, as a matter of facts, that he
stole money, he took money.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That is used for underdeserved people.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Although there's a defense that you can always use a
volleyball net for fishing, and you can. There's there's a
whole world of that, but that's in a different direction.
And the accusation of criminal activity and the accusation of
beyond that underserved people. Even though bet Brett Favre is
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a public figure, of which the rules are, it's much
harder for public figures to argue defamation. I think enough
was there where defamation does fly, especially the fact that
he's a thief, the fact that he's a criminal. I mean,
there was a I don't think you can say that
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and get away and argue First Amendment. Well, the court
went the other way, is what you're saying. The court
went the other way and doubled down.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
First of all, First of all, they specifically said that
when Shannon Sharp said Brett Favre stole money from people
that really needed that money, the court said that was
rhetorical hyperbole because no reasonable person would believe that Shannon
Sharp was saying that Brett Farv went into the houses
of poor people and took things from them.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, come on, well you can't. So the only way
you can steal is to go into houses. You cannot
steal institutionally. You can't steal money from programs that are
used to help the poor.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That is insane for the court to say that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
They also said, whether or not it's hyperbole, is not
really where we're gonna come down anyway, because we're gonna
say everything he said was based on what was in
the Mississippi Today article.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
He was relying on publicly reported.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Information informing his statements and opinions. He did not bring
his own alleged information about Brett Farv into the situation.
He did not say or intimate that he had special
secret information that was causing him to say what he said.
He was relying on the article, and apparently if you
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rely on an article and say a lot of stuff,
you have more protection than if you're just talking based
on nothing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I just don't I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I really don't get it, truly, because I'm sorry, my
phone is going off.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I didn't turn on silent okay.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So therefore, if an article comes out in whatever publication
arguing that you Wayne have engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct,
I can say as a fact, Wayne has sex with goats.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Factually, that's what.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The article said.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
If the article did say that, Let's say the article
accuses you, say, there's an investigation. There is a someone
assuing you for having sex with their goat, okay, and
you have ruined the value of their champion goat because
you have stook the goat?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
All right? Can I then? Am I not allowed to sue?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Come on, I'll give me if you read that article
and then you came on the air and said, oh,
that pervert.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well I understand. Had he said said had you.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Would be protected probably that's a great writer of the article.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Wouldn't necessary?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
That is that's insanity because of you take an allegation
and you make it fact just because.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You read it. Now, if he had.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Said, uh, Brett Favara was accused of this, that's very
different than he is a pervert or he is a thief.
All right, We're gonna that side. Don't know where the
court went. Let's take a break. Sex with goats, okay?
Wayne should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Sorry, all right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We finish up.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
With Wayne Resnik on a Monday, as we always do do.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
They have a case.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Guy goes to a fair at the high school. He
is part of the camera club in the town and
he's got a new lens and he wants to try
it out. So he climbs up on one of the
slides and he takes a few pictures of this ride
they have that has a big mural on it. Two
minutes total of the amount of time that he was
taking pictures.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And then he's just walking around the.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Fair when a cop comes up to him and says,
what's your name? And he says why, And the next
thing you know, he's on the ground being handcuffed, other
cops coming over to help subdue him, although he didn't
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he wasn't really subdued because he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Fighting, and was ultimately.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Arrested for resisting arrest. So he assumes the cop and says,
excuse me, you have prist of all, you had no
reason to even come up to me, and number two,
you can't arrest me for asking why.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
The cop says, hey, here in this is in Louisiana.
Here in Louisiana, you have to identify yourself to a
police officer. You don't have to give them a piece
of identification, but you have to identify yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So when you.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Said why, that's like refusing to identify yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And then his lawyers say, oh, you only have.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
To identify yourself after you've been arrested. And I said
why before you arrested me? So number one, that doesn't work.
Number two saying why is not refusing to identify myself.
I would like to sue the But Jesus out of you,
does this guy have a case against this cop?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh? I have a couple of questions. Number one or
a statement. Number one, this is Louise and I immediately
start saying, this is Louisiana. Number two and I just
this is just a sidebar. But maybe you know that
is his name?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Why?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
No, it's Michael Holmes. Both it's an abbit in Costello routine.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yes, so the.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Judge, yes, he's very good.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, I'm going to argue, and this again, I questioned Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I am going to argue.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That a cop can't just arbitrarily come up to someone
and just say, what's your name? Was there a complaint.
Did the cops say that he thought he was photographing
inappropriately even if he wasn't, But just going up to
someone and saying, what's your name? I don't think cuts it.
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Number two asking why that, I don't think that's that's
a refusal. I think the word why. All the cop
has to say it to him is because and give
him almost any reason or say uh no, that would
be it. I think he I think the cop has
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to say, here is the reason why, and by the way,
why you're you know, I like the way you're dressed today,
and so I don't I gotta tell you, I don't
see it other than it's Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That That is what I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Thinking, is that it's the fifth district you know of
of appeal.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So you know, there's my answer. I don't think I
think he has a case.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Yes, as crazy as you thought the court was in
the first case, you will love you will find the
court to be imminently sensible.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
In this case. He's got a big, fat, juicy case.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Absolutely all right, We'll do this again next next week,
as we always do, Yes, sir, in case say thirty
that's it, guys, we are done again. We start tomorrow
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Bill Handle here on Monday morning, September twenty three.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And some of the stories we are.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Looking at, well paper or plastic right and here in
California and new law kicks in saying those double strength
plastic bags they quote recyclable bags at the supermarket gone
because they're not recyclable and people don't use them recyclable,
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believe they throw.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Them away, they go into landfills. So done.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, a story about the wildfires. And I know you've
heard about wildfires. We've talked about how dangerous they are,
but I want to dive into it a little bit
and give you a little bit of science. Here the
full the first weekend of September, the Line fire, twenty
thousand acres in size three percent contained a resid in
San Bernardino County. On the news describe the sky looking
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exactly like a nuclear warhead had been set off. And
at that point, okay, twenty eight thousand acres in the
line fire already released more energy than a dozen atomic bombs.
And just like nuclear blasts can create their own weather,
so can wildfires.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
When they're big enough. There are four main.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Compounds that come out of one of these wildfires. First
of all, carbon dioxide, right that long term carbon dioxide,
global climate change, that really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Short term, that doesn't really affect us.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Short term smoke, Oh yeah, that's toxic ingredients, carbon monoxide, methane, benzene,
a bunch of others. Then there is heat, which is
kind of obvious, but it's important. And then there is
water vapor, which usually you don't think of being connected.
And putting all that together, man, you've got a mess
on your hands. A plume of smoke, which is the
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most dangerous to your health, can extend hundreds even thousands
of miles.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
The smoke block scatter sunlight.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's how you get the run the red sun effect,
and that actually is dangerous to us because that means
we have a lot of smoke.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We're breathing a lot of smoke.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The next byproduct is heat, again obvious, but look what
happens with heat. Okay, the air rises, right, Hot air
goes up and cold air comes in to fill the vacuum.
So what happens when you blow on a fire. It
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heats up. It's like bellows when you start a fire
in the fireplace and you start with a little kindling
and you blow on it to bring oxygen, so it
really heats up.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, that's what happens in a big, big way, right.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The heat rises, the cold air comes in, or colder
air comes in at the bottom, more oxygen. It gets hotter,
and then that heat rises and more oxygen comes in,
and it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Is a circle.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And it is horrible, and that can produce what's called
the firestorm. And that's when the winds surrounding the fire
directed inwards and it has a feedback effect and there
it's oxygen coming in stoking the fire. More oxygen coming in,
stoking the fire, and it keeps on going until it's its.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Own weather system. Oh man, when it goes the other way.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
By the way, when the fire comes in and it's
spinning out, that means embers are flying out, and for
miles away, the hot embers cause more fires, and firestorms
can create so much heat the firefighters can't get near it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So during World War Two we saw what that did.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
When you had carpet bombing Dresden, Germany, Japan. The damage
much more from the fires than the initial bombing. It
was those fires that cause most of the damage.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Then you have water vapor.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And here's what happens with water vapor, and this I
didn't know until I read this. You have the water
vapor released by combustion, because any vapor is cooked away.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
And it goes into the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So now you have smoke particles in the air produced
by the fire, and then something called condensation nuclei form,
vapor forms around these, and now there are droplets, and
what you have are hot storms, and those storms can
(05:03):
create lightning. That's why you see lightning at some of
these fires. You go, how is that possible? We had
fires that were happening with lightning. It was one hundred
and fifteen degrees outside. That doesn't make any sense. Well, again,
it's its own weather. Now, the good news is these
water droplets actually end up falling and they help with
the fire, but not enough to overcome the heat the smoke,
(05:29):
especially when a fire is going crazy and spreading like well,
wildfire and fires, as we know, when they're going up
a hill are about five times more dangerous in that
they are quicker, they are more intense, and.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It is just the god awful mess.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Now we don't have too many firestorms here in southern California.
Because I guess there is a silver lining on that
cloud is because we have a lot of narrow cares,
we have strong prevailing winds and those actually help with
these firestorms.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
But it is not fun. And by the way, since we.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Have climate change, it's going to get worse, and that's
really problematic. More smoke, more firestorms, more weather events.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
None of that is good news. And can you stop it? No,
you can't stop.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Fires from being ignited. That just is impossible. There are
too many arsonists out there. There are too many accidental
fires started when you have catalytic converters and mufflers that
go crazy on the side of the road and all
of a sudden brush starts burning up. You have too
many accidental fires. And the fires now are far more dangerous.
(06:57):
So is there an answer, Yes, long term climate change,
but it's not going to happen in our lifetimes.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So here is the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
What I suggest you do to save your home is
get tons and tons.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Of fire insurance.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh wait a minute, you can't get fire insurance. I forgot,
So let me give you a takeaway. Your house is
going to burn you are going to die.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay. Now, deep fakes.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Deep fakes are all about deep faking on the Internet
and creating these scenarios that, frankly depending on how good
they are.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Making stuff up on the Internet.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
There's some new laws that have just been passed dealing
with the election cycle coming up and holding these major
platforms accountable.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So let me give you some examples.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Donald Trump shared deep fakes of Taylor Swift and the Swifties,
implying that they supported him. There was one image that
basically Rift and follow the old military recruitment posters Swift
pointing to you and a caption saying, Taylor Swift wants
you to vote for Donald Trump. Remember those wants you
(08:24):
to sign up Uncle Sam pointing at you during World
War Two. That was sort of a takeoff on that.
Now that to me is almost parody. I don't think
that something like that is a problem. I really don't.
I mean, does anybody think Taylor Swift actually did that?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't think so. There are some subtle ones that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I think can do some real damage, but I think
people are overreacting as to what is going on with
these deep fakes.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Then you had another one, but by the way.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That one almost immediately led to Swift publicly endorsing Kamala Harris,
although she was going to any way just a question
of time. There was an AI generated image from the
Trump campaign where Trump is surrounded by black people to
demonstrate his support among black voters. So, you know, I
don't even know why anybody complains about them, because you
(09:27):
can legitimately get any group, under any circumstance, on any
venue supporting you. Right, you can't get what Trump can't
get fifteen twenty black supporters. Kamala Harris can't get a
bunch of white supremacs saying that you know, she supports
(09:49):
them or they support her. Although I don't know what
she would do that, but that's easy to do to
do that. And then another image that Trump shared on X.
He reposted that, and that is Harris speaking at the
DNC surrounded by communist flags. Now, come on, do you
really think that's going to affect people?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Are people that stupid?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Must targeted Newsome by the way, in a post on
x implying that based on the signing of this bill,
Newsom signed a law to.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Make parity illegal.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And parity is always legal because paroity no one really believes.
And most of these deep fakes are so patently ridiculous
and non believable. My favorite one, and this was not
AI generated deep fakes.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
This happened to be in.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
A cartoon in Penthouse and I think it was Jerry Folwell,
there was a cartoon of him leaving an outhouse us
having sex with his mother.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
A little offensive, don't you think? And he sued. He
sued for defamation.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And what the court held was and he was asked this,
by the way, by the defense Penthouse defense, do you
think anybody actually believes that you've had sex with your
mother in an outhouse? Well, no, that's ridiculous. Therefore, where's
the defamation? Do you really believe that? At the DNC
(11:36):
when Kamalis spoke that there were Commonist flags that were
flying around the stage, do you really believe that? Well no,
not really so the big the examples are pretty blatant parody.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know how you could stop that. Well, what
about Bill? If this is just covering AI.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You know, I've been doing photo retouching and modification and
things like that since I used to do it by
hand without computers. If I generated something in Photoshop, that's
a parody.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
How is that any different.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Because I think it's a question of publication. I think
the Internet and what you can do with AI is
so much more extensive and immediate and much more massive
that there's a genuine fear. We are frightened while AI
is going to be the future. I think people are
legitimately frightened of what AI can do.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And this is here's an example.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And by the way, this bill is only having to
do with the election cycle. It's not across the board.
It's that AI AI generated deep fakes. And by the way,
some are so subtle that you really don't know that
they're AI, and they just are meant to.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Mo the needle a little bit. I have four fingers.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, well those yeah, but people but here's people don't
notice for fingers, they don't notice it and they do
their job. So it's so it's not done well, all right,
So AI has to be tweaked a little bit, so
people have five fingers. But there is very sophisticated propaganda
(13:21):
and it really is coming in from Iran, from Russia,
meant to simply influence. I think that's the real fear,
not communist flags flying at the DNC.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I don't think that is a big issue.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And now it is time for do they have a
case with Wayne and me? And i'n't talked about the
rules in a while, so let me set this up.
Wayne does research on cases that are either pinning or
have been decided, usually by the appeals court, and it
is the case of first impression. I have no idea
(13:54):
what the case is about, having generally not heard about
it as you are hearing it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So Wayne Resnik, let's start.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Okay, Now, in the unlikely event that your daughter Barbara
is listening, Barbara go away. You don't want to hear
this case because it involves one of your heroes, Brett
Farv and Bill. You remember the controversy over Brett Farvin
(14:23):
the use of some charitable monies and government assistance monies
for untoward purpose, not untoward purposes, but unauthorized purposes, such
as building a volleyball stadium at the University of Southern Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Remember that was in there where his daughter went and
she was on the volleyball team, and he built that
stadium with.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I'm gonna say allegedly only because he has been very
litigious and I don't want to get sued with some
COVID era assistance funds temporary assist for needy family funds
that came into Mississippi and ended up some of it
to being used on this stadium.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So anyway, and.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
There was another incident where he was involved in a
charity and the apparently there was money for speaking that
he didn't do, which he paid all of that back
before Mississippi sued him for any of the financial stuff.
In any event, he is a football great, would we agree, absolutely?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And also a football great. Uh Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Who is also a Super Bowl winner and all of that,
who of course is on a show with Skip Bayliss
called Undisputed, where he said talking about this situation after
an article was published in Mississippi Today summarizing the situation,
said one the problem I have with this situation, You've
(15:57):
got to be a sorry mofo to steal from the
lowest of the low because that assistance money was meant
to go for poor people. Also, Brett Farv is taking
from the underserved, and Brett Favre stole money from people
that really needed that money. Brett Farv sued Shannon Sharp
(16:17):
for defamation saying, you are damaging my reputation, you are
accusing me of crimes, and I want a lot of
money from you, and I want you to shut up.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
The lower court said, you know what, those statements are
just hyperbole. They're rhetorical hyperbole, and they're protected by the
First Amendment. And mister Brett farv. You have no case.
And mister Brett Farb wasn't happy with that decision, so
he took it up to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
(16:50):
What say you, does he have a case against Shannon Sharp?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Okay, let me ask.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Just for a moment, I think you said it, but
I want you to RepA and that is he paid
all the money back and it ended.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The case disappear. As far as the authorities were concerned.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well, there were never any criminal charges.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
There were never any criminal It was a civil lawsuit
by the Mississippi Department of Human Services.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Okay, the use of this assistance.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Money, Okay, what happened to that case that got resolved?
Speaker 1 (17:22):
He paid a bunch of money.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Back, Okay, So that's fine, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
At the time, Just so you understand, at the time,
this was.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
A live case, Okay, that was going on from the state.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Okay, So with that, if he mentioned, if the commentators
the football player, as a matter of facts, that he
stole money, he took money.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That is used for underdeserved people.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Although there's a defense that you can always use a
volleyball net for fishing, and you can. There's there's a
whole world of that, but that's in a different direction.
And the accusation of criminal activity and the accusation of
beyond that underserved people. Even though bet Brett Favre is
(18:15):
a public figure, of which the rules are, it's much
harder for public figures to argue defamation. I think enough
was there where defamation does fly, especially the fact that
he's a thief, the fact that he's a criminal. I mean,
there was a I don't think you can say that
(18:37):
and get away and argue First Amendment. Well, the court
went the other way, is what you're saying. The court
went the other way and doubled down.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
First of all, First of all, they specifically said that
when Shannon Sharp said Brett Favre stole money from people
that really needed that money, the court said that was
rhetorical hyperbole because no reasonable person would believe that Shannon
Sharp was saying that Brett Farv went into the houses
of poor people and took things from them.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, come on, well you can't. So the only way
you can steal is to go into houses. You cannot
steal institutionally. You can't steal money from programs that are
used to help the poor.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That is insane for the court to say that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
They also said, whether or not it's hyperbole, is not
really where we're gonna come down anyway, because we're gonna
say everything he said was based on what was in
the Mississippi Today article.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
He was relying on publicly reported.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Information informing his statements and opinions. He did not bring
his own alleged information about Brett Farv into the situation.
He did not say or intimate that he had special
secret information that was causing him to say what he said.
He was relying on the article, and apparently if you
(20:09):
rely on an article and say a lot of stuff,
you have more protection than if you're just talking based
on nothing.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I just don't I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I really don't get it, truly, because I'm sorry, my
phone is going off.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I didn't turn on silent okay.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So therefore, if an article comes out in whatever publication
arguing that you Wayne have engaged in inappropriate sexual conduct,
I can say as a fact, Wayne has sex with goats.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Factually, that's what.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The article said.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
If the article did say that, Let's say the article
accuses you, say, there's an investigation. There is a someone
assuing you for having sex with their goat, okay, and
you have ruined the value of their champion goat because
you have stook the goat?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
All right? Can I then? Am I not allowed to sue?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Come on, I'll give me if you read that article
and then you came on the air and said, oh,
that pervert.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well I understand. Had he said said had you.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Would be protected probably that's a great writer of the article.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Wouldn't necessary?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
That is that's insanity because of you take an allegation
and you make it fact just because.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You read it. Now, if he had.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Said, uh, Brett Favara was accused of this, that's very
different than he is a pervert or he is a thief.
All right, We're gonna that side. Don't know where the
court went. Let's take a break. Sex with goats, okay?
Wayne should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Sorry, all right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We finish up.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
With Wayne Resnik on a Monday, as we always do do.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
They have a case.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Guy goes to a fair at the high school. He
is part of the camera club in the town and
he's got a new lens and he wants to try
it out. So he climbs up on one of the
slides and he takes a few pictures of this ride
they have that has a big mural on it. Two
minutes total of the amount of time that he was
taking pictures.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And then he's just walking around the.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Fair when a cop comes up to him and says,
what's your name? And he says why, And the next
thing you know, he's on the ground being handcuffed, other
cops coming over to help subdue him, although he didn't
(22:42):
he wasn't really subdued because he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Fighting, and was ultimately.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Arrested for resisting arrest. So he assumes the cop and says,
excuse me, you have prist of all, you had no
reason to even come up to me, and number two,
you can't arrest me for asking why.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
The cop says, hey, here in this is in Louisiana.
Here in Louisiana, you have to identify yourself to a
police officer. You don't have to give them a piece
of identification, but you have to identify yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So when you.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Said why, that's like refusing to identify yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And then his lawyers say, oh, you only have.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
To identify yourself after you've been arrested. And I said
why before you arrested me? So number one, that doesn't work.
Number two saying why is not refusing to identify myself.
I would like to sue the But Jesus out of you,
does this guy have a case against this cop?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh? I have a couple of questions. Number one or
a statement. Number one, this is Louise and I immediately
start saying, this is Louisiana. Number two and I just
this is just a sidebar. But maybe you know that
is his name?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Why?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
No, it's Michael Holmes. Both it's an abbit in Costello routine.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yes, so the.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Judge, yes, he's very good.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, I'm going to argue, and this again, I questioned Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I am going to argue.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That a cop can't just arbitrarily come up to someone
and just say, what's your name? Was there a complaint.
Did the cops say that he thought he was photographing
inappropriately even if he wasn't, But just going up to
someone and saying, what's your name? I don't think cuts it.
(24:55):
Number two asking why that, I don't think that's that's
a refusal. I think the word why. All the cop
has to say it to him is because and give
him almost any reason or say uh no, that would
be it. I think he I think the cop has
(25:15):
to say, here is the reason why, and by the way,
why you're you know, I like the way you're dressed today,
and so I don't I gotta tell you, I don't
see it other than it's Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That That is what I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Thinking, is that it's the fifth district you know of
of appeal.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So you know, there's my answer. I don't think I
think he has a case.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Yes, as crazy as you thought the court was in
the first case, you will love you will find the
court to be imminently sensible.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
In this case. He's got a big, fat, juicy case.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Absolutely all right, We'll do this again next next week,
as we always do, Yes, sir, in case say thirty
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