October 4, 2024 • 27 mins
Californians broadly support prop.36 to get tougher on crime, poll shows. Menendez brothers murder case: D.A. investigating new evidence. Legislators could override nearly every Newsom veto… why don’t they? Please don’t make me download another app.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And this is KFI AM six forty handle. Here it
is a footy Friday, October.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Fourth, going back to nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Anybody who was around is going to remember this, unless
you were born in nineteen eighty eight, then you're probably
not going.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
To remember this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This was the Menendez brothers the trial thirty years back.
Eric and Lyle Menendez killed their parents. Boy, it was
a case that literally was covered all over the country.
It's just one of those big ones. So they were
accused of killing their parents.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
They did. They killed their parents.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That doesn't seem to be that big of an issue
except for them, of course. They got life imprisonment without
possibility to parole.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They got l lot for that one.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
They argued that the elder Menendez Jose, their dad, abused them, sexually,
abused them, and threatened them and threatened to kill them
if they said anything about the abuse. And the first trial,
by the way, that was sort of brought up and
the jury was hung, so that means a second trial.
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Most of that evidence was not brought up in the
second trial. The abuse argument was not really brought up
and they were then convicted and were sentenced to life imprisonment. Well,
there is a Peacock documentary that is out there and
it's called Menendez plus Menudo Boys Betrayed. And what it
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does is in terms of pushing the scenario that why Neil,
it's Menendez plus Menudo?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
No, what does Minudo have to do with it?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, here we go, because the pop band Minudo ah
was created by a guy who is now being accused
of bringing one of the young Minudo boys to Jose
Menendez's home.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The kid was raped on.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Now you get it. Yeah, there you go, Menanda.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's not the name of a dish.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know. There's normal Manudo and then there's Menendez Manunda Menudo.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
See, that's why he does Foody Friday. This is why
we love Neil so much. In any case, there's that
Peacock docu series and it raises all kinds of allegations
that Jose Menendez dad assaulted a former member of the
nineteen eighties pop band Menudo, and that the head of
the Menudos, the guy who created him, brings this kid
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to Jose Menendez who then rapes and drugs this kid
when he was thirteen or fourteen years old, and this
guy Roy Rosello said that's exactly what happened, and suggested
the whole thing was to seal a deal between the
band and RCA Records, which Jose Menendez was a big hauncho.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He was an executive. So it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Now they're saying Gascon is saying, we really have to
take a look at this, and he's thinking about either
asking for a new trial or I mean they're talking about,
you know, letting him go. Of course that's crazy, but
because you know, gascoll And said, yeah, they did it.
But here's the defense is there are unique self defense
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and real self defense is if your life is in
danger at that moment.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So that's not gonna fly. But this is a.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Mitigation, you know, if the jury is saying, wait a minute,
there really was a lot of abuse here. It's not
quite the same as blowing your parents' heads off for
just money.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And that's that was the original argument.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
The Kyle that the two Menendez boys, Eric and Lyle,
all they were interested was money. And by the way,
after the parents were killed, they bought themselves Rolex watches
and they were happy campers there wasn't a lot of
remorse or they weren't too unhappy that mom and dad
were killed. By the way, mom and dad were in
the house watching a movie when the boys came up
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with a shotgun, blew Jose's head off, and then shot
the mother who was crawling along the floor, and killed her.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
With another shotgun blast. Nice case.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
In any case, here's what's happening, is this information came
up and there is a letter that's supposedly written by
I think it was Eric, eight months before the murder,
in which he talked about the abuse of his father
and that he was being threatened by his.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Dad, which I'm surprised they didn't come up in the trial.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But at this point it was just found. So the defense,
just the attorneys for the Menendez just happened to find it.
And there's some logic to it. You know, it was
held by I think grandmother or something until she died.
So in any case, here's George Gascon looking at this
and going, wow, we have new evidence. Now I happen
to be a fan of if you really have new evidence,
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you open this thing up. You know a lot of
times when they have DNA that now basically proves someone
was not there. Do you know that prosecutors and judges
appella judges will say too late, too bad, you didn't
bring it up in time, But I have.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Proof that we didn't. He didn't do it, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You have time limits here, and so we'll see what
happens with the DA. Now, Gascone, Well, he's certainly not
going to say. I don't think he's going to say,
let's retry him, because everybody knows. I mean, there was
no issue. Their defense was not they didn't do it.
Their defense was that it was self defense. And so
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is he going to ask for a re sentencing hearing
where a judge can lower it to let's say, life
imprisonment with the possibility of parole. Well, they've been in
jail for thirty years and they've been model prisoners, and
they've done everything that is being asked.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Of them, and they were helping other prisoners, you know,
the normal crap.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You know, we're helping other prisoners, you know, we you know,
we found God and we're sort of chaplains and helping
everybody with you know, their views on life and making
them making life easier for their prisoners with a religious bent.
That typically happens. So I wonder where George.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Gascone is going to go to this. Now would I
look at this?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I put myself in the shoes, and I'm not a
big gas goone fan, and.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I consider myself, yeah, you know pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I would say conservative when it comes to crime and sentencing,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But I would look at it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I would look at it because if it was legitimate
self defense, not self defense at that moment, but the
abuse and the rapes and the threats about the rapes
from Dad were part of it, I wouldn't give them
life in prison without possibility of parole. I would look
at parole thirty years later. So we'll see what the
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DA does. We'll see what to see. Now, guess what
A book is about to be published by Milania Trump,
and we're talking next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's going to be published.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And it turns out that she is a passionate supporter
of a woman's right to control her own body. And
I mean not just she's pro choice. She is pro
choice with a capital P. And here's what she writes
in this memoir quote, it is imperative to guarantee that
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women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children
based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or
pressure from the government.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
No room for compromise.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the
power to determine what she does with her own body.
A woman's fundamental right of individual liberty to her own
life grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if
she wishes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And there's more.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Restricting a woman's right to choose whether to terminate an
unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over
her own body. I have carried this belief with me
throughout my entire life.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now, this GE's kind of interesting, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And by the way, I think Donald Trump handled this
very well when he was asked about this.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean, there really is only one answer, and that
he gave it and.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Is the appropriate to answer. And that is real simple.
She has her own opinions. I'm never going to tell
her what to do, and if it's contrary to my opinion,
so be it. What is interesting about this book is
that this is a woman who does not like publicity.
She is one of the shyest in terms of not
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being a public figure of any first lady that I
remember maybe Laura Bush.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, not even no.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, she's beyond Laura Bush in terms of privacy. And
for her to come out with this strength with her
pro choice philosophy, first of all, is in direct contradiction
of most of the Republican or a good part of
the Republican Party. And she is I don't know if
the ads are going to be in terms of those
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states where reproductive rights are in question. She also there
was a post did on social media. I don't know
what platform it is, and she talks about this right out.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
She looks at the camera and says she is pro abortion. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Her husband, Donald Trump, as we know, is sort of
taking both sides of it. First of all, he talks
about how proud he is of selecting those three Supreme
Court judges.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Is that killed Roe v. Wade? I told you I
was going to do it. I did it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And at the same time, because of the backlash and
there's tons of it from women about reproductive rights, he's
backed up and said, no, no, I wanted to leave
it to the states. I didn't want to kill abortion.
I just wanted to leave it to the states, which, yeah,
I don't know you know, that's kind of wish you
why she But that's a presidential candidate. You have to
pander to everybody, and he is. And it's not as
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if Kamala Harris is not pandering either. But it's kind
of interesting that Milania Trump came out this strongly. Also,
she disagrees with Donald Trump on aspects of immigration policy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
She is an immigrant.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
She comes from somewhere in Eastern Europe, Czechoslovakia or whatever
country she comes from, and became a US citizen.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And I saw she is clearly legal.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
She got a green card like everybody else got a
green card, become a US citizen. And so this is
an American speaking. But when you come from another country
and you adopt this country, and that's exactly what my
parents did, and that's exactly how I view it, you
think differently about immigration now, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I don't think I think you got to be legal.
It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I'm not a big fan of those people that come
over here illegally, but that is you know, I've talked
about it. You know where I stand on this, and
we've had discussions about this and their story after story.
The interesting one is Malania Trump coming out this strongly,
and I mean really strongly in favor of reproductive rights.
And then one of the things I have always said,
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with the exception for rape and incests, which most of
those that are pro that are pro life say, I
have to tell you, I don't get it. If life
is sacrisanct, why is it any sacrissainct if rape happens
or incest happens. Now, obviously the girl gets raped, and
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sometimes down to fourteen years old or fifteen years old,
of course she's going to be devastated.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Of course her life.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Is going to take a turn, and she'd probably have
to deal with for the rest of her life. But
if life is sacrisanct, why is it less sacrissaninct under
these conditions. Now it's easy for me because I'm about
as pro abortion as you can get, so I don't
have a problem in arguing that a woman has the
absolute right to make a decision about her body. But
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there is a very interesting dilemma going on amongst the
pro life crowd where the number of people who say,
oh yeah, no exception for rape or insect herschel Walker
got in a lot of trouble for that.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I got to tell you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
These are the people that I don't think I have
a dilemma, a moral dilemma at all, as I don't
have a moral dilemma in being pro choice. So it's
interesting dichotomy. What's going on. Oh and there's also a
story that she wanted a quarter of a million dollars
to do an interview on CNN, and that's coming out,
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and I don't know how much of it that's true.
It's like she needs a quarter of a million dollars. Yeah,
I don't think so. Okay, Now, a story about overrides
and overrides of a decision that the governor makes in California.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Now, there's a supermajority.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
In this state, which means that if you have two
thirds of both houses, that can be any governor signing
any veto can be overridden with two thirds majority. I mean,
that's easy. If in this the legislature passes a bill
and in one case, I'm talking about a bill that
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was seventy zero in the Assembly and only two in
thirty eight two.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
In the Senate.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You think that's enough to override the veto?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It wasn't. Veto was not overridden.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You know, in the last time a governor's a governor's
veto was overridden in California. Nineteen seventy nine was the
last time there was a veto overridden. Why would that happen?
You have a state legislature, Senate, and the Assembly that
passes almost unanimously a bill.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And the governor goes no vetoing it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You think they would override it. Nope, they don't. Now
is the governor that powerful? Yeah? Taking a page out
of Donald Trump's power in the Republican Party. No one
in California is willing to take a chance, No legislatoror
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is willing to take a chance of overriding a governor's veto.
And you wonder why, Well, it's a modern day version.
And this is according to a politics professor University of California, Berkeley,
it's the modern day version of if you come after
the King, you'd better not miss. So Monday was the
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deadline for the governor to act on twelve hundred bills
that the legislature sent to his desk, and he either
signs them or he vetoes them, and he vetoed about
almost sixteen percent of the total bills pass That's a
lot of veto and for different reasons.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
He vetoed it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And by the way, the governor also signs a veto
message when he vetos it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Usually there's a veto.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Messays explaining why and he did it for different reasons.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
According to those messages, thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Due to budget concerns too much money, twenty seven percent
due to disagreements over policy. Now we disagree on policy,
another twenty two because they were unnecessary or stepped on
the toes of other state agencies or local governments.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
There was a content flicked.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's what happened to me when I was involved in
writing a surrogacy bill in the mid eighties, and I
got both And this was a lot of politics. There
were a lot of It's not me. I just happened
to be involved in writing the bill. There were a
lot of reproductive people involved, and there were a lot
of labs IVF labs that were part of it. And
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we got it passed and the governor vetoed it, and
his reason was, no, there really isn't an issue here.
Faing broke, don't fix it. No one's ever been nailed
on this issue. And it had to do with the
upholding of a surrogacy conentre, He goes, you know what,
it's no big deal, I'm vetoing it. It took the
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California's Supreme Court to establish the law. But the point
is that was part of the veto message, and in
that case it was pretty close that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It would never have been overridden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But can you imagine a bill that literally you're talking
one hundred percent of the Assembly, ninety five percent of
the Senate, and they won't override it. There is there
isn't even a motion to override. Does the governor have
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that much power where if the legislature overrides his veto?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Apparently yes.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We look at the power of Donald Trump over the
Republican Party, which is enormous. You don't go if you're
a Republican, you don't go against former President Trump. Looks
like the same thing is happening in California.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
A legislator does not go against what the governor wants. Now,
the governor says, there are three governor's office, there are
three branches of government, and if the legislature disagrees with
what the executive branch read the governor does, well that's
their prerogative.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It turns out there really isn't a prerogative.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Turns out you don't take a chance because it looks
like a governor has that much power and can simply.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Say that guy is out.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Even to the point where Scott Wiener, probably i would say,
the most liberal senator out there, introduced a bill to
reduce drug costs and Newsom overrode that, or Newsom vetoed it.
Why because there it wasn't powerful enough. Therefore, I'm going
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to veto this. We need more information. Really, you ever
heard of something called first steps? So Wiener said, this
is a bad veto. I disagree. The citizens of California
must be protected against big pharma and these ridiculous drug costs.
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And so he said, outright, bad, bad boy. You shouldn't
have vetoed it. Does he move for an override? No,
no he doesn't. He didn't have the balls to do
that or the hashim to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
All right, So much for that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
All right, I'm looking at my phone and I've got
how many, yeah, maybe two dozen apps on my phone,
maybe a little more, and that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
How many apps do you have on your phone? Neil, Oh,
don't even get me started. Amy. How many apps?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Like ten? Pages of them?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Ten pages? All right? And how many apps? Same thing?
About about six pages? And cono, can you afford a phone? Yes? Okay?
And how many how many apps do you have? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Good for you countered him? Okay, so I have the fewest.
Because I have the fewest. There's a few that I
don't even know I had.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And I have no idea. I have a fitness app.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh god, you think I look at that one. No,
so I've got a few shortcuts. I don't even know
what that app is. Nord passed, no idea what that?
What that is?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The rest of them? Are you know? Pretty good? Monarch?
What the hell is monarch?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, it is, thank you. I have no idea what
that app is.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The point is we are apped to death, to the
point where how many apps are there? The last time
I think that, I remember Apple came out with account
of apps, it was four hundred thousand. Now i'm and
that was years ago. Now I'm assuming it's in the millions.
And think of how pervasive. Okay, of course Apple McDonald's
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has one, but Duncan has one, Every chain restaurant has one.
Every food delivery service Uber eats, all of them. Home
depot loads, Target, Ikia, Walmart, Whole Foods.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
How about paying.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
For products and services on your app? Venmo, cash app, PayPal,
I mean, just as Zell. Now you can track your
mental health and find out how mentally ill you are.
Because you have so many apps. There's an app for
that New York you can scan the subway. An app
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tells you which lines are out of service. That's an
easy one, all of them. You've got the Uber apps,
lift curb man. How about the apps for your kids?
Where are they in terms of school? Where are they period?
In terms of you know, locator apps. I have one
of those on How about apps for different classes? Class Dojo,
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Bright Wheel? I mean I can't even stop Google Docs,
Google sheet, slides, mail, you know, man, I'm gonna go
through them because I would spend I don't know how
many minutes, how many segments would I go on these apps?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So let me ask around.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Survey says, all right, Neil, you have dozens and dozens
of apps. How many do you actually pages? Sixteen pages?
How many do you actually use sixteen pages? How many
are there per page?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Four eight questions?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It's like twenty five twenty four apps per page?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And you have sixteen pages. How many do you actually use?
I use quite a few of them, but that's very good,
thank you. Quite a few, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Use twenty four of them, Let's say twenty four out
of what two hundred more? Okay, Cono, how many apps
do you use?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Out? Are you fifty two? I use all fifty two?
Do you really? I mean, I delete them? And you
know you clearly have no life?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay, Amy, You've got page after page? How many apps
do you actually use?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I probably use a couple dozen of them. There's some
on there that like, I put them on there ten
years ago and they're still there, and I've never I
don't go back to them at all.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah. So, I even though I think I'm overwhelmed, I'm
not even.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Close to the apps that you use.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And there is no place now, no store, no service
that doesn't have an app. And are we overwhelmed by apps?
To the point, Well, it's like cable TV or you
have the different platforms. I don't even know how many
of these I have. I'm looking at him and I'm overwhelmed.
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I know I pay for them a lot. I look
at the bill every month and it's several hundred dollars
a month. I'm going I never even watched that. And
apps are free and it's out of control. So are
we reached the point where there's.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So many apps and you only a few.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean, I'm looking at my apps and I've got,
you know, one page. I basically have two pages of apps,
which means I probably am in the same category as Kno.
I may be I may have fifty apps, of which
I probably use twenty. So what am I doing with
thirty apps?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
My BMW app that's not working. By the way, what
is a meet app? Meet me et not meat?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Is it a dating app?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I don't know. I really don't know. Let me see.
Welcome to Google Meet.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You can make video calls to friends and family, creating
a room.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And by the way, I do use teams because we
use teams at the station when you talk to clients
or we have meetings, et cetera. Well, high quality video
calls and any device continue as bill.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Thank you for telling me that, uh why I was
uh yeah, that I would use yo, Yeah, exactly. You
know what is the best part of a cow?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Uh? You know? Where do you find cows?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Any up to date apps on there, like AOL or
any No, No.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Uh No, that's funny. Uh we still use uh you
know what my kids have. Uh AOL apps been around
for a long time. Anyway, I mean we're just app
to death. The point is is that it's so over
so overwhelming that have we just lost the ability to
even figure out what kind of apps? And here is
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as Amy said, Uh she uh had put on apps
ten years ago and have no idea what they even mean. Cono,
you keep up with your apps, right if you're not
using them, they're so you're you're smart about that. What's
the weirdest app you you have?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Cono weirdest? Yeah, I'm just curious. I don't know if
I have a World Star I guess, but that's just
like the depths of Humanity. Okay, that's good, Neil, weirdest app.
That's very funny. What's the weirdest app you have? Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I have some you know, I don't know that I
call them weird, but I have like apps for movie
props and things like that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay, Okay, that's that's but that you use that stuff.
And Amy, what are your useless apps that you have?
And then we have to go.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I have one called Talking Tom. It's and I don't
even know if it if it even works, but you
basically talk to it and it repeats what you said's
your voice, and you come out and you'll break a cat.
It's really funny.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Talking Tom is uh. Yeah, I would have guessed that it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Has males use that particularly, and it's a never mind,
we're not going to go into that, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I can see that. Okay, we're done, guys. Feeney finished
coming up Foody.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
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is a footy Friday, October.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Fourth, going back to nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Anybody who was around is going to remember this, unless
you were born in nineteen eighty eight, then you're probably
not going.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
To remember this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
This was the Menendez brothers the trial thirty years back.
Eric and Lyle Menendez killed their parents. Boy, it was
a case that literally was covered all over the country.
It's just one of those big ones. So they were
accused of killing their parents.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
They did. They killed their parents.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That doesn't seem to be that big of an issue
except for them, of course. They got life imprisonment without
possibility to parole.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They got l lot for that one.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
They argued that the elder Menendez Jose, their dad, abused them, sexually,
abused them, and threatened them and threatened to kill them
if they said anything about the abuse. And the first trial,
by the way, that was sort of brought up and
the jury was hung, so that means a second trial.
(01:12):
Most of that evidence was not brought up in the
second trial. The abuse argument was not really brought up
and they were then convicted and were sentenced to life imprisonment. Well,
there is a Peacock documentary that is out there and
it's called Menendez plus Menudo Boys Betrayed. And what it
(01:35):
does is in terms of pushing the scenario that why Neil,
it's Menendez plus Menudo?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
No, what does Minudo have to do with it?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, here we go, because the pop band Minudo ah
was created by a guy who is now being accused
of bringing one of the young Minudo boys to Jose
Menendez's home.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The kid was raped on.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Now you get it. Yeah, there you go, Menanda.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's not the name of a dish.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know. There's normal Manudo and then there's Menendez Manunda Menudo.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
See, that's why he does Foody Friday. This is why
we love Neil so much. In any case, there's that
Peacock docu series and it raises all kinds of allegations
that Jose Menendez dad assaulted a former member of the
nineteen eighties pop band Menudo, and that the head of
the Menudos, the guy who created him, brings this kid
(02:42):
to Jose Menendez who then rapes and drugs this kid
when he was thirteen or fourteen years old, and this
guy Roy Rosello said that's exactly what happened, and suggested
the whole thing was to seal a deal between the
band and RCA Records, which Jose Menendez was a big hauncho.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He was an executive. So it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Now they're saying Gascon is saying, we really have to
take a look at this, and he's thinking about either
asking for a new trial or I mean they're talking about,
you know, letting him go. Of course that's crazy, but
because you know, gascoll And said, yeah, they did it.
But here's the defense is there are unique self defense
(03:27):
and real self defense is if your life is in
danger at that moment.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So that's not gonna fly. But this is a.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Mitigation, you know, if the jury is saying, wait a minute,
there really was a lot of abuse here. It's not
quite the same as blowing your parents' heads off for
just money.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And that's that was the original argument.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
The Kyle that the two Menendez boys, Eric and Lyle,
all they were interested was money. And by the way,
after the parents were killed, they bought themselves Rolex watches
and they were happy campers there wasn't a lot of
remorse or they weren't too unhappy that mom and dad
were killed. By the way, mom and dad were in
the house watching a movie when the boys came up
(04:06):
with a shotgun, blew Jose's head off, and then shot
the mother who was crawling along the floor, and killed her.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
With another shotgun blast. Nice case.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
In any case, here's what's happening, is this information came
up and there is a letter that's supposedly written by
I think it was Eric, eight months before the murder,
in which he talked about the abuse of his father
and that he was being threatened by his.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Dad, which I'm surprised they didn't come up in the trial.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But at this point it was just found. So the defense,
just the attorneys for the Menendez just happened to find it.
And there's some logic to it. You know, it was
held by I think grandmother or something until she died.
So in any case, here's George Gascon looking at this
and going, wow, we have new evidence. Now I happen
to be a fan of if you really have new evidence,
(05:06):
you open this thing up. You know a lot of
times when they have DNA that now basically proves someone
was not there. Do you know that prosecutors and judges
appella judges will say too late, too bad, you didn't
bring it up in time, But I have.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Proof that we didn't. He didn't do it, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You have time limits here, and so we'll see what
happens with the DA. Now, Gascone, Well, he's certainly not
going to say. I don't think he's going to say,
let's retry him, because everybody knows. I mean, there was
no issue. Their defense was not they didn't do it.
Their defense was that it was self defense. And so
(05:46):
is he going to ask for a re sentencing hearing
where a judge can lower it to let's say, life
imprisonment with the possibility of parole. Well, they've been in
jail for thirty years and they've been model prisoners, and
they've done everything that is being asked.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Of them, and they were helping other prisoners, you know,
the normal crap.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You know, we're helping other prisoners, you know, we you know,
we found God and we're sort of chaplains and helping
everybody with you know, their views on life and making
them making life easier for their prisoners with a religious bent.
That typically happens. So I wonder where George.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Gascone is going to go to this. Now would I
look at this?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I put myself in the shoes, and I'm not a
big gas goone fan, and.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I consider myself, yeah, you know pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I would say conservative when it comes to crime and sentencing,
et cetera.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But I would look at it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I would look at it because if it was legitimate
self defense, not self defense at that moment, but the
abuse and the rapes and the threats about the rapes
from Dad were part of it, I wouldn't give them
life in prison without possibility of parole. I would look
at parole thirty years later. So we'll see what the
(07:06):
DA does. We'll see what to see. Now, guess what
A book is about to be published by Milania Trump,
and we're talking next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's going to be published.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And it turns out that she is a passionate supporter
of a woman's right to control her own body. And
I mean not just she's pro choice. She is pro
choice with a capital P. And here's what she writes
in this memoir quote, it is imperative to guarantee that
(07:44):
women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children
based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or
pressure from the government.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
No room for compromise.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the
power to determine what she does with her own body.
A woman's fundamental right of individual liberty to her own
life grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if
she wishes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And there's more.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Restricting a woman's right to choose whether to terminate an
unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over
her own body. I have carried this belief with me
throughout my entire life.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now, this GE's kind of interesting, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And by the way, I think Donald Trump handled this
very well when he was asked about this.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean, there really is only one answer, and that
he gave it and.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Is the appropriate to answer. And that is real simple.
She has her own opinions. I'm never going to tell
her what to do, and if it's contrary to my opinion,
so be it. What is interesting about this book is
that this is a woman who does not like publicity.
She is one of the shyest in terms of not
(09:01):
being a public figure of any first lady that I
remember maybe Laura Bush.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, not even no.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, she's beyond Laura Bush in terms of privacy. And
for her to come out with this strength with her
pro choice philosophy, first of all, is in direct contradiction
of most of the Republican or a good part of
the Republican Party. And she is I don't know if
the ads are going to be in terms of those
(09:28):
states where reproductive rights are in question. She also there
was a post did on social media. I don't know
what platform it is, and she talks about this right out.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
She looks at the camera and says she is pro abortion. Now.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Her husband, Donald Trump, as we know, is sort of
taking both sides of it. First of all, he talks
about how proud he is of selecting those three Supreme
Court judges.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Is that killed Roe v. Wade? I told you I
was going to do it. I did it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And at the same time, because of the backlash and
there's tons of it from women about reproductive rights, he's
backed up and said, no, no, I wanted to leave
it to the states. I didn't want to kill abortion.
I just wanted to leave it to the states, which, yeah,
I don't know you know, that's kind of wish you
why she But that's a presidential candidate. You have to
pander to everybody, and he is. And it's not as
(10:25):
if Kamala Harris is not pandering either. But it's kind
of interesting that Milania Trump came out this strongly. Also,
she disagrees with Donald Trump on aspects of immigration policy.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
She is an immigrant.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
She comes from somewhere in Eastern Europe, Czechoslovakia or whatever
country she comes from, and became a US citizen.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And I saw she is clearly legal.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
She got a green card like everybody else got a
green card, become a US citizen. And so this is
an American speaking. But when you come from another country
and you adopt this country, and that's exactly what my
parents did, and that's exactly how I view it, you
think differently about immigration now, I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I don't think I think you got to be legal.
It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I'm not a big fan of those people that come
over here illegally, but that is you know, I've talked
about it. You know where I stand on this, and
we've had discussions about this and their story after story.
The interesting one is Malania Trump coming out this strongly,
and I mean really strongly in favor of reproductive rights.
And then one of the things I have always said,
(11:46):
with the exception for rape and incests, which most of
those that are pro that are pro life say, I
have to tell you, I don't get it. If life
is sacrisanct, why is it any sacrissainct if rape happens
or incest happens. Now, obviously the girl gets raped, and
(12:07):
sometimes down to fourteen years old or fifteen years old,
of course she's going to be devastated.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Of course her life.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Is going to take a turn, and she'd probably have
to deal with for the rest of her life. But
if life is sacrisanct, why is it less sacrissaninct under
these conditions. Now it's easy for me because I'm about
as pro abortion as you can get, so I don't
have a problem in arguing that a woman has the
absolute right to make a decision about her body. But
(12:35):
there is a very interesting dilemma going on amongst the
pro life crowd where the number of people who say,
oh yeah, no exception for rape or insect herschel Walker
got in a lot of trouble for that.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I got to tell you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
These are the people that I don't think I have
a dilemma, a moral dilemma at all, as I don't
have a moral dilemma in being pro choice. So it's
interesting dichotomy. What's going on. Oh and there's also a
story that she wanted a quarter of a million dollars
to do an interview on CNN, and that's coming out,
(13:10):
and I don't know how much of it that's true.
It's like she needs a quarter of a million dollars. Yeah,
I don't think so. Okay, Now, a story about overrides
and overrides of a decision that the governor makes in California.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Now, there's a supermajority.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
In this state, which means that if you have two
thirds of both houses, that can be any governor signing
any veto can be overridden with two thirds majority. I mean,
that's easy. If in this the legislature passes a bill
and in one case, I'm talking about a bill that
(13:48):
was seventy zero in the Assembly and only two in
thirty eight two.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
In the Senate.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You think that's enough to override the veto?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It wasn't. Veto was not overridden.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You know, in the last time a governor's a governor's
veto was overridden in California. Nineteen seventy nine was the
last time there was a veto overridden. Why would that happen?
You have a state legislature, Senate, and the Assembly that
passes almost unanimously a bill.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And the governor goes no vetoing it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You think they would override it. Nope, they don't. Now
is the governor that powerful? Yeah? Taking a page out
of Donald Trump's power in the Republican Party. No one
in California is willing to take a chance, No legislatoror
(14:47):
is willing to take a chance of overriding a governor's veto.
And you wonder why, Well, it's a modern day version.
And this is according to a politics professor University of California, Berkeley,
it's the modern day version of if you come after
the King, you'd better not miss. So Monday was the
(15:09):
deadline for the governor to act on twelve hundred bills
that the legislature sent to his desk, and he either
signs them or he vetoes them, and he vetoed about
almost sixteen percent of the total bills pass That's a
lot of veto and for different reasons.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
He vetoed it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And by the way, the governor also signs a veto
message when he vetos it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Usually there's a veto.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Messays explaining why and he did it for different reasons.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
According to those messages, thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Due to budget concerns too much money, twenty seven percent
due to disagreements over policy. Now we disagree on policy,
another twenty two because they were unnecessary or stepped on
the toes of other state agencies or local governments.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
There was a content flicked.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's what happened to me when I was involved in
writing a surrogacy bill in the mid eighties, and I
got both And this was a lot of politics. There
were a lot of It's not me. I just happened
to be involved in writing the bill. There were a
lot of reproductive people involved, and there were a lot
of labs IVF labs that were part of it. And
(16:22):
we got it passed and the governor vetoed it, and
his reason was, no, there really isn't an issue here.
Faing broke, don't fix it. No one's ever been nailed
on this issue. And it had to do with the
upholding of a surrogacy conentre, He goes, you know what,
it's no big deal, I'm vetoing it. It took the
(16:43):
California's Supreme Court to establish the law. But the point
is that was part of the veto message, and in
that case it was pretty close that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It would never have been overridden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But can you imagine a bill that literally you're talking
one hundred percent of the Assembly, ninety five percent of
the Senate, and they won't override it. There is there
isn't even a motion to override. Does the governor have
(17:14):
that much power where if the legislature overrides his veto?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Apparently yes.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We look at the power of Donald Trump over the
Republican Party, which is enormous. You don't go if you're
a Republican, you don't go against former President Trump. Looks
like the same thing is happening in California.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
A legislator does not go against what the governor wants. Now,
the governor says, there are three governor's office, there are
three branches of government, and if the legislature disagrees with
what the executive branch read the governor does, well that's
their prerogative.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It turns out there really isn't a prerogative.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Turns out you don't take a chance because it looks
like a governor has that much power and can simply.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Say that guy is out.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Even to the point where Scott Wiener, probably i would say,
the most liberal senator out there, introduced a bill to
reduce drug costs and Newsom overrode that, or Newsom vetoed it.
Why because there it wasn't powerful enough. Therefore, I'm going
(18:33):
to veto this. We need more information. Really, you ever
heard of something called first steps? So Wiener said, this
is a bad veto. I disagree. The citizens of California
must be protected against big pharma and these ridiculous drug costs.
(18:54):
And so he said, outright, bad, bad boy. You shouldn't
have vetoed it. Does he move for an override? No,
no he doesn't. He didn't have the balls to do
that or the hashim to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
All right, So much for that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
All right, I'm looking at my phone and I've got
how many, yeah, maybe two dozen apps on my phone,
maybe a little more, and that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
How many apps do you have on your phone? Neil, Oh,
don't even get me started. Amy. How many apps?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Like ten? Pages of them?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Ten pages? All right? And how many apps? Same thing?
About about six pages? And cono, can you afford a phone? Yes? Okay?
And how many how many apps do you have? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Good for you countered him? Okay, so I have the fewest.
Because I have the fewest. There's a few that I
don't even know I had.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And I have no idea. I have a fitness app.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh god, you think I look at that one. No,
so I've got a few shortcuts. I don't even know
what that app is. Nord passed, no idea what that?
What that is?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The rest of them? Are you know? Pretty good? Monarch?
What the hell is monarch?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, it is, thank you. I have no idea what
that app is.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The point is we are apped to death, to the
point where how many apps are there? The last time
I think that, I remember Apple came out with account
of apps, it was four hundred thousand. Now i'm and
that was years ago. Now I'm assuming it's in the millions.
And think of how pervasive. Okay, of course Apple McDonald's
(20:54):
has one, but Duncan has one, Every chain restaurant has one.
Every food delivery service Uber eats, all of them. Home
depot loads, Target, Ikia, Walmart, Whole Foods.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
How about paying.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
For products and services on your app? Venmo, cash app, PayPal,
I mean, just as Zell. Now you can track your
mental health and find out how mentally ill you are.
Because you have so many apps. There's an app for
that New York you can scan the subway. An app
(21:33):
tells you which lines are out of service. That's an
easy one, all of them. You've got the Uber apps,
lift curb man. How about the apps for your kids?
Where are they in terms of school? Where are they period?
In terms of you know, locator apps. I have one
of those on How about apps for different classes? Class Dojo,
(21:58):
Bright Wheel? I mean I can't even stop Google Docs,
Google sheet, slides, mail, you know, man, I'm gonna go
through them because I would spend I don't know how
many minutes, how many segments would I go on these apps?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So let me ask around.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Survey says, all right, Neil, you have dozens and dozens
of apps. How many do you actually pages? Sixteen pages?
How many do you actually use sixteen pages? How many
are there per page?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Four eight questions?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It's like twenty five twenty four apps per page?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And you have sixteen pages. How many do you actually use?
I use quite a few of them, but that's very good,
thank you. Quite a few, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Use twenty four of them, Let's say twenty four out
of what two hundred more? Okay, Cono, how many apps
do you use?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Out? Are you fifty two? I use all fifty two?
Do you really? I mean, I delete them? And you
know you clearly have no life?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay, Amy, You've got page after page? How many apps
do you actually use?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I probably use a couple dozen of them. There's some
on there that like, I put them on there ten
years ago and they're still there, and I've never I
don't go back to them at all.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah. So, I even though I think I'm overwhelmed, I'm
not even.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Close to the apps that you use.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And there is no place now, no store, no service
that doesn't have an app. And are we overwhelmed by apps?
To the point, Well, it's like cable TV or you
have the different platforms. I don't even know how many
of these I have. I'm looking at him and I'm overwhelmed.
(23:40):
I know I pay for them a lot. I look
at the bill every month and it's several hundred dollars
a month. I'm going I never even watched that. And
apps are free and it's out of control. So are
we reached the point where there's.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So many apps and you only a few.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean, I'm looking at my apps and I've got,
you know, one page. I basically have two pages of apps,
which means I probably am in the same category as Kno.
I may be I may have fifty apps, of which
I probably use twenty. So what am I doing with
thirty apps?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
My BMW app that's not working. By the way, what
is a meet app? Meet me et not meat?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Is it a dating app?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I don't know. I really don't know. Let me see.
Welcome to Google Meet.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You can make video calls to friends and family, creating
a room.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And by the way, I do use teams because we
use teams at the station when you talk to clients
or we have meetings, et cetera. Well, high quality video
calls and any device continue as bill.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Thank you for telling me that, uh why I was
uh yeah, that I would use yo, Yeah, exactly. You
know what is the best part of a cow?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Uh? You know? Where do you find cows?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Any up to date apps on there, like AOL or
any No, No.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Uh No, that's funny. Uh we still use uh you
know what my kids have. Uh AOL apps been around
for a long time. Anyway, I mean we're just app
to death. The point is is that it's so over
so overwhelming that have we just lost the ability to
even figure out what kind of apps? And here is
(25:43):
as Amy said, Uh she uh had put on apps
ten years ago and have no idea what they even mean. Cono,
you keep up with your apps, right if you're not
using them, they're so you're you're smart about that. What's
the weirdest app you you have?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Cono weirdest? Yeah, I'm just curious. I don't know if
I have a World Star I guess, but that's just
like the depths of Humanity. Okay, that's good, Neil, weirdest app.
That's very funny. What's the weirdest app you have? Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I have some you know, I don't know that I
call them weird, but I have like apps for movie
props and things like that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay, Okay, that's that's but that you use that stuff.
And Amy, what are your useless apps that you have?
And then we have to go.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I have one called Talking Tom. It's and I don't
even know if it if it even works, but you
basically talk to it and it repeats what you said's
your voice, and you come out and you'll break a cat.
It's really funny.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Talking Tom is uh. Yeah, I would have guessed that it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Has males use that particularly, and it's a never mind,
we're not going to go into that, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I can see that. Okay, we're done, guys. Feeney finished
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Speaker 2 (26:58):
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