October 9, 2024 • 27 mins
Wayne Resnick fills in this week for Bill who is out on vacation.Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Wayne about 6 potential herbal suppliments linked to liver risks, how vitamin D helps, cheek swabs predicting risks of death, and time restricted eating. Wayne is joined by attorney Eleazer Kim from My Lemon Law Group. The show closes with roadkill cookoffs... YUM!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handled on Demand from KFI AM
six forty. It is a Bill Handles show.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Wayne Wesnik sitting in until nine, and it is that
time of the week when we get into some medical
news with doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for Dignity
Health Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach. Welcome back,
Congratulations on the new gig, the.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Relatively new gig.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I haven't been able to talk to you since you
got this new groovy gig in Long Beach, But congratulations.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Thanks Wayne.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey, let's get into this because frankly, it's pissing me off.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Okay, herbs.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Herbs have been used for thousands of years, right, I
mean you go back to ancient times that people are
taking herbs, and you have herbal supplements now, and so
this should be like long tested and understood and used forever.
And then some researchers at the University of miss Again
came out with a study that is saying that a
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lot of these things we're taking because we were told
they're going to help your health are possibly damaging one
of the most important parts of our bodies.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What is going on?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yes, it's true that there are some herbs that can
damage your liver, and that's what they looked at in
this study. You know, I'm generally a fan of herbs.
There's a lot of herbal supplements that have health benefits
when used appropriately in moderation. But people really need to
be aware of this that you can't just because they're
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not harmless in that you take you know, high high
doses and expect that you're not going to have some complications.
Green tea extracts a perfect example. It does have some
documented health benefits as far as improving blood sugar. It's
an antioxidant, so it can improve cardiac health, but it
isn't it's already a concentrate. It's an extract, so anything
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that could cause harm to your liver can get even
more highly concentrated in that, and so the last thing
you want to do is take extra of it. And
there are cases where people's livers are harmed from something
as innocuous as green tea extract. You know, it can
interfere with meds as well, So whenever you're taking a supplement,
if you have underlying health conditions or you're on other medications,
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this is something you definitely want to discuss with your doctor,
because you could be undermining the whole thing you're taking.
For example, you're taking on blood thinner like kumidant, and
you take green tea extract that has vitamin K and
the green tea extract which which negates cumidant, it's as
if you're not taking it. And coumitant's usually only given
for high risk conditions where you could die if you
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get a blood clot, and now you're removing all that benefit.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh damn it, Jim, I may quote star trek okay.
So here's the thing. I'm looking at a list of
the supplements that they study. Now, I've never even heard
of black cohosh, so I don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I don't take a gart go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That's mostly for women with hot flashes. That's it actually
has been shown to reduce the symptoms of menopause.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Icy and kill their livers. I don't take red yeast rice.
I don't take green tea extract, But I want.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
To talk about red rice. Yeast is actually interesting because
it's similar to the statins that we use for lowering cholesterol.
So here's one where maybe it shouldn't have as bad
a rap as it does, because it's the same if
you took a statin for cholesterol. It has liver toxicity
associated with it, and it's something that needs to be
monitored and cared for. But it's not that you shouldn't
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take red rice yeast. It's that you've got to be
aware of this so that those type of things are
being monitored, just as if you were on a statin
for cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I see, I want to focus on this one because man,
this one is everywhere. Turmeric or curcumin, I guess the
active ingredient or the of turmeric that we supposedly want.
And you said something about you know, a lot of
the danger has to do with taking concentrated doses.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right now you probably know this.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But if you read certain websites, especially any websites that
are are affront I don't mean a front in a
bad way, but like the main purpose of the website
is to they sell supplements, but they'll have articles and
talk about research and one of the things they always say,
and they say it about curcuman all the time. Curcuman
is great, and here's what it does. It what it
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reduces inflammation, It does good things. And then they always say,
they always say, but you'd have to eat three pounds
of turmeric to get enough curcumin to get the good effect.
And that's why we have this special curcumin that's made
in a lab or something and it's concentrated and you
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just take a pill and you get the benefits. So
the thing that the supplement companies are touting, which is
precisely how concentrated their products are, is the thing you're
saying makes them dangerous or potentially dangerous.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Right right, And that's why. But people go a little crazy.
So the studies have been done looking like, for example,
for tumeric, we're talking about five hundred milligrams to two
grams of turmeric powder is kind of a normal dose
for curcumin. It's it's a little bit lower, between five
hundred and one point five grams. So somewhere in there
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that seems to be safe. It's generally accepted as safe
for most people. But you know, there are people who
will take five times that amount, ten times that amount,
and we don't necessarily know, you know, where the higher
limit is. And so there are strategies. For example, fourcumin
black pepper enhances. It has preparing in it that enhances
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the absorption by two thousand percent for that supplement. So
when you take one that's in either with a little
bit of black pepper or has black pepper in the mixture,
you don't have to take as much. But again it's
one of those things that don't go crazy. You know,
if some is good, more is not necessarily better. Just
take the recommended doses, all.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Right now, doctor Jim.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Now there's a big study saying that vitamin D is
the bee's knees.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I mean we've known for a while vitamin D is
good for you. You know, it helps with all types
of things like your immune system. It can help bone
health because you need vitamin D for calcium to be absorbed.
It's part of the absorption process. So again, you know,
kind of bouncing off the last segment. Too much is
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not good either, so don't go crazy. It can actually
cause osteoporosis if you take too much. The exact opposite
cardiac problems if you take too much. So just take
the recommended amount. But the study shows that, Okay, number one,
it has to be customized to the to the individual,
to the patient. Because people that are normal weight, normal health,
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and have a normal vitamin D level when we test
their level in their blood, don't get too much benefit
from it. But people who are obese, have high blood pressure,
have diabetes, and may have a low vitamin D level,
They're going to of course get the most benefit when
you bring that back up to normal.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So this was a meta study, which I assume means
they looked at a bunch of different studies and kind
of schmushed them all together. And here's what's amazing to me.
So they found that an average supplemental dose of three
and twenty I use of vitamin Dre's here's the thing.
It was associated with lower blood pressure, lower total cholesterol,
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lower A one the C, as well as fasting insulin
and glucose. Doctor Jim, we're talking high blood pressure, high cholesterol,
and diabetes basically, and this one thing helps with all
three of those major killers of people.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Right right, it does. That's what it shows. But again
you got to look at it because in the study,
it showed that in people who had a BMI greater
than thirty, the people with lower circulating levels of vitamin D.
So it's not like if you have high blood pressure,
high cholesterol, diet and diabetes. You just take this medicine
and it fixes it.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
All.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It is that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
If what's contributing to that is the fact that you
are older, higher BMI, and have low vitamin D levels,
well then you should take the supplement. So I mean,
after I turned fifty, I started taking vitamin D be
only because it's known that people over fifty tend to
their vitamin D level starts to go down. Mine was
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normal when I tested it. But and so am I
going to get a lot of benefit?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But because I take it within kind of the normal
and acceptable ranges, I should probably not cause myself any harm.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So this is not so much that it's like a
medicine that treats a condition. This is saying if you're
deficient in it and you have all of these health problems,
getting your levels up to something normal could help enormously.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Absolutely so. Not only that, but there may be some
benefit even if you're say within the normal range, but
you have those other risk factors. So if you're older,
if you have higher weight, if you have any of
those medical conditions, there may be some benefit to it
just by taking it as well. So I mean, when
you consider the cost, the side effects. It's really to me,
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it's one of the supplements. I don't take a lot
of supplements, but it's one of the supplements I think
that that is worth taking if you are you know,
if you're concerned about getting enough vitamin D.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
All right, now, let's finish up today's discussion with this,
because this is something that happens almost everybody you go.
Usually it's the doctor's office, sometimes it's another place, and
they take your blood pressure. And now there's this study
that was just published in the Journal of American Medicalization,
Internal Medicine Journal that said, if they're not taking your
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blood pressure exactly right, it's gonna be wrong. And usually
the wrong is gonna say it's higher than it is.
What's the critical component here of taking blood pressure? That's
so important so that we know next time somebody comes
at me with the cuff, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
To know what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, I know, you have to advocate for yourself on
these type of things. The arm position is super important.
You really should, I mean, the proper way to take
a blood pressure sitting upright in a chair, feet resting
on the ground, not legs crossed, and then back support it,
so not on a stool or sitting up on the
exam table, and then your arm should be out in
front of you kind of like on a countertop at
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about heart level. That's the ideal way to take your
blood pressure.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
My concern though, is that if your blood pressure goes
up with you know, just by changing your arm position
and it's super high, then you probably still need treatment.
Right if your blood pressure is two hundred over one hundred,
and again, that's hypertension, same thing as high blood pressure, right,
those are those are the same words. And we want
it one twenty or over eighty or below and really
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if you can get it below one ten over seventy,
that's ideal, but above one forty over ninety, we start
looking at Wow. You know, those people definitely need treatment.
Other people with risk factors might even want treatment earlier.
So if you're coming in at two hundred over one hundred,
it's not your arm position that's causing the problem. But
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if you're just like five to five to eight points
between being treated and being treated, then yeah, maybe this
would make a difference.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
See.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I guess to me, the thing about this study isn't
necessarily how important the arm position is and how it
can vary, Although that's important. What to me, what I
got out of it is that even in places like
doctor's offices, sometimes they are not taking the blood pressure
quote correctly.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Correctly, yeah, medisone is this weird mix, right of people
who you know, have a high school degree and maybe
took a course on how to do a front office
or back office, and so they're trained to do it
in a very quick, you know, simple way. And then
there's people who have you know, twenty years of education,
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all in the same office. So you would hope that
all this information gets translated. But the assumption that everyone
knows the right way to take a blood pressure isn't correct.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, all right, doctor Jim. Always wonderful to speak with you,
of course anytime. Once again, congratulations on the new Giga.
We'll talk to you again next week.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Take care, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I want to get right to our guest. Governor Knewsom
recently signed a law that changes California's lemon law and
what your rights are when you get a lemon of
a car and what the car companies have to do.
But as he signed it, he said, I'm not in
love with this law. I'd like to see them change
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it again. And if some car companies think it's a
good law and other car companies think it sucks. Some
consumer groups think it's a good law, but others think
it's terrible. So in order to unravel that and explain
right now kind of the state of your rights, I
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wanted to have on somebody good, and we got somebody
really good. Eliezer Kim Esquire, founder managing partner of my
Lemon Lawyer Group. You know them as muchlemonlaw Lawyer dot com.
You hear Bill Handle talking about them all the time.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Good morning, Wayne, Thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All right, let's get right into this. This new law
I want to focus I think on two things. One
is it sets If I understand it, this law sets
strict deadlines for the car companies to respond to complaints
and then do something about it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
If you send them a letter and say.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I, duff, declare my car a Lemon, they have thirty
days to respond, and they have another thirty days to
do something. Give you a new car, give you a rebate,
or whatever it is. Now, it seems like that would
be good for consumers. Because previously they could drag the
whole thing out. But do you agree it's good for
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consumers or is there a caveat here?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I think there's a major caveat here. No, I don't
think it's a good idea. If it's like a SoundBite
like that, then it sounds like it's helping consumers, but
in fact it's not. And if in fact there is
any consumer group out there that believes this change is
good for consumers, I think you definitely need to get
them on your show because I like to hear what
they have to say. As far as I know, no
one thinks this is a good idea or a good
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law that will eventually help consumers. Next year, I want
to start off by helping your listen understand the whole
purpose of lenin in law. Right. This is a lot
that was passing nineteen seventy by then Governor Ronald Reagan,
and throughout the years we've actually made some really good improvements.
This is not one of those. For example, we introduced
opening the law to military personnel so they can how
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even if they're stationed somewhere else else out of state,
they can still file in California. We then open up
to small business owners. So some people use their business
vehicles for their own personal vehicles too, and we said,
that's fine, you can actually file for Lemon law in
that case. Under this new law, it takes away the
very core essence of California Lemon law, which is the
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affirmative duty by car manufacturers to offer buybacks on their own. Okay,
so when we say that we now have to give
them notice and they have thirty days, then upon then
another thirty days, you've now taken away that affirmative duty
in the past and existing current Lemon law. The manufacturers
have to monitor on their own and then if they see,
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oh well it looks like this customer's come in three
times already for the same problem, then we should offer
buyback on our own. That's what the law says. Now
does that actually happen in reality? No, And that's why
you've seen an increase in Lemon law lawsuits throughout the years,
which manufacturers are complaining about. But now this new law,
consumers have to send in a mailed letter and not
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many people are going to know this too. Once it
starts on January first, there's going to be a lot
of confusion because consumers now have to send in a
written letter to a specific peel box mail i'm asum
it's gonna be a PO box with the big number,
an actual summary of their repair history, and then also
an actual demand, a demand of what they want. And
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that's sometimes require some legal leads. Usually this is stuff
that's handled by attorneys. But now the consumers have to
do this on their own. And if they fail to
do this, guess what manufacturers can actually ignore what is
going on in in in in these uh in these vehicles.
So it actually creates an incentive for card manufacturers to
take us a sit back and see which consumers are
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actually sending in letters and which are not. And uh
not only that, if they do receive a letter, there's
a new requirement that there has to be some kind
of a mediation right before a lossuit can be fouled.
Now again SoundBite wise, Well, if you're having mediations before
filing losses, isn't that it for everyone? The problem is
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know in leminal lawsuits. These are actual civil litigation lawsuits
against major car manufacturers, which requires actual discovery or what
did they know? When did they know about this defect?
How many people have complained about this, What repairs and
fixes have they come up with? These are actual discovery
work that's done by Lemon Law attorneys in civil lawsuits.
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When you go in mediation, you're stripping all of those
rights out because mediators don't have the same power that
judges do. There's no resource and that allows us to
go after and kind of discovery and mediations. So it
becomes a very stream streamline, if you want to say,
but also very weakened protection for especially for people who
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have gone through a lot of egregious repair visits, repair histories,
and at the end of the day, most people think
that the dealership is the same as the manufacturer, right,
so when they go into the dealership and they complain,
they think they're actually talking to the manufacturer or representative
of the manufacturer. Dealerships are local businesses who have licenses
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to service, repair, and sell these vehicles. So they think
that they've done enough when they dealt with dealerships and
gone in three, four or five times for the same problem,
and some people then resort to call it the one
a hundred number. But with this new requirement of this
written notice, manufacturers can take a feedback and see who
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actually sends and mail the letters, and who don't. That's
a major problem for wow.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I knew, I knew that you would be able to
explain like cleanly and clearly how a limit, a time
limit for the car companies actually turns out to be
bad because it comes with the requirement that now the
burden is put on the car owner instead of on
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the car company.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I didn't imagine it would be that clear and that compelling.
So I want to thank you very much for coming
on today. And just so people know, this is not
an infomercial or a paid thing. I was going to
talk about this law no matter what, and I said,
let's get somebody, and that's why you're here. And we
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really we appreciate it very much. When they do something
else with it, we'll try to have you back on
as well. I appreciate your time, sir, Thank.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You very much. You know, I have a lot more
to say about this, so if your listeners want to
find this educational, if they find that, they want to
listen to more, because there are other important changes that
are being made, like the deadline and foul upsits civil
penalty components and things like that. It's just it's really
a bad law overall. There's a reason why car manufacturers
are against it, and only the major card companies like
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GMS bord are happy about this because they have the
most limits out of all the manufacturers. And every consumer
writes act of this that I know is not happy
about the eiders. So if your listeners want to hear
more some of the time, I'm more than happy to
come on and talk about even more.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
All right, excellent, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Laser Kim, Founder, managing partner, my Lemon Lawyer Group, my
lemonlaw Lawyer dot com. A big event just wrapped up
in West Virginia in Marlinton, West Virginia, which is in
the middle of nowhere, and there's only a thousand people there,
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but every year tens of thousands of people show up
for an annual cookoff. It is unlike any cookoff you
may be thinking of. And I wanted Neil to be
a part of this segment because Neil is, of course Fork.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know Neil that my friends and I we just
call you Fork.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I like it because of your show, The Fork Report.
You're like the foodie guy. Yeah, intimate and personal. This
is a road kill cookoff and it is been going
on for thirty three years. It started in nineteen ninety
one and it was inspired by a book that some
guy wrote. Have you ever seen this book? It's called
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Roadkill Cooking by a guy named Jeff Eberbaugh.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I have.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I've talked about it on the show before as well. Oh,
so you know that book.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
There's a couple of them, actually, a couple of roadkill cookbooks.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So this is good that you know the book, because
I have not seen the book.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And I want to ask you a question, yes, sir,
because in the book, is he talking about using actual roadkill?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well, yes and no, Yes they are.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
There are people and there are some places where it's
completely legal to get roadkill. There are rules for roadkill
of course that they're fresh and they're still a tempt
on the animal and.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Things like that.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
But there so there are ways to cook roadkill and
there are people that do, however, at these events, and
there's more than one as well. At these events there
it's not roadkill, it's animals that would fall into that bores, gators,
ar medillas, snakes, frogs, things like that. So when you
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go to these events, they're not actually road killed. They
are animals that are likely to be roadkilled, turtles, you'll
find a lot of chilis and stews.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
To be honest with you, oh, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, it probably helps to mask you know, what's going on.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's why I wanted to know if the book was
talking about actual, honest to God and animals been hit
and you pick it up and you cook it, which
is allowed in parts of the country. But as you said,
Festival like the others, it's not actual roadkill.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's just the.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Kind of animals that you might see as roadkill. And
in fact, the rules are here. It has to be
hunted or farmed the animal that you're using. There's also
a requirement that whatever you're making has to be at
least twenty five percent meat. So you can't do you
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can't make like a bean chili and put a tiny
little bit of venison in it.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Well, no, and they tend it to be you know,
they want it to shine and they want the ingredient
to be the star. But in regards to the book,
and I may be getting a couple of them confused,
because like I said, there's more than one. There absolutely
is a section to break down how to properly get roadkill,
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the signs, and really it talks about it's not very appetite,
talks about bloating, talks about secretions, talks about all these
things that you look for when you see roadkill to
know if it's okay to eat or not. And so, yeah,
they're anticipating. It kind of falls around that self sustaining survivalist,
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off the grid kind of stuff, and so in that sense, yes,
it's absolutely talking about roadkill. And then there's some you know,
tongue in cheek, but they're legitimate recipes for squirrel or
raccoon or you know, things that you would find as roadkill.
I would imagine, you know, throughout our history the reason
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why we don't eat some of these things because you're
better off to feel feed the family or the community
with larger animals.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But well, although deers, deers, deers are pretty are pretty big.
And in this year there was.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
A that's roadkill, it is, but we eat venison normally,
you eat buffalo venison. Some of these things are bore
are sort of normal.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What about bear?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There was a fried bear dish and the team that
was cooking it said, you know, you can get about
fifty pounds of meat off of a black bear.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, it's them not wanting to give it to you,
is the problem? Fighting the bear for that fifty pounds
of meat is going up against nine hundred pounds of
I don't want you to have it, all.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right, Neil, Thank you, buddy. I'll see you tomorrow. It's
too late.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's too late for this year. But next year we're
going people. Yeah, well I go to Martin. There it
is and this is true. It is their version of
Coachella or the super Bowl. It's a big deal. You're
a big deal.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You're a big deal.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Gary and Shannon are a big deal and they are
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Wayne Wesnik sitting in until nine, and it is that
time of the week when we get into some medical
news with doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for Dignity
Health Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach. Welcome back,
Congratulations on the new gig, the.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Relatively new gig.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I haven't been able to talk to you since you
got this new groovy gig in Long Beach, But congratulations.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Thanks Wayne.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey, let's get into this because frankly, it's pissing me off.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Okay, herbs.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Herbs have been used for thousands of years, right, I
mean you go back to ancient times that people are
taking herbs, and you have herbal supplements now, and so
this should be like long tested and understood and used forever.
And then some researchers at the University of miss Again
came out with a study that is saying that a
(01:03):
lot of these things we're taking because we were told
they're going to help your health are possibly damaging one
of the most important parts of our bodies.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What is going on?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yes, it's true that there are some herbs that can
damage your liver, and that's what they looked at in
this study. You know, I'm generally a fan of herbs.
There's a lot of herbal supplements that have health benefits
when used appropriately in moderation. But people really need to
be aware of this that you can't just because they're
(01:38):
not harmless in that you take you know, high high
doses and expect that you're not going to have some complications.
Green tea extracts a perfect example. It does have some
documented health benefits as far as improving blood sugar. It's
an antioxidant, so it can improve cardiac health, but it
isn't it's already a concentrate. It's an extract, so anything
(02:01):
that could cause harm to your liver can get even
more highly concentrated in that, and so the last thing
you want to do is take extra of it. And
there are cases where people's livers are harmed from something
as innocuous as green tea extract. You know, it can
interfere with meds as well, So whenever you're taking a supplement,
if you have underlying health conditions or you're on other medications,
(02:22):
this is something you definitely want to discuss with your doctor,
because you could be undermining the whole thing you're taking.
For example, you're taking on blood thinner like kumidant, and
you take green tea extract that has vitamin K and
the green tea extract which which negates cumidant, it's as
if you're not taking it. And coumitant's usually only given
for high risk conditions where you could die if you
(02:42):
get a blood clot, and now you're removing all that benefit.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh damn it, Jim, I may quote star trek okay.
So here's the thing. I'm looking at a list of
the supplements that they study. Now, I've never even heard
of black cohosh, so I don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I don't take a gart go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That's mostly for women with hot flashes. That's it actually
has been shown to reduce the symptoms of menopause.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Icy and kill their livers. I don't take red yeast rice.
I don't take green tea extract, But I want.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
To talk about red rice. Yeast is actually interesting because
it's similar to the statins that we use for lowering cholesterol.
So here's one where maybe it shouldn't have as bad
a rap as it does, because it's the same if
you took a statin for cholesterol. It has liver toxicity
associated with it, and it's something that needs to be
monitored and cared for. But it's not that you shouldn't
(03:42):
take red rice yeast. It's that you've got to be
aware of this so that those type of things are
being monitored, just as if you were on a statin
for cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I see, I want to focus on this one because man,
this one is everywhere. Turmeric or curcumin, I guess the
active ingredient or the of turmeric that we supposedly want.
And you said something about you know, a lot of
the danger has to do with taking concentrated doses.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right now you probably know this.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But if you read certain websites, especially any websites that
are are affront I don't mean a front in a
bad way, but like the main purpose of the website
is to they sell supplements, but they'll have articles and
talk about research and one of the things they always say,
and they say it about curcuman all the time. Curcuman
is great, and here's what it does. It what it
(04:34):
reduces inflammation, It does good things. And then they always say,
they always say, but you'd have to eat three pounds
of turmeric to get enough curcumin to get the good effect.
And that's why we have this special curcumin that's made
in a lab or something and it's concentrated and you
(04:56):
just take a pill and you get the benefits. So
the thing that the supplement companies are touting, which is
precisely how concentrated their products are, is the thing you're
saying makes them dangerous or potentially dangerous.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Right right, And that's why. But people go a little crazy.
So the studies have been done looking like, for example,
for tumeric, we're talking about five hundred milligrams to two
grams of turmeric powder is kind of a normal dose
for curcumin. It's it's a little bit lower, between five
hundred and one point five grams. So somewhere in there
(05:35):
that seems to be safe. It's generally accepted as safe
for most people. But you know, there are people who
will take five times that amount, ten times that amount,
and we don't necessarily know, you know, where the higher
limit is. And so there are strategies. For example, fourcumin
black pepper enhances. It has preparing in it that enhances
(05:59):
the absorption by two thousand percent for that supplement. So
when you take one that's in either with a little
bit of black pepper or has black pepper in the mixture,
you don't have to take as much. But again it's
one of those things that don't go crazy. You know,
if some is good, more is not necessarily better. Just
take the recommended doses, all.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Right now, doctor Jim.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Now there's a big study saying that vitamin D is
the bee's knees.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I mean we've known for a while vitamin D is
good for you. You know, it helps with all types
of things like your immune system. It can help bone
health because you need vitamin D for calcium to be absorbed.
It's part of the absorption process. So again, you know,
kind of bouncing off the last segment. Too much is
(06:52):
not good either, so don't go crazy. It can actually
cause osteoporosis if you take too much. The exact opposite
cardiac problems if you take too much. So just take
the recommended amount. But the study shows that, Okay, number one,
it has to be customized to the to the individual,
to the patient. Because people that are normal weight, normal health,
(07:13):
and have a normal vitamin D level when we test
their level in their blood, don't get too much benefit
from it. But people who are obese, have high blood pressure,
have diabetes, and may have a low vitamin D level,
They're going to of course get the most benefit when
you bring that back up to normal.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So this was a meta study, which I assume means
they looked at a bunch of different studies and kind
of schmushed them all together. And here's what's amazing to me.
So they found that an average supplemental dose of three
and twenty I use of vitamin Dre's here's the thing.
It was associated with lower blood pressure, lower total cholesterol,
(07:58):
lower A one the C, as well as fasting insulin
and glucose. Doctor Jim, we're talking high blood pressure, high cholesterol,
and diabetes basically, and this one thing helps with all
three of those major killers of people.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Right right, it does. That's what it shows. But again
you got to look at it because in the study,
it showed that in people who had a BMI greater
than thirty, the people with lower circulating levels of vitamin D.
So it's not like if you have high blood pressure,
high cholesterol, diet and diabetes. You just take this medicine
and it fixes it.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
All.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It is that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
If what's contributing to that is the fact that you
are older, higher BMI, and have low vitamin D levels,
well then you should take the supplement. So I mean,
after I turned fifty, I started taking vitamin D be
only because it's known that people over fifty tend to
their vitamin D level starts to go down. Mine was
(09:02):
normal when I tested it. But and so am I
going to get a lot of benefit?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But because I take it within kind of the normal
and acceptable ranges, I should probably not cause myself any harm.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So this is not so much that it's like a
medicine that treats a condition. This is saying if you're
deficient in it and you have all of these health problems,
getting your levels up to something normal could help enormously.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Absolutely so. Not only that, but there may be some
benefit even if you're say within the normal range, but
you have those other risk factors. So if you're older,
if you have higher weight, if you have any of
those medical conditions, there may be some benefit to it
just by taking it as well. So I mean, when
you consider the cost, the side effects. It's really to me,
(09:52):
it's one of the supplements. I don't take a lot
of supplements, but it's one of the supplements I think
that that is worth taking if you are you know,
if you're concerned about getting enough vitamin D.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
All right, now, let's finish up today's discussion with this,
because this is something that happens almost everybody you go.
Usually it's the doctor's office, sometimes it's another place, and
they take your blood pressure. And now there's this study
that was just published in the Journal of American Medicalization,
Internal Medicine Journal that said, if they're not taking your
(10:26):
blood pressure exactly right, it's gonna be wrong. And usually
the wrong is gonna say it's higher than it is.
What's the critical component here of taking blood pressure? That's
so important so that we know next time somebody comes
at me with the cuff, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
To know what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, I know, you have to advocate for yourself on
these type of things. The arm position is super important.
You really should, I mean, the proper way to take
a blood pressure sitting upright in a chair, feet resting
on the ground, not legs crossed, and then back support it,
so not on a stool or sitting up on the
exam table, and then your arm should be out in
front of you kind of like on a countertop at
(11:09):
about heart level. That's the ideal way to take your
blood pressure.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
My concern though, is that if your blood pressure goes
up with you know, just by changing your arm position
and it's super high, then you probably still need treatment.
Right if your blood pressure is two hundred over one hundred,
and again, that's hypertension, same thing as high blood pressure, right,
those are those are the same words. And we want
it one twenty or over eighty or below and really
(11:34):
if you can get it below one ten over seventy,
that's ideal, but above one forty over ninety, we start
looking at Wow. You know, those people definitely need treatment.
Other people with risk factors might even want treatment earlier.
So if you're coming in at two hundred over one hundred,
it's not your arm position that's causing the problem. But
(11:54):
if you're just like five to five to eight points
between being treated and being treated, then yeah, maybe this
would make a difference.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
See.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I guess to me, the thing about this study isn't
necessarily how important the arm position is and how it
can vary, Although that's important. What to me, what I
got out of it is that even in places like
doctor's offices, sometimes they are not taking the blood pressure
quote correctly.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Correctly, yeah, medisone is this weird mix, right of people
who you know, have a high school degree and maybe
took a course on how to do a front office
or back office, and so they're trained to do it
in a very quick, you know, simple way. And then
there's people who have you know, twenty years of education,
(12:43):
all in the same office. So you would hope that
all this information gets translated. But the assumption that everyone
knows the right way to take a blood pressure isn't correct.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, all right, doctor Jim. Always wonderful to speak with you,
of course anytime. Once again, congratulations on the new Giga.
We'll talk to you again next week.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Take care, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I want to get right to our guest. Governor Knewsom
recently signed a law that changes California's lemon law and
what your rights are when you get a lemon of
a car and what the car companies have to do.
But as he signed it, he said, I'm not in
love with this law. I'd like to see them change
(13:28):
it again. And if some car companies think it's a
good law and other car companies think it sucks. Some
consumer groups think it's a good law, but others think
it's terrible. So in order to unravel that and explain
right now kind of the state of your rights, I
(13:50):
wanted to have on somebody good, and we got somebody
really good. Eliezer Kim Esquire, founder managing partner of my
Lemon Lawyer Group. You know them as muchlemonlaw Lawyer dot com.
You hear Bill Handle talking about them all the time.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Good morning, Wayne, Thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
All right, let's get right into this. This new law
I want to focus I think on two things. One
is it sets If I understand it, this law sets
strict deadlines for the car companies to respond to complaints
and then do something about it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
If you send them a letter and say.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I, duff, declare my car a Lemon, they have thirty
days to respond, and they have another thirty days to
do something. Give you a new car, give you a rebate,
or whatever it is. Now, it seems like that would
be good for consumers. Because previously they could drag the
whole thing out. But do you agree it's good for
(14:52):
consumers or is there a caveat here?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I think there's a major caveat here. No, I don't
think it's a good idea. If it's like a SoundBite
like that, then it sounds like it's helping consumers, but
in fact it's not. And if in fact there is
any consumer group out there that believes this change is
good for consumers, I think you definitely need to get
them on your show because I like to hear what
they have to say. As far as I know, no
one thinks this is a good idea or a good
(15:17):
law that will eventually help consumers. Next year, I want
to start off by helping your listen understand the whole
purpose of lenin in law. Right. This is a lot
that was passing nineteen seventy by then Governor Ronald Reagan,
and throughout the years we've actually made some really good improvements.
This is not one of those. For example, we introduced
opening the law to military personnel so they can how
(15:40):
even if they're stationed somewhere else else out of state,
they can still file in California. We then open up
to small business owners. So some people use their business
vehicles for their own personal vehicles too, and we said,
that's fine, you can actually file for Lemon law in
that case. Under this new law, it takes away the
very core essence of California Lemon law, which is the
(16:03):
affirmative duty by car manufacturers to offer buybacks on their own. Okay,
so when we say that we now have to give
them notice and they have thirty days, then upon then
another thirty days, you've now taken away that affirmative duty
in the past and existing current Lemon law. The manufacturers
have to monitor on their own and then if they see,
(16:26):
oh well it looks like this customer's come in three
times already for the same problem, then we should offer
buyback on our own. That's what the law says. Now
does that actually happen in reality? No, And that's why
you've seen an increase in Lemon law lawsuits throughout the years,
which manufacturers are complaining about. But now this new law,
consumers have to send in a mailed letter and not
(16:50):
many people are going to know this too. Once it
starts on January first, there's going to be a lot
of confusion because consumers now have to send in a
written letter to a specific peel box mail i'm asum
it's gonna be a PO box with the big number,
an actual summary of their repair history, and then also
an actual demand, a demand of what they want. And
(17:12):
that's sometimes require some legal leads. Usually this is stuff
that's handled by attorneys. But now the consumers have to
do this on their own. And if they fail to
do this, guess what manufacturers can actually ignore what is
going on in in in in these uh in these vehicles.
So it actually creates an incentive for card manufacturers to
take us a sit back and see which consumers are
(17:37):
actually sending in letters and which are not. And uh
not only that, if they do receive a letter, there's
a new requirement that there has to be some kind
of a mediation right before a lossuit can be fouled.
Now again SoundBite wise, Well, if you're having mediations before
filing losses, isn't that it for everyone? The problem is
(18:00):
know in leminal lawsuits. These are actual civil litigation lawsuits
against major car manufacturers, which requires actual discovery or what
did they know? When did they know about this defect?
How many people have complained about this, What repairs and
fixes have they come up with? These are actual discovery
work that's done by Lemon Law attorneys in civil lawsuits.
(18:22):
When you go in mediation, you're stripping all of those
rights out because mediators don't have the same power that
judges do. There's no resource and that allows us to
go after and kind of discovery and mediations. So it
becomes a very stream streamline, if you want to say,
but also very weakened protection for especially for people who
(18:45):
have gone through a lot of egregious repair visits, repair histories,
and at the end of the day, most people think
that the dealership is the same as the manufacturer, right,
so when they go into the dealership and they complain,
they think they're actually talking to the manufacturer or representative
of the manufacturer. Dealerships are local businesses who have licenses
(19:08):
to service, repair, and sell these vehicles. So they think
that they've done enough when they dealt with dealerships and
gone in three, four or five times for the same problem,
and some people then resort to call it the one
a hundred number. But with this new requirement of this
written notice, manufacturers can take a feedback and see who
(19:29):
actually sends and mail the letters, and who don't. That's
a major problem for wow.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I knew, I knew that you would be able to
explain like cleanly and clearly how a limit, a time
limit for the car companies actually turns out to be
bad because it comes with the requirement that now the
burden is put on the car owner instead of on
(19:57):
the car company.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I didn't imagine it would be that clear and that compelling.
So I want to thank you very much for coming
on today. And just so people know, this is not
an infomercial or a paid thing. I was going to
talk about this law no matter what, and I said,
let's get somebody, and that's why you're here. And we
(20:19):
really we appreciate it very much. When they do something
else with it, we'll try to have you back on
as well. I appreciate your time, sir, Thank.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You very much. You know, I have a lot more
to say about this, so if your listeners want to
find this educational, if they find that, they want to
listen to more, because there are other important changes that
are being made, like the deadline and foul upsits civil
penalty components and things like that. It's just it's really
a bad law overall. There's a reason why car manufacturers
are against it, and only the major card companies like
(20:53):
GMS bord are happy about this because they have the
most limits out of all the manufacturers. And every consumer
writes act of this that I know is not happy
about the eiders. So if your listeners want to hear
more some of the time, I'm more than happy to
come on and talk about even more.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
All right, excellent, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Laser Kim, Founder, managing partner, my Lemon Lawyer Group, my
lemonlaw Lawyer dot com. A big event just wrapped up
in West Virginia in Marlinton, West Virginia, which is in
the middle of nowhere, and there's only a thousand people there,
(21:27):
but every year tens of thousands of people show up
for an annual cookoff. It is unlike any cookoff you
may be thinking of. And I wanted Neil to be
a part of this segment because Neil is, of course Fork.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know Neil that my friends and I we just
call you Fork.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I like it because of your show, The Fork Report.
You're like the foodie guy. Yeah, intimate and personal. This
is a road kill cookoff and it is been going
on for thirty three years. It started in nineteen ninety
one and it was inspired by a book that some
guy wrote. Have you ever seen this book? It's called
(22:09):
Roadkill Cooking by a guy named Jeff Eberbaugh.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I have.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I've talked about it on the show before as well. Oh,
so you know that book.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
There's a couple of them, actually, a couple of roadkill cookbooks.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So this is good that you know the book, because
I have not seen the book.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And I want to ask you a question, yes, sir,
because in the book, is he talking about using actual roadkill?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well, yes and no, Yes they are.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
There are people and there are some places where it's
completely legal to get roadkill. There are rules for roadkill
of course that they're fresh and they're still a tempt
on the animal and.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Things like that.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
But there so there are ways to cook roadkill and
there are people that do, however, at these events, and
there's more than one as well. At these events there
it's not roadkill, it's animals that would fall into that bores, gators,
ar medillas, snakes, frogs, things like that. So when you
(23:28):
go to these events, they're not actually road killed. They
are animals that are likely to be roadkilled, turtles, you'll
find a lot of chilis and stews.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
To be honest with you, oh, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, it probably helps to mask you know, what's going on.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's why I wanted to know if the book was
talking about actual, honest to God and animals been hit
and you pick it up and you cook it, which
is allowed in parts of the country. But as you said,
Festival like the others, it's not actual roadkill.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's just the.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Kind of animals that you might see as roadkill. And
in fact, the rules are here. It has to be
hunted or farmed the animal that you're using. There's also
a requirement that whatever you're making has to be at
least twenty five percent meat. So you can't do you
(24:27):
can't make like a bean chili and put a tiny
little bit of venison in it.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Well, no, and they tend it to be you know,
they want it to shine and they want the ingredient
to be the star. But in regards to the book,
and I may be getting a couple of them confused,
because like I said, there's more than one. There absolutely
is a section to break down how to properly get roadkill,
(24:54):
the signs, and really it talks about it's not very appetite,
talks about bloating, talks about secretions, talks about all these
things that you look for when you see roadkill to
know if it's okay to eat or not. And so, yeah,
they're anticipating. It kind of falls around that self sustaining survivalist,
(25:20):
off the grid kind of stuff, and so in that sense, yes,
it's absolutely talking about roadkill. And then there's some you know,
tongue in cheek, but they're legitimate recipes for squirrel or
raccoon or you know, things that you would find as roadkill.
I would imagine, you know, throughout our history the reason
(25:43):
why we don't eat some of these things because you're
better off to feel feed the family or the community
with larger animals.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But well, although deers, deers, deers are pretty are pretty big.
And in this year there was.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
A that's roadkill, it is, but we eat venison normally,
you eat buffalo venison. Some of these things are bore
are sort of normal.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What about bear?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
There was a fried bear dish and the team that
was cooking it said, you know, you can get about
fifty pounds of meat off of a black bear.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, it's them not wanting to give it to you,
is the problem? Fighting the bear for that fifty pounds
of meat is going up against nine hundred pounds of
I don't want you to have it, all.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right, Neil, Thank you, buddy. I'll see you tomorrow. It's
too late.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's too late for this year. But next year we're
going people. Yeah, well I go to Martin. There it
is and this is true. It is their version of
Coachella or the super Bowl. It's a big deal. You're
a big deal.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You're a big deal.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Gary and Shannon are a big deal and they are
come right up after some news from Amy King. This
is KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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