October 14, 2024 • 28 mins
Wayne Resnick fills in for Bill while he is out on vacation this week. How The Election Will Affect Your Taxes. Boar’s Head Leaders Are Mysterious AF. The Truth About Controlling Hurricanes. Meatless Monday.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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iHeartRadio app. Hey everybody, it is the Bill Handle Morning Show.
Wayne was having some tech problems, so I'm coming in.
Look at this. Don't a plot? Come on, sit down, everybody. Jeez.
(00:24):
He hero is a strong word, but I appreciate it.
ConA knife, sayy, come on. Thanks. All right, I'll be
with you until nine o'clock and we'll figure things out
and hopefully everything gets back tomorrow. So I've always been
kind of the person that says, politicians talk a lot,
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but do little. I know some of them try. That's
not to say they're all bad. I'm not that guy either,
but I will tell you very rarely do things affect
us on our day to day lives. Now, the difference
in that, one major difference in that is a Supreme Court. Okay,
when presidents are appointing justices to the Supreme Court, as
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we've seen with Roe v. Wade, they can make decisions
that affect that half the population in that particular case.
But what about your taxes? When it comes to your taxes,
there's two distinctive views when you start looking at the
party in power, and then you have to look at
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not only a party in power that's in the White House,
but you have to look at the House, the Senate
and so on. Right, So, how is this going to
affect us? Truly, we are not far and you can
almost hear an audible ticking. We are not far from
the election. Heard Amy talking this morning on wake up
(01:54):
call about how she can't wait for it to be
over because of every you we're bombarded everywhere. I've got
stack of cardboard that come to my house every single
day with someone telling me how great they are and
now I should vote for them. So what really is
at stake is possibly the taxes for a couple different reasons,
one of which in twenty seventeen, we had some tax
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cuts that were put in place, and if depending on
who gets in office, that might be a battle situation
as to whether those are going to go away or
they're going to stay. So in this particular upcoming election,
who wins could be a big deal into how our
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taxes are going to affect us on an individual level
in our homes. That really matters, not big you know,
massive concepts like you know, climate change or things like that.
I'm talking about day to day stuff and depending on
which party cans the House, the Senate, and the White House.
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And I love this. We have three options. Taxes go up,
taxes go down, or taxes stay the same. Yeah, like
everything else in life, the price may go up, the
price may go down, or it stays the same. A
lot of money's evolved, and the most important money is
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your money, my money. That's what we're concerned about. Everyone's
trying to predict what's going to happen, but there's so
there's a couple of pieces that matter, and how those
pieces land is gonna be huge as to what might happen.
So the Republican victory, if Republicans win big, maybe they're
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going to keep those tax cuts I was talking about.
They were put in place in twenty seventeen. They believe
those helped the economy. You think they're going to change that.
Probably not. They want to extend lower tax rates. They
want to have some special deductions for small businesses, which
would be great. God knows, California could use that kind
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of attitude. However, they may face challenges. Not only you think,
oh well, from the other side. No, they can have
challenges in their own party. We're seeing more now than ever,
and it's happening to both parties. But really, really, in
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the GOP you have a fractured focus. Everyone says that
they're all rallying, rallying around Trump, and a good number
are in the whole MAGA movement, but belief in the
specifics on how these things will iron out, especially things
with taxes, could be much different. So they're gonna have
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to find a way to balance that budget. Democratic victory.
I don't know if Democrats take control. We already know
they're looking at a couple of things. They're gonna aim
to help families. The thing that gets me, do you
know what the demarcation is? They want to help families
earning under four hundred thousand dollars, and the way they're
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gonna do that is keeping tax cuts for them. Four
hundred thousand dollars we're talking about almost half a million
dollars now becomes this this breaking point, that's how expensive
it's getting to be just to live. So they take control,
they be in the Democrats, they're going to try and
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help families. They're gonna want to help families earning under
four hundred thousand dollars by keeping tax cuts for them.
But they're very much focused on raising taxes on wealthier households.
So wealthier households are four hundred thousand and one dollar
a nickel. They could also push for more child tax credits,
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which I have a child, won't think it. But agreeing
on a budget is going to be difficult as well.
So you've got a divided possibility of a divided government,
which puts us in a whole different category. So now
if you have different parties that are controlling the White
House Congress, it could be massive conflict. And why is
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that bigger in this particular election or this case Because
you've got those tax deadlines approaching. There's a chance for
both sides to find common ground fingers crossed. They've done
that in past years. It is possible, but it could
also get messy. And if nothing changes, if Congress doesn't
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act at all, many tax cuts from twenty seventeen will
expire after after twenty twenty five, I think, is what
it is. So that's gonna result in higher taxes for
many households. So do we know what's gonna happen? No,
And we're gonna have to. We're gonna have to see
the pieces of the puzzle actually hit the tabletop before
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we're gonna know how that's gonna play out. But that's
the real thing. That's the real thing that affects us
immediately once someone gets into office, we shall see. Amy.
Let me ask you a question. Yes you work here
at iHeartRadio, Yes, I do? Or iHeartMedia, of which iHeartRadio
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is part of. Who's the CEO of iHeartMedia? Is it Pittman?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, Bob Pittman.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Huh Heykno, who's the CEO of iHeartMedia?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Mister Bob Pittman exact?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know? And that's from Kno. Kono knows who our
CEO is as he doesn't even know how we got here. Oh, Amy,
I'm glad you asked. I'm going to tell you this
right now. Boar's head under under the microscope and in
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in the light in a way I never cared about before,
to be honest with you, and it has to do
with secrecy. I never knew there was some sort of
Boarshead dynasty with all this sexy and titillating cheese may
that is going on. So you go back in May
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of twenty twenty two. You have the chief financial officer
of Boar's Head. Now we all know great meat processing company.
We love their stuff. They're facing what should be a
simple question. But during this legal proceeding, this person was
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asked who is the CEO of Boar's Head? And you
know what his reply was, I'm not sure. How the
hell can you have a company and not know who
the CEO is. Everybody's eyebrows raise, especially since Bar's Head
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is like a massive player in the deli meat industry, right,
like the massive player, earning about three billion dollars a
year and employing thousands of people. But Boarshead is a
privately owned company by two families, the Bronkhorsts Moubuy and
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the Bishkoffs. Yeh sound like wealthy people, don't they. Now
they're very secretive. I never knew this. I'm the folk
reporter and I didn't know this. I just like the
meatss So they're super secretive. Tom Johnson is an industry expert.
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He noted that they are among the most secretive in
the business. Ah, who would have known that? And it's
been even more notable as the company has light shine
on them. Why because if you remember in the summer
of twenty twenty two, he had ten people die and
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a lot more that got sick from lasteria, that harmful
bacteria we all know and love. Now they could in
their cases they consumed liverwurst. It was made at a
boars Head factory in Virginia. Now law enforcements still investigating,
but we've talked about this on the forker Port many,
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many times, and even here on a foody Friday with Bill.
The factory was shut down. They didn't even say, Okay,
we're gonna clean it, We're gonna take care of whatever.
There was so many different lists of issues, from non
podable water to bugs to I think there were rodents
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all kinds like this is no joke. And I've been
to Haffe the meat plant out in Vernon here and
they were kind enough to invite me to come down,
and I will tell you, and this is not hyperbole,
you could eat off the floor. A proper fabricating factory
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of meat is gonna be one of the cleanest places
you'll ever go. That's the way it should be. And
I witnessed that with mine own e and I've been
to a handful of them. So the fact that you
have any of these things, one of those things would
be a problem. So we all know about that story, right,
They just shut it down. Not one family member has
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publicly addressed this the situation at all. As a matter
of fact, there was an apology on their website and
you know what was signed, sincerely Boor's head. Could you
imagine that? No CEO. There's no head, there's no name
on that, neither of the families the controlling parties. So
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who runs the company? Well, the daily operations are handled
by Carlos Giraldo. He's the president. He was promoted in
twenty twenty one. But in court testimony, in court testimony, rather,
it was revealed that the final decisions don't come from him.
They come from three family members, Bob Martin who's seventy four,
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his son Bob Junior, who's fifty, and their cousin Frank Bronkhorst,
the third thanks, I mean that he's sixty one. Now
the company's expanded, they continue to grow. Originally we're out
of Brooklyn. If you don't know that, over fifteen years,
family reported receiving around one point five billion in cash distributions,
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and there's been some infighting there's a family member who
sued his cousins multiple times over company shares than that,
so more each time someone sues, each time there's a problem,
a little more comes to light. Back in May of
two thousand and five, they Sell Or Bore His Head
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celebrated their one hundredth anniversary at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel
in New York. Bob Martin one of the family members.
He was kind of the star, real charming, wealthy guy.
He presented the whole history of the company began with
their horse drawn carriage selling deli meets all this stuff right,
but ultimately everything keeps coming to light because of issues,
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new leadership, ongoing issues into the two thousands. With twenty
twenty two, with the outbreak, you've got more increased scrutiny
and focus. And still when they're hiring all these new
food safety experts, which you think should be, you know,
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top of it, we're learning that we still don't know
exactly who's pulling the strings. That's bizarre for an American
company in twenty twenty four to not know who the
CEO is. So maybe we're learning that there's more more messy,
dirty stuff behind the scenes than just you know rodents
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or the possibility of rodents or non potable water. Stay tuned.
We'll let you know what's going on the days of
our borehead. Can we control the weather? I'll pause for
people to go what People are becoming more and more
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interested in trying to control the weather. Obviously it would
be a huge deal to be able to control the weather.
Hurricanes are just too powerful to manage. That's the reality. However,
you're saying, Neil, I know that's the reality. Bro Right,
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I got a seven year old boy. Right. Recently, you've
got meteor meteorologists warned people about approaching hurricanes. Right, there's
still some strange conspiracy theories that are spreading, because that's
what we do now. We actually have evolved from them.
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You look back at the stupid things they believed, you know,
like the sun revolved around on the Earth and all
those things, right, and we, oh, my god, they're so stupid.
How can they believe that? There's those stupid And then
we got smarter, grew in technology and wisdom, and apparently
it's an ebb and floating. We're going back to me
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those stupid you know. It reminds me of someone posted
a screenshot of the Flat Earth Society's website that says
we have you know, millions of or hundreds of thousands
of member on every corner or whatever, every corner of
the globe or something like that. Well, what's a globe
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if you're a flat earther? Any who, we believe weird
things sometimes, and these conspiracies get out of hand. Some
messages claim that meteorologists were working with a government to
create hurricanes and aim them at specific places. Why, because
now the weather is political, the government could say move
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a hurricane here. And this idea gained a lot of
traction after Hurricane Helene as the hurricane as Hurricane Milton
was approaching, and then leading to wild all kinds of
accusations that storms were being used as weather weapons against
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certain political groups. So you know where my brain goes.
My brain goes down to different parts. And I started
thinking like, well, wasn't that, isn't that like parts of
like didn't that happen like in movies? Right? Haven't we
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seen that movie? And then I looked it up. Listen
to this. I know this is a total rabbit trail,
but I'm sorry. I am filling in for Bill doctor Franklin.
Anybody remember him epic three part series of the six
mini dollar Man slash Bionic Woman crossover called kill Oscar.
He was a guy who controlled I think he's the
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one with the fembots. He was the one who who
wanted to control the weather. Nicholas Demente from Get Smart
Again wanted to control the weather galaxy. It was a
James Bond parody. There was a guy wanted to control
the weather. And it goes on and on and on
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throughout movie and television history that there are people that
wanted to control the weather. So it has gone through
total hilarity. Next, we're gonna we're gonna say, like grew
from Despicable Me, that someone's gonna try and steal the moon.
Don't steal the moon. I got the moon. I got
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the moon. Be uh So, despite all these theories, by
the way, if you don't know the conclusion of where
I'm going here, zero roof meteorologists or government officials or
anyone can control hurricanes in any way. Hurricanes are massive,
they're huge storms. Humans cannot direct or influence. Now here's
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the problem, And this is how bad information gets out.
And I said this millions and millions of times. There's
a difference between good sound reasoning and reasons that sound good.
So reasons that sound good can have little bits and
pieces that are true enough to make you go, oh maybe,
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so so where does that come from? Can we actually
mess with the weather? Sort of? Scientists have experimented for
a long time the ways to change the weather. This
one you may have heard of cloud seating. Have you
ever heard of cloud seating where they actually put a
substance in clouds to produce rain. So they it's like
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jiggling the cloud atually, you're doing something to make the
water heavier and to drop out of the cloud, because
that's how real rain works. So why we drowsed this says,
And well, see that's the thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes
it doesn't, and it's not it's not a precise science
at this point, but they have pride. So that's to
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say science is looking at ways to do that, to
make it. You know, I think they should show Cloud's
toy story three that does it for me, or the
notebook and then yeah, there'll be plenty of rain. Dudes
are like no books not said it's lame. It was
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it was in the little time all right, So scientists
are messing one of these things. There's also some scientists
that also proposed other ideas like reflecting sunlight, like to
cool the earth, like that one weird neighbor who has
like foil or those mirrored windows, and you think, well, yeah,
I guess that would work. You're keeping the heat out.
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It's bouncing back, right, But they want to do that
with the world. So the entire planet is going to
look a little I don't know, ghetto culture, not the
you know it's like, and that's not towards a specific group.
I just mean that there's every group has ghetto culture.
That's the I'm sorry, that's the reality. You can go
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and find anybody anywhere on the planet and there is
a ghetto culture to that whoever that culture is. So,
but hurricanes, you're not going to do it. It's like
trying to knock the earth off the access with all
of us jumping at the same time, or at least
one hemisphere, right, So it creating hurricanes is impossible. Even
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cloud seating, if you think about it, you have to
have clouds, so you're not even controlling the weather. You
have to have clouds first, and then you're trying to
manipulate the clouds that are there. So all these different
things that we've even messed around with, we haven't been
able to make happen, even in the simple way. So
if you've got a cousin, uncle, neighbor who's calling you
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and telling you about the big conspiracy about the government
making storms in certain areas, it's not true. Anyways. Happy
to round things out today as we hand things over
to Gary and Shannon shortly, So go nowhere. All right,
this is meatless Monday. Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Your feet till you hand.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You not mean to eat your mind needs?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I got you coloring the baby on my needs anyway,
you're my meat is for meatless mondays.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
That's just how about it's just another meat less Monday.
Oh I wish it was auday.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh probaly shouldn't sing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I probably shouldn't sing.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, needless Monday's up.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
All right, let's do this. The Vegan Society applauds the
removal of veganism from the NHS's Prevent Prevent training. So
here's the thing. There are some animal activists out there
that do bad things, but it doesn't mean that all
vegans are. So the Vegan Society is happy to announce
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that veganism has been removed from certain training materials. It
follows the efforts by the International Rights Network and doctor
Jeannette Rowley, an legal expert on human rights. So this
takes place in part in UK and the government strategy
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to identify people that are going to be a problem, right,
that are going to be at the risk of radicalization,
and anybody can I mean any group. You can have
radical Christians, Muslims, are there, radical Jews? Yeah, what's the
radical do you look like? Oh? You mean just maybe
like Israeli who like Oh, okay, I don't know. But
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you can have radicals in any group. And yes, you
can have radical vegans that are so focused when it
comes to animal rights that they care less about human rights.
And that means you. So there has been some radical behavior,
some extremist behavior, but now they're taking that down. They've
even been accused of some extreme not only extremeism, but terrorism.
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So looking back at this and in its modern time
and the activities they're backing off, vegans and those considered
considering veganism, they say have been unfairly targeted. I don't
know about that. In the early days. There might have
been some some issues, but they have the counter terrorism
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measures and they say stop doing that. We just care
about animals, even though there has been some sabotage and
things like that in the past. But good on them,
all right. Second story on Meatless Monday, here's a guy
and I have feeling. I got little feels about this
one guy who has a disagreement with his wife wife's
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vegetarian diet. Now, vegans would say vegetarians are hacks. It's
like pick a side, right, So the guy goes He
received all this support online because he shared his difficulty
with his wife's strict vegetarian diet, which is fine, but
she insists that everyone in the whole family has to
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live by it. Now, I suppose if you're a parent,
you could dictate what your kids are gonna eat. I
get that, but your spouse. So he shares his post
and back in August and it has over fourteenth up votes.
People started this big discussion about food choices and compromise
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in marriage, which you have to have. So this thirty
eight year old man explained that his thirty five year
old wife had you know, her desired food choices, and
she converted to a new religion, and that's going to
be cause pressure itself, which requires her to stop eating meat,
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trying to think vegetarian diet. There's a couple out there,
but the whole family, including their two young sons. And
I'm not a fan of putting kids on these certain
types of diets. I think that they're especially when they're young,
there can be issues. You really have to manage it
in a particular way, otherwise I think it could be
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quite damaging. I know people are like, oh, it's the
best thing in the world. Well no, no, not necessarily.
You can have an unhealthy vegan diet, a vegetarian diet,
meat diet, omnivore diet, all of them. You could do
it in an unhelpful way. So along with not eating meat,
his wife now doesn't want to be around it. So
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in her home she says, swap pork for jackfruit, which
is pretty tasty, and eggs for plant based substitutes. Okay,
so she's not even really a vegetarian per se because
she's not eating eggs either, And vegetarians could tell them
ov ovo something vegetarians so use plat based substitutes. And
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he's just saying it's causing this massive problem, and that
he's drawing a line in the sand. And so he
he goes ahead and eats meat when she's gone. But see,
there's a saying that if you demand someone to change,
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you're really demanding them to lie to you because they
are who they are. Right, So in any relationship, yes,
there's going to be compromised. But when the compromises do
what I say, there's a problem. I mean, this isn't
smoking or something you know, or drinking something detrimental. Inherently,
this is food that you're eating, your choice. So what
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brings you joy? So any who, all I'm saying probably
a whole family needs to go to therapy. Cool betterhelp
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Wayne was having some tech problems, so I'm coming in.
Look at this. Don't a plot? Come on, sit down, everybody. Jeez.
(00:24):
He hero is a strong word, but I appreciate it.
ConA knife, sayy, come on. Thanks. All right, I'll be
with you until nine o'clock and we'll figure things out
and hopefully everything gets back tomorrow. So I've always been
kind of the person that says, politicians talk a lot,
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but do little. I know some of them try. That's
not to say they're all bad. I'm not that guy either,
but I will tell you very rarely do things affect
us on our day to day lives. Now, the difference
in that, one major difference in that is a Supreme Court. Okay,
when presidents are appointing justices to the Supreme Court, as
(01:10):
we've seen with Roe v. Wade, they can make decisions
that affect that half the population in that particular case.
But what about your taxes? When it comes to your taxes,
there's two distinctive views when you start looking at the
party in power, and then you have to look at
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not only a party in power that's in the White House,
but you have to look at the House, the Senate
and so on. Right, So, how is this going to
affect us? Truly, we are not far and you can
almost hear an audible ticking. We are not far from
the election. Heard Amy talking this morning on wake up
(01:54):
call about how she can't wait for it to be
over because of every you we're bombarded everywhere. I've got
stack of cardboard that come to my house every single
day with someone telling me how great they are and
now I should vote for them. So what really is
at stake is possibly the taxes for a couple different reasons,
one of which in twenty seventeen, we had some tax
(02:16):
cuts that were put in place, and if depending on
who gets in office, that might be a battle situation
as to whether those are going to go away or
they're going to stay. So in this particular upcoming election,
who wins could be a big deal into how our
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taxes are going to affect us on an individual level
in our homes. That really matters, not big you know,
massive concepts like you know, climate change or things like that.
I'm talking about day to day stuff and depending on
which party cans the House, the Senate, and the White House.
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And I love this. We have three options. Taxes go up,
taxes go down, or taxes stay the same. Yeah, like
everything else in life, the price may go up, the
price may go down, or it stays the same. A
lot of money's evolved, and the most important money is
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your money, my money. That's what we're concerned about. Everyone's
trying to predict what's going to happen, but there's so
there's a couple of pieces that matter, and how those
pieces land is gonna be huge as to what might happen.
So the Republican victory, if Republicans win big, maybe they're
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going to keep those tax cuts I was talking about.
They were put in place in twenty seventeen. They believe
those helped the economy. You think they're going to change that.
Probably not. They want to extend lower tax rates. They
want to have some special deductions for small businesses, which
would be great. God knows, California could use that kind
(04:15):
of attitude. However, they may face challenges. Not only you think,
oh well, from the other side. No, they can have
challenges in their own party. We're seeing more now than ever,
and it's happening to both parties. But really, really, in
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the GOP you have a fractured focus. Everyone says that
they're all rallying, rallying around Trump, and a good number
are in the whole MAGA movement, but belief in the
specifics on how these things will iron out, especially things
with taxes, could be much different. So they're gonna have
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to find a way to balance that budget. Democratic victory.
I don't know if Democrats take control. We already know
they're looking at a couple of things. They're gonna aim
to help families. The thing that gets me, do you
know what the demarcation is? They want to help families
earning under four hundred thousand dollars, and the way they're
(05:27):
gonna do that is keeping tax cuts for them. Four
hundred thousand dollars we're talking about almost half a million
dollars now becomes this this breaking point, that's how expensive
it's getting to be just to live. So they take control,
they be in the Democrats, they're going to try and
(05:49):
help families. They're gonna want to help families earning under
four hundred thousand dollars by keeping tax cuts for them.
But they're very much focused on raising taxes on wealthier households.
So wealthier households are four hundred thousand and one dollar
a nickel. They could also push for more child tax credits,
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which I have a child, won't think it. But agreeing
on a budget is going to be difficult as well.
So you've got a divided possibility of a divided government,
which puts us in a whole different category. So now
if you have different parties that are controlling the White
House Congress, it could be massive conflict. And why is
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that bigger in this particular election or this case Because
you've got those tax deadlines approaching. There's a chance for
both sides to find common ground fingers crossed. They've done
that in past years. It is possible, but it could
also get messy. And if nothing changes, if Congress doesn't
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act at all, many tax cuts from twenty seventeen will
expire after after twenty twenty five, I think, is what
it is. So that's gonna result in higher taxes for
many households. So do we know what's gonna happen? No,
And we're gonna have to. We're gonna have to see
the pieces of the puzzle actually hit the tabletop before
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we're gonna know how that's gonna play out. But that's
the real thing. That's the real thing that affects us
immediately once someone gets into office, we shall see. Amy.
Let me ask you a question. Yes you work here
at iHeartRadio, Yes, I do? Or iHeartMedia, of which iHeartRadio
(07:42):
is part of. Who's the CEO of iHeartMedia? Is it Pittman?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, Bob Pittman.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Huh Heykno, who's the CEO of iHeartMedia?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Mister Bob Pittman exact?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know? And that's from Kno. Kono knows who our
CEO is as he doesn't even know how we got here. Oh, Amy,
I'm glad you asked. I'm going to tell you this
right now. Boar's head under under the microscope and in
(08:24):
in the light in a way I never cared about before,
to be honest with you, and it has to do
with secrecy. I never knew there was some sort of
Boarshead dynasty with all this sexy and titillating cheese may
that is going on. So you go back in May
(08:44):
of twenty twenty two. You have the chief financial officer
of Boar's Head. Now we all know great meat processing company.
We love their stuff. They're facing what should be a
simple question. But during this legal proceeding, this person was
(09:07):
asked who is the CEO of Boar's Head? And you
know what his reply was, I'm not sure. How the
hell can you have a company and not know who
the CEO is. Everybody's eyebrows raise, especially since Bar's Head
(09:30):
is like a massive player in the deli meat industry, right,
like the massive player, earning about three billion dollars a
year and employing thousands of people. But Boarshead is a
privately owned company by two families, the Bronkhorsts Moubuy and
(09:56):
the Bishkoffs. Yeh sound like wealthy people, don't they. Now
they're very secretive. I never knew this. I'm the folk
reporter and I didn't know this. I just like the
meatss So they're super secretive. Tom Johnson is an industry expert.
(10:18):
He noted that they are among the most secretive in
the business. Ah, who would have known that? And it's
been even more notable as the company has light shine
on them. Why because if you remember in the summer
of twenty twenty two, he had ten people die and
(10:41):
a lot more that got sick from lasteria, that harmful
bacteria we all know and love. Now they could in
their cases they consumed liverwurst. It was made at a
boars Head factory in Virginia. Now law enforcements still investigating,
but we've talked about this on the forker Port many,
(11:01):
many times, and even here on a foody Friday with Bill.
The factory was shut down. They didn't even say, Okay,
we're gonna clean it, We're gonna take care of whatever.
There was so many different lists of issues, from non
podable water to bugs to I think there were rodents
(11:23):
all kinds like this is no joke. And I've been
to Haffe the meat plant out in Vernon here and
they were kind enough to invite me to come down,
and I will tell you, and this is not hyperbole,
you could eat off the floor. A proper fabricating factory
(11:50):
of meat is gonna be one of the cleanest places
you'll ever go. That's the way it should be. And
I witnessed that with mine own e and I've been
to a handful of them. So the fact that you
have any of these things, one of those things would
be a problem. So we all know about that story, right,
They just shut it down. Not one family member has
(12:15):
publicly addressed this the situation at all. As a matter
of fact, there was an apology on their website and
you know what was signed, sincerely Boor's head. Could you
imagine that? No CEO. There's no head, there's no name
on that, neither of the families the controlling parties. So
(12:35):
who runs the company? Well, the daily operations are handled
by Carlos Giraldo. He's the president. He was promoted in
twenty twenty one. But in court testimony, in court testimony, rather,
it was revealed that the final decisions don't come from him.
They come from three family members, Bob Martin who's seventy four,
(12:56):
his son Bob Junior, who's fifty, and their cousin Frank Bronkhorst,
the third thanks, I mean that he's sixty one. Now
the company's expanded, they continue to grow. Originally we're out
of Brooklyn. If you don't know that, over fifteen years,
family reported receiving around one point five billion in cash distributions,
(13:19):
and there's been some infighting there's a family member who
sued his cousins multiple times over company shares than that,
so more each time someone sues, each time there's a problem,
a little more comes to light. Back in May of
two thousand and five, they Sell Or Bore His Head
(13:40):
celebrated their one hundredth anniversary at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel
in New York. Bob Martin one of the family members.
He was kind of the star, real charming, wealthy guy.
He presented the whole history of the company began with
their horse drawn carriage selling deli meets all this stuff right,
but ultimately everything keeps coming to light because of issues,
(14:07):
new leadership, ongoing issues into the two thousands. With twenty
twenty two, with the outbreak, you've got more increased scrutiny
and focus. And still when they're hiring all these new
food safety experts, which you think should be, you know,
(14:27):
top of it, we're learning that we still don't know
exactly who's pulling the strings. That's bizarre for an American
company in twenty twenty four to not know who the
CEO is. So maybe we're learning that there's more more messy,
dirty stuff behind the scenes than just you know rodents
(14:51):
or the possibility of rodents or non potable water. Stay tuned.
We'll let you know what's going on the days of
our borehead. Can we control the weather? I'll pause for
people to go what People are becoming more and more
(15:13):
interested in trying to control the weather. Obviously it would
be a huge deal to be able to control the weather.
Hurricanes are just too powerful to manage. That's the reality. However,
you're saying, Neil, I know that's the reality. Bro Right,
(15:33):
I got a seven year old boy. Right. Recently, you've
got meteor meteorologists warned people about approaching hurricanes. Right, there's
still some strange conspiracy theories that are spreading, because that's
what we do now. We actually have evolved from them.
(15:55):
You look back at the stupid things they believed, you know,
like the sun revolved around on the Earth and all
those things, right, and we, oh, my god, they're so stupid.
How can they believe that? There's those stupid And then
we got smarter, grew in technology and wisdom, and apparently
it's an ebb and floating. We're going back to me
(16:17):
those stupid you know. It reminds me of someone posted
a screenshot of the Flat Earth Society's website that says
we have you know, millions of or hundreds of thousands
of member on every corner or whatever, every corner of
the globe or something like that. Well, what's a globe
(16:39):
if you're a flat earther? Any who, we believe weird
things sometimes, and these conspiracies get out of hand. Some
messages claim that meteorologists were working with a government to
create hurricanes and aim them at specific places. Why, because
now the weather is political, the government could say move
(17:03):
a hurricane here. And this idea gained a lot of
traction after Hurricane Helene as the hurricane as Hurricane Milton
was approaching, and then leading to wild all kinds of
accusations that storms were being used as weather weapons against
(17:24):
certain political groups. So you know where my brain goes.
My brain goes down to different parts. And I started
thinking like, well, wasn't that, isn't that like parts of
like didn't that happen like in movies? Right? Haven't we
(17:47):
seen that movie? And then I looked it up. Listen
to this. I know this is a total rabbit trail,
but I'm sorry. I am filling in for Bill doctor Franklin.
Anybody remember him epic three part series of the six
mini dollar Man slash Bionic Woman crossover called kill Oscar.
He was a guy who controlled I think he's the
(18:08):
one with the fembots. He was the one who who
wanted to control the weather. Nicholas Demente from Get Smart
Again wanted to control the weather galaxy. It was a
James Bond parody. There was a guy wanted to control
the weather. And it goes on and on and on
(18:29):
throughout movie and television history that there are people that
wanted to control the weather. So it has gone through
total hilarity. Next, we're gonna we're gonna say, like grew
from Despicable Me, that someone's gonna try and steal the moon.
Don't steal the moon. I got the moon. I got
(18:50):
the moon. Be uh So, despite all these theories, by
the way, if you don't know the conclusion of where
I'm going here, zero roof meteorologists or government officials or
anyone can control hurricanes in any way. Hurricanes are massive,
they're huge storms. Humans cannot direct or influence. Now here's
(19:12):
the problem, And this is how bad information gets out.
And I said this millions and millions of times. There's
a difference between good sound reasoning and reasons that sound good.
So reasons that sound good can have little bits and
pieces that are true enough to make you go, oh maybe,
(19:35):
so so where does that come from? Can we actually
mess with the weather? Sort of? Scientists have experimented for
a long time the ways to change the weather. This
one you may have heard of cloud seating. Have you
ever heard of cloud seating where they actually put a
substance in clouds to produce rain. So they it's like
(19:58):
jiggling the cloud atually, you're doing something to make the
water heavier and to drop out of the cloud, because
that's how real rain works. So why we drowsed this says,
And well, see that's the thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes
it doesn't, and it's not it's not a precise science
at this point, but they have pride. So that's to
(20:19):
say science is looking at ways to do that, to
make it. You know, I think they should show Cloud's
toy story three that does it for me, or the
notebook and then yeah, there'll be plenty of rain. Dudes
are like no books not said it's lame. It was
(20:44):
it was in the little time all right, So scientists
are messing one of these things. There's also some scientists
that also proposed other ideas like reflecting sunlight, like to
cool the earth, like that one weird neighbor who has
like foil or those mirrored windows, and you think, well, yeah,
I guess that would work. You're keeping the heat out.
(21:06):
It's bouncing back, right, But they want to do that
with the world. So the entire planet is going to
look a little I don't know, ghetto culture, not the
you know it's like, and that's not towards a specific group.
I just mean that there's every group has ghetto culture.
That's the I'm sorry, that's the reality. You can go
(21:26):
and find anybody anywhere on the planet and there is
a ghetto culture to that whoever that culture is. So,
but hurricanes, you're not going to do it. It's like
trying to knock the earth off the access with all
of us jumping at the same time, or at least
one hemisphere, right, So it creating hurricanes is impossible. Even
(21:50):
cloud seating, if you think about it, you have to
have clouds, so you're not even controlling the weather. You
have to have clouds first, and then you're trying to
manipulate the clouds that are there. So all these different
things that we've even messed around with, we haven't been
able to make happen, even in the simple way. So
if you've got a cousin, uncle, neighbor who's calling you
(22:11):
and telling you about the big conspiracy about the government
making storms in certain areas, it's not true. Anyways. Happy
to round things out today as we hand things over
to Gary and Shannon shortly, So go nowhere. All right,
this is meatless Monday. Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Your feet till you hand.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You not mean to eat your mind needs?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I got you coloring the baby on my needs anyway,
you're my meat is for meatless mondays.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
That's just how about it's just another meat less Monday.
Oh I wish it was auday.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh probaly shouldn't sing.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I probably shouldn't sing.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, needless Monday's up.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
All right, let's do this. The Vegan Society applauds the
removal of veganism from the NHS's Prevent Prevent training. So
here's the thing. There are some animal activists out there
that do bad things, but it doesn't mean that all
vegans are. So the Vegan Society is happy to announce
(23:24):
that veganism has been removed from certain training materials. It
follows the efforts by the International Rights Network and doctor
Jeannette Rowley, an legal expert on human rights. So this
takes place in part in UK and the government strategy
(23:44):
to identify people that are going to be a problem, right,
that are going to be at the risk of radicalization,
and anybody can I mean any group. You can have
radical Christians, Muslims, are there, radical Jews? Yeah, what's the
radical do you look like? Oh? You mean just maybe
like Israeli who like Oh, okay, I don't know. But
(24:12):
you can have radicals in any group. And yes, you
can have radical vegans that are so focused when it
comes to animal rights that they care less about human rights.
And that means you. So there has been some radical behavior,
some extremist behavior, but now they're taking that down. They've
even been accused of some extreme not only extremeism, but terrorism.
(24:36):
So looking back at this and in its modern time
and the activities they're backing off, vegans and those considered
considering veganism, they say have been unfairly targeted. I don't
know about that. In the early days. There might have
been some some issues, but they have the counter terrorism
(24:59):
measures and they say stop doing that. We just care
about animals, even though there has been some sabotage and
things like that in the past. But good on them,
all right. Second story on Meatless Monday, here's a guy
and I have feeling. I got little feels about this
one guy who has a disagreement with his wife wife's
(25:20):
vegetarian diet. Now, vegans would say vegetarians are hacks. It's
like pick a side, right, So the guy goes He
received all this support online because he shared his difficulty
with his wife's strict vegetarian diet, which is fine, but
she insists that everyone in the whole family has to
(25:44):
live by it. Now, I suppose if you're a parent,
you could dictate what your kids are gonna eat. I
get that, but your spouse. So he shares his post
and back in August and it has over fourteenth up votes.
People started this big discussion about food choices and compromise
(26:06):
in marriage, which you have to have. So this thirty
eight year old man explained that his thirty five year
old wife had you know, her desired food choices, and
she converted to a new religion, and that's going to
be cause pressure itself, which requires her to stop eating meat,
(26:27):
trying to think vegetarian diet. There's a couple out there,
but the whole family, including their two young sons. And
I'm not a fan of putting kids on these certain
types of diets. I think that they're especially when they're young,
there can be issues. You really have to manage it
in a particular way, otherwise I think it could be
(26:48):
quite damaging. I know people are like, oh, it's the
best thing in the world. Well no, no, not necessarily.
You can have an unhealthy vegan diet, a vegetarian diet,
meat diet, omnivore diet, all of them. You could do
it in an unhelpful way. So along with not eating meat,
his wife now doesn't want to be around it. So
(27:10):
in her home she says, swap pork for jackfruit, which
is pretty tasty, and eggs for plant based substitutes. Okay,
so she's not even really a vegetarian per se because
she's not eating eggs either, And vegetarians could tell them
ov ovo something vegetarians so use plat based substitutes. And
(27:33):
he's just saying it's causing this massive problem, and that
he's drawing a line in the sand. And so he
he goes ahead and eats meat when she's gone. But see,
there's a saying that if you demand someone to change,
(27:54):
you're really demanding them to lie to you because they
are who they are. Right, So in any relationship, yes,
there's going to be compromised. But when the compromises do
what I say, there's a problem. I mean, this isn't
smoking or something you know, or drinking something detrimental. Inherently,
this is food that you're eating, your choice. So what
(28:16):
brings you joy? So any who, all I'm saying probably
a whole family needs to go to therapy. Cool betterhelp
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