October 17, 2024 • 26 mins
Wayne Resnick fills in for Bill while he is out on vacation. Menendez brothers seeking release after 35 years. Dragon Balls and AI lawsuits. Science 2 The Rescue! Heavy Petting
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
It is the Bill Handle Show. He is back from
his vacation on Monday. I will be with you until nine.
And yesterday there was a big event in front of
the Criminal Courts building in downtown Los Angeles involving the
case of Lyle and Eric Menendez, who killed their parents
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with a shotgun, reloaded shot some more, tried to cover
things up when on a shopping spree floated a theory
that their parents had been targeted by some kind of
outside nefarious mob thing something like that. Had a trial,
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the jury didn't convict them because there was evidence they
had both been horribly sexually abused by their father, thus
making their claim at that time that this was a
kind of self defense resonate with at least some of
the jurors. So in the second trial the judge did
not allow them to bring any of that up, and
they were convicted. All of their appeals failed, and here
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we are now with the case not over yet. At
the event yesterday was kfi's Michael Monks, Good morning, sir,
Good to talk with you tell us what the latest
step is and what happened yesterday in front of the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good morning, Wayne. What happened was a lot of relatives
of Lyle and air Mininndez from both sides of their family,
their mother's side and their father's side, have come out
to say publicly that they'd like to see their nephews,
their cousins released from prison after thirty five years. And
one of the key reasons is what you just noted
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was the fact that in their view, the sexual abuse
allegations that emerged in the mid nineties trials were not
taken seriously enough in the view of the family, and
that they were taken seriously enough, the sentencing would have
been different.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Now, before the event, there was speculation about who would
be there, whether or not Da Gascone would be there
when you arrived. Before it started, was there still any
speculation about exactly what was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, the public relations firm handling the release for I guess,
attorney Mark Garrigos, and the family had indicated which family
members were going to speak, but they also said, for example,
actress and comedian Rosie O'Donnell was going to be there,
and she did not come, so we didn't see her.
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There was no note from the official sources that attorney
excuse me, District Attorney George Gascone would be there, but
during the course of the press conference, the family departed
to meet with representatives from the DA's offer. It's the
Criminal Courts building right across the street from the Hall
of Justice, so a very convenient walk, and that is
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where apparently DA officials are going to be explaining the
resentencing process, what these legal routes look like, and to
talk a bit more about the case.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Are we to take from that that the DA has
decided to move forward with resentencing or are they Are
they doing everything they can to include the Menendez family,
of course they can't include mom and dad, but to
include them in the decision making process, and that they're
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actually going to take the time to explain how the
whole thing would work if they decide.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, they're certainly engaging with them, and I think it's
clear from some of the statements from the district attorney
that is at least sympathetic to the review process. So
going to let that play out, whatever that means, whatever
that looks like, so that's still ongoing. Of now, no
formal decision has been made. What was stated at the
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press conference yesterday by at least one family member and
the attorney representing the men in the Menindez Brothers, Mark Ergos,
is that they'd like to have those brothers home by Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh well, that's not gonna that's not gonna happen. Things
don't move that quickly. They were promoting a petition. I
believe that they want everyone to sign.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, they have launched a new website, Justice for Lyle
and Eric. These family members and these aren't distant family members.
I mean you have the sister of the boys. Excuse
me for saying the boys. That's how they were referred
to a hot during the press conference. I think they're
still boys in the memory of a lot of these
family members, even though they're in their fifties now. The
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Menindez brothers aunts, so siblings of their parents and cousins.
I mean, these are people who did know them and
knew the victims as well. So you know, these are
folks who say that enough time has passed and that
they've done the time for the crime that they committed,
and that the time was already too long because the
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crime was committed against them too.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All right, Michael Monks, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
My pleasure, Wayne, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
All right, we'll talk to you again soon, I hope. So.
I did watch a little of the thing yesterday, and
you know, it's very odd to come out and appeal
to the public when really there's one guy you got
to convince to give Lyle and Eric Menendez another shot
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at a resentencing, and that's George Gascon. And they mentioned
several of the family members who spoke talked about it's
not about politics, it's about justice, and I realized, I
know what this is is very clear what this is.
George Gascon is running for reelection. He is losing badly
to Nathan Hawkman. He is not Gascon is not going
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to be re elected given the poll numbers. There's never
been that kind of movement that would be necessary for
Gascon to win.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But he's still running.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And the family who support Lyle and Eric Menndez, they're
trying to send the message through public channels.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Please don't.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Not give our young relatives, they're not that young anymore,
a chance. Please don't refrain from helping them because you're
afraid it'll further hurt your chances at reelection.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Now, Gascon, to me, is not a principled man.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
If he were a principled man, and there are some
good arguments to have another sentencing hearing, which is simply
to present all the information to a judge, including new information,
and it doesn't mean necessarily they end up with a break.
There are good reasons to have another hearing. There's a
provision in the state penal Code that specifically talks about
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this kind of a situation, so it's not coming out
of nowhere. But George Gascon, if he were principled, what
he would do now is he would drop out of
the race since he's gonna lose anyway, and then pursue
a resentencing of the Menendez brothers, which will go however
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it goes according to the judge that would oversee the hearing,
so that we don't have all these family members getting
up there and pleading for this guy about the decision
that he's gonna make it. I thought it was super cringe,
to be perfectly honest with you, super cringe. You can
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be right about what you want and you can still
be going about it the wrong way. So I will
see how long it takes Gascon's office to publicly announce
if they're going to do anything or not.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Dragon balls are an appetizer at a Thai restaurant called
Coup de Taie get It, and a doctor I believe
she is a neurosurgeon went to eat there one night
and ordered the dragon ball's appetizer and told the server, Hey,
I don't really tolerate spicy foods.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Can you make them with less spice?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And now she says, they said, sure, we will, and
then brought them out, and she says they did not,
and claims that she burned her damage, they damaged her
vocal cords and her esophagus and even inside of her nose,
that they were impossibly hot, that they were so hot
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that she's suing the restaurant. She has a lot of
expectations about what they should have done, by the way.
For example, she says they should warn people specifically about
the chili peppers used in these dragon balls, which are
actually chicken balls with mint and lime and cilantro and
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green onion and yes chili, excuse me, and some rice powder.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Oh I think I ate one myself.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That's one thing she also says that whenever anybody orders
such a hot item, they should provide some kind of
a dairy product like Thai iced tea or other dairy
based product, so that if it gets too hot, you
can immediately take some milk or cream or ice cream
or yogurt or sour cream. She would have it, She
would have taken anything. And she says they asked for
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some kind of yogurt or other dairy because it was
so hot, and that they never got any. Now, this
is the interesting aspect of this crazy lawsuit is remember
she said, I don't like twospicy. Make them not spicy,
and they said, yes, we will, But someone from the
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restaurant said, that's not possible. There's no way to make
them any milder because the balls are pre made and
the chili is already inside the balls. You can't go
in there and somehow remove, you know, chopped up.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Chilies from this chicken ball.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And that when people say I would like to eat
your dragon balls, but I don't like spicy food, that
what they do at this restaurant is they say, why
don't you order something else? Then they also say, never
before has anybody who've eaten the dragon balls said that
they were physically injured and needed medical attention like the
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doctor here is so in any event, here's the current update.
The restaurant would like the case to go away, but
a judge has ruled that instead, this case will go
to trial next year. They think the trial will last
five to seven days, and she will try to make
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her case that they were legally defective in offerings such
a spicy dish at the restaurant and didn't take all
of these precautions that she thinks you should take if
you're going to serve spicy food. She wants over thirty
five thousand dollars in medical expenses and lost income and
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other damages.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Wayne, I don't know, hmm. I will tell you something interesting.
There is a place called Jetlata out here, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh yeah, I know in La Jazz, Yeah Jazz.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yes, she Jazz is the woman who owns it. Yeah,
and it's fantastic. But they do have part of the
menu that is so hot that certain things you have
to sign a waiver for.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
And the second thing that came to mind is if
I remember correctly, there is no dairy in Tay cooking.
I mean there's no reason for them to have dairy
on the premises.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, the only thing I can think of is don't
they put condensed milk in the Thai iced tea? Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Maybe that?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And maybe there might be some in the in the
rice dish, the dessert rice dish at the end that
people have with mangoes, the sweet rice, sticky rice with mangoes.
Maybe so they thought it's not it's not something. And
even condensed milk is much different than trying to get
some dairy that will pull the capsaicin.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean, I feel like if you're that sensitive, don't
go to a Thai restaurant or order just have pod
thaie or you know they.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Do have with hell fire dragon, uh in the name lava,
any of those things, maybe in the name stay away from.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna follow this case because I want to
if it really gets in front of a jury, I
want to know what they say. And there's a couple
of things from the world of science that I thought
was really interesting and they they're very different from each other,
although they both have to do with your body, with
your disgusting body. So the first thing, if you exercise
at all, you're probably interested in how to get the
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most out of the eyes that you do. So I
don't know all the idea to look it came into
the minds of these physiologists at the University of Milan,
but it came into their minds to look at this question,
if I walk for thirty minutes, is that better or
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worse than if I walk for five minutes six different times?
And they recruited people for this study, and they had
them do exactly that, walking on a treadmill or climbing
stairs for different lengths of time, anything from as short
as ten seconds to as much as four minutes. And
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while these people were doing it, they wore a mask
on their face to measure their oxygen intake, which is
a way of measuring your energy consumption. Energy consumption calories burned.
And this is what they found. The same amount of
this exercise burns more calories. If you break it up,
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you will burn more calories walking five minutes six different
times than thirty minutes all at once. And this is
because the human body is kind of like a car.
You know, when you accelerate in your car, you have
low miles per gallon unless you're electric obviously, and then
when you get up to a cruising speed, your miles
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per gallon go up. Ramping up takes a more energy
than maintaining. So if you walk for thirty minutes, you
have a little ramp up period and then you're done
ramping up, and now it's just steady state, steady calorie burn.
But if you break the up into six different five
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minute walks, and you're ramping up six different times, and
they say that you can get twenty to sixty percent
more energy consumption by doing multiple short episodes rather than
a single long episode. Now does that fit in with
our lives? You can say, hey, I'm gonna go walk
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for half an hour. I don't know if you can
six times a day say I'm gonna go walk. I
mean you could, now that I think about it. Why
couldn't you? So that's one thing that they have figured
out from science. And I always like to say the
journal where a study is published, because some journals are
top notch, and if the study is published in that journal,
you know it was a great study. And then some
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journalists are this is a good one. Proceedings of the
Royal Society B. Now here's another thing going on with science.
This is crazy to me, This is like a David
Cronenberg movie or something similar. There are many companies researchers
working on growing body parts in the lab, heart valves, lungs,
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other stuff, taking human cells turning them into body tissues.
There are a couple of things out there already that
they grow from human cells. There's knee cartilage already that
depending if you might get lab grown knee cartilage in
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your knee replacement. And there's skin graphs that are grown
in a lab and used already. But if you're talking
about anything beyond that, it's much more complicated. And so
to get to something like a heart valve or a
lung or in this case, a blood vessel, it's kind
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of been slow going. But there's one company that is
the furthest along. They're called Huma Site and they're in
North Carolina. They're biotech company. They are growing blood vessels
in the lab. So this would obviously help people who
have big traumatic injuries.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Also, there are people on.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Dialysis, and when you have dialysis, they use catheters to
hook you up to that machine. I hope I'm not
speaking out of school here when I say our own
beloved Neil Sevadra has some experience with dialysis.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I believe, indeed, I have polycystic reasons. It's a genetic
and out of the seven kids, my father had it,
and out of the seven kids and my family, five
of us have it. And I have cut nephews and
nieces that have it as well. So yeah, I was
on dialysis for only ten months because I have a
lovely live donor named Julie who donated her kidney. But
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my sister was on dialysis for thirteen years. I think
my dad was on it for fourteen years. I've got
a younger brother still on dialysis, going on his maybe
eighth year.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So yeah, I know a lot about it.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
All about the use of the catheters, and it can
ruin your veins. Oh you can help with that as well.
And then also you know how people who have peripheral
what is it neuropathy, the nerd the circulation the vessels
narrow in your body and you get less circulation, usually
to your feet, and then you have problems. All of
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these things can be helped by new blood vessels. But
you can't just keep ripping blood vessels out of your
own body. So this company's growing them in the lab
and they start with a plastic scaffolding and then they
put some material on it, and over time, the material
grows into a tube, and they put this tube in
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your body. And then what happens. And this is the
part that's the most fascinating to me. Because we can
three D print things, we can grow structures.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Fairly easily. I can't. When I say we, I don't
mean me.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We can grow structures fairly easily, but you have to
make it a blood vessel.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It can't just be a tube.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
But they can make the tube and then they put
it in and then what happens is cells move into
this tube. And one of the doctors from this company,
he said, it's like we put a tube in you.
It's like an empty apartment building. And then the cells
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from your body move in. They detect the collagen and
the proteins that we've put in this tube, and these
cells say, oh, look at me, I'm in a blood vessel.
I'm going to become a blood vessel cell. And that's
what happens. And then after a certain amount of time,
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I think it's sixteen weeks it takes.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You've grown your own layer.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Of actual honest to god, human living blood, blood vessel
cells in your body. That's pretty cool. All right, let's
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get right into this. I fingers tree frogs. It's a
species of tiny little frogs. They're very small, and they
live in Taiwan, and they live on a couple of
islands in Japan. And even though they aren't around here
right now, they are still fascinating for many reasons. But
the one I want to share with you is this.
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So you have a little frog, and the frog lays
their eggs, and they lay their eggs in these tiny
little puddles, I mean tiny, so tiny that you would
not and I would not consider it a puddle, just
a little tiny thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Now the tadpole hatches and they live for a while
in these tiny little puddles. When you live in a
tiny puddle, there's not a lot of water, obviously, and
that means if there's any ammonia introduced into the water,
it can be very toxic, because there's not I mean,
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if you have this much ammonia and you put it
in the Atlantic Ocean, it doesn't matter. But the same
amount of ammonia in a little tadpole's puddle could be death.
And where does ammonia come from, amongst other places, and
most likely in this case, from peeing and pooping. Yet
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these little tadpoles grow up in these tiny little puddles
and they don't have a problem with ammonia. So some
researchers at Nagoya University and wanted to figure out how
the heck do they do it? Well, they found out
ladies and gentlemen self induced constipation, They don't. They don't
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poop for weeks. They keep the poop inside in a
pouch in their intestines. And when they start to change
and grow the legs and become real frogs, then they
can move around anywhere.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And then they they.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Take out the trash, so to speak. And that's pretty amazing.
I couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. You couldn't
hold it in for weeks at a time. So how
about that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's really weird. I think now this is even weirder.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You know, you know the talk about hey, we're gonna
get the DNA from a wooly mammoth, and then we're
gonna clone a wooly mammoth and then we will bring
the wooly mammoth back. There is at least one company
who who is actively working on bringing back the wooly mammoth.
They're also bringing back they want to the Tasmanian tiger
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and the dodo bird, three extinct species.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They want to bring them back. It's called de extinction.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
This company is called Colossal Biosciences. They're in Texas and
they say they can get some DNA. Here's the thing, though,
they're not gonna bring back really a wooly mammoth.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What they're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And here's why, because there's not enough DNA around from
wooly mammoths anymore that you could recreate the genome of
a whole wooly mammoth. But you can get certain that
you can get, for example, if you can get the
gene that gives the wooly mammoth their shaggy hair, and
if you can get the gene that gives the wooly
mammoth the curved tusks, and if you can get the
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gene that gives the wooly mammoth the shape of its head,
you can put it into a similar species that's still alive,
like Asian elephants. And what you're kind of making is
a hybrid. It's mostly an elephant, but you could maybe
get it to look like a wooly mammoth, which is
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a bit of a of a of a I don't want.
It's not a fraud, but it's a it's a letdown.
It's a bit of a disappointment when the headline is
We're gonna clone the wooly mammoth, and then the subheadline
as well, not really, We're gonna make a hybrid animal
that has certain features of a wooly mammoth, that might
look like a wooly mammoth, but really it's mostly an elephant.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But they are doing that. Is that even the smart idea?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And if you could whether you could bring the whole
animal back, which I don't think ever will happen, or
whether you can make these hybrid animals that bring back
a lot of the features of an extinct species.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Do we want that?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
There's a lot of stuff that could go wrong, And
I'm not talking about Jurassic Park going wrong, but for example,
the world has had no wooly mammoths for thousands and
thousands of years. If suddenly there's a wooly mammoth or
a half a wooly mammoth. Is the planet able to
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even deal with that? Now it got used to no
wooly mammoth, thank you very much, and now here's a
partial wooly mammoth. We don't know how the planet's going
to react. Also, you hear the stories about elephants killing people.
You know that in Kenya, Just in Kenya in the
in about a seven year period, two hundred people were
killed by elephants. You bring back a half elephant, half
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wooly mammoth, and that death told me go way up.
And then there's one other problem. How do you know
they're going to stay where you put them? You know,
the gray wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park back
in the in the mid nineties. They said, well, this
is where they used to live, and we can reintroduce them.
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You know, we've saved the population. Here they go and
the next and now they're all over the place. They
didn't stay where they were supposed to stay. They're going
where they're not supposed to go because animals don't listen.
So I'm not sure this is the greatest idea, but
it's certainly an interesting science experiment. Maybe they could just
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try to make an Asian elephant that just has the hair,
and that's it and leave the rest alone. KFI AM
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It is the Bill Handle Show. He is back from
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And yesterday there was a big event in front of
the Criminal Courts building in downtown Los Angeles involving the
case of Lyle and Eric Menendez, who killed their parents
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with a shotgun, reloaded shot some more, tried to cover
things up when on a shopping spree floated a theory
that their parents had been targeted by some kind of
outside nefarious mob thing something like that. Had a trial,
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the jury didn't convict them because there was evidence they
had both been horribly sexually abused by their father, thus
making their claim at that time that this was a
kind of self defense resonate with at least some of
the jurors. So in the second trial the judge did
not allow them to bring any of that up, and
they were convicted. All of their appeals failed, and here
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we are now with the case not over yet. At
the event yesterday was kfi's Michael Monks, Good morning, sir,
Good to talk with you tell us what the latest
step is and what happened yesterday in front of the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good morning, Wayne. What happened was a lot of relatives
of Lyle and air Mininndez from both sides of their family,
their mother's side and their father's side, have come out
to say publicly that they'd like to see their nephews,
their cousins released from prison after thirty five years. And
one of the key reasons is what you just noted
(01:48):
was the fact that in their view, the sexual abuse
allegations that emerged in the mid nineties trials were not
taken seriously enough in the view of the family, and
that they were taken seriously enough, the sentencing would have
been different.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Now, before the event, there was speculation about who would
be there, whether or not Da Gascone would be there
when you arrived. Before it started, was there still any
speculation about exactly what was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, the public relations firm handling the release for I guess,
attorney Mark Garrigos, and the family had indicated which family
members were going to speak, but they also said, for example,
actress and comedian Rosie O'Donnell was going to be there,
and she did not come, so we didn't see her.
(02:43):
There was no note from the official sources that attorney
excuse me, District Attorney George Gascone would be there, but
during the course of the press conference, the family departed
to meet with representatives from the DA's offer. It's the
Criminal Courts building right across the street from the Hall
of Justice, so a very convenient walk, and that is
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where apparently DA officials are going to be explaining the
resentencing process, what these legal routes look like, and to
talk a bit more about the case.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Are we to take from that that the DA has
decided to move forward with resentencing or are they Are
they doing everything they can to include the Menendez family,
of course they can't include mom and dad, but to
include them in the decision making process, and that they're
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actually going to take the time to explain how the
whole thing would work if they decide.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, they're certainly engaging with them, and I think it's
clear from some of the statements from the district attorney
that is at least sympathetic to the review process. So
going to let that play out, whatever that means, whatever
that looks like, so that's still ongoing. Of now, no
formal decision has been made. What was stated at the
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press conference yesterday by at least one family member and
the attorney representing the men in the Menindez Brothers, Mark Ergos,
is that they'd like to have those brothers home by Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh well, that's not gonna that's not gonna happen. Things
don't move that quickly. They were promoting a petition. I
believe that they want everyone to sign.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, they have launched a new website, Justice for Lyle
and Eric. These family members and these aren't distant family members.
I mean you have the sister of the boys. Excuse
me for saying the boys. That's how they were referred
to a hot during the press conference. I think they're
still boys in the memory of a lot of these
family members, even though they're in their fifties now. The
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Menindez brothers aunts, so siblings of their parents and cousins.
I mean, these are people who did know them and
knew the victims as well. So you know, these are
folks who say that enough time has passed and that
they've done the time for the crime that they committed,
and that the time was already too long because the
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crime was committed against them too.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
All right, Michael Monks, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
My pleasure, Wayne, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
All right, we'll talk to you again soon, I hope. So.
I did watch a little of the thing yesterday, and
you know, it's very odd to come out and appeal
to the public when really there's one guy you got
to convince to give Lyle and Eric Menendez another shot
(05:41):
at a resentencing, and that's George Gascon. And they mentioned
several of the family members who spoke talked about it's
not about politics, it's about justice, and I realized, I
know what this is is very clear what this is.
George Gascon is running for reelection. He is losing badly
to Nathan Hawkman. He is not Gascon is not going
(06:02):
to be re elected given the poll numbers. There's never
been that kind of movement that would be necessary for
Gascon to win.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But he's still running.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And the family who support Lyle and Eric Menndez, they're
trying to send the message through public channels.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Please don't.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Not give our young relatives, they're not that young anymore,
a chance. Please don't refrain from helping them because you're
afraid it'll further hurt your chances at reelection.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Now, Gascon, to me, is not a principled man.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
If he were a principled man, and there are some
good arguments to have another sentencing hearing, which is simply
to present all the information to a judge, including new information,
and it doesn't mean necessarily they end up with a break.
There are good reasons to have another hearing. There's a
provision in the state penal Code that specifically talks about
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this kind of a situation, so it's not coming out
of nowhere. But George Gascon, if he were principled, what
he would do now is he would drop out of
the race since he's gonna lose anyway, and then pursue
a resentencing of the Menendez brothers, which will go however
(07:31):
it goes according to the judge that would oversee the hearing,
so that we don't have all these family members getting
up there and pleading for this guy about the decision
that he's gonna make it. I thought it was super cringe,
to be perfectly honest with you, super cringe. You can
(07:52):
be right about what you want and you can still
be going about it the wrong way. So I will
see how long it takes Gascon's office to publicly announce
if they're going to do anything or not.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Dragon balls are an appetizer at a Thai restaurant called
Coup de Taie get It, and a doctor I believe
she is a neurosurgeon went to eat there one night
and ordered the dragon ball's appetizer and told the server, Hey,
I don't really tolerate spicy foods.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Can you make them with less spice?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And now she says, they said, sure, we will, and
then brought them out, and she says they did not,
and claims that she burned her damage, they damaged her
vocal cords and her esophagus and even inside of her nose,
that they were impossibly hot, that they were so hot
(08:53):
that she's suing the restaurant. She has a lot of
expectations about what they should have done, by the way.
For example, she says they should warn people specifically about
the chili peppers used in these dragon balls, which are
actually chicken balls with mint and lime and cilantro and
(09:16):
green onion and yes chili, excuse me, and some rice powder.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Oh I think I ate one myself.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That's one thing she also says that whenever anybody orders
such a hot item, they should provide some kind of
a dairy product like Thai iced tea or other dairy
based product, so that if it gets too hot, you
can immediately take some milk or cream or ice cream
or yogurt or sour cream. She would have it, She
would have taken anything. And she says they asked for
(09:43):
some kind of yogurt or other dairy because it was
so hot, and that they never got any. Now, this
is the interesting aspect of this crazy lawsuit is remember
she said, I don't like twospicy. Make them not spicy,
and they said, yes, we will, But someone from the
(10:04):
restaurant said, that's not possible. There's no way to make
them any milder because the balls are pre made and
the chili is already inside the balls. You can't go
in there and somehow remove, you know, chopped up.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Chilies from this chicken ball.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And that when people say I would like to eat
your dragon balls, but I don't like spicy food, that
what they do at this restaurant is they say, why
don't you order something else? Then they also say, never
before has anybody who've eaten the dragon balls said that
they were physically injured and needed medical attention like the
(10:44):
doctor here is so in any event, here's the current update.
The restaurant would like the case to go away, but
a judge has ruled that instead, this case will go
to trial next year. They think the trial will last
five to seven days, and she will try to make
(11:04):
her case that they were legally defective in offerings such
a spicy dish at the restaurant and didn't take all
of these precautions that she thinks you should take if
you're going to serve spicy food. She wants over thirty
five thousand dollars in medical expenses and lost income and
(11:25):
other damages.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Wayne, I don't know, hmm. I will tell you something interesting.
There is a place called Jetlata out here, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh yeah, I know in La Jazz, Yeah Jazz.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yes, she Jazz is the woman who owns it. Yeah,
and it's fantastic. But they do have part of the
menu that is so hot that certain things you have
to sign a waiver for.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
And the second thing that came to mind is if
I remember correctly, there is no dairy in Tay cooking.
I mean there's no reason for them to have dairy
on the premises.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, the only thing I can think of is don't
they put condensed milk in the Thai iced tea? Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Maybe that?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And maybe there might be some in the in the
rice dish, the dessert rice dish at the end that
people have with mangoes, the sweet rice, sticky rice with mangoes.
Maybe so they thought it's not it's not something. And
even condensed milk is much different than trying to get
some dairy that will pull the capsaicin.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean, I feel like if you're that sensitive, don't
go to a Thai restaurant or order just have pod
thaie or you know they.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Do have with hell fire dragon, uh in the name lava,
any of those things, maybe in the name stay away from.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna follow this case because I want to
if it really gets in front of a jury, I
want to know what they say. And there's a couple
of things from the world of science that I thought
was really interesting and they they're very different from each other,
although they both have to do with your body, with
your disgusting body. So the first thing, if you exercise
at all, you're probably interested in how to get the
(13:10):
most out of the eyes that you do. So I
don't know all the idea to look it came into
the minds of these physiologists at the University of Milan,
but it came into their minds to look at this question,
if I walk for thirty minutes, is that better or
(13:34):
worse than if I walk for five minutes six different times?
And they recruited people for this study, and they had
them do exactly that, walking on a treadmill or climbing
stairs for different lengths of time, anything from as short
as ten seconds to as much as four minutes. And
(13:54):
while these people were doing it, they wore a mask
on their face to measure their oxygen intake, which is
a way of measuring your energy consumption. Energy consumption calories burned.
And this is what they found. The same amount of
this exercise burns more calories. If you break it up,
(14:18):
you will burn more calories walking five minutes six different
times than thirty minutes all at once. And this is
because the human body is kind of like a car.
You know, when you accelerate in your car, you have
low miles per gallon unless you're electric obviously, and then
when you get up to a cruising speed, your miles
(14:41):
per gallon go up. Ramping up takes a more energy
than maintaining. So if you walk for thirty minutes, you
have a little ramp up period and then you're done
ramping up, and now it's just steady state, steady calorie burn.
But if you break the up into six different five
(15:01):
minute walks, and you're ramping up six different times, and
they say that you can get twenty to sixty percent
more energy consumption by doing multiple short episodes rather than
a single long episode. Now does that fit in with
our lives? You can say, hey, I'm gonna go walk
(15:23):
for half an hour. I don't know if you can
six times a day say I'm gonna go walk. I
mean you could, now that I think about it. Why
couldn't you? So that's one thing that they have figured
out from science. And I always like to say the
journal where a study is published, because some journals are
top notch, and if the study is published in that journal,
you know it was a great study. And then some
(15:44):
journalists are this is a good one. Proceedings of the
Royal Society B. Now here's another thing going on with science.
This is crazy to me, This is like a David
Cronenberg movie or something similar. There are many companies researchers
working on growing body parts in the lab, heart valves, lungs,
(16:09):
other stuff, taking human cells turning them into body tissues.
There are a couple of things out there already that
they grow from human cells. There's knee cartilage already that
depending if you might get lab grown knee cartilage in
(16:30):
your knee replacement. And there's skin graphs that are grown
in a lab and used already. But if you're talking
about anything beyond that, it's much more complicated. And so
to get to something like a heart valve or a
lung or in this case, a blood vessel, it's kind
(16:50):
of been slow going. But there's one company that is
the furthest along. They're called Huma Site and they're in
North Carolina. They're biotech company. They are growing blood vessels
in the lab. So this would obviously help people who
have big traumatic injuries.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Also, there are people on.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Dialysis, and when you have dialysis, they use catheters to
hook you up to that machine. I hope I'm not
speaking out of school here when I say our own
beloved Neil Sevadra has some experience with dialysis.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I believe, indeed, I have polycystic reasons. It's a genetic
and out of the seven kids, my father had it,
and out of the seven kids and my family, five
of us have it. And I have cut nephews and
nieces that have it as well. So yeah, I was
on dialysis for only ten months because I have a
lovely live donor named Julie who donated her kidney. But
(17:55):
my sister was on dialysis for thirteen years. I think
my dad was on it for fourteen years. I've got
a younger brother still on dialysis, going on his maybe
eighth year.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So yeah, I know a lot about it.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
All about the use of the catheters, and it can
ruin your veins. Oh you can help with that as well.
And then also you know how people who have peripheral
what is it neuropathy, the nerd the circulation the vessels
narrow in your body and you get less circulation, usually
to your feet, and then you have problems. All of
(18:32):
these things can be helped by new blood vessels. But
you can't just keep ripping blood vessels out of your
own body. So this company's growing them in the lab
and they start with a plastic scaffolding and then they
put some material on it, and over time, the material
grows into a tube, and they put this tube in
(18:57):
your body. And then what happens. And this is the
part that's the most fascinating to me. Because we can
three D print things, we can grow structures.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Fairly easily. I can't. When I say we, I don't
mean me.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We can grow structures fairly easily, but you have to
make it a blood vessel.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It can't just be a tube.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
But they can make the tube and then they put
it in and then what happens is cells move into
this tube. And one of the doctors from this company,
he said, it's like we put a tube in you.
It's like an empty apartment building. And then the cells
(19:38):
from your body move in. They detect the collagen and
the proteins that we've put in this tube, and these
cells say, oh, look at me, I'm in a blood vessel.
I'm going to become a blood vessel cell. And that's
what happens. And then after a certain amount of time,
(19:59):
I think it's sixteen weeks it takes.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You've grown your own layer.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Of actual honest to god, human living blood, blood vessel
cells in your body. That's pretty cool. All right, let's
(20:28):
get right into this. I fingers tree frogs. It's a
species of tiny little frogs. They're very small, and they
live in Taiwan, and they live on a couple of
islands in Japan. And even though they aren't around here
right now, they are still fascinating for many reasons. But
the one I want to share with you is this.
(20:49):
So you have a little frog, and the frog lays
their eggs, and they lay their eggs in these tiny
little puddles, I mean tiny, so tiny that you would
not and I would not consider it a puddle, just
a little tiny thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Now the tadpole hatches and they live for a while
in these tiny little puddles. When you live in a
tiny puddle, there's not a lot of water, obviously, and
that means if there's any ammonia introduced into the water,
it can be very toxic, because there's not I mean,
(21:28):
if you have this much ammonia and you put it
in the Atlantic Ocean, it doesn't matter. But the same
amount of ammonia in a little tadpole's puddle could be death.
And where does ammonia come from, amongst other places, and
most likely in this case, from peeing and pooping. Yet
(21:50):
these little tadpoles grow up in these tiny little puddles
and they don't have a problem with ammonia. So some
researchers at Nagoya University and wanted to figure out how
the heck do they do it? Well, they found out
ladies and gentlemen self induced constipation, They don't. They don't
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poop for weeks. They keep the poop inside in a
pouch in their intestines. And when they start to change
and grow the legs and become real frogs, then they
can move around anywhere.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And then they they.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Take out the trash, so to speak. And that's pretty amazing.
I couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. You couldn't
hold it in for weeks at a time. So how
about that.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's really weird. I think now this is even weirder.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You know, you know the talk about hey, we're gonna
get the DNA from a wooly mammoth, and then we're
gonna clone a wooly mammoth and then we will bring
the wooly mammoth back. There is at least one company
who who is actively working on bringing back the wooly mammoth.
They're also bringing back they want to the Tasmanian tiger
(23:10):
and the dodo bird, three extinct species.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They want to bring them back. It's called de extinction.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
This company is called Colossal Biosciences. They're in Texas and
they say they can get some DNA. Here's the thing, though,
they're not gonna bring back really a wooly mammoth.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What they're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And here's why, because there's not enough DNA around from
wooly mammoths anymore that you could recreate the genome of
a whole wooly mammoth. But you can get certain that
you can get, for example, if you can get the
gene that gives the wooly mammoth their shaggy hair, and
if you can get the gene that gives the wooly
mammoth the curved tusks, and if you can get the
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gene that gives the wooly mammoth the shape of its head,
you can put it into a similar species that's still alive,
like Asian elephants. And what you're kind of making is
a hybrid. It's mostly an elephant, but you could maybe
get it to look like a wooly mammoth, which is
(24:19):
a bit of a of a of a I don't want.
It's not a fraud, but it's a it's a letdown.
It's a bit of a disappointment when the headline is
We're gonna clone the wooly mammoth, and then the subheadline
as well, not really, We're gonna make a hybrid animal
that has certain features of a wooly mammoth, that might
look like a wooly mammoth, but really it's mostly an elephant.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But they are doing that. Is that even the smart idea?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And if you could whether you could bring the whole
animal back, which I don't think ever will happen, or
whether you can make these hybrid animals that bring back
a lot of the features of an extinct species.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Do we want that?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
There's a lot of stuff that could go wrong, And
I'm not talking about Jurassic Park going wrong, but for example,
the world has had no wooly mammoths for thousands and
thousands of years. If suddenly there's a wooly mammoth or
a half a wooly mammoth. Is the planet able to
(25:22):
even deal with that? Now it got used to no
wooly mammoth, thank you very much, and now here's a
partial wooly mammoth. We don't know how the planet's going
to react. Also, you hear the stories about elephants killing people.
You know that in Kenya, Just in Kenya in the
in about a seven year period, two hundred people were
killed by elephants. You bring back a half elephant, half
(25:46):
wooly mammoth, and that death told me go way up.
And then there's one other problem. How do you know
they're going to stay where you put them? You know,
the gray wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park back
in the in the mid nineties. They said, well, this
is where they used to live, and we can reintroduce them.
(26:08):
You know, we've saved the population. Here they go and
the next and now they're all over the place. They
didn't stay where they were supposed to stay. They're going
where they're not supposed to go because animals don't listen.
So I'm not sure this is the greatest idea, but
it's certainly an interesting science experiment. Maybe they could just
(26:29):
try to make an Asian elephant that just has the hair,
and that's it and leave the rest alone. KFI AM
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