November 5, 2024 • 26 mins
Authorities prepare for Election Day. Some states refuse to let justice department monitors into polling places. Facebook doesn’t want attention right nowl. Fed up with U.S politics… some Californians plan to move abroad.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Kf I AM six forty Bill Handle.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Here is a Tuesday morning, November fifth, And of course,
the big, big story is today, the entire day.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It is the election. And so are we going to
know who has won the presidency?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Not really.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We'll probably have a good idea as to the propositions.
Local measures will probably have a pretty good idea, and
unless it is a complete blowout, we really won't know.
And even if there is a blowout, there'll be so
many lawsuits filed, there will so many be recounts being instituted,
that we're not going to know. Well, I think at
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best we're going to probably know by this weekend. In
any case, let's talk about the interference.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Unrest which you're going to see today.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Law enforcement, not only here in California but across the
country are prepared right now for threats against election workers,
violence at polling places, voter intimidation, certainly, skepticism from Republicans
about the integrity to voting process. And that's been my
complaint is so many Americans simply don't believe we have
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a free election anymore. And it doesn't matter how careful
the security is, and it doesn't matter how well tuned
and how fair the authorities are making this. They're becoming
more and more security these elections, and they're becoming more
and more questioned, to the point where today there are
a huge number of Americans do believe that the election
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is rigged by definition if Trump doesn't win it. And unfortunately,
and this is not the vast majority, I mean a
lot of people simply believe that. But how many people
are willing to do a January sixth and how many
people are willing to actually intimidate and threaten poll workers?
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Way too many. The US Attorney's Office is for months
been working with voting officials, police sheriff's departments to simply
secure polling places and locations where ballots are counted. Have
beefed up security, bomb and fire firearms, stiffing dogs, metal detectors,
panic buttons, even rooftop snipers to protect poll workers.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And this all started in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We've never had this issue before the stop and steal
protests across the country which culminated in January sixth, where
of course you had those attacking the capital to undo
the election and to peaceably, as Trump said, ask Mike
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Pence to not certify. You heard chance of hang Mike Pence,
Hang Mike Pence. Police officers being completely got attacked.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I mean it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And how many people out there still think it was
a peaceful demonstration. Way too many. That's how crazy this
has all become. So the story is security. The story
is the validity of the count and here is how
secure it's going to be. There.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Not only will be.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Ballots being counted by hand after the machine counting and recounted,
there will be there'll be people that are.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Watching there.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
On both sides, both Republicans and Democrats, and federal officials
and local officials watching both the ballots being delivered, the counting,
the voting booths. There has never been security like this
ever to secure a fair election. And every single election
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official out there across the country, Conservative States, Republican election officials,
everyone have said that we have a secure election coming up,
and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's even main
stream politicians. The Speaker of the House, his position is
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the election was still invalid. Joe Biden lost the election,
and he has not confirmed that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He will verify the vote.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
He said that he has not said, of course the
House is going to verify because part of the process.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'll explain it later on how it actually works.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's kind of an interesting process, the electoral college and
how a president is declared the winner.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
He has said he doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
If he is going to certify the vote. If Kamala harswings.
That's how crazy it has become. It is insane. It
used to be these people would be this kind of thinking,
would be guys on the street corner with a bullhorn
and you would ignore them. There crazy. Now you have
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the Speaker of the House of Representative with his bullthorn
bullhorn up on the speaker's podium in the House. Can
you tell how depressed I am about this? Well, what's
going to be over today? Then I'll go into my
normal life as crap. It's just that life is particularly
crap today. This is when my cynicism actually has some validity.
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I think, all right, there is other news out there.
The striking workers at Boeing. There not a strike.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
They've agreed to the deal, and the rest of it
really is.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Election news, and some of it's either good or bad.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No one has any idea.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And I'm not talking about who wins. I'm just talking
about what's going on. For example, let me give you
an one example of what's going on. You've got some
Republican led states that are saying they will block, try
to or are blocking the Justice Department's election monitors from
going inside polling places on election day. The US Department
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of Justice has people to go in and monitor the
polling places, not so much for the count, but to
ensure the federal law has followed. And you've got state
saying we don't want the FEDS in at all.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is that because the FEDS are part of this conspiracy
to steal the election?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't know. I can't think of any other reason.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Officials in Flora, in Texas have said they're not going
to allow FED monitors into the polling sites period. Missouri
filed a lawsuit wanting to block federal officials from observing
inside polling places. Texas same thing, trying to bar permanently
bar federal monitoring of elections in the state. And here's
how crazy this has actually become. The Justice Department last
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week announced that it's deploying election monitors in eighty six
jurisdictions across twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
States on election day. By the way, they've been doing
this for sixty years.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Just to let you know, at this point both sides,
Democrats and Republicans, are bracing for the legal challenges of
the vote tallies.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We know that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
There is no question that the lawsuits the Recouncil will
be forced.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
The Justice departments monitoring efforts, which by the way, has
been in place, as I said, for fifty or sixty
years under both Democratic and Republican administrations, is.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
There to ensure that the Federal.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Voting Rights Act is being upheld. Who are these monitors
from the Department of Justice. They're lawyers who work for
the DOJ Civil Rights Division, attorneys across the country. They're
not law enforcement, they're not federal agents at all. It's
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all about simply ensuring compliance with federal voting rights laws.
And this is the Voting Rights Act, for example, prohibits
intimidation threats against those who are casting ballots or counting votes.
Americans with Disabilities Act. What are they doing there? And
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in ensuring that the ADA is being followed well. Ramps
that are going up to the polling places, access to
the polling booths.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
For example, people in wheelchairs are too low to.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Reach up there and vote, So there have to be
a certain number of the voting booths have to be lowered,
making sure that minorities aren't intimidated.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Which they had a habit of which.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Unfortunately before the Voting Rights Act was passed into law,
particularly in the Southern States, when blacks, they weren't prohibited
from voting, but the authorities did everything they.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Could to make sure that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Voting was well, let's just say, make it difficult for
black people.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's why we have the amendment, the poll tax amendment.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That certain states actually forced a poll tax you had
to pay to vote, which was used mainly to discriminate
against blacks because they were the poorest of the poor,
certainly in the South. So the Feds are there simply
to enforce the Voting Rights Act, disabilities, non discrimination, physical
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aspects of the voting place, no intimidation, no one standing
within one hundred feet, and promoting politics. It has nothing
to do with account It has nothing to do with
how many votes are in place. It has nothing to
do with fraudulent votes. It has nothing to do with
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poll workers somehow putting in changing the vote tally, or
people going into hacking the machines and making sure that
their candidate gets all the votes and stealing votes from.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
The other side.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It has to do with enforcing the federal Voting Rights Act,
and you have Southern states saying we want no issue
with that. We do not want any issue with that.
We do in the sense that we don't want them.
There I misspoke for a minute there.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It is.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Just, I think, just an example of where we've come
in terms of the vote.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And the scary part about all of this.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Since the twenty twenty election, state legislators have made sure
in many cases that election officials will have enormous power
to demand recounts, to not certify.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Although keep in mind, at this point you've.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Got election officials themselves, secretaries of state election officials all
even Republican districts, saying we're going to have the most
secure elections in the history of this country.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Doesn't matter. It's rigged even to.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The point where states are saying that the Feds can't
come in to uphold the Voting Rights Act, where people
in wheelchairs have to have as good an access to voting.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That's the problem. Yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Just the start of the crazy state that's going on. Okay,
on to Facebook now, I want to move your attention
over to Facebook and what's going on. So after the
twenty sixteen elections, Facebook was blamed by critics Meta, the
parent company, for undermining American democracy. Why because the apps
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algorithm Newsfeed pushed hyperpartisan content, fake news, actually outright Russian
disinformation to huge numbers of people. And by the way,
first the company said, no, none of that is true.
And after Donald Trump won the election in twenty sixteen,
Mark Zuckerberg said, you know, it was pretty crazy to
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think that fake news on Facebook had played a role
at all, which ten months later he took that back
and said, Okay, we looked at it and that data
did not contradict what the authority said that Facebook did
in fact influence we're talking about the disinformation on Facebook.
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And so the company launched a bunch of new initiatives.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
One of them was this kind of war room where employees.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Across all these different departments came together in front of
this huge bank of computers to monitor Facebook for misinformation, disinformation,
fake news, threats of violence, reporters were invited in and
it turned out that it really didn't do much because.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Why well.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Journalists And this is an article out of the Atlantic
found that political advertisements, highly deceptive ones, still run amuck
on Facebook, election fraud conspiracy theories still run amuck, and Facebook,
which did have full time employees working on election integrity,
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has a lot fewer. For example, Zuckerberg is no longer
having weekly meetings with people in charge of that war room.
So what is going on with Facebook? Well, they're letting
on a whole bunch of information, not that they want
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to disinformation. Looks like they are not investing as much
money and controls into what's going on. And there is
a whole First Amendment argue argument. Well, Elon Musk is
at the top of that hierarchy in that not only
does he believe that any kind of disinformation, any kind
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of information at all, should be available on social platforms,
he is aggressively advocating that the well, let's just say
that it's questionable as to how the election is going
to run. Musk has gone crazy, There's no question about it.
It is a situation where well, the only thing that
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I can tell you is QAnon, which was completely crazy
in the twenty twenty election, has lost a lot of
its influence. You don't hear much about q and On anymore,
maybe from Marjorie Taylor Green. And here's why, because there
were enough attacks on q andon. QAnon was so crazy
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that it lost its whatever small legitimacy it had, even
among those people that are into conspiracies.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was two nuts.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You know, you don't have too many people left that
are saying that the Democrats did in fact have a
pedophile ring in Chicago under a pizza parlor where Hillary
Clinton was involved in this Democratic plan to rape little
boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Okay, may be not anymore, So that's lost it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
How about the difference information though the election is rigged,
that there are programs out there that are being used
that have been hacked into the election machines, by the way,
that one cost reporting That costs Fox over three quarters
of a billion dollars in its settlement with the Minion,
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which is the company that makes those machines. Giuliani got
hit big time with arguing about the fake election workers,
argument that they were part of a plot to steal
the election.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So what's happening is it's more widespread now.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
The Russians have jumped in, and not particularly because they
like Kamala Harris more than Donald Trump, although they do
like Donald Trump more, but it's more to so just
our belief in our election system, our disbelief in the
election system to make sure Americans stay fighting each other,
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disarray in our very communications level, in our very way
we deal with other Americans.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Russians love that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Also, you do have conspiracy theorists, and the big argument is,
and we're hearing that over and over again, you don't
even have to go vote. You don't even have to
go vote. If Kamala Harris wins, it's rigged even without
any votes. And if Donald Trump wins, it's still rigged.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But what he should have.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Done is won in a lot landslide, like he has
argued over and over again that in twenty twenty he
won by a landslide, even though Joe Biden won the
popular vote by seven million.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But it doesn't matter. All of that is fake. That's
what's going on. And that's the.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Part that these major social media platforms have to deal with.
Where does the First Amendment? Can people say that, well,
it's America? Can it be stopped. Can't facts? Is there
such thing as fact checking?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah? We try, We don't know how far does it go.
We have no idea.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
For example, you know X number of votes were cast,
what if it's just not true?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Is that fact checked?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And then you have AI that's being involved in all
of this, what do you do with that? That's why
we're at the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Of dealing with AI.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
As we know, dealing with security at the ballot box
and the counting centers, which has ramped up to the
point where they have snipers.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
On the roof of these counting centers.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They have double gates, bulletproof glass, dogs, explosive you know,
not the dogs that explode, the dogs that smell explosives.
I always thought explosive dogs were ones that just actually
blew up. I was wrong on that. I try to
keep up, but not always coming out something that I'm
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thinking of doing. I know, I'm a little being a
little depressed about the election today.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And it's not even the win. It's the fact that
it's rigged.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That we don't trust our election and so many people don't.
It's all fake. We don't have free elections anymore. That's
what pisses me off, and I've said that over and
over again. I'll stop by the end of the day.
I guarantee you tomorrow I'll be doing something else that'll
depress the hell out of you, hopefully. So people are
fed up with politics, how unusual, some Californians plan to
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move abroad, including me.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I've been doing this show now over thirty one years.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
In the morning, I mean, let me tell you, we've
all gotten together, and you look like crap, I might add, So.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm doing the.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Story about people fed up with you as politics, and
some Californians plan to move abroad. And that has been
going on for a while because in many cases, people
are more and more unhappy with what's going on in
this state and the country, and of course this political
cycle has just ramped that up to where people are
truly concerned.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
And they just want to get out.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Sometimes it's financial because there are foreign place particularly in Mexico.
You know, Mexico has communities of fifty thousand Americans where
it's Little America and you can live on two thousand
dollars a month very nicely.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Try that in southern California.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So a lot of people decide they're going to move out,
and there are websites out there that help people do
exactly that. So there are some travel YouTube creators posted
videos where to move abroad if Kamala Harris win. Same
thing is, where do you go if Trump wins the election? Now,
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people typically have a bunch of reasons for moving this
time around politics. There's a lot to do with it,
but work opportunities, a sense of exploration, just want to
move someplace lowering the cost of living in retirement because
your income drops substantially and you're still living in southern California,
so maybe it's time.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
To get out, all right. So I have decided, and.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Neil, you've been hearing this for years from me, and
you've been hearing this for years from me, and that
is I want to retire when I retire to Italy.
And I'm sitting down and trying to figure out Lindsay
and I are trying to figure.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Out where and how, and the.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Decision is probably most of the year overseas. And I
just bought a house, as you know, and I'm still
going to keep it. And why I want out, well,
of all those reasons.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Exploration, the politics.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
We hate each other now and I'm having a very
very tough time with it. There are people I know
that they're not talking to their family members anymore because
of the politics. I've never seen that before. The hatred
that's being spewed, it just drives me completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The attack on democracy, which I have shared.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So I am one of those people that are have
decided I'm going to move overseas for a period of
time several months a year when I retire, which is
still a ways off. So at this point I'll probably
do forty five years here or eighty six before I retire.
So let me share with you something that I have
not shared before. I am applying for Polish citizenship.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
That tracks yep. Why well, because it's real simple.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
First of all, I can because my father, even though
he grew up in Yugoslavia and was a Yugoslav.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Citizen, he was born in Poland.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Therefore I am able to apply for Polish citizens Now, why.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Would I want to be a pole a polllock?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Am I not even allowed to say that? Why would
I want to be a Polock? So people can make
fun of me? And how many people, how many of
us it will take to change the light bulb?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
No, not for those reasons.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's because Poland is a member of the EU. I
then become a citizen of the European community, which means aha,
I'm not a furner going into Italy. Incidentally, I am
not by myself. There are companies that I've reached out
to and my niece is actually doing all the research
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that help people, and the number of folks that are
now interested has exploded. Where people just want to move out.
There are websites after websites out there. Henley In Partners
a global firm that helps people get residency and citizenship
in other countries through investments. There are certain places where
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you put enough money in and you can get residency
and or you can get nationality, you can get to citizenship.
Those have gone up like crazy. Now is that necessarily
where you want to live. Not necessarily. Those are kind
of obscure places. But let me tell you where most
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what most people seeking residency where they go to Antigua, Barbados, Portugal, Malta.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Greece, Spain.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Is where they want to become citizens of and want
to move They want to move out, and that's the
shame of it. And by the way that goes right
in line with direct Buyers dot Com because of the
number of people that are buying in direct direct Buyers
dot Com. And I don't know this number, by the way,
I'm just extrapolating because I haven't talked to the folks
there about the number of people that are moving out
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of the country.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I have to find that out. I'm sure that's increased dramatically.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So I am going to say at some point, a rivederci, Well,
let me put it this way, uh, part way of rivaderci,
because I'm still gonna be here months at a time.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So it's a reeve.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
We need all of you weak people to leave so
the country can go back to being strong again. The
truth is, if you can't stay here and make things
better and think that it's going to be better in
some of these crap countries that have beautiful scenery but
horrible politics there as well than good written.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well you don't get involved in politics. Yeah, and I am.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And by the way, that's the reality.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I don't want to make it better. I don't want
to make it better here. I don't care enough about
you to make it better.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Go you make it better by leaving.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh, I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Whenever, how many emails you think we're gonna get, and
that you're gonna get. Bill's bitching about America. Let him
go back to where he came from.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, go back to Brazil.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yes, where the politics are wonderful.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And you have crazy bol scenario who was more insane.
He what he did easy, What he would do is
describe himself as the Trump of South America and wanted
to out Trump Trump in Brazil.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's why I'm not going down to Brazil, because they're
crazy people. It's all crazy. It's all crazy, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Here is a Tuesday morning, November fifth, And of course,
the big, big story is today, the entire day.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It is the election. And so are we going to
know who has won the presidency?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Nah?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Not really.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We'll probably have a good idea as to the propositions.
Local measures will probably have a pretty good idea, and
unless it is a complete blowout, we really won't know.
And even if there is a blowout, there'll be so
many lawsuits filed, there will so many be recounts being instituted,
that we're not going to know. Well, I think at
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best we're going to probably know by this weekend. In
any case, let's talk about the interference.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Unrest which you're going to see today.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Law enforcement, not only here in California but across the
country are prepared right now for threats against election workers,
violence at polling places, voter intimidation, certainly, skepticism from Republicans
about the integrity to voting process. And that's been my
complaint is so many Americans simply don't believe we have
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a free election anymore. And it doesn't matter how careful
the security is, and it doesn't matter how well tuned
and how fair the authorities are making this. They're becoming
more and more security these elections, and they're becoming more
and more questioned, to the point where today there are
a huge number of Americans do believe that the election
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is rigged by definition if Trump doesn't win it. And unfortunately,
and this is not the vast majority, I mean a
lot of people simply believe that. But how many people
are willing to do a January sixth and how many
people are willing to actually intimidate and threaten poll workers?
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Way too many. The US Attorney's Office is for months
been working with voting officials, police sheriff's departments to simply
secure polling places and locations where ballots are counted. Have
beefed up security, bomb and fire firearms, stiffing dogs, metal detectors,
panic buttons, even rooftop snipers to protect poll workers.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And this all started in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We've never had this issue before the stop and steal
protests across the country which culminated in January sixth, where
of course you had those attacking the capital to undo
the election and to peaceably, as Trump said, ask Mike
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Pence to not certify. You heard chance of hang Mike Pence,
Hang Mike Pence. Police officers being completely got attacked.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I mean it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And how many people out there still think it was
a peaceful demonstration. Way too many. That's how crazy this
has all become. So the story is security. The story
is the validity of the count and here is how
secure it's going to be. There.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Not only will be.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Ballots being counted by hand after the machine counting and recounted,
there will be there'll be people that are.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Watching there.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
On both sides, both Republicans and Democrats, and federal officials
and local officials watching both the ballots being delivered, the counting,
the voting booths. There has never been security like this
ever to secure a fair election. And every single election
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official out there across the country, Conservative States, Republican election officials,
everyone have said that we have a secure election coming up,
and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's even main
stream politicians. The Speaker of the House, his position is
(04:25):
the election was still invalid. Joe Biden lost the election,
and he has not confirmed that.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He will verify the vote.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
He said that he has not said, of course the
House is going to verify because part of the process.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'll explain it later on how it actually works.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's kind of an interesting process, the electoral college and
how a president is declared the winner.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
He has said he doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
If he is going to certify the vote. If Kamala harswings.
That's how crazy it has become. It is insane. It
used to be these people would be this kind of thinking,
would be guys on the street corner with a bullhorn
and you would ignore them. There crazy. Now you have
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the Speaker of the House of Representative with his bullthorn
bullhorn up on the speaker's podium in the House. Can
you tell how depressed I am about this? Well, what's
going to be over today? Then I'll go into my
normal life as crap. It's just that life is particularly
crap today. This is when my cynicism actually has some validity.
(05:36):
I think, all right, there is other news out there.
The striking workers at Boeing. There not a strike.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
They've agreed to the deal, and the rest of it
really is.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Election news, and some of it's either good or bad.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No one has any idea.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And I'm not talking about who wins. I'm just talking
about what's going on. For example, let me give you
an one example of what's going on. You've got some
Republican led states that are saying they will block, try
to or are blocking the Justice Department's election monitors from
going inside polling places on election day. The US Department
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of Justice has people to go in and monitor the
polling places, not so much for the count, but to
ensure the federal law has followed. And you've got state
saying we don't want the FEDS in at all.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is that because the FEDS are part of this conspiracy
to steal the election?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I don't know. I can't think of any other reason.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Officials in Flora, in Texas have said they're not going
to allow FED monitors into the polling sites period. Missouri
filed a lawsuit wanting to block federal officials from observing
inside polling places. Texas same thing, trying to bar permanently
bar federal monitoring of elections in the state. And here's
how crazy this has actually become. The Justice Department last
(07:10):
week announced that it's deploying election monitors in eighty six
jurisdictions across twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
States on election day. By the way, they've been doing
this for sixty years.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Just to let you know, at this point both sides,
Democrats and Republicans, are bracing for the legal challenges of
the vote tallies.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We know that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
There is no question that the lawsuits the Recouncil will
be forced.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
The Justice departments monitoring efforts, which by the way, has
been in place, as I said, for fifty or sixty
years under both Democratic and Republican administrations, is.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
There to ensure that the Federal.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Voting Rights Act is being upheld. Who are these monitors
from the Department of Justice. They're lawyers who work for
the DOJ Civil Rights Division, attorneys across the country. They're
not law enforcement, they're not federal agents at all. It's
(08:15):
all about simply ensuring compliance with federal voting rights laws.
And this is the Voting Rights Act, for example, prohibits
intimidation threats against those who are casting ballots or counting votes.
Americans with Disabilities Act. What are they doing there? And
(08:38):
in ensuring that the ADA is being followed well. Ramps
that are going up to the polling places, access to
the polling booths.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
For example, people in wheelchairs are too low to.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Reach up there and vote, So there have to be
a certain number of the voting booths have to be lowered,
making sure that minorities aren't intimidated.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Which they had a habit of which.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Unfortunately before the Voting Rights Act was passed into law,
particularly in the Southern States, when blacks, they weren't prohibited
from voting, but the authorities did everything they.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Could to make sure that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Voting was well, let's just say, make it difficult for
black people.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's why we have the amendment, the poll tax amendment.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That certain states actually forced a poll tax you had
to pay to vote, which was used mainly to discriminate
against blacks because they were the poorest of the poor,
certainly in the South. So the Feds are there simply
to enforce the Voting Rights Act, disabilities, non discrimination, physical
(09:58):
aspects of the voting place, no intimidation, no one standing
within one hundred feet, and promoting politics. It has nothing
to do with account It has nothing to do with
how many votes are in place. It has nothing to
do with fraudulent votes. It has nothing to do with
(10:19):
poll workers somehow putting in changing the vote tally, or
people going into hacking the machines and making sure that
their candidate gets all the votes and stealing votes from.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
The other side.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It has to do with enforcing the federal Voting Rights Act,
and you have Southern states saying we want no issue
with that. We do not want any issue with that.
We do in the sense that we don't want them.
There I misspoke for a minute there.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It is.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Just, I think, just an example of where we've come
in terms of the vote.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And the scary part about all of this.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Since the twenty twenty election, state legislators have made sure
in many cases that election officials will have enormous power
to demand recounts, to not certify.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Although keep in mind, at this point you've.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Got election officials themselves, secretaries of state election officials all
even Republican districts, saying we're going to have the most
secure elections in the history of this country.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Doesn't matter. It's rigged even to.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The point where states are saying that the Feds can't
come in to uphold the Voting Rights Act, where people
in wheelchairs have to have as good an access to voting.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That's the problem. Yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Just the start of the crazy state that's going on. Okay,
on to Facebook now, I want to move your attention
over to Facebook and what's going on. So after the
twenty sixteen elections, Facebook was blamed by critics Meta, the
parent company, for undermining American democracy. Why because the apps
(12:23):
algorithm Newsfeed pushed hyperpartisan content, fake news, actually outright Russian
disinformation to huge numbers of people. And by the way,
first the company said, no, none of that is true.
And after Donald Trump won the election in twenty sixteen,
Mark Zuckerberg said, you know, it was pretty crazy to
(12:47):
think that fake news on Facebook had played a role
at all, which ten months later he took that back
and said, Okay, we looked at it and that data
did not contradict what the authority said that Facebook did
in fact influence we're talking about the disinformation on Facebook.
(13:11):
And so the company launched a bunch of new initiatives.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
One of them was this kind of war room where employees.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Across all these different departments came together in front of
this huge bank of computers to monitor Facebook for misinformation, disinformation,
fake news, threats of violence, reporters were invited in and
it turned out that it really didn't do much because.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Why well.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Journalists And this is an article out of the Atlantic
found that political advertisements, highly deceptive ones, still run amuck
on Facebook, election fraud conspiracy theories still run amuck, and Facebook,
which did have full time employees working on election integrity,
(14:03):
has a lot fewer. For example, Zuckerberg is no longer
having weekly meetings with people in charge of that war room.
So what is going on with Facebook? Well, they're letting
on a whole bunch of information, not that they want
(14:23):
to disinformation. Looks like they are not investing as much
money and controls into what's going on. And there is
a whole First Amendment argue argument. Well, Elon Musk is
at the top of that hierarchy in that not only
does he believe that any kind of disinformation, any kind
(14:45):
of information at all, should be available on social platforms,
he is aggressively advocating that the well, let's just say
that it's questionable as to how the election is going
to run. Musk has gone crazy, There's no question about it.
It is a situation where well, the only thing that
(15:09):
I can tell you is QAnon, which was completely crazy
in the twenty twenty election, has lost a lot of
its influence. You don't hear much about q and On anymore,
maybe from Marjorie Taylor Green. And here's why, because there
were enough attacks on q andon. QAnon was so crazy
(15:30):
that it lost its whatever small legitimacy it had, even
among those people that are into conspiracies.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was two nuts.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You know, you don't have too many people left that
are saying that the Democrats did in fact have a
pedophile ring in Chicago under a pizza parlor where Hillary
Clinton was involved in this Democratic plan to rape little
boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Okay, may be not anymore, So that's lost it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
How about the difference information though the election is rigged,
that there are programs out there that are being used
that have been hacked into the election machines, by the way,
that one cost reporting That costs Fox over three quarters
of a billion dollars in its settlement with the Minion,
(16:25):
which is the company that makes those machines. Giuliani got
hit big time with arguing about the fake election workers,
argument that they were part of a plot to steal
the election.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So what's happening is it's more widespread now.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
The Russians have jumped in, and not particularly because they
like Kamala Harris more than Donald Trump, although they do
like Donald Trump more, but it's more to so just
our belief in our election system, our disbelief in the
election system to make sure Americans stay fighting each other,
(17:04):
disarray in our very communications level, in our very way
we deal with other Americans.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Russians love that.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Also, you do have conspiracy theorists, and the big argument is,
and we're hearing that over and over again, you don't
even have to go vote. You don't even have to
go vote. If Kamala Harris wins, it's rigged even without
any votes. And if Donald Trump wins, it's still rigged.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But what he should have.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Done is won in a lot landslide, like he has
argued over and over again that in twenty twenty he
won by a landslide, even though Joe Biden won the
popular vote by seven million.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But it doesn't matter. All of that is fake. That's
what's going on. And that's the.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Part that these major social media platforms have to deal with.
Where does the First Amendment? Can people say that, well,
it's America? Can it be stopped. Can't facts? Is there
such thing as fact checking?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah? We try, We don't know how far does it go.
We have no idea.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
For example, you know X number of votes were cast,
what if it's just not true?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Is that fact checked?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And then you have AI that's being involved in all
of this, what do you do with that? That's why
we're at the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Of dealing with AI.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
As we know, dealing with security at the ballot box
and the counting centers, which has ramped up to the
point where they have snipers.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
On the roof of these counting centers.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
They have double gates, bulletproof glass, dogs, explosive you know,
not the dogs that explode, the dogs that smell explosives.
I always thought explosive dogs were ones that just actually
blew up. I was wrong on that. I try to
keep up, but not always coming out something that I'm
(19:07):
thinking of doing. I know, I'm a little being a
little depressed about the election today.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And it's not even the win. It's the fact that
it's rigged.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That we don't trust our election and so many people don't.
It's all fake. We don't have free elections anymore. That's
what pisses me off, and I've said that over and
over again. I'll stop by the end of the day.
I guarantee you tomorrow I'll be doing something else that'll
depress the hell out of you, hopefully. So people are
fed up with politics, how unusual, some Californians plan to
(19:39):
move abroad, including me.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I've been doing this show now over thirty one years.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
In the morning, I mean, let me tell you, we've
all gotten together, and you look like crap, I might add, So.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm doing the.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Story about people fed up with you as politics, and
some Californians plan to move abroad. And that has been
going on for a while because in many cases, people
are more and more unhappy with what's going on in
this state and the country, and of course this political
cycle has just ramped that up to where people are
truly concerned.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
And they just want to get out.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Sometimes it's financial because there are foreign place particularly in Mexico.
You know, Mexico has communities of fifty thousand Americans where
it's Little America and you can live on two thousand
dollars a month very nicely.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Try that in southern California.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So a lot of people decide they're going to move out,
and there are websites out there that help people do
exactly that. So there are some travel YouTube creators posted
videos where to move abroad if Kamala Harris win. Same
thing is, where do you go if Trump wins the election? Now,
(20:56):
people typically have a bunch of reasons for moving this
time around politics. There's a lot to do with it,
but work opportunities, a sense of exploration, just want to
move someplace lowering the cost of living in retirement because
your income drops substantially and you're still living in southern California,
so maybe it's time.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
To get out, all right. So I have decided, and.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Neil, you've been hearing this for years from me, and
you've been hearing this for years from me, and that
is I want to retire when I retire to Italy.
And I'm sitting down and trying to figure out Lindsay
and I are trying to figure.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Out where and how, and the.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Decision is probably most of the year overseas. And I
just bought a house, as you know, and I'm still
going to keep it. And why I want out, well,
of all those reasons.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Exploration, the politics.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
We hate each other now and I'm having a very
very tough time with it. There are people I know
that they're not talking to their family members anymore because
of the politics. I've never seen that before. The hatred
that's being spewed, it just drives me completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The attack on democracy, which I have shared.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So I am one of those people that are have
decided I'm going to move overseas for a period of
time several months a year when I retire, which is
still a ways off. So at this point I'll probably
do forty five years here or eighty six before I retire.
So let me share with you something that I have
not shared before. I am applying for Polish citizenship.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
That tracks yep. Why well, because it's real simple.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
First of all, I can because my father, even though
he grew up in Yugoslavia and was a Yugoslav.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Citizen, he was born in Poland.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Therefore I am able to apply for Polish citizens Now, why.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Would I want to be a pole a polllock?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Am I not even allowed to say that? Why would
I want to be a Polock? So people can make
fun of me? And how many people, how many of
us it will take to change the light bulb?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
No, not for those reasons.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's because Poland is a member of the EU. I
then become a citizen of the European community, which means aha,
I'm not a furner going into Italy. Incidentally, I am
not by myself. There are companies that I've reached out
to and my niece is actually doing all the research
(23:31):
that help people, and the number of folks that are
now interested has exploded. Where people just want to move out.
There are websites after websites out there. Henley In Partners
a global firm that helps people get residency and citizenship
in other countries through investments. There are certain places where
(23:55):
you put enough money in and you can get residency
and or you can get nationality, you can get to citizenship.
Those have gone up like crazy. Now is that necessarily
where you want to live. Not necessarily. Those are kind
of obscure places. But let me tell you where most
(24:15):
what most people seeking residency where they go to Antigua, Barbados, Portugal, Malta.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Greece, Spain.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Is where they want to become citizens of and want
to move They want to move out, and that's the
shame of it. And by the way that goes right
in line with direct Buyers dot Com because of the
number of people that are buying in direct direct Buyers
dot Com. And I don't know this number, by the way,
I'm just extrapolating because I haven't talked to the folks
there about the number of people that are moving out
(24:48):
of the country.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I have to find that out. I'm sure that's increased dramatically.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So I am going to say at some point, a rivederci, Well,
let me put it this way, uh, part way of rivaderci,
because I'm still gonna be here months at a time.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So it's a reeve.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
We need all of you weak people to leave so
the country can go back to being strong again. The
truth is, if you can't stay here and make things
better and think that it's going to be better in
some of these crap countries that have beautiful scenery but
horrible politics there as well than good written.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well you don't get involved in politics. Yeah, and I am.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And by the way, that's the reality.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I don't want to make it better. I don't want
to make it better here. I don't care enough about
you to make it better.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Go you make it better by leaving.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh, I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Whenever, how many emails you think we're gonna get, and
that you're gonna get. Bill's bitching about America. Let him
go back to where he came from.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, go back to Brazil.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yes, where the politics are wonderful.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And you have crazy bol scenario who was more insane.
He what he did easy, What he would do is
describe himself as the Trump of South America and wanted
to out Trump Trump in Brazil.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's why I'm not going down to Brazil, because they're
crazy people. It's all crazy. It's all crazy, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
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