November 5, 2024 • 25 mins
KFI's own Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Tech Tuesday'! Rich talks about ____. The electoral college: what you need to know. The economy will determine the 2024 presidential election, but it’s not clear how.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bill Handle here on a Tuesday morning, and it is
election day. Oh yeah, some most of us have already voted.
And if you haven't voted, I'm going to hit the
polls today. Is there going to be any interference? I
don't think so. I think there's so much security out
there that it's not going to happen. You can bet
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what's going on in Washington, DC. You know, businesses have
already shut down in anticipation of what is the fright
that January sixth is going to happen again.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It won't. It's just not going to happen. Now, let's move.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Over into the world of tech. It's Tech Tuesday with
Rich Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You can hear him live.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Every Saturday from eight to eleven, from eleven to two
pm here on KFI rich on Tech. You see him
every day on KTLA, Instagram, at rich on Tech website,
rich On.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Good morning, Rich, Hey, good morning to you. Bill.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh so much going on now AI.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The big fear that we I, a lot of us
had was AI was going to be up to its
eyeballs in election information.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not so much.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Is that what I'm hearing, Yeah, not so much. If
you go onto Google or chat GBT and ask it
about the election or a prop vote, whatever it is,
it pretty much just says, sorry, we're not doing that,
and so it will lead you to sort of the
mainstream websites for election information, something like you know, ap
associated Press, something like that. It doesn't really want to
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get into election info because we all know what these
things do, right Bill, You've heard of hallucination. They just
make up information, and so nobody wanted to be left
looking all sad faced with the information that these chatbots
are giving out. Except one. So there's another chatbot called
perplexity AI. This one's actually pretty good. The approach this
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chatbot takes is it sort of a question and answer chatbot.
So what it does is it tries to cite the
sources of exactly where it's getting the information it's giving
to you. So if you say, hey, give me the
top ten destinations in the United States for a great vacation,
it will cite the sources of where it got that.
So now they launched this election hub from perplexity AI
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perplexityai dot sorry, perplexity dot AI slash elections and they've
got everything in there, so all of the races, all
of the people that are running all of the propositions.
You put in your zip code and it will give
you all the information, and then you can tap one
of them and it will tell you know their background
for a candidate. It will tell you what a proer
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yes or no means on a ballot initiative. And of
course they've got all the sources that they're pulling from.
So is it perfect, Probably not, but is it pretty good?
Actually it's not bad.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So any information on how much it's being used, how
much it has grown, the attacks on it from people
that are trying to get disinformation on social.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Media, well I don't. I don't have information on how
much it's being used, but it's it's being highly cited
in the tech community because it's one of the few
ais that's actually tackling this subject head on, and it's actually,
I think from looking at it, it's doing a pretty
decent job, you know, especially the fact that you can
put in your zip code and see exactly what will
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be on your ballot, and then of course you get
answers to the questions in the way that you want.
So most people, especially with propositions, they can be kind
of confusing. You may vote yes and actually want to
vote no, or you might vote no and actually want
to vote yes. And so this in like Layman's terms,
will explain what a yes vote means, what a no
vote means, and what the impact is. And plus it
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gives you these related questions, you know, when it comes
to anyone, whether it's a candidate or a you know,
one of these propositions. So I think it's actually one
of the more interesting things that I've seen. They also
have the action you know, information like who's winning on
this page as well, So it's going to transform probably
later on today with a little bit more of the
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results information too.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, you bring up an interesting point for people who
have not yet voted, and so based on what you said,
and of course I rely on you, is that before
you're voting, if you're voting today and have not yet voted,
is to go on to perplexity AI. And it's just
that's it, perplexity AI. That's all you do is type that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
In your search, yeah engine perplexity.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, So with that, finding out what propositions actually mean,
because the beauty of propositions in California is what they
say is never what.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They mean ever.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay, thank you for saying that, Bill, because I don't
want to say that, because you know, I don't want
to steer one way or another. But like to me,
it's the most confusing thing in life, these propositions, and
they make no sense. I'm like, wait, do I support
this or not? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, no, they're they're purposely there to confuse, even to
the point where it's citizens against taxation of some kind,
it's actually protax right, and it's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Any other way around.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, and to find some independent objective means of saying, hey,
this is what it means. Uh. That is magic and
that is and it's not the electorate's fault that we
don't understand what these propositions do and how they affect us,
et cetera. It is the way they are written so
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convoluted that they don't want you to know.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
They just want you to be.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Aware of their of their talking points and vote their way,
and they'll do it's it should be illegal what they do.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It should be criminal what they do.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, I thought it was a flaw in my very
not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Not at all, Boy, you have it right on. I mean,
you're a fairly bright guy. Maybe not so bright, but
reasonably bright. And if you are confused, let me tell
you a lot of people are.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I am.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just have to sit through it very carefully. And
I have to do this because this is what I do.
All right, let's just get into Gizmo's all right, the
first color Kindle from Amazon. I've always been a fan
of kindle. But how popular is kindle? And let's talk
about the first color Kindle.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh, I think kindles are very popular, although I will
say so, I read my kindle all the time. I
love mine. But I did switch to a physical book
this time for this latest book I bought, and it's
kind of an impulse by and I will tell you
it wasn't as comfortable last night reading because yeah, I
don't know about you, when the last time you read
like a regular book. But it's like you've got to
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position your hands like a million different ways, like yes,
you're repositioning.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah I do.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Bo. Actually I read on my phone because it's so convenient,
but that's not easy. But you're right reading a book.
I'll tell you where I got pissed off. Is I
just bought war by Woodward. Right, it's yeah, great, So
I bought it hard copy thirty five bucks. Then I'm
looking at my Amazon Prime. Well it's included. Here's a
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free copy for you.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Let me tell you how happy.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh, by the.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Way, you want to buy a hardcover war I'll give
it to you for half price.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And that's the other thing, so you get you know,
the Kindle books are way cheaper than the heart like,
so if you want a new book that came out right,
so you get the hardcover that's very expensive. You go
on Kindle, it's half the price because you don't actually
own it. Number one, it's like a digital copy. Number two.
They know you can't resell it or give it give
it to anyone after you're done with it. So I
understand why they're cheaper, but it is frustrating when you
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want the newest, latest, greatest, and yeah, it's like for me,
I think they should do what they do with the
physical books like they did with the movies, Like they
come out in the theater and they're on demand like
almost the same day. Let's give me the paperback and
the hardcover at the same time. Give me a choice.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, that makes sense. And I see I haven't heard
much about kindle. But what's a big deal about a
color kindle If you're reading a book? Is it for
the pictures in the middle of the books? What's that about?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, exactly. See, I'm not convinced that actually anyone needs
a color kindle unless they are looking at comic books
or you know, picture books something like that. But yes,
Amazon did come out with a color Kindle. I think
you're on vacation when we talked about this. It's called
the Colorsoft. It's two hundred and eighty dollars, and so
you know, it's kind of like that same e ink
that you would get on a kindle, but it also
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can display color. But apparently they've been having some issues
with this device. On the display. People are seeing a
yellow bar. It's not looking as good. People getting headaches
from looking at this thing early users, so they've delayed
the shipments of this device. So if you're getting a
color Kindle, you may not be getting it when you
thought you were. I personally, unless you have a reason
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for having the color Kindle, I don't see the point,
you know. I get that it's the same kind of
printed page. Look, but like, how many pictures do you
need to look at a book that are color? I
don't think you really do unless you're reading, like I said,
a comic book page or something.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, and those are the geniuses that are listening. Comic
books are a big deal. I started, I stopped that
when I was about nine, But then again that's me.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I know that you've got anime and you've got very.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Sophisticated comic books out there. Anyway, enough of this value judgment.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Pixel nine.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Explain what that ex I don't know what a Pixel
nine is, and it's a thirty percent discount right now,
and I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Numbers lies, well, the Pixel nine. Google just came out
and said that the Pixel nine is one of their
best selling pixels ever. Got a good review for myself.
I actually love this phone. It's got all the AI
features you need, it's got an excellent camera, it's got
a great form factor. But it's expensive, just like any
other smartphone these days. But if you go into your
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Android and look into Google Play, they are running a
promotion right now for thirty percent off this phone. So
this is what I talk about when I do my reviews.
I say, do not pay full price for certain gadgets.
And those gadgets are always the Amazon gadgets like anything
Kindle or ring or something like that that's made by Amazon,
and also the Google gadgets and the Samsung stuff. They
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always go on sale, especially during the holiday. So right now,
if you had your eye on buying a new Pixel
like I did yesterday, it was over one thousand dollars.
Today it's thirty percent off. So check your Google Play.
That's for I know. I know, Bill, you're all iPhones,
so I and those never no, I know, because I
just don't.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Here's my point. I don't want to learn another system.
I mean, I've drive me nuts.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You buy every phone out there, or you review every
phone out there, you have to relearn every phone.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yes, I know every phone inside and out like I.
And this is Bill. I mean, this is part of
the reason why I do my show on Saturdays. It's
you know, people call in with questions about all these things.
If I only picked one platform A, my life would
be a lot easier. But you know, you've got a
lot of Samsung users out there. He's got a smaller
number of Pixel users, but a majority I did a
survey the other day of my followers, and about sixty
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five percent where iPhone, about twenty five percent where Samsung,
and about ten percent where Pixel, one percent or other.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So all right, I'm now going to give you probably
the most valuable advice you will hear in a very
long time.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Hear it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You have to learn all of these products in order
to do your show correctly. I don't know if you've
ever listened to Handle on the Law, which I have
done for decades.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And right before.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, so here's I'm going to take my suggestion in
terms of answering questions.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
About that sort of stuff. Make it up like I do.
Just make it up and it works.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Nobody will know the difference.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's correct, Nobody knows the different As a matter of fact,
the more you make it up, the more credibility you have.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So Bill, you're the original AI. Then you're just making
stuff up like hallucinations.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's the way I do pretty much.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, and people believe that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'll get questions where I some one will ask me,
you know, a legal question.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I'll go through the whole history of the statutes and the.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Holy necessary what the Supreme Court says, in all the
different cases in which way they.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Go and go really built? No, No, I just made
it up. Boy, are you crazy? If you want a lawyer,
go to a real lawyer. Leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Why are you calling me on my show that's naturally syndicated?
Don't you know?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
What do they say? The device is worth what you
pay for it?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But the reality I know is you really do spend
a lot of time looking at this stuff, and a
tech show is probably the hardest show you can do.
I think out there, the amount of homework you have
to do in keeping up with things that are changing
every two seconds.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
There's real quick I know, we got to go. But
there's two types of people that listen to the show.
The people that want to help and then the real
nerds that are listening just to see how much I
screw up in my answers.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, fair enough. Neil, for example, when he does Foody Friday,
I mean you ask him a technical question, he just
brings out the Betty Crocker cookbook and he's done. You
actually have to work perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'll take the cookbook.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Too, Okay, I'll catch you next week. Take care Bill,
all right? Bye.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Rich every Saturday here eleven to two. He's on KTLA
everyday and Instagram at rich on Tech website, rich on
Tech dot TV. One quick note before I go into
the Electoral College, just to try to explain what's going on, because.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It's a weird system.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
The attorneys general from forty seven states and three US
territories urging people how unusual to remain peaceful and to
preemptively condemn any acts of violence related to the results,
signed by the chief prosecutors of every single US state,
of course, except Indiana, Montana, and Texas. They wouldn't even
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sign that saying please be peaceful.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
At the polls.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You wonder why I'm so exercised over this now, the
electoral College. We hear a lot about that, and it's
a very weird American thing. But I want to start
with a premise. Why did the founding fathers establish the
electrical College? Because the founding fathers thought that the electorate,
the normal people, the people to vote, are too stupid
to actually elect the president. Also, it was a Senate
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we were too stupid to elect. But that became the
popular vote. The only non popular vote that exists now
is the presidency so it's way different from the popular vote,
and it really is very important in the way presidential
politics are running campaigns as of right now. For example,
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both Trump and Bush lost the popular vote when they ran,
yet won the presidency because of the Electoral College. Now
Democrats are charging the system favors Republicans may under the
circumstances now and argue we should just elect presidents because
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we should have a popular election because people vote and
the majority decides who's president.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No chance. No chance.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
By the way, this electoral system was set up in
the Constitution by the Framers, and it's going to need
a constitucial amendment to change.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I thought it was going to change after Gore v. Bush.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I really thought that it would change because it was
so screwed up.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Not a chance gotten stronger.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So five hundred and thirty eight members that are the
Electoral College, and what it was set up to do
is to give more power to the states and as
a compromise to avoid having Congress decide the winner, because
that was the real discussion, never people voting, does Congress
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determine or do the states determined who's going to be
the president?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So let's make it to states. The front framers decided.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So each state electors votes for the candidate who won
the popular vote in that state.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
All right, the runner up gets nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So if someone wins, fifty percent plus one gets all
the electoral votes. Fifty one percent gets one hundred percent
of the electoral votes. Except in three states or two Nebraska, Maine,
which is a little bit different. And you've heard that
magic number two hundred and seven electoral votes. Well that's
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the majority of the five hundred and thirty eight possible votes.
So as far as the electors are concerned, its majority.
As far as the number of electures that go to
the electoral college by state, it's a majority. And it's
not a popular election at all. It doesn't exist in
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our country. More weight is given to a single vote
in a small state only because it's the same vote.
So we have forty million people in this state and
we vote for whoever. Rhode Island has twelve people, and
they have exactly the same power in the electoral colleges
we do, which means.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Our vote is far less important.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
For example, you win in California by one vote, you
get all the electorals.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You win by one vote in Rhode Island.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You get all the electorals and look at the different
now contract Now we have more delegates, we have more
members of delegates.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But we don't have more members of the electoral College.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's the problem, and it is well, let me put
it this way. If both candidates are tied with the
number of votes, then it goes to the House, and
the House the sides who's president.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Who would be the president today?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It would be the It would be Trump because the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Have a four vote majority.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
If it were last time around, when Pelosi had was
Speaker and the Democrats had the majority, guess what.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It would be. It would have been the Democratic nominee.
It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It would have been Hillary because the majority was held
by the Democrats at that point.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
So how does it all work?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, the bottom line you get here is that it
is very complicated.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Small states have more power.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The way it works out right now, the Republicans have
more power. Be prepared that if Donald Trump wins.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Which is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Obviously just absolutely may kind of sort of under some
circumstances happen.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Same thing goes for Kamalay Harris. It's a dead heat basically.
One thing.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's a guarantee Kamala Harris will overwhelmingly have the popular
vote that I guarantee by a factor of millions. Now,
we don't know who's going to win the presidency, and
we're probably not going to know until the end.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Of the week.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So tomorrow at least we stop about the election. All
we do is talk about the lawsuits and the attacks.
Hopefully by hopefully.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Within a week, it's all done. It's finished. We're gone,
all right, So we're not going to know.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
However, let's talk about what we do know or I know,
and that is as the craziness that's going around Donald
Trump and how he is not sticking to messaging. The
most important argument he has, the best argument he has
for this election is the economy that blows everything away.
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All the rest of it is the Well, certainly immigration
is important, and certainly reproductive rights are important. But I
would say out of the first ten or if you
go one to ten, one, two, three, four, and five,
the economy and then every else everything else falls down
below that.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So it's a little complicated.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Why, well, the economy is growing, it's generated millions of
news jobs, push wages higher. On the other hand, prices
are sharply higher than when President Biden took office. Housing
has gone insane, interest is gone insane. So which way
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is it going? Well, that's the problem, and that's the point.
This is a razor's edge. It's not that clean, not
even close, because you have two arguments on obviously either side.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
And there is even some contradictions, things.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Like a lot of people believe the economy is in
a god awful mess. You're spending more money. You don't
spend money when the economy is bad. You're spending a
lot more money. Well, the economy is so terrible. Our
wages are horrible, not keeping up with inflation. Not true,
wages are going beyond inflation or going ahead of inflation. However,
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even if inflation is under control, even if it were
to zero, what did happen during the Biden years, And
that is inflation hit big, prices went up. And I'll
tell you, you go to a restaurant, even though prices are
not going to go up the next year, you're still
paying thirty percent more than you did.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Two years ago or three years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And that's baked in, that's baked It at resonates when
Trump says, how are you today? Have you been affected
by inflation? Damn right, I have been. And here's the
other thing. And this is based on some models that
have been written by a Yale University economist developed in
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nineteen seventies. What people tend to do is remember the
bad and forget the good very quickly. The memory for
the bad stays a long time, and the me for
the good or.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Experiencing good, not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
For example, and Neil, you've been a recipient of emails,
how many good emails come in as opposed to negative emails?
When people talk about our shows, Yeah I can't hear you.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You don't have microphone on.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, I'm here, Okay, Yeah, we always get a lot
of negative and it doesn't matter because one negative puts
all the.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'm not even arguing that, I'm just saying people, it's
people react negatively far more than they react positively. Or
do you remember negative far more than positive? So Kamala
Harris can talk about how terrific the economy is in
many ways, she's right, the economy is doing great, but
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she can't get away from the fact that inflation has
literally affected virtually every one of us.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And this is why.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
And by the way, it breaks down obviously the Democrat
versus Republican Democrat that we're looking at and going, hey,
we're in pretty good shape. Republicans saying, no, this is horrible.
Why Harris says this is in pretty good shape. That's
the mantra. Of course, Trump is saying the economy is
so horrible, it's going to be a great depression. It's
gonna the America is going to be destroyed, not just
by policy but financially and so put all, although it
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is the strongest single message, So how are we going
to know who prevails? Well, in reality, we're not going
to know on that message. We know the economy is
a factor. We know reproductive rights are a factor. We
know that inflation is a factor. How much, Well, we're
probably not going to know until social science is really
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social scientists really.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Break all of this down. All right, guys, we are done.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We start again tomorrow morning, that day after the election.
Let's see if we can get some news up. Maybe
the proposition some local local races will have been called.
I think so, and that it starts at five am
with Amy and wake up call, and then coming up
from six to nine, all of us get together on
the morning show in the meantime. Oh and a quick
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hello to Kono and and that somehow I have to.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Throw in there.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And I don't know why, but I think I'm contractedly
obligated to do.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
To mention Kono that you're even part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Thank you by you're welcome, I mean, I appreciate it, Okay, generous.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I certain forget to put on your calendar this Saturday
to ninth, Bill, Yeah, they are going to be out
at Wild Fork in Laguna Negal from two to five
doing the Fork Report. Bill's going to co host the
entire time with me this Saturday, the ninth, Laguna Negal
at the Wild Fork. We'll be having samples giveaways, including
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a Mini Max, Big Green Egg.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It'll be a good time.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, we'll be pitching it for the rest of the week.
I'm sorry I didn't bring it up enough, Neil, come on.
So yeah, we'll do that from now to the rest week.
Catching tomorrow everybody KFI AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bill Handle here on a Tuesday morning, and it is
election day. Oh yeah, some most of us have already voted.
And if you haven't voted, I'm going to hit the
polls today. Is there going to be any interference? I
don't think so. I think there's so much security out
there that it's not going to happen. You can bet
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what's going on in Washington, DC. You know, businesses have
already shut down in anticipation of what is the fright
that January sixth is going to happen again.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It won't. It's just not going to happen. Now, let's move.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Over into the world of tech. It's Tech Tuesday with
Rich Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You can hear him live.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Every Saturday from eight to eleven, from eleven to two
pm here on KFI rich on Tech. You see him
every day on KTLA, Instagram, at rich on Tech website,
rich On.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Good morning, Rich, Hey, good morning to you. Bill.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh so much going on now AI.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The big fear that we I, a lot of us
had was AI was going to be up to its
eyeballs in election information.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not so much.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Is that what I'm hearing, Yeah, not so much. If
you go onto Google or chat GBT and ask it
about the election or a prop vote, whatever it is,
it pretty much just says, sorry, we're not doing that,
and so it will lead you to sort of the
mainstream websites for election information, something like you know, ap
associated Press, something like that. It doesn't really want to
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get into election info because we all know what these
things do, right Bill, You've heard of hallucination. They just
make up information, and so nobody wanted to be left
looking all sad faced with the information that these chatbots
are giving out. Except one. So there's another chatbot called
perplexity AI. This one's actually pretty good. The approach this
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chatbot takes is it sort of a question and answer chatbot.
So what it does is it tries to cite the
sources of exactly where it's getting the information it's giving
to you. So if you say, hey, give me the
top ten destinations in the United States for a great vacation,
it will cite the sources of where it got that.
So now they launched this election hub from perplexity AI
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perplexityai dot sorry, perplexity dot AI slash elections and they've
got everything in there, so all of the races, all
of the people that are running all of the propositions.
You put in your zip code and it will give
you all the information, and then you can tap one
of them and it will tell you know their background
for a candidate. It will tell you what a proer
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yes or no means on a ballot initiative. And of
course they've got all the sources that they're pulling from.
So is it perfect, Probably not, but is it pretty good?
Actually it's not bad.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So any information on how much it's being used, how
much it has grown, the attacks on it from people
that are trying to get disinformation on social.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Media, well I don't. I don't have information on how
much it's being used, but it's it's being highly cited
in the tech community because it's one of the few
ais that's actually tackling this subject head on, and it's actually,
I think from looking at it, it's doing a pretty
decent job, you know, especially the fact that you can
put in your zip code and see exactly what will
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be on your ballot, and then of course you get
answers to the questions in the way that you want.
So most people, especially with propositions, they can be kind
of confusing. You may vote yes and actually want to
vote no, or you might vote no and actually want
to vote yes. And so this in like Layman's terms,
will explain what a yes vote means, what a no
vote means, and what the impact is. And plus it
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gives you these related questions, you know, when it comes
to anyone, whether it's a candidate or a you know,
one of these propositions. So I think it's actually one
of the more interesting things that I've seen. They also
have the action you know, information like who's winning on
this page as well, So it's going to transform probably
later on today with a little bit more of the
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results information too.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, you bring up an interesting point for people who
have not yet voted, and so based on what you said,
and of course I rely on you, is that before
you're voting, if you're voting today and have not yet voted,
is to go on to perplexity AI. And it's just
that's it, perplexity AI. That's all you do is type that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
In your search, yeah engine perplexity.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, So with that, finding out what propositions actually mean,
because the beauty of propositions in California is what they
say is never what.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
They mean ever.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay, thank you for saying that, Bill, because I don't
want to say that, because you know, I don't want
to steer one way or another. But like to me,
it's the most confusing thing in life, these propositions, and
they make no sense. I'm like, wait, do I support
this or not? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, no, they're they're purposely there to confuse, even to
the point where it's citizens against taxation of some kind,
it's actually protax right, and it's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Any other way around.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, and to find some independent objective means of saying, hey,
this is what it means. Uh. That is magic and
that is and it's not the electorate's fault that we
don't understand what these propositions do and how they affect us,
et cetera. It is the way they are written so
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convoluted that they don't want you to know.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
They just want you to be.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Aware of their of their talking points and vote their way,
and they'll do it's it should be illegal what they do.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It should be criminal what they do.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, I thought it was a flaw in my very
not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Not at all, Boy, you have it right on. I mean,
you're a fairly bright guy. Maybe not so bright, but
reasonably bright. And if you are confused, let me tell
you a lot of people are.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I am.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just have to sit through it very carefully. And
I have to do this because this is what I do.
All right, let's just get into Gizmo's all right, the
first color Kindle from Amazon. I've always been a fan
of kindle. But how popular is kindle? And let's talk
about the first color Kindle.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Oh, I think kindles are very popular, although I will
say so, I read my kindle all the time. I
love mine. But I did switch to a physical book
this time for this latest book I bought, and it's
kind of an impulse by and I will tell you
it wasn't as comfortable last night reading because yeah, I
don't know about you, when the last time you read
like a regular book. But it's like you've got to
(06:41):
position your hands like a million different ways, like yes,
you're repositioning.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah I do.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Bo. Actually I read on my phone because it's so convenient,
but that's not easy. But you're right reading a book.
I'll tell you where I got pissed off. Is I
just bought war by Woodward. Right, it's yeah, great, So
I bought it hard copy thirty five bucks. Then I'm
looking at my Amazon Prime. Well it's included. Here's a
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free copy for you.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Let me tell you how happy.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh, by the.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Way, you want to buy a hardcover war I'll give
it to you for half price.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And that's the other thing, so you get you know,
the Kindle books are way cheaper than the heart like,
so if you want a new book that came out right,
so you get the hardcover that's very expensive. You go
on Kindle, it's half the price because you don't actually
own it. Number one, it's like a digital copy. Number two.
They know you can't resell it or give it give
it to anyone after you're done with it. So I
understand why they're cheaper, but it is frustrating when you
(07:41):
want the newest, latest, greatest, and yeah, it's like for me,
I think they should do what they do with the
physical books like they did with the movies, Like they
come out in the theater and they're on demand like
almost the same day. Let's give me the paperback and
the hardcover at the same time. Give me a choice.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, that makes sense. And I see I haven't heard
much about kindle. But what's a big deal about a
color kindle If you're reading a book? Is it for
the pictures in the middle of the books? What's that about?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, exactly. See, I'm not convinced that actually anyone needs
a color kindle unless they are looking at comic books
or you know, picture books something like that. But yes,
Amazon did come out with a color Kindle. I think
you're on vacation when we talked about this. It's called
the Colorsoft. It's two hundred and eighty dollars, and so
you know, it's kind of like that same e ink
that you would get on a kindle, but it also
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can display color. But apparently they've been having some issues
with this device. On the display. People are seeing a
yellow bar. It's not looking as good. People getting headaches
from looking at this thing early users, so they've delayed
the shipments of this device. So if you're getting a
color Kindle, you may not be getting it when you
thought you were. I personally, unless you have a reason
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for having the color Kindle, I don't see the point,
you know. I get that it's the same kind of
printed page. Look, but like, how many pictures do you
need to look at a book that are color? I
don't think you really do unless you're reading, like I said,
a comic book page or something.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, and those are the geniuses that are listening. Comic
books are a big deal. I started, I stopped that
when I was about nine, But then again that's me.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I know that you've got anime and you've got very.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Sophisticated comic books out there. Anyway, enough of this value judgment.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Pixel nine.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Explain what that ex I don't know what a Pixel
nine is, and it's a thirty percent discount right now,
and I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Numbers lies, well, the Pixel nine. Google just came out
and said that the Pixel nine is one of their
best selling pixels ever. Got a good review for myself.
I actually love this phone. It's got all the AI
features you need, it's got an excellent camera, it's got
a great form factor. But it's expensive, just like any
other smartphone these days. But if you go into your
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Android and look into Google Play, they are running a
promotion right now for thirty percent off this phone. So
this is what I talk about when I do my reviews.
I say, do not pay full price for certain gadgets.
And those gadgets are always the Amazon gadgets like anything
Kindle or ring or something like that that's made by Amazon,
and also the Google gadgets and the Samsung stuff. They
(10:11):
always go on sale, especially during the holiday. So right now,
if you had your eye on buying a new Pixel
like I did yesterday, it was over one thousand dollars.
Today it's thirty percent off. So check your Google Play.
That's for I know. I know, Bill, you're all iPhones,
so I and those never no, I know, because I
just don't.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Here's my point. I don't want to learn another system.
I mean, I've drive me nuts.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You buy every phone out there, or you review every
phone out there, you have to relearn every phone.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yes, I know every phone inside and out like I.
And this is Bill. I mean, this is part of
the reason why I do my show on Saturdays. It's
you know, people call in with questions about all these things.
If I only picked one platform A, my life would
be a lot easier. But you know, you've got a
lot of Samsung users out there. He's got a smaller
number of Pixel users, but a majority I did a
survey the other day of my followers, and about sixty
(11:01):
five percent where iPhone, about twenty five percent where Samsung,
and about ten percent where Pixel, one percent or other.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So all right, I'm now going to give you probably
the most valuable advice you will hear in a very
long time.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Hear it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You have to learn all of these products in order
to do your show correctly. I don't know if you've
ever listened to Handle on the Law, which I have
done for decades.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And right before.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, so here's I'm going to take my suggestion in
terms of answering questions.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
About that sort of stuff. Make it up like I do.
Just make it up and it works.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Nobody will know the difference.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's correct, Nobody knows the different As a matter of fact,
the more you make it up, the more credibility you have.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So Bill, you're the original AI. Then you're just making
stuff up like hallucinations.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's the way I do pretty much.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, and people believe that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'll get questions where I some one will ask me,
you know, a legal question.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I'll go through the whole history of the statutes and the.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Holy necessary what the Supreme Court says, in all the
different cases in which way they.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Go and go really built? No, No, I just made
it up. Boy, are you crazy? If you want a lawyer,
go to a real lawyer. Leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Why are you calling me on my show that's naturally syndicated?
Don't you know?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
What do they say? The device is worth what you
pay for it?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But the reality I know is you really do spend
a lot of time looking at this stuff, and a
tech show is probably the hardest show you can do.
I think out there, the amount of homework you have
to do in keeping up with things that are changing
every two seconds.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
There's real quick I know, we got to go. But
there's two types of people that listen to the show.
The people that want to help and then the real
nerds that are listening just to see how much I
screw up in my answers.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, fair enough. Neil, for example, when he does Foody Friday,
I mean you ask him a technical question, he just
brings out the Betty Crocker cookbook and he's done. You
actually have to work perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'll take the cookbook.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Too, Okay, I'll catch you next week. Take care Bill,
all right? Bye.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Rich every Saturday here eleven to two. He's on KTLA
everyday and Instagram at rich on Tech website, rich on
Tech dot TV. One quick note before I go into
the Electoral College, just to try to explain what's going on, because.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It's a weird system.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
The attorneys general from forty seven states and three US
territories urging people how unusual to remain peaceful and to
preemptively condemn any acts of violence related to the results,
signed by the chief prosecutors of every single US state,
of course, except Indiana, Montana, and Texas. They wouldn't even
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sign that saying please be peaceful.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
At the polls.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You wonder why I'm so exercised over this now, the
electoral College. We hear a lot about that, and it's
a very weird American thing. But I want to start
with a premise. Why did the founding fathers establish the
electrical College? Because the founding fathers thought that the electorate,
the normal people, the people to vote, are too stupid
to actually elect the president. Also, it was a Senate
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we were too stupid to elect. But that became the
popular vote. The only non popular vote that exists now
is the presidency so it's way different from the popular vote,
and it really is very important in the way presidential
politics are running campaigns as of right now. For example,
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both Trump and Bush lost the popular vote when they ran,
yet won the presidency because of the Electoral College. Now
Democrats are charging the system favors Republicans may under the
circumstances now and argue we should just elect presidents because
(15:02):
we should have a popular election because people vote and
the majority decides who's president.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No chance. No chance.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
By the way, this electoral system was set up in
the Constitution by the Framers, and it's going to need
a constitucial amendment to change.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I thought it was going to change after Gore v. Bush.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I really thought that it would change because it was
so screwed up.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Not a chance gotten stronger.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So five hundred and thirty eight members that are the
Electoral College, and what it was set up to do
is to give more power to the states and as
a compromise to avoid having Congress decide the winner, because
that was the real discussion, never people voting, does Congress
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determine or do the states determined who's going to be
the president?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So let's make it to states. The front framers decided.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So each state electors votes for the candidate who won
the popular vote in that state.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
All right, the runner up gets nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So if someone wins, fifty percent plus one gets all
the electoral votes. Fifty one percent gets one hundred percent
of the electoral votes. Except in three states or two Nebraska, Maine,
which is a little bit different. And you've heard that
magic number two hundred and seven electoral votes. Well that's
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the majority of the five hundred and thirty eight possible votes.
So as far as the electors are concerned, its majority.
As far as the number of electures that go to
the electoral college by state, it's a majority. And it's
not a popular election at all. It doesn't exist in
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our country. More weight is given to a single vote
in a small state only because it's the same vote.
So we have forty million people in this state and
we vote for whoever. Rhode Island has twelve people, and
they have exactly the same power in the electoral colleges
we do, which means.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Our vote is far less important.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
For example, you win in California by one vote, you
get all the electorals.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You win by one vote in Rhode Island.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You get all the electorals and look at the different
now contract Now we have more delegates, we have more
members of delegates.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But we don't have more members of the electoral College.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's the problem, and it is well, let me put
it this way. If both candidates are tied with the
number of votes, then it goes to the House, and
the House the sides who's president.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Who would be the president today?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It would be the It would be Trump because the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Have a four vote majority.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
If it were last time around, when Pelosi had was
Speaker and the Democrats had the majority, guess what.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It would be. It would have been the Democratic nominee.
It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It would have been Hillary because the majority was held
by the Democrats at that point.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
So how does it all work?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, the bottom line you get here is that it
is very complicated.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Small states have more power.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The way it works out right now, the Republicans have
more power. Be prepared that if Donald Trump wins.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Which is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Obviously just absolutely may kind of sort of under some
circumstances happen.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Same thing goes for Kamalay Harris. It's a dead heat basically.
One thing.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's a guarantee Kamala Harris will overwhelmingly have the popular
vote that I guarantee by a factor of millions. Now,
we don't know who's going to win the presidency, and
we're probably not going to know until the end.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Of the week.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So tomorrow at least we stop about the election. All
we do is talk about the lawsuits and the attacks.
Hopefully by hopefully.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Within a week, it's all done. It's finished. We're gone,
all right, So we're not going to know.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
However, let's talk about what we do know or I know,
and that is as the craziness that's going around Donald
Trump and how he is not sticking to messaging. The
most important argument he has, the best argument he has
for this election is the economy that blows everything away.
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All the rest of it is the Well, certainly immigration
is important, and certainly reproductive rights are important. But I
would say out of the first ten or if you
go one to ten, one, two, three, four, and five,
the economy and then every else everything else falls down
below that.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So it's a little complicated.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Why, well, the economy is growing, it's generated millions of
news jobs, push wages higher. On the other hand, prices
are sharply higher than when President Biden took office. Housing
has gone insane, interest is gone insane. So which way
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is it going? Well, that's the problem, and that's the point.
This is a razor's edge. It's not that clean, not
even close, because you have two arguments on obviously either side.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
And there is even some contradictions, things.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Like a lot of people believe the economy is in
a god awful mess. You're spending more money. You don't
spend money when the economy is bad. You're spending a
lot more money. Well, the economy is so terrible. Our
wages are horrible, not keeping up with inflation. Not true,
wages are going beyond inflation or going ahead of inflation. However,
(20:58):
even if inflation is under control, even if it were
to zero, what did happen during the Biden years, And
that is inflation hit big, prices went up. And I'll
tell you, you go to a restaurant, even though prices are
not going to go up the next year, you're still
paying thirty percent more than you did.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Two years ago or three years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And that's baked in, that's baked It at resonates when
Trump says, how are you today? Have you been affected
by inflation? Damn right, I have been. And here's the
other thing. And this is based on some models that
have been written by a Yale University economist developed in
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nineteen seventies. What people tend to do is remember the
bad and forget the good very quickly. The memory for
the bad stays a long time, and the me for
the good or.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Experiencing good, not so much.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
For example, and Neil, you've been a recipient of emails,
how many good emails come in as opposed to negative emails?
When people talk about our shows, Yeah I can't hear you.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You don't have microphone on.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, I'm here, Okay, Yeah, we always get a lot
of negative and it doesn't matter because one negative puts
all the.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'm not even arguing that, I'm just saying people, it's
people react negatively far more than they react positively. Or
do you remember negative far more than positive? So Kamala
Harris can talk about how terrific the economy is in
many ways, she's right, the economy is doing great, but
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she can't get away from the fact that inflation has
literally affected virtually every one of us.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And this is why.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
And by the way, it breaks down obviously the Democrat
versus Republican Democrat that we're looking at and going, hey,
we're in pretty good shape. Republicans saying, no, this is horrible.
Why Harris says this is in pretty good shape. That's
the mantra. Of course, Trump is saying the economy is
so horrible, it's going to be a great depression. It's
gonna the America is going to be destroyed, not just
by policy but financially and so put all, although it
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is the strongest single message, So how are we going
to know who prevails? Well, in reality, we're not going
to know on that message. We know the economy is
a factor. We know reproductive rights are a factor. We
know that inflation is a factor. How much, Well, we're
probably not going to know until social science is really
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social scientists really.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Break all of this down. All right, guys, we are done.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We start again tomorrow morning, that day after the election.
Let's see if we can get some news up. Maybe
the proposition some local local races will have been called.
I think so, and that it starts at five am
with Amy and wake up call, and then coming up
from six to nine, all of us get together on
the morning show in the meantime. Oh and a quick
(24:11):
hello to Kono and and that somehow I have to.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Throw in there.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And I don't know why, but I think I'm contractedly
obligated to do.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
To mention Kono that you're even part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Thank you by you're welcome, I mean, I appreciate it, Okay, generous.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I certain forget to put on your calendar this Saturday
to ninth, Bill, Yeah, they are going to be out
at Wild Fork in Laguna Negal from two to five
doing the Fork Report. Bill's going to co host the
entire time with me this Saturday, the ninth, Laguna Negal
at the Wild Fork. We'll be having samples giveaways, including
(24:49):
a Mini Max, Big Green Egg.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It'll be a good time.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, we'll be pitching it for the rest of the week.
I'm sorry I didn't bring it up enough, Neil, come on.
So yeah, we'll do that from now to the rest week.
Catching tomorrow everybody KFI AM six forty live everywhere on
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Speaker 3 (25:05):
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