November 6, 2024 • 25 mins
Donald Trump defeats Kamala Harris to become the next U.S. president. Nathan Hochman wins race for Los Angeles County D.A., beating George Gascón. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about what RFK Jr means for human services and the health industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listen sings KFI AM six forty the bill Handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio f KFI AM six
forty Bill Handle here on a Wednesday morning, November six,
the day after a Tuesday morning, November fifth, wherein we
the people of the United States, elected Donald Trump as
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the next President of the United States. He is number
forty five and forty seven. It's only happened once in
the history of this country Grover Cleveland two terms, non
consecutive terms.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That was in the late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And as I said many times, and now it's going
to be proved out, Donald Trump is a complete outlier president.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We've certainly never had anybody like Donald Trump become president
of United States, and we never will again.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He is unique onto himself, and so big changes are afoot.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
First of all, just who's he is? He is?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I still believe this is a complete megalomaniac who believes
in what he does is absolute gospel.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Even his positions with going to court.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
He has said advocated that anything he does, or anything
any president does as president complete immunity.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
There is absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
No possibility of going against the president, no matter even
a crime.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
That's committed. All right, we start with that, and that
just gives us an idea of who he is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And I'm still not a big fan, but he is
the president, and this is America. And for those people
that are all pissed off, and I know some people
that are reeling, this really was democracy at work, even
to the point where I have a problem with the
electoral College, which I think is a complete croc and
battleground states and all of that. He won the popular
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vote also, and so under any definition, Donald try has
become legitimately present in the United States. All right, So
what is going to happen? Oh boy, what's going to happen.
I'm gonna give you a little bit of history now.
Prior to World War Two, let's go back to nineteen
thirty eight nineteen thirty nine, the United States was purely isolationist.
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We were a country onto ourselves. We didn't want to
do anything. We didn't want foreign wars. We didn't want
American boys at that time fighting in foreign wars. And
there was a huge movement America Firsters. By the way,
one of the leaders was Charles Lindberg, and even Roosevelt,
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who wanted Franklin Roosevelt, then president, who wanted to get
involved in Europe. He knew what Hitler was about. It
didn't matter America first and the only thing that brought
us out was the invasion or the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Then we joined the world in fighting.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well right now, and what we're going to see is
that same movement America first, except the difference is we
have a president who really believes that as a policy.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So what are we going to see?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, you're not going to see America very involved in Ukraine.
As a matter of fact, Donald, Well, here's what we
expect January twentieth, what's going to happen. There'll be a
few phone calls made from the by the president, one
to putin the war in Ukraine will end, He says,
I'm going to make a phone call and that war
is going to end. Another one will be to Netan
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Yahoo and I'm assuming head of Kamas whoever that is.
Now the war in Israel will end. The other thing
is eleven million illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Will be deported day one. Now is any of that
going to happen? Of course not. But is the policy.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Of we're not going to get involved in Ukraine involvement
means backing up Ukraine, sending the arms to US Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yep. I think we're going to pull back.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I mean, that's certainly what President Trump has said and
I believe will do, and he certainly has the power
to do that, especially if Congress becomes Republican.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We know that Senate has already gone Republican.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
They took over the Senate the Republicans a Republican president,
of course, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And if the House goes.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Republican, then it virtually anything the president, anything Donald Trump
wants to do, short of a vetoed or something that
would be vetoed, which is impossible. So you're going to
see big changes in foreign policy. And this is where
Donald Trump spends. This is his main interest. He really
doesn't care much about domestic issues a little bit, but
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compared to foreign affairs, this is where Donald Trump truly
believes in what he is about and is interested in.
So you're going to see the isolationism come in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
NATO. He's not a big fan of NATO at all.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
He believes, and I think it's legitimate, he believes that
the United States is carrying all the weight of NATO.
But he's not excited about it in general, why what
is NATO about. NATO is about protecting Western Europe from Russia.
Donald Trump is I won't say, a big fan of Putin,
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but he certainly looks at Putin very differently than does
the Western world. And of course Putin is thrilled with
Trump being president, so you're going to see a different
move in terms of backing up NATO. This is the
one part where I'm surprised, not that he won because
it was razor thin it could have gone either way.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But he also won the general election. He won excuse me,
I'm coughing a little bit, a little under the weather.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He also won the popular vote, which I didn't think
was going to happen. So the win and those people
that think, oh this is horrible, this is terrible, Yeah,
it may very well be. But hey, this is democracy
at work, folks. He won the vote. It's that simple,
you know. Welcome to America. As I said in the
previous segment, we're going to have a new America. It
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will be an America that will be carved by Donald
Trump in a very different way. Because even when we've
had Republican presidents, we had.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
George Bush, George W. George HW.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Bush. We did Ronald Reagan. It is not like this.
Ronald Reagan was an internationalist. Donald Trump is an isolationist,
and we have not had this kind of thinking in
terms of America. First, we want to be just us.
We don't want to deal with the rest of the world.
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We don't want foreign involved. We certainly don't want foreign wars.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's changed the last time.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, we became a world power and got involved with
the world big time during Teddy Roosevelt's days and then
of course.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
World War Two.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
We own the world and we are about as internationalists
as you could possibly be. And now we're going we're
swinging the other way completely back to the thirties. As
I said, so, I've already talked about our isolationism in
terms of our foreign involvements Ukraine. The President wants us
basically out of Ukraine, dealing with the arms Gaza.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He's gonna make the phone call out Israel.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Sort of a mixed pack because one of the things
about Donald Trump, and this is why he got a
good chunk of the Jewish vote, when he said he's
the most pro Israel president that's ever been he's right,
he has been.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Israel is thrilled.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Netanyahu and certainly the war cabinet and those on the
right that want the complete elimination and destruction of Hamas
they got their win with Donald Trump NATO.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's going to be a problem now.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
On the economic front, Donald Trump believes in tariffs, big time,
he believes. And what is the tariff, Well, it's a
tax or it's an additional cost. We get something from
China which undercuts whatever we can produce the United States.
We're paying workers who sow garments, for example, here in
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the United States, they'll get eighteen bucks an hour, right, Well,
in China they get eighteen cents or a dollar eighty
an hour. And of course the products are much much cheaper,
and they undercut us and have for years to this day.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They do, and they's supposed to be a level playing field.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
We have all kinds of treaties that we need fair
trade that China signs sign we play by the rules.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They don't. And Donald Trump, to his credit, is saying
that's bull. We're not going to have that. Every other
president has allowed that to happen.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Donald Trump is no, he's not going to So what
does he do, Well, you throw one hundred percent tariffs
on there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
China brings over a.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Car an ev a product piece of clothing, and the
distributed here, or the retailer would pay four dollars for it, Well,
guess what, it's going to pay eight dollars for it
because there's one hundred percent tariff on this And to
even the playing field.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I believe in reciprocity.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
If China hits, if China plays a fair game and
they put tariffs on our stuff like crazy, whatever tariff
you put on, we're gonna put on. That's all total reciprocity.
And so I'm not upset about with Donald Trump on
that one, because we are getting screwed and he is
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one of the few presidents. They all talked about it,
he's one of the few that did it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh back to Israel for a moment.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
One of the things, speaking of someone who's pro Israel,
one of the things that Donald.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Trump does have balls.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
He's been the only president who actually moved our embassy
to Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, because all the other
presidents caved and wouldn't do it for fear of offending the
Arab States. And Trump said, hey, Israel's our ally. Their
capital is Jerusalem. We put our embassies in the capital,
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So he really is pro Israel. Now, outside of the
tariff part, we know we're going to be pro business
in a way that no democratic president or administration would
ever be.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So for business for.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
People who have tons of money, Donald Trump's a good
thing because as he talked about the middle class and
he's watching out for the little guy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's a croc. That's just not true. That was simply
a statement made to get the votes.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And there are plenty of people out there who believe
that they are better off or will be better off
under a Trump presidency. I don't think that's going to happen.
It's going to be business. You're gonna see a very
anti unionist presidency. You're gonna see a very pro business presidency.
You're going to see you talk about fossil fuels. The
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man doesn't even believe in climate change. He has said
as part of his campaign, drill, baby, drill, and so
alternative energies for him is no big deal.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
He absolutely believes in fossil fuels.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We're gonna be seeing the We're gonna be seeing that happening.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And then in a couple of very.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Interesting positions that he has taken. And again I'm telling
you that this was for political purposes only. This is
I don't think Donald Trump either has a moral compass,
because I don't believe that at all, or really has
a philosophy outside.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Of what he thinks foreign affairs.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Example, RFK Junior, We're going to talk to Jim Keeney
about that. RFK Junior endorsed Trump. RFK Junior is crazy.
For example, he's going to make a move to get
rid of fluoride. Trump has said that RFK Junior will
have a big, big position in the Trump administration, even
to the point of crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Is that going to happen? You know what?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I don't think so, because even Trump's most conservative advisors
and allies are going to go, come on, guy, you
can't be this nuts conspiracy theory. Just up the the wahoo.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Or yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And then the other one, Elon Musk, Now that was another,
by the way, political move. Elon Musk is going to
be in charge of the cutting of government expenditure. He's
gonna be in charge of winnowing out the fraud, the corruption,
the overspending. Really no, no, the only reason that he
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has that position, And again we don't know what the
position is. Donald Trump is very evasive about it. Yeah,
you'll have some kind of position.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We're gonna have you. We're gonna have you really in charge.
We're gonna listen to you.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You're gonna have a very important position. Nothing of any specificity.
And Elon Musk is, first of all, he's basically nuts,
visionary and nuts. But one thing that Elon must said,
and this nobody else is said, not Trump, certainly, not Harris,
not Joe Biden, not administrations for the past ten fifteen years,
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and that is we have a national debt that's completely
out of control, completely, and both Republicans and Democrats are
adding to that. Didn't matter which party, just borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow,
borrow without stopping. Musk is saying, we have to stop that,
and we're and it's gonna hurt. And the only way
to stop spending is it's going to hurt, especially if
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you're paying down a debt.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
However, how he's gonna do it, I don't know. Is
he gonna do it? I don't know, because I don't
believe he.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Is going to be able to convince the Trump administration
to cut every program out there, including helping business, because
the business doesn't pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That mean some money doesn't roll into the government. And
it's far more important for.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
This administration to have money roll in and keep the
economy reasonably going with happy Camper's American citizens than it
is for us to really tighten our belts. That will
never happen. Trump doesn't believe in that. Harris didn't believe
in that. No administration is believing in that. There used
to be deficit hawks. You know, there used to be
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republic plans who were going, this is crazy, we can't
spend this much money.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That stop.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
With Trump, the deficits are out of control. No one's
even talking about them anymore. All right, Oh man, what
a Wednesday it is, because yesterday was pretty momentous.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Don't you think? Yesterday was the election of won Donald J.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Trump as our forty seventh President of the United States,
and no surprise at all because it was so razor
thin it could have gone either way. I think the
surprise is for me is that he won the popular vote.
I thought he was going to absolutely lose the popular
vote and win the electoral college.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
He won both. You cannot argue.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I don't care how much you dislike Donald Trump, and
I don't care how much you dislike the electoral.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
College like I do. I can't stand the electoral college
in the entire system. Can't argue with a popular win.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Steve Gregory has covered Gascone George Gascone four years.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Steve, Good morning, Good morning Bill.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Okay, a shocker, huh that he lost?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, I don't know, because, and you know, going into
last night, Nathan Hafkman already had about twenty twenty five
points advantage over.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's my point that it was sort of a given.
I don't even know why he pretended that he was
going to win.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, pretty interesting. I think it was telling because I
was reaching out to both camps to do coverage, and
typically I would go spend a couple hours at one
campaign party and then a couple hours at another campaign party.
But Gascon's people didn't even get back to me. We
didn't even know if he was going to have a party,
and then we find out last night he basically went
to the Democratic Party's headquarters in downtown Los Angeles last night,
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so he didn't even have his own party, which I
think was pretty telling to begin with, not only because
I think he knew what was on, you know, kind
of what the cards were going to be, but he
also didn't have that much money. He was having a
tough time raising funds, which was also a telltale sign.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, so when did the rest to maze go out
from his staff?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
How many weeks ago?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I'll tell you something. When I was covering the event
last night in over the Hills, it was a beautiful
courtyard and it was just packed of people, close to
seven hundred people last night, and I was trying to
interview people, just random people that were there to find out,
you know, why they were there to support Hawkman. You
could not swing a stick in that crowd and not
hit a current or former prosecutor. That place was packed
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with employees of the prosecutor's office along with police and deputy.
So there was a lot of support from his you know,
from Gascon's own employees there last night. And I think
a lot of people this morning are to your point,
brushing off their resumes or updating their resumes because he
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says he's going to make some drastic changes on day one,
and I think the way he's going to go he's
going to reverse the radical policies to Gascon implemented on
his day one, and I think that's going to also
include some staff members.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, and when you it's easy to look at how
badly he lost, I mean, that doesn't take a whole
lot of analysis when you look at Prop thirty six
and with a seventy percent vote to simply make crime,
people who commit crimes more responsible, they have to deal
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with the consequences far more. The Gascone era is fair
to say that those days are gone right.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, absolutely, And you got to remember that the reason
that Gascon was sort of swept into office in the
first place was on the coattails of the George Floyd incident.
This is when the progressive movement was really at its
peak in the last last decade or so. And just
like Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, which all had ultra progressive das
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elected into their respective offices, Gascon was an easy shoe
in coming off the heels of that entire incident. Now,
the same holds true for how Hawkman kind of got
into this. He was writing the coattails of this anti
crime wave which swept up La County and the nation
as well. You're going to see a lot of das
losing their jobs just like you did. You know in
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twenty twenty, twenty sixteen, you're going to see this sweeping change,
the pendulum going back the other direction.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, so we're getting back to the concept that bad
guys are bad guys as opposed to some kind of
rehabilitation in their lives or worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So eother crapple like that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, right about the death penalty, and he said, yeah,
the death penalty is on the table, and he says,
but I'm going to address it one by one. And
also he told me that he will be prosecuting juvenile
to commit heinous crimes, where George Gascon completely took that away.
Didn't prosecute one child for an adult related crime like
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murder or any other hains act. But also one thing
is interesting is that he is going to allow DA
start going back and accompanying the victims of crime at
parole hearings.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, I mean it was stunning that he stopped that.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And in the world of George Gascon, a child is
seventeen years old, seventeen years, eleven months.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And twenty six days, that's a child, right.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Right, Yep, and if they were to commit a murder
delple murder, triple murder, they would still get out of
incarceration at twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, isn't that lovely? All right, Steve, thanks for waking up.
I know you were in pretty late.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay. It was a long night, but that's that's what
we do. It was a long night, but that's cool, all.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Take care, Take care by.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Steve's always a good guy when it comes to that.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And you woke him up, and I'm sure he was
miserable when you called him, right, And she's just nodding, Yes,
that's not true. He has a good guy, all right,
And we'll talk after the show. Okay, I love this,
all right.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
One of the things about the Trump win, which I've
talked about, is the fact.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That somehow Robert F.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
K Junior is going to be part of the Trump administration,
or so Trump says.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Certainly RFK does says that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And I think that the guy's nuts, completely nuts. And
Trump said he's gonna have a big part in our
healthcare system, one of them being fluoride. He wants to
get rid of fluoride in our water supply. Jim Keaty,
who of course is with us constantly chief medical officer
for DVD Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach and
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board certified er Guy Jim how nuts is RFK and
that fluoride.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Business, well, I mean, you know, on one hand, you know,
I always look at both sides of things, right. On
one hand, I appreciate the fresh eyes and the opportunity
to reevaluate, you know, things from the base up. On
the other hand, you know, when you look at dentists,
the American Cancer Association, the CDC, World Health, everyone seems
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to agree that that fluoride in the water is overall
a good thing. And when we look at the problems
with fluoride in the water, it's when it's at a
very high level, so you have to be able to
pick through, you know, proportions. Right, very high levels are
actually damaging to your teeth, they're damaging to your bones,
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damaging to your joints, and they're definitely damaging to your
your brain development. But at these low levels, there's really
no significant evidence at all that this fluoride is going
to be a problem. But this plays into the bigger
issue of you know, ever since COVID Medical News has
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reminded me of of what happens during disasters. You know,
I've been to a lot of disasters. And when you
have credibility gaps, information gaps, uncertainty, then what happens is
you get this, You get a reflex where people start
having what we call a cognitive bias. They tend to
believe that the things that con their biases or their
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own internal beliefs, and they tend to reject everything else.
And then with social media and the rapid dissemination of information,
you can't stay on top of it. So somebody who
is thoughtful and slow and looks at something analytically can't
respond fast enough to the rapid dissemination of social media.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
All right, so let me throw it at you this way. Fluoride.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And I was here in the fifties as a very
young kid in Los Angeles when fluoride was introduced into
the water system, and it was a Communist plot.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It was hugely controversial.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, speaking as a medical professional, when you're hearing someone
who may play a very substantial part in the health
system of this country.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Who talks about fluoriyed.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
A link to cancer, diseases, disorders as it is in
our system right now, and the conspiracy theories about COVID,
doesn't that give you somewhat of just you think again,
are you frightened of that?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Because I am well? So I took an ethics course
before med school.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
They don't.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They don't give you those school they should, and in
that ethics course they you know, we actually discuss this
topic fluoride in the water because it hits on personal autonomy,
personal choice, government control versus you know, people trying to
help out the average citizen. So obviously, when when wealthy
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people can afford you know, toothpaste and education on their
to their children about brushing their teeth and going to
a dentist regularly and maybe even getting fluoride treatments, they benefit.
And people who are less educated in poverty may not
spend as much on dental health or or fluorinated toothpaste
or or fluoride rinses. Then those are the people that
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are going to suffer. So you're weighing, you know, government
control in a way or you know, making decisions for
a population versus personal autonomy and choice. So you see
that the Republican Party does tend to lean more on
personal autonomy and choice so this fits the narrative that
I would expect from a more conservative view.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Fair enough. By the way, what's what's ethics? I don't
quite understand that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It's how you make a decision when there is a dilemma,
meaning there's no right or wrong answer, but you want
to make the best impossible answer.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
All right, thank you for helping me understand, because the
entire concept of ethics is foreign to me.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Jim Farandy, We're not next week, right.
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forty Bill Handle here on a Wednesday morning, November six,
the day after a Tuesday morning, November fifth, wherein we
the people of the United States, elected Donald Trump as
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the next President of the United States. He is number
forty five and forty seven. It's only happened once in
the history of this country Grover Cleveland two terms, non
consecutive terms.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
That was in the late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And as I said many times, and now it's going
to be proved out, Donald Trump is a complete outlier president.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We've certainly never had anybody like Donald Trump become president
of United States, and we never will again.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He is unique onto himself, and so big changes are afoot.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
First of all, just who's he is? He is?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I still believe this is a complete megalomaniac who believes
in what he does is absolute gospel.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Even his positions with going to court.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
He has said advocated that anything he does, or anything
any president does as president complete immunity.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
There is absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
No possibility of going against the president, no matter even
a crime.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
That's committed. All right, we start with that, and that
just gives us an idea of who he is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And I'm still not a big fan, but he is
the president, and this is America. And for those people
that are all pissed off, and I know some people
that are reeling, this really was democracy at work, even
to the point where I have a problem with the
electoral College, which I think is a complete croc and
battleground states and all of that. He won the popular
(01:55):
vote also, and so under any definition, Donald try has
become legitimately present in the United States. All right, So
what is going to happen? Oh boy, what's going to happen.
I'm gonna give you a little bit of history now.
Prior to World War Two, let's go back to nineteen
thirty eight nineteen thirty nine, the United States was purely isolationist.
(02:19):
We were a country onto ourselves. We didn't want to
do anything. We didn't want foreign wars. We didn't want
American boys at that time fighting in foreign wars. And
there was a huge movement America Firsters. By the way,
one of the leaders was Charles Lindberg, and even Roosevelt,
(02:40):
who wanted Franklin Roosevelt, then president, who wanted to get
involved in Europe. He knew what Hitler was about. It
didn't matter America first and the only thing that brought
us out was the invasion or the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Then we joined the world in fighting.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well right now, and what we're going to see is
that same movement America first, except the difference is we
have a president who really believes that as a policy.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So what are we going to see?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, you're not going to see America very involved in Ukraine.
As a matter of fact, Donald, Well, here's what we
expect January twentieth, what's going to happen. There'll be a
few phone calls made from the by the president, one
to putin the war in Ukraine will end, He says,
I'm going to make a phone call and that war
is going to end. Another one will be to Netan
(03:33):
Yahoo and I'm assuming head of Kamas whoever that is.
Now the war in Israel will end. The other thing
is eleven million illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Will be deported day one. Now is any of that
going to happen? Of course not. But is the policy.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Of we're not going to get involved in Ukraine involvement
means backing up Ukraine, sending the arms to US Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yep. I think we're going to pull back.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I mean, that's certainly what President Trump has said and
I believe will do, and he certainly has the power
to do that, especially if Congress becomes Republican.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We know that Senate has already gone Republican.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
They took over the Senate the Republicans a Republican president,
of course, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And if the House goes.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Republican, then it virtually anything the president, anything Donald Trump
wants to do, short of a vetoed or something that
would be vetoed, which is impossible. So you're going to
see big changes in foreign policy. And this is where
Donald Trump spends. This is his main interest. He really
doesn't care much about domestic issues a little bit, but
(04:47):
compared to foreign affairs, this is where Donald Trump truly
believes in what he is about and is interested in.
So you're going to see the isolationism come in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
NATO. He's not a big fan of NATO at all.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
He believes, and I think it's legitimate, he believes that
the United States is carrying all the weight of NATO.
But he's not excited about it in general, why what
is NATO about. NATO is about protecting Western Europe from Russia.
Donald Trump is I won't say, a big fan of Putin,
(05:27):
but he certainly looks at Putin very differently than does
the Western world. And of course Putin is thrilled with
Trump being president, so you're going to see a different
move in terms of backing up NATO. This is the
one part where I'm surprised, not that he won because
it was razor thin it could have gone either way.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But he also won the general election. He won excuse me,
I'm coughing a little bit, a little under the weather.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He also won the popular vote, which I didn't think
was going to happen. So the win and those people
that think, oh this is horrible, this is terrible, Yeah,
it may very well be. But hey, this is democracy
at work, folks. He won the vote. It's that simple,
you know. Welcome to America. As I said in the
previous segment, we're going to have a new America. It
(06:20):
will be an America that will be carved by Donald
Trump in a very different way. Because even when we've
had Republican presidents, we had.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
George Bush, George W. George HW.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Bush. We did Ronald Reagan. It is not like this.
Ronald Reagan was an internationalist. Donald Trump is an isolationist,
and we have not had this kind of thinking in
terms of America. First, we want to be just us.
We don't want to deal with the rest of the world.
(06:56):
We don't want foreign involved. We certainly don't want foreign wars.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's changed the last time.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, we became a world power and got involved with
the world big time during Teddy Roosevelt's days and then
of course.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
World War Two.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
We own the world and we are about as internationalists
as you could possibly be. And now we're going we're
swinging the other way completely back to the thirties. As
I said, so, I've already talked about our isolationism in
terms of our foreign involvements Ukraine. The President wants us
basically out of Ukraine, dealing with the arms Gaza.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He's gonna make the phone call out Israel.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Sort of a mixed pack because one of the things
about Donald Trump, and this is why he got a
good chunk of the Jewish vote, when he said he's
the most pro Israel president that's ever been he's right,
he has been.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Israel is thrilled.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Netanyahu and certainly the war cabinet and those on the
right that want the complete elimination and destruction of Hamas
they got their win with Donald Trump NATO.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's going to be a problem now.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
On the economic front, Donald Trump believes in tariffs, big time,
he believes. And what is the tariff, Well, it's a
tax or it's an additional cost. We get something from
China which undercuts whatever we can produce the United States.
We're paying workers who sow garments, for example, here in
(08:38):
the United States, they'll get eighteen bucks an hour, right, Well,
in China they get eighteen cents or a dollar eighty
an hour. And of course the products are much much cheaper,
and they undercut us and have for years to this day.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They do, and they's supposed to be a level playing field.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
We have all kinds of treaties that we need fair
trade that China signs sign we play by the rules.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They don't. And Donald Trump, to his credit, is saying
that's bull. We're not going to have that. Every other
president has allowed that to happen.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Donald Trump is no, he's not going to So what
does he do, Well, you throw one hundred percent tariffs
on there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
China brings over a.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Car an ev a product piece of clothing, and the
distributed here, or the retailer would pay four dollars for it, Well,
guess what, it's going to pay eight dollars for it
because there's one hundred percent tariff on this And to
even the playing field.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I believe in reciprocity.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
If China hits, if China plays a fair game and
they put tariffs on our stuff like crazy, whatever tariff
you put on, we're gonna put on. That's all total reciprocity.
And so I'm not upset about with Donald Trump on
that one, because we are getting screwed and he is
(10:00):
one of the few presidents. They all talked about it,
he's one of the few that did it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Oh back to Israel for a moment.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
One of the things, speaking of someone who's pro Israel,
one of the things that Donald.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Trump does have balls.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
He's been the only president who actually moved our embassy
to Jerusalem, the capital of Israel, because all the other
presidents caved and wouldn't do it for fear of offending the
Arab States. And Trump said, hey, Israel's our ally. Their
capital is Jerusalem. We put our embassies in the capital,
(10:39):
So he really is pro Israel. Now, outside of the
tariff part, we know we're going to be pro business
in a way that no democratic president or administration would
ever be.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So for business for.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
People who have tons of money, Donald Trump's a good
thing because as he talked about the middle class and
he's watching out for the little guy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
That's a croc. That's just not true. That was simply
a statement made to get the votes.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And there are plenty of people out there who believe
that they are better off or will be better off
under a Trump presidency. I don't think that's going to happen.
It's going to be business. You're gonna see a very
anti unionist presidency. You're gonna see a very pro business presidency.
You're going to see you talk about fossil fuels. The
(11:31):
man doesn't even believe in climate change. He has said
as part of his campaign, drill, baby, drill, and so
alternative energies for him is no big deal.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
He absolutely believes in fossil fuels.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We're gonna be seeing the We're gonna be seeing that happening.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And then in a couple of very.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Interesting positions that he has taken. And again I'm telling
you that this was for political purposes only. This is
I don't think Donald Trump either has a moral compass,
because I don't believe that at all, or really has
a philosophy outside.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Of what he thinks foreign affairs.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Example, RFK Junior, We're going to talk to Jim Keeney
about that. RFK Junior endorsed Trump. RFK Junior is crazy.
For example, he's going to make a move to get
rid of fluoride. Trump has said that RFK Junior will
have a big, big position in the Trump administration, even
to the point of crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Is that going to happen? You know what?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I don't think so, because even Trump's most conservative advisors
and allies are going to go, come on, guy, you
can't be this nuts conspiracy theory. Just up the the wahoo.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Or yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And then the other one, Elon Musk, Now that was another,
by the way, political move. Elon Musk is going to
be in charge of the cutting of government expenditure. He's
gonna be in charge of winnowing out the fraud, the corruption,
the overspending. Really no, no, the only reason that he
(13:14):
has that position, And again we don't know what the
position is. Donald Trump is very evasive about it. Yeah,
you'll have some kind of position.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We're gonna have you. We're gonna have you really in charge.
We're gonna listen to you.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You're gonna have a very important position. Nothing of any specificity.
And Elon Musk is, first of all, he's basically nuts,
visionary and nuts. But one thing that Elon must said,
and this nobody else is said, not Trump, certainly, not Harris,
not Joe Biden, not administrations for the past ten fifteen years,
(13:48):
and that is we have a national debt that's completely
out of control, completely, and both Republicans and Democrats are
adding to that. Didn't matter which party, just borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow,
borrow without stopping. Musk is saying, we have to stop that,
and we're and it's gonna hurt. And the only way
to stop spending is it's going to hurt, especially if
(14:12):
you're paying down a debt.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
However, how he's gonna do it, I don't know. Is
he gonna do it? I don't know, because I don't
believe he.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Is going to be able to convince the Trump administration
to cut every program out there, including helping business, because
the business doesn't pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That mean some money doesn't roll into the government. And
it's far more important for.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
This administration to have money roll in and keep the
economy reasonably going with happy Camper's American citizens than it
is for us to really tighten our belts. That will
never happen. Trump doesn't believe in that. Harris didn't believe
in that. No administration is believing in that. There used
to be deficit hawks. You know, there used to be
(14:59):
republic plans who were going, this is crazy, we can't
spend this much money.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That stop.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
With Trump, the deficits are out of control. No one's
even talking about them anymore. All right, Oh man, what
a Wednesday it is, because yesterday was pretty momentous.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Don't you think? Yesterday was the election of won Donald J.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Trump as our forty seventh President of the United States,
and no surprise at all because it was so razor
thin it could have gone either way. I think the
surprise is for me is that he won the popular vote.
I thought he was going to absolutely lose the popular
vote and win the electoral college.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
He won both. You cannot argue.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I don't care how much you dislike Donald Trump, and
I don't care how much you dislike the electoral.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
College like I do. I can't stand the electoral college
in the entire system. Can't argue with a popular win.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Steve Gregory has covered Gascone George Gascone four years.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Steve, Good morning, Good morning Bill.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Okay, a shocker, huh that he lost?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Well, I don't know, because, and you know, going into
last night, Nathan Hafkman already had about twenty twenty five
points advantage over.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's my point that it was sort of a given.
I don't even know why he pretended that he was
going to win.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, pretty interesting. I think it was telling because I
was reaching out to both camps to do coverage, and
typically I would go spend a couple hours at one
campaign party and then a couple hours at another campaign party.
But Gascon's people didn't even get back to me. We
didn't even know if he was going to have a party,
and then we find out last night he basically went
to the Democratic Party's headquarters in downtown Los Angeles last night,
(16:44):
so he didn't even have his own party, which I
think was pretty telling to begin with, not only because
I think he knew what was on, you know, kind
of what the cards were going to be, but he
also didn't have that much money. He was having a
tough time raising funds, which was also a telltale sign.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, so when did the rest to maze go out
from his staff?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
How many weeks ago?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I'll tell you something. When I was covering the event
last night in over the Hills, it was a beautiful
courtyard and it was just packed of people, close to
seven hundred people last night, and I was trying to
interview people, just random people that were there to find out,
you know, why they were there to support Hawkman. You
could not swing a stick in that crowd and not
hit a current or former prosecutor. That place was packed
(17:28):
with employees of the prosecutor's office along with police and deputy.
So there was a lot of support from his you know,
from Gascon's own employees there last night. And I think
a lot of people this morning are to your point,
brushing off their resumes or updating their resumes because he
(17:49):
says he's going to make some drastic changes on day one,
and I think the way he's going to go he's
going to reverse the radical policies to Gascon implemented on
his day one, and I think that's going to also
include some staff members.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, and when you it's easy to look at how
badly he lost, I mean, that doesn't take a whole
lot of analysis when you look at Prop thirty six
and with a seventy percent vote to simply make crime,
people who commit crimes more responsible, they have to deal
(18:24):
with the consequences far more. The Gascone era is fair
to say that those days are gone right.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, absolutely, And you got to remember that the reason
that Gascon was sort of swept into office in the
first place was on the coattails of the George Floyd incident.
This is when the progressive movement was really at its
peak in the last last decade or so. And just
like Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, which all had ultra progressive das
(18:50):
elected into their respective offices, Gascon was an easy shoe
in coming off the heels of that entire incident. Now,
the same holds true for how Hawkman kind of got
into this. He was writing the coattails of this anti
crime wave which swept up La County and the nation
as well. You're going to see a lot of das
losing their jobs just like you did. You know in
(19:13):
twenty twenty, twenty sixteen, you're going to see this sweeping change,
the pendulum going back the other direction.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, so we're getting back to the concept that bad
guys are bad guys as opposed to some kind of
rehabilitation in their lives or worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So eother crapple like that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, right about the death penalty, and he said, yeah,
the death penalty is on the table, and he says,
but I'm going to address it one by one. And
also he told me that he will be prosecuting juvenile
to commit heinous crimes, where George Gascon completely took that away.
Didn't prosecute one child for an adult related crime like
(19:54):
murder or any other hains act. But also one thing
is interesting is that he is going to allow DA
start going back and accompanying the victims of crime at
parole hearings.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, I mean it was stunning that he stopped that.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And in the world of George Gascon, a child is
seventeen years old, seventeen years, eleven months.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And twenty six days, that's a child, right.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Right, Yep, and if they were to commit a murder
delple murder, triple murder, they would still get out of
incarceration at twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, isn't that lovely? All right, Steve, thanks for waking up.
I know you were in pretty late.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay. It was a long night, but that's that's what
we do. It was a long night, but that's cool, all.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Right, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Take care, Take care by.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Steve's always a good guy when it comes to that.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And you woke him up, and I'm sure he was
miserable when you called him, right, And she's just nodding, Yes,
that's not true. He has a good guy, all right,
And we'll talk after the show. Okay, I love this,
all right.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
One of the things about the Trump win, which I've
talked about, is the fact.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That somehow Robert F.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
K Junior is going to be part of the Trump administration,
or so Trump says.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Certainly RFK does says that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
And I think that the guy's nuts, completely nuts. And
Trump said he's gonna have a big part in our
healthcare system, one of them being fluoride. He wants to
get rid of fluoride in our water supply. Jim Keaty,
who of course is with us constantly chief medical officer
for DVD Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach and
(21:30):
board certified er Guy Jim how nuts is RFK and
that fluoride.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Business, well, I mean, you know, on one hand, you know,
I always look at both sides of things, right. On
one hand, I appreciate the fresh eyes and the opportunity
to reevaluate, you know, things from the base up. On
the other hand, you know, when you look at dentists,
the American Cancer Association, the CDC, World Health, everyone seems
(21:58):
to agree that that fluoride in the water is overall
a good thing. And when we look at the problems
with fluoride in the water, it's when it's at a
very high level, so you have to be able to
pick through, you know, proportions. Right, very high levels are
actually damaging to your teeth, they're damaging to your bones,
(22:18):
damaging to your joints, and they're definitely damaging to your
your brain development. But at these low levels, there's really
no significant evidence at all that this fluoride is going
to be a problem. But this plays into the bigger
issue of you know, ever since COVID Medical News has
(22:39):
reminded me of of what happens during disasters. You know,
I've been to a lot of disasters. And when you
have credibility gaps, information gaps, uncertainty, then what happens is
you get this, You get a reflex where people start
having what we call a cognitive bias. They tend to
believe that the things that con their biases or their
(23:01):
own internal beliefs, and they tend to reject everything else.
And then with social media and the rapid dissemination of information,
you can't stay on top of it. So somebody who
is thoughtful and slow and looks at something analytically can't
respond fast enough to the rapid dissemination of social media.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
All right, so let me throw it at you this way. Fluoride.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And I was here in the fifties as a very
young kid in Los Angeles when fluoride was introduced into
the water system, and it was a Communist plot.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It was hugely controversial.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, speaking as a medical professional, when you're hearing someone
who may play a very substantial part in the health
system of this country.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Who talks about fluoriyed.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
A link to cancer, diseases, disorders as it is in
our system right now, and the conspiracy theories about COVID,
doesn't that give you somewhat of just you think again,
are you frightened of that?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Because I am well? So I took an ethics course
before med school.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
They don't.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They don't give you those school they should, and in
that ethics course they you know, we actually discuss this
topic fluoride in the water because it hits on personal autonomy,
personal choice, government control versus you know, people trying to
help out the average citizen. So obviously, when when wealthy
(24:26):
people can afford you know, toothpaste and education on their
to their children about brushing their teeth and going to
a dentist regularly and maybe even getting fluoride treatments, they benefit.
And people who are less educated in poverty may not
spend as much on dental health or or fluorinated toothpaste
or or fluoride rinses. Then those are the people that
(24:46):
are going to suffer. So you're weighing, you know, government
control in a way or you know, making decisions for
a population versus personal autonomy and choice. So you see
that the Republican Party does tend to lean more on
personal autonomy and choice so this fits the narrative that
I would expect from a more conservative view.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Fair enough. By the way, what's what's ethics? I don't
quite understand that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It's how you make a decision when there is a dilemma,
meaning there's no right or wrong answer, but you want
to make the best impossible answer.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
All right, thank you for helping me understand, because the
entire concept of ethics is foreign to me.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Jim Farandy, We're not next week, right.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
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