November 19, 2024 • 24 mins
Trump confirms his deportation strategy will include military if necessary. LAUSD vows to protect immigrant and LGBTQ students during Trump’s term. Co-host of the “This Week in Space” podcast Rod Pyle joins the show to talk about NASA having concerns about the International Space Station leak and SpaceX Starship flight 6 set to launch later today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:44):
Be a good time, all right. Now. A story that
broke yesterday big time is President elect Trump's announcement that
he is going to bring in US military, actually military assets.
Don't quite understand what that is. It's sort of a
morphous to deport mass numbers of illegal immigrants in this country.
(02:07):
It's a little deeper than that because, first of all,
using the US military. Can a president do that with
a military in the country. Yeah, if there is certain
kinds of national emergencies, that's going to be the issue.
Is illegal immigration? Are immigrants being here? Is that a
national emergency? Much like an earthquake or an invasion. He's
calling it an invasion, but is it an invasion like
(02:29):
an armed invasion? So that one's up in the air
and then you've got practicalities. You know, the ACLU is
going to sue instantly. Of course, another immigrant race group.
Then you have just a practicality. How do you deport
instantly eleven million people? Well, there are Mike Johnson, for example,
people who are defending Donald Trump and his argument, and
(02:50):
you know there are illegal immigrants. A lot of people
think illegal immigrants should not be here. I happen to
be one of them. Now, what do you do with
eleven or twelve million people? He is the president is
talking President elect's talking about instant deportation. Well, of course
that's not going to happen. So they're going to start
with the deporting the criminals, the convicted criminals. Absolutely, no
one's going to argue with that. And right now I
(03:13):
think there are what six hundred and twenty six thousand
pending criminal charges or convictions that are now on the books.
The problem is the millions and millions who have followed
US law badly. As it is, the US law is
kind of I would say a lot of people have
a problem with him, and they're asking for asylum. Once
(03:36):
they ask for asylum at the border, or even crossing
the border illegally, then the law allows them time to
go in front of an immigration judge who will decide
whether asylum should be granted ninety nine point nine percent
will not be granted asylum. The loophole is all you
(03:57):
have to do is ask for it, and especially in
the United States, asked for it and you bought yourself
a hearing. The backlog for those hearings is I think
I don't know one point three million people that are
in line right now for those hearings, and there certainly
(04:20):
aren't enough immigration judges out there. So it's a practicality.
Mike Johnson said, first we start with the criminals convictions,
and by the way, we're talking about convicted criminals, how
about pending charges. If someone has been arrested for a charge,
has asked for asylum, and then there's arrested in terms
(04:42):
of you know, whatever violation, presumed innocent, not if you're
an illegal immigrant. By the way, the United States has
all the authority in the world to deport anybody who
is illegal in this country. But it's a little more
complicated than that because President Electrump has advocated and pushed
(05:03):
for separation of families. If you're illegal, you're illegal, and
you can't separate kids who are legal from their parents
because children are born here of illegal parents. President Trump
wants to get rid of birthright, which means if you're
born here, you're automatically a citizen. So someone used to
be immigration. There actually used to be immigration what's the
(05:23):
word tourism, where folks who were illegal would come to
the United States just to have a baby. That kid's
an American citizen. And it used to be where just
on the basis of that, family members would be allowed
to stay and go for immigration status. That doesn't happen
anymore now. The government says, let's say someone comes over illegally,
(05:43):
a woman who's pregnant, baby's born in the United States,
American citizen, and she says, someone has to take care
of my child, and the government said, flying you can
take your kid with you. If not, you can leave
your child here. It can be a ward of the county,
award of the state, and we'll take care of it
because we have no choice as an American citizen. But
you're never coming back, as we're deporting you, So that
(06:05):
has sort of disappeared. It's a lot of complicated aspects
of this involved, and that is how do you do
it practically? How far do you go? Do you separate families?
For example, do you handle men different than women, families
different than non families, Individuals in their twenties, for example,
(06:27):
men in their twenties, do you handle them differently? Which
they have been? There are huge levels of this and
all we know down we know now is day one.
I absolutely believe that President Trump, at that point it
will be President Trump is going to in fact honor
his commitment to start the deportation process for millions. Well,
(06:52):
it's going to be hundreds of thousands practically speaking of
illegal immigrants, and the battles, the legal battles will just
start all right now. LA Unified School District, which is
one of the most liberal school districts in the country.
And this is where I went to school. So not
only do I refer it, refer to it as a
(07:13):
bastion of very liberal thinking welcome to California, but also
because I went there, I have a pretty good grip
on what it was like what it is now. So
bracing for the new administration, the LA School Board is
moving very quickly to reaffirm the school district, the school
(07:34):
system as a sanctuary for immigrants and sanctuary for the
LGBTQ plus community, and to even propose a new high
school course, mandatory high school course, the dealing with current
political events read what's going to happen with the Trump administration?
Jackie Goldberg, who is president of the board, and she's retiring.
(07:56):
This was her last meeting. This happened last two day.
We're not going to be running in fear. She was
talking of Trump. We're going to fight you every inch
of the way. So there are four resolutions. One reaffirm
our commitment to immigrants, students, families, and staff. But it's
already there, no no. This one updates existing policy to
(08:19):
enforce quote respectful treatment of all persons and to include
gender identity and gender expression. The resolution describes the presidential
race as resulting. Let me tell you how political this
is getting. This is war being declared against the Trump
(08:39):
administration before it even comes into being. So the resolution
of the LA Unified School Board that the presidential race
resulted in the election of the candidate who campaigned on
an anti immigrant, anti LGBTQ agenda. And this is well,
we know that the new administration is going to war
(09:03):
against California. It's that simple. The lines were drawn during
the election. Trump hates California, hates California's liberal politics. California
Newsome legislature hates Trump and the administration. LA Unified is
firmly on the We hate Trump and we're going to
(09:24):
do everything to make sure that his policies don't affect
or affect us to the least amount possible. Now, one
of the things is illegal immigrants who are going to school.
And clearly the overreaching or one overreaching concept of the
Trump administration is to deal with the illegal immigration and
(09:46):
to minimize it deported legal immigrants. Let's start with public schools,
by law, are required to enroll any student within their jurisdiction,
doesn't matter legal or illegal. California, you can't even ask
if a student is legal or illegal in public school.
(10:08):
So we don't know the number. We have absolutely no idea.
I'm assuming it's pretty high. I'm assuming it's probably higher
than virtually any place else in the country. There may
be some along the border that are higher, but as
far as size is concerned, LA Unified is the second
(10:29):
largest school district in the country after New York. So
you've got this position of LA Unified saying we're straight
out going to war. We're going to do everything we
can on this issue. Trump wants to in school board policies,
for example, that limit the ability of school staff to
notify parents if their child changes gender, identity or pronouns
(10:52):
at school. Now, this one is kind of interesting because
again you've got the restroom wars that are happening, and
you have this one notification of parents. If the school
discovers or notes that the kid is using a pronoun Charles,
becomes a she wants to be called Charlie, and or
(11:12):
is trance straight out identifies as a woman, or somehow
is undergoing any procedure, and the Trump administration says, and
other I would argue, conservative elements say the school board
should notify the parents. Here's a question I've always asked
about that. How does a parent forget about the law,
(11:35):
forget about the issues, forget them out the morality. This
is just a practical question. How does a kid identify
as the opposite sex, especially going through some kind of
a transitioning stage and the parents don't know. I mean,
how often does that happen? Is this a bigger deal
(11:58):
than it actually is? Is it so small that it
really shouldn't be that huge a deal. By the way,
I have mixed feelings about that I think there is
such a thing as privacy. We know that there's laws
that says parents can't be told if school knows that
a child's undergoing an abortion, for example, a sixteen year
(12:19):
old high school student, the parents can't be told. If
the high school student wants an aspirin, the parents must
be told. The school is not allowed to give literally
ibuprofen or an aspirin. I mean, it's just so screwed up.
But also the school district just talk about talking about
mandatory classes, the honoring LBGDQ and well gay as well
(12:47):
as I wouldn't say honoring, accepting and dealing with illegal
immigrant kids as well as the gay community in a
way that supports their position. Matter of fact, Goldberg said
that all these resolutions, there were four of them along
the same ilk to the illegal immigrant kids families and
(13:10):
the gay the gay kids and their families, she said,
we have your back. We're going to do everything we
can to protect you. So, as I said earlier, this
is just the beginning of the war. Over the next
few years. The lawsuits are already being prepared, and as
(13:33):
soon as the administration comes into being, you're going to
see some and I completely believe Donald Trump, because this
guy does what he says. He is going to issue
those directives day one, and the lawsuits will be filed
day one, March twentieth, March twentieth will be excused me
January twentieth and January twenty and twenty one. Okay, by
(13:57):
the way, do you know why I brought up March?
You think it was just a mistake, as I always do.
Is that used to be when a president was inaugurated?
Did you know that in March?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I thought it was an IDEs of March?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Right, there's also an IDEs of March. But that's sad.
I throw that that. That's me worming my way out
of mistakes. But that happened to be true. Why I'd
be at it all bit late, I don't know. And
that's why they changed it to beginning of January. The
election would take place in November, and the following March
(14:32):
the new president would be sworn in. So that changed
big time. I don't know when that changed. It was
I think at the beginning of the last century. All Right.
Rod Pyle is with us this morning. He's co host
of This Week in Space, the podcast on the iHeart
app also his website which you want to go to
(14:52):
because it's full of great stuff is pilebooks dot com.
P y l e Books dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Rod, good morning, how are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I am okay, and I frankly don't care how you are,
so I want to ask you a couple of things.
One of them is a story that I did yesterday
about the space station, the ISS International Space Station and
the leak in that Russian module. Has it reached the
(15:25):
point where now NASA astronauts have to train to hold
their breadths for a few weeks at a time.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It hasn't yet, but you covered it really well yesterday.
You know, the space station's almost twenty five years old.
There's some discussion going on about, oh why, mostly in
the public, why can't we save it? Why can't we
have it up there longer? This is a good reason why.
This shows us why it's aging out. It's stressed. The
astronauts spend almost half their time maintaining it instead of
(15:53):
doing the.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Kind of work that they're originally supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
And as you discussed yesterday, you know these Russian opponents
had problems now in particular this part which is called
and I'll probably mangle. This Zevesdya is the old life
support module. This thing was originally built in the eighties
to be a backup and replacement piece for Mere two,
(16:17):
which was going to be a Soviet space station. So
at Union Falls, we don't want the Russian technology to
fall into the hands of bad guys, and we wanted
to try and engage the Yelton government, so we say, hey,
we're building a space station anyway, let us buy some
of your hardware and we'll fly it. So we did
that originally with the power propulsion module, which has been
(16:38):
okay mostly and then this piece, the life support module,
and you know, it was built a long time ago,
so it's aging.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay. A couple questions, is it at the end of
its expected lifespan.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
So the Russian Space ationcy in US Space Agtion see
NASA have been discussing that, you might say, arguing about that,
and they both decided at the end of the day, okay,
we got to each bring in a bunch of engineers
to talk about this to figure it out. It seems
to be that the Russian modules leaking along its wells,
which is not good because that means that there could
(17:17):
be that catastrophic structural failure talked about yesterday. There's another
problem you mentioned yesterday about the micro vibrations. There's also
been instance your every time a spaceship, one of the
cargo ships or passenger ships from either Russ or the
US dock with the space station, that creates some stress
and vibration. But also a couple of years ago a
(17:39):
Russian module went up docked and suddenly the thruster started
firing and the whole thing spun for about forty minutes,
and that torked the hell out of it. So there's
a lot of stuff that stresses this thing to add
to the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All Right, one last question about the space station, and
then we're going to move over after the break and
talk about big SpaceX news going on, and that is
is the space station at this point the information, the experiments,
the science so valuable that we're getting from the ISS
(18:11):
that is almost worth putting up another one. Or is
that just impossible?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No, it's not impossible, but it won't be like this one.
NASA has let out contracts with Blue Origin, Jeff Bezos's company,
and a number of others, including one called Voyager, to
build private space stations on a cooperative basis, so that
these suppliers have.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Skin in the game. And the idea is some of.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Those will be free flyers, some of those will go
up and dock with the ISS before it is deorbited
in around twenty thirty, and then they'll become separated, so
we'll have private space stations that are smaller doing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
The same kind of work, but they'll be brand new understood.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Okay, that makes sense. So the science is still very
valuables going on in lower thir orbit.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, especially I think bioscientists, because they've discovered things like
you can grow retinism zero G and you can't do
it on the ground. And there's a lot of my
body parts I want to replace before I get too
much older, So I'm all for it personally.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, big doings today with space X on a couple
of levels. First of all, President elect Trump is going
to be there, and let's talk about what's happening, because
you know, as crazy as Elon Musk is, and we
all know he is, this is visionary stuff what he's
done with SpaceX. So what's the next chapter here?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So this is a company came out of the blue,
really starting around two thousand and eight, two thousand and
nine and has literally taken over more than half the
global launch market just as one outfit. But of course
the big bird, as you're alluding to, is this starship,
which is twice as powerful lift off as a Saturn five,
almost four hundred feet tall, and this today is opposed
(20:00):
to be the sixth test flight of this. It's still suborbital.
So what they're planning to do is launch between two
and two thirty our time, and you can see it
streamed online on SpaceX, inciderspace dot com, variety of places.
It's going to make a big suborbital pop. So the
top stage, which is the starship, which is the part
that eventually transport people to the Moon and beyond, we hope,
(20:23):
will actually come down hover briefly over the Indian Ocean
to prove that they can actually stop near a landing
barge or however they decide to land the upper stage
and then PLoP in the water might be recovered. The
big thag of Corus is the first stage, which is
this massive thirty three engine booster. Will we hope, as
they did in their last test flight in October, return
(20:45):
to the launch tower and settle down and be recovered
by this device they called chopsticks. I didn't think they
could do it, and I'm a believer in SpaceX with you,
I think Muscas kind of nuts, but I wasn't confident
in them doing it the first time. I thought they're
going to wreck their launch pad.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
They didn't. It's set down perfectly as you saw.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Hey, now, the cost of putting this together, I mean,
this is not the original Falcon, which was that small
little thing. The cost of producing one of these has
to be astronomical, and they've already put up six Is
the government subsidizing this or is this out of must pocket?
To this point, it's both.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
So Musk has a fair amount of money in it.
NASA has paid him a lot of money because they're
trying to develop this particular rocket, the upper stage of
it to also be their first lunar lander for the
Artemis program. So there's going to be I think three
people up in the very tip of the nose, hopefully
somewhere in the late twenty twenties. We don't know when
(21:47):
because they keep changing the date. Landing this thing on
its bottom end on the Moon, which is kind of
like trying to land a semi truck on its tailgate
as you're looking over your shoulder. So it's an adasis plan.
That's why he's got to pick up the pace on
these tests. But one of the reasons has taken longer.
It's been about eight years since they announced this project,
(22:07):
which is nothing in NASA time, but by SpaceX time,
that's slow. One of the reasons that takes so long
is the way he put together his plant down in
South Texas.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're building these things on an assembly.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Line and they can crank one out in a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's extraordinary, to say the least. And now is there
anybody else, any other space manufacturer rocket manufacturer, And there's
several out there that are either catching up with him
or able to cannibalize least some of the market that
he's taken over.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
So there's a number of semi autonomous companies in China,
and I say semi because there's always military involve but
over there that have basically copied the technology verbatim, and
they're trying to do the same thing on a smaller scale.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
None ever really succeeded yet. In the US.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
The only real competitor at this point is Blue Origin,
which is Jeff Bezos's company. They've got a rocket to
called the New Glen. It's supposed to launch later this
year early next year. It roughly rivals the size and
power of what Starship could put up a little bit less,
and we think it's going to be reusable, but we
haven't seen it yet. And it's interesting because Blue Orange
(23:19):
is actually two years older than SpaceX, but we keep
seeing stuff go into their factory and not coming out
the back end. So it'll be great when they finally
get a flight because competition is good.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Hey, are they still doing the tourism business with Blue
Horizon doing you know, thirty seconds in space Enjoy yourself.
It's basically a fast elevator ride. And yeah, you know
the three days that SpaceX puts you up. That's still
going on.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So SpaceX does do some private flights, but they cost
fifty to sixty million per seats, so they're expensive. Blue
Origin is still doing their suborbital rocket hops. You get
about six minutes of waitlessness. I think they're set to
put an other one up in December. It's the first
one they've done in a while. And as you remember,
Waves Shattner famously flew on there, so they are.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Still doing that.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But I suspect once they get their big rocket up
that their tourist business will probably slow down because that
was really just kind of a proving ground for them.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I think.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
All right, Rod, always great information. This week in space
is the podcast on the iHeart app. He's a co
host of it, and then the website which is absolutely
worth going to, and that's pilebooks dot com, p y
l Ebooks dot com. Rod, we'll talk again.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Thank you, Thanks, take care.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah.
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And there on road and we're kicking off pastathon, and
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Okay, So that's a Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'll have some swag too, some four quock stuff, some
cutting boards.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Be a good time, all right. Now. A story that
broke yesterday big time is President elect Trump's announcement that
he is going to bring in US military, actually military assets.
Don't quite understand what that is. It's sort of a
morphous to deport mass numbers of illegal immigrants in this country.
(02:07):
It's a little deeper than that because, first of all,
using the US military. Can a president do that with
a military in the country. Yeah, if there is certain
kinds of national emergencies, that's going to be the issue.
Is illegal immigration? Are immigrants being here? Is that a
national emergency? Much like an earthquake or an invasion. He's
calling it an invasion, but is it an invasion like
(02:29):
an armed invasion? So that one's up in the air
and then you've got practicalities. You know, the ACLU is
going to sue instantly. Of course, another immigrant race group.
Then you have just a practicality. How do you deport
instantly eleven million people? Well, there are Mike Johnson, for example,
people who are defending Donald Trump and his argument, and
(02:50):
you know there are illegal immigrants. A lot of people
think illegal immigrants should not be here. I happen to
be one of them. Now, what do you do with
eleven or twelve million people? He is the president is
talking President elect's talking about instant deportation. Well, of course
that's not going to happen. So they're going to start
with the deporting the criminals, the convicted criminals. Absolutely, no
one's going to argue with that. And right now I
(03:13):
think there are what six hundred and twenty six thousand
pending criminal charges or convictions that are now on the books.
The problem is the millions and millions who have followed
US law badly. As it is, the US law is
kind of I would say a lot of people have
a problem with him, and they're asking for asylum. Once
(03:36):
they ask for asylum at the border, or even crossing
the border illegally, then the law allows them time to
go in front of an immigration judge who will decide
whether asylum should be granted ninety nine point nine percent
will not be granted asylum. The loophole is all you
(03:57):
have to do is ask for it, and especially in
the United States, asked for it and you bought yourself
a hearing. The backlog for those hearings is I think
I don't know one point three million people that are
in line right now for those hearings, and there certainly
(04:20):
aren't enough immigration judges out there. So it's a practicality.
Mike Johnson said, first we start with the criminals convictions,
and by the way, we're talking about convicted criminals, how
about pending charges. If someone has been arrested for a charge,
has asked for asylum, and then there's arrested in terms
(04:42):
of you know, whatever violation, presumed innocent, not if you're
an illegal immigrant. By the way, the United States has
all the authority in the world to deport anybody who
is illegal in this country. But it's a little more
complicated than that because President Electrump has advocated and pushed
(05:03):
for separation of families. If you're illegal, you're illegal, and
you can't separate kids who are legal from their parents
because children are born here of illegal parents. President Trump
wants to get rid of birthright, which means if you're
born here, you're automatically a citizen. So someone used to
be immigration. There actually used to be immigration what's the
(05:23):
word tourism, where folks who were illegal would come to
the United States just to have a baby. That kid's
an American citizen. And it used to be where just
on the basis of that, family members would be allowed
to stay and go for immigration status. That doesn't happen
anymore now. The government says, let's say someone comes over illegally,
(05:43):
a woman who's pregnant, baby's born in the United States,
American citizen, and she says, someone has to take care
of my child, and the government said, flying you can
take your kid with you. If not, you can leave
your child here. It can be a ward of the county,
award of the state, and we'll take care of it
because we have no choice as an American citizen. But
you're never coming back, as we're deporting you, So that
(06:05):
has sort of disappeared. It's a lot of complicated aspects
of this involved, and that is how do you do
it practically? How far do you go? Do you separate families?
For example, do you handle men different than women, families
different than non families, Individuals in their twenties, for example,
(06:27):
men in their twenties, do you handle them differently? Which
they have been? There are huge levels of this and
all we know down we know now is day one.
I absolutely believe that President Trump, at that point it
will be President Trump is going to in fact honor
his commitment to start the deportation process for millions. Well,
(06:52):
it's going to be hundreds of thousands practically speaking of
illegal immigrants, and the battles, the legal battles will just
start all right now. LA Unified School District, which is
one of the most liberal school districts in the country.
And this is where I went to school. So not
only do I refer it, refer to it as a
(07:13):
bastion of very liberal thinking welcome to California, but also
because I went there, I have a pretty good grip
on what it was like what it is now. So
bracing for the new administration, the LA School Board is
moving very quickly to reaffirm the school district, the school
(07:34):
system as a sanctuary for immigrants and sanctuary for the
LGBTQ plus community, and to even propose a new high
school course, mandatory high school course, the dealing with current
political events read what's going to happen with the Trump administration?
Jackie Goldberg, who is president of the board, and she's retiring.
(07:56):
This was her last meeting. This happened last two day.
We're not going to be running in fear. She was
talking of Trump. We're going to fight you every inch
of the way. So there are four resolutions. One reaffirm
our commitment to immigrants, students, families, and staff. But it's
already there, no no. This one updates existing policy to
(08:19):
enforce quote respectful treatment of all persons and to include
gender identity and gender expression. The resolution describes the presidential
race as resulting. Let me tell you how political this
is getting. This is war being declared against the Trump
(08:39):
administration before it even comes into being. So the resolution
of the LA Unified School Board that the presidential race
resulted in the election of the candidate who campaigned on
an anti immigrant, anti LGBTQ agenda. And this is well,
we know that the new administration is going to war
(09:03):
against California. It's that simple. The lines were drawn during
the election. Trump hates California, hates California's liberal politics. California
Newsome legislature hates Trump and the administration. LA Unified is
firmly on the We hate Trump and we're going to
(09:24):
do everything to make sure that his policies don't affect
or affect us to the least amount possible. Now, one
of the things is illegal immigrants who are going to school.
And clearly the overreaching or one overreaching concept of the
Trump administration is to deal with the illegal immigration and
(09:46):
to minimize it deported legal immigrants. Let's start with public schools,
by law, are required to enroll any student within their jurisdiction,
doesn't matter legal or illegal. California, you can't even ask
if a student is legal or illegal in public school.
(10:08):
So we don't know the number. We have absolutely no idea.
I'm assuming it's pretty high. I'm assuming it's probably higher
than virtually any place else in the country. There may
be some along the border that are higher, but as
far as size is concerned, LA Unified is the second
(10:29):
largest school district in the country after New York. So
you've got this position of LA Unified saying we're straight
out going to war. We're going to do everything we
can on this issue. Trump wants to in school board policies,
for example, that limit the ability of school staff to
notify parents if their child changes gender, identity or pronouns
(10:52):
at school. Now, this one is kind of interesting because
again you've got the restroom wars that are happening, and
you have this one notification of parents. If the school
discovers or notes that the kid is using a pronoun Charles,
becomes a she wants to be called Charlie, and or
(11:12):
is trance straight out identifies as a woman, or somehow
is undergoing any procedure, and the Trump administration says, and
other I would argue, conservative elements say the school board
should notify the parents. Here's a question I've always asked
about that. How does a parent forget about the law,
(11:35):
forget about the issues, forget them out the morality. This
is just a practical question. How does a kid identify
as the opposite sex, especially going through some kind of
a transitioning stage and the parents don't know. I mean,
how often does that happen? Is this a bigger deal
(11:58):
than it actually is? Is it so small that it
really shouldn't be that huge a deal. By the way,
I have mixed feelings about that I think there is
such a thing as privacy. We know that there's laws
that says parents can't be told if school knows that
a child's undergoing an abortion, for example, a sixteen year
(12:19):
old high school student, the parents can't be told. If
the high school student wants an aspirin, the parents must
be told. The school is not allowed to give literally
ibuprofen or an aspirin. I mean, it's just so screwed up.
But also the school district just talk about talking about
mandatory classes, the honoring LBGDQ and well gay as well
(12:47):
as I wouldn't say honoring, accepting and dealing with illegal
immigrant kids as well as the gay community in a
way that supports their position. Matter of fact, Goldberg said
that all these resolutions, there were four of them along
the same ilk to the illegal immigrant kids families and
(13:10):
the gay the gay kids and their families, she said,
we have your back. We're going to do everything we
can to protect you. So, as I said earlier, this
is just the beginning of the war. Over the next
few years. The lawsuits are already being prepared, and as
(13:33):
soon as the administration comes into being, you're going to
see some and I completely believe Donald Trump, because this
guy does what he says. He is going to issue
those directives day one, and the lawsuits will be filed
day one, March twentieth, March twentieth will be excused me
January twentieth and January twenty and twenty one. Okay, by
(13:57):
the way, do you know why I brought up March?
You think it was just a mistake, as I always do.
Is that used to be when a president was inaugurated?
Did you know that in March?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I thought it was an IDEs of March?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Right, there's also an IDEs of March. But that's sad.
I throw that that. That's me worming my way out
of mistakes. But that happened to be true. Why I'd
be at it all bit late, I don't know. And
that's why they changed it to beginning of January. The
election would take place in November, and the following March
(14:32):
the new president would be sworn in. So that changed
big time. I don't know when that changed. It was
I think at the beginning of the last century. All Right.
Rod Pyle is with us this morning. He's co host
of This Week in Space, the podcast on the iHeart
app also his website which you want to go to
(14:52):
because it's full of great stuff is pilebooks dot com.
P y l e Books dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Rod, good morning, how are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I am okay, and I frankly don't care how you are,
so I want to ask you a couple of things.
One of them is a story that I did yesterday
about the space station, the ISS International Space Station and
the leak in that Russian module. Has it reached the
(15:25):
point where now NASA astronauts have to train to hold
their breadths for a few weeks at a time.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
It hasn't yet, but you covered it really well yesterday.
You know, the space station's almost twenty five years old.
There's some discussion going on about, oh why, mostly in
the public, why can't we save it? Why can't we
have it up there longer? This is a good reason why.
This shows us why it's aging out. It's stressed. The
astronauts spend almost half their time maintaining it instead of
(15:53):
doing the.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Kind of work that they're originally supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
And as you discussed yesterday, you know these Russian opponents
had problems now in particular this part which is called
and I'll probably mangle. This Zevesdya is the old life
support module. This thing was originally built in the eighties
to be a backup and replacement piece for Mere two,
(16:17):
which was going to be a Soviet space station. So
at Union Falls, we don't want the Russian technology to
fall into the hands of bad guys, and we wanted
to try and engage the Yelton government, so we say, hey,
we're building a space station anyway, let us buy some
of your hardware and we'll fly it. So we did
that originally with the power propulsion module, which has been
(16:38):
okay mostly and then this piece, the life support module,
and you know, it was built a long time ago,
so it's aging.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay. A couple questions, is it at the end of
its expected lifespan.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
So the Russian Space ationcy in US Space Agtion see
NASA have been discussing that, you might say, arguing about that,
and they both decided at the end of the day, okay,
we got to each bring in a bunch of engineers
to talk about this to figure it out. It seems
to be that the Russian modules leaking along its wells,
which is not good because that means that there could
(17:17):
be that catastrophic structural failure talked about yesterday. There's another
problem you mentioned yesterday about the micro vibrations. There's also
been instance your every time a spaceship, one of the
cargo ships or passenger ships from either Russ or the
US dock with the space station, that creates some stress
and vibration. But also a couple of years ago a
(17:39):
Russian module went up docked and suddenly the thruster started
firing and the whole thing spun for about forty minutes,
and that torked the hell out of it. So there's
a lot of stuff that stresses this thing to add
to the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All Right, one last question about the space station, and
then we're going to move over after the break and
talk about big SpaceX news going on, and that is
is the space station at this point the information, the experiments,
the science so valuable that we're getting from the ISS
(18:11):
that is almost worth putting up another one. Or is
that just impossible?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
No, it's not impossible, but it won't be like this one.
NASA has let out contracts with Blue Origin, Jeff Bezos's company,
and a number of others, including one called Voyager, to
build private space stations on a cooperative basis, so that
these suppliers have.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Skin in the game. And the idea is some of.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Those will be free flyers, some of those will go
up and dock with the ISS before it is deorbited
in around twenty thirty, and then they'll become separated, so
we'll have private space stations that are smaller doing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
The same kind of work, but they'll be brand new understood.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Okay, that makes sense. So the science is still very
valuables going on in lower thir orbit.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, especially I think bioscientists, because they've discovered things like
you can grow retinism zero G and you can't do
it on the ground. And there's a lot of my
body parts I want to replace before I get too
much older, So I'm all for it personally.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, big doings today with space X on a couple
of levels. First of all, President elect Trump is going
to be there, and let's talk about what's happening, because
you know, as crazy as Elon Musk is, and we
all know he is, this is visionary stuff what he's
done with SpaceX. So what's the next chapter here?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So this is a company came out of the blue,
really starting around two thousand and eight, two thousand and
nine and has literally taken over more than half the
global launch market just as one outfit. But of course
the big bird, as you're alluding to, is this starship,
which is twice as powerful lift off as a Saturn five,
almost four hundred feet tall, and this today is opposed
(20:00):
to be the sixth test flight of this. It's still suborbital.
So what they're planning to do is launch between two
and two thirty our time, and you can see it
streamed online on SpaceX, inciderspace dot com, variety of places.
It's going to make a big suborbital pop. So the
top stage, which is the starship, which is the part
that eventually transport people to the Moon and beyond, we hope,
(20:23):
will actually come down hover briefly over the Indian Ocean
to prove that they can actually stop near a landing
barge or however they decide to land the upper stage
and then PLoP in the water might be recovered. The
big thag of Corus is the first stage, which is
this massive thirty three engine booster. Will we hope, as
they did in their last test flight in October, return
(20:45):
to the launch tower and settle down and be recovered
by this device they called chopsticks. I didn't think they
could do it, and I'm a believer in SpaceX with you,
I think Muscas kind of nuts, but I wasn't confident
in them doing it the first time. I thought they're
going to wreck their launch pad.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
They didn't. It's set down perfectly as you saw.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Hey, now, the cost of putting this together, I mean,
this is not the original Falcon, which was that small
little thing. The cost of producing one of these has
to be astronomical, and they've already put up six Is
the government subsidizing this or is this out of must pocket?
To this point, it's both.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
So Musk has a fair amount of money in it.
NASA has paid him a lot of money because they're
trying to develop this particular rocket, the upper stage of
it to also be their first lunar lander for the
Artemis program. So there's going to be I think three
people up in the very tip of the nose, hopefully
somewhere in the late twenty twenties. We don't know when
(21:47):
because they keep changing the date. Landing this thing on
its bottom end on the Moon, which is kind of
like trying to land a semi truck on its tailgate
as you're looking over your shoulder. So it's an adasis plan.
That's why he's got to pick up the pace on
these tests. But one of the reasons has taken longer.
It's been about eight years since they announced this project,
(22:07):
which is nothing in NASA time, but by SpaceX time,
that's slow. One of the reasons that takes so long
is the way he put together his plant down in
South Texas.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're building these things on an assembly.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Line and they can crank one out in a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's extraordinary, to say the least. And now is there
anybody else, any other space manufacturer rocket manufacturer, And there's
several out there that are either catching up with him
or able to cannibalize least some of the market that
he's taken over.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
So there's a number of semi autonomous companies in China,
and I say semi because there's always military involve but
over there that have basically copied the technology verbatim, and
they're trying to do the same thing on a smaller scale.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
None ever really succeeded yet. In the US.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
The only real competitor at this point is Blue Origin,
which is Jeff Bezos's company. They've got a rocket to
called the New Glen. It's supposed to launch later this
year early next year. It roughly rivals the size and
power of what Starship could put up a little bit less,
and we think it's going to be reusable, but we
haven't seen it yet. And it's interesting because Blue Orange
(23:19):
is actually two years older than SpaceX, but we keep
seeing stuff go into their factory and not coming out
the back end. So it'll be great when they finally
get a flight because competition is good.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Hey, are they still doing the tourism business with Blue
Horizon doing you know, thirty seconds in space Enjoy yourself.
It's basically a fast elevator ride. And yeah, you know
the three days that SpaceX puts you up. That's still
going on.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So SpaceX does do some private flights, but they cost
fifty to sixty million per seats, so they're expensive. Blue
Origin is still doing their suborbital rocket hops. You get
about six minutes of waitlessness. I think they're set to
put an other one up in December. It's the first
one they've done in a while. And as you remember,
Waves Shattner famously flew on there, so they are.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Still doing that.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But I suspect once they get their big rocket up
that their tourist business will probably slow down because that
was really just kind of a proving ground for them.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I think.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
All right, Rod, always great information. This week in space
is the podcast on the iHeart app. He's a co
host of it, and then the website which is absolutely
worth going to, and that's pilebooks dot com, p y
l Ebooks dot com. Rod, we'll talk again.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Thank you, Thanks, take care.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
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