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so often and so much about the homeless problem in
southern California, and this is a story about Los Angeles
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of course, because LA is sort of the poster child
when it comes to cities and homelessness, et cetera. And
as I've said many times, two things are going to
happen in terms of dealing with homelessness.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
How we're going to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's going to be well three things. It's going to
be incremental, bits and pieces at a time. It's going
to take a long time to do this, and the
money is going to be astronomical the cost of this.
So with that, LA has a one point three billion
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dollar homelessness budget.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Then that's just the City of La.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We're not talking about the state, and we're not talking
about grants and private donations on nonprofits.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Just the city. One point three billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay, that's for fiscal twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four.
Half of it has not been spent, half of it
is not going to be used for the homeless. The controller,
Kenneth Mayha, found that five hundred ninety nine million had
actually been spent, which means all the rest has not.
One hundred and ninety five million was encumbered, which means
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it's already it's categorized. It will be spent, but that
leaves five hundred and thirteen million dollars unspent.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
How is that possible.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That five hundred and thirty three million dollars that's in
the budget. The money is there is not being spent
to help the homeless. Well, here's what is it? Maga
or Mesia, I don't know how to pronounce his name.
He blamed quote a sluggish, inefficient approach, welcome to government,
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lack of staff, lack of resources, programs spreading over multiple
city department council offices, obsolete technology, absence of real time day.
This is where the argument that government sucks and does
not do a good job. I got to tell you
that argument has some legs because here it is. Here
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is a perfect example. Now the encumbered amount, that is
the amount that is already listed as this will this.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Program is going to get it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Will probably be spent, not necessarily eventually. So the money
is there, the unincumbered amount, five hundred and.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Thirty three million dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I can't believe there's that much just unspent. And I
don't know where that money goes to.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Go back to the budget. Does it go back to
the city. Certainly not being spent on the homeless, So
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Also, remember measure Ula, the mansion tax that raised one
hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Dollars so far. Well, there's still thirty.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Million dollars that has been unspent of that. And so
here's what's going on. Unspent Inside Safe. Inside Safe program
is Karen Bass's, her homegrown program.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That she set up.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Inside Safe has forty two million dollars that has not
been spent to purchase the Mayfair Hotel to get people
off the streets.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Of course, the mayor's office said, all this is crap.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
What the mayor has been doing is executing a prudent
and comprehensive strategy I'm quoting now that brought down homelessness
overall for the first time in years and reduced street
homelessness by ten percent. Okay, so homelessness has dropped, has
dropped incrementally. By the way, the office did not dispute
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that five hundred and thirty three million dollars is still
sitting out there that's not being spent.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
This particular wall works, but there are depends on the program,
depends on the money. Sometimes it rolls over to where
the money stays, which is fine, and it's like you're sick,
leave rolling over, your vacation, leave rolling over. Sometimes it's
use it or lose it, and I don't know, and
it's probably a combination of these because this is many,
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many different departments and budgets coming in in offices. So
if it's a use it or lose it situation, that
is a crime right there. It is criminal to let
people on the street when there is money to take
them off the streets and put them into shelters. And frankly,
we don't even have enough temporary shelters, much less mid
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term shelters much less, which is the holy grail, long
term housing, not shelters housing. And that is what's going
to cost, just buckets of money. And and this is
me saying this, I'm giving a recommendation, a little bit
of advice to city hall.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Spend the money you got, Please spend the money. It's
there bill.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I think some months ago the councilwoman, rather Monica Rodriguez,
who I know very well as a friend of mine,
came out and was stating that the money wasn't being
spent and there was no one really watching as to how.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It was spent and so on, and.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's abhorrent that we would have the money and it's
sitting somewhere no one's actually looking and seeing where it's going.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, well that's because it is not yet established.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They're so busy getting the money that the money that
enough of the money or part of the money should
be spent in making getting a comprehensive bureaucracy.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
And now we go back to the argument is government does.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Government does a crap job of setting up programs and
establishing bureaucracies, and it does so that is a case
in point.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
All Right, Now, Matt.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Gates, his nomination fell apart. I mean, I told you
there was no way he was going to be confirmed.
So over the course of eight days, Donald Trump nominates
Matt Gates, one of the most underqualified people that could
ever be the attorney general. One of the things Trump
is doing is he is nominating people that are hugely underqualified.
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You know, for example, Pete Hegzith as the Secretary of Defense.
Excuse me, as is it that Defense secretary?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
If I'm not mistaken, right, and hegseth his entire background.
He would no, he was a verified hero. I mean
he is a man who earned medals legitimately during Afghanistan
and Iraq.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But he was a captain. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
We're done, captain. And he's going to be the Defense secretary.
I think he's going to have a problem with that one.
I think Robert Kennedy that nomination is going to have
a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So here's what.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Trump does is he does not choose people because of
credentials orans or policy.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Are you loyal? That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's simply rewarding loyalty, nothing more, nothing less. Now, all right,
So Gates falls apart amid allegations of sexual misconduct, paying
for sex, and there was that entire issue of the
House Ethics Committee did the investigation, and then as soon
as Gates resigned done, there's no congress person there to investigate.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And so Mike Johnson.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Wouldn't release any report, any investigative reports of which the
Senate wanted, and Johnson said, too bad.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well it came out anyway.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Okay, So it looked like Gates was accused of paying
for sex with a seventeen year old.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Denied it, denied it. Well, they have.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Copies of Venmo payments. Okay, that's a problem. That really
is a problem. So his nomination fell apart because there
were Republican senators at straight out told Trump it's not
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You're not going to get the votes.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So he hangs up the phone with the Republican senators,
calls Gates, Gates says no, thank you, picks up the phone,
calls Bondi and says, you're my new gal. Literally it
was within a couple of hours. So who is Pam Bondy?
Is she going to be confirmed? And she is as
loyal as they come. Here we go number one loyalist.
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You got to be a mega loyalist to get nominated
for any cabinet position.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So who is she?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, she was the Attorney General of Florida and now
she's going to be the Attorney General of the United States. Okay, well,
I gotta tell you there's experience there. An attorney general
of the state has experienced being an attorney general. Much
the same decisions are made, all right, So Trump said,
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I'm true social, I am proud to announce former Attorney
General the Great State of Florida as our next Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Of the United States.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
She was a prosecutor for nearly twenty years and was
very tough on violent criminals. She was chair at the
She was one of the chairs at the America First
Policy Institute.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This was a very considerative.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Think tank set up by former Trump administration staffers.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
She served on the first.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Trump transition team. She has been a longtime fairy solid
Trump ally actually considered during his first term as the AG. Instead,
he went to Jeff Sessions, if you remember that. And
Jeff Sessions resigned because he wouldn't do Trump's bidding. And
then Bill Barr becomes the AG and Bill Barr doesn't
do what Trump wants, and now Bill Barr is one.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Of his biggest detractors.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I mean, Bill Barr does not like Donald Trump, says
he's unfit to be the president.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Boy has that turned.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And so this time around, and I've reported this and
we've talked about it, the Trump team is not going
to make the same mistake putting people who are not
utter complete loyalists take a bullet.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
For the president kind of loyalists.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So she's going to make it, even though she is
one that is a MAGA believer. She spent eighteen years
as a prosecutor and then became the first female attorney
general in twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
This is a good one.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
She received an endorsement from vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
I don't know what that says other than I wouldn't
pucked out that one at all. I would sort of
really bring that down under the radar. But this is
a woman who can be argued at first got I
don't know what kind of jobs she did.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I have no idea. I've not looked at her background.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But if you're talking about the credentials needed to be
considered and probably in this case succeed as the nominee
confirmed as the nominee, then I think she's going to
make it. By the way, there was one issue. In
twenty sixteen, the AP revealed that Bondi had asked Trump
for a donation to her campaign, and the money did
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come through from the Trump Family Foundation. That is a
violation of law. You can't have charities engage in politics.
So that was a problem, and so she returned it
to the foundation. Trump said no, he wouldn't take it back.
The money stayed there. But that is relative to that
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at his very small potatoes. She was also on a
Trump's attorneys during the twenty nineteen impeachment proceedings the first
time when he was impeached for asking Zolensky to do
an investigation of Joe Biden. If you remember that, and
withheld basically threatened, I'm not going to give you arms
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unless you do the investigation.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Zolensky got caught. That was what Trump was.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Is impeached for that one thing, and that was the
first impeachment conviction or the first impeachment move. Okay, so
the Gates thing was just a complete cluster truck.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I don't know what Trump was thinking.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And also the fact that he had her as a
background in the background and was able to.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Immediately mention her name.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Sources inside the Trump organization are telling sources in the
news is that every one of his nominations he has
backups ready to go. Isn't that normal though, No, No,
usually you vet you figure it's going to happen. You
tend not to put in people that are that controversial.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
No, no, usually not.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think he's putting the crazies up front knowing they're
not going to get that.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Could be saying, hey, I took care of you, you
know here.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But here's you raise a very good point here, is
Pam Bondy who the argument she should have been put
up first? Okay, because of her credentials, you know, forget
about the politics of her. I mean, she she meets
the standard of being a super Trump supporter.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Why wouldn't she put up first?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
What Matt Gates is more of a loyalist than is Bondie.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
He went out there and he.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Would jump over cliffs for Donald Trump to the point
where he was so vociferous and his defense of Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No matter what Trump did.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
During his first uh his first term, Gates is hated by.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Everybody on the hill.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
The Republicans hate him, the House hates him, the Senate
on both sides of the aisle hate him.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And why would you do that? Of course Trump do that.
But it doesn't matter. That's exactly it. Loyalty is everything.
That's exactly correct, so that he keeps his loyal But.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Wait, say, but Trump also but Trump also used the phones.
He was calling senators Republican senators and pushing, pushing, pushing
for Gates. That's why I think he really wanted Gates
to be there.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Okay, But from what you've said in the past, anything
he says goes and everybody's gonna do.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, not this one, this one. And we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
If Gates was going to come through, that would tell
us everything about the Republicans in the Senate, and they
drew the line on this one.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Good for them.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
The Love Boat, I don't know if you watch it,
one of the most successful idiotic shows of the nineteen seventies,
and the Love Boat.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
The story of the Love Boat.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Is also one of the most infamous chapters in the
history of this show that I did a segment on
that I cannot will not repeat. Maybe I'll do it
my last day of broadcasting here on KFI. That's when
I think I'll share that story with you because it
is well, it is what it is. So the love Boat,
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what is the love Boat? Well, the history of the
love Boat is really not what you think. It's actually
called the ms.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Aurora, or was.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And I want to give you a little bit of
history about this because the love Boat is on its
last legs. If boats had lakes, okay, seventy years old
and it just sunk in a back channel of the
Sacramento San Joaquin Delta and a lot of boats there
all kinds get dumped in that area.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You know, they seep oil hazards. The local officials go.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Crazy because, well, you've got jeopardizing of wildlife. You've got
the delta drinking water and water used for agriculture, and
these boats don't do that any favors.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
But let me tell you about the Aurora.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
This is a fascinating history of a boat which was
the basis for the television show The Life Boat.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Okay, she was German.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
She started as a German liner, then became a cruise
ship in Greece and the West coast of North America.
She'd go la up the coast. Then she was a
homeless shelter, then a drug den, then became vessel non
grata in several of California's big cities. And she was
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a Hollywood star. Do you remember from Russia with Love
that movie James Bond movie. There was a cruise ship
in that movie that was part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
It was the Aurora.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
And then of course the basis for the show The
Love Boat. And then she was a YouTube star. A
developer bought her on Craigslist. I mean it goes on
and on. Now I want to tell you a little
bit about this ship. Okay, the demise of this ship
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is really a broken dream of a long line of
men who have been absolutely bewitched by this ship. Chris
Wilson is one of them, the most recent owner that
we know of. We really don't know anybody owns it
because the ownership, they would lost track of the owners.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'll explain that. He says he sold the boat last
fall to a buyer.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Who doesn't want his name disclosed, and he really doesn't
know who it is.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And how is that possible.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Peter Knego, who is a cruise ship historian, says, I'm heartbroken.
He's been following this since the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
On May twenty two of this year, she went down.
She went down in the estuary, and now questions are
even more intense about this boat. He says, it's all very,
very strange. One of the questions is who actually owns
the Aurora. Actually nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Why did she sink. Nobody knows who is going to
be held responsible for this hulk leaking oil at the
bottom of the estuary. Nobody really knows what happens if
she gets refloated.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Nobody knows, and.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
There's talk of that. So how did all of this happen.
And here is a little bit of history which I love.
The story of the original love boat, the Ms Aurora,
starts in nineteen fifty five in a shipyard in Hamburg, Germany,
where she was christen the Wappen von Hamburg, the first
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quote significant passenger ship built in Germany after World War Two.
There were a lot of warships, but this one was
the first one they were able to build three hundred
feet stem to stern. Now keep in mind cruise ships
today are one thousand, eleven.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Hundred feet and they go at fifty four stories. They
are big.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
This one is your regular three hundred foot cruise ship
and broke new ground. Actually on her maiden voyage, she
carried sixteen hundred guests today there's what five.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Six thousand on ships.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And she cruised the North Sea for a few years,
then she moved down to Greece. Then she got a
new name, the Delos, and a distinction because she was
one of the first modern ships to bring cruising to
the Greek Isles. This is the original love boat that
the television series was based on, the Aurora, and it
just sunk sank up in the Delta region Sacramento. It's
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at the bottom of one of the estuaries, and so
I wanted to share the story of this boat with you.
She started as a German liner and then went to
the Grecian Isles in the west coast of America. And
as I said, she was from Russia with love. And
how did she become the Love Boat. It's really a
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terrific story of how that happens, because it turns out
that the demise of this ship is just a dreams
of a long line of men who have just wanted
desperately to do something with the boat. So, as I said,
no one knows who actually owns the boat, No one
has any idea. What we do know is she started
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that she was built in Hamburg, Germany, the first passenger
ship built in Germany after World War Two, and she
was in the North Sea for a few years. Then
she was moved to Greece and got the new name Dellos.
I shared that with you, and by the late nineteen sixties, she's.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Already they're building bigger ships.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So she was sold again and cruised America's west coast
and there she was the Pacific Star and the Polar Star.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
She had both names.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now the love Boat part of it, this is the
fun part, Geraldine Saunders was It's got a job as
a cruise director on the boat while it was plying
a northern part.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Of the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
She was a fashion model and an astrology officionado, and
she got a job as the cruise director. And she
told The Times in an interview in nineteen seventy two,
you can't imagine the things that happen on these cruise ships.
The sex, lives of the officer's death, suicides, marriages, romances,
nympho maniacs. Sounds like television show, you might add. I
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realize what all people are looking for is love. The
world revolves around love. So she's writing letters to her
family about her life at sea. Her mother takes some
of these letters and passes them to a literary agent.
In nineteen seventy four, she publishes a memoir called Love
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Boats about her time on the Aurora, that was optioned
by producer Aaron Spelling, and that became The Love Boat,
one of the most popular and idiotic television shows in
the history of television, by the way. She died in
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twenty nineteen at the age of ninety five. And so
what happened to the boat? Okay, now we moved to
the early nineteen seventies, and she's owned by a guy
named Donald Ferguson who bought her, dubbed her the Xanadu,
and filled her with all kinds of Asian antiques that
passengers could admire during the cruises. Well, by nineteen seventy seven,
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h it doesn't work so well. So she's now in
the port of Seattle and just sits there. In December
of nineteen eighty four, the local newspaper in Kusbay reported
that this graceful cruise ship ran into trouble off the
Oregon coast and was then towed into a fishing village.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Because the coast guard made that order.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
The coastguard said the boat had been headed for Los Angeles,
asking the owner, uh, let me just for information. The
owner wouldn't give any information, wouldn't even give his name. Nothing,
and everything is copyrighted, the paper quoted and was saying,
no newspapers can print any stories because it's all copyrighted. Therefore,
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I can't give you any information at all. All right,
So the Cousbay World, the local newspaper, starts investigating this
and right, she'd been used as a floating camp for
workers in the processing plants in Dutch Harbor, Alaska, and
the ship was towed from there to Los Angeles and
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then north. I mean, no one knows exactly what happens,
all right. So now the ship has a new name
and a new mission. The early nineteen nineties, it's sold
to a religious group who renames the ship the Faithful,
and she was going to become a Christian relief ship,
sailing into ports of trouble to provide help for poor
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and destitute Christians.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, that never happened. Squatters come aboard, a lot of them,
very devout.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
These were Christian devout squatters, and they took up residence
and you could see people were living on the ship,
hanging their laundry, moving around.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
The deck, a lot of prayers.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And if anyone noticed that anybody was looking at them,
they moved inside.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
They took coverage.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Okay, The coastguard then evicts everybody. The ship is sold again,
it's towed to Alameda again. Plans for her revival nada.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So then the ship becomes a drug den and it
becomes a floating homeless shelter. And then the ownership. No
one knows really what happened. Efforts to move the ship
out of the port, no one knows. No one knows
who's paid Alameda where it ends up, tries to fund
some find someone just take the ship. The value was
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assessed at two thousand dollars and they couldn't get rid
of it two grand. Finally, they end up paying this
one guy two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, paying him
to move the ship, which of course.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
He doesn't do. Wow, it's just completely crazy. In just
some of the history.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
In August of twenty thousand and eight, there was a
software developer in Santa Cruz saw an ad on Craig's
list where the ship had.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Been listed, and thought, I'm getting this puppy.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And that turned out not to be a good idea
because as he goes aboard, he buys us on crazylists
without even coming aboard, an abandoned homeless encampment left to
decate for years, trash all over the interior, graffiti, floors
coated in excrement of the caretaker's dog, you could barely breathe.
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And then he spends one night aboard and he hears noises
and voices that weren't there, like sleeping in a giant,
haunted house. He goes out on deck, sees this sunrise,
the beams very biblical hitting the earth like an aurora.
The ship spoke to me, so he bought the ship.
We don't know for how much names are of the aurora.
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And now where does he go? And now the story
just goes on and on because it goes back and forth.
By the way, one caretaker living on one of the
ships goes into town, breaks into a home. The cops
are called, and literally it was a Jack Sparrow style
race where the cops are chasing after him.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I mean, there is so much more, but I can't
even get into it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
All I can tell you is that the original love
boat is now at the bottom of the estuary in
the Delta and Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I could do four segments on this great story. Absolutely
love it.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
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