December 5, 2024 • 27 mins
How to Money's Joel Larsgaard joins the show to talk about porch pirates, Airline fees are under investigation by congress. Ai Granny is thwarting scammers. Number of 401k 'Millionaires' Just Jumped by 9.5%. Later with Mo Kelly host joins Bill to discuss Britney Spears escaping move to Mexico.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KFI AM six forty the Bill Handle show
on demand on the iHeartRadio f Bill Handle. Here it
is a Thursday morning, December fifth. Some of the bigger stories. Oh,
there goes my copy stand. Oh right, hey, you know
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it's copy stand, all right? Hey, he another one just
fell all right, just sharing some of the big stories
we are looking at. Bitcoin has gone through the one
hundred thousand dollars mark for the first time.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And when bitcoin first came out, they were several for
a penny. Now they're one hundred thousand dollars each. Pretty impressive.
And police are searching for that gunman who killed United
Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. It was a deliberate attack. It
was a hit, is what it was. The authorities are searching,
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but they haven't found the gunman or the bike that
he was running off on, or his weapon. All Right,
it's time for Joel Largsguard How to Money. Joel has
heard Sunday twelve to two pm right here on KFI,
and the segment is how to Money with Joel Heard
(01:21):
Sunday's twelve pm to two pm every Sunday on KFI. Joel,
Good Morning, Bill all right, we've got a fair number
of topics to cover. One of the topics and I
didn't even know this. It has to deal with porch pirates.
And the news are covering this more and more, and
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even people who have ring cameras it doesn't seem to matter.
And there was a news item the other day where
these porch pirate pirates are doing this in front of
the delivery guys and running away.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, yeah, just stunning.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So let's talk about that and how there may.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Be some help here.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's a massive problem, right, And there
was this new report from Value Peng when it basically
said fifty percent of people who getting packages delivered to
their house are likely to have a package stolen this
time of year. And yeah, you're right. I mean, like,
we have better technology, but let's say you have a
camera set up on your front porch, which is where
your packages are being delivered, and guess what, Well, maybe
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you get the person on camera, but then how do
you go about getting your item back or having that
person prosecuted? And you know, the police are inundated with
like porch pirate calls, so it's not necessarily going to
lead to any sort of resolution, I will say, having
that the theft on camera might help. Let's say, if
you order something from Amazon, you say, hey, I never
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received the item. If you have that video you might
have Amazon is it required to necessarily replace that item,
but they might send you another one out of the
goodness of their heart, just because you're able to show
that that thing's all right.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hang on a second, I want to visit that statement Amazon,
the goodness of their heart?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Did you actually say that?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, you know, I mean, I know they're not some
sort of benevolent charity or anything like that, but they're
not required to give you anything else. And so if
the item does get stolen off your porch, they could
just say screw you.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, I mean many.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Times they won't if you have some sort of evidence
that it was stolen.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I yeah, I was looking into a spring loaded
shotgun when I got you know, my package just stolen,
and I just I found out that's illegal.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You're not allowed to shoot these people.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
One way to tackle this is just to look menacing
and to always be at your house, right, But most people,
if you've got to go into work, like if you're
working from home, you probably have a better chance of
just grabbing your packages when they show up. But if
you don't work from home, if you're at work, like,
what can you do home?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You know, there's a.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
There's an app that we have that tells you when
a package is being delivered when it hits the porch.
So the second it does and we're home, boom, I'm
right out there and we pick out the package.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So there's insurance for this, now, seriously.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yes, yes, that is. And that's something else that's totally
worth mentioning, especially if you have had this happened, or
you feel like, man, your neighborhood is targeted in a
particular way, or your house has been targeted in a
particular way. There is insurance for this. It's from this
startup company called porch Path. You pay one hundred and
twenty bucks and you don't have to pay any sort
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of deductible when you file a claim either, and they're
going to protect up to two thousand dollars for stolen
goods in a given year. And I think you can
make three claims in a year as well. So it's
one of those things where one hundred and twenty bucks, Well,
if you're buying like cheap stuff off Amazon, and it's
like twenty bucks here, twenty bucks there that someone feels
that's one thing. But if you're buying nice stuff and
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your Nintendo switch gets stolen off your front porch, right,
that claim is likely worthwhile, and it's likely worthwhile to
have that insurance. But that so much if it comes
down to your personal experience with porch pirates and how
you feel, whether your neighborhood feel safe, and whether you
feel like this is something you need to have. But
it's just fascinating, and it's become such a problem that
insurance companies and startups have risen to offer insurance for this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, it's really crazy, especially in the news item and
I'm seeing this every day cell phones that are being delivered.
These porch pirates know when and where somehow the delivery
is made. They've been able to hack in and pick
up the delivery times, the kind of boxes, which is
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why I understand a lot of retailers, particularly when you
talking about small, very high volume or high end products,
use different size boxes to thwart the porch pirates.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's really crazy. Stuff go ahead, it really is.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
On the insurance front, by the way, you could potentially
file homeowners insurance claim, But don't do it because when
you think about how big the deductible is typically in
your homeowners insurance and how much your premium might go up,
especially these days when we're talking about massive hikes for
so many people to the tune of twenty thirty forty
percent on their homeowners in churance premium. Some people even
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more than that. You don't want to file a claim
if you can help it, and so some people might
be tempted, like my cell phone was stolen off, Well,
maybe it's worth paying my five hundred dollars deductible or
something like that because it was a twelve hundred dollars phone. No,
it's not going to be worth it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That's not now if you have a yeah, well most
people have on home insurance. I think I have a
thousand dollars deductible because anything under that, you make a claim,
you'll get your money. And then they when it's time
for renewal, they start laughing at you. Okay, let's go
ahead and take let's go ahead and take a break.
We had a couple of other things that I want
to talk about. Oh yeah, airlines are in front of
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Congress this week and we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
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Speaker 2 (07:01):
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Speaker 1 (07:04):
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Speaker 2 (08:04):
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Speaker 1 (08:06):
We're gonna go past that this year and can't do
it without you. I mean, that's serious. You guys make
it happen, because I sure as hell don't write a
check for one point three million dollars. I barely write
a check for a dollar thirty Okay, Joel Larsguard how
to money? Sunday twelve to two pm right here on KFI.
(08:27):
So the airlines are in front of Congress there this week,
and what are they saying? How do the airlines defend
themselves on anything?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I mean, that's a good question. And right now they're
being kind of their feet are being held to the
fire over baggage fees, and like, when you look at
the numbers, some of the biggest airlines have made billions
and billions and billions of dollars over the past few
years just charging like baggage and seat fees. And so
this is one of those revenue centers that the airlines
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have found. And there the Congress is just saying, hey, guys,
what is going on here? Why are people being charged
so much into antillary fees? And on top of that,
why do the fees vary so wildly between different people
on the same flight, which is a tough question for
them to answer, because it's kind of frustrating for flyers flying,
especially some of the low fare airlines, when they say, well,
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I don't know, am I going to pay forty bucks
to check this bag? Or I'm going to pay Am
I gonna pay like one hundred and fifteen? And you
just kind of don't know because the cost of doing
some of the of those antillary services is going to
vary depending on when you pay for the thing, whether
you pay at the airport when you show up, and
I think that's frustrating a lot of flyers.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
There was a time, and not too long ago, and
I certainly remember this, where you would board a plane
and you would get a bag or two for free
per person, and the only time you pay it was
when it was overweight or you had an extra bag.
And then all of a sudden, some genius who I'm
sure got a huge bonus that year, said hey, we
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can make a ton of money charging for bags, and whoa,
there you go, and you're right, billions of dollars because
where you sit on an airplane, the emergency seat is
now being sold, or it didn't used to. I think
Southwest is the only airline out there that doesn't charge
for seats, and I think they're about to go there.
I mean it doesn't charge for a baggage and is
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about to go there if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I don't know if they're going to charge for baggage,
but it does look like they're going to charge for seats,
right so that they had kind of a cattle call
boarding and it looks like that's going to change in
probably summer of this coming year, and that's going to
be kind of a sad day because Southwest was kind
of this airline that was doing something different, and you're right,
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like the two free checked bags, that was a calling
card of Southwest, and I hope that continues to be
a calling cards because they're standing out in a marketplace
where people are tired of getting feed to death flying
these airlines'm I will say the one benefit of these
ancillary fees, and one of the CEOs mentioned this kind
of in the grilling was, Hey, a lot of people
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actually completely avoid these seas. Almost fifty percent of passengers
don't pay any of these seas. And I flew Frontier
earlier this year and was able to avoid all the
extra fees and these low fare airlines like Spirit in Frontier. Yeah,
you kind of at times you want to punch yourself
in the face flying these airlines, but I will if
you are willing to jump through all of the hoops,
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you can get to your destination cheaper than any other way.
And so I don't hate some of these seas. I mean,
they might be really annoying. But if you're a smart
consumer and you know what the fees are, and you
know what the regulation sizes are about the size and
the number of bags you're able to bring on each
individual flight, you can skirt those fees right and you
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can pay less overall to get where you're trying to go.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, and you know, to your point, you can get
there cheaper and more comfortably on these low cost airlines
when it's everybody else is three across, they're five across,
you know, per row or eight.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
O'clockyeah, you might have to sit in someone's lap.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, it's pretty much.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, No, your mentor Clark Howard and I have talked
and he takes a trip every year. He takes his
staff every year, which is phenomenal because that's Clark and
he can go for six months someplace and he does
it with a bag that fits in the overhead. I
don't quite understand that that's but you can do it
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if you try. My daughter just did it when she
traveled to Europe. She's gone for two and a half
weeks the overhead and that's it.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I mean, I'm all about packing light and I think, like,
I have this travel backpack. It's twenty eight liters size,
and if I'm going for a week or less, I'm
trying to pack everything in there because it's just like
wearing the one pair of shoes that's on my feet
and just kind of trying to travel light because yeah,
not only do you avoid bag fees, but you also
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it's just easier to get around at your final destination.
So I mean that's really a personal choice. I know
some people like to bring the whole kitchen sink when
they're traveling, and yeah, choose your airline accordingly because of
these bag fees. But I think I think packing light
is it makes travel to me a little bit easier.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
All right, then really quickly Cyber Monday, Cyber December Cyber what.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is it is that my phone?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I thought I had my you know, wow, Okay, I
just I thought I had it off, but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's a scam call in any case, where was.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You needn't get that bill? Please feel free?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
No, well, you know what, I pray for people to
be at the other end of the line, but for something.
Most of the calls ninety percent are just scam calls
that they hang these weird I answer the phone silence
and then they hang up.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, can I tell you something on that front? Did
you see the AI granny thing that just got released
in Great Britain. I think Vergin created it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
No, oh, tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
We have a minute, Okay. So basically, if a scammer calls,
there's this AI program that picks up and it's like
a It sounds like an old lady and she is
just the whole point of this of this software is
to waste the scammer's time. They waste so much of
our time. And so now this AI granny picks up
(14:29):
the phone and says, oh, I'm sorry, I'm looking for
my spectacles oh and starts telling stories about her grandkids
or something like that. And the scammer is hoping to
take advantage of this older person's old person is just
an AI algorithm. It is amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's trufic.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And the ones I get, I mean scams come from
either Philippines or India because that's the only people they
can afford. You'll ever hear an American company that has
all these robo calls. It's always someone from India, and
I love those when people are actually on the phone. Hey,
how's the weather, little human? What time is it over there?
And it's always fun to talk to them. All Right,
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We're done Joel this Sunday twelve to two, and again
next Thursday.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You have a good one.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
All right, thanks Bill, all right, coming up.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I have to wait till they say thanks Bill. I
should just bail out of there, which I usually do. Hey,
thanks for calling, goodbye. All right, We're going to finish
up the eight thirty segment before mo Kelly comes aboarded
eight fifty, our last segment, and that's the number of
four oh one k millionaires.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Boy, that number is exploding.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And then a little reality check for your four oh
one k.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Last couple of segments on our show before we bail
and we're done for the day. Mo Kelly coming up
next segment. So I want to throw something at you,
and that is this just came out. The number of
four oh one K millionaires just jump by almost ten percent.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I mean that's a big amount.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that means you have four to one K and
you've got a million dollars and by god, you're rich,
rich beyond words. Well you're not, because your four oh
one K is all about paying you when you retire
and based on the amount of money you should take
out that keeps your money still earning money, so you
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don't you don't dive into it and it just drops
and drops and drops where it's worth virtually nothing. At
the end of ten years, you're getting fifty thousand dollars
a year. That's what a million dollar generates. That's not
a whole lot of money. But if you add fifty
thousand dollars a year to social security and a pension,
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if you've been able to put that together, you know what,
that's livable. But that means you have to have fifty
a million dollars or eight hundred thousand dollars or whatever
in your four oh one K plan. And a couple
of stats, and this of course is something that nobody
is surprised at the balance. The least amount of money
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among the demographic is young people, make sense, But minorities
or minorities don't put money into a four oh one
K plan.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
They can't afford it. They have paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Some do actually have money in a four to oh
one K plan, And the problem is that, let's say
you move to a new job, what people do is
cash out their four oh one K and start all
over again, which is crazy, especially since it is now
much easier to just move your four oh one K
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plan even with another company. And if you're lucky, you
of matching funds, and if you do have a company
that matches let's say up to three percent, you are
insane not to put the maximum amount of money into
your fur one K plan up to that match or
more because on that matching money, it's one hundred percent
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return a year. What investment do you think you could
ever make that returns one hundred percent a year? Well,
bitcoin if you bought it twenty five years ago. But
short of that, the other problem what people do, again minorities,
younger people, is they take their four to oh one
K plan out because they're moving jobs or they need
the money, and that has charged as ordinary income plus
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ten percent penalty.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
If you're under fifty nine and a half. I mean,
that wipes you out.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And if you take it out at that point you
start putting it back in.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You're starting from zero.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And the magic of any retirement plan where they make
all of their money or a substantial amount of their money,
is the last few years. That's the big money that's
being made. The first few years not quite And so
you don't want to put yourself behind. And I know,
and I talk to my kids all about it. You know,
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you know, what do you do in your twenties? Do
you really think of retirement?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Smart people?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Do you start putting away and not even a huge
amount of money, you know, two hundred three hundred dollars
a month and some people can't afford it, granted, but
one hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And then as your income grows.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You throw two hundred three hundred dollars a month and
all of a sudden, and it's long ways away, but
all of a sudden, forty years later, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What you have.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You're looking at some decent money. And then if you
have social Security. You know, you put those two together
and all of a sudden, you know you're not living.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
In a dumpster.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And unfortunately, people who live only on Social Security do
end up living in dumpsters.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I get calls on Handle on the Law on Saturdays,
where I always ask questions like how much money do
you make?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Because is it? Sometimes it's relevant.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Sometimes it has absolutely nothing to do with a question.
But I'm nosy as hell and I pretend that that's relevant,
and I ask those questions. And people I'm living on
Social Security usually when they're in credit card debt and
they're going after me, I go, how much money do
you make? Well, I live on so Security and I
make eleven hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Are they going to go after me?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
No, they're not. Don't worry about that. But how do
you live on eleven hundred dollars a month? How do
you live on fifteen hundred dollars a month in southern California? Well,
they live in really strange circumstances, and it's a heartbreaker.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It is expensive to live here. Expensive.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I was having conversation with my daughter who's twenty nine
last night. G Dad, I'm thinking of buying a house. Okay,
let's say a million dollar house, which is not out
outrageous at all.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
A million dollar house.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I think the average house now in La County is
nine hundred or eight hundred and seven dollars, and that
includes the crap crap that's out there. I'm looking out
here the window Burbank. These little two bedroom, three bedroom,
one bath houses are a million bucks twelve hundred square feet.
So I was telling her, okay, a million dollars, two
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hundred thousand dollars down and an eight hundred thousand dollars MORTGAGEE. Well,
it means I'm never going to be able to afford that.
That's right, You're never going to be able to afford that.
Welcome to the world, the real world coming up, mo Kelly.
We'll finish it with that interesting, interesting topic about people
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big stars just getting out of Dodge Dodge meaning the
United States.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Thursday morning, December the fifth last segment of the show,
which means bo Kelly is joining us. MOE is heard
every Monday through Friday, seven to ten pm in a
show cleverly titled Later with Mo Kelly and for some reason,
we used to say earlier with Mo Kelly on this segment,
but it sounded so stupid that I think we just
(22:13):
gave that up, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Mo, No, you gave it up. I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh that means you came up with it. Right there,
you go. Hey, A story I want you to talk about.
And let's start with the fact that a lot of
big name stars are moving out of the United States
because of political reason. Originally, when Trump was first elected,
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people said, oh, I'm moving out, I'm moving out. No
one did this time around. They're doing it, but they
can because they can live anywhere they want, and of
course they have houses all.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Over the world.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
But there's a story about Britney Spears moving to Mexico
to escape the popa razzi. Now I definitely can can
I can relate to this and understand this because as
soon as I leave the station, I mean, the paparazzi
are all over me when I walk, and the autograph
seekers won't leave me alone. So I can certainly understand,
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you know, Brittany having this problem. But I think it
says a lot about paparazzi and how cruel they are,
and she just can't take it anymore. And I'm assuming
she cannot even walk the sidewalk.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
There's an aspect to this which is true and serious,
and that yes, she is hounded by the paparazzi. Yes,
she would probably have difficulty going anywhere. Yes, TMZ stalks her.
But at the same time, I'm not sure whether this
announcement is actually serious. She says on her Instagram that
she might be turning five and this post was in
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connection with her birthday when she turned forty three, and
she was in Mexico for her birthday celebration. But we're
not sure whether she's kidding or whether she's serious. And also,
why would you announce that you're leaving the country because
of paparazzi if only because you're letting them know where
where you're going to go, where to find.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, but it's a bit. It's it's a big country,
but it's I don't know who.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was having a conversation with yesterday and there were
a couple of major stars that moved to Switzerland, and
I asked why because for some reason, and I was
told this, in Switzerland, they leave you alone.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's the culture.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They don't have paparazzi, they're not asked for autographs. You
can go into a restaurant or go to a movie
without people bothering you.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You can't do that in London. You can't do that
in New York.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
To an extent, you can do it here in Los
Angeles because we are you know, so many celebrities live here.
But this entire issue with paparazzi and Britney Spears, I
would think, for example, Taylor Swift is just she can't
even live anything at any place outside of her Well.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
The only problem is Britney Spears has a history coming
up to right now, of attention seeking behavior. If you
ever followed her on Instagram, and I follow her on Instagram,
she's usually posting these videos and dancing in her underwear
or bikini and twirling around in circles. Her behavior inspires
and also I would I don't want to say instigates,
(25:21):
but it encourages the type of paparazzi coverage that she
allegedly does not want. She does not live a low
key lifestyle. I don't know if she can have it
both ways. Yes, there's a history of stars moving to
Europe like you talk about Tina Turner and they live
a very low key lifestyle. I don't know if Britney
Spears is trying to live a low key lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And so the paparazzi issue, is it about the same
level what it's been for the last few years, is
gone up gone down?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I would say it's gone up, if only because there
are more outlets there. There's a better understanding that these
outlets will pay good money for good pictures of celebrities
caught compromised positions, unflattering situations, people that we don't necessarily
see all that often. So I would think, as I'm
not a celebrity, I would think that it's probably worse
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than maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, when I see paparazzi, if I know, and I beg,
I beg.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Him to take my picture, and it never works. Never.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, Mo, always a pleasure tonight seven to ten
pm every Monday through Friday, and his social address at
mister Mo Kelly k E L y MO. Have a
good one, see you soon, all right, we'll catch you tonight.
That's it, guys, We're done.
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is a Thursday morning, December fifth. Some of the bigger stories. Oh,
there goes my copy stand. Oh right, hey, you know
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it's copy stand, all right? Hey, he another one just
fell all right, just sharing some of the big stories
we are looking at. Bitcoin has gone through the one
hundred thousand dollars mark for the first time.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And when bitcoin first came out, they were several for
a penny. Now they're one hundred thousand dollars each. Pretty impressive.
And police are searching for that gunman who killed United
Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. It was a deliberate attack. It
was a hit, is what it was. The authorities are searching,
(01:01):
but they haven't found the gunman or the bike that
he was running off on, or his weapon. All Right,
it's time for Joel Largsguard How to Money. Joel has
heard Sunday twelve to two pm right here on KFI,
and the segment is how to Money with Joel Heard
(01:21):
Sunday's twelve pm to two pm every Sunday on KFI. Joel,
Good Morning, Bill all right, we've got a fair number
of topics to cover. One of the topics and I
didn't even know this. It has to deal with porch pirates.
And the news are covering this more and more, and
(01:42):
even people who have ring cameras it doesn't seem to matter.
And there was a news item the other day where
these porch pirate pirates are doing this in front of
the delivery guys and running away.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, yeah, just stunning.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So let's talk about that and how there may.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Be some help here.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's a massive problem, right, And there
was this new report from Value Peng when it basically
said fifty percent of people who getting packages delivered to
their house are likely to have a package stolen this
time of year. And yeah, you're right. I mean, like,
we have better technology, but let's say you have a
camera set up on your front porch, which is where
your packages are being delivered, and guess what, Well, maybe
(02:23):
you get the person on camera, but then how do
you go about getting your item back or having that
person prosecuted? And you know, the police are inundated with
like porch pirate calls, so it's not necessarily going to
lead to any sort of resolution, I will say, having
that the theft on camera might help. Let's say, if
you order something from Amazon, you say, hey, I never
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received the item. If you have that video you might
have Amazon is it required to necessarily replace that item,
but they might send you another one out of the
goodness of their heart, just because you're able to show
that that thing's all right.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hang on a second, I want to visit that statement Amazon,
the goodness of their heart?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Did you actually say that?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, you know, I mean, I know they're not some
sort of benevolent charity or anything like that, but they're
not required to give you anything else. And so if
the item does get stolen off your porch, they could
just say screw you.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, I mean many.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Times they won't if you have some sort of evidence
that it was stolen.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I yeah, I was looking into a spring loaded
shotgun when I got you know, my package just stolen,
and I just I found out that's illegal.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You're not allowed to shoot these people.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
One way to tackle this is just to look menacing
and to always be at your house, right, But most people,
if you've got to go into work, like if you're
working from home, you probably have a better chance of
just grabbing your packages when they show up. But if
you don't work from home, if you're at work, like,
what can you do home?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You know, there's a.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
There's an app that we have that tells you when
a package is being delivered when it hits the porch.
So the second it does and we're home, boom, I'm
right out there and we pick out the package.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So there's insurance for this, now, seriously.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yes, yes, that is. And that's something else that's totally
worth mentioning, especially if you have had this happened, or
you feel like, man, your neighborhood is targeted in a
particular way, or your house has been targeted in a
particular way. There is insurance for this. It's from this
startup company called porch Path. You pay one hundred and
twenty bucks and you don't have to pay any sort
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of deductible when you file a claim either, and they're
going to protect up to two thousand dollars for stolen
goods in a given year. And I think you can
make three claims in a year as well. So it's
one of those things where one hundred and twenty bucks, Well,
if you're buying like cheap stuff off Amazon, and it's
like twenty bucks here, twenty bucks there that someone feels
that's one thing. But if you're buying nice stuff and
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your Nintendo switch gets stolen off your front porch, right,
that claim is likely worthwhile, and it's likely worthwhile to
have that insurance. But that so much if it comes
down to your personal experience with porch pirates and how
you feel, whether your neighborhood feel safe, and whether you
feel like this is something you need to have. But
it's just fascinating, and it's become such a problem that
insurance companies and startups have risen to offer insurance for this.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, it's really crazy, especially in the news item and
I'm seeing this every day cell phones that are being delivered.
These porch pirates know when and where somehow the delivery
is made. They've been able to hack in and pick
up the delivery times, the kind of boxes, which is
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why I understand a lot of retailers, particularly when you
talking about small, very high volume or high end products,
use different size boxes to thwart the porch pirates.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's really crazy. Stuff go ahead, it really is.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
On the insurance front, by the way, you could potentially
file homeowners insurance claim, But don't do it because when
you think about how big the deductible is typically in
your homeowners insurance and how much your premium might go up,
especially these days when we're talking about massive hikes for
so many people to the tune of twenty thirty forty
percent on their homeowners in churance premium. Some people even
(06:15):
more than that. You don't want to file a claim
if you can help it, and so some people might
be tempted, like my cell phone was stolen off, Well,
maybe it's worth paying my five hundred dollars deductible or
something like that because it was a twelve hundred dollars phone. No,
it's not going to be worth it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That's not now if you have a yeah, well most
people have on home insurance. I think I have a
thousand dollars deductible because anything under that, you make a claim,
you'll get your money. And then they when it's time
for renewal, they start laughing at you. Okay, let's go
ahead and take let's go ahead and take a break.
We had a couple of other things that I want
to talk about. Oh yeah, airlines are in front of
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Congress this week and we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
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it happen, because I sure as hell don't write a
check for one point three million dollars. I barely write
a check for a dollar thirty Okay, Joel Larsguard how
to money? Sunday twelve to two pm right here on KFI.
(08:27):
So the airlines are in front of Congress there this week,
and what are they saying? How do the airlines defend
themselves on anything?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I mean, that's a good question. And right now they're
being kind of their feet are being held to the
fire over baggage fees, and like, when you look at
the numbers, some of the biggest airlines have made billions
and billions and billions of dollars over the past few
years just charging like baggage and seat fees. And so
this is one of those revenue centers that the airlines
(08:58):
have found. And there the Congress is just saying, hey, guys,
what is going on here? Why are people being charged
so much into antillary fees? And on top of that,
why do the fees vary so wildly between different people
on the same flight, which is a tough question for
them to answer, because it's kind of frustrating for flyers flying,
especially some of the low fare airlines, when they say, well,
(09:21):
I don't know, am I going to pay forty bucks
to check this bag? Or I'm going to pay Am
I gonna pay like one hundred and fifteen? And you
just kind of don't know because the cost of doing
some of the of those antillary services is going to
vary depending on when you pay for the thing, whether
you pay at the airport when you show up, and
I think that's frustrating a lot of flyers.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
There was a time, and not too long ago, and
I certainly remember this, where you would board a plane
and you would get a bag or two for free
per person, and the only time you pay it was
when it was overweight or you had an extra bag.
And then all of a sudden, some genius who I'm
sure got a huge bonus that year, said hey, we
(10:00):
can make a ton of money charging for bags, and whoa,
there you go, and you're right, billions of dollars because
where you sit on an airplane, the emergency seat is
now being sold, or it didn't used to. I think
Southwest is the only airline out there that doesn't charge
for seats, and I think they're about to go there.
I mean it doesn't charge for a baggage and is
(10:22):
about to go there if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I don't know if they're going to charge for baggage,
but it does look like they're going to charge for seats,
right so that they had kind of a cattle call
boarding and it looks like that's going to change in
probably summer of this coming year, and that's going to
be kind of a sad day because Southwest was kind
of this airline that was doing something different, and you're right,
(10:47):
like the two free checked bags, that was a calling
card of Southwest, and I hope that continues to be
a calling cards because they're standing out in a marketplace
where people are tired of getting feed to death flying
these airlines'm I will say the one benefit of these
ancillary fees, and one of the CEOs mentioned this kind
of in the grilling was, Hey, a lot of people
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actually completely avoid these seas. Almost fifty percent of passengers
don't pay any of these seas. And I flew Frontier
earlier this year and was able to avoid all the
extra fees and these low fare airlines like Spirit in Frontier. Yeah,
you kind of at times you want to punch yourself
in the face flying these airlines, but I will if
you are willing to jump through all of the hoops,
(11:30):
you can get to your destination cheaper than any other way.
And so I don't hate some of these seas. I mean,
they might be really annoying. But if you're a smart
consumer and you know what the fees are, and you
know what the regulation sizes are about the size and
the number of bags you're able to bring on each
individual flight, you can skirt those fees right and you
(11:51):
can pay less overall to get where you're trying to go.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, and you know, to your point, you can get
there cheaper and more comfortably on these low cost airlines
when it's everybody else is three across, they're five across,
you know, per row or eight.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
O'clockyeah, you might have to sit in someone's lap.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, it's pretty much.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, No, your mentor Clark Howard and I have talked
and he takes a trip every year. He takes his
staff every year, which is phenomenal because that's Clark and
he can go for six months someplace and he does
it with a bag that fits in the overhead. I
don't quite understand that that's but you can do it
(12:34):
if you try. My daughter just did it when she
traveled to Europe. She's gone for two and a half
weeks the overhead and that's it.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I mean, I'm all about packing light and I think, like,
I have this travel backpack. It's twenty eight liters size,
and if I'm going for a week or less, I'm
trying to pack everything in there because it's just like
wearing the one pair of shoes that's on my feet
and just kind of trying to travel light because yeah,
not only do you avoid bag fees, but you also
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it's just easier to get around at your final destination.
So I mean that's really a personal choice. I know
some people like to bring the whole kitchen sink when
they're traveling, and yeah, choose your airline accordingly because of
these bag fees. But I think I think packing light
is it makes travel to me a little bit easier.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
All right, then really quickly Cyber Monday, Cyber December Cyber what.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is it is that my phone?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I thought I had my you know, wow, Okay, I
just I thought I had it off, but I didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's a scam call in any case, where was.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You needn't get that bill? Please feel free?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
No, well, you know what, I pray for people to
be at the other end of the line, but for something.
Most of the calls ninety percent are just scam calls
that they hang these weird I answer the phone silence
and then they hang up.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, can I tell you something on that front? Did
you see the AI granny thing that just got released
in Great Britain. I think Vergin created it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
No, oh, tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
We have a minute, Okay. So basically, if a scammer calls,
there's this AI program that picks up and it's like
a It sounds like an old lady and she is
just the whole point of this of this software is
to waste the scammer's time. They waste so much of
our time. And so now this AI granny picks up
(14:29):
the phone and says, oh, I'm sorry, I'm looking for
my spectacles oh and starts telling stories about her grandkids
or something like that. And the scammer is hoping to
take advantage of this older person's old person is just
an AI algorithm. It is amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's trufic.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And the ones I get, I mean scams come from
either Philippines or India because that's the only people they
can afford. You'll ever hear an American company that has
all these robo calls. It's always someone from India, and
I love those when people are actually on the phone. Hey,
how's the weather, little human? What time is it over there?
And it's always fun to talk to them. All Right,
(15:04):
We're done Joel this Sunday twelve to two, and again
next Thursday.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You have a good one.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
All right, thanks Bill, all right, coming up.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I have to wait till they say thanks Bill. I
should just bail out of there, which I usually do. Hey,
thanks for calling, goodbye. All right, We're going to finish
up the eight thirty segment before mo Kelly comes aboarded
eight fifty, our last segment, and that's the number of
four oh one k millionaires.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Boy, that number is exploding.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And then a little reality check for your four oh
one k.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Last couple of segments on our show before we bail
and we're done for the day. Mo Kelly coming up
next segment. So I want to throw something at you,
and that is this just came out. The number of
four oh one K millionaires just jump by almost ten percent.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I mean that's a big amount.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that means you have four to one K and
you've got a million dollars and by god, you're rich,
rich beyond words. Well you're not, because your four oh
one K is all about paying you when you retire
and based on the amount of money you should take
out that keeps your money still earning money, so you
(16:25):
don't you don't dive into it and it just drops
and drops and drops where it's worth virtually nothing. At
the end of ten years, you're getting fifty thousand dollars
a year. That's what a million dollar generates. That's not
a whole lot of money. But if you add fifty
thousand dollars a year to social security and a pension,
(16:47):
if you've been able to put that together, you know what,
that's livable. But that means you have to have fifty
a million dollars or eight hundred thousand dollars or whatever
in your four oh one K plan. And a couple
of stats, and this of course is something that nobody
is surprised at the balance. The least amount of money
(17:12):
among the demographic is young people, make sense, But minorities
or minorities don't put money into a four oh one
K plan.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
They can't afford it. They have paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Some do actually have money in a four to oh
one K plan, And the problem is that, let's say
you move to a new job, what people do is
cash out their four oh one K and start all
over again, which is crazy, especially since it is now
much easier to just move your four oh one K
(17:45):
plan even with another company. And if you're lucky, you
of matching funds, and if you do have a company
that matches let's say up to three percent, you are
insane not to put the maximum amount of money into
your fur one K plan up to that match or
more because on that matching money, it's one hundred percent
(18:08):
return a year. What investment do you think you could
ever make that returns one hundred percent a year? Well,
bitcoin if you bought it twenty five years ago. But
short of that, the other problem what people do, again minorities,
younger people, is they take their four to oh one
K plan out because they're moving jobs or they need
the money, and that has charged as ordinary income plus
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ten percent penalty.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
If you're under fifty nine and a half. I mean,
that wipes you out.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And if you take it out at that point you
start putting it back in.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You're starting from zero.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And the magic of any retirement plan where they make
all of their money or a substantial amount of their money,
is the last few years. That's the big money that's
being made. The first few years not quite And so
you don't want to put yourself behind. And I know,
and I talk to my kids all about it. You know,
(19:08):
you know, what do you do in your twenties? Do
you really think of retirement?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Smart people?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Do you start putting away and not even a huge
amount of money, you know, two hundred three hundred dollars
a month and some people can't afford it, granted, but
one hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And then as your income grows.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You throw two hundred three hundred dollars a month and
all of a sudden, and it's long ways away, but
all of a sudden, forty years later, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What you have.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You're looking at some decent money. And then if you
have social Security. You know, you put those two together
and all of a sudden, you know you're not living.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
In a dumpster.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And unfortunately, people who live only on Social Security do
end up living in dumpsters.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I get calls on Handle on the Law on Saturdays,
where I always ask questions like how much money do
you make?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Because is it? Sometimes it's relevant.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Sometimes it has absolutely nothing to do with a question.
But I'm nosy as hell and I pretend that that's relevant,
and I ask those questions. And people I'm living on
Social Security usually when they're in credit card debt and
they're going after me, I go, how much money do
you make? Well, I live on so Security and I
make eleven hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Are they going to go after me?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
No, they're not. Don't worry about that. But how do
you live on eleven hundred dollars a month? How do
you live on fifteen hundred dollars a month in southern California? Well,
they live in really strange circumstances, and it's a heartbreaker.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It is expensive to live here. Expensive.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I was having conversation with my daughter who's twenty nine
last night. G Dad, I'm thinking of buying a house. Okay,
let's say a million dollar house, which is not out
outrageous at all.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
A million dollar house.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I think the average house now in La County is
nine hundred or eight hundred and seven dollars, and that
includes the crap crap that's out there. I'm looking out
here the window Burbank. These little two bedroom, three bedroom,
one bath houses are a million bucks twelve hundred square feet.
So I was telling her, okay, a million dollars, two
(21:15):
hundred thousand dollars down and an eight hundred thousand dollars MORTGAGEE. Well,
it means I'm never going to be able to afford that.
That's right, You're never going to be able to afford that.
Welcome to the world, the real world coming up, mo Kelly.
We'll finish it with that interesting, interesting topic about people
(21:38):
big stars just getting out of Dodge Dodge meaning the
United States.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Thursday morning, December the fifth last segment of the show,
which means bo Kelly is joining us. MOE is heard
every Monday through Friday, seven to ten pm in a
show cleverly titled Later with Mo Kelly and for some reason,
we used to say earlier with Mo Kelly on this segment,
but it sounded so stupid that I think we just
(22:13):
gave that up, didn't we.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Mo, No, you gave it up. I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh that means you came up with it. Right there,
you go. Hey, A story I want you to talk about.
And let's start with the fact that a lot of
big name stars are moving out of the United States
because of political reason. Originally, when Trump was first elected,
(22:38):
people said, oh, I'm moving out, I'm moving out. No
one did this time around. They're doing it, but they
can because they can live anywhere they want, and of
course they have houses all.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Over the world.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
But there's a story about Britney Spears moving to Mexico
to escape the popa razzi. Now I definitely can can
I can relate to this and understand this because as
soon as I leave the station, I mean, the paparazzi
are all over me when I walk, and the autograph
seekers won't leave me alone. So I can certainly understand,
(23:12):
you know, Brittany having this problem. But I think it
says a lot about paparazzi and how cruel they are,
and she just can't take it anymore. And I'm assuming
she cannot even walk the sidewalk.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
There's an aspect to this which is true and serious,
and that yes, she is hounded by the paparazzi. Yes,
she would probably have difficulty going anywhere. Yes, TMZ stalks her.
But at the same time, I'm not sure whether this
announcement is actually serious. She says on her Instagram that
she might be turning five and this post was in
(23:46):
connection with her birthday when she turned forty three, and
she was in Mexico for her birthday celebration. But we're
not sure whether she's kidding or whether she's serious. And also,
why would you announce that you're leaving the country because
of paparazzi if only because you're letting them know where
where you're going to go, where to find.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, but it's a bit. It's it's a big country,
but it's I don't know who.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was having a conversation with yesterday and there were
a couple of major stars that moved to Switzerland, and
I asked why because for some reason, and I was
told this, in Switzerland, they leave you alone.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's the culture.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They don't have paparazzi, they're not asked for autographs. You
can go into a restaurant or go to a movie
without people bothering you.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You can't do that in London. You can't do that
in New York.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
To an extent, you can do it here in Los
Angeles because we are you know, so many celebrities live here.
But this entire issue with paparazzi and Britney Spears, I
would think, for example, Taylor Swift is just she can't
even live anything at any place outside of her Well.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
The only problem is Britney Spears has a history coming
up to right now, of attention seeking behavior. If you
ever followed her on Instagram, and I follow her on Instagram,
she's usually posting these videos and dancing in her underwear
or bikini and twirling around in circles. Her behavior inspires
and also I would I don't want to say instigates,
(25:21):
but it encourages the type of paparazzi coverage that she
allegedly does not want. She does not live a low
key lifestyle. I don't know if she can have it
both ways. Yes, there's a history of stars moving to
Europe like you talk about Tina Turner and they live
a very low key lifestyle. I don't know if Britney
Spears is trying to live a low key lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And so the paparazzi issue, is it about the same
level what it's been for the last few years, is
gone up gone down?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I would say it's gone up, if only because there
are more outlets there. There's a better understanding that these
outlets will pay good money for good pictures of celebrities
caught compromised positions, unflattering situations, people that we don't necessarily
see all that often. So I would think, as I'm
not a celebrity, I would think that it's probably worse
(26:09):
than maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Well, when I see paparazzi, if I know, and I beg,
I beg.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Him to take my picture, and it never works. Never.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, Mo, always a pleasure tonight seven to ten
pm every Monday through Friday, and his social address at
mister Mo Kelly k E L y MO. Have a
good one, see you soon, all right, we'll catch you tonight.
That's it, guys, We're done.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Another day, another dollar or another you know. Eighty four
cents because we work here at A Heart. At iHeart
coming up tomorrow, we start all over again five am
with Amy. I think Neil's going to be back tomorrow,
depends on how he feels. And I do believe Kno
is coming back tomorrow, So we're going to have sort
(26:55):
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