December 9, 2024 • 22 mins
Manhunt for UnitedHealthcare CEO killer meets unexpected obstacle: Sympathy for gunman. Mexico wants a deal with Trump to avoid receiving non-Mexican deportees. Another shortage hits Gaza: Usable cash, as old bills fall apart. In 3 months, 26 foods have been recalled… why you shouldn’t worry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on Demand from KFI, A
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bill handle here on a Monday, December ninth, As we're
just around the corner of the two days of the
holiday season, Christmas and the beginning of the year. Some
of the big stories that we are following. Bashar al Asad,
the Syrian president, the strong man has been overthrown. Rebels
(00:29):
came in an enlightening speed overthrew his government. It was
forty years of brutality and he immediately got on an
airplane as this thing was happening and went to Russia
where he was granted asylum. Also on a fun note,
Merriam Webster's word of the year is polarization, which kind
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of makes sense, doesn't it. And that's according to the
Mirriam Webster Dictionary. It's a little different with the Oxford Dictionary.
And if you look at the Yiddish American Dictionary the
word of the Irish schwuntz, which is used quite often.
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Don't give me that look, Neil can't hear you, can't
hear you.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You don't have a microphone on, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The story of the manhunt for the United Healthcare CEO.
This has been going on all week. This is an
extraordinary story. You have a man that was waiting for
the CEO, who is walking into a hotel early in
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the morning to address a group of investors and he
is shot in the back. He's shot in the back
of the head and dies instantly. And you have the
shooter who has disappeared, probably left Manhattan, got on an
ee bike, went through Central Park, got on a bus,
grabbed a taxi.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He took a bus and he is out of Dodge.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Now here is what's so strange about this.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
This was a cold blooded killing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It looks like it was in retaliation for something that
happened to him or his family because on the casings,
the bullet casings were the word depose, deny.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Delay, which is.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Sort of an attack on insurance companies because that's what
they do.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They don't like to pay up.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And so what's happening is this guy has become a
quase folk hero.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
There.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You go to social media and there are tons of
people who are saying he is a hero, because that's
how detested insurance companies are in this country. Story after
story of people who have been denied coverage. We did
a story, what was it Friday about Anthem deciding that
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if a surgery goes too long, according to them, they're not.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Going to pay for anesthesia. Nope, you're sort of on
your own.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And of course the backlash was so extraordinary they pulled
that back immediately and then came up with some corporate
clap trap to describe even the people that are in
favor of the police catching this guy cold blooded murder
right out are now being vilified on the on social media.
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And this is it is so part of I think,
and they're trying the sociologists are trying to analogize this.
This is part of the populism that the Republicans, in
particularly Donald Trump has got to the brought to the table.
By the way, there's no value judgment here here. It
is simply a let's take a look at it. Donald
Trump won on populism, and that is the people are
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getting screwed by the big players. In this case, it
is completely legitimate that people are getting screwed by insurance companies. Now,
if you're going to argue on behalf of insurance companies,
there are plenty of years where they make no money.
For example, if you look at California and try to
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get fire insurance. Either you don't get it, it's not renewed,
or in my case, my policy for fire insurance insurance
more than doubled and I'm screaming, look what happens. And
the insurer says.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're losing money in California.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So the argument is the insurance companies don't make enough money.
Now the fact is they're making tons of money. So
that argument doesn't hold water. But the interesting part is
how this guy has become a hero.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You remember or Goats.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Whatever his name is, goe Tz on the subway he
shot that kid who is now paralyzed in a wheelchair,
and the kid who was a group of people came
at him with a screwdriver and he just took out
a gun and shot him.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Right, he became a hero.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think he was later on either convicted of a
misdemeanor or was they didn't file charges, or was acquitted.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I don't know the story. But he shot someone and
became a hero. There was a whole movement there. Well
here it is.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And by the way, this is not self defense. This
is shooting a guy in the back and a head
and down he goes. So the story here is how
many people are saying, yep, he represents us because of
our hatred for insurance companies.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
An interesting spid.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All right, there is a of course, there is the
president XCO new when Claudia Shinbaum has already talked to
Donald Trump, as has Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada, and
both ar caving now. And this is where Donald Trump
uses some hardball negotiating tactics, which in many cases, my
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opinion works works to the benefit of the United States.
And I've gone through it with NATO and a few
other things and a few other subjects. But here is
there's two things going on with Mexico. One is we
know about it, and this is the amount of fentanyl
coming in and the illegal aliens that are coming in
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and the criminals that are coming in not so many,
but still the fentanyl part of it is absolute, and
the human trafficking is absolute. And so the President elect
wants to do something about that and is pushing really
hard on Mexico with the use of terrorists or at
least the threat of terrace. There is another part of
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the border, and that is when the illegal migrants get deported,
where do they go?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And what shine by him.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Is arguing is you the United States are transporting all
of these illegal migrants.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
To Mexico and they're not Mexicans. Now we have a
duty right, we have no problem.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
We have a Mexican national that crosses the border illegally,
you have the right to deport that person, as every
country does, and we have a duty to accept that
person because that's a Mexican national. How about someone from Honduras,
how about someone from Haiti, how about someone from Thailand,
how about someone from Nicaragua Venezuela. And when Mexico is saying,
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what are you gonna do about that? And part of
the negotiations is we have to come up to some
kind of conclusion. Well, the Trump administration is saying you
shouldn't let them over the border in the first place.
If there is a third party, a Honduran of Guatemaland
that is at the border, then you and crosses in
the United States, then you, Mexico, are at fault. You
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have not secured your border. And if you haven't secured
your border, that means our border is not secured because
they're coming over illegally. And where do you deport them to?
And let's say you have Venezuela that says, no, thank you,
not taking them, now what?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And Mexico said, they're not Mexicans. So that's going to
be a very.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Interesting situation because there are people who just are sort
of in the middle and there's no place to deport them.
Up to this point, the United States has said, we're
we're throwing into Mexico and you worry about it. We're
driving him, we take a bus, and we don't care
at this point. Frankly, anybody who is whether Mexican or
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Central American, whatever, we're going to put him over and
in some cases put him on an airplane and fly them.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So that is a big issue.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And here is the negotiation that's going on, tariffs, terrorists, tariffs,
tariffs unless.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
In the millions of peopos.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
He has promised literally to deport millions of folks. So
that's going to be an interesting negotiation, to say the least.
So the easy one is fentanyl and human trafficking.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That one's simple.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
The more difficult one is Mexico avoiding receiving non Mexican
deport deportees.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And I don't know the answer to that. I don't
think they have answer.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So this has become a point that I don't know
can be dealt with so easily. Mexico doesn't want them,
but they're using Mexico as a transit point.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's the argument. The United States is saying, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They're going across Mexico, therefore you worry about it, and
we're gonna put them in Mexico. And what happens when
Mexico says no, thank you and locks the door of
the bus, literally just locks the door of the bus.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You're not getting out.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, couldn't we just lock the door that they're coming through.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
We try, We have, and that's the whole point. We
want border security, but people are going to come across.
They go across the desert, they go across the wall
that theoretically is going to be built thousands of miles,
which is not going to happen realistically. So when it
comes to the new Trumpe administration, it's gonna be a
combination of some legitimate activities coming forth of which can
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be done, and then a lot of pie in the sky.
We're gonna build a wall, you know, day one, We're
gonna throw everybody out.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
We're gonna pull out of NATO, We're going to It's.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Just a lot of that is just bluster, but based
on negotiating, assuming those are hard ball negotiation tactics. Don't
know the answer. Okay, let me tell you what's happening.
On a very serious note, what's going on in Gaza.
We know the horrors of the starvation and the fact
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that ninety five percent of Gaza or one hundred percent
has been displaced and eighty percent of the buildings have
been damaged or destroyed. Well, let me give you another
spin that we haven't talked about, and that is money, cash, money, money,
where's out? And what happens is in our case, money
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is collected by the banks when we go in, or
collected by vendor and it goes to the banks, and
then money is destroyed and the government prints money to
replace it. Well, there is no government and there are
no banks. Now we don't have to worry about printing
pressives in Gaza. Did you know that Gaza uses the
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shekel as its currency.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It doesn't have its own currency.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It uses the Israeli shekel as the currency of Gaza,
as other countries do in the Middle East, because that's
considered a real currency. So there is a well, a
new business right, a new skill set. And it's a
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story about Mohammad al Ashakar, a jeweler, and what he
does is repairs money, repairs bills because you fold.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Them, they wear out.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And there has been no money, no cash introduced into
gaza since October seventh, and the money is wearing out
and they put tape on it and vendors just won't
accept it. They just won't accept any cash anymore because
it's falling apart. So Ala Shakar takes an exact o knife,
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peels off the old tape, cleans the residue, applies transparent glue.
It's two hundred He does two hundred of these every
day because well, he has become a new type of worker,
the money repair man. And that's what's going on. They
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are almost no banks standing, ATMs are now inaccessible Israel
blocking the bills and coin transfers in and out. There
isn't any and people have been passing around the same
bills for more than a year and.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
They're tattered and they're fragile.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Most vendors won't accept worn out paper money, and there isn't.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Good paper money. Same thing with coins.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The ten sheckl coin, particularly susceptible to rust and wear
and tear. And now the rumors that these are in
many cases counterfeit.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, it is a mess over there.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Before the war, Gaza had ten banks, ten different banks,
fifty six branches, ninety ATMs. Ten percent remain operational, and
most people think's not even that the Bank of Palestine
has won one branch. Now, what's kind of ironic. Branches
in northern Gaza still have money in their vaults. There
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is money there, but they can't take it out because,
first of all.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Northern Gaza is empty.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's an area that Israel said you got the get
the hell out of here, so it's virtually an it's
an empty lot.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And even to get the money out of.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Those vaults, they're under all of this rubble. It would
take heavy moving equipment just to get the vaults out,
and transporting cash, well, there's no fuel for the trucks.
There is no cash to put money in the trucks.
And then when somehow money is out there, gangs and looters,
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they are going out of their minds, or the people
are going out in their minds because the bad guys
are coming out. Now you wonder and there's always a
story about looters whenever there is a short storage shortage.
So there are people that do have cash, and there
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are money brokers. You know, one way of getting cash
if you have accounts at banks, for example, and you
can get them on your ATM, you can get them
on your cell phone and transfer money. I mean that's
still available to some residents of Gaza. And so there
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is an industry now known as vendor cashiers where they
actually have money that can be used.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Money is transferred in on apps.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
They provide money and they only charge a twenty eight
percent commission. So for every shekel that comes out ten shekels,
two shekels and eighty whatever they call the pennies. I
have no idea there's one of these money brokers has
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more than ten thousand shekels. We're talking about twenty seven
hundred dollars in these ten shekel coins. No one even
wants them because the fear is that they are not genuine.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So it is horrific for the people of Gaza.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Even the few ATMs that are out there very few,
and people have money at that bank and are able
to take out some money, and it is not completely
I mean we're talking about gossamer thin the money has
actually worn out. They charge people to take out their money.
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These are bad guys who guard the ATMs as if
they were theirs and charge thirty percent. You know, at
some point the people of Gaza are going to stand
up and say, maybe it was a mistake to attack
Israel on October seventh.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Haven't heard it yet, by the way.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And is it because the citizens of Gaza truly believe
that Hamas did nothing wrong, or because they're so frightened
of saying anything, because that's the way the government of
Gaza works. And unfortunately, look at how many innocent civilians.
About a third of the people that died are militants.
So I don't care about those, But you've got women
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and children who are caught in the crossfire. You've got
Hamas using civilians as human shields, and you have a
government of Netanyahu who does not want to talk to
anybody and says unless those hostages are released, nothing is happening.
And Hamas says, we're not releasing the hostages, and the
war goes over.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's going to be a point where there will not.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Be a building left standing in Gossa, not one and
now what all right? A quick word about food recalls.
In the past three months, twenty six foods have been
recalled and a couple of deaths, one death with the
equal ie from carrots. And this is a good thing,
not the death necessarily, but the recall themselves. Why are
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there more recalls? How come it can be a good thing. Well,
we're just getting better at finding the problem with products.
That's the good news is we're catching more of them earlier.
The sciences there it's astounding when you think about it.
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Let's say you have a carrot or a group of
carrots that are now contaminated. Through some investigation, they can
find out not what area, not only what farm, almost
what row those carrots grew in, and find the contamination
that didn't happen before. And so you would have contamination
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that we'd go through and people would get sick and
they couldn't figure out why, and they couldn't figure out
where what to recall until way late.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
So the argument is it's both good news and bad news.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Bad news because there's too many places where contamination take place.
It's not farm to table, it's not farm to store,
it's farm to processing centers. Distribution centers, retail stores. So
there are many places where contamination can take place. We
are just better at doing it now, are there a lot? Well,
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across the United States it went from five point fifty
four to five forty seven, not a lot. And when
you think about the number of recalls and the amount
of food and the number of products that we eat,
you know, that's not much unless you're the one that
get sick. No surprise, California has the highest percentage of
recall notices forty percent.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And why is that? Because we grow all the food.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And you have these You know, raspberries carry weird diseases.
Remember romaine lettuce, You couldn't eat it for a while.
Carrots is a big problem right now, Neil, What do
you not eat right now?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Me personally?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, yeah, because of the issue. Or do you even
the possibility.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I had carrots this weekend. I'm pretty comfortable. The only
thing I never ever eat is raw sprouts, bean sprouts
and the like. They are probably one of the filthiest
foods out there. How about raw milk, I would never
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drink raw milk. I don't think that the benefits that
people swear by are big enough for the issues that
come with it. And raw milk, of course, is not
heated to the one hundred and forty one degrees of pasteurization. Yes,
pasteurization kills and destroy certain nutrients like but to me,
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there's still enough left for it to be worth it.
But those are I've never understood the raw milk thing
other than I get the theory behind it. But under
the way cows are treated now versus you know before,
it just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
How about Chipotle burritos. You know what's funny. That's not fair.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Because they did take I mean, that was one instance
they took care of.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I will tell you what the issue with Chipotle is
they use fresh ingredients.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, that makes sense. And when you do that, when you.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Use fresh, uncooked certain type lettuce things like that, you're
gonna get nailed on occasion.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
That's just and by the way, they took care, to
be fair, they took care of it very quickly. But
what a hit that was for them In the world
of pr that was that was any call a hit. Okay,
we're done, guys. This is KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
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Speaker 2 (22:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bill handle here on a Monday, December ninth, As we're
just around the corner of the two days of the
holiday season, Christmas and the beginning of the year. Some
of the big stories that we are following. Bashar al Asad,
the Syrian president, the strong man has been overthrown. Rebels
(00:29):
came in an enlightening speed overthrew his government. It was
forty years of brutality and he immediately got on an
airplane as this thing was happening and went to Russia
where he was granted asylum. Also on a fun note,
Merriam Webster's word of the year is polarization, which kind
(00:52):
of makes sense, doesn't it. And that's according to the
Mirriam Webster Dictionary. It's a little different with the Oxford Dictionary.
And if you look at the Yiddish American Dictionary the
word of the Irish schwuntz, which is used quite often.
(01:12):
Don't give me that look, Neil can't hear you, can't
hear you.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You don't have a microphone on, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The story of the manhunt for the United Healthcare CEO.
This has been going on all week. This is an
extraordinary story. You have a man that was waiting for
the CEO, who is walking into a hotel early in
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the morning to address a group of investors and he
is shot in the back. He's shot in the back
of the head and dies instantly. And you have the
shooter who has disappeared, probably left Manhattan, got on an
ee bike, went through Central Park, got on a bus,
grabbed a taxi.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He took a bus and he is out of Dodge.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Now here is what's so strange about this.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
This was a cold blooded killing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It looks like it was in retaliation for something that
happened to him or his family because on the casings,
the bullet casings were the word depose, deny.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Delay, which is.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Sort of an attack on insurance companies because that's what
they do.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They don't like to pay up.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And so what's happening is this guy has become a
quase folk hero.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
There.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You go to social media and there are tons of
people who are saying he is a hero, because that's
how detested insurance companies are in this country. Story after
story of people who have been denied coverage. We did
a story, what was it Friday about Anthem deciding that
(03:04):
if a surgery goes too long, according to them, they're not.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Going to pay for anesthesia. Nope, you're sort of on
your own.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And of course the backlash was so extraordinary they pulled
that back immediately and then came up with some corporate
clap trap to describe even the people that are in
favor of the police catching this guy cold blooded murder
right out are now being vilified on the on social media.
(03:37):
And this is it is so part of I think,
and they're trying the sociologists are trying to analogize this.
This is part of the populism that the Republicans, in
particularly Donald Trump has got to the brought to the table.
By the way, there's no value judgment here here. It
is simply a let's take a look at it. Donald
Trump won on populism, and that is the people are
(04:01):
getting screwed by the big players. In this case, it
is completely legitimate that people are getting screwed by insurance companies. Now,
if you're going to argue on behalf of insurance companies,
there are plenty of years where they make no money.
For example, if you look at California and try to
(04:24):
get fire insurance. Either you don't get it, it's not renewed,
or in my case, my policy for fire insurance insurance
more than doubled and I'm screaming, look what happens. And
the insurer says.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're losing money in California.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So the argument is the insurance companies don't make enough money.
Now the fact is they're making tons of money. So
that argument doesn't hold water. But the interesting part is
how this guy has become a hero.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You remember or Goats.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Whatever his name is, goe Tz on the subway he
shot that kid who is now paralyzed in a wheelchair,
and the kid who was a group of people came
at him with a screwdriver and he just took out
a gun and shot him.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Right, he became a hero.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think he was later on either convicted of a
misdemeanor or was they didn't file charges, or was acquitted.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I don't know the story. But he shot someone and
became a hero. There was a whole movement there. Well
here it is.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And by the way, this is not self defense. This
is shooting a guy in the back and a head
and down he goes. So the story here is how
many people are saying, yep, he represents us because of
our hatred for insurance companies.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
An interesting spid.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All right, there is a of course, there is the
president XCO new when Claudia Shinbaum has already talked to
Donald Trump, as has Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada, and
both ar caving now. And this is where Donald Trump
uses some hardball negotiating tactics, which in many cases, my
(06:20):
opinion works works to the benefit of the United States.
And I've gone through it with NATO and a few
other things and a few other subjects. But here is
there's two things going on with Mexico. One is we
know about it, and this is the amount of fentanyl
coming in and the illegal aliens that are coming in
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and the criminals that are coming in not so many,
but still the fentanyl part of it is absolute, and
the human trafficking is absolute. And so the President elect
wants to do something about that and is pushing really
hard on Mexico with the use of terrorists or at
least the threat of terrace. There is another part of
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the border, and that is when the illegal migrants get deported,
where do they go?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And what shine by him.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Is arguing is you the United States are transporting all
of these illegal migrants.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
To Mexico and they're not Mexicans. Now we have a
duty right, we have no problem.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
We have a Mexican national that crosses the border illegally,
you have the right to deport that person, as every
country does, and we have a duty to accept that
person because that's a Mexican national. How about someone from Honduras,
how about someone from Haiti, how about someone from Thailand,
how about someone from Nicaragua Venezuela. And when Mexico is saying,
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what are you gonna do about that? And part of
the negotiations is we have to come up to some
kind of conclusion. Well, the Trump administration is saying you
shouldn't let them over the border in the first place.
If there is a third party, a Honduran of Guatemaland
that is at the border, then you and crosses in
the United States, then you, Mexico, are at fault. You
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have not secured your border. And if you haven't secured
your border, that means our border is not secured because
they're coming over illegally. And where do you deport them to?
And let's say you have Venezuela that says, no, thank you,
not taking them, now what?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And Mexico said, they're not Mexicans. So that's going to
be a very.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Interesting situation because there are people who just are sort
of in the middle and there's no place to deport them.
Up to this point, the United States has said, we're
we're throwing into Mexico and you worry about it. We're
driving him, we take a bus, and we don't care
at this point. Frankly, anybody who is whether Mexican or
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Central American, whatever, we're going to put him over and
in some cases put him on an airplane and fly them.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So that is a big issue.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And here is the negotiation that's going on, tariffs, terrorists, tariffs,
tariffs unless.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
In the millions of peopos.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
He has promised literally to deport millions of folks. So
that's going to be an interesting negotiation, to say the least.
So the easy one is fentanyl and human trafficking.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
That one's simple.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
The more difficult one is Mexico avoiding receiving non Mexican
deport deportees.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And I don't know the answer to that. I don't
think they have answer.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So this has become a point that I don't know
can be dealt with so easily. Mexico doesn't want them,
but they're using Mexico as a transit point.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's the argument. The United States is saying, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
They're going across Mexico, therefore you worry about it, and
we're gonna put them in Mexico. And what happens when
Mexico says no, thank you and locks the door of
the bus, literally just locks the door of the bus.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You're not getting out.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, couldn't we just lock the door that they're coming through.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
We try, We have, and that's the whole point. We
want border security, but people are going to come across.
They go across the desert, they go across the wall
that theoretically is going to be built thousands of miles,
which is not going to happen realistically. So when it
comes to the new Trumpe administration, it's gonna be a
combination of some legitimate activities coming forth of which can
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be done, and then a lot of pie in the sky.
We're gonna build a wall, you know, day one, We're
gonna throw everybody out.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
We're gonna pull out of NATO, We're going to It's.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Just a lot of that is just bluster, but based
on negotiating, assuming those are hard ball negotiation tactics. Don't
know the answer. Okay, let me tell you what's happening.
On a very serious note, what's going on in Gaza.
We know the horrors of the starvation and the fact
(11:33):
that ninety five percent of Gaza or one hundred percent
has been displaced and eighty percent of the buildings have
been damaged or destroyed. Well, let me give you another
spin that we haven't talked about, and that is money, cash, money, money,
where's out? And what happens is in our case, money
(11:56):
is collected by the banks when we go in, or
collected by vendor and it goes to the banks, and
then money is destroyed and the government prints money to
replace it. Well, there is no government and there are
no banks. Now we don't have to worry about printing
pressives in Gaza. Did you know that Gaza uses the
(12:17):
shekel as its currency.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It doesn't have its own currency.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It uses the Israeli shekel as the currency of Gaza,
as other countries do in the Middle East, because that's
considered a real currency. So there is a well, a
new business right, a new skill set. And it's a
(12:43):
story about Mohammad al Ashakar, a jeweler, and what he
does is repairs money, repairs bills because you fold.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Them, they wear out.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And there has been no money, no cash introduced into
gaza since October seventh, and the money is wearing out
and they put tape on it and vendors just won't
accept it. They just won't accept any cash anymore because
it's falling apart. So Ala Shakar takes an exact o knife,
(13:17):
peels off the old tape, cleans the residue, applies transparent glue.
It's two hundred He does two hundred of these every
day because well, he has become a new type of worker,
the money repair man. And that's what's going on. They
(13:38):
are almost no banks standing, ATMs are now inaccessible Israel
blocking the bills and coin transfers in and out. There
isn't any and people have been passing around the same
bills for more than a year and.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
They're tattered and they're fragile.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Most vendors won't accept worn out paper money, and there isn't.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Good paper money. Same thing with coins.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The ten sheckl coin, particularly susceptible to rust and wear
and tear. And now the rumors that these are in
many cases counterfeit.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, it is a mess over there.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Before the war, Gaza had ten banks, ten different banks,
fifty six branches, ninety ATMs. Ten percent remain operational, and
most people think's not even that the Bank of Palestine
has won one branch. Now, what's kind of ironic. Branches
in northern Gaza still have money in their vaults. There
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is money there, but they can't take it out because,
first of all.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Northern Gaza is empty.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's an area that Israel said you got the get
the hell out of here, so it's virtually an it's
an empty lot.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And even to get the money out of.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Those vaults, they're under all of this rubble. It would
take heavy moving equipment just to get the vaults out,
and transporting cash, well, there's no fuel for the trucks.
There is no cash to put money in the trucks.
And then when somehow money is out there, gangs and looters,
(15:24):
they are going out of their minds, or the people
are going out in their minds because the bad guys
are coming out. Now you wonder and there's always a
story about looters whenever there is a short storage shortage.
So there are people that do have cash, and there
(15:46):
are money brokers. You know, one way of getting cash
if you have accounts at banks, for example, and you
can get them on your ATM, you can get them
on your cell phone and transfer money. I mean that's
still available to some residents of Gaza. And so there
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is an industry now known as vendor cashiers where they
actually have money that can be used.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Money is transferred in on apps.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
They provide money and they only charge a twenty eight
percent commission. So for every shekel that comes out ten shekels,
two shekels and eighty whatever they call the pennies. I
have no idea there's one of these money brokers has
(16:42):
more than ten thousand shekels. We're talking about twenty seven
hundred dollars in these ten shekel coins. No one even
wants them because the fear is that they are not genuine.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So it is horrific for the people of Gaza.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Even the few ATMs that are out there very few,
and people have money at that bank and are able
to take out some money, and it is not completely
I mean we're talking about gossamer thin the money has
actually worn out. They charge people to take out their money.
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These are bad guys who guard the ATMs as if
they were theirs and charge thirty percent. You know, at
some point the people of Gaza are going to stand
up and say, maybe it was a mistake to attack
Israel on October seventh.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Haven't heard it yet, by the way.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And is it because the citizens of Gaza truly believe
that Hamas did nothing wrong, or because they're so frightened
of saying anything, because that's the way the government of
Gaza works. And unfortunately, look at how many innocent civilians.
About a third of the people that died are militants.
So I don't care about those, But you've got women
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and children who are caught in the crossfire. You've got
Hamas using civilians as human shields, and you have a
government of Netanyahu who does not want to talk to
anybody and says unless those hostages are released, nothing is happening.
And Hamas says, we're not releasing the hostages, and the
war goes over.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's going to be a point where there will not.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Be a building left standing in Gossa, not one and
now what all right? A quick word about food recalls.
In the past three months, twenty six foods have been
recalled and a couple of deaths, one death with the
equal ie from carrots. And this is a good thing,
not the death necessarily, but the recall themselves. Why are
(18:48):
there more recalls? How come it can be a good thing. Well,
we're just getting better at finding the problem with products.
That's the good news is we're catching more of them earlier.
The sciences there it's astounding when you think about it.
(19:10):
Let's say you have a carrot or a group of
carrots that are now contaminated. Through some investigation, they can
find out not what area, not only what farm, almost
what row those carrots grew in, and find the contamination
that didn't happen before. And so you would have contamination
(19:31):
that we'd go through and people would get sick and
they couldn't figure out why, and they couldn't figure out
where what to recall until way late.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
So the argument is it's both good news and bad news.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Bad news because there's too many places where contamination take place.
It's not farm to table, it's not farm to store,
it's farm to processing centers. Distribution centers, retail stores. So
there are many places where contamination can take place. We
are just better at doing it now, are there a lot? Well,
(20:08):
across the United States it went from five point fifty
four to five forty seven, not a lot. And when
you think about the number of recalls and the amount
of food and the number of products that we eat,
you know, that's not much unless you're the one that
get sick. No surprise, California has the highest percentage of
recall notices forty percent.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And why is that? Because we grow all the food.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And you have these You know, raspberries carry weird diseases.
Remember romaine lettuce, You couldn't eat it for a while.
Carrots is a big problem right now, Neil, What do
you not eat right now?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Me personally?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, yeah, because of the issue. Or do you even
the possibility.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I had carrots this weekend. I'm pretty comfortable. The only
thing I never ever eat is raw sprouts, bean sprouts
and the like. They are probably one of the filthiest
foods out there. How about raw milk, I would never
(21:21):
drink raw milk. I don't think that the benefits that
people swear by are big enough for the issues that
come with it. And raw milk, of course, is not
heated to the one hundred and forty one degrees of pasteurization. Yes,
pasteurization kills and destroy certain nutrients like but to me,
(21:45):
there's still enough left for it to be worth it.
But those are I've never understood the raw milk thing
other than I get the theory behind it. But under
the way cows are treated now versus you know before,
it just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
How about Chipotle burritos. You know what's funny. That's not fair.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Because they did take I mean, that was one instance
they took care of.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I will tell you what the issue with Chipotle is
they use fresh ingredients.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, that makes sense. And when you do that, when you.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Use fresh, uncooked certain type lettuce things like that, you're
gonna get nailed on occasion.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
That's just and by the way, they took care, to
be fair, they took care of it very quickly. But
what a hit that was for them In the world
of pr that was that was any call a hit. Okay,
we're done, guys. This is KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
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