December 27, 2024 • 30 mins
Wayne Resnick fills in for Bill Handel all this week. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Wayne about Whooping Cough surging across US, Bird Flu concerns, and the world’s most common pain relief drug may induce ‘risky behavior.’ Host of ’15 Minute Foodie’ Nick Pagliochini closes the show discussing NYE planning, spiritless spirits, Taco Bell chicken nuggets, and 2024’s “Best Of” in food.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's the Bill Handles Show.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wayne Resnick sitting in Bill's on holiday vacation, and we
are pleased to bring on.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bring back.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Our medical expert, doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer at
Dignity Health Saint Mary Medical Center, right down there in
Long Beach. Welcome back, doctor Jim.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Morning, Wayne, How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That was very you know, that was perfunctory. That was
perfunctory and pro forma. And I apologize because you deserve
better than a perfunctory greeting.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm I'm fantastic. All right, So we have a lot
of things to talk about, and the first thing I
want to talk about is there is apparently a certain drug,
a painkilling drug, that causes some people to engage in
risky behavior. So can you tell us the drug, what
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what is meant by engaging in risky behavior? And what
if anything medical science knows about why it does it
to some people?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well, so the number one the drug is acetamnefit, which
is probably the most common drug. Almost every you know,
medicine cabinet across the country has some form of this
in the medicine cabinet and they say that up to
twenty five percent of the people have taken it in
the last week. So super common medication that people take
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from mild pains, headaches, things like that. It's you know,
sold under the brand name of Thail and all in
Europe it's called paracetamol, so you know, that's it's a
common thing in common medicine that almost everybody's taking. The
effect is very small though it's mild, and so I mean,
the way they do a test like this is they'll
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have a balloon that's that's blowing up in front of
the person that's being tested and they're supposed to and
it's like right in front of their face, so if
it pops, it's kind of stressful for them. And so
they'll they have them they have to push a button
when they want it to stop blowing up, and they
want to see how long the person can go before
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they push that button. And it turns out that when
you give somebody a test like that, they're less worried
about the outcome. They're just less worried about the balloon popping,
and so they definitely hit it later. They're willing to
push things a little bit further when they're on a
paracetamol or acet of medicine than when they're not. And
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that's what they found. This is not like alcohol, where
all of a sudden you think you can know fly
and or you know you're going to do crazy stuff
if you're really intoxicated. It's more of a mild effect.
But the concern is you've got this very mild effect
across a huge, you know, section of the population.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, I can think of an example from my
own life. I don't think it was because I was
taking Thailand all, but for example, this kind of mild
reduction in your perception of danger or risk might be, oh,
the brownies are ready, I don't need a I don't
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need a potholder. I'll just reach in with my bare
arm and and get those brownies.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Out right exactly, you know. Or I don't need to
wait for the light to turn green. I can you know,
I can just zip across while it's still red. Oh my,
you know, you know, things like that where you know,
it seems like a minor decision and as major you know,
potential complications.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So the interesting thing is, of course you explained the study,
but how did they.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Get to wanting to do the study.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
They must have had some indication or some why would
why did they want to test this?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, you know, I'm
not sure why they would want to test it, But
I do think that what they did was test you know,
multiple different drugs. But I mean I think that what
they're looking for is, all right, do we have certain
drugs that are really common in our society that may
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have these subtle effects? And I think when you look
at what are the most common drugs that people are
on Thailand, all is at the top of the list.
So that would be the first one you'd want to test.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Okay, that makes sense because there's certain things that we know,
you know, alcohol and the things it's like that we
already know people who get drunk, they often take very
big risks. And the concern being what about these subtler
things where people are in not really huge danger of
doing anything drastically dangerous, but possibly in danger of just
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having their judgment just the slightest bit impaired that could
end up with I don't know, a smashed thumb with
a hammer or or something like that. And I was
that when I saw the headline, I thought, Oh, what
what obscure? What obscure drug is this story going to
be about? And it turns out to be a set
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of medafine I E. Tailand all in the United States
brand name, which is so incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean, I took some Thailand oil yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean, and think about I know people that
will premedicate before they go out to you know, socially,
right so that they're worried they're going to get a
headache or they're worried they're going to get a hangover,
and they'll take tilt off before they go out socially.
And now what if that lowers their inhibition and no
U that they either drink too much and now have
a serious drug on board that can actually all through
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your decision making, or they you know, they don't think
twice about getting in a stranger's car, or you know
what other little things that might change their behaviors in
ways that And it's mind blowing when you think about it.
I mean, I always thought about those at parties because
I never used to drink caffeine. Now that's changed, but
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I never drank caffeine under about age forty, and I
go places where people are drinking coffee and tea and
you realize you're the only one not on this drug.
And you realize that people have a little bit more
pressured speech when they talk when they're on caffeine. They
talk faster, they are more animated, and you're kind of
the boring guy in the corner, not so dynamic on caffeine.
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So you know, I think about those type of things
and you think, Wow, you wonder are we all are
we so used to people on Thailand all that we
don't recognize the change.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I want to say two things.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
One, I just want you to know as a doctor
that when I took the tailan All I already had
a headache. I was not gearing up for a night
on the town. It was a responsible use. And number two,
see I didn't make that connection that it can start
with a slight effect from something benign like tailand All
that could then lead to something that becomes a big problem.
(07:28):
And you did, and that's why you keep getting promoted
in the world of medicine because you have that kind
of mind who can really see the ramifications of something
like this. So kudos to you, now, doctor Jim. Let's
get into this. Apparently, at least in some doctor's offices,
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when you show up, whether it's a routine appointment or oops,
my elbow hurts, they're not weighing you anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, it's a new trend.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
To I have this year been to and everything's fine.
But I've been to you know, primary care physician.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Oh, they weighed me.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I went to a cardiologist weighed me, gave me a lecture,
weighed me and gave me a lecture about it. And
a neurologist, a neurosurgeon weighed me. I felt this was
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excessive weighing of me, and now somebody agrees.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
What's the thought now that maybe you don't have to
weigh people every time they come in?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, I mean I agree with this. I think it's
it's kind of silly to weigh somebody every single time
they come in unless that's the issue, right, unless that's
what they're coming in for. It's gone to a point
now where doctors are just like the person you go
to to have them write up prescription either to go
get a test or write a prescription for you to
(09:04):
get a medicine or a shot or something. Right, that's
what people seem to want to go to the doctor
for now. They don't care about the doctor's advice or
opinion a lot of the times because we go off
on a tangent and we're not addressing the real issue
for why they decided to come to the doctor. So,
I mean we had to be more relevant. I think
we really do need to start listening to patients more
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listening to what their concerns are, and I think not
wanging patients. It shifts the narrative, right, It shifts it
from you've lost control here now in my office and
I'm going to do whatever I want to you, and
it changes it to you've come to my office for advice.
How can I help you? Right, if you went to
an architect, you wouldn't go in there and say, you know,
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the guy wouldn't take control and say I'm going to
build you this. I don't care what you want. This
is good for you, you know. So we've got to
have more of that service mindset. Yeah, of course, way
is a big issue, but if the patient's not interested
in addressing it. You know, It's like when I talk
to people out smoking, I say, look, you know, obviously
I'm sure you've heard smoking's bad for you. Do you
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want to talk about that or are you not really
interested in quitting? Because I don't want to waste any
time with you if that's not where you're at. And
persons a lot of times will say no, I mean
more and are more common conversation about alcohol about you know,
they're there for something related to alcohol, having you know,
messed up their life that day and have that conversation
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and they say no, I don't want to have that conversation.
I say, fine, okay, let me sew up your you know,
your forehead and we'll get you on your way. So
it's along in those lines, right. We have to foster trust.
We have to alleviate the anxiety of going to the
doctor for people where WIT is their concern, and if
they do want to address it, fine, but if they don't,
then let's just deal with you know, what they're coming
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in for.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Do we now have two schools of thought that are
butting up against each other, whereas some in the medical
community are feel the way that you feel about it.
But we still have a lot of doctors who think
that somehow weight is a vital metric that likes a
vital sign. Right, they take your blood pressure every time
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you go. I don't hear anybody saying, hey, man, if
they're not here for high blood pressure, there's no need
to take their blood pressure. And there are a lot
of doctors I think who just believe weight is a
vital sign that should be taken. So is there now
any bickering going on about whether one side should change?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's probably some conversations going
on when those conversations come up. But you know, doctors
are people like everything else, and so we all have
different opinions on this, just like a crowd of people would.
And you know, to use your example for blood pressure
people a lot of times they have no clue, right,
I see skinny healthy. In fact, you know, my son's
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working on, you know, becoming a paramedic, and he was
practicing blood pressures with the neighbors and he find this
one neighbor who is very fit, very thin, eats incredibly healthy,
found out that her blood pressure was high. There's no
way she would have known unless somebody took her blood
pressure she wanted, so the doctor sure enough confirmed it,
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and you know, now she's getting treated for high blood pressure.
Weight's a little different than that, right, most people get it.
I mean I haven't met a lot of people that
are overweight that don't. Yeah, I met people that are
that are not overweight that think they're overweight. But I
haven't met a lot of people that are overweight that think, no, no, no,
I'm not overweight. You know, I'm exactly the right weight.
So I think it's a little bit more obvious. And yeah,
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I mean we're not talking about never having the conversation again.
Like I said with the alcoholic or smoking cessation, it's fine.
Once you get somebody back in the office, you're talking
to them, you developed some level of rapport, and now
you say to them, hey, you know, do you want
to talk about your weight at all? And if they
say no, they say, okay, fine, you know, and and
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so that's different because you'll lose the ability to treat
every other disease once they say, you know, either they
say I don't want to come back to you, or
subconsciously they're like, this is just too stressful for me.
I don't want to go to a place where they're
going to basically wait, shame me every time I show
up the office, and so they just won't come back.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I like your approach a lot better than the cardiologist
in the bow ties approach.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I'll tell you that, right, mariologist approaches what we've been
doing for years, right, and that hasn't really well. You
know that they came along and saved us all from
from doctors doing help.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It leads with me, let's take a minute, a minute
and a half here, just because earlier this year, I
don't remember precisely when it was, but I was filling
in and you came on and and in the story was, hey,
whooping cough is starting to really get around again. And
here we are now again whooping cough secrets are surging.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
That's it about whooping cough is we get a heads up,
you know, So we get this early in the season,
we said, whoa wait a second. You know, we've got
like three hundred cases, which is three times more at
that stage, like you, normally we would expect it one
hundred cases by the spring, and we had three hundred
that's a bad sign because it tends to just continue
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at that level for the rest of the year, and
this year it has continued. We're about three times the
normal level of whipping cough. We haven't seen this since
something like twenty ten at this level, and it looks
like we'll exceed that level of twenty ten. And if
you take the last say six years and add them
all up, they don't add up to the number of
cases we've had just so far this year. Whooping cough
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is included. It's pertussis, so it's included in the DPT
shot that children get, but now when adults get their
tennis shot too, it's t DApp is the the technish
you get and that has whooping cough in it because
you do lose the immunity to it. And it's been
a very effective vaccine to help people not get whipping cough.
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Kids used to be out of school forever. It's a
treatable disease. It's not a virus, it's a bacteria. So
if you catch it early, you can treat it with antibiotics.
But if you don't catch it early, it's the first
stage is just like a flu like illness and the
second stage is this wild cough that goes on for
weeks or months and people break ribs. They cost so hard,
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and young children cought so hard they lose oxygen and
they have to be admitted of the hospital because they
can't maintain their oxygen.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Holy smokes.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Now, so you say, the early stage just seems like
a flu. At that stage, could you be swabbed or
something to just rule out that it's whooping costs exactly?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So, like you know, when you have an outit we
don't do that every year, but when you have an
outbreak like this and you see people with with the
symptoms that look like early whooping cough, well then you
jump on giving them antibiotics, even though it may look
a little bit like a viral illness. Early on, you say, look,
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we're in the middle of an outbreak of whooping cough.
So you give them the antibiotics so that you don't
get to that whooping cough stage. You know that you
get to the you only get to the pre stages
and you can abort it before it gets that bad.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
All right, So that's the good news about it. Doctor
Jim always wonderful to talk to. You will be pleased
to talk to you next week as well. Thank you
so much. Take care all right, Doctor Jim Keeney, chief
medical officer at Dignity hell Saint Mary Medical Center in
Long Beach. Guess who's here? Nick Palio, Kenny the fifteen
Minute Footy.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Hello, sir, Hey, they're Wayne Resnik. It's a pleasure to
hear you and that bumper music. I want to sing
about fifteen or chicken nuggets? You got to sing along?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, I don't know anybody who doesn't. I don't know
anybody who does like chicken nuggets now.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Oh, I'm sure we can find a few. But anyway,
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So, I know one of the things that you did,
maybe maybe we should do this right now. Yeah, yeah,
Because one of the things you just did is you
taste tested the new chicken nuggets from Taco Bell.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So why don't you quickly give us your review of those?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Okay, I can totally do that. So this year we've
seen a lot of different things that have happened, and
the chicken nuggets have been on again, off again at
every single food retailer around the south Land and beyond,
and it's kind of funny to think that Taco Bell
has now get gotten in on the action. So last
night went out and tried it. Actually came out a
little bit earlier this month, and the chicken nuggets is
crazy to think because you're like Taco Bell. Okay, Well,
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Taco Bell finds its home in Irvine, California, and they
decided to jump on the bandwagon. And so it's all
white meat chicken, so breast meat chicken, and it is
marinated in buttermilk and Palapanio's and it is dusted in
crumbled up tortilla chips and it's delicious. I'm not kidding you.
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You need to go out today and give it a
shot now. And it's one of those limited time menu
items and there are three special sauces that you can
try it with.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Two of them love.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
They have a Bell sauce, which I am going to
say is kind of like a kicked up version of
the Enchilada sauce. They also have a Hidden Valley Ranch
fire sauce, so it's pretty much just hit a Valley
Ranch and the fire packet that they match together.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's delicious. They also do have a.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Hob and narrow honey mustard not a big fan of it,
but some people love it.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's the option. So I say, give it a shot.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Delicious, well worth you giving that sample, And that is
my fifteen minute quick foody review for you there. So yeah,
I think it's a well worth a shot up against
Chick fil a and Canes and you name the nuggets
that are out there. I mean, obviously chicken nuggets delicious,
but yeah, I mean everybody's gotten on the bandwagon. Do
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you have a favorite Wayne? Do you like a Is
there some kind of nugget pressed chicken nugget nugget? Yeah,
like a compressed chicken composite kind of thing that you like?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Not no, because for me, they're all I'm very egalitarian.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Man. If it's if it's a nugget of chicken, whether
it's whole muscle meat or it's some kind of paste
that has been nuggetified, as long as it's some semblance
of chicken inside and some kind of a coating on
the outside. Because honestly, nuggets are merely a conveyance for
a sauce.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
See okay now, but then let that's an even better question.
So what's your favorite dipping sauce? Because that's a there's
always like lots of opinions on this.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What do you like McDonald's sweet and sour?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Really? Okay?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
And always that has always been because I mean they've
had like a Kung pou sauce. They've had different variation
on those sweet and sour sauce over the years for McDonald's.
Every time a movie comes out, they've got some different
variation on it. So it is it just old school
sweet and sour for you?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But I hear the judgment in your voice at me
a little bit for liking such I guess what you
consider to be a pedestrian sauce. But if you've got
a nugget, man, I'll take that McDonald's sweet and sour
sauce every day of the week.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
But see, I love the pedestrian barbecue sauce for McDonald's.
I mean that would be my pedestrian dipper. Because you
judging I'm not. The funnier part is now to talk
about dipping sauces. I've got a half gallon of McDonald's
barbecue sauce sitting in my kitchen right now.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Now.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I sound like Neil Savadra, but that's actually was sent
to me by McDonald's because it was part of their
McRib special, kind of their nostalgia kickback when they brought
the McRib back for the holiday season and it's they
send it out to me in an ugly Christmas sweater
dressed half gallon jug so that I could make something
with it, and I actually made you'll have to check
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out fifteen minute footy on Instagram. I made a big,
massive meat loaf with it. So but yeah, I just
I don't know. I like try all the different things
they had, like a Seschuan peppercorn sweet and sour sauce
a while back, and I can't remember what movie came
out with McDonald's, but that was kind of like my
kicked out version that I really enjoyed the sweet and
sour sauce for McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
All right, but I'm not going for any of their stunt.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I'm not going for any there's some stuns come on, like.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The stunts and the limited availability and all of that nonsense.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Do not There's no point.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
There's no point in showing me a sauce that's not
going to exist three months from now.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
That's true, but see you kind of falling for it.
That fun unique limited availability. It's always that kind of
that tie in and that fun, exciting, you know, moment
that you hopefully will come back or hope we'll come
back at some point in time down the road.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well that just you're just a more fun person than me.
All right, listen, we have one minute right this segment. Okay,
so minute since yes, oh you no, you direct the segment?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Go ahead, Okay, So I want to do real quick
to talk about some of the top food trends that
we had in twenty twenty four. One was returned to
home cooking, so a lot of folks went to actually
home cooking, but it wasn't the home cooking that we
knew from back in the day. It was kind of
that Rachel Ray thirty minutes or less, or maybe the
Sandra Lee version, which was seventy percent home bought or
you know, like prepared and then thirty percent fresh. But also,
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just like we've already been talking, lots of the Soldier
was happening. And the one thing that I wanted to
give a big shout out to producer Michelle was that
the Arbus potato cakes came back finally from Oliver begging
and pleading for the sixtieth anniversary. So that was the
most important thing. I want to make sure that we
talked about here. Of all the food trends, that's all
I cared about, just for Michelle.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I heard it.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yes there, oh, the greatest things ever.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
And they went away too quickly, right, No, yeah, but
they hopefully will come back. So again, talking about all
those things that went away and came back and went
away and came back. I hope, hope, hope, Just like Michelle,
they weren't as good as the originals, but they were
pretty darn close, right.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They were, so hopefully they won't back. Was that an
lto or are they back permanently?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, No, they were lto and then they will hopefully
be back in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That's that's the kind of BS I'm talking about. No,
thank you, you fall Look, this is like if what
if people what if people were a limited time offer? Yes, okay,
what if we had people like this and then you
meet somebody and you fall madly in love you like,
I'm like God, this is the greatest person ever in
this world. Oh yeah, well it's a limited time offer.
Now they don't exist. Maybe they'll come back, Maybe we'll
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bring them make God is telling you maybe I'll bring
them back.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
It's ridiculous holiday music over on coast. You know it'll
come back next season, next year.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
This is Foody Friday.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
We're talking to the fifteen minute Foody Nick Paliochini.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
As people are getting prepared for their New Year's Eve celebrations,
they have more alcohol free cocktail options than ever before.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Tell us, Yes, so, back in twenty seventeen, I myself
decided to put hang up the party, if you will,
and decided to not drink anymore. And so at that
point in time, I was always looking for something to
you know, I've never white knuckled it, but always wanted
to find an option that was a little bit more
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than just you know, a tonic and lime or you know,
a diet soda and lemon.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
So always keeping an eye out for it.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
And when I go out and about around the Southland
for all the events that I cover, I like to
try to check in and see what there are. And
this year, more than ever, there's so many many options
for you. Before it used to be just a handful
of things that were not very tasty, and they weren't
really great options and it was mostly just you know,
non alcoholic beer from the major providers. But now there's
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a lot of different options, including some really delicious wines
and some spirits. In fact, there's a place over in
play of Vista, So if you're familiar with Silicon Beach,
which is where kind of our southern California version of
Silicon Valley up north dry Kit which is a store
that specializes specifically in non alcoholic wines and spirits, And
(25:14):
I ran into the husband and wife that run the shop,
and they actually have spirits that are no octane, that
have no alcohol in them, and they're delicious and that
are really a one for one exchange for whiskey or
gin or if you're looking for tequila. It depends on
whatever you may want. And what it really is that
caught my eye when I was heading through this event
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called Unique La or in Downtown LA for the holiday season,
was that it was their catch line was having an
incredible night and an even better morning, and it's what
a lot of folks are experiencing, especially you know moms
or young families. They want to go out and have
a great time with their friends, but they also have
young families.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
They have obligations.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
They want to be able to enjoy themselves the next day,
so being able to have all those trappings of being
able to go out and party, but then the next
day not having any of the hangover, any of the
issues with it. So you have opportunities to enjoy things.
In fact, across the street from KFI and I Art Radio,
there's a Whole Foods and when I was there with
Later with Mokelly a couple of weeks back, they even
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have opportunities. There's Hella Cocktail company who specializes in cocktail
culture for everyone. It is buzz optional. In fact, it's
bitters and Soda, which is a zero sugar, zero calorie,
zero proof beverage that you can get at a local
retailer that has a delicious option for you that has
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no It's kind of a think of a white claw.
So it's already a pre canned cocktail with no octane,
so it has no alcohol in it, but you can
always add a little something extra to it. So it's
kind of that nice option where you're being able to
enjoy all the trappings of that alcoholic beverage with none
of the guilt or any of the hangover, but you
can always add a little something to it. Chose, so
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you can try dry Kit. In fact, they've actually extended
dry January into the December time period for US, so
you can visit them online at Shop dry Kits, Shop
drikit dot com. They have extended their early dry January
for US here at KFI, so you can get ten
(27:22):
percent off your order if you go online to them
shop dry kit dot com. You get the information at
fifteen minute Foody on Instagram or Nick Poliochini on Instagram.
The Lincoln bio has all the details there, but you
get ten percent off your order, or you can go
into the shop and get your alcohol options there, or
you can always head over to Granted I don't have
a discount for you at Whole Foods, but you can
go into your local retailer and be able to get that.
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Because non alcoholic beverage sales nationwide are up thirty three
percent since twenty twenty one, so it's not just a
new thing that's happening. This is something that folks are
really kind of embracing, if you will, and finding out
is a new option, is not just going out there
and getting the diet coke and being the which is
always a great option, but being able to find new
ways to enjoy and celebrate.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
All right, awesome, Nick, thank you so much, and happy
Happy New Year's to you.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Happy New Year to you as well, and marry belated
Christmas and happy Honkah and happy Kwanza.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
All right, Thanks Wayne, there is.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
A very comprehensive Nick palio'kinni. One last thing, just an
alert out there. If you left your car on Alameda
Street near East Caesar Chavez Avenue, the police are looking
for you. You are if you're the person you know
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the car. Somebody had a very minor solo vehicle crash
in that area overnight and left the vehicle. They just
abandoned it. Now you might be thinking maybe it was stolen.
There is no indication that this car had been stolen.
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Maybe they were hurt really badly and had already been
They didn't really abandon it. They had already been taken
away to the hospital.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
No, because although the airbags had been deployed, there was
only very minor damage to this car. And here's the thing.
The car I'm talking about, somebody left a Lamborghini. They
had a little tiny solo car accident and abandoned a Lamborghini.
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So if that's you, the police are looking for you.
They would like to speak with you. All right, that's
the show. Have a great weekend, everybody. This is KFI
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wayne Resnick sitting in Bill's on holiday vacation, and we
are pleased to bring on.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bring back.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Our medical expert, doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer at
Dignity Health Saint Mary Medical Center, right down there in
Long Beach. Welcome back, doctor Jim.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Morning, Wayne, How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That was very you know, that was perfunctory. That was
perfunctory and pro forma. And I apologize because you deserve
better than a perfunctory greeting.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm I'm fantastic. All right, So we have a lot
of things to talk about, and the first thing I
want to talk about is there is apparently a certain drug,
a painkilling drug, that causes some people to engage in
risky behavior. So can you tell us the drug, what
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what is meant by engaging in risky behavior? And what
if anything medical science knows about why it does it
to some people?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well, so the number one the drug is acetamnefit, which
is probably the most common drug. Almost every you know,
medicine cabinet across the country has some form of this
in the medicine cabinet and they say that up to
twenty five percent of the people have taken it in
the last week. So super common medication that people take
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from mild pains, headaches, things like that. It's you know,
sold under the brand name of Thail and all in
Europe it's called paracetamol, so you know, that's it's a
common thing in common medicine that almost everybody's taking. The
effect is very small though it's mild, and so I mean,
the way they do a test like this is they'll
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have a balloon that's that's blowing up in front of
the person that's being tested and they're supposed to and
it's like right in front of their face, so if
it pops, it's kind of stressful for them. And so
they'll they have them they have to push a button
when they want it to stop blowing up, and they
want to see how long the person can go before
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they push that button. And it turns out that when
you give somebody a test like that, they're less worried
about the outcome. They're just less worried about the balloon popping,
and so they definitely hit it later. They're willing to
push things a little bit further when they're on a
paracetamol or acet of medicine than when they're not. And
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that's what they found. This is not like alcohol, where
all of a sudden you think you can know fly
and or you know you're going to do crazy stuff
if you're really intoxicated. It's more of a mild effect.
But the concern is you've got this very mild effect
across a huge, you know, section of the population.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know, I can think of an example from my
own life. I don't think it was because I was
taking Thailand all, but for example, this kind of mild
reduction in your perception of danger or risk might be, oh,
the brownies are ready, I don't need a I don't
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need a potholder. I'll just reach in with my bare
arm and and get those brownies.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Out right exactly, you know. Or I don't need to
wait for the light to turn green. I can you know,
I can just zip across while it's still red. Oh my,
you know, you know, things like that where you know,
it seems like a minor decision and as major you know,
potential complications.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So the interesting thing is, of course you explained the study,
but how did they.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Get to wanting to do the study.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
They must have had some indication or some why would
why did they want to test this?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, you know, I'm
not sure why they would want to test it, But
I do think that what they did was test you know,
multiple different drugs. But I mean I think that what
they're looking for is, all right, do we have certain
drugs that are really common in our society that may
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have these subtle effects? And I think when you look
at what are the most common drugs that people are
on Thailand, all is at the top of the list.
So that would be the first one you'd want to test.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Okay, that makes sense because there's certain things that we know,
you know, alcohol and the things it's like that we
already know people who get drunk, they often take very
big risks. And the concern being what about these subtler
things where people are in not really huge danger of
doing anything drastically dangerous, but possibly in danger of just
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having their judgment just the slightest bit impaired that could
end up with I don't know, a smashed thumb with
a hammer or or something like that. And I was
that when I saw the headline, I thought, Oh, what
what obscure? What obscure drug is this story going to
be about? And it turns out to be a set
(05:34):
of medafine I E. Tailand all in the United States
brand name, which is so incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean, I took some Thailand oil yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean, and think about I know people that
will premedicate before they go out to you know, socially,
right so that they're worried they're going to get a
headache or they're worried they're going to get a hangover,
and they'll take tilt off before they go out socially.
And now what if that lowers their inhibition and no
U that they either drink too much and now have
a serious drug on board that can actually all through
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your decision making, or they you know, they don't think
twice about getting in a stranger's car, or you know
what other little things that might change their behaviors in
ways that And it's mind blowing when you think about it.
I mean, I always thought about those at parties because
I never used to drink caffeine. Now that's changed, but
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I never drank caffeine under about age forty, and I
go places where people are drinking coffee and tea and
you realize you're the only one not on this drug.
And you realize that people have a little bit more
pressured speech when they talk when they're on caffeine. They
talk faster, they are more animated, and you're kind of
the boring guy in the corner, not so dynamic on caffeine.
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So you know, I think about those type of things
and you think, Wow, you wonder are we all are
we so used to people on Thailand all that we
don't recognize the change.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I want to say two things.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
One, I just want you to know as a doctor
that when I took the tailan All I already had
a headache. I was not gearing up for a night
on the town. It was a responsible use. And number two,
see I didn't make that connection that it can start
with a slight effect from something benign like tailand All
that could then lead to something that becomes a big problem.
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And you did, and that's why you keep getting promoted
in the world of medicine because you have that kind
of mind who can really see the ramifications of something
like this. So kudos to you, now, doctor Jim. Let's
get into this. Apparently, at least in some doctor's offices,
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when you show up, whether it's a routine appointment or oops,
my elbow hurts, they're not weighing you anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, it's a new trend.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
To I have this year been to and everything's fine.
But I've been to you know, primary care physician.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Oh, they weighed me.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I went to a cardiologist weighed me, gave me a lecture,
weighed me and gave me a lecture about it. And
a neurologist, a neurosurgeon weighed me. I felt this was
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excessive weighing of me, and now somebody agrees.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
What's the thought now that maybe you don't have to
weigh people every time they come in?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, I mean I agree with this. I think it's
it's kind of silly to weigh somebody every single time
they come in unless that's the issue, right, unless that's
what they're coming in for. It's gone to a point
now where doctors are just like the person you go
to to have them write up prescription either to go
get a test or write a prescription for you to
(09:04):
get a medicine or a shot or something. Right, that's
what people seem to want to go to the doctor
for now. They don't care about the doctor's advice or
opinion a lot of the times because we go off
on a tangent and we're not addressing the real issue
for why they decided to come to the doctor. So,
I mean we had to be more relevant. I think
we really do need to start listening to patients more
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listening to what their concerns are, and I think not
wanging patients. It shifts the narrative, right, It shifts it
from you've lost control here now in my office and
I'm going to do whatever I want to you, and
it changes it to you've come to my office for advice.
How can I help you? Right, if you went to
an architect, you wouldn't go in there and say, you know,
(09:49):
the guy wouldn't take control and say I'm going to
build you this. I don't care what you want. This
is good for you, you know. So we've got to
have more of that service mindset. Yeah, of course, way
is a big issue, but if the patient's not interested
in addressing it. You know, It's like when I talk
to people out smoking, I say, look, you know, obviously
I'm sure you've heard smoking's bad for you. Do you
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want to talk about that or are you not really
interested in quitting? Because I don't want to waste any
time with you if that's not where you're at. And
persons a lot of times will say no, I mean
more and are more common conversation about alcohol about you know,
they're there for something related to alcohol, having you know,
messed up their life that day and have that conversation
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and they say no, I don't want to have that conversation.
I say, fine, okay, let me sew up your you know,
your forehead and we'll get you on your way. So
it's along in those lines, right. We have to foster trust.
We have to alleviate the anxiety of going to the
doctor for people where WIT is their concern, and if
they do want to address it, fine, but if they don't,
then let's just deal with you know, what they're coming
(10:52):
in for.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Do we now have two schools of thought that are
butting up against each other, whereas some in the medical
community are feel the way that you feel about it.
But we still have a lot of doctors who think
that somehow weight is a vital metric that likes a
vital sign. Right, they take your blood pressure every time
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you go. I don't hear anybody saying, hey, man, if
they're not here for high blood pressure, there's no need
to take their blood pressure. And there are a lot
of doctors I think who just believe weight is a
vital sign that should be taken. So is there now
any bickering going on about whether one side should change?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's probably some conversations going
on when those conversations come up. But you know, doctors
are people like everything else, and so we all have
different opinions on this, just like a crowd of people would.
And you know, to use your example for blood pressure
people a lot of times they have no clue, right,
I see skinny healthy. In fact, you know, my son's
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working on, you know, becoming a paramedic, and he was
practicing blood pressures with the neighbors and he find this
one neighbor who is very fit, very thin, eats incredibly healthy,
found out that her blood pressure was high. There's no
way she would have known unless somebody took her blood
pressure she wanted, so the doctor sure enough confirmed it,
(12:19):
and you know, now she's getting treated for high blood pressure.
Weight's a little different than that, right, most people get it.
I mean I haven't met a lot of people that
are overweight that don't. Yeah, I met people that are
that are not overweight that think they're overweight. But I
haven't met a lot of people that are overweight that think, no, no, no,
I'm not overweight. You know, I'm exactly the right weight.
So I think it's a little bit more obvious. And yeah,
(12:42):
I mean we're not talking about never having the conversation again.
Like I said with the alcoholic or smoking cessation, it's fine.
Once you get somebody back in the office, you're talking
to them, you developed some level of rapport, and now
you say to them, hey, you know, do you want
to talk about your weight at all? And if they
say no, they say, okay, fine, you know, and and
(13:03):
so that's different because you'll lose the ability to treat
every other disease once they say, you know, either they
say I don't want to come back to you, or
subconsciously they're like, this is just too stressful for me.
I don't want to go to a place where they're
going to basically wait, shame me every time I show
up the office, and so they just won't come back.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I like your approach a lot better than the cardiologist
in the bow ties approach.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I'll tell you that, right, mariologist approaches what we've been
doing for years, right, and that hasn't really well. You
know that they came along and saved us all from
from doctors doing help.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It leads with me, let's take a minute, a minute
and a half here, just because earlier this year, I
don't remember precisely when it was, but I was filling
in and you came on and and in the story was, hey,
whooping cough is starting to really get around again. And
here we are now again whooping cough secrets are surging.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
That's it about whooping cough is we get a heads up,
you know, So we get this early in the season,
we said, whoa wait a second. You know, we've got
like three hundred cases, which is three times more at
that stage, like you, normally we would expect it one
hundred cases by the spring, and we had three hundred
that's a bad sign because it tends to just continue
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at that level for the rest of the year, and
this year it has continued. We're about three times the
normal level of whipping cough. We haven't seen this since
something like twenty ten at this level, and it looks
like we'll exceed that level of twenty ten. And if
you take the last say six years and add them
all up, they don't add up to the number of
cases we've had just so far this year. Whooping cough
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is included. It's pertussis, so it's included in the DPT
shot that children get, but now when adults get their
tennis shot too, it's t DApp is the the technish
you get and that has whooping cough in it because
you do lose the immunity to it. And it's been
a very effective vaccine to help people not get whipping cough.
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Kids used to be out of school forever. It's a
treatable disease. It's not a virus, it's a bacteria. So
if you catch it early, you can treat it with antibiotics.
But if you don't catch it early, it's the first
stage is just like a flu like illness and the
second stage is this wild cough that goes on for
weeks or months and people break ribs. They cost so hard,
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and young children cought so hard they lose oxygen and
they have to be admitted of the hospital because they
can't maintain their oxygen.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Holy smokes.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Now, so you say, the early stage just seems like
a flu. At that stage, could you be swabbed or
something to just rule out that it's whooping costs exactly?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So, like you know, when you have an outit we
don't do that every year, but when you have an
outbreak like this and you see people with with the
symptoms that look like early whooping cough, well then you
jump on giving them antibiotics, even though it may look
a little bit like a viral illness. Early on, you say, look,
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we're in the middle of an outbreak of whooping cough.
So you give them the antibiotics so that you don't
get to that whooping cough stage. You know that you
get to the you only get to the pre stages
and you can abort it before it gets that bad.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
All right, So that's the good news about it. Doctor
Jim always wonderful to talk to. You will be pleased
to talk to you next week as well. Thank you
so much. Take care all right, Doctor Jim Keeney, chief
medical officer at Dignity hell Saint Mary Medical Center in
Long Beach. Guess who's here? Nick Palio, Kenny the fifteen
Minute Footy.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Hello, sir, Hey, they're Wayne Resnik. It's a pleasure to
hear you and that bumper music. I want to sing
about fifteen or chicken nuggets? You got to sing along?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, I don't know anybody who doesn't. I don't know
anybody who does like chicken nuggets now.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Oh, I'm sure we can find a few. But anyway,
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So, I know one of the things that you did,
maybe maybe we should do this right now. Yeah, yeah,
Because one of the things you just did is you
taste tested the new chicken nuggets from Taco Bell.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So why don't you quickly give us your review of those?
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Okay, I can totally do that. So this year we've
seen a lot of different things that have happened, and
the chicken nuggets have been on again, off again at
every single food retailer around the south Land and beyond,
and it's kind of funny to think that Taco Bell
has now get gotten in on the action. So last
night went out and tried it. Actually came out a
little bit earlier this month, and the chicken nuggets is
crazy to think because you're like Taco Bell. Okay, Well,
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Taco Bell finds its home in Irvine, California, and they
decided to jump on the bandwagon. And so it's all
white meat chicken, so breast meat chicken, and it is
marinated in buttermilk and Palapanio's and it is dusted in
crumbled up tortilla chips and it's delicious. I'm not kidding you.
(18:04):
You need to go out today and give it a
shot now. And it's one of those limited time menu
items and there are three special sauces that you can
try it with.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Two of them love.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
They have a Bell sauce, which I am going to
say is kind of like a kicked up version of
the Enchilada sauce. They also have a Hidden Valley Ranch
fire sauce, so it's pretty much just hit a Valley
Ranch and the fire packet that they match together.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's delicious. They also do have a.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Hob and narrow honey mustard not a big fan of it,
but some people love it.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's the option. So I say, give it a shot.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Delicious, well worth you giving that sample, And that is
my fifteen minute quick foody review for you there. So yeah,
I think it's a well worth a shot up against
Chick fil a and Canes and you name the nuggets
that are out there. I mean, obviously chicken nuggets delicious,
but yeah, I mean everybody's gotten on the bandwagon. Do
(18:55):
you have a favorite Wayne? Do you like a Is
there some kind of nugget pressed chicken nugget nugget? Yeah,
like a compressed chicken composite kind of thing that you like?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Not no, because for me, they're all I'm very egalitarian.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Man. If it's if it's a nugget of chicken, whether
it's whole muscle meat or it's some kind of paste
that has been nuggetified, as long as it's some semblance
of chicken inside and some kind of a coating on
the outside. Because honestly, nuggets are merely a conveyance for
a sauce.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
See okay now, but then let that's an even better question.
So what's your favorite dipping sauce? Because that's a there's
always like lots of opinions on this.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
What do you like McDonald's sweet and sour?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Really? Okay?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
And always that has always been because I mean they've
had like a Kung pou sauce. They've had different variation
on those sweet and sour sauce over the years for McDonald's.
Every time a movie comes out, they've got some different
variation on it. So it is it just old school
sweet and sour for you?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But I hear the judgment in your voice at me
a little bit for liking such I guess what you
consider to be a pedestrian sauce. But if you've got
a nugget, man, I'll take that McDonald's sweet and sour
sauce every day of the week.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
But see, I love the pedestrian barbecue sauce for McDonald's.
I mean that would be my pedestrian dipper. Because you
judging I'm not. The funnier part is now to talk
about dipping sauces. I've got a half gallon of McDonald's
barbecue sauce sitting in my kitchen right now.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Now.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I sound like Neil Savadra, but that's actually was sent
to me by McDonald's because it was part of their
McRib special, kind of their nostalgia kickback when they brought
the McRib back for the holiday season and it's they
send it out to me in an ugly Christmas sweater
dressed half gallon jug so that I could make something
with it, and I actually made you'll have to check
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out fifteen minute footy on Instagram. I made a big,
massive meat loaf with it. So but yeah, I just
I don't know. I like try all the different things
they had, like a Seschuan peppercorn sweet and sour sauce
a while back, and I can't remember what movie came
out with McDonald's, but that was kind of like my
kicked out version that I really enjoyed the sweet and
sour sauce for McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
All right, but I'm not going for any of their stunt.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I'm not going for any there's some stuns come on, like.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The stunts and the limited availability and all of that nonsense.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Do not There's no point.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
There's no point in showing me a sauce that's not
going to exist three months from now.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
That's true, but see you kind of falling for it.
That fun unique limited availability. It's always that kind of
that tie in and that fun, exciting, you know, moment
that you hopefully will come back or hope we'll come
back at some point in time down the road.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well that just you're just a more fun person than me.
All right, listen, we have one minute right this segment. Okay,
so minute since yes, oh you no, you direct the segment?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Go ahead, Okay, So I want to do real quick
to talk about some of the top food trends that
we had in twenty twenty four. One was returned to
home cooking, so a lot of folks went to actually
home cooking, but it wasn't the home cooking that we
knew from back in the day. It was kind of
that Rachel Ray thirty minutes or less, or maybe the
Sandra Lee version, which was seventy percent home bought or
you know, like prepared and then thirty percent fresh. But also,
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just like we've already been talking, lots of the Soldier
was happening. And the one thing that I wanted to
give a big shout out to producer Michelle was that
the Arbus potato cakes came back finally from Oliver begging
and pleading for the sixtieth anniversary. So that was the
most important thing. I want to make sure that we
talked about here. Of all the food trends, that's all
I cared about, just for Michelle.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I heard it.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yes there, oh, the greatest things ever.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
And they went away too quickly, right, No, yeah, but
they hopefully will come back. So again, talking about all
those things that went away and came back and went
away and came back. I hope, hope, hope, Just like Michelle,
they weren't as good as the originals, but they were
pretty darn close, right.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They were, so hopefully they won't back. Was that an
lto or are they back permanently?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, No, they were lto and then they will hopefully
be back in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That's that's the kind of BS I'm talking about. No,
thank you, you fall Look, this is like if what
if people what if people were a limited time offer? Yes, okay,
what if we had people like this and then you
meet somebody and you fall madly in love you like,
I'm like God, this is the greatest person ever in
this world. Oh yeah, well it's a limited time offer.
Now they don't exist. Maybe they'll come back, Maybe we'll
(23:31):
bring them make God is telling you maybe I'll bring
them back.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
It's ridiculous holiday music over on coast. You know it'll
come back next season, next year.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
This is Foody Friday.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
We're talking to the fifteen minute Foody Nick Paliochini.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
As people are getting prepared for their New Year's Eve celebrations,
they have more alcohol free cocktail options than ever before.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Tell us, Yes, so, back in twenty seventeen, I myself
decided to put hang up the party, if you will,
and decided to not drink anymore. And so at that
point in time, I was always looking for something to
you know, I've never white knuckled it, but always wanted
to find an option that was a little bit more
(24:21):
than just you know, a tonic and lime or you know,
a diet soda and lemon.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
So always keeping an eye out for it.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
And when I go out and about around the Southland
for all the events that I cover, I like to
try to check in and see what there are. And
this year, more than ever, there's so many many options
for you. Before it used to be just a handful
of things that were not very tasty, and they weren't
really great options and it was mostly just you know,
non alcoholic beer from the major providers. But now there's
(24:50):
a lot of different options, including some really delicious wines
and some spirits. In fact, there's a place over in
play of Vista, So if you're familiar with Silicon Beach,
which is where kind of our southern California version of
Silicon Valley up north dry Kit which is a store
that specializes specifically in non alcoholic wines and spirits, And
(25:14):
I ran into the husband and wife that run the shop,
and they actually have spirits that are no octane, that
have no alcohol in them, and they're delicious and that
are really a one for one exchange for whiskey or
gin or if you're looking for tequila. It depends on
whatever you may want. And what it really is that
caught my eye when I was heading through this event
(25:37):
called Unique La or in Downtown LA for the holiday season,
was that it was their catch line was having an
incredible night and an even better morning, and it's what
a lot of folks are experiencing, especially you know moms
or young families. They want to go out and have
a great time with their friends, but they also have
young families.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
They have obligations.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
They want to be able to enjoy themselves the next day,
so being able to have all those trappings of being
able to go out and party, but then the next
day not having any of the hangover, any of the
issues with it. So you have opportunities to enjoy things.
In fact, across the street from KFI and I Art Radio,
there's a Whole Foods and when I was there with
Later with Mokelly a couple of weeks back, they even
(26:18):
have opportunities. There's Hella Cocktail company who specializes in cocktail
culture for everyone. It is buzz optional. In fact, it's
bitters and Soda, which is a zero sugar, zero calorie,
zero proof beverage that you can get at a local
retailer that has a delicious option for you that has
(26:39):
no It's kind of a think of a white claw.
So it's already a pre canned cocktail with no octane,
so it has no alcohol in it, but you can
always add a little something extra to it. So it's
kind of that nice option where you're being able to
enjoy all the trappings of that alcoholic beverage with none
of the guilt or any of the hangover, but you
can always add a little something to it. Chose, so
(27:01):
you can try dry Kit. In fact, they've actually extended
dry January into the December time period for US, so
you can visit them online at Shop dry Kits, Shop
drikit dot com. They have extended their early dry January
for US here at KFI, so you can get ten
(27:22):
percent off your order if you go online to them
shop dry kit dot com. You get the information at
fifteen minute Foody on Instagram or Nick Poliochini on Instagram.
The Lincoln bio has all the details there, but you
get ten percent off your order, or you can go
into the shop and get your alcohol options there, or
you can always head over to Granted I don't have
a discount for you at Whole Foods, but you can
go into your local retailer and be able to get that.
(27:44):
Because non alcoholic beverage sales nationwide are up thirty three
percent since twenty twenty one, so it's not just a
new thing that's happening. This is something that folks are
really kind of embracing, if you will, and finding out
is a new option, is not just going out there
and getting the diet coke and being the which is
always a great option, but being able to find new
ways to enjoy and celebrate.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
All right, awesome, Nick, thank you so much, and happy
Happy New Year's to you.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Happy New Year to you as well, and marry belated
Christmas and happy Honkah and happy Kwanza.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
All right, Thanks Wayne, there is.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
A very comprehensive Nick palio'kinni. One last thing, just an
alert out there. If you left your car on Alameda
Street near East Caesar Chavez Avenue, the police are looking
for you. You are if you're the person you know
(28:47):
the car. Somebody had a very minor solo vehicle crash
in that area overnight and left the vehicle. They just
abandoned it. Now you might be thinking maybe it was stolen.
There is no indication that this car had been stolen.
(29:11):
Maybe they were hurt really badly and had already been
They didn't really abandon it. They had already been taken
away to the hospital.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
No, because although the airbags had been deployed, there was
only very minor damage to this car. And here's the thing.
The car I'm talking about, somebody left a Lamborghini. They
had a little tiny solo car accident and abandoned a Lamborghini.
(29:48):
So if that's you, the police are looking for you.
They would like to speak with you. All right, that's
the show. Have a great weekend, everybody. This is KFI
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