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January 2, 2025 37 mins
Michael Monks joins Wayne Resnick who is filling in for Bill all week for Handel on the News. New Orleans attack suspect Shamsud-Dun Jabbar’s divorce filings point to financial difficulties. Las Vegas police looking for links between Tesla Cybertruck blast outside Trump Hotel and NOLA attack. 2-fingered man caught with largest cache of homemade pipe bombs in FBI history. South Korean police raid Muan airport following fatal crash. L.A deputies scramble to respond after dispatch computer system crashes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty the Bill handle
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Ladies and gentlemen, Here's Wayne Resnick.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
KFIM six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Good Morning,
It's the Bill Handles Show. He's back from vacation on Monday,
and I'll be here until nine, two more days of
my well technically technically five more days, but two more
shows and my tenure here at KFI as I head

(00:53):
off into a long deserved retirement. Don't frown, Michelle.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
It makes me sad, but I'm very happy for me.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, you know, I worked six days a week for
thirty years. Yeah, you deserve No how about now no
days a week? That sounds nice, seems like let's let's,
in other words, let's not make minor adjustments. Let's have
the pendulum swing all the way in the other direction.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's my idea of a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
All right, So I think we'll let you know. Michelle
is here in for and producing. Michael Monks is here
in the KFI news booth in for Amy King.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Amy's back tomorrow. Is that correct? She is right? Good morning,
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
And of course Kono the only the only true member
of the morning crew here today. You carry the mantle
heavy upon your head of morning show excellence this morning.
Thank you your enthusiasm is I love working indetectable not working?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Huh So I love to work when the rest of the.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh you like to work when none of the other
people you're used to are here. It's the best, are you?
But you sound like you're being completely sarcastic when you
say that. I mean, I like working with you and
Michael and and shall.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm just kidding the best, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I guess there's a lot of drama behind the scenes
that I won't be hearing about.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Am I will.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Miss the hot goss. I won't lie about that. So
I say, let's start today's handle on the news. And
you know, I honestly I wanted to have fun my
last run here, and evilness is making that more challenging
than it otherwise would be. So let's get into handle

(02:56):
on the news, Michael Monks and me and what continue
used to be the lead story. A picture is emerging
of the man believed to have we always have to
say that still believed to have perpetrated the terrorist attack
in New Orleans on New Year's Eve plowing his car

(03:19):
into a group of people.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
The death toll is up to at least fifteen.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And this guy, Shamsuding Jabbar, we know some things about
him now. I don't even like doing this part of
the job, Michelle, because the part of the job where
you talk about the guy.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Is the part of the job where you're forced to.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Indistinguishably talk about somebody, whether they're a celebrity, whether they're
a hero who accomplished something amazing, or whether they're a
bastard who I'm.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Glad is dead.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
However, the informational part of it is event from a
news standpoint, what I do not cotton too and will
never be a part of is posting photos of these people.
Particularly well, we'll get to the little thing I saw this.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Morning that really made my blood boil.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
In that regard, but for right now, we'll just tell
you because knowing a little about him is tracing the
path to how this happened. And we know born in Beaumont, Texas,
raised in Beaumont, Texas. Served in the military for over
ten years, did serve a tour in Afghanistan, came out,

(04:42):
started a real estate business, also worked for a couple
of big accounting firms, and appeared to be a normal
guy at that point, based on videos that he put up,
for example, introducing himself to the to the community as
a real estate agent, et cetera. But then it turns

(05:05):
out he had a lot of marriage problems, or maybe
I should say the women who married him ended up
having a lot of marriage problems with him. If I'm
reading everything correctly, he's been married three times and divorced

(05:25):
three times. There's Nakedra, there's Tierra, and there's shanin every
marriage ending in divorce, at least the most recent one,
somewhat acrimoniously, with claims filed against each one, filing claims

(05:46):
against the other. And significant financial problems for this guy,
including a lot of credit card debt, losing a home
because he said in court filings he couldn't afford to,
you know, pay the mortgage and stuff anymore. And it
is in that state of a life that he rented

(06:10):
a car and in a in a in a way
that that I did not know.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
You could do.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
And we'll talk about this at seven, because there's a
connection between this incident and the cyber truck blowing up
in Las Vegas. That has to do with how those
vehicles were rented. And we've got I've got some more
information that seven will be able to unpack this a
little with a little more time. But in any event,
and then he did what he did. Now the state

(06:41):
of the investigation is they are calling it a terrorist stack.
All the law enforcement officials now are calling this a
terrorist attack, I'm sure largely because he had a little
isis flag on the vehicle that he had rented and
with which he perpetrated this. And they there were three

(07:01):
guys and one woman who were seen on surveillance video
supposedly planting explosive devices, and there were at least two
pipe bombs found that had been placed in coolers and
were wired to explode. However, apparently those four people have

(07:24):
been cleared as suspects. Yet still the FBI believes he
did not do this alone, but we don't have the
details about what they mean by that. Did he have
help actually executing it that day, or did he have
help planning it, or did he have help making the

(07:45):
explosive devices, which they believe were made in a rented
airbnb in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
After he got there. So this is what we know
at this time.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
More information does seem to be coming out at a
pretty frequent clip, and we will bring it to you
as soon as we have it.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
But this is in some ways the story of.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
An American who serves in the military who comes out
and has a nice career going. At one point he
was making one hundred and twenty five grand a year,
but because of three failed marriages, child support from two
of them, and running up his credit card apparently to

(08:31):
pay his rent at some point, he encountered serious financial difficulty.
There's obviously some emotional and relationship instability going on because
these three marriages and divorces happened in a relatively brief
period of time. I mean, we're talking of a period
about ten eleven years, three different marriages and divorces.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
And it culminates in this act.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
And we're doing handle on the news for you, Michael Monks,
and for Amy King and me. And I mentioned this
briefly yesterday when I saw it, But a little more
on the guy in Virginia who was caught with a
I almost said a bad word that you say sometimes
when you mean a lot of things, a certain kind
of ton I almost said of explosives. Now, they originally

(09:20):
went after him because he had a short barreled rifle,
which is no good. But they found out he was
stockpiling weapons and homemade ammunition, and they go and they
raid the house and there they find over one hundred
and fifty homemade explosives. Also a material called HMTD, which

(09:42):
is extremely unstable. I mean, it is more unstable than
the most unstable host on KFI.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
That's how unstable it is. That is unstable.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
And he had it kept in the freezer because one
of the ways that if you've got some HMTD laying around,
one of the ways it might ex blowed is that
the temperature in the room changes three or four degrees.
So he had it in the freezer, the family freezer,
right next to the food.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And so they arrest.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Him and they put him in jail, and now he's
trying to get out on bail pending his trial. And
the judge said, yeah, I think I'm gonna let him
out on bail, and the government said, whoa Nelly. I
don't know if the judge's name is Nelly, but they said, whoe, Nelly. No,
let us tell you some other things about this guy.
And so the judge is now reviewing additional evidence in

(10:35):
the government's attempt to keep this guy in custody. And
one of the things that they point out now is listen,
he cannot be trusted not to keep screwing around with explosives.
Why do we say that, Well, because he currently.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Has two fingers.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
He has had his fingers blown off messing around with explosives,
and they didn't stop him from messing around with explosives,
so maybe he should not be out and about in
the world.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Does it specify if two fingers are two fingers on
one hand or is it one finger on each hand?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Not sure how they're configured. I'm curious about it.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And when they say two fingers, I don't want to
get into the debate about whether a thumb is a finger.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So I'm going to assume he doesn't have any thumbs,
so at least he won't be able to hitchhike to
try to get away from the jurisdiction if they do
let him out.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But man, oh man, that's good stuff. That guy. All right,
let's go to South Korea? How about that? No, thanks,
we're all aware. Excuse me, I'm not ready either. We've
all been aware of this terrible plane crash that happened there.
One hundred and seventy nine people died on this flight
that went down. Only two crew members lived well. Police

(11:53):
are trying to figure out what happened. Investigators from the
aviation organizations even stateside here are trying to figure out
what happened. They raided an airport after this fatal crash,
the airport of Muan in South Korea. They've also stopped
the boss of Jiju Air from leaving South Korea. They
consider him to be a key witness in this case.

(12:15):
They really want to know what happened here. A lot
of questions have emerged. They've got Korean investigators looking at
the calls, They've got US investigators looking at the calls.
They've got Boeing, who made the plane, involved in this investigation.
And there are all kinds of questions about why this
plane went down and what the circumstances were on the

(12:35):
ground in the air that led to all of this carnage.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Because the pilot said, oh, we had a bird strike
exactly the strike and the plane went down with no
landing gear. And what they're saying is, well, a bird
strike wouldn't affect the landing gear, So what aren't you
telling us?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And that's what we hope to find out from all
of these investigations. But they clearly mean business in that one.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Well, one thing that's interesting about South Korea as compared
to the United States is that when stuff goes wrong,
they they go right after companies and executives from companies
to see if there's any accountability at all, whereas here
we don't really mess We don't mess with those at
the top of the corporate hierarchy too much unless they

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start messing around with money.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
That's the only time.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, look, first of all, just so you know, nothing
bad happened, but the sheriff's departments computerized dispatch system crashed
right before midnight on New Year's Eve. So guess what
they had to do. They had to be cops from
old episodes of Adam twelve and drag Met, where someone

(13:45):
would call nine one one and the nine to one
to one person would have to write the information down
on a piece of paper and then give that to
the radio team who would literally the.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Old fashioned carved eight.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
We got some kids blasting their music over there at wherever,
and then that's how they that's how they were handling calls.
For a while, the BODYCM system worked, I think all
the other systems worked. But when the dispatch went down,

(14:21):
somebody made a joke about it being their own little
Y two K, and then the systems came back up
and everything was fine. But I suspect at this point
the I'm gonna guess the majority, if not the entirety,
of the Patrol Division people who were out had never

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dealt with this kind of a thing before.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
You mean, like using a pen.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Like yeah, like having to go back and forth to
get the information on the on the little and you know,
and rather than just being able to get all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
On yeah, I know. I mean, you see some police
these days. You realize when you've aged, when you see
a police officer and you think, man, you're so I mean,
are you fifteen years old? You're so young? And these
deputies certainly look like that to me. So I bet
they never lived in an age where they were exclusively
writing things down. Welcome back to the dark ages of

(15:22):
the nineteen nineties. All right, let's let's move on, because
there are some renters here in LA who might see
a little sticker shock when their bill comes due this week.
More than sixty three percent of LA residents are renters.
I'm a renter here in LA, and a lot of
them who live in previously or currently rent controlled units

(15:44):
are finding that their rent is going up by about
four percent. You think, well, big deal, four percent, but
if your rent is two thousand, three thousand, thirty five hundred,
four percent can add up and that can impact your
monthly budgeting. And that's what folks are feeling because landlords
who own properties that they rent out in rent controlled

(16:04):
circumstances have a cap on how much they're allowed to
increase in this year, they've been allowed to do four percent,
So a lot of renters getting a little bit of
sticker shock coming up. If you're non rent controlled, could
be almost nine percent increase for you, exactly. It can
be chaos. I got really lucky my landlord out of nowhere.

(16:27):
It was time for me to renew my lease this month,
and they just took fifty dollars off, no questions asked.
They took fifty dollars off your monthly. My rent is
going down fifty dollars. Something's up. I think they like me,
or they found out I work at KFI, and they
don't want me topping my mouth off. They want to

(16:47):
get me silence. And let me tell you, if you
can buy my silence for fifty dollars, fifty dollars will
buy my silence in this economy, all right.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I guess this is still an issue that there's enough
rancor in the Republican Party that they're worried they might
not be able to elect a speaker when the new
Congress convenes, and that would mean they can't delay. They
can't excuse me, they would have to delay and can't
at the right time certify the election, and there'd be

(17:21):
no inauguration, or well it would be delayed. I mean,
it's look, first of all, this is the first thing.
We're not going to have a situation where six months
from now they've not certified the election and Chuck Grassley
is the president, the acting president of the United States.
It's gonna be if it happens, it will be for
a short period of time. But the problem is because

(17:44):
and we already saw this last time, there's a lot
of infighting in the Republican Party with a relatively small
group of people coming up the works, and the same
thing is happening again, and they have such a slim
majority that I think they can only afford to lose
one Republican vote. And that's assuming every other Republican shows

(18:07):
up to vote and votes for Mike Johnson. And there's
at least fourteen people on record that say they're undecided.
And you know what's happening now is all the deal
making behind the scenes of what will you give me
if I vote for Mike Johnson as speaker. They're lining
up the pork barrels, because that's how it works, if

(18:29):
you what I'm surprised is that every Republican in the
House is not saying, I don't know, what can.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
You do for me? It's only maybe fourteen of them.
Let me tell you about a volcano that is apparently
scheduled to erupt in twenty twenty five. People who watch
these things say that there are telltale signs of swelling
within this volcano. It's called the Axial Seamount. Wish it's

(18:58):
pretty good Twitter handle if that's not taken. And it's
a volcano located about four hundred and seventy kilometers off
the coast of Oregon showing signs of impending activity. What
does it mean to be an undersea volcano that would erupt?
Ads predicted here in twenty twenty five. It's a pretty
unique situation apparently with the being able to predict that

(19:20):
this thing is going to erupt. But I'm not exactly
sure if this is something we need to be scared
of here in La Wayne. Can you help me out
here whether we be scared of this? Well, I'm scared
of everything right now. The year is off to such
a crazy start, and now we've got a volcano under
the ocean.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well, it's under the ocean, so if it erupts out
the top of it, the magma, the magma will have
to come up through the water. So does that blunt
how far the magma goes? Or is the problem that
the ocean will be filled with hot magma? Or does

(20:02):
it cause a tsunami or that as well, I will
disrupt I'm just gonna say this.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
University professor, a volcanologist called this a very promising volcano,
So I don't know if that means yeah, I mean,
this is a high achieving volcano. This is a high achiever.
This is a volcano that you want to take home
to mom. But is it a threat. I don't need this.

(20:34):
I don't need this volcano you might not want to
bring home to mom.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Ladies your next sex partner, because, according to a futurist,
women will be having more sex with robots next year
than men will. I don't know how you make such
a prediction, but that's the prediction that has been made

(21:03):
by data futurist doctor Ian Pearson's.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now there have been first of all, I will say this,
I think you have to go back. You go all
the way back to the mid seventies and there was
say can I can I I don't really want to
say that word, but it is the correct word for
the thing I'm saying it never But what do I care?
So in nineteen it's not that bad, but it's not

(21:30):
the best. So just if you're sensitive, plug your ears
for like ten seconds. Back in the mid seventies, this
idea called teledildonics, which was the idea that sex toys
could be operated remotely somehow, and I think originally it
was through a direct like a wired connection because nobody
had WiFi or anything. And then later on, as we know,

(21:53):
you can control things over the Internet from anywhere in
the world. I can adjust my thermostat for me anywhere
in the world. I can turn my alarm system on
and off from anywhere in the world. So that was
the beginning of the idea of robotic if you will
sex and now fast forward.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
They're these amazingly.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Life like sex robot things that you could buy. But
aren't they aren't they ten fifteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
They're extremely expensive, you know, according to this articles.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But apparently Michelle included an image for you to see,
and it's quite I'm not comfortable is the image?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
But is the damn it is the image posted somewhere
where people can't see it.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'll put it on the camp I Instagram at camp
is of no help to anybody if only we can
see it. It's a man who's he looks very eighties.
You don't try to describe it. I want to describe it.
Can you put some music on? I want to describe
this sexy rob looks like Richard Marx. Am I not
being heard right now? Yes, we're not going to describe
anything other than that. We won't describe it.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I'm getting I'm getting mad right now because nobody.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Ever put it on the Instagram.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
It's quite Sexactic's like saying to someone who has been
kind enough to give us their time and attention, we're
all doing a thing and you can't really be part
of it.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I'll post it.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
My favorite part of this article is this this Harvard
doctor who writes that it's the men that need to
be worried because it's quite possible that these uh, these
robots will outperform them for their women.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Oh, almost certainly, however, Michelle posting photo. Now, let let's
see how much of a threat the advanced male sex
robots are. I'm gonna play for you a little audio, okay,
and for everybody so here.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Hopefully it'll work. Let's listen to this guy.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
I can be programmed to understand all about your business.
Imagine I'm at a conference wearing your company T shirt
and informing the audience about all of your company's products
and services.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
No, there you go. Is that a sexy Is that
a sexy robot? No, it's not. He just described an image.
Are you mad at him?

Speaker 7 (24:26):
No? This is nuts. Okay, I just posted there. You
go go check it out on where. It's a very
suggestive image. She's going to get her account band.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, I posted it with no it's it's it's a
I'm gonna post it.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
With a poll of that's what. That's what I'm saying.
That's the problem that all right, let's uh, let's move
on to. Have you ever been driving and you get
swept up in the music? A song comes on and
you're just vibing and it's like, oh my gosh, I'm
going twenty miles over the speed limit. A great song
has come on, the breeze is picked up, and I'm

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a maniac. Well, there's a guy in Missouri got clocked
going one hundred and seven miles an hour, not because
he got swept up by a song, but he got
swept up because he was playing a video game while driving.
This twenty five year old driver north of Kansas City
pulled over on I thirty five driving his twenty twenty

(25:26):
three Nissan CenTra, driving about forty miles over the sixty
five mile per hour posted speed limit. Police say he
admitted to playing a video game while driving. So now
he's facing speeding and other vehicular charges. He's got to
go to court April fifteenth. He's got a scheduled court appearance,
and there are no details on what game he was playing,

(25:49):
but apparently some reporters in Kansas City took a look
at his TikTok page and they have found that he
is a devotee of My Hero Ultra Rumble. That's a
twenty four player battle royale. So this is a guy
who was playing with more than one person, probably allegedly

(26:12):
while driving his Nissan CenTra over one hundred miles per
hour down the freeway. So let that be a lesson
as we start this new year. Resolve not to play
your PlayStation while driving.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
And Rudy Giuliani, who is having to liquidate all of
his property to pay that one hundred and forty eight
million dollar defamation verdict because he defamed those election workers
in Georgia, he really doesn't want to have to give
up his four World Series rings that were gifted to

(26:46):
him by then owner George Steinbrenner, he says, and this
whole thing doesn't If I am the judge who is
going to have a hearing on this, If I'm the judge,
I might actually fat him in court because he is saying,
please don't take the rings. Why because he says they're

(27:10):
not his rings. They're his son, Andrew CMO's rings, but.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
They were given to him. How they were given to
Rudy Giliani.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
And he says that sometime after he was gifted these rings,
although I think he also said he insisted on paying
for them, so maybe it's not fair to say he
was gifted, but he was allowed to obtain them. He
says he gave them to Andrew, he said, here, these
are for you. Now, is there a document did Andrew?

(27:42):
Did he do a nominal sale for one dollar that's
in a contract that now I own these rings?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
No? No, he's just saying, well, they're really not my rings.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
And he also doesn't want to give up his three
million dollar condo in Florida because he said it's his
primary residence and should be exempt. Might have a point there,
He might have a point there, particularly in Florida.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
But the ring thing is very smarmy.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
It's very goalm I'm sorry, it's it's very I misused smarmy.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
It's it's very suss is what I meant to say.
It reminds me of Gollum the Precious and you're gonna
He kind of looks like, come.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
On, I know he's you're gonna pile on his appearance
when he's got all this other problem going on.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Wow, you are that's cold.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
The Biden administration, through the Pentagon, made a lot of
agreements with uh I'll tell you who they are, some
famous people to try to help recruit people to go
into the military because I don't know if you know it,
but they're having a hard time getting people to join
this volunteer military. So one thing that the government will

(28:57):
do is enter into what they call a production assistant agreement.
This is most famously known to have happened with the
movie Top Gun. They were making Top Gun, and everybody
knew it was going to be very complimentary and it
was going to be a big booster for the military,
and so the government said, hey, what do you need

(29:18):
will help you make this movie? What do you need
from us? And they enter into an agreement to provide
help making in this case Top Gun. Well, they've also
under the Biden administration made similar deals to Kelly Clarkson
and her talk show, Jennifer Hudson and her talk show,
Guy Fieri and his flavored town life that he lives,

(29:43):
and even What's his Face YouTube star Mister Beast here's
the thing though apparently none of it really worked, meaning
it didn't boost their recruitment numbers, or recruitment numbers.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Are still way down.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
They the Army had said we intend to recruit sixty
five thousand people, and they got a little over fifty
thousand people. So it's a nice idea, but it's not
working because I don't think there's any way anymore to
like subconsciously influence people to want to be in the military.

(30:21):
So if you're like, hey, Kelly Clarkson will help you
with something for your show. If you want to have
something with that, I don't know, we bring a jet
fighter onto your show or something like that.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
We'll do that for you.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
And I don't think anybody sitting there goes wow. Three
minutes ago, I had no intention of wanting to be
in the military, but Kelly Clarkson just had a jet
fighter on her show. Let me go down to the
mall right now, to the recruiting office. There's one thing
I do want to say the Daily Mail, you blew
it no offense. The headline Biden's Pentagon poured money into

(30:53):
these shows and everything. It's not how it works. The
production has to reimburse the pen to gone for any
expenses incurred in helping them. So I don't know if
that's the Daily Mail trying to ding Biden again, or
they're just dumb, or they don't know how these agreements work.

(31:13):
But when it's all over, no taxpayer money is spent.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
All right, let's draft a scenario where people in southern
California are very familiar. You're sitting in traffic and suddenly
some idiot does something stupid and you just can't even
believe it because you would never drive like that. And
that's because we're mister know it all, right, We're always

(31:40):
mister know it all in the moment. But apparently, according
to a new study, that situation or similar situations, these
researchers have found in general, quote, people don't stop to
think whether there might be more information that would help
them make more informed decisions. So, whether you're lashing out
in a moment like that where you don't have all

(32:01):
the facts about what's going on with the other person,
or whether there's a terrorist attack happening in New Orleans
and events are unfolding and you're taking to social media
and spreading a lot of stuff. The research has shown
that people don't like the pause and get their facts
straight before they react. And I know in the media
business Wayane, that's not a surprise to you.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
No, they call it the illusion of information adequacy. You
think you know enough to have your opinion, but you don't. Now,
first of all, I don't think this is true. But
let me float this idea though, as to the example
that you used, which is a very common example. So
somebody is driving too slowly in front of you. Now,

(32:50):
it may be absolutely that there's a reason that if
you knew why it was happening, that you would have
some sympathy for the situation that the person's in. However,
is it not still true that they're driving too slowly?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Does the why?

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Does the why of why they're doing the thing really
change your entitlement to be pissed off about it and
call it out? They're doing the thing this is now
about well you may not know why.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, now I think you're steering into a sociopathy, steering
into steering into means I wasn't in there. I mean, yes,
you're right on the factual basis, of course, but it's
difficult when you have any human emotions not to have

(33:45):
a little bit of empathy.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well, here's the problem with it. I am serious about
this that because there's this whole thing about what is
it Be kind to everyone you meet, because everybody's going
through a struggle. You don't know what someone's struggle is
and what that means. But here's the problem. It's not
good or healthy to be mad at everybody who violates
any tiny bit of whatever you consider to be the

(34:07):
proper behavior. I understand that you can't live your life
like that, but you can't live your life no matter
what somebody does, going like, oh, I wonder what tragedy
hath to befallen my fellow man. I'm filled with empathy
and sympathy because guess what, when they're doing something bad
and you assume it's because they're dumb, that's because you

(34:30):
don't have enough information. But when you go, oh, my
poor fellow man must be going through some things, you
also don't know enough to feel that way about it.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's true, And they don't know the difference.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
They don't know whether you're raging at them or crying
tears on their behalf. So why not just be who
you are and get if you get mad at people.
You get mad at people, and if it turns out
that there was a reason they were driving slowly, that
makes some sense to you.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
You'll never know anyway, Uh, I guess. I mean, you're
you're absolutely correct, you're absolutely low right. But I have
found when I have snapped and it's happened to me,
my goodness, driving in southern California, I've lost my cool.
And then moments later, the altar boy in me comes
crawling back to the top of my head and immediate guilt,
like why did I yell at that that person? I mean,

(35:23):
why did I feel the way I Why did I
feel so intensely about a stranger for this thing that
happened in a split second and is over and we're
all moving on with our lives. But the rage that
you can feel in those those circumstances, it's immense.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Well, we're wired, but we're wired that way because if
we weren't wired that way, this wouldn't be a research
study and we wouldn't be talking about it because it
would be some small handful of freaks that explode on
the road because somebody drives. Everybody does it, because that's
how we are. And a study like this and this
narrative of be kind to everybody, because this struggle or whatever,

(36:01):
this is all trying to get us to deny who
we are and how we are, our basic biological essence.
And sorry, not gonna do.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I'm sorry. I'm not a moth. I'm a human being.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
And you can try to make me a moth that
loves everybody and never gets mad, but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
You just said a small group of freaks, and I
like that for the name of this crew that's been
filling in during the holidays. So thank you, and thank you.
It's been such a pleasure to get to work with
you here at the end of everything. For you, and
I hope you enjoy your retirement. I love your voice
so much and you have the best vocabulary in radio.
Oh you are a very nice man. I like you.

(36:47):
I may love you a little bit. I'm not a robot.
In case you're wondering if you should, No, you're not.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
It's KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
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