January 3, 2025 • 34 mins
Wayne Resnick fills in for Bill Handel all this week. Marijuana and driving. Foodie Friday news. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Wayne about more kids developing kidney stones and your tonsils being able to grow back.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listen sings KFI AM six forty the Bill Handle
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good morning, It's a Bill Handle Show. He's back from vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
On Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Wayne Resnik here until nine o'clock. Then it's Gary and
Shannon time. Now some stories that we're watching for you here.
One thing you should know is that supporters of the
Menendez brothers who want them to be re sentenced and
immediately released from prison, are meeting with the new DA
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in La County, Nathan Hawkman. Over twenty members of the
family of the murdered parents are supporting the Menendez brothers,
saying that they suffered terrible abuse at trauma and also
that they have demonstrated rehabilitation over the last thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Nathan Hakman certainly will not be as gung ho to
do something on their behalf as the outgoing what's his
face George Gascone? All right, let's talk about it. Colorado
is still trying to figure out how to tell if
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you're too stoned to be driving with alcohol.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We have a standard point eight.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
If you are point eight blood alcohol level or higher,
you are presumed to be impaired. You can still be
convicted of driving under the influence with a lower blood
alcohol level, but they will have to prove your impairment
other ways. That's what the roadside sobriety test is for.
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That's why you have to walk the line and touch
your nose and say the alphabet backwards, because they can't.
It's they could say, his blood alcohol level is point
oh five, and that's the only evidence that we have.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's not good enough.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But his blood alcohol is point oh five and he
was unsteady on his feet and he was lurning his words. Ah,
now we have a case, all right. Well, with marijuana,
the impairments are different. That's the first thing. A stoned
driver does not look like or act like a drunk driver.
And it's not clear what level of cannabis THC specifically
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in your blood should be the cutoff point for when
you are presumptively impaired. And that's the only evidence that
they need, and of course what technology exists to measure
the amount of THC in your blood. And further too more,
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because unlike alcohol marijuana, the THC from marijuana is detectable
in your system for a long long time after you
are high with alcohol. Typically is not a h undred
percent of the case. Some people metabolize alcohol differently and
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so forth. But typically, as you get less drunk, your
blood alcohol level goes down, and certainly within several hours
unless you have just I mean, if you have really
gotten blackout drunk. Otherwise, within several hours, if you stop,
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your blood alcohol level is going to get back to zero. Marijuana,
as you know, could be detected with a blood or
urine test for weeks in some cases.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So this is all the big challenge. So here's what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
When I said Colorado is trying to figure it out,
what I mean is that this research is going on
in Colorado. And here is what they are doing. They
have a car simulator. Okay, if you're going to measure
the effect of intoxicants on driving, that makes a lot
of sense. You have a driving simulator. Beautiful. They also
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have and I don't even know why they have them,
They have these vans that look like hippie vans with
the God's eyes and the tapestries of the whole thing.
And they're paying people to get high and then get
into a simulator. What a way to make a buck.
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Some people sell their plasma, and some people get paid
to get stoned and pretend they're driving because they're trying
to get to some way to scientifically, accurately, fairly and
consistently measure what's going on so that when cops go
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out they can have the same level of certainty that
they have now with alcohol. And if there's any DUI
lawyers listening, I'm not saying it's one hundred percent certainty
all the time. I mean, I know there's little little
variations and things where possibly the reading is not so accurate.
But I'm saying there's a standardized approach and some standardized
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numbers that cops have at their disposal that they just
don't really have. With marijuana, national data on the effects
of marijuana on road safety is kind of spotty. It
seems to be fairly well accepted that if you're high,
it can impede You're impeded your ability to respond quickly
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to let's say, some jumps out in front of the road,
your ability to stop, and also your ability to judge
distances accurately. I don't know that anybody's saying that's not true.
So there's a couple of studies that they're working on
in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
One of them is what I told you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
They pay people to get stoned and they get into
a car simulator, and that way they can get a
sense of what specifically happens to your motor skills, your reflexes,
your vision, and they need to here's the deal. They
need to have all kinds of different people get all
kinds of different stoned because what affects a habitual user,
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or how a habitual user is affected might be totally
different than an occasional user. So you have to have
all levels of potheads basically doing that study. And then
there's another study where they're trying to make a portable
breathalyzer that figures out not just what your blood level
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is of THC, but can tell you, or at least
come close to telling you, how recently you used that marijuana,
because that's the key. You pull somebody over, there must
have been a reason you pulled them over, but it's
not enough, Like it wasn't all they were weaving all
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over the place or something like that. Maybe you pulled
them over for a light being out and maybe you
just feel like, I don't know, you just get a
vibe that maybe they're high, but nothing you can pinpoint.
And then so they you test their THCHC level and
they're positive for THC and they say, yeah, I smoked
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marijuana two days ago. And you're the cop and you go,
I don't believe that. I think you're stoned. And you
go into court and the cop says, hey, man, I
pulled them over because his tail light was out and
he had THC and I think he was stoned. And
the guy goes, I wasn't stoned. He's not saying what
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I was doing that was bad driving, and I'm telling
you I smoked marijuana two days before. That case gets dismissed.
But if they can say this scientific device shows he
smoked marriorana two hours before we pulled them over, those
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cases might stand up. So that's all the stuff that
they're working on. It happens to be happening in Colorado.
We are up to I believe we've got thirty nine
states have medical marijuana, and we're at a couple a
dozen for recreational So it's definitely becoming an all across
the country issue on the roads. It is Friday, it
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is the pill Handle Show, and it is time to
talk about the things we love to put in our mouse.
It's foody Friday, and we do start with a pickle Mania.
Twenty twenty four was the year when every damn thing
had to taste like pickles. I don't know who started it.
I know it was early in the year when nature
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made a supplement company put out pickled flavored gummy vitamins.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I know that, but I don't know what came before.
But I know what came throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Tangy pickled doritos, grill mate steal, pickles, seasoning for your
steak or your chicken, pickle mayonnaise, pickle hummus, pickle cookies,
pickle gummies. And then you had those portable pouches of pickles,
the gogurt of pickles. Also, it wasn't just products, it
was events. It was spicy pickle challenges. It was doing
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those what did they call them, pickleback shots at the
bar tay in a show with pickle juice.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Pickle juice and doctor pepper a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Somebody made corn puffs, but they they were greenish like pickles,
and they tasted like pickles, and they were called pickleballs.
Get it, pickleball. The game pickleballs, the snack. Pittsburgh has
a summer festival called Picklesburg because HJ. Hines is located
there and they're big in pickles and they had record attendants.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And who do we have to blame for this? Because
I like pickles?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I like them.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
There's very little I can think of though that's not
a pickle that I want to taste like a pickle.
I think TikTok is to blame. Do you know if
you put a pickle video, any kind of pickle related
video on TikTok, you can get two million viewers. And
also TikTok and I can't believe that they have enough
data to keep track of this, but they do, which
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is scary. And by the way, one of the reasons
why the people who want to ban it might have
a point because of how much data they have. If
you ask somebody from TikTok right now how many pickle
related tiktoks are on your platform, they will be able
to tell you, as of this week, over two hundred
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and fifty one million pickle related tiktoks.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You ever made glickles? Did you ever see glickles?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
This is where apparently you take edible glitter and you
put it in a jar of pickles, and now you
have glickles because pickles can have to be blinged out.
Now I'm not into it. Is anybody there into it?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I like pickles, but I'm not putting glitter on my pickles.
And now I don't want I don't want pickle flavored
something else. I want to pickle flavored pickle. And I
try to pickle back once and I was not a fan.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It wasn't for me. I don't see what the point is.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, I but again, can I tell you something.
I sound like the curmudgeon.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's they're not. Nobody's hurting anybody with all the pickle stuff.
So I'm not mad. I don't want to stop it.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I don't even think the people that are doing it
are like bad or weird or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's just not for me.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Maybe, you know what, I just really maybe I feel
left out because I did not participate in pickling twenty four. Michelle,
stay there because you're Italian. Uh, and you're not just
regular Italian, you are you are like arrogant Italian is
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for well, we'll see, well the story is for you.
Another thing that happened in twenty twenty four is every
Italian restaurant and many restaurants that are not Italian restaurants
started serving one of the most renowned and basic pasta
dishes ever, caccio at peppe, cheese and pepper. And this
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is as supposed to be if I understand it. You
got the pasta and you have some cheese, and you
have some pepper, grated pepper, and maybe a tiny bit
of some butter or something to kind of make it
all go together. But apparently now there's a big contra
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coming from people such as yourself, that everybody in restaurants.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
In the United States, that.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They're all screwing up this very basic Roman pasta dish
by drowning it in butter.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Yes, yes, it's yes, most I've had it. And then
like I'm gonna say, I've had the dish in like
ten different restaurants, because my Italian restaurants you have to
test them by doing a very simple dish like this
to see if they're any good. And out of those
ten restaurants, there have been maybe two that have done
it right, and Anaheim White House is one of them.
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By the way, Bruno does an excellent one. Most of
them are are using too much butter.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Some you're not.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I was taught that you don't even use butter, that
when you're when you put it in the pan, you
take a little bit of the starchy pasta water and
you put it with the cheese and the pepper, and
that's what melts everything together. So I find that that
is correct. Many many restaurants are using way too much better.
There's just drenched and it's not supposed to be like that.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Well here's my guess.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
My guess is this is a thing of trying to
appeal to an American palette and that if a lot
of Americans taste it and authentic caccio at Pepe, they
would go what is this and that you have to
drown things in butter to get to get Americans to
eat it. But people are starting to really really speak
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out about it, and those people are.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Arrogant Italians like Michelle Cute. It's too test for me.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
It's this dish and then a regular spaghetti with meat
Bull's dish and if they don't do that, well then
it's not a good time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Less.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, then they hear about it for days on end.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yes, I know, I know what it's like with you
all right joining us now as he does every week.
Doctor Jim Keeney, chief Medical Officer Dignity helped Saint Mary
Medical Center in Long Beach, A board certified er doctor
and a good guy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Welcome back to the show, doctor Jim.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Thanks Wayne, morning morning.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Let's get right into this because, oh boy, anytime anything
about kidney stones is in the news, I perk up
because I have had at least twelve of them.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Really my life.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Until yeah, then they figured it out and then I
haven't had any. I haven't had one in like twenty
five years. But man, I went through a period of
time where they just kept forming. Now in my case,
we're not going to spend too much time. But in
my case, just you know, me to doctor, they were
uric acid kidney stones, not calcium oxalate.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
But in any event, so that's fine.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Here's the thing, though, I didn't have my first kidney
stone until I was an adult. Now apparently kids are
getting kidney stones.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, I mean that's always happened, but there seems to
be an increase in kids getting kidney stones. It is
shocking because we think of kidney stones as a disease
of middle aged white guys, and it definitely seems to
be connected to certain things, certain behaviors like salt intake dehydration.
When your body is trying to get rid of salt
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through the kidneys, it can also pull calcium at the
same time, and then that results in extra concentration there
and you can cause calcium oxylate stones, which is about
eighty five percent of kidney stones. And I mean with
kidney stones are so painful that usually the nurse or
the admitting person in the front of the arc can
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diagnose it because the people come in just riding in pain,
nause as as heck, grabbing their back and they can't
get in a comfortable position because usually people in pain
right they don't want to move. They just sit very
quietly and don't move. But kidney stone is unusual because
you're in a lot of pain, but you're all over
the place, and so thankfully it's not super hard to
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diagnose with kids. It's just that you don't think about it.
But when a kid comes in with that same exact thing,
grabbing their back, writhing in pain, a lot of times
it'll end up being a kidney stone.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, I think kidney stone.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
The thing about kidney stone pain is it's you know,
the thing is happening here and pointing to my flank,
but it affects your whole body. Yeah, and you can't
stay still, you can't and nothing helps.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So right, why what's why would this be? Is it environment?
Is it diet?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Is it something's happening evolutionarily? What's going on that more
kids are getting these stones?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah? I think that there. You know, correlation never really
proves that it's a cause, but clearly our diets have
a lot more highly processed food have a lot more
salt in them. We know that salt can contribute to this,
so it is likely that the increased salt intake that
we can document in kids over time is probably contributing
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to this. And you know, there are probably some genetic
factors as well. But I'm sure that environmentally it's more
diet and maybe dehydration, although you know that it's hard
to know whether that really contributes or not.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It would be now, could a diet, let's assuming a
stable intake of water, Yeah, I assume more processed foods
probably equals more sodium, for example, And could that we
have these kids who are drinking theoretically enough water, but
because of what they're eating, they're actually dehydrated.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean they could get more dehydrated, right, because
you use water to get rid of the extra salt. Right,
you're flushing that salt out through your kidneys. And salt
is like a water sponge, you know, it grabs the
water and pulls it with it. So that's why people
who have congestive heart failure or you know, older people,
when they eat too much salt, their legs can swell up,
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their ankles will swell up. That's the salt sucking the
water into the tissue, but when you're trying to get
rid of it, it pulls it out through the urine.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So what are we doing for these kids? I mean, obviously,
if they have one right now and they're in acute pain,
what do you do? You do the thing they told
me the first time I had one, which is like,
you just gotta wait for it to pass.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Or are their interventions?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah? So, I mean as far as treating the kidney
stone that's already there. You know, we have medications that
will relax the r eater, which is the tube that
goes from the kidney to the bladder, and that's where
the pain is. It's when it passes from the kidney
to the bladder. A lot of people think it's when
it passes out, because in your mind that sounds much
more painful, but that tube is larger and usually the
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stone just passes right through. So when it's blocking the kidney,
then the tube dilates and that stretch that's the worst
pain you can experience. That's why childbirth is so painful.
Gall Stones and kidney stones, they're probably the three most
painful things that the human body experiences, because when a
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tube in your body dilates, that is more painful than
even like being stabbed or those type of things. So
we try and relax the tube, we let the stone pass,
and sometimes you need to go up into the bladder
with a scope from the outside. You go up through
the hole into the bladder and then you look at
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the ury or and they sometimes they can get a
camera up in there and either break up the stone
or grab it pull it through. And the other option
is to put a like a diverting type of catheter
past the stone, so that way the little tube will
allow the urine to flow past the stone.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Ugh, I've had. I had two of those in three days.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Once wow, the thing where they knock you out and
they go up through your urethra up in there, because
I had one and they took it out, and then
there was another one that they missed and I had.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
To go back. Not fun.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm not looking for any sympathy from you, though, doctor Jim,
And it's all under control now.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I've seen plenty of people lens severe pain, and as
you'll get plenty of sympathy for me. Those are that
is definitely one of the most painful things we treat.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's end with this, because
I didn't think this was possible.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
This is really true. A woman's tonsoles grew back.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yes, it's actually true. It can happen. So, you know,
tonsils are these just kind of vague tissue that helps
It just helps you fight infection in the back of
your throat and it's not necessarily a well described oregon
kind of like a kidney or something like that. So
the doctor is just scooping out that tonsiler tissue. And
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there's even something called a tonsil otomy where they leave
a layer of them there. They just scoop out most
of it, but leave a thin layer that's even more
likely for it to grow back. So if there's any
tissue left behind, some of it can grow back. Exceedingly rare,
like maybe five percent of the time at the most,
the tonsilar tissue can grow back, and that doesn't really
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have any negative effects. It's even more rare that somebody
whose tonsil throws back would have to have another surgery.
Typically by taking those tonsils out, over time, people get
better anyway, and they'll and they don't need any additional treatment.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And my last question on this, do you know, does
the person know that their tonsils are back or something's
going on in there and they go to the doctor,
or is this something that's discovered pursuant just a regular
exam and then the doctor goes, oh, look at that,
you have consoles And then you go what they were
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not supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
There anymore right now?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, And they don't usually look like normal tonsils. So
I've had people come and say, I've got these bumps
in the back of my throat. I don't know what
they are, and I'm like, well, that looks like tonsiler tissue,
and they said, that's not possible. I have my tonsils removed,
and you know, you just say, well, it looks like
some of it kind of grew back, and that's what
that is. So it's usually just an incidental finding. It's
not typically something people come in for. But sometimes people are,
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you know, kind of obsessive about checking things out and
they look in the mirror, they check in the back,
and they see these things, and they'll come to the
doctor and ask about it.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
All right, very good, doctor, Jim. Always good to talk
to you. We'll talk to you against you too, all right,
take care, all right, buddy.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
There he goes doctor Jim Keeney, Chief medical Officer, Dignity
Hell Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, Wayne Resnik
here for one more segment, and then Gary and Shannon
are going to come aboard, and that segment shall be
animals in.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
The news, but never upsetting. Oh oh, yes, it's heavy petting.
And there's a theme.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I didn't really realize it, but there's a theme in
this heavy petting, which is suction. There are animals that
accomplish different things through the use of suction, which is
usually creating a negative vacuum which then draws whatever you're
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trying to get toward you, which is how leeches work.
That's how leeches get your blood. I mean not now,
they're not around now getting your blood, but that's how
leeches got blood for oh so long, by attaching themselves
and creating negative pressure and causing the blood to be
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sucked up into their mouths. And medicine has looked at
this and said, yeah, we got to do something like
this because there's two ways right now, primary ways to
get blood out of you, and one is with a needle.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And it works great, but people don't like it. Some
people are fine.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Other people have a real phobia, and that's a real
thing that is not somebody just being I don't know,
a wilting willow. A phobia of needles is a very
real thing that the people who have it fear. They
can faint, they can become suddenly like they're fine, and
then there's the needle and suddenly they're exhausted and they
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just flop over. So sometimes instead they'll do the fingerprick device. Now,
if you're afraid of a needle, I don't know why
you wouldn't be at least a little afraid of a
thing going on the end of your finger. But in
any event, here's the problem that's not very reliable. It
doesn't get enough blood out. And so if you try
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to do a blood test by finger pricking any of
the normal blood tests that normally require a needle draw,
you're not going to necessarily get accurate results. So that's
not great. It's better than nothing, but it's not the best.
The gold standard would be would really be leach technology,
except leech technology has one downside, and that is the
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leeches will not give you the blood that they have
taken from the person they're eating it. So that isn't
gonna work either. And so what a team of scientists
in Zurich did is they design this thing. It's a
round suction cup. It's less than one inch around, and
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it has little micro needles in it. They are so
small that they don't really even read to your eye
as needles, and so they're not gonna nobody's going to
be afraid of them. And you put it suction cup
on the arm and you're creating this negative vacuum suction.
The needles do not have to go as far into you. Obviously,
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the needle that's got to get all the way to
your veins or even the fingerprick thing. They just go
in a little bit and the suction brings the blood.
You don't go to the blood. The blood comes to you.
Almost no discomfort for anybody, a few people, a tiny
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bit of minimal discomfort and not scary to look at.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Thank you leeches.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now, I don't watch TV per se like Network TV,
so I don't know if they still have ads for
Denture adhesives, but they used to constantly ads for denture adhesives. Oh,
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I can chomp on this apple because I use you
know what, it's been so long. I can't even name
a denture adhesive product off the top of my head.
Kind of feel bad.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
But anyway, people.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Who have dentures, they've got to stay in your mouth somehow,
And there used to be all these pastes and things
you would put on them to keep them in there.
And now scientists have taken a cue from the octopus
to come up with what they hope is a better
solution because the octopus has those suction cups, see the
theme on their legs, and that allows them to stick
to stuff and they can stick like very strongly by
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creating the suction and so what some researchers did at
King's College, London, Faculty of Dentistry, Oral and Craniofacial Sciences,
you know them. They've made very tiny suction cups that
are designed into three D printed dentures. So instead of
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spreading something on your gums and then pushing the fake
teeth on there, you just push them on there and
these little suction cups form again vacuum suction with your gums.
And they're strong enough. They're twice as strong as any
existing adhesive way of doing it. But they're not so
strong because I know what you're thinking already. What if
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you put them in there so strong, I can't get them.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Out when I need to?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, don't you worry about that because apparently they can.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Be removed at will.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Now I have another story here, but Gary and Shannon
I believe have some things to say about their show,
So I don't know if you guys are ready now.
If you are ready now, you are welcome to pop on.
And if you're not, I can talk about scientists finally
figuring out why the hell orange cats are almost, if
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not always dudes. I will give three seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Three Hi, two?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Hey, how are you right under the wire before people
had to hear about orange cats being dudes all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Shannon, Hello, Hi, we are going to you so much. Oh,
thank you so much. I remember here Gary chuckling.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
No, he's just staring there with his face. You know
when it does that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
This is a sad tud Okay, this is my sad
time face.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Wayne.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
I remember the first time I was on the air
with you.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I don't know if you're going to remember this, but
we were. I totally remember it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I actually see in my mind's eye before they it was,
you know, before they remodeled the studios, so I know,
I know how we were sitting and how we were
looking at each other.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And there you were framed in the news booth window.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
And I gathered myself as a newsperson, a very serious,
buttoned up newsperson.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I was a reporter.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
I'm filling in anchoring for Gary Hoffman, and I'm very serious,
and I had not experienced the fun side of radio.
And then you just sprung it upon me, and you
sprung upon this bit about Thanksgiving Day foods and how
we were health experts and we had to bad talk
all of Thanksgiving foods and what they would do and
I fell into your trap and I had the most
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fun day I had in radio ever in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Oh my goodness, Well that's so wonderful. And look at
you now. Well, I mean up until that point.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Now I have much more fun every day, but up
until I'm just kidding, but up until that point, I
didn't realize how much fun it could be just you know,
ding around.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, that that is what I remember that very well.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And you can also thank Gary, and I can thank
Gary for that for that kind of thing happening too,
because Gary also, you know, a news anchor and did
a great job with the part of it that is
being a news anchor.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
But Gary also always very game. Oh you to do
a goof? Do you to have a laugh.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I'm sure you remember some of those things that we did,
Gary as well.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
The one thing that I remember that will always stand
out in my head is the day the Clown cried.
We did this story about the Jerry Lewis movie about
a circus clown that was in a Nazi concentration camp,
and I pretended to be pretend to be somebody who
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has seen the movie and was trying to trying to
argue on behalf of releasing it wide so that everybody
could see this story about Jerry Lewis as a clown
in a concentration.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Can I'm gonna have to do the show on my
own today, aren't. I can't do those jokes anymore.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Wayne was interviewing me as serious as possible, and I
was absolutely crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Supposed to be supposed to be the worst movie ever shot.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
And arguably, or at least the rumor has it is
it's never actually been finished, but some other people have
said that it is finished and it just sits in
a vault somewhere.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, listen, you really both of you are.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
In the absolute pantheon of my favorite people, not just
at the station and not just to work.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
With, but in life.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh, Wayne, and you ended up hosting a show together,
which I like to think somehow some vibes for me
went out into the universe from liking you guys so much.
But in any event, it is really true, and I
do have both of your phone numbers.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
I was just gonna say, don't stop the irreverent texts
and the talking.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Ess.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I will greatly miss that. No, I do like to
I listen to you guys, and once in a while
I will just like I gotta tell. Usually, usually I
send it to you, Shannon, because you're more likely to
I feel like you're more likely to then pass it along.
And Gary, I feel like sometimes he'll look at it
and go, I don't really need to perpetrate whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
This nonsense is nailed it. But I will not stop.
I will not be stopped. So don't you worry about that. Good?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
All right, guys, do you want to plug anything about your.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Show or no?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
I you and we miss you.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Our show pales in comparison to your career, so absolutely,
Oh my goodness, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But I do love you both very much and we
will continue to be in touch. Ladies and gentlemen, Gary
and Shannon are coming up next. It's KFI AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show. Catch my
show Monday through Friday six am to nine am, and
anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
You're listen sings KFI AM six forty the Bill Handle
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good morning, It's a Bill Handle Show. He's back from vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
On Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Wayne Resnik here until nine o'clock. Then it's Gary and
Shannon time. Now some stories that we're watching for you here.
One thing you should know is that supporters of the
Menendez brothers who want them to be re sentenced and
immediately released from prison, are meeting with the new DA
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in La County, Nathan Hawkman. Over twenty members of the
family of the murdered parents are supporting the Menendez brothers,
saying that they suffered terrible abuse at trauma and also
that they have demonstrated rehabilitation over the last thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Nathan Hakman certainly will not be as gung ho to
do something on their behalf as the outgoing what's his
face George Gascone? All right, let's talk about it. Colorado
is still trying to figure out how to tell if
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you're too stoned to be driving with alcohol.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We have a standard point eight.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
If you are point eight blood alcohol level or higher,
you are presumed to be impaired. You can still be
convicted of driving under the influence with a lower blood
alcohol level, but they will have to prove your impairment
other ways. That's what the roadside sobriety test is for.
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That's why you have to walk the line and touch
your nose and say the alphabet backwards, because they can't.
It's they could say, his blood alcohol level is point
oh five, and that's the only evidence that we have.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's not good enough.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But his blood alcohol is point oh five and he
was unsteady on his feet and he was lurning his words. Ah,
now we have a case, all right. Well, with marijuana,
the impairments are different. That's the first thing. A stoned
driver does not look like or act like a drunk driver.
And it's not clear what level of cannabis THC specifically
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in your blood should be the cutoff point for when
you are presumptively impaired. And that's the only evidence that
they need, and of course what technology exists to measure
the amount of THC in your blood. And further too more,
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because unlike alcohol marijuana, the THC from marijuana is detectable
in your system for a long long time after you
are high with alcohol. Typically is not a h undred
percent of the case. Some people metabolize alcohol differently and
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so forth. But typically, as you get less drunk, your
blood alcohol level goes down, and certainly within several hours
unless you have just I mean, if you have really
gotten blackout drunk. Otherwise, within several hours, if you stop,
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your blood alcohol level is going to get back to zero. Marijuana,
as you know, could be detected with a blood or
urine test for weeks in some cases.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So this is all the big challenge. So here's what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
When I said Colorado is trying to figure it out,
what I mean is that this research is going on
in Colorado. And here is what they are doing. They
have a car simulator. Okay, if you're going to measure
the effect of intoxicants on driving, that makes a lot
of sense. You have a driving simulator. Beautiful. They also
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have and I don't even know why they have them,
They have these vans that look like hippie vans with
the God's eyes and the tapestries of the whole thing.
And they're paying people to get high and then get
into a simulator. What a way to make a buck.
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Some people sell their plasma, and some people get paid
to get stoned and pretend they're driving because they're trying
to get to some way to scientifically, accurately, fairly and
consistently measure what's going on so that when cops go
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out they can have the same level of certainty that
they have now with alcohol. And if there's any DUI
lawyers listening, I'm not saying it's one hundred percent certainty
all the time. I mean, I know there's little little
variations and things where possibly the reading is not so accurate.
But I'm saying there's a standardized approach and some standardized
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numbers that cops have at their disposal that they just
don't really have. With marijuana, national data on the effects
of marijuana on road safety is kind of spotty. It
seems to be fairly well accepted that if you're high,
it can impede You're impeded your ability to respond quickly
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to let's say, some jumps out in front of the road,
your ability to stop, and also your ability to judge
distances accurately. I don't know that anybody's saying that's not true.
So there's a couple of studies that they're working on
in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
One of them is what I told you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
They pay people to get stoned and they get into
a car simulator, and that way they can get a
sense of what specifically happens to your motor skills, your reflexes,
your vision, and they need to here's the deal. They
need to have all kinds of different people get all
kinds of different stoned because what affects a habitual user,
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or how a habitual user is affected might be totally
different than an occasional user. So you have to have
all levels of potheads basically doing that study. And then
there's another study where they're trying to make a portable
breathalyzer that figures out not just what your blood level
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is of THC, but can tell you, or at least
come close to telling you, how recently you used that marijuana,
because that's the key. You pull somebody over, there must
have been a reason you pulled them over, but it's
not enough, Like it wasn't all they were weaving all
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over the place or something like that. Maybe you pulled
them over for a light being out and maybe you
just feel like, I don't know, you just get a
vibe that maybe they're high, but nothing you can pinpoint.
And then so they you test their THCHC level and
they're positive for THC and they say, yeah, I smoked
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marijuana two days ago. And you're the cop and you go,
I don't believe that. I think you're stoned. And you
go into court and the cop says, hey, man, I
pulled them over because his tail light was out and
he had THC and I think he was stoned. And
the guy goes, I wasn't stoned. He's not saying what
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I was doing that was bad driving, and I'm telling
you I smoked marijuana two days before. That case gets dismissed.
But if they can say this scientific device shows he
smoked marriorana two hours before we pulled them over, those
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cases might stand up. So that's all the stuff that
they're working on. It happens to be happening in Colorado.
We are up to I believe we've got thirty nine
states have medical marijuana, and we're at a couple a
dozen for recreational So it's definitely becoming an all across
the country issue on the roads. It is Friday, it
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is the pill Handle Show, and it is time to
talk about the things we love to put in our mouse.
It's foody Friday, and we do start with a pickle Mania.
Twenty twenty four was the year when every damn thing
had to taste like pickles. I don't know who started it.
I know it was early in the year when nature
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made a supplement company put out pickled flavored gummy vitamins.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I know that, but I don't know what came before.
But I know what came throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Tangy pickled doritos, grill mate steal, pickles, seasoning for your
steak or your chicken, pickle mayonnaise, pickle hummus, pickle cookies,
pickle gummies. And then you had those portable pouches of pickles,
the gogurt of pickles. Also, it wasn't just products, it
was events. It was spicy pickle challenges. It was doing
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those what did they call them, pickleback shots at the
bar tay in a show with pickle juice.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Pickle juice and doctor pepper a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Somebody made corn puffs, but they they were greenish like pickles,
and they tasted like pickles, and they were called pickleballs.
Get it, pickleball. The game pickleballs, the snack. Pittsburgh has
a summer festival called Picklesburg because HJ. Hines is located
there and they're big in pickles and they had record attendants.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And who do we have to blame for this? Because
I like pickles?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I like them.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
There's very little I can think of though that's not
a pickle that I want to taste like a pickle.
I think TikTok is to blame. Do you know if
you put a pickle video, any kind of pickle related
video on TikTok, you can get two million viewers. And
also TikTok and I can't believe that they have enough
data to keep track of this, but they do, which
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is scary. And by the way, one of the reasons
why the people who want to ban it might have
a point because of how much data they have. If
you ask somebody from TikTok right now how many pickle
related tiktoks are on your platform, they will be able
to tell you, as of this week, over two hundred
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and fifty one million pickle related tiktoks.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You ever made glickles? Did you ever see glickles?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
This is where apparently you take edible glitter and you
put it in a jar of pickles, and now you
have glickles because pickles can have to be blinged out.
Now I'm not into it. Is anybody there into it?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I like pickles, but I'm not putting glitter on my pickles.
And now I don't want I don't want pickle flavored
something else. I want to pickle flavored pickle. And I
try to pickle back once and I was not a fan.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It wasn't for me. I don't see what the point is.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, I but again, can I tell you something.
I sound like the curmudgeon.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's they're not. Nobody's hurting anybody with all the pickle stuff.
So I'm not mad. I don't want to stop it.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I don't even think the people that are doing it
are like bad or weird or anything.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's just not for me.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Maybe, you know what, I just really maybe I feel
left out because I did not participate in pickling twenty four. Michelle,
stay there because you're Italian. Uh, and you're not just
regular Italian, you are you are like arrogant Italian is
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for well, we'll see, well the story is for you.
Another thing that happened in twenty twenty four is every
Italian restaurant and many restaurants that are not Italian restaurants
started serving one of the most renowned and basic pasta
dishes ever, caccio at peppe, cheese and pepper. And this
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is as supposed to be if I understand it. You
got the pasta and you have some cheese, and you
have some pepper, grated pepper, and maybe a tiny bit
of some butter or something to kind of make it
all go together. But apparently now there's a big contra
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coming from people such as yourself, that everybody in restaurants.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
In the United States, that.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
They're all screwing up this very basic Roman pasta dish
by drowning it in butter.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Yes, yes, it's yes, most I've had it. And then
like I'm gonna say, I've had the dish in like
ten different restaurants, because my Italian restaurants you have to
test them by doing a very simple dish like this
to see if they're any good. And out of those
ten restaurants, there have been maybe two that have done
it right, and Anaheim White House is one of them.
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By the way, Bruno does an excellent one. Most of
them are are using too much butter.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Some you're not.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I was taught that you don't even use butter, that
when you're when you put it in the pan, you
take a little bit of the starchy pasta water and
you put it with the cheese and the pepper, and
that's what melts everything together. So I find that that
is correct. Many many restaurants are using way too much better.
There's just drenched and it's not supposed to be like that.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Well here's my guess.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
My guess is this is a thing of trying to
appeal to an American palette and that if a lot
of Americans taste it and authentic caccio at Pepe, they
would go what is this and that you have to
drown things in butter to get to get Americans to
eat it. But people are starting to really really speak
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out about it, and those people are.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Arrogant Italians like Michelle Cute. It's too test for me.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
It's this dish and then a regular spaghetti with meat
Bull's dish and if they don't do that, well then
it's not a good time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Less.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, then they hear about it for days on end.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yes, I know, I know what it's like with you
all right joining us now as he does every week.
Doctor Jim Keeney, chief Medical Officer Dignity helped Saint Mary
Medical Center in Long Beach, A board certified er doctor
and a good guy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Welcome back to the show, doctor Jim.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Thanks Wayne, morning morning.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Let's get right into this because, oh boy, anytime anything
about kidney stones is in the news, I perk up
because I have had at least twelve of them.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Really my life.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Until yeah, then they figured it out and then I
haven't had any. I haven't had one in like twenty
five years. But man, I went through a period of
time where they just kept forming. Now in my case,
we're not going to spend too much time. But in
my case, just you know, me to doctor, they were
uric acid kidney stones, not calcium oxalate.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
But in any event, so that's fine.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Here's the thing, though, I didn't have my first kidney
stone until I was an adult. Now apparently kids are
getting kidney stones.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, I mean that's always happened, but there seems to
be an increase in kids getting kidney stones. It is
shocking because we think of kidney stones as a disease
of middle aged white guys, and it definitely seems to
be connected to certain things, certain behaviors like salt intake dehydration.
When your body is trying to get rid of salt
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through the kidneys, it can also pull calcium at the
same time, and then that results in extra concentration there
and you can cause calcium oxylate stones, which is about
eighty five percent of kidney stones. And I mean with
kidney stones are so painful that usually the nurse or
the admitting person in the front of the arc can
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diagnose it because the people come in just riding in pain,
nause as as heck, grabbing their back and they can't
get in a comfortable position because usually people in pain
right they don't want to move. They just sit very
quietly and don't move. But kidney stone is unusual because
you're in a lot of pain, but you're all over
the place, and so thankfully it's not super hard to
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diagnose with kids. It's just that you don't think about it.
But when a kid comes in with that same exact thing,
grabbing their back, writhing in pain, a lot of times
it'll end up being a kidney stone.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, I think kidney stone.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
The thing about kidney stone pain is it's you know,
the thing is happening here and pointing to my flank,
but it affects your whole body. Yeah, and you can't
stay still, you can't and nothing helps.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
So right, why what's why would this be? Is it environment?
Is it diet?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Is it something's happening evolutionarily? What's going on that more
kids are getting these stones?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah? I think that there. You know, correlation never really
proves that it's a cause, but clearly our diets have
a lot more highly processed food have a lot more
salt in them. We know that salt can contribute to this,
so it is likely that the increased salt intake that
we can document in kids over time is probably contributing
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to this. And you know, there are probably some genetic
factors as well. But I'm sure that environmentally it's more
diet and maybe dehydration, although you know that it's hard
to know whether that really contributes or not.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It would be now, could a diet, let's assuming a
stable intake of water, Yeah, I assume more processed foods
probably equals more sodium, for example, And could that we
have these kids who are drinking theoretically enough water, but
because of what they're eating, they're actually dehydrated.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean they could get more dehydrated, right, because
you use water to get rid of the extra salt. Right,
you're flushing that salt out through your kidneys. And salt
is like a water sponge, you know, it grabs the
water and pulls it with it. So that's why people
who have congestive heart failure or you know, older people,
when they eat too much salt, their legs can swell up,
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their ankles will swell up. That's the salt sucking the
water into the tissue, but when you're trying to get
rid of it, it pulls it out through the urine.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
So what are we doing for these kids? I mean, obviously,
if they have one right now and they're in acute pain,
what do you do? You do the thing they told
me the first time I had one, which is like,
you just gotta wait for it to pass.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Or are their interventions?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah? So, I mean as far as treating the kidney
stone that's already there. You know, we have medications that
will relax the r eater, which is the tube that
goes from the kidney to the bladder, and that's where
the pain is. It's when it passes from the kidney
to the bladder. A lot of people think it's when
it passes out, because in your mind that sounds much
more painful, but that tube is larger and usually the
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stone just passes right through. So when it's blocking the kidney,
then the tube dilates and that stretch that's the worst
pain you can experience. That's why childbirth is so painful.
Gall Stones and kidney stones, they're probably the three most
painful things that the human body experiences, because when a
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tube in your body dilates, that is more painful than
even like being stabbed or those type of things. So
we try and relax the tube, we let the stone pass,
and sometimes you need to go up into the bladder
with a scope from the outside. You go up through
the hole into the bladder and then you look at
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the ury or and they sometimes they can get a
camera up in there and either break up the stone
or grab it pull it through. And the other option
is to put a like a diverting type of catheter
past the stone, so that way the little tube will
allow the urine to flow past the stone.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Ugh, I've had. I had two of those in three days.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Once wow, the thing where they knock you out and
they go up through your urethra up in there, because
I had one and they took it out, and then
there was another one that they missed and I had.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
To go back. Not fun.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm not looking for any sympathy from you, though, doctor Jim,
And it's all under control now.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I've seen plenty of people lens severe pain, and as
you'll get plenty of sympathy for me. Those are that
is definitely one of the most painful things we treat.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's end with this, because
I didn't think this was possible.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
This is really true. A woman's tonsoles grew back.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yes, it's actually true. It can happen. So, you know,
tonsils are these just kind of vague tissue that helps
It just helps you fight infection in the back of
your throat and it's not necessarily a well described oregon
kind of like a kidney or something like that. So
the doctor is just scooping out that tonsiler tissue. And
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there's even something called a tonsil otomy where they leave
a layer of them there. They just scoop out most
of it, but leave a thin layer that's even more
likely for it to grow back. So if there's any
tissue left behind, some of it can grow back. Exceedingly rare,
like maybe five percent of the time at the most,
the tonsilar tissue can grow back, and that doesn't really
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have any negative effects. It's even more rare that somebody
whose tonsil throws back would have to have another surgery.
Typically by taking those tonsils out, over time, people get
better anyway, and they'll and they don't need any additional treatment.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And my last question on this, do you know, does
the person know that their tonsils are back or something's
going on in there and they go to the doctor,
or is this something that's discovered pursuant just a regular
exam and then the doctor goes, oh, look at that,
you have consoles And then you go what they were
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not supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
There anymore right now?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, And they don't usually look like normal tonsils. So
I've had people come and say, I've got these bumps
in the back of my throat. I don't know what
they are, and I'm like, well, that looks like tonsiler tissue,
and they said, that's not possible. I have my tonsils removed,
and you know, you just say, well, it looks like
some of it kind of grew back, and that's what
that is. So it's usually just an incidental finding. It's
not typically something people come in for. But sometimes people are,
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you know, kind of obsessive about checking things out and
they look in the mirror, they check in the back,
and they see these things, and they'll come to the
doctor and ask about it.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
All right, very good, doctor, Jim. Always good to talk
to you. We'll talk to you against you too, all right,
take care, all right, buddy.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
There he goes doctor Jim Keeney, Chief medical Officer, Dignity
Hell Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, Wayne Resnik
here for one more segment, and then Gary and Shannon
are going to come aboard, and that segment shall be
animals in.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
The news, but never upsetting. Oh oh, yes, it's heavy petting.
And there's a theme.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I didn't really realize it, but there's a theme in
this heavy petting, which is suction. There are animals that
accomplish different things through the use of suction, which is
usually creating a negative vacuum which then draws whatever you're
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trying to get toward you, which is how leeches work.
That's how leeches get your blood. I mean not now,
they're not around now getting your blood, but that's how
leeches got blood for oh so long, by attaching themselves
and creating negative pressure and causing the blood to be
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sucked up into their mouths. And medicine has looked at
this and said, yeah, we got to do something like
this because there's two ways right now, primary ways to
get blood out of you, and one is with a needle.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And it works great, but people don't like it. Some
people are fine.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Other people have a real phobia, and that's a real
thing that is not somebody just being I don't know,
a wilting willow. A phobia of needles is a very
real thing that the people who have it fear. They
can faint, they can become suddenly like they're fine, and
then there's the needle and suddenly they're exhausted and they
(25:28):
just flop over. So sometimes instead they'll do the fingerprick device. Now,
if you're afraid of a needle, I don't know why
you wouldn't be at least a little afraid of a
thing going on the end of your finger. But in
any event, here's the problem that's not very reliable. It
doesn't get enough blood out. And so if you try
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to do a blood test by finger pricking any of
the normal blood tests that normally require a needle draw,
you're not going to necessarily get accurate results. So that's
not great. It's better than nothing, but it's not the best.
The gold standard would be would really be leach technology,
except leech technology has one downside, and that is the
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leeches will not give you the blood that they have
taken from the person they're eating it. So that isn't
gonna work either. And so what a team of scientists
in Zurich did is they design this thing. It's a
round suction cup. It's less than one inch around, and
(26:36):
it has little micro needles in it. They are so
small that they don't really even read to your eye
as needles, and so they're not gonna nobody's going to
be afraid of them. And you put it suction cup
on the arm and you're creating this negative vacuum suction.
The needles do not have to go as far into you. Obviously,
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the needle that's got to get all the way to
your veins or even the fingerprick thing. They just go
in a little bit and the suction brings the blood.
You don't go to the blood. The blood comes to you.
Almost no discomfort for anybody, a few people, a tiny
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bit of minimal discomfort and not scary to look at.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Thank you leeches.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now, I don't watch TV per se like Network TV,
so I don't know if they still have ads for
Denture adhesives, but they used to constantly ads for denture adhesives. Oh,
(27:50):
I can chomp on this apple because I use you
know what, it's been so long. I can't even name
a denture adhesive product off the top of my head.
Kind of feel bad.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
But anyway, people.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Who have dentures, they've got to stay in your mouth somehow,
And there used to be all these pastes and things
you would put on them to keep them in there.
And now scientists have taken a cue from the octopus
to come up with what they hope is a better
solution because the octopus has those suction cups, see the
theme on their legs, and that allows them to stick
to stuff and they can stick like very strongly by
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creating the suction and so what some researchers did at
King's College, London, Faculty of Dentistry, Oral and Craniofacial Sciences,
you know them. They've made very tiny suction cups that
are designed into three D printed dentures. So instead of
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spreading something on your gums and then pushing the fake
teeth on there, you just push them on there and
these little suction cups form again vacuum suction with your gums.
And they're strong enough. They're twice as strong as any
existing adhesive way of doing it. But they're not so
strong because I know what you're thinking already. What if
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you put them in there so strong, I can't get them.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Out when I need to?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, don't you worry about that because apparently they can.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Be removed at will.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Now I have another story here, but Gary and Shannon
I believe have some things to say about their show,
So I don't know if you guys are ready now.
If you are ready now, you are welcome to pop on.
And if you're not, I can talk about scientists finally
figuring out why the hell orange cats are almost, if
(29:44):
not always dudes. I will give three seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Three Hi, two?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Hey, how are you right under the wire before people
had to hear about orange cats being dudes all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Shannon, Hello, Hi, we are going to you so much. Oh,
thank you so much. I remember here Gary chuckling.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
No, he's just staring there with his face. You know
when it does that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
This is a sad tud Okay, this is my sad
time face.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Wayne.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
I remember the first time I was on the air
with you.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I don't know if you're going to remember this, but
we were. I totally remember it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I actually see in my mind's eye before they it was,
you know, before they remodeled the studios, so I know,
I know how we were sitting and how we were
looking at each other.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And there you were framed in the news booth window.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
And I gathered myself as a newsperson, a very serious,
buttoned up newsperson.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I was a reporter.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
I'm filling in anchoring for Gary Hoffman, and I'm very serious,
and I had not experienced the fun side of radio.
And then you just sprung it upon me, and you
sprung upon this bit about Thanksgiving Day foods and how
we were health experts and we had to bad talk
all of Thanksgiving foods and what they would do and
I fell into your trap and I had the most
(31:00):
fun day I had in radio ever in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Oh my goodness, Well that's so wonderful. And look at
you now. Well, I mean up until that point.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Now I have much more fun every day, but up
until I'm just kidding, but up until that point, I
didn't realize how much fun it could be just you know,
ding around.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, that that is what I remember that very well.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And you can also thank Gary, and I can thank
Gary for that for that kind of thing happening too,
because Gary also, you know, a news anchor and did
a great job with the part of it that is
being a news anchor.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
But Gary also always very game. Oh you to do
a goof? Do you to have a laugh.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I'm sure you remember some of those things that we did,
Gary as well.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
The one thing that I remember that will always stand
out in my head is the day the Clown cried.
We did this story about the Jerry Lewis movie about
a circus clown that was in a Nazi concentration camp,
and I pretended to be pretend to be somebody who
(32:04):
has seen the movie and was trying to trying to
argue on behalf of releasing it wide so that everybody
could see this story about Jerry Lewis as a clown
in a concentration.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Can I'm gonna have to do the show on my
own today, aren't. I can't do those jokes anymore.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Wayne was interviewing me as serious as possible, and I
was absolutely crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Supposed to be supposed to be the worst movie ever shot.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
And arguably, or at least the rumor has it is
it's never actually been finished, but some other people have
said that it is finished and it just sits in
a vault somewhere.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, listen, you really both of you are.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
In the absolute pantheon of my favorite people, not just
at the station and not just to work.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
With, but in life.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh, Wayne, and you ended up hosting a show together,
which I like to think somehow some vibes for me
went out into the universe from liking you guys so much.
But in any event, it is really true, and I
do have both of your phone numbers.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
I was just gonna say, don't stop the irreverent texts
and the talking.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Ess.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I will greatly miss that. No, I do like to
I listen to you guys, and once in a while
I will just like I gotta tell. Usually, usually I
send it to you, Shannon, because you're more likely to
I feel like you're more likely to then pass it along.
And Gary, I feel like sometimes he'll look at it
and go, I don't really need to perpetrate whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
This nonsense is nailed it. But I will not stop.
I will not be stopped. So don't you worry about that. Good?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
All right, guys, do you want to plug anything about your.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Show or no?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
I you and we miss you.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Our show pales in comparison to your career, so absolutely,
Oh my goodness, that's not true.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But I do love you both very much and we
will continue to be in touch. Ladies and gentlemen, Gary
and Shannon are coming up next. It's KFI AM six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
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show Monday through Friday six am to nine am, and
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