January 14, 2025 • 32 mins
Amy King and Neil Saavedra join Bill for Handel on the News. L.A Fires: Most serious weather warning issued for parts of region. Crews stop forward progress of fast-moving brush fire in Ventura County. DA announces wildfire looting, arson arrests; life sentences possible. California Wildfires: Governor Gavin Newsom adds Los Angeles wildfire relief, recovery to ‘Trump-proof’ special; session agenda.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Wake Up Call on demand from KFI
AM six forty and now Handle on the news.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Ladies and gentlemen, here's Bill Handle.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Good morning, everybody, go handle here, morning crowd. It is
a Tuesday, January fourteen, as we look at.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
The fires hopefully yeah, we've got another fire weather.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Event.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Unfortunately it's happening today through tomorrow, so we'll be talking
a little bit about that and hopefully we'll be talking
about how it's not happening. So in the meantime, let
me say hello, Amy, good morning.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And Neil is back today. Good morning, Neil, Hey buddy,
and they're god good, good, good good. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Cono there you are. And and producer extraordinaire Hello Bill.
Hello Chris Berry. I don't know if you guys know
who is one of the senior senior people here at
iHeart who's with us for a while. And he came
into the studio just before we went on the air
(01:20):
and said, Bill, I'd like to take the Morning crew
to lunch or brunch after the show on Thursday to
thank you guys for the great work you're doing. And
I said, why would I want to have lunch with
these people. I see them every day. Now, don't do
that to me. So there's a very good chance.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That will be going without you.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're going to order something to
go and drop it off.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So you picked the place, Neil. Yeah, who the hell
wants to hang out with the handle?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So anyway, and this has been here like twenty four
to seven dealing with this with the news.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So and he runs. I'm trying to remember what he does.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Chris, You like you run all the kiosks in the
office buildings that iHeart is in, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And I counted the coffee. Yeah, I keep the coffee
yeah machine going.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I would like another cup please?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
You know what I'll do Next time Pittman comes into
the studio, which he does on occasion, I'm going to
ask him that question. Do you mind getting me a
cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Chris? You work with pittnamit send Berry over to get it.
He probably will. All right, hello to everybody.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We're gonna do some offshoots of the fire story, the fire,
of course, being by far the biggest story of well
in terms of fires in the last I don't know decade.
Here the worst fire in Southern California history. And we
don't have to go through talking about the big and
we're gonna have to go through talking about the complete
decimation of Southern California. I mean, we've gone through that,
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So we're gonna do is at seven o'clock talk about
how one of the problems with the fire is insurance
is not expensive enough. And I know that sounds counterintuitive,
but I'm gonna tell you explain that to you. And
then someone from the National Weather Service is gonna explain
how this Santa Anna is very different from other Santa
(03:31):
Anna wins and I think we're gonna grab someone, and
I know you're grabbing someone, and but I want it
to be someone of the Jewish faith. Why is this
Santa Anna different than other Santa ANDAs that's a passover resference,
nobody's gonna get that. Yeah, I know, why is this
night different another night's? Okay, you're right, no one is.
(03:53):
That's a little obscure. And then there's an organization that
actually is flying pets out of Southern California to other shelters.
It's an airline that flies pets out to make room
for him it's a lot of stuff going on, and
then I know I'm giving you the highlight of the show,
but I'm going to lay out what we're going to have.
(04:14):
My friend Chuck Lovers, who is or was with La
County Fire for thirty something years. You know the story
about the incarcerated firefighters, the prisoners who are fighting the fires.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
There's some six.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Hundred of them or nine hundred of them out on
the fire line. He ran those crews for decades, that's
what he did. So we're going to get an inside
view of how that prison program works and the controversy.
And there are people that, oh my god, you can't
do that to prisoners, leave me alone. They don't make
enough money. They're prisoners. So that's what's going on. So
(04:54):
lots and lots of stuff. So in the meantime, let's
do it, guys. Let's start with handle on the news
on this twonesday morning with Amy Neil and me lead. Sorry, well,
we've got two days of winds again, life threatening winds,
gusts up to seventy eighty miles an hour coming in. Amy,
(05:15):
let me defer to you because you're covering this more
so than I am. Because you're in front of that
computer in the news, What are we looking at in
terms of wind speed and when.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
The strongest of the winds are expected between now and
tomorrow at noon. The highest danger for winds this time
have shifted a little bit. It's not for the Malibu area,
but it's in western Los Angeles County and Ventura County,
eastern Ventura County, So like the Santa Clarita area and
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that I five and fourteen corridors, those are going to
be particularly hard hit by the winds expected to gust
fifty five to seventy miles per hour.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, it's to be tough, that is absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
If a fire starts and you have seventy mile an
hour winds, you're back to We're back to where we
were where the firefighters just have no chance, zero chance
of containing a fire like that once it ignites. And
so hopefully after this point. There was one fire that
came out that started, but the firefighters were able to
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tackle that and bring it down, and that's the only chance.
Now firefighters have a chance. The only chance they have
to put out the fire is getting it very early.
And that's the policy change that has happened over the
last few years is the firefighting teams and I'm talking
about aircraft two small fires, they go out and attack
it instantly, and that's to be the change.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
And the good news is that unlike when the fire
started last week, there's about ten thousand firefighters hanging out
just waiting for those fires to start.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, And that is the question that I have, and
that is we didn't anticipate these fires. We didn't anticipate
the extent and the ferocity of these fires. And the
only answer is to have thousands of firefighters waiting in
the wings, hundreds of airplanes waiting in the wings. What
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was in an interview yesterday with I think it was
on the national news I think it was ABC, where
the chief LA Fire Department was asked about how these
fires got out of control and how much equipment be needed,
and he said, in your normal fire, normal single single
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home or business fire, right one building, they send out
three fire engines.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Typically in order to make this have.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Gone away, they would need twenty six thousand pieces of
firefighting equipment.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's how you control this fire. And it still wouldn't
have happened.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And he said, we still would have no chance to
do it because the fire was moving at such a
rapid rate.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You couldn't out run the fire. You couldn't go at speed.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And outrun this fire. It was going so quickly with
one hundred mile an hour winds. But to make a
good road, we need twenty six thousand pieces of equipment,
and we need thousands of firefighters waiting by the wings.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Okay, how reasonable is that. We're going to talk a.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Little bit more about one of the reasons we have
so many fires and how we're so fire prone. Is
I'm going to tell you later on, actually at seven
o'clock why insurance is not expensive enough. That's our downfall.
I know, I love this, I love this topic all right, making.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Fast work of a fire cruise rapidly got a handle
on it. Had another fire that broke out just last night.
It broke it started an Oxnard near the River Ridge
golf Course. Throughout eight o'clock there was an evacuation order listed,
but they said that no homes were in danger of
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being destroyed. But the fire has been confined to a
river bet and it was stopped at about fifty six acres,
still not showing atainment, but they've stopped the forward progress
of it.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
All right, what a difference DA makes? Hey, Los Angeles,
see what I did there? Well, Angels County District Attorney
Nathan Hawkman, God bless him, announced a number of charges
against nine suspected looters and an alleged arsonist who isn't
tied to any of these fires. But this was just
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over the past week as these wildfires raged throughout our
beloved city here. So the charges for the alleged looters
are mostly residential Burgley, including I guess one of them
walked away with an Emmy Award from one of the
residents who lived in Pacivic Palisades. Several of those rested
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have previous felony convictions.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh my, I'm so suprised.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Hey, then Emmy's worth one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Oh wait, no, it's not.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
It costs a few h undred dollars to make, but
if it were made of solid gold, it would be
worth one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Fifty that's yeah, But some of them are.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
When you look at some of the Academy awards that
have been sold, they've gone for millions of dollars for
iconic films, iconic scripts, they have literally gone for a
zillion dollars.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
That's what I was going to say, that it's continued
upon what it was and where. But they're illegal to reproduce.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So oh yeah, I'm sure they're copyrighted.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
By the way, his defense is going to be best
performance for someone impersonating a burglar.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
On television. Okay, So yeah, it was covered on TV,
you know. Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Governor Newsom wants to jump start recovery efforts for the
wildfires with two and a half billion dollars. He expanded
his legislative session agenda that is focused on Trump proofing
California to include the response and recovery funding for the fires.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yesterday, who was it that said yes to amy one
of the new Trump folks coming in saying that we
will go ahead and give federal money. Adam Schiff was
being interviewed and he said that the Trump administration said
they will give federal money to California if certain conditions
are met. And he said, there's never been another time
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where Fed's have said, sure, we'll give disaster relief, but
here are the conditions that we want for disaster relief. So,
I mean, the war has already been declared between California
and Trump.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I mean, that's going to be a four year battle.
We know that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And usually the vast amount of money that comes in
for these kinds of disasters is federal money.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So there, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Homeowners and renters who lost their homes in the EAT
and fire are now suing Southern California.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Edison saw this coming, So you had at.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
Least five lawsuits were filed just yesterday alleging that the
company failed to de energize all of its electrical equipment
despite red flag warnings issued by the National Weather Service.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
So well, see that video that was taken early early
on in the Palisades fire, just when it started, and
a couple of homeowners took a video where it looks
like a fire was starting at the base of a
transmission tower. Yeah, and we don't know yet if the
fire had gone there or started there, and whether it
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did have anything to do with the power grid. But
already the lawsuits have been filed even before we know,
even before the investigation.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is even begun. So we'll see if PG and E
gets nailed for this.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Or no.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Southern California Edison, I think that was the utility, which
was not touched by the PG and E settlement. You know,
PG and E ended up paying billions of dollars and
was convicted. The corporation was convicted of criminal activity because
his power lines went down and sparked what was the
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last big fire? Whatever it was sparked that maybe it
was the was it the campfire that it sparked?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
A very lucky man's luck has run out. The guy
who won the largest ever powerball jackpot is Edwin Castro.
He won the two billion dollar jackpot in twenty twenty
three and promptly used some of his money to buy homes.
He bought a home in Malibu, won an Altadena, and
another one in the Hollywood Hills. Two of those homes
were in evacuation zones. The third in Palisades burned to
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the ground.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I want to point something out as I read this story,
and that is it's so.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Surprised that he would buy three homes.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Kind of interesting that one in Palisades, what an Altadena,
and then a third in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Or fires started, Yeah, there was the fire in the
Hollywood Hills last week.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, that's right. He must have burned the place down right.
But I want you to notice, usually when someone buys
a home. Remember one of the Powerball winners bought a
home in Malibu for thirty twenty three or twenty five
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Look at the cost of these homes.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
One is three point eight million dollars, another one is
what two points something million dollars. Considering someone won a
billion dollars, these are very modest homes.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It just occurred to me.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
If I want a billion dollars, I wouldn't be built.
I would buy a four million dollar home. I'd buy
a forty million dollar home, which is what everybody does.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He has a twenty five point five million dollar mansion.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Well, yeah, that's besides the point. That's the one he
lives in. So maybe these were rentals.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Those were for his help.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Could be, but I just noticed that he I brought
fairly modest homes, so he's living under his means with
a twenty five million dollar home.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Tom Hanks lost his house, didn't he do? I have
that right.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I'm not sure if he lost it or if it
was in the fire.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Was noted that twenty six million dollar home, so he
gets paid more than scale.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I assume for his pictures.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
He does, okay, all right.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Vladimir Zelenski said that he may send Ukrainian firefighters if needed,
to help battle the blazes going on here in California.
This was after Donald Trump Junior dragged the LA of
Los Angeles County Fire Department for donating some supplies to
Ukraine's defense.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So just on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
During the war, Yeah, when the war in Ukraine broke out,
they had obviously firefighters there to put out the fires
because artillery drones were hitting parts of Ukraine, and fire
department donated hoses, nozzles, turnouts, helmets, body armor, personal protective
equipment to help Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
And they're getting nailed for it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Gee, if they'd been here, if that equipment had been here,
the fires would have either been stopped or certainly would
have done as much damage.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I mean, complete crap all. We're hearing a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
If Karen Vass had been on site, the fires wouldn't
be as bad.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You think everything's been done right with these.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Fires, No, but what I think is happening. If everything
had been done right, it wouldn't have helped.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's all. These fires were so extraordinary, were.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
So so vicious, so all encompassing, it did not matter.
So you have one more reservoir, right that should have
been full. It would have done nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You're high that many gallons.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
That is.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
There was no water pressure up at the top of
some of these hills.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's what caused that.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
You there was two people on the planet to think
that nothing could be done.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Nothing could be done.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And by the way, you're right, there's only three of us,
one being the chief of the LA Fire Department.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
No, that's not what was said.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
You also have the chief saying that money would have
helped that other resources.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Really pull out, Yeah, pull that out.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I'd love to see that because from what I understand, Neil,
it's nothing would have helped this fire.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What we should do now, we can't fight them.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They did let those homes burn because they couldn't stop them.
They sat and watched those homes burn. They couldn't stop it.
They couldn't now run the fire before.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
There's so much that could have been done differently, like
what and the firefighters doing an amazing john like what Neil.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Resources one.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
We didn't even have uh, we didn't even have traffic
cops showing where people were to go during the.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Time, Bring traffic everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
The traffic cops would have been part of the group
that was just getting the hell out of Dodge as
quickly as possible.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
No one could stay in those areas.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Area for decades, and I have seen them controlled traffic
for the Not in.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
A fire like this, Neil, Not in this kind of fire.
I'm telling you, Neil, for everything I have read and
heard and saw, this fire was so intense, moving at
such a rapid pace.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
These were one.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Hundred mile an hour wins Neil, How do you stop it?
The fire chief said, Based on what I said earlier,
three fire units per house fire is typically what happens.
We would have needed twenty six thousand of these fire units.
And even then, the fire moves too quickly that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
At its peak blaze.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
That's assuming that it would have gotten to its peak blaze.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It was untenable. It was you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Had had we had you're right, had we had twenty thousand,
had we had twenty thousand pieces of equipment at exactly
those places where we needed, we probably could have stopped it.
Had we had several hundred more airplanes. Oh no, you
couldn't have airplanes because the winds were too high. Well,
had we invented airplanes that could fly in one hundred
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mile an hour wins, that would have helped Neil, You're
out of your mind. Communail, you're out of your mind.
Go back to your facility.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Nothing short of criminal.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Jack Smith's report on his investigation into President elect Trump
and his efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election has
been released. Smith's team states, in no uncertain terms they
believed Trump criminally attempted to subvert the will of the
people and overturn election results. And I believe Jack Smith
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said he thinks he would have got a conviction.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Oh yeah, he cited a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Pressure on state officials, We know that who he called,
We have that, we have that phone call, the fraudigal
elect plan, the pressure on Vice President Mike Spence not
to certify the riot on January sixth, and Jack Smiths
said that this is all criminal, which a lot of
us thought it was, and trying to subvert the election.
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What I don't understand is why President Trump try to
stop this from being released so much because it proves to.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Him and his followers that all this was a witch hunt.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You think he would just wear it as a badge
of honor instead of fighting fighting, fighting fighting to release
the report, so it was released a week before he
takes office.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Weird times. Let's hope this goes through.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Hamas is expected to release thirty three hostages during the
first phase of an emerging ceasefire agreement to be finalized
by negotiators there in Doha. To Israeli officials are the
ones backing this the statement first positive sign we've seen
in a long time, months and months that a truce
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between Israel and themas war may be in sight.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I have a question about this because Donald Trump has
said if a deal is not cut before I take office,
all hell is going to break loose in the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
How much of that.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Influenced Hamas and Israel because we know that happened before
with Ronald Reagan and the return of the American hostages
before Ronald Reagan took office at the end of the
Carter administration, and Ronald Reagan was rightly given credit for
speeding the process up because the Iranians were frightened of
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what was happening or what would happen if the hostages
weren't returned, I wonder if Hamas was at all influenced
by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I think yes, I think he would have something to
do with it. If Trump.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I mean, there were working, working, working, and they were
getting closer and closer. But I don't think this would
have wrapped up this week. But for Donald Trump being
sworn in.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
I think you're probably right. He's an interesting variable that
they are afraid of.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I mean, it's and he is so pro ISRAELI I mean,
the guy makes no bones about it. There is no
there's no middle ground, none of that. He is pro Israel,
and Hamas knows that. Although I don't know how much
more hell could break out in the Middle East, that's happening.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Now nothing short of criminal again. Special Counsel David Weiss
slammed President Biden's characterization of his investigation. I remember Biden
called Weiss's investigation into Hunter Biden raw politics when he
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pardoned his son. Weiss's prosecutors say they examined Hunter biden
years of drug and alcohol abuse, is controversial, foreign business dealings,
and procurement of a gun in twenty eighteen. Said his
work was thorough, impartial, and nonpartisan. And said other presidents
have pardon family members, but in doing so, none have
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taken the occasion as an opportunity to malign the public
servants at the Department of Justice based on solely false
ap Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Thank you. Especially effectively.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
What Biden is saying is it was part of his
view of the deep state that it was politics that
did it, and Why said no, no, this is what
we do. This is looking at it objectively. We do
not politicize investigations. So you've got President Biden joining the
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fray of attacking the law enforcement agencies.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And investigative agencies.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
In the United States, you know when it seems to
go against you, And obviously Biden is guilty of this too.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's a political witch hunt.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
That's what he said, basically, is the attack the case
against his son was effectively a political witch hunt. Without
using those words, welcome to the modern era of politics.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Oh and all the Democrats that are upset about the
stolen the stolen election.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That is going on and that Trump won.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Go figure, I haven't heard that very.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Much social media, my friend.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well media is kind of crazy, but I the stolen election,
by the way, was the majority of Republicans in this country,
seventy five percent of registered Republicans said the election was stolen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
When Biden was sworn in.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
You're not going to see seventy five percent of Democrats
out there saying the estelle the election was stolen. I
believe that Republicans are crazy when they thought the election
was stolen. I think the Democrats who say this election
was stolen are just as nuts. Hey, Bob, Hi, why
don't we just count the votes to see who ends that?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Whatever happened to that?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Is that no longer part of our election cycle.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
I don't believe in RS and d's. I believe people
are just crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Oh that's a good point.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Well, the days of hanging out or using the restroom
at Starbucks have gone the way of the Dodo bird
unless you buy something. They folks at Starbucks said yesterday
that they're reversing a policy that invited everyone into its
stores a new code of conduct.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Who would have thought that'd.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Go bonkers wrong here in southern California, but it did.
They will be posted in all company owned North American
stores banning you know, bans discrimination or harashment, harassment of people,
consumption ab outside alcohol.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Well, yeah, that's I mean that's typical. But you have
gone into Starbucks. I have occasionally, and they's someone sitting
in the computer for two hours and having one cup
of coffe.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, they're saying where this came from?
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Back in twenty eighteen, you had two black men that
were arrested in the Philadelphia Starbucks. They were having a
business meeting, they weren't paying for anything, and they were
arrested pretty horrifically if I remember.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And so then Starbucks is like, come one, come all.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, well that's cave.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Now they're going back to you've got to buy something
in order to sit here for hours and hours, and
maybe there's a limitation on that. What I love about
this story is that Starbucks. Starbucks has said employees are
going to receive training on enforcing the new policy. Okay,
training other than hey you get out. How much more
(26:42):
training do you need?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
No buy e, no pe bye e.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Oh I'm I gonna go there. I would get in
trouble if I went in that direction.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, moving on, Hell are you even talking about?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Never mind?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
DEI is aok with app l E. Apple's board of
directors has recommended shareholders vote against a conservative think tanks
proposal to consider scrapping Apple's DEI or diversity equity and
includes inclusion initiatives. The National Center for Public Policy Research
notified Apple in September that it intends to submit the
(27:21):
anti DEA DEI proposal at Apple's annual shareholder meeting February
twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, so they'll be a shareholder. You you can do
it with one share standing up and making this motion.
And Apple is saying we're the board said we're opposing that. Now,
let me ask you a question in terms of inclusion
and diversity. The fact that Tim Cook, who has been
the CEO of Apple since twenty eleven, the fact that
he is gay, and this would be considered a diversity
(27:53):
obviously part of it is anti gay. How much of
it do you think it is him being gay have
to do with Apple's official position. I'm questioning it. I
don't know the answer. By the way, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Why would that have to do with it?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Because it is this can be considered an anti gay statement.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
No more diversity, right, we want we want to eliminate
or decrease the diversity programs that Apple has. Well in
the decreasing diversity. Part of diversity is the LGBTQ community.
And I'm asking, is it because Tim Cook is gay
that has any influence my guests, not particularly.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Apple's been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The first diversity program was nineteen ninety three, way before Tim.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Cook took over. So it's just a point. I want
to make good point or bad point. I just want
to bring something else into the mix.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I think it's legitimate.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
All right, well, thank you. Don't accuse me of being
anti gay here. I won't take it.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
You who have actually passed laws to help the gay community,
that's true. Yeah, okay, all right. Uh, Supreme Court Justice
are pondering, of course, the future of TikTok in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
We've all heard that. Well, guess what.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
You can't keep kids from their social media. You got
a bunch of American social media users that have responded
by moving to another alternative alternative that is basically translated
to a little Red Book, but kids call it red note.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, it's actually I mean, the official name is uh
moo gooo guy app.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
No, no, it's not.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
A hugely popular social media app in China. It means
little Red Book. But like I said, the kids kind
of abbreviate it and call it red note.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What's the name of it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
It's Jaiu Hongzhu Xiao hung Shu shah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's a dish. You get a Panda Express.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
No, it actually means little Red book, unless you're eating
little red books.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Oh, I love Panda Express.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
So I had his Pan Express yesterday. I had it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It was very good. I had the bowl for the
first time at panted Express.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That explains your haircut.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Okay, uh, Look who got a facelift.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Walmart has given its logo its first facelift in nearly
twenty years. The company is sixty one years old, and
yesterday unveiled the refresh of its brand identity. And I've
got the the the logo side by side. They look
almost identical.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Tell me if you could tell the difference.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Well, one's got a fatter font.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I uh, that's about it.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
The same.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
It's the same, just a little tiny bit fatter.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, it's like going from aerial to aerial bold.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I was a graphic designer for a bazillion years, used
to make design corporate IDs and logos.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I don't know the difference. Yeah, it looked like it.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
It looks like a pre holiday, post holiday, just a
little chubbier.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I want to know how much the graphic design company
got paid for that.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Look at the news with that great story when NBC
came out with its new peacock and they spent a
quarter of a million dollars with a graphic design.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It turned out.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
That they hated They had to pay off a PBS
station in Nebraska someplace that had come up with that
years before, and they paid someone one hundred bucks for it.
And it was the NBC, the new NBC peacock. Remember
that story, Neil.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Oh, Yeah, they referred to it as the big cock block.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Uh yeah, well, okay, we're gonna talk about that later
on too.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I can't remember something.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
No, but it was hilarious. I mean the fortune they
spent on it to design that. It turned out it
was already designed for one hundred dollars someplace else. Also,
have you noticed and I like to look at various
branding things, Uh Kia when they switched to their logo,
I thought that was brilliant. By the way, the way
their their letters are, the way they spell Kia and
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the designs are.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Just all they got it. That's a beautiful logo.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It is.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
That's the point I'm making that they went to a
logo that's just brilliant. All right, guys, we're done with
all of that. KFI AM six forty live right here
on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
You've been listening to wake Up Call with me Amy King.
You can always hear wake Up Call five to six
am Monday through Friday on kf I AM six forty
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
You're listening to Wake Up Call on demand from KFI
AM six forty and now Handle on the news.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Ladies and gentlemen, here's Bill Handle.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Good morning, everybody, go handle here, morning crowd. It is
a Tuesday, January fourteen, as we look at.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
The fires hopefully yeah, we've got another fire weather.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Event.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Unfortunately it's happening today through tomorrow, so we'll be talking
a little bit about that and hopefully we'll be talking
about how it's not happening. So in the meantime, let
me say hello, Amy, good morning.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And Neil is back today. Good morning, Neil, Hey buddy,
and they're god good, good, good good. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Cono there you are. And and producer extraordinaire Hello Bill.
Hello Chris Berry. I don't know if you guys know
who is one of the senior senior people here at
iHeart who's with us for a while. And he came
into the studio just before we went on the air
(01:20):
and said, Bill, I'd like to take the Morning crew
to lunch or brunch after the show on Thursday to
thank you guys for the great work you're doing. And
I said, why would I want to have lunch with
these people. I see them every day. Now, don't do
that to me. So there's a very good chance.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That will be going without you.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're going to order something to
go and drop it off.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So you picked the place, Neil. Yeah, who the hell
wants to hang out with the handle?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So anyway, and this has been here like twenty four
to seven dealing with this with the news.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So and he runs. I'm trying to remember what he does.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Chris, You like you run all the kiosks in the
office buildings that iHeart is in, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And I counted the coffee. Yeah, I keep the coffee
yeah machine going.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I would like another cup please?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
You know what I'll do Next time Pittman comes into
the studio, which he does on occasion, I'm going to
ask him that question. Do you mind getting me a
cup of coffee?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Chris? You work with pittnamit send Berry over to get it.
He probably will. All right, hello to everybody.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We're gonna do some offshoots of the fire story, the fire,
of course, being by far the biggest story of well
in terms of fires in the last I don't know decade.
Here the worst fire in Southern California history. And we
don't have to go through talking about the big and
we're gonna have to go through talking about the complete
decimation of Southern California. I mean, we've gone through that,
(03:07):
So we're gonna do is at seven o'clock talk about
how one of the problems with the fire is insurance
is not expensive enough. And I know that sounds counterintuitive,
but I'm gonna tell you explain that to you. And
then someone from the National Weather Service is gonna explain
how this Santa Anna is very different from other Santa
(03:31):
Anna wins and I think we're gonna grab someone, and
I know you're grabbing someone, and but I want it
to be someone of the Jewish faith. Why is this
Santa Anna different than other Santa ANDAs that's a passover resference,
nobody's gonna get that. Yeah, I know, why is this
night different another night's? Okay, you're right, no one is.
(03:53):
That's a little obscure. And then there's an organization that
actually is flying pets out of Southern California to other shelters.
It's an airline that flies pets out to make room
for him it's a lot of stuff going on, and
then I know I'm giving you the highlight of the show,
but I'm going to lay out what we're going to have.
(04:14):
My friend Chuck Lovers, who is or was with La
County Fire for thirty something years. You know the story
about the incarcerated firefighters, the prisoners who are fighting the fires.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
There's some six.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Hundred of them or nine hundred of them out on
the fire line. He ran those crews for decades, that's
what he did. So we're going to get an inside
view of how that prison program works and the controversy.
And there are people that, oh my god, you can't
do that to prisoners, leave me alone. They don't make
enough money. They're prisoners. So that's what's going on. So
(04:54):
lots and lots of stuff. So in the meantime, let's
do it, guys. Let's start with handle on the news
on this twonesday morning with Amy Neil and me lead. Sorry, well,
we've got two days of winds again, life threatening winds,
gusts up to seventy eighty miles an hour coming in. Amy,
(05:15):
let me defer to you because you're covering this more
so than I am. Because you're in front of that
computer in the news, What are we looking at in
terms of wind speed and when.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
The strongest of the winds are expected between now and
tomorrow at noon. The highest danger for winds this time
have shifted a little bit. It's not for the Malibu area,
but it's in western Los Angeles County and Ventura County,
eastern Ventura County, So like the Santa Clarita area and
(05:45):
that I five and fourteen corridors, those are going to
be particularly hard hit by the winds expected to gust
fifty five to seventy miles per hour.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, it's to be tough, that is absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
If a fire starts and you have seventy mile an
hour winds, you're back to We're back to where we
were where the firefighters just have no chance, zero chance
of containing a fire like that once it ignites. And
so hopefully after this point. There was one fire that
came out that started, but the firefighters were able to
(06:19):
tackle that and bring it down, and that's the only chance.
Now firefighters have a chance. The only chance they have
to put out the fire is getting it very early.
And that's the policy change that has happened over the
last few years is the firefighting teams and I'm talking
about aircraft two small fires, they go out and attack
it instantly, and that's to be the change.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
And the good news is that unlike when the fire
started last week, there's about ten thousand firefighters hanging out
just waiting for those fires to start.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, And that is the question that I have, and
that is we didn't anticipate these fires. We didn't anticipate
the extent and the ferocity of these fires. And the
only answer is to have thousands of firefighters waiting in
the wings, hundreds of airplanes waiting in the wings. What
(07:11):
was in an interview yesterday with I think it was
on the national news I think it was ABC, where
the chief LA Fire Department was asked about how these
fires got out of control and how much equipment be needed,
and he said, in your normal fire, normal single single
(07:31):
home or business fire, right one building, they send out
three fire engines.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Typically in order to make this have.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Gone away, they would need twenty six thousand pieces of
firefighting equipment.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's how you control this fire. And it still wouldn't
have happened.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And he said, we still would have no chance to
do it because the fire was moving at such a
rapid rate.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You couldn't out run the fire. You couldn't go at speed.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And outrun this fire. It was going so quickly with
one hundred mile an hour winds. But to make a
good road, we need twenty six thousand pieces of equipment,
and we need thousands of firefighters waiting by the wings.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Okay, how reasonable is that. We're going to talk a.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Little bit more about one of the reasons we have
so many fires and how we're so fire prone. Is
I'm going to tell you later on, actually at seven
o'clock why insurance is not expensive enough. That's our downfall.
I know, I love this, I love this topic all right, making.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Fast work of a fire cruise rapidly got a handle
on it. Had another fire that broke out just last night.
It broke it started an Oxnard near the River Ridge
golf Course. Throughout eight o'clock there was an evacuation order listed,
but they said that no homes were in danger of
(08:52):
being destroyed. But the fire has been confined to a
river bet and it was stopped at about fifty six acres,
still not showing atainment, but they've stopped the forward progress
of it.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
All right, what a difference DA makes? Hey, Los Angeles,
see what I did there? Well, Angels County District Attorney
Nathan Hawkman, God bless him, announced a number of charges
against nine suspected looters and an alleged arsonist who isn't
tied to any of these fires. But this was just
(09:24):
over the past week as these wildfires raged throughout our
beloved city here. So the charges for the alleged looters
are mostly residential Burgley, including I guess one of them
walked away with an Emmy Award from one of the
residents who lived in Pacivic Palisades. Several of those rested
(09:46):
have previous felony convictions.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh my, I'm so suprised.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Hey, then Emmy's worth one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Is it really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Oh wait, no, it's not.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
It costs a few h undred dollars to make, but
if it were made of solid gold, it would be
worth one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Fifty that's yeah, But some of them are.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
When you look at some of the Academy awards that
have been sold, they've gone for millions of dollars for
iconic films, iconic scripts, they have literally gone for a
zillion dollars.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
That's what I was going to say, that it's continued
upon what it was and where. But they're illegal to reproduce.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So oh yeah, I'm sure they're copyrighted.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
By the way, his defense is going to be best
performance for someone impersonating a burglar.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
On television. Okay, So yeah, it was covered on TV,
you know. Okay.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Governor Newsom wants to jump start recovery efforts for the
wildfires with two and a half billion dollars. He expanded
his legislative session agenda that is focused on Trump proofing
California to include the response and recovery funding for the fires.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yesterday, who was it that said yes to amy one
of the new Trump folks coming in saying that we
will go ahead and give federal money. Adam Schiff was
being interviewed and he said that the Trump administration said
they will give federal money to California if certain conditions
are met. And he said, there's never been another time
(11:22):
where Fed's have said, sure, we'll give disaster relief, but
here are the conditions that we want for disaster relief. So,
I mean, the war has already been declared between California
and Trump.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I mean, that's going to be a four year battle.
We know that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And usually the vast amount of money that comes in
for these kinds of disasters is federal money.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So there, yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Homeowners and renters who lost their homes in the EAT
and fire are now suing Southern California.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Edison saw this coming, So you had at.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
Least five lawsuits were filed just yesterday alleging that the
company failed to de energize all of its electrical equipment
despite red flag warnings issued by the National Weather Service.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
So well, see that video that was taken early early
on in the Palisades fire, just when it started, and
a couple of homeowners took a video where it looks
like a fire was starting at the base of a
transmission tower. Yeah, and we don't know yet if the
fire had gone there or started there, and whether it
(12:35):
did have anything to do with the power grid. But
already the lawsuits have been filed even before we know,
even before the investigation.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is even begun. So we'll see if PG and E
gets nailed for this.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Or no.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Southern California Edison, I think that was the utility, which
was not touched by the PG and E settlement. You know,
PG and E ended up paying billions of dollars and
was convicted. The corporation was convicted of criminal activity because
his power lines went down and sparked what was the
(13:12):
last big fire? Whatever it was sparked that maybe it
was the was it the campfire that it sparked?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
A very lucky man's luck has run out. The guy
who won the largest ever powerball jackpot is Edwin Castro.
He won the two billion dollar jackpot in twenty twenty
three and promptly used some of his money to buy homes.
He bought a home in Malibu, won an Altadena, and
another one in the Hollywood Hills. Two of those homes
were in evacuation zones. The third in Palisades burned to
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the ground.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I want to point something out as I read this story,
and that is it's so.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Surprised that he would buy three homes.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Kind of interesting that one in Palisades, what an Altadena,
and then a third in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Or fires started, Yeah, there was the fire in the
Hollywood Hills last week.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, that's right. He must have burned the place down right.
But I want you to notice, usually when someone buys
a home. Remember one of the Powerball winners bought a
home in Malibu for thirty twenty three or twenty five
million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Look at the cost of these homes.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
One is three point eight million dollars, another one is
what two points something million dollars. Considering someone won a
billion dollars, these are very modest homes.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It just occurred to me.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
If I want a billion dollars, I wouldn't be built.
I would buy a four million dollar home. I'd buy
a forty million dollar home, which is what everybody does.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He has a twenty five point five million dollar mansion.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Well, yeah, that's besides the point. That's the one he
lives in. So maybe these were rentals.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Those were for his help.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Could be, but I just noticed that he I brought
fairly modest homes, so he's living under his means with
a twenty five million dollar home.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Tom Hanks lost his house, didn't he do? I have
that right.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I'm not sure if he lost it or if it
was in the fire.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Was noted that twenty six million dollar home, so he
gets paid more than scale.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I assume for his pictures.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
He does, okay, all right.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Vladimir Zelenski said that he may send Ukrainian firefighters if needed,
to help battle the blazes going on here in California.
This was after Donald Trump Junior dragged the LA of
Los Angeles County Fire Department for donating some supplies to
Ukraine's defense.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So just on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
During the war, Yeah, when the war in Ukraine broke out,
they had obviously firefighters there to put out the fires
because artillery drones were hitting parts of Ukraine, and fire
department donated hoses, nozzles, turnouts, helmets, body armor, personal protective
equipment to help Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
And they're getting nailed for it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Gee, if they'd been here, if that equipment had been here,
the fires would have either been stopped or certainly would
have done as much damage.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I mean, complete crap all. We're hearing a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
If Karen Vass had been on site, the fires wouldn't
be as bad.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You think everything's been done right with these.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Fires, No, but what I think is happening. If everything
had been done right, it wouldn't have helped.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's all. These fires were so extraordinary, were.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
So so vicious, so all encompassing, it did not matter.
So you have one more reservoir, right that should have
been full. It would have done nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You're high that many gallons.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
That is.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
There was no water pressure up at the top of
some of these hills.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's what caused that.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
You there was two people on the planet to think
that nothing could be done.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Nothing could be done.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And by the way, you're right, there's only three of us,
one being the chief of the LA Fire Department.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
No, that's not what was said.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
You also have the chief saying that money would have
helped that other resources.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Really pull out, Yeah, pull that out.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I'd love to see that because from what I understand, Neil,
it's nothing would have helped this fire.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What we should do now, we can't fight them.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
They did let those homes burn because they couldn't stop them.
They sat and watched those homes burn. They couldn't stop it.
They couldn't now run the fire before.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
There's so much that could have been done differently, like
what and the firefighters doing an amazing john like what Neil.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Resources one.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
We didn't even have uh, we didn't even have traffic
cops showing where people were to go during the.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Time, Bring traffic everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
The traffic cops would have been part of the group
that was just getting the hell out of Dodge as
quickly as possible.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
No one could stay in those areas.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Area for decades, and I have seen them controlled traffic
for the Not in.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
A fire like this, Neil, Not in this kind of fire.
I'm telling you, Neil, for everything I have read and
heard and saw, this fire was so intense, moving at
such a rapid pace.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
These were one.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Hundred mile an hour wins Neil, How do you stop it?
The fire chief said, Based on what I said earlier,
three fire units per house fire is typically what happens.
We would have needed twenty six thousand of these fire units.
And even then, the fire moves too quickly that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
At its peak blaze.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
That's assuming that it would have gotten to its peak blaze.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It was untenable. It was you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Had had we had you're right, had we had twenty thousand,
had we had twenty thousand pieces of equipment at exactly
those places where we needed, we probably could have stopped it.
Had we had several hundred more airplanes. Oh no, you
couldn't have airplanes because the winds were too high. Well,
had we invented airplanes that could fly in one hundred
(19:20):
mile an hour wins, that would have helped Neil, You're
out of your mind. Communail, you're out of your mind.
Go back to your facility.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Nothing short of criminal.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Jack Smith's report on his investigation into President elect Trump
and his efforts to overturn the twenty twenty election has
been released. Smith's team states, in no uncertain terms they
believed Trump criminally attempted to subvert the will of the
people and overturn election results. And I believe Jack Smith
(19:48):
said he thinks he would have got a conviction.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Oh yeah, he cited a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Pressure on state officials, We know that who he called,
We have that, we have that phone call, the fraudigal
elect plan, the pressure on Vice President Mike Spence not
to certify the riot on January sixth, and Jack Smiths
said that this is all criminal, which a lot of
us thought it was, and trying to subvert the election.
(20:15):
What I don't understand is why President Trump try to
stop this from being released so much because it proves to.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Him and his followers that all this was a witch hunt.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You think he would just wear it as a badge
of honor instead of fighting fighting, fighting fighting to release
the report, so it was released a week before he
takes office.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Weird times. Let's hope this goes through.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
Hamas is expected to release thirty three hostages during the
first phase of an emerging ceasefire agreement to be finalized
by negotiators there in Doha. To Israeli officials are the
ones backing this the statement first positive sign we've seen
in a long time, months and months that a truce
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between Israel and themas war may be in sight.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I have a question about this because Donald Trump has
said if a deal is not cut before I take office,
all hell is going to break loose in the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
How much of that.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Influenced Hamas and Israel because we know that happened before
with Ronald Reagan and the return of the American hostages
before Ronald Reagan took office at the end of the
Carter administration, and Ronald Reagan was rightly given credit for
speeding the process up because the Iranians were frightened of
(21:45):
what was happening or what would happen if the hostages
weren't returned, I wonder if Hamas was at all influenced
by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I think yes, I think he would have something to
do with it. If Trump.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I mean, there were working, working, working, and they were
getting closer and closer. But I don't think this would
have wrapped up this week. But for Donald Trump being
sworn in.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
I think you're probably right. He's an interesting variable that
they are afraid of.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I mean, it's and he is so pro ISRAELI I mean,
the guy makes no bones about it. There is no
there's no middle ground, none of that. He is pro Israel,
and Hamas knows that. Although I don't know how much
more hell could break out in the Middle East, that's happening.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Now nothing short of criminal again. Special Counsel David Weiss
slammed President Biden's characterization of his investigation. I remember Biden
called Weiss's investigation into Hunter Biden raw politics when he
(22:55):
pardoned his son. Weiss's prosecutors say they examined Hunter biden
years of drug and alcohol abuse, is controversial, foreign business dealings,
and procurement of a gun in twenty eighteen. Said his
work was thorough, impartial, and nonpartisan. And said other presidents
have pardon family members, but in doing so, none have
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taken the occasion as an opportunity to malign the public
servants at the Department of Justice based on solely false
ap Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Thank you. Especially effectively.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
What Biden is saying is it was part of his
view of the deep state that it was politics that
did it, and Why said no, no, this is what
we do. This is looking at it objectively. We do
not politicize investigations. So you've got President Biden joining the
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fray of attacking the law enforcement agencies.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And investigative agencies.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
In the United States, you know when it seems to
go against you, And obviously Biden is guilty of this too.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's a political witch hunt.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
That's what he said, basically, is the attack the case
against his son was effectively a political witch hunt. Without
using those words, welcome to the modern era of politics.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
Oh and all the Democrats that are upset about the
stolen the stolen election.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That is going on and that Trump won.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Go figure, I haven't heard that very.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Much social media, my friend.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well media is kind of crazy, but I the stolen election,
by the way, was the majority of Republicans in this country,
seventy five percent of registered Republicans said the election was stolen.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
When Biden was sworn in.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
You're not going to see seventy five percent of Democrats
out there saying the estelle the election was stolen. I
believe that Republicans are crazy when they thought the election
was stolen. I think the Democrats who say this election
was stolen are just as nuts. Hey, Bob, Hi, why
don't we just count the votes to see who ends that?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Whatever happened to that?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Is that no longer part of our election cycle.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
I don't believe in RS and d's. I believe people
are just crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Oh that's a good point.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Well, the days of hanging out or using the restroom
at Starbucks have gone the way of the Dodo bird
unless you buy something. They folks at Starbucks said yesterday
that they're reversing a policy that invited everyone into its
stores a new code of conduct.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Who would have thought that'd.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Go bonkers wrong here in southern California, but it did.
They will be posted in all company owned North American
stores banning you know, bans discrimination or harashment, harassment of people,
consumption ab outside alcohol.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Well, yeah, that's I mean that's typical. But you have
gone into Starbucks. I have occasionally, and they's someone sitting
in the computer for two hours and having one cup
of coffe.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, they're saying where this came from?
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Back in twenty eighteen, you had two black men that
were arrested in the Philadelphia Starbucks. They were having a
business meeting, they weren't paying for anything, and they were
arrested pretty horrifically if I remember.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And so then Starbucks is like, come one, come all.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, well that's cave.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Now they're going back to you've got to buy something
in order to sit here for hours and hours, and
maybe there's a limitation on that. What I love about
this story is that Starbucks. Starbucks has said employees are
going to receive training on enforcing the new policy. Okay,
training other than hey you get out. How much more
(26:42):
training do you need?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
No buy e, no pe bye e.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Oh I'm I gonna go there. I would get in
trouble if I went in that direction.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, moving on, Hell are you even talking about?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Never mind?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
DEI is aok with app l E. Apple's board of
directors has recommended shareholders vote against a conservative think tanks
proposal to consider scrapping Apple's DEI or diversity equity and
includes inclusion initiatives. The National Center for Public Policy Research
notified Apple in September that it intends to submit the
(27:21):
anti DEA DEI proposal at Apple's annual shareholder meeting February
twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, so they'll be a shareholder. You you can do
it with one share standing up and making this motion.
And Apple is saying we're the board said we're opposing that. Now,
let me ask you a question in terms of inclusion
and diversity. The fact that Tim Cook, who has been
the CEO of Apple since twenty eleven, the fact that
he is gay, and this would be considered a diversity
(27:53):
obviously part of it is anti gay. How much of
it do you think it is him being gay have
to do with Apple's official position. I'm questioning it. I
don't know the answer. By the way, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Why would that have to do with it?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Because it is this can be considered an anti gay statement.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
No more diversity, right, we want we want to eliminate
or decrease the diversity programs that Apple has. Well in
the decreasing diversity. Part of diversity is the LGBTQ community.
And I'm asking, is it because Tim Cook is gay
that has any influence my guests, not particularly.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Apple's been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The first diversity program was nineteen ninety three, way before Tim.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Cook took over. So it's just a point. I want
to make good point or bad point. I just want
to bring something else into the mix.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I think it's legitimate.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
All right, well, thank you. Don't accuse me of being
anti gay here. I won't take it.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
You who have actually passed laws to help the gay community,
that's true. Yeah, okay, all right. Uh, Supreme Court Justice
are pondering, of course, the future of TikTok in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
We've all heard that. Well, guess what.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
You can't keep kids from their social media. You got
a bunch of American social media users that have responded
by moving to another alternative alternative that is basically translated
to a little Red Book, but kids call it red note.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, it's actually I mean, the official name is uh
moo gooo guy app.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
No, no, it's not.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
A hugely popular social media app in China. It means
little Red Book. But like I said, the kids kind
of abbreviate it and call it red note.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What's the name of it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
It's Jaiu Hongzhu Xiao hung Shu shah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's a dish. You get a Panda Express.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
No, it actually means little Red book, unless you're eating
little red books.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Oh, I love Panda Express.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
So I had his Pan Express yesterday. I had it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It was very good. I had the bowl for the
first time at panted Express.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
That explains your haircut.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Okay, uh, Look who got a facelift.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Walmart has given its logo its first facelift in nearly
twenty years. The company is sixty one years old, and
yesterday unveiled the refresh of its brand identity. And I've
got the the the logo side by side. They look
almost identical.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Tell me if you could tell the difference.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Well, one's got a fatter font.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I uh, that's about it.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
The same.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
It's the same, just a little tiny bit fatter.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, it's like going from aerial to aerial bold.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I was a graphic designer for a bazillion years, used
to make design corporate IDs and logos.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I don't know the difference. Yeah, it looked like it.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
It looks like a pre holiday, post holiday, just a
little chubbier.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I want to know how much the graphic design company
got paid for that.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Look at the news with that great story when NBC
came out with its new peacock and they spent a
quarter of a million dollars with a graphic design.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It turned out.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
That they hated They had to pay off a PBS
station in Nebraska someplace that had come up with that
years before, and they paid someone one hundred bucks for it.
And it was the NBC, the new NBC peacock. Remember
that story, Neil.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Oh, Yeah, they referred to it as the big cock block.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Uh yeah, well, okay, we're gonna talk about that later
on too.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I can't remember something.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
No, but it was hilarious. I mean the fortune they
spent on it to design that. It turned out it
was already designed for one hundred dollars someplace else. Also,
have you noticed and I like to look at various
branding things, Uh Kia when they switched to their logo,
I thought that was brilliant. By the way, the way
their their letters are, the way they spell Kia and
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the designs are.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Just all they got it. That's a beautiful logo.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It is.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
That's the point I'm making that they went to a
logo that's just brilliant. All right, guys, we're done with
all of that. KFI AM six forty live right here
on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
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