March 24, 2025 • 26 mins
(March 25, 2025)
Chris Merrill fills in for Bill this week. The parents of the one person in Texas who has died during the current measles outbreak are standing by their decision not to vaccinate their late daughter or her four siblings. In an interview posted on the website of the Children’s Health Defense, the un-named mother and father insisted that measles is “good for the body” by reinforcing its defenses. President Donald Trump kicked off the process of dismantling the Department of Education by signing an executive order on Thursday. Under the proposal, initiated by council President Marqueece Harris-Dawson, audience members could be removed from meetings — or banned from attending future ones — for repeatedly uttering the racial slur known as the N-word or the sexist vulgarity known as the C-word. Buy-now-pay-later loans are often used to spread out interest-free payments for expensive purchases such as smartphones, furniture or appliances. Now hungry consumers can add another option to that list: food.
Chris Merrill fills in for Bill this week. The parents of the one person in Texas who has died during the current measles outbreak are standing by their decision not to vaccinate their late daughter or her four siblings. In an interview posted on the website of the Children’s Health Defense, the un-named mother and father insisted that measles is “good for the body” by reinforcing its defenses. President Donald Trump kicked off the process of dismantling the Department of Education by signing an executive order on Thursday. Under the proposal, initiated by council President Marqueece Harris-Dawson, audience members could be removed from meetings — or banned from attending future ones — for repeatedly uttering the racial slur known as the N-word or the sexist vulgarity known as the C-word. Buy-now-pay-later loans are often used to spread out interest-free payments for expensive purchases such as smartphones, furniture or appliances. Now hungry consumers can add another option to that list: food.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty. It's KFIM six forty. Imagine that you had
the unthinkable happen and you lose a child. That did
happen to a couple in Texas. They did not get
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their kids vaccinated. Their their kids got measles. And you've
probably heard that measles has claimed the life of one person.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It was their kid. They live in a Mennonite.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Community and they speak the Mennonite German, which is a
kind of a it's Germanish. Anyway, this is what they
were saying through a translator. Let me see if this
audio comes.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Through well and underhand.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
They think that it's not as bad as the media
is making it out to be. And it was her
time on earth. They believe that she's better off where
she is now versus all the NEGA activity and all
the stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Was that loud enough, CONO, I know, it was kind
of quiet there. It was good enough, all right? Thanks,
So they say, well it was time. That would be
tough for me to reconcile. Joining us right now is
our ABC News corresponded to in Texas. Jim Ryan, Jim
Good talk to you again there, my friend, what a
bizarre and sad story this is when.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, you lose you lose.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
A child, then we run into this ethical and moral
quandary between parenting and religion.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, well, you're right. There are Mennonites. This is a
deeply religious community out there in West Texas Gaines County.
Parents who came originally from Germany, I assume, or from
that part of Europe. And yes, this is a part
of their culture.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
The leadership in the Mennonite church out there, he says
that the main pastor there says that he doesn't preach
against getting your kids vaccinated or for getting your kids vaccinated.
He says he leaves it to the parents. But it
seems to be, at least based on what these parents
have said, the parents of the child who died, that
they leave God's hands. That there are other ways of
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treating or preventing measles, cod lit roil, vitamins, supplements, name.
Traditional health community out there in West Texas and elsewhere
says that just doesn't work. Vaccination is the best way
to protect your kids.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, there seem to be a lot of these old
wives tales type remedies, right, These home remedies and nothing
seems to back that up. Are they getting any support
that you know of, Jim? Are they getting other people
that are rallying behind them and saying that's right, don't
get your kids vaccinated even if you lose one, because
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they still have other kids, right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
For other kids, And all of them had measles. They
were treated by a doctor out there who is kind
of gaining a name in West Texas for his defiance
against the call to vaccinate children. They also have the
backing of something called the Children's Health Defense, which they
posted the interview conducted and then posted the interview with
the parents on their website. On its website, this group
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CHD Children's Health Defense was founded in two thousand and
seven by Robert F. Kennedy Junior. It's somehow, it's a
nonprofit organization and was founded long before the pandemic, long
before this. Certain this measle outbreak, certainly, but this is
Robert F. Kennedy's group, and it's the one who has
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these parents out and front doesn't identify them by name,
but does do this interview with the parents of the
child who died.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So this is interesting because RFK Junior sat in front
of the Senate confirmation hearing and said that he was
not going to discourage vaccinations.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right, but here his whole.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Books, right, Well, that's true. He personally isn't isn't discouraging vaccination.
In fact, you know he's he's now saying that it's
a good idea to get your kids vaccinated. But that's
not a complete endorsement. It's not urging parents please go
get your kids vaccinated. It's not that at all. I'd
have hedged a little bit here in the last couple
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of weeks. This I thought was fascinating.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Chris.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So, these Children's Health Defense on its website posted a
page which mimicked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
the CDC. This page looked, you know, the same font,
same logo, same everything, except that it talks on this
page about vaccines and a connection to autism, which is
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something that Kennedy has talked about for a long time.
So this page was posted there and Robert F. Kennedy
Junior saw it and called the Children's Health Defense and said, hey,
you got to take that down. So maybe his position
is changing somewhat now that he's held in human Service
as secretary who knows. But even that was too much
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for Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But am I mistaken Jim? It seems that Jim Ryaner
ABCNIWS correspondent, didn't. I see that the CDC is now
going to be investigating whether or not there's any link
between vaccines and autism.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It is research which has been done since the nineteen
nineties has shown that there is no link between this.
But we're talking about a Health and Human Services secretary
who's kind of directing that show others changes in staffing
at CDC, and so they will spend some other time
and some of your money, Chris, to determine whether there's
any link between autism and vaccination. In the past, there's
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been no link established at all.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All Right, Jim, let's go back to this couple in
West Texas that lost the young one and say that
they still wouldn't get their kids vaccinated and that, as
you said, they believed it was their child's time to go.
That I guess basically God called this kid home. Is
there a response by others in the community, because I
know there are pockets in Texas, especially in West Texas,
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with very very low vaccination rates. In fact, I was
just reading an article last week about one school was
bragging about having the lowest vaccination rate in the state.
Only fourteen percent of their students were vaccinated, which to
me seems like a really strange brag, not the flex
they think it is, but they're doing it. Are we
seeing some other parents that are that are heating the
warning and going, Okay, you know, in principle I was
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all for this before, but maybe now that now that
it's here, I bought it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I better get my kid vaccinated.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah. So, despite you know what's being said in the
in the Mennonine community, out there other places, Yes, the
health department in Lubbock, for example, out out in West
Texas and other state health departments have set up vaccination clinics.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They offer them free.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
They park a VANA or RV outside the hospital and
they say come on. And yes, they've had lines of
people who were bringing their kids in and saying, you
know what, I better get this kid vaccinated because people
are getting sick, people are dying. So yes, you are
seeing that people are getting their kids vaccinated, such that
distribution was getting a little tight for the vaccine out
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there to West Texas. That's kind of a good thing.
The Health Department wants to see that at the same
time seeing shortages essentially of things like codd live oil
supplements in some of the drug stores out there.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, and uh, what's that? What's that crackpot Jones? That's
he's selling supplements at his website right.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Uh are a radio guy there, the sandy.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Hook Alex Jones, Alex Alex Jones.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
He's got a supplements. I'm sure he's got something that's
gonna cure everything for everyone. It sounds like something my
sister in law will get into. She just loves to push,
you know, healing crystals and and uh, the essential oils
sounds perfect.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Well, I mean the people put a lot of faith
in that stuff. And uh, and there is this deep suspicion.
I think, more than anything else, Chris, it tells us
how deeply divided on principle the country is, you know,
on science and on things that we used to take
for granted. You know, I've got everybody got the MLMR
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shot before they went off to school. But now you
have this this suspicion about that. And I don't know
if it's gonna get better or gonna get worse.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It is so strange to me though, Jim, because once
we all say I don't trust him, I don't trust him,
I don't trust him. But then of course once it's
in the community and we have a child who loses
their lives, then people are lining up to get their
kids vaccinated. So how deeply do their principles really run?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right? Of course that's what we're yeah, that's what we're
watching from from a farm, all right. Jim. Always great
talking to you, my friend. Thank you so much. Jim
Ryan Aby, Seniors correspondent who is in Texas. They're great
talking with Jim. If you missed it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Last week, President Trump signed an order saying get rid
of the Department of Education, which is kind of tough
to do because it's not a presidential department, but it
is under the executive branch, which means he can just
about decimate it anytime he wants.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
President Trump signing yet another executive order today, this one
directing is Education Secretary to dismantle the Department of Education.
We're going to be returning education very simply back to
the States where it belongs to the administration, arguing US
schools are failing, but the Department of Education does not
administer a curriculum, create lessons, or set requirements for enrollment
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and graduation.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So what do they do if the Department of Education
doesn't oversee education?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What are they?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Critics arguing this move will gut public education funding and
hurt millions of low income students and those with disabilities.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh, follow the money.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
What we find is when we give block grants to
states a lot of times, that hurts students in need
that help. That hurts brown and black children, and that
gives states opportunity to leave students out.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
But the White House saying the department will not totally
shut down, but.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
When it comes to student loan and pelgrants, those will
still be run out of the Department of Education. But
we don't need to be spending more than three trillion
dollars over the course of a few decades on a
department that's clearly failing in its initial intention to educate
our students.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
All right, so three trillion dollars over decades.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You notice how they kind of cut They go, we
don't need to be spending three trillion dollars over decades.
Here these numbers thrown around. For instance, they talk about
the budget and the you know, the Republicans passing the
continuing Resolution and they want to extend the tax cuts,
and they say, well, the tax cuts are going to
cost four point five trillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And then they.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Want to cut more and they want to cut another
two trillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's not that's not per year.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So I think I always think that we tend to
throw a bunch of numbers around, but we don't really
give those numbers context. It is tough enough to fathom
what a trillion dollars is anyway, it's even harder to
fathom when we don't give it any sort of context.
We say, this's trillions of dollars over ten years, or
in this case, three trillion dollars since its inception back
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in the seventies.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Right, listen, but we don't need to be spending more
than three trillion dollars over the course of a few decades.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
On three trillion dollars over the course of a few decades,
it's been like forty five years. I'm not saying that
it's a good use of money, but context, context, Come on.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Official saying a smaller agency will help carry out some
of the critical functions that the department focuses on like
enforcing laws against discrimination and providing funding for low income
students and special education. I don't believe that those funds
will still be there if this department is closed. Head
of the American Federation of Teachers, Randy Weingarten saying on
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social media, mister President, we will see you in court.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, of course. We're a group of.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Democratic senators has written a letter to Education Secretary Linda
McMahon urging her to reinstate those former employees, warning if not,
student loan borrowers will suffer dire consequences. We know Roy,
ABC News, New York.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, it's something like forty of the student loans that
are out there are past due. And a lot of
this has to do with the confusion from the last
administration with the on again, off again student loan forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So who's it going to affect?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Low income rural schools and students with disabilities mostly going
to be affected. Your student loans are now going to
have to be paid back to the small Business the
administration and mos Set Association Small Business Administration. That's who's
going to take over that. As far as what your
kids are learning, and we talk about schools aren't educating
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well enough. Our education level is dropping. The United States
has falling behind. Department of Education doesn't see anything that
has to do with curriculum that's still set at state levels.
But we are likely to see a bunch of cuts
to the workforce at the Department of Education. I think
they're getting doged. You're going to get doged right out
of here. You're going to have the workforce cut it
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right off. By the way, they said that, well, they
want to make sure they protect that Office for Civil Rights. Actually,
that's one of the officers that they say is going
to be hit the hardest. So the ones that make
sure that schools are not violating kids, the civil rights,
protecting against things like anti semitism, that office is being thrashed.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So imagine you are very upset with your elected leaders.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
We've been there, right, You've probably seen something they've done,
you thought, what.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
A turd.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You've probably called them names worse than that. But do
you call them names worse than that in public to
their faces and on the record, Well, evidently some people do.
And what are the words we like to use, while
it's the words that we know are going to upset
the most people. It gives us power when we use
words that other people really don't like. If you use
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the N word, boy, are you really showing people the
kind of power you have over other people's emotions. You're
also typically showing you don't have a lot of intellect.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But I digress.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So people are showing up now at the La City
Council meetings or at the Board of Supervisor meetings or
other places, and they've decided they're going to use those
words that make them feel very very strong. If if
they're addressing someone who is black, they like to use
the N word, if they're addressing someone who is a woman,
they like to use the C word, because these are
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considered the most offensive of all the words. So the
La City Council says enough is enough. KTLA was reporting
on this one this week.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
LA City Council President Marquise Harris Dawson announced plans to
crack down on bile slurs during public comment at council meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
West Side Current reporter John mcgardi spoke that or broke
that story actually today regard he spoke with our own
central Mitchell take a look.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Okay, John, thank you so much for being here, Yes,
thank you sick.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (15:07):
For anybody who's been at an LA City Council meeting,
you know that things can get disrupted very quickly. So
you've had some conversations with the council president, Harris Dawson.
Why does he think it's important to make this change
and why now?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, the change, by the way, would.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Ban people from attending meetings or get them kicked out
of meetings for repeatedly using the racial slur known as
the N word or the sexist vulgarity.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Known as the sea word.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's the way the La Times reports it, so thank
goodness they clarified that the N word was a racial
slur or that the sea word was a sexist vulgarity.
I appreciate that, well, Marquise.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Harris Dawson is really trying to make a more habitable,
more civic environment. As you reference, Yes, it can be
pretty dodgy in there. We frequently hear two of the
most vile words that you could come up with, along
with fbom some other language. So what he's going to
try to do is really introduce this motion that will
restrict the use of this language. Essentially, the council president
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would have the authority. If these words were uttered to
warrant someone once, if they try it a second time,
their time would be terminated. They would not be allowed
to speak anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
M Yeah, the government would stop someone from speaking. No,
I feel like that probably is going to go over well.
I mean, listen, if we lived in a country where
we wanted people to speak freely, we probably would have
made that a part of our constitution. But as we
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all know, the government can limit our speech anytime they want.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
All right, we hear so much about free speech. But
for somebody who has not been at an LA City
Council meeting not experience this, not seeing the video of
what goes on, how would you describe that scene and
how has it been changing over the past few years.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, Sandra, it's really disconcerting. I went back and watched
some of the tape in preparation for this story for
the West Side Current. You do not feel good about
the city of Los Angeles when you see this happening
in the center of our government, which should be our
civic structure. There are repeated curse words. There are again
via words directed at African American council members, at female
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council members, you hear terms directed at people of Jewish
or Latino descent, many expletives will fly.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
It is the type of place that was sent to
me by many people that you know, a teacher would
not want to bring their class of young students down
to observe democracy because of what they would hear.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So the idea here is then, well, then the government
should limit the speech. There's a lot of speech that
we don't like, and so the government needs to limit
that speech so that we don't offend children's ears. I
am not going to support anything that the people are
saying that are dropping these words.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The story to me is, we have a lot of
a holes that are going to I use the A word.
We have a lot of a holes that are going
to these city council meetings so that they can tell
everybody how big of an a hole they are. If
you have to resort to this sort of name calling
and you want to use these words that make you
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feel big and powerful, it tells me one, you're an
a hole. Two you probably have very small male genitalia.
But that said, we do have freedom of speech, and
hate speech is protected, and these words are considered hate speech.
And if you're going to start limiting these things, then
we find ourselves in this weird slippery slope where we say, well,
we banned the N word because nobody likes that, and
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we all agreed it was bad. We ban the C
word because nobody likes that, and we all agreed it
was bad.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And then what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Then somebody starts using anti Semitic terms. We go, well,
we got to ban that word too, or these words. Well,
somebody said that I was acting like Hitler, so now
I have to start banning.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You can't say Hitler.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And then they started using F bombs, Well, we can't
say f bombs. So you run into this really concerning
potential for a slippery slope that said, stop.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Being an a hole.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I always find it amazing that people are willing to
be so bold. I mean, they say the things that
that you just don't think are being said anymore, Like
this is not the nineteen sixties, but people still I'm
going to say it because I can. You can, you can,
and I'll protect your right to say you can. But
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certainly never going to be caught in public talking to you.
I'll tell you that right now, first, imagine you open
your wallet, it is empty. You don't get paid till Friday,
but you are hungry right now. Boy, you really want
a pizza or a delicious burrito or tackle Bell whatever
it is. You just don't have the money, and lord
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knows you're not going to eat whatever that can of
mystery food is in the pantry.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So what do you do? Well, it's really easy. You
take out a loan.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
By now pay later service. Klarna is partnering with DoorDash
to allow you to defer payments for delivery services. The
aim is to give consumers more flexibility when it comes
to their spending power. Finance experts say this could be
bad news for the economy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Ye real bad news.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
His Nation's Alicia and Yeavis has been following the story
at Lasia. So many questions. First, breakdown, how this will work?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Break it down?
Speaker 11 (20:37):
Interesting? And we know that you know a few companies
are doing this. It's coming kind of in the headlines
because Klarna just this week announced that partnership with DoorDash.
And basically what's happening here is listen. If you want
to buy lunch today and if your bank accounts running
a little bit low, you can buy that lunch today
on door dash, and then you'll split the payments for
that maybe over the next couple of weeks or months.
They haven't really outlined exactly, you know, the payment arrangement.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Because I'm going to take out a loan and split
my payments up for a burrito.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, I'm assuming that most people using this are not
going to be people ordering a burrito or a sushi
role it's probably dinner for the whole family.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Still because it hasn't launched yet. But I look at
another company that's doing this called zip. That company you
could actually buy, you know, a big batch of groceries
we call it Combra in Spanish at costcos or shopwrite
and then make eight payments over eight months for that
batch of groceries.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Eight months to pay for this month's grocery. It's all, well,
I don't see this not ending well at all.
Speaker 11 (21:40):
Now, I say this is interesting because typically with buy now,
pay later, it's usually for a one time major purchase
like a furniture set or a computer, and that's a
one time debt accumulation. Food and groceries that's a daily,
sometimes weekly potential accumulation.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
So is this going to hurt consumers.
Speaker 11 (21:57):
Yes, on one hand, this is better than putting, you know,
your groceries on your credit card if you can't afford
those groceries. Right, Because credit cards charge anywhere from like
seventeen percent to upwards a thirty percent interest on these
payment services, the consumer doesn't get hit with any interest, right.
The merchant actually pays a fee for that. As the
saying of business that I love, it's you know, there's
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no such thing as a free lunch. Someone's paying for
that lunch, and because they're getting a benefit, the merchant
is willing to pay that. Because on average, people who
use buy now, Pay Later spend thirty to fifty percent
more than they would have if they had that money
on hand that much thirty to thirty to fifty percent more.
And those who wouldn't have been able to make a
purse at all, they're able, you know, to make that
purchase now. So that is concerning when you think that
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if you don't have that money on hand, you're spending
even more than you have. Some are calling this predatory lending.
We've seen the CFPV, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau investigate
these companies in the past. They've warned for more oversight.
But under the current administration, under Doge, and we've talked
about that a lot. Yeah, that organization has been gutted.
So you're having this increase and buy now, pay later
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with less oversight.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, so we all right, So we've.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Got companies that are saying you can borrow to pay
for your kid's dinner. It'll take you just eight months
to pay it off, but don't worry. It's better than
using your credit card. Oh and while you're getting your dinner,
don't you think that you ought to have extra dessert?
And don't you think those kids they want the chicky nuggets,
but they also you know, they want that extra toy
on the side, and they're gonna want dessert as well.
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And so you spend fifty percent more and we don't
have everybody watching this. There's no oversight. We've cut the oversight.
Now who benefits you know who benefits? Door Dash is
benefiting as they normally do, but Clarin is making the money,
which means that you're taking people who don't have money
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and you are getting them into a payment plan to
give money that they don't have to somebody else who
has money. This is the cycle this is why he
says it's Some are calling it predatory lending.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Friends, I'll tell you what this is. It is.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It is a reflection on how bad our education system
instructs young people on money. And as someone who got
into some really bad credit card debt, really bad. In fact,
Ann and I were talking before the show that things
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a few years back. I was in a lot of
debt and then I lost my gig and my wife
was making okay money, but things got real tight. We
had two car payments, we had a mortgage payment, and
we had this credit card debt that was mounting, and
so we said forget it. We sold off a bunch
of stuff and we went and lived quite literally in
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a van down by the river for two years in
order to pay off all of our debt. And we
buckled down and we paid it off. And it was
a lesson that I never want to have to repeat again.
And if there's anything I can offer you, it's a
warning don't put yourself in that position. And by God,
if you are taking out short term loans effectively lay
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away on a burrito, you are putting yourself in a
bad spot. And we are so bad in this country
about making decisions, impulse decisions that are going, we're gonna
pay for him later, and we always go, well, yeah,
but that's later.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah. But here's what I learned is I got old
and I hate man. I got old.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And remember when you got old and he started realizing
that later comes, you know, yeah, answers yeah, yeah, because
when you're younger, you go, well, later's down the road
and I don't have to worry about that. But here's what
you learn. The longer you're a round, you realize later
is coming. And everything I put off until later, I'm
gonna have to deal with later. And it doesn't get
(25:59):
easier when you put it off. So just figure out
a way to not borrow money for takeout food. I
mean I eat at home, Quit eating out, buy groceries.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Do that. Do that?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
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six forty. It's KFIM six forty. Imagine that you had
the unthinkable happen and you lose a child. That did
happen to a couple in Texas. They did not get
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their kids vaccinated. Their their kids got measles. And you've
probably heard that measles has claimed the life of one person.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It was their kid. They live in a Mennonite.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Community and they speak the Mennonite German, which is a
kind of a it's Germanish. Anyway, this is what they
were saying through a translator. Let me see if this
audio comes.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Through well and underhand.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
They think that it's not as bad as the media
is making it out to be. And it was her
time on earth. They believe that she's better off where
she is now versus all the NEGA activity and all
the stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Was that loud enough, CONO, I know, it was kind
of quiet there. It was good enough, all right? Thanks,
So they say, well it was time. That would be
tough for me to reconcile. Joining us right now is
our ABC News corresponded to in Texas. Jim Ryan, Jim
Good talk to you again there, my friend, what a
bizarre and sad story this is when.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, you lose you lose.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
A child, then we run into this ethical and moral
quandary between parenting and religion.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, well, you're right. There are Mennonites. This is a
deeply religious community out there in West Texas Gaines County.
Parents who came originally from Germany, I assume, or from
that part of Europe. And yes, this is a part
of their culture.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
The leadership in the Mennonite church out there, he says
that the main pastor there says that he doesn't preach
against getting your kids vaccinated or for getting your kids vaccinated.
He says he leaves it to the parents. But it
seems to be, at least based on what these parents
have said, the parents of the child who died, that
they leave God's hands. That there are other ways of
(02:06):
treating or preventing measles, cod lit roil, vitamins, supplements, name.
Traditional health community out there in West Texas and elsewhere
says that just doesn't work. Vaccination is the best way
to protect your kids.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, there seem to be a lot of these old
wives tales type remedies, right, These home remedies and nothing
seems to back that up. Are they getting any support
that you know of, Jim? Are they getting other people
that are rallying behind them and saying that's right, don't
get your kids vaccinated even if you lose one, because
(02:40):
they still have other kids, right.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
For other kids, And all of them had measles. They
were treated by a doctor out there who is kind
of gaining a name in West Texas for his defiance
against the call to vaccinate children. They also have the
backing of something called the Children's Health Defense, which they
posted the interview conducted and then posted the interview with
the parents on their website. On its website, this group
(03:04):
CHD Children's Health Defense was founded in two thousand and
seven by Robert F. Kennedy Junior. It's somehow, it's a
nonprofit organization and was founded long before the pandemic, long
before this. Certain this measle outbreak, certainly, but this is
Robert F. Kennedy's group, and it's the one who has
(03:24):
these parents out and front doesn't identify them by name,
but does do this interview with the parents of the
child who died.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So this is interesting because RFK Junior sat in front
of the Senate confirmation hearing and said that he was
not going to discourage vaccinations.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right, but here his whole.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Books, right, Well, that's true. He personally isn't isn't discouraging vaccination.
In fact, you know he's he's now saying that it's
a good idea to get your kids vaccinated. But that's
not a complete endorsement. It's not urging parents please go
get your kids vaccinated. It's not that at all. I'd
have hedged a little bit here in the last couple
(04:02):
of weeks. This I thought was fascinating.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Chris.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So, these Children's Health Defense on its website posted a
page which mimicked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
the CDC. This page looked, you know, the same font,
same logo, same everything, except that it talks on this
page about vaccines and a connection to autism, which is
(04:27):
something that Kennedy has talked about for a long time.
So this page was posted there and Robert F. Kennedy
Junior saw it and called the Children's Health Defense and said, hey,
you got to take that down. So maybe his position
is changing somewhat now that he's held in human Service
as secretary who knows. But even that was too much
(04:47):
for Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But am I mistaken Jim? It seems that Jim Ryaner
ABCNIWS correspondent, didn't. I see that the CDC is now
going to be investigating whether or not there's any link
between vaccines and autism.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It is research which has been done since the nineteen
nineties has shown that there is no link between this.
But we're talking about a Health and Human Services secretary
who's kind of directing that show others changes in staffing
at CDC, and so they will spend some other time
and some of your money, Chris, to determine whether there's
any link between autism and vaccination. In the past, there's
(05:23):
been no link established at all.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All Right, Jim, let's go back to this couple in
West Texas that lost the young one and say that
they still wouldn't get their kids vaccinated and that, as
you said, they believed it was their child's time to go.
That I guess basically God called this kid home. Is
there a response by others in the community, because I
know there are pockets in Texas, especially in West Texas,
(05:49):
with very very low vaccination rates. In fact, I was
just reading an article last week about one school was
bragging about having the lowest vaccination rate in the state.
Only fourteen percent of their students were vaccinated, which to
me seems like a really strange brag, not the flex
they think it is, but they're doing it. Are we
seeing some other parents that are that are heating the
warning and going, Okay, you know, in principle I was
(06:11):
all for this before, but maybe now that now that
it's here, I bought it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I better get my kid vaccinated.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah. So, despite you know what's being said in the
in the Mennonine community, out there other places, Yes, the
health department in Lubbock, for example, out out in West
Texas and other state health departments have set up vaccination clinics.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They offer them free.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
They park a VANA or RV outside the hospital and
they say come on. And yes, they've had lines of
people who were bringing their kids in and saying, you
know what, I better get this kid vaccinated because people
are getting sick, people are dying. So yes, you are
seeing that people are getting their kids vaccinated, such that
distribution was getting a little tight for the vaccine out
(06:54):
there to West Texas. That's kind of a good thing.
The Health Department wants to see that at the same
time seeing shortages essentially of things like codd live oil
supplements in some of the drug stores out there.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, and uh, what's that? What's that crackpot Jones? That's
he's selling supplements at his website right.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Uh are a radio guy there, the sandy.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Hook Alex Jones, Alex Alex Jones.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
He's got a supplements. I'm sure he's got something that's
gonna cure everything for everyone. It sounds like something my
sister in law will get into. She just loves to push,
you know, healing crystals and and uh, the essential oils
sounds perfect.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Well, I mean the people put a lot of faith
in that stuff. And uh, and there is this deep suspicion.
I think, more than anything else, Chris, it tells us
how deeply divided on principle the country is, you know,
on science and on things that we used to take
for granted. You know, I've got everybody got the MLMR
(08:00):
shot before they went off to school. But now you
have this this suspicion about that. And I don't know
if it's gonna get better or gonna get worse.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It is so strange to me though, Jim, because once
we all say I don't trust him, I don't trust him,
I don't trust him. But then of course once it's
in the community and we have a child who loses
their lives, then people are lining up to get their
kids vaccinated. So how deeply do their principles really run?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right? Of course that's what we're yeah, that's what we're
watching from from a farm, all right. Jim. Always great
talking to you, my friend. Thank you so much. Jim
Ryan Aby, Seniors correspondent who is in Texas. They're great
talking with Jim. If you missed it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Last week, President Trump signed an order saying get rid
of the Department of Education, which is kind of tough
to do because it's not a presidential department, but it
is under the executive branch, which means he can just
about decimate it anytime he wants.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
President Trump signing yet another executive order today, this one
directing is Education Secretary to dismantle the Department of Education.
We're going to be returning education very simply back to
the States where it belongs to the administration, arguing US
schools are failing, but the Department of Education does not
administer a curriculum, create lessons, or set requirements for enrollment
(09:20):
and graduation.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So what do they do if the Department of Education
doesn't oversee education?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
What are they?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Critics arguing this move will gut public education funding and
hurt millions of low income students and those with disabilities.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh, follow the money.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
What we find is when we give block grants to
states a lot of times, that hurts students in need
that help. That hurts brown and black children, and that
gives states opportunity to leave students out.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
But the White House saying the department will not totally
shut down, but.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
When it comes to student loan and pelgrants, those will
still be run out of the Department of Education. But
we don't need to be spending more than three trillion
dollars over the course of a few decades on a
department that's clearly failing in its initial intention to educate
our students.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
All right, so three trillion dollars over decades.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You notice how they kind of cut They go, we
don't need to be spending three trillion dollars over decades.
Here these numbers thrown around. For instance, they talk about
the budget and the you know, the Republicans passing the
continuing Resolution and they want to extend the tax cuts,
and they say, well, the tax cuts are going to
cost four point five trillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And then they.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Want to cut more and they want to cut another
two trillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's not that's not per year.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So I think I always think that we tend to
throw a bunch of numbers around, but we don't really
give those numbers context. It is tough enough to fathom
what a trillion dollars is anyway, it's even harder to
fathom when we don't give it any sort of context.
We say, this's trillions of dollars over ten years, or
in this case, three trillion dollars since its inception back
(11:05):
in the seventies.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Right, listen, but we don't need to be spending more
than three trillion dollars over the course of a few decades.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
On three trillion dollars over the course of a few decades,
it's been like forty five years. I'm not saying that
it's a good use of money, but context, context, Come on.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Official saying a smaller agency will help carry out some
of the critical functions that the department focuses on like
enforcing laws against discrimination and providing funding for low income
students and special education. I don't believe that those funds
will still be there if this department is closed. Head
of the American Federation of Teachers, Randy Weingarten saying on
(11:44):
social media, mister President, we will see you in court.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, of course. We're a group of.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Democratic senators has written a letter to Education Secretary Linda
McMahon urging her to reinstate those former employees, warning if not,
student loan borrowers will suffer dire consequences. We know Roy,
ABC News, New York.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, it's something like forty of the student loans that
are out there are past due. And a lot of
this has to do with the confusion from the last
administration with the on again, off again student loan forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So who's it going to affect?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Low income rural schools and students with disabilities mostly going
to be affected. Your student loans are now going to
have to be paid back to the small Business the
administration and mos Set Association Small Business Administration. That's who's
going to take over that. As far as what your
kids are learning, and we talk about schools aren't educating
(12:42):
well enough. Our education level is dropping. The United States
has falling behind. Department of Education doesn't see anything that
has to do with curriculum that's still set at state levels.
But we are likely to see a bunch of cuts
to the workforce at the Department of Education. I think
they're getting doged. You're going to get doged right out
of here. You're going to have the workforce cut it
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right off. By the way, they said that, well, they
want to make sure they protect that Office for Civil Rights. Actually,
that's one of the officers that they say is going
to be hit the hardest. So the ones that make
sure that schools are not violating kids, the civil rights,
protecting against things like anti semitism, that office is being thrashed.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So imagine you are very upset with your elected leaders.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
We've been there, right, You've probably seen something they've done,
you thought, what.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
A turd.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You've probably called them names worse than that. But do
you call them names worse than that in public to
their faces and on the record, Well, evidently some people do.
And what are the words we like to use, while
it's the words that we know are going to upset
the most people. It gives us power when we use
words that other people really don't like. If you use
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the N word, boy, are you really showing people the
kind of power you have over other people's emotions. You're
also typically showing you don't have a lot of intellect.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But I digress.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So people are showing up now at the La City
Council meetings or at the Board of Supervisor meetings or
other places, and they've decided they're going to use those
words that make them feel very very strong. If if
they're addressing someone who is black, they like to use
the N word, if they're addressing someone who is a woman,
they like to use the C word, because these are
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considered the most offensive of all the words. So the
La City Council says enough is enough. KTLA was reporting
on this one this week.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
LA City Council President Marquise Harris Dawson announced plans to
crack down on bile slurs during public comment at council meetings.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
West Side Current reporter John mcgardi spoke that or broke
that story actually today regard he spoke with our own
central Mitchell take a look.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Okay, John, thank you so much for being here, Yes,
thank you sick.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (15:07):
For anybody who's been at an LA City Council meeting,
you know that things can get disrupted very quickly. So
you've had some conversations with the council president, Harris Dawson.
Why does he think it's important to make this change
and why now?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, the change, by the way, would.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Ban people from attending meetings or get them kicked out
of meetings for repeatedly using the racial slur known as
the N word or the sexist vulgarity.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Known as the sea word.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's the way the La Times reports it, so thank
goodness they clarified that the N word was a racial
slur or that the sea word was a sexist vulgarity.
I appreciate that, well, Marquise.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Harris Dawson is really trying to make a more habitable,
more civic environment. As you reference, Yes, it can be
pretty dodgy in there. We frequently hear two of the
most vile words that you could come up with, along
with fbom some other language. So what he's going to
try to do is really introduce this motion that will
restrict the use of this language. Essentially, the council president
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would have the authority. If these words were uttered to
warrant someone once, if they try it a second time,
their time would be terminated. They would not be allowed
to speak anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
M Yeah, the government would stop someone from speaking. No,
I feel like that probably is going to go over well.
I mean, listen, if we lived in a country where
we wanted people to speak freely, we probably would have
made that a part of our constitution. But as we
(16:43):
all know, the government can limit our speech anytime they want.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
All right, we hear so much about free speech. But
for somebody who has not been at an LA City
Council meeting not experience this, not seeing the video of
what goes on, how would you describe that scene and
how has it been changing over the past few years.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, Sandra, it's really disconcerting. I went back and watched
some of the tape in preparation for this story for
the West Side Current. You do not feel good about
the city of Los Angeles when you see this happening
in the center of our government, which should be our
civic structure. There are repeated curse words. There are again
via words directed at African American council members, at female
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council members, you hear terms directed at people of Jewish
or Latino descent, many expletives will fly.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
It is the type of place that was sent to
me by many people that you know, a teacher would
not want to bring their class of young students down
to observe democracy because of what they would hear.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So the idea here is then, well, then the government
should limit the speech. There's a lot of speech that
we don't like, and so the government needs to limit
that speech so that we don't offend children's ears. I
am not going to support anything that the people are
saying that are dropping these words.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The story to me is, we have a lot of
a holes that are going to I use the A word.
We have a lot of a holes that are going
to these city council meetings so that they can tell
everybody how big of an a hole they are. If
you have to resort to this sort of name calling
and you want to use these words that make you
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feel big and powerful, it tells me one, you're an
a hole. Two you probably have very small male genitalia.
But that said, we do have freedom of speech, and
hate speech is protected, and these words are considered hate speech.
And if you're going to start limiting these things, then
we find ourselves in this weird slippery slope where we say, well,
we banned the N word because nobody likes that, and
(18:47):
we all agreed it was bad. We ban the C
word because nobody likes that, and we all agreed it
was bad.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And then what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Then somebody starts using anti Semitic terms. We go, well,
we got to ban that word too, or these words. Well,
somebody said that I was acting like Hitler, so now
I have to start banning.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You can't say Hitler.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And then they started using F bombs, Well, we can't
say f bombs. So you run into this really concerning
potential for a slippery slope that said, stop.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Being an a hole.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I always find it amazing that people are willing to
be so bold. I mean, they say the things that
that you just don't think are being said anymore, Like
this is not the nineteen sixties, but people still I'm
going to say it because I can. You can, you can,
and I'll protect your right to say you can. But
(19:44):
certainly never going to be caught in public talking to you.
I'll tell you that right now, first, imagine you open
your wallet, it is empty. You don't get paid till Friday,
but you are hungry right now. Boy, you really want
a pizza or a delicious burrito or tackle Bell whatever
it is. You just don't have the money, and lord
(20:05):
knows you're not going to eat whatever that can of
mystery food is in the pantry.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So what do you do? Well, it's really easy. You
take out a loan.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
By now pay later service. Klarna is partnering with DoorDash
to allow you to defer payments for delivery services. The
aim is to give consumers more flexibility when it comes
to their spending power. Finance experts say this could be
bad news for the economy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Ye real bad news.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
His Nation's Alicia and Yeavis has been following the story
at Lasia. So many questions. First, breakdown, how this will work?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Break it down?
Speaker 11 (20:37):
Interesting? And we know that you know a few companies
are doing this. It's coming kind of in the headlines
because Klarna just this week announced that partnership with DoorDash.
And basically what's happening here is listen. If you want
to buy lunch today and if your bank accounts running
a little bit low, you can buy that lunch today
on door dash, and then you'll split the payments for
that maybe over the next couple of weeks or months.
They haven't really outlined exactly, you know, the payment arrangement.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Because I'm going to take out a loan and split
my payments up for a burrito.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, I'm assuming that most people using this are not
going to be people ordering a burrito or a sushi
role it's probably dinner for the whole family.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Still because it hasn't launched yet. But I look at
another company that's doing this called zip. That company you
could actually buy, you know, a big batch of groceries
we call it Combra in Spanish at costcos or shopwrite
and then make eight payments over eight months for that
batch of groceries.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Eight months to pay for this month's grocery. It's all, well,
I don't see this not ending well at all.
Speaker 11 (21:40):
Now, I say this is interesting because typically with buy now,
pay later, it's usually for a one time major purchase
like a furniture set or a computer, and that's a
one time debt accumulation. Food and groceries that's a daily,
sometimes weekly potential accumulation.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
So is this going to hurt consumers.
Speaker 11 (21:57):
Yes, on one hand, this is better than putting, you know,
your groceries on your credit card if you can't afford
those groceries. Right, Because credit cards charge anywhere from like
seventeen percent to upwards a thirty percent interest on these
payment services, the consumer doesn't get hit with any interest, right.
The merchant actually pays a fee for that. As the
saying of business that I love, it's you know, there's
(22:18):
no such thing as a free lunch. Someone's paying for
that lunch, and because they're getting a benefit, the merchant
is willing to pay that. Because on average, people who
use buy now, Pay Later spend thirty to fifty percent
more than they would have if they had that money
on hand that much thirty to thirty to fifty percent more.
And those who wouldn't have been able to make a
purse at all, they're able, you know, to make that
purchase now. So that is concerning when you think that
(22:40):
if you don't have that money on hand, you're spending
even more than you have. Some are calling this predatory lending.
We've seen the CFPV, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau investigate
these companies in the past. They've warned for more oversight.
But under the current administration, under Doge, and we've talked
about that a lot. Yeah, that organization has been gutted.
So you're having this increase and buy now, pay later
(23:01):
with less oversight.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, so we all right, So we've.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Got companies that are saying you can borrow to pay
for your kid's dinner. It'll take you just eight months
to pay it off, but don't worry. It's better than
using your credit card. Oh and while you're getting your dinner,
don't you think that you ought to have extra dessert?
And don't you think those kids they want the chicky nuggets,
but they also you know, they want that extra toy
on the side, and they're gonna want dessert as well.
(23:30):
And so you spend fifty percent more and we don't
have everybody watching this. There's no oversight. We've cut the oversight.
Now who benefits you know who benefits? Door Dash is
benefiting as they normally do, but Clarin is making the money,
which means that you're taking people who don't have money
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and you are getting them into a payment plan to
give money that they don't have to somebody else who
has money. This is the cycle this is why he
says it's Some are calling it predatory lending.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Friends, I'll tell you what this is. It is.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It is a reflection on how bad our education system
instructs young people on money. And as someone who got
into some really bad credit card debt, really bad. In fact,
Ann and I were talking before the show that things
(24:29):
a few years back. I was in a lot of
debt and then I lost my gig and my wife
was making okay money, but things got real tight. We
had two car payments, we had a mortgage payment, and
we had this credit card debt that was mounting, and
so we said forget it. We sold off a bunch
of stuff and we went and lived quite literally in
(24:53):
a van down by the river for two years in
order to pay off all of our debt. And we
buckled down and we paid it off. And it was
a lesson that I never want to have to repeat again.
And if there's anything I can offer you, it's a
warning don't put yourself in that position. And by God,
if you are taking out short term loans effectively lay
(25:15):
away on a burrito, you are putting yourself in a
bad spot. And we are so bad in this country
about making decisions, impulse decisions that are going, we're gonna
pay for him later, and we always go, well, yeah,
but that's later.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah. But here's what I learned is I got old
and I hate man. I got old.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And remember when you got old and he started realizing
that later comes, you know, yeah, answers yeah, yeah, because
when you're younger, you go, well, later's down the road
and I don't have to worry about that. But here's what
you learn. The longer you're a round, you realize later
is coming. And everything I put off until later, I'm
gonna have to deal with later. And it doesn't get
(25:59):
easier when you put it off. So just figure out
a way to not borrow money for takeout food. I
mean I eat at home, Quit eating out, buy groceries.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Do that. Do that?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
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