April 8, 2025 • 22 mins
(April 08,2025)
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about tariffs effects on tech, the Apple rush, Nintendo delays, and what is the Dayo app. Dire wolf revived through biotech company’s de-extinction process. Space ads could be coming to a sky near you.
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about tariffs effects on tech, the Apple rush, Nintendo delays, and what is the Dayo app. Dire wolf revived through biotech company’s de-extinction process. Space ads could be coming to a sky near you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KFI AM six forty the Bill Handles show
on demand on the iHeartRadio f KFI AM six forty
Bill Handle Here.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It is a Taco.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Tuesday, April eighth, And since it is Tuesday, and since
it is eight o'clock, it's time for our Tech segment
with Rich Demurow.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Good morning, Rich, Hey, good morning to you, Bill, welcome back,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I have to tell you, as you know and as
people now know, I went off to Italy where I
got married and engaged in my honeymoon. And did you know,
let me tell you, do you know how many times
your name came up in the two weeks that I
was gone?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Three weeks and I came that I.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Was gone, not once, that's correct, absolutely, yes, zero, Oh,
thank you, You're welcome me humble.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Rich of course is not only kfi's tech guy and
heard on the show every Saturday here on KFI eleven
to two pm, but he's also a reporter on KTLA
every day, the tech Reporter Instagram at Rich on tech website,
rich on tech dot TV. We're also very proud of
the fact, or at least the station is that Rich,
you are syndicated and started right here on KFI.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yes, right there, and have expanded since it's been great
and KFI is still my first love.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's his contract talker, by the way, I have seen
his contract.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He has to say that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
All right, big news on the tariffs. Of course, that
is the economic news globally. And you think of tariffs
in terms of goods and services that are brought in.
Let's connect tariffs to tech because we get so much
tech from overseas, at least the manufactured.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, for me,
the only thing that I think of when it comes
to tariffs. I know we've talked about cars and all
these different things from maple syrup to whatever, But for me,
it's all about tech because all of these goods come
from overseas.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Pretty much a majority.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Of them are made in China and of course Vietnam, Taiwan.
So the entire tech industry is wondering, like, hey, what
is happening here? Are we going to be seeing higher
prices from the consumer standpoint? And also companies like what,
you know, what do they do? How do they react
to this? Do they immediately put these things on and
pass the added costs on to consumers or do they
(02:26):
wait and see Because there's so much turmoil right now,
we don't really know what's happening.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So the Chinese.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Tariffs are supposed to happen starting April ninth, which is tomorrow,
we don't know if that's going to happen. According to
a report out of Bloomberg, they're saying that Apple stores
saw a rush of consumers buying things like iPhones. And
I would say just in general, like people texting me
and asking me questions, there's been a lot of interest
in especially phones and laptop computers. That's what people are wondering,
(02:55):
you know, are these things going to increase in price?
And then Nintendo, while you were gone last sweek bill
they announced the switch to and then they said they
have to delay pre orders because they're just not sure,
like how this is all going to shake out.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Do they have to charge more?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
These things are going to be more expensive than four
hundred and fifty dollars, which is the announced price that
they came up with.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, with this tit for tat with China, and I
don't see g President g or President Trump backing down.
Both these guys have no problem playing chicken, and that's
what's going on. And they both have a lot to
lose and a lot to gain with these tariffs, more
to lose than to gain. But let's talk about iPhones.
(03:36):
If the tariffs go up to one hundred percent, which
looks like Wednesday, they very well might. I don't see
Trump backing down very quickly. What is an iPhone going
to cost right now?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's a thousand bucks for an iPhone, yeah, I mean
there's a report over the weekend. You know, the top
of the line iPhone could be like over two thousand dollars, twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Five hundred something like that.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You know, most people are getting the basic iPhone for
eight hundred dollars. If that doubled in price, that'd be
sixteen hundred. I from everything I can tell, the tech
companies are taking sort of a weight and see they
do not want to raise prices right now. And to
give an example of a computer, you know, there are
still deals to be had out there because a lot
of the stock that we're seeing is stock that has
(04:20):
already arrived in the country. It's already in the country,
so those prices don't go up necessarily overnight. But future
stock that arrives. That's where the problem is. And like
you said, you know, these are two countries that don't
want to back down. I mean, those are two leaders
that are just sitting there, you know, with the world
in their hands right now, and we're the consumers that
are just feeling uncertain. Cenet did a survey and basically
(04:45):
one in ten shoppers made big ticket purchases late last
year or early this year to avoid these tariff price jumps.
And I think the rest of the people are just
worried and wondering, like, hey, what do I do now?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Realistically, when we they talk about doubling prices, the price
is one thousand dollars. iPhone is not going to double
the two thousand dollars because shipping costs are not going
to increase. Certainly, the forty percent profit margin that Apple
makes or thirty five percent profit margin, that's not going
to double to seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So it's the cost of.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
The good at goods as it leaves China and comes
to the US. But still we're talking about a huge,
huge jump in price, and you.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Know what, and the go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, look, these companies, I think at the beginning,
if this goes on in a small way, these companies
are probably going to take a hit on the profits
that they make, right They're probably going to try to
hold off any giant price increases as long as possible
on the flip side if one company does it, because
right now, nobody wants to be the first electronics the
first tech company for a big headline to say iPhones
(05:55):
just went up by one hundred dollars, right They don't
want to be the first, because that's going to kick
off a chain of events where every tech company can
now say, okay, now we can raise the prices too.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And then for consumers.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Who are already sort of like in a tailspin here
wondering like what's going on, that's not a good thing
because then all of a sudden everyone has an excuse
to raise prices. And it reminds us a lot of
that pandemic era, right where one person raised prices and
the grocery store prices just kept going up, up.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Up up. We don't want that to happen with our gadgets.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, it's not going to be fun at all.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And thank goodness that I just bought my new iPhone, which,
by the way, I still don't know how to work it.
I just you know, it's kind of need the technology
and hopefully talked about this, but I've become a grilling
freak for you know, just for some reason.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm now grilling like every day.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And there is a thermometer that I have that works
on an app that immunigate to the meat. It's so
neat and I still don't know quite how to work
it because it's an app and it's I'll get.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
There because right now I'm just the meter bill. Uh,
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's a little thing with the black handle that you
it just sticks in the meat and you just put
it on the grill.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, it's about one hundred dollars. Meter is the big one.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, that's that's I mean, that's probably a meter, but
it's it's basically an app connected thermometer. So I tested
the first one way back in the day. Wasn't a
big fan because it was like a beta version. Now
they've you know, they sent me a new one. I
have yet to try it, but summer grilling seasons coming up.
What do you what do you make in most days?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Steak?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And I went to, uh, this is this is one
that I never thought I would do, and that is
I go to Costco, of course, where I buy my meat,
and I am buying prime meat at twenty six dollars
a pound for the high end steak. Now keep in mind,
twenty six dollars for one pound of meat is equivalent
to two shirts or two pairs of pants at Costco.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And you gotta make choices. Do you want to be?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But that is uh, just just to become a grill nutcase?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
All right, We're gonna come back and we have a
bunch more to talk about. Smart watch a budget one
the day oh app which I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is this a Harry Belafani situation here?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But okay, okay, Frank, okay, you don't know what that means?
That stated me? Kno? That is that is that that day?
Have you depour bunch?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
All right?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Banana? Okay? Uh, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's the deo song Harry Belifan eclips of music, having
nothing to do with this app at all. But I
just wanted to throw that out because I just wanted
to throw that out.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So what is the dao app?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, I do know that song, by the way, that
was in the Beetlejuice movie, So I do know that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Oh that's right, it wasn't the Beatle Juice music.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Harry Belafani introduced Calypso music the United States in the
nineteen fifties, and he also and he then went on
to become one of the great eros of the civil
rights movement. He was there at the march on Washington,
the Martin Luther King I have a dream speech day
and on and on. But anyway, let's talk about the app,
because this is good for you for knowing that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
By the way, the h what's the app?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know a little bit of pop culture. So this
is an app called Deoh. It's based out of Portland,
and the whole thing is to reward you for spending
less time on social media. So if you can limit
your usage to thirty minutes a day, you could.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Earn five dollars in rewards, and.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You can exchange those rewards, you can bank them and
then get discounts on products like JBL YETI a whole
bunch of other products that they have listed inside the app.
And the whole point is to keep you off of Instagram, TikTok,
Facebook X, and the founder said they did this because
you know, we're not getting anything in exchange for this
unless you're a social media influencer making money off this stuff.
(09:52):
You're basically giving up your data and your attention and
they want you to reclaim that. So we'll see how
this goes.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Ye, I'm a little confused.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You're getting points for not going onto all of these
social media apps?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Correct? And how do they measure how many you're not
going to?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Great question?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So on the iPhone they're gonna I'm assuming they take
advantage of the screen time where they can read how
long you've been on certain apps. So under thirty minutes
you're good. Over thirty minutes, they start docking that five
dollars down to zero.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And who is coming up with the five dollars if
they're not monetizing this.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Well, it seems like since you have to put the
five dollars towards these rewards, it seems like it's more
of a these companies have you know, given products to
this day, oh, startup, and that's how you get it.
So let me look at the products that they've got.
They've got north Face hydro flask and Espresso diyce in.
(10:52):
So it seems like it's it's more of a partnership
with these companies to say, hey, look, you know, we'll
give you a discount. You know, it's like maybe you'll
get fifty dollars off of Dice and if you if
you spend that little bit of time on social media.
So it's kind of a partnership, it seems with these
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's a marketing I'll buy a marketing partnership. That's I'll
buy that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Now, the five dollars is signifies what a length of
time and I don't quite know the formula.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Here, thirty minutes or less gets you five bucks. So
thirty minutes or less you get the five dollars. You
get that every day. So if you theoretically in a
month you can rack up one hundred and fifty dollars,
that to me, Bill seems way too good to be true,
because that that seems like if you're on this thing
for two months, that's three hundred dollars worth one of
(11:37):
these brands. So there must be like some fine print
the only use it towards like fifty percent of the
product or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, and you have to be some somewhere a Nigerian
prince is connected to this.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm convinced of.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That, well, a Nigerian prince in Portland.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But remember those, remember those scams. God, I love those,
all right.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Rich Thank you Saturday morning, eleven to two pm here
on KFI and Instagram, at rich on Tech website, rich
on tech Dot TV.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Rich you have a good day. We'll catch you tomorrow
on this ship on the TV. Take care bye, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
All right, there is a story out there that just
grabbed me, as it did with Ann also, and that
is about a biotech company called Colossal Biosciences, and it
has brought back it is claimed to have brought back
the dire wolf. The dire wolf went extinct ten thousand
years ago, and Colossal says.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Here it is, we have two of these little cubs.
Oh they're cutest pie.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I don't know if you've seen the video. Oh they're
the cutest things, a little white dire wolves. Anyway, it's
calling it the de extinction process. Interestingly enough, is it
genetic engineering? Is it cloning? Now I'm not an expert
in this stuff, the technical side of it, and there
seems to be a difference between what they did and
actual cloning.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Cloning is taking DNA.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
From For example, they're working on the wooly mammoth, bringing
a wooly mammoth back. And if you ever saw Jurassic Park,
which of course everybody has, they took the DNA of
dinosaurs that the mosquitoes sucked up its blood and then
got encased in amber. But that was the actual DNA,
(13:24):
which can be preserved for certainly ten thousand years.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Isn't the problem. This is a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This is using wolves that are in existence now, but
the closest thing to dire wolves doing some a little manipulation.
Don't know whether or not they've actually gotten DNA from
dire wolves either, bones certainly that would be it. I
think there's not a little bray of tarpits I have
(13:51):
dire wolves in it, and they took.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It out for the exhibit. I think dire wolves are
part of it.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But anyway, these guys are long gone and they're saying,
here we go, We've brought back this puppy and it
went extinct ten thousand years ago. Now, BOYD, does that
open up all kinds of issues? Does that mean that
I guess you can bring back dinosaurs. Probably not, because
you know, there isn't much DNA left the species that
(14:19):
died forty million years ago. But if this is real,
and I'm not saying it's not real, it's a question
of is this genetically is this a dire wolf or
is it kind of sort of looks like a dire
wolf and it is as close as you can get
without it being the real thing. And there are detractors
(14:41):
that say, no, it's close, it looks like it, but
it really isn't. On the other hand, what Colossal is
saying is it looks like it, it talks like it,
it walks like it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It is much like a quacking duck.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And so the head of the team, the investigative team,
the scientific team that did this, extracted dire wolf DNA
from two existing fossils to sequence the animal's genome. Did
they use that DNA specifically? You know, I don't know
the science here, but there is a difference. They've taken
(15:27):
a gray wolf genome. A gray wolf is genetically ninety
nine point five percent identical to dire wolves, so the
two are really close. And they said they edited the
cells that multiple places to sequence the dire wolf version
of the DNA. Again, I'm not an expert, and I'd
love to have someone who is in dire need of information.
(15:50):
That's very funny, who is in need of information to
send me an email and say, handle, you got it,
or handle you don't know what the hell you're talking about,
Probably the latter. But this is such fascinating stuff because
when I started practicing in third brought party reproduction. One
of the issues and we're talking about I was teaching.
(16:13):
I know it's hard to believe, but I taught law
school for four years and reproductive law. One of the
issues was genetic engineering in terms of human reproduction and
where this is going to go and the ethics involved
in that. There's nothing unethical about this bringing a dire
wolf back. No one's going to argue bringing a human
(16:34):
being back as a clone, or genetically engineering a human
being is a very different animal, as a dire wolf
is a very different animal.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
This gets very complicated. So you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'm going to bail out of this one, and I'll
pick up this story later on as it develops, and
and I'll talk about.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
This all right.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I want to end the show with the concept of
space ads, a sky full of ads. Now I'm not
talking about sky writing, which are adds up in the air.
Even those drones that fly around those are kind of
neat how they can.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's in lieu of fireworks.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The drones make American flags and you see all kinds
of fun stuff that you can do with drones. But
that is near what's right on top of it's a
few hundred feet up in the air. These are ads
in space. And there's a Russian company that's doing exactly that.
They've actually sent up a prototype already. The company is
(17:27):
Avant Space. It has deployed the first space media satellite
into Earth's orbit and it's a prototype for a quote
planned fleet of small, low cost laser equipped satellites designed
to and here's according to the Scientific American and they
described it to emblazon the Earth's sky with corporate logos,
(17:51):
QR codes and other consumer cultural ephemerara.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I even had to look that up. What the hell epemera.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Something it's temporary, Yes, that's exactly right. It's something that's
very temporary, like fireworks. And so imagine this. You're talking
about looking up at the night sky and it's only
going to be between this hilarious how they scribe it
between dusk and daylight. Wow, really, thank you for telling
us that, because up in the middle of the sun,
(18:22):
in the middle of the day, yeah, you'd be able
to see it, right, Thank you, you geniuses. So it's
only at night, and they say it's only going to
be above populated cities because the big concern actually is
telescopes that would be wiped out.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They wouldn't be able to see the stars.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I mean, it's kind of weird, but that seems to
be the major complaint. Now a lot of scientists are
a little upset about this, having these giant billboards up
in the sky and I'm talking about filling the sky up.
And it's cheap too. They're saying, sixty five million dollars.
They can put these puppies up and make a bucket
of money. Is anything stopping them? Is there a loss
(19:05):
stopping them? Absolutely not. You know, space is internationalized by treaty.
It belongs to nobody. Now everybody has their own every
country has its own airspace, but it only goes up
to the stratosphere. After that it's an open playground. You
(19:26):
can no one can tell anybody what to put up
what not to put up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Elon musk.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Now he is because it's an American company, SpaceX, he
has to comply. And if you're launching rockets off the
United States, you have to comply. The FAA actually controls that.
But you go to other countries, they're by treaty, they
can do whatever the hell they want. And that is
the fear, and scientists are going nuts. Now can you
(19:55):
imagine you walk out, Not that we don't have a
lot of pollution with billboards already as you drive down
the street, but you look up and the sky is
filled with effectively what these drones can do. And it's
all pretty neat stuff. And my in favor of it
(20:16):
depends on what they show up there, to be honest
with you, all right, Neil, stop shaking your head. We're done, guys,
all right. Coming up Gary and Shannon at ten thirty.
They're going to talk about homes being rebuilt in Palisades,
which is great news. Not one permit has been issued
in Altadena and they're talking about that at ten thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Also, I'm taking phone calls.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I will be engaged in answering marginal legal questions
with marginal legal advice off the air right at the top.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Of the hour when I say goodbye.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
A few minutes after we lock out the number eight
seven seven five two zero eleven fifty. Eight seven seven
five two zero eleven fifty. And since I'm doing this
off the air, as I us plee and always tell you,
there are no breaks, there are no commercials, there's no news,
there's no traffic, and certainly no patients on my part.
So we go through these phone calls fairly quickly. Eight
(21:11):
seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We're done. Peene back again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Wake up call at five am with Amy, and then
at six Neil and I join a board and we
do this show until right about now, and then of
course we have kno and and do whatever they do.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And Will, I think, is back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
He will be.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
He's fine, he will be. Will will be here. Ah huh,
there you go. Hey, you really miss me, didn't you?
All right? Catch in the morning, everybody Handle in the morning.
Pardon we actually did? Oh, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
All right, tomorrow morning KFI am six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
It is a Taco.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Tuesday, April eighth, And since it is Tuesday, and since
it is eight o'clock, it's time for our Tech segment
with Rich Demurow.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Good morning, Rich, Hey, good morning to you, Bill, welcome back,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I have to tell you, as you know and as
people now know, I went off to Italy where I
got married and engaged in my honeymoon. And did you know,
let me tell you, do you know how many times
your name came up in the two weeks that I
was gone?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Three weeks and I came that I.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Was gone, not once, that's correct, absolutely, yes, zero, Oh,
thank you, You're welcome me humble.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Rich of course is not only kfi's tech guy and
heard on the show every Saturday here on KFI eleven
to two pm, but he's also a reporter on KTLA
every day, the tech Reporter Instagram at Rich on tech website,
rich on tech dot TV. We're also very proud of
the fact, or at least the station is that Rich,
you are syndicated and started right here on KFI.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yes, right there, and have expanded since it's been great
and KFI is still my first love.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's his contract talker, by the way, I have seen
his contract.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He has to say that.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
All right, big news on the tariffs. Of course, that
is the economic news globally. And you think of tariffs
in terms of goods and services that are brought in.
Let's connect tariffs to tech because we get so much
tech from overseas, at least the manufactured.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, I mean I think that, you know, for me,
the only thing that I think of when it comes
to tariffs. I know we've talked about cars and all
these different things from maple syrup to whatever, But for me,
it's all about tech because all of these goods come
from overseas.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Pretty much a majority.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Of them are made in China and of course Vietnam, Taiwan.
So the entire tech industry is wondering, like, hey, what
is happening here? Are we going to be seeing higher
prices from the consumer standpoint? And also companies like what,
you know, what do they do? How do they react
to this? Do they immediately put these things on and
pass the added costs on to consumers or do they
(02:26):
wait and see Because there's so much turmoil right now,
we don't really know what's happening.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So the Chinese.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Tariffs are supposed to happen starting April ninth, which is tomorrow,
we don't know if that's going to happen. According to
a report out of Bloomberg, they're saying that Apple stores
saw a rush of consumers buying things like iPhones. And
I would say just in general, like people texting me
and asking me questions, there's been a lot of interest
in especially phones and laptop computers. That's what people are wondering,
(02:55):
you know, are these things going to increase in price?
And then Nintendo, while you were gone last sweek bill
they announced the switch to and then they said they
have to delay pre orders because they're just not sure,
like how this is all going to shake out.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Do they have to charge more?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
These things are going to be more expensive than four
hundred and fifty dollars, which is the announced price that
they came up with.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, with this tit for tat with China, and I
don't see g President g or President Trump backing down.
Both these guys have no problem playing chicken, and that's
what's going on. And they both have a lot to
lose and a lot to gain with these tariffs, more
to lose than to gain. But let's talk about iPhones.
(03:36):
If the tariffs go up to one hundred percent, which
looks like Wednesday, they very well might. I don't see
Trump backing down very quickly. What is an iPhone going
to cost right now?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's a thousand bucks for an iPhone, yeah, I mean
there's a report over the weekend. You know, the top
of the line iPhone could be like over two thousand dollars, twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Five hundred something like that.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You know, most people are getting the basic iPhone for
eight hundred dollars. If that doubled in price, that'd be
sixteen hundred. I from everything I can tell, the tech
companies are taking sort of a weight and see they
do not want to raise prices right now. And to
give an example of a computer, you know, there are
still deals to be had out there because a lot
of the stock that we're seeing is stock that has
(04:20):
already arrived in the country. It's already in the country,
so those prices don't go up necessarily overnight. But future
stock that arrives. That's where the problem is. And like
you said, you know, these are two countries that don't
want to back down. I mean, those are two leaders
that are just sitting there, you know, with the world
in their hands right now, and we're the consumers that
are just feeling uncertain. Cenet did a survey and basically
(04:45):
one in ten shoppers made big ticket purchases late last
year or early this year to avoid these tariff price jumps.
And I think the rest of the people are just
worried and wondering, like, hey, what do I do now?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Realistically, when we they talk about doubling prices, the price
is one thousand dollars. iPhone is not going to double
the two thousand dollars because shipping costs are not going
to increase. Certainly, the forty percent profit margin that Apple
makes or thirty five percent profit margin, that's not going
to double to seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So it's the cost of.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
The good at goods as it leaves China and comes
to the US. But still we're talking about a huge,
huge jump in price, and you.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Know what, and the go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, look, these companies, I think at the beginning,
if this goes on in a small way, these companies
are probably going to take a hit on the profits
that they make, right They're probably going to try to
hold off any giant price increases as long as possible
on the flip side if one company does it, because
right now, nobody wants to be the first electronics the
first tech company for a big headline to say iPhones
(05:55):
just went up by one hundred dollars, right They don't
want to be the first, because that's going to kick
off a chain of events where every tech company can
now say, okay, now we can raise the prices too.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And then for consumers.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Who are already sort of like in a tailspin here
wondering like what's going on, that's not a good thing
because then all of a sudden everyone has an excuse
to raise prices. And it reminds us a lot of
that pandemic era, right where one person raised prices and
the grocery store prices just kept going up, up.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Up up. We don't want that to happen with our gadgets.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Well, it's not going to be fun at all.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And thank goodness that I just bought my new iPhone, which,
by the way, I still don't know how to work it.
I just you know, it's kind of need the technology
and hopefully talked about this, but I've become a grilling
freak for you know, just for some reason.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm now grilling like every day.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And there is a thermometer that I have that works
on an app that immunigate to the meat. It's so
neat and I still don't know quite how to work
it because it's an app and it's I'll get.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
There because right now I'm just the meter bill. Uh,
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's a little thing with the black handle that you
it just sticks in the meat and you just put
it on the grill.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, it's about one hundred dollars. Meter is the big one.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, that's that's I mean, that's probably a meter, but
it's it's basically an app connected thermometer. So I tested
the first one way back in the day. Wasn't a
big fan because it was like a beta version. Now
they've you know, they sent me a new one. I
have yet to try it, but summer grilling seasons coming up.
What do you what do you make in most days?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Steak?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And I went to, uh, this is this is one
that I never thought I would do, and that is
I go to Costco, of course, where I buy my meat,
and I am buying prime meat at twenty six dollars
a pound for the high end steak. Now keep in mind,
twenty six dollars for one pound of meat is equivalent
to two shirts or two pairs of pants at Costco.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And you gotta make choices. Do you want to be?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But that is uh, just just to become a grill nutcase?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
All right, We're gonna come back and we have a
bunch more to talk about. Smart watch a budget one
the day oh app which I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is this a Harry Belafani situation here?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But okay, okay, Frank, okay, you don't know what that means?
That stated me? Kno? That is that is that that day?
Have you depour bunch?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
All right?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Banana? Okay? Uh, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's the deo song Harry Belifan eclips of music, having
nothing to do with this app at all. But I
just wanted to throw that out because I just wanted
to throw that out.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So what is the dao app?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, I do know that song, by the way, that
was in the Beetlejuice movie, So I do know that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Oh that's right, it wasn't the Beatle Juice music.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Harry Belafani introduced Calypso music the United States in the
nineteen fifties, and he also and he then went on
to become one of the great eros of the civil
rights movement. He was there at the march on Washington,
the Martin Luther King I have a dream speech day
and on and on. But anyway, let's talk about the app,
because this is good for you for knowing that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
By the way, the h what's the app?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know a little bit of pop culture. So this
is an app called Deoh. It's based out of Portland,
and the whole thing is to reward you for spending
less time on social media. So if you can limit
your usage to thirty minutes a day, you could.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Earn five dollars in rewards, and.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You can exchange those rewards, you can bank them and
then get discounts on products like JBL YETI a whole
bunch of other products that they have listed inside the app.
And the whole point is to keep you off of Instagram, TikTok,
Facebook X, and the founder said they did this because
you know, we're not getting anything in exchange for this
unless you're a social media influencer making money off this stuff.
(09:52):
You're basically giving up your data and your attention and
they want you to reclaim that. So we'll see how
this goes.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Ye, I'm a little confused.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You're getting points for not going onto all of these
social media apps?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Correct? And how do they measure how many you're not
going to?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Great question?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So on the iPhone they're gonna I'm assuming they take
advantage of the screen time where they can read how
long you've been on certain apps. So under thirty minutes
you're good. Over thirty minutes, they start docking that five
dollars down to zero.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And who is coming up with the five dollars if
they're not monetizing this.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Well, it seems like since you have to put the
five dollars towards these rewards, it seems like it's more
of a these companies have you know, given products to
this day, oh, startup, and that's how you get it.
So let me look at the products that they've got.
They've got north Face hydro flask and Espresso diyce in.
(10:52):
So it seems like it's it's more of a partnership
with these companies to say, hey, look, you know, we'll
give you a discount. You know, it's like maybe you'll
get fifty dollars off of Dice and if you if
you spend that little bit of time on social media.
So it's kind of a partnership, it seems with these
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's a marketing I'll buy a marketing partnership. That's I'll
buy that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Now, the five dollars is signifies what a length of
time and I don't quite know the formula.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Here, thirty minutes or less gets you five bucks. So
thirty minutes or less you get the five dollars. You
get that every day. So if you theoretically in a
month you can rack up one hundred and fifty dollars,
that to me, Bill seems way too good to be true,
because that that seems like if you're on this thing
for two months, that's three hundred dollars worth one of
(11:37):
these brands. So there must be like some fine print
the only use it towards like fifty percent of the
product or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, and you have to be some somewhere a Nigerian
prince is connected to this.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm convinced of.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That, well, a Nigerian prince in Portland.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But remember those, remember those scams. God, I love those,
all right.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Rich Thank you Saturday morning, eleven to two pm here
on KFI and Instagram, at rich on Tech website, rich
on tech Dot TV.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Rich you have a good day. We'll catch you tomorrow
on this ship on the TV. Take care bye, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
All right, there is a story out there that just
grabbed me, as it did with Ann also, and that
is about a biotech company called Colossal Biosciences, and it
has brought back it is claimed to have brought back
the dire wolf. The dire wolf went extinct ten thousand
years ago, and Colossal says.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Here it is, we have two of these little cubs.
Oh they're cutest pie.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I don't know if you've seen the video. Oh they're
the cutest things, a little white dire wolves. Anyway, it's
calling it the de extinction process. Interestingly enough, is it
genetic engineering? Is it cloning? Now I'm not an expert
in this stuff, the technical side of it, and there
seems to be a difference between what they did and
actual cloning.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Cloning is taking DNA.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
From For example, they're working on the wooly mammoth, bringing
a wooly mammoth back. And if you ever saw Jurassic Park,
which of course everybody has, they took the DNA of
dinosaurs that the mosquitoes sucked up its blood and then
got encased in amber. But that was the actual DNA,
(13:24):
which can be preserved for certainly ten thousand years.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Isn't the problem. This is a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This is using wolves that are in existence now, but
the closest thing to dire wolves doing some a little manipulation.
Don't know whether or not they've actually gotten DNA from
dire wolves either, bones certainly that would be it. I
think there's not a little bray of tarpits I have
(13:51):
dire wolves in it, and they took.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It out for the exhibit. I think dire wolves are
part of it.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But anyway, these guys are long gone and they're saying,
here we go, We've brought back this puppy and it
went extinct ten thousand years ago. Now, BOYD, does that
open up all kinds of issues? Does that mean that
I guess you can bring back dinosaurs. Probably not, because
you know, there isn't much DNA left the species that
(14:19):
died forty million years ago. But if this is real,
and I'm not saying it's not real, it's a question
of is this genetically is this a dire wolf or
is it kind of sort of looks like a dire
wolf and it is as close as you can get
without it being the real thing. And there are detractors
(14:41):
that say, no, it's close, it looks like it, but
it really isn't. On the other hand, what Colossal is
saying is it looks like it, it talks like it,
it walks like it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It is much like a quacking duck.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And so the head of the team, the investigative team,
the scientific team that did this, extracted dire wolf DNA
from two existing fossils to sequence the animal's genome. Did
they use that DNA specifically? You know, I don't know
the science here, but there is a difference. They've taken
(15:27):
a gray wolf genome. A gray wolf is genetically ninety
nine point five percent identical to dire wolves, so the
two are really close. And they said they edited the
cells that multiple places to sequence the dire wolf version
of the DNA. Again, I'm not an expert, and I'd
love to have someone who is in dire need of information.
(15:50):
That's very funny, who is in need of information to
send me an email and say, handle, you got it,
or handle you don't know what the hell you're talking about,
Probably the latter. But this is such fascinating stuff because
when I started practicing in third brought party reproduction. One
of the issues and we're talking about I was teaching.
(16:13):
I know it's hard to believe, but I taught law
school for four years and reproductive law. One of the
issues was genetic engineering in terms of human reproduction and
where this is going to go and the ethics involved
in that. There's nothing unethical about this bringing a dire
wolf back. No one's going to argue bringing a human
(16:34):
being back as a clone, or genetically engineering a human
being is a very different animal, as a dire wolf
is a very different animal.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
This gets very complicated. So you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'm going to bail out of this one, and I'll
pick up this story later on as it develops, and
and I'll talk about.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
This all right.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I want to end the show with the concept of
space ads, a sky full of ads. Now I'm not
talking about sky writing, which are adds up in the air.
Even those drones that fly around those are kind of
neat how they can.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's in lieu of fireworks.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The drones make American flags and you see all kinds
of fun stuff that you can do with drones. But
that is near what's right on top of it's a
few hundred feet up in the air. These are ads
in space. And there's a Russian company that's doing exactly that.
They've actually sent up a prototype already. The company is
(17:27):
Avant Space. It has deployed the first space media satellite
into Earth's orbit and it's a prototype for a quote
planned fleet of small, low cost laser equipped satellites designed
to and here's according to the Scientific American and they
described it to emblazon the Earth's sky with corporate logos,
(17:51):
QR codes and other consumer cultural ephemerara.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I even had to look that up. What the hell epemera.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Something it's temporary, Yes, that's exactly right. It's something that's
very temporary, like fireworks. And so imagine this. You're talking
about looking up at the night sky and it's only
going to be between this hilarious how they scribe it
between dusk and daylight. Wow, really, thank you for telling
us that, because up in the middle of the sun,
(18:22):
in the middle of the day, yeah, you'd be able
to see it, right, Thank you, you geniuses. So it's
only at night, and they say it's only going to
be above populated cities because the big concern actually is
telescopes that would be wiped out.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They wouldn't be able to see the stars.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I mean, it's kind of weird, but that seems to
be the major complaint. Now a lot of scientists are
a little upset about this, having these giant billboards up
in the sky and I'm talking about filling the sky up.
And it's cheap too. They're saying, sixty five million dollars.
They can put these puppies up and make a bucket
of money. Is anything stopping them? Is there a loss
(19:05):
stopping them? Absolutely not. You know, space is internationalized by treaty.
It belongs to nobody. Now everybody has their own every
country has its own airspace, but it only goes up
to the stratosphere. After that it's an open playground. You
(19:26):
can no one can tell anybody what to put up
what not to put up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Elon musk.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Now he is because it's an American company, SpaceX, he
has to comply. And if you're launching rockets off the
United States, you have to comply. The FAA actually controls that.
But you go to other countries, they're by treaty, they
can do whatever the hell they want. And that is
the fear, and scientists are going nuts. Now can you
(19:55):
imagine you walk out, Not that we don't have a
lot of pollution with billboards already as you drive down
the street, but you look up and the sky is
filled with effectively what these drones can do. And it's
all pretty neat stuff. And my in favor of it
(20:16):
depends on what they show up there, to be honest
with you, all right, Neil, stop shaking your head. We're done, guys,
all right. Coming up Gary and Shannon at ten thirty.
They're going to talk about homes being rebuilt in Palisades,
which is great news. Not one permit has been issued
in Altadena and they're talking about that at ten thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Also, I'm taking phone calls.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I will be engaged in answering marginal legal questions
with marginal legal advice off the air right at the top.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Of the hour when I say goodbye.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
A few minutes after we lock out the number eight
seven seven five two zero eleven fifty. Eight seven seven
five two zero eleven fifty. And since I'm doing this
off the air, as I us plee and always tell you,
there are no breaks, there are no commercials, there's no news,
there's no traffic, and certainly no patients on my part.
So we go through these phone calls fairly quickly. Eight
(21:11):
seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We're done. Peene back again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Wake up call at five am with Amy, and then
at six Neil and I join a board and we
do this show until right about now, and then of
course we have kno and and do whatever they do.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And Will, I think, is back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
He will be.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
He's fine, he will be. Will will be here. Ah huh,
there you go. Hey, you really miss me, didn't you?
All right? Catch in the morning, everybody Handle in the morning.
Pardon we actually did? Oh, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
All right, tomorrow morning KFI am six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
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