May 19, 2025 • 28 mins
(May 19,2025)
Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ advances as conservative holdouts secure changes. A reality show where immigrants compete for U.S. citizenship? DHS is considering. Will Pope Leo XIV, like other American expats, have to file U.S taxes? What we know about Guy Edward Bartkus, suspected as Plam Springs clinic bomber.
Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ advances as conservative holdouts secure changes. A reality show where immigrants compete for U.S. citizenship? DHS is considering. Will Pope Leo XIV, like other American expats, have to file U.S taxes? What we know about Guy Edward Bartkus, suspected as Plam Springs clinic bomber.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It is a Monday morning, May nineteenth. Okay, Well, the
big beautiful bill that President Trump has been advocating and
pushing very hard has finally come out of committee because
you had five hardcore Republicans saying, oh, no, we're spending
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way too much money. They actually are looking at the
deficit in spending federal spending this year next year.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Because one of the things that happened is really weird.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Republicans used to be deficit hawks, and we get all
pissed off that the government spend more money that was
taking in. Remember under Obama, when the national debt hit
twenty trillion dollars, Trump went out of his mind, rightly so,
by the way, saying, how do we sustain a billion
dollar national debt? Forget about the deficit, And so he
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made a very big deal. Trump comes into office. He
blows away any deficit spending that any president has ever had,
other than Joe Biden during COVID. All the money that
was spent during COVID to help businesses and individuals, and
there was massive amounts of fraud of course that happened
during the time, and that's a whole different story. Do
you set up a watchdog agency to over to overlook
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fraud and waste or do you simply spend the money
while businesses are going I have gone out of business.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So with that, the President proposed this big, beautiful new
bill in which a lot, virtually every social program is
cut environment, education, food assistant housing assistance, medicine. For example,
there was one hundred and thirty one million dollars grant
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to UNSEF or to the UN to fight polio around
world that was funded by the US.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Cut done, that's finished.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Huge increases in border patrol and in defense spending. So
this was Trump with a big beautiful bill and Mike Johnson,
the Speaker, who is not there as Speaker of the House,
he is there as speaker for the President in the House,
does not believe in checks and balances. His job, as
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he sees it, is simply to advance whatever the President
wants on any bill, under any circumstances, on any matter.
And he said that the changes that were agreed to
really were just some minor modifications, not a huge thing. Well,
it is a huge thing. One of the things that
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the Chair of the committee said. The Republicans who criticize
the measure noted that the bill's new spending and tax cuts,
and that's what it's about, tax cuts, making permanent some
temporary tax cuts. Tax cut not taxing tips, for example,
or over time, which I find incredible because if tips
are part of your income, does that mean that servers
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are getting a break on that and they're not paying
taxes on part of their income. Gee, I'd love that
to happen on my income. And it's one of those
that the tax cuts are front loaded, the measures to
offset the costs are backloaded. And he said, we're not
going to we can't do it, we can't sustain it.
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And it primarily extends that income tax cut, adds temporary
new ones, including the no tax on tips, overtime pay,
auto loan interest payments. Oh man, it's an insane amount
of money that is going to be spent, that is
going to be cut at the same time on entitlement programs,
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that means social programs. And that's simply the way Trump
wants it. Now, Mike, I love this. Okay, what do
they call this act?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Usually it's the Citizens Tax Cut to make Americans greater
and whatever. You know, they always have some kind of
BS name for the tax cut. This is called the
One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Gee, I wonder where they
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got that name. I'm surprised that this isn't called the
Joe Biden was the worst president in the history of
the United States Act or Donald Trump should be elected
to a third Trump to a third term Act. I
mean it is, and I said earlier, this is a
bill that finally, at the last leg went through the
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ugly forest and got hit with a few branches, and
they have to come back right. Proposed changes to medicated
food is distance program, rolling back of clean energy tax credits,
whichever way you want to look at it, and also
propose tripling the ten thousand dollars cap on the state
and local tax deduction, increasing it from ten thousand to
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thirty thousand. Because one of the things Trump did, a
man who believes in tax deduction, tax deductions and not
paying taxes says, when it comes to blue states, how
do we get blue state voters to really suffer for
not electing Donald Trump, not voting for Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Tell you what we do, institute something called.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Salt where heretofore deductions on property taxes were given by
the government. In other words, you could deduct property taxes
against income tax. Same thing on income tax that you pay,
you can deduct that. And what Trump did was say, okay,
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ten thousand dollars income tax done, ten thousand dollars max
on income tax, state income tax, ten thousand dollars max
on property tax.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Who is a hit the worst? Well, how about states
that have the highest state income tax? So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
How about California. How about states that have the highest
property tax? Oh, I don't know, California. The big beautiful
Joe Biden was the worst president in the history of
the United States Act. Okay, we're done with that one.
By the way, refute this please. We talked about this
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one before. This is a show, well not quite this one.
You've heard commercials here on KFI Christy Nome, Department of
Homeland Security talking about illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
You go home, or we're going to arrest you. We're
going to throw you out.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
There is a new show that DHS is considering. You
couldn't make this up. You can't make this stuff up.
Every day it's here every day. It's absolutely insane. Here's
another one coming right up, a new reality show bill
handle here.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It is a Monday morning, May nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We start another week, and oh, summertime is just about here,
pretty close.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
We're getting into some very nice weather.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You've been hearing commercial by Christy Nome, who is Secretary
of Homeland Security here on KFI, and the government has
bought a bunch of other stations and outlets to hear
her worn illegal aliens, undocumented people get the hell out
of Dodge and describing a couple of incidents in which
some horrific incidents where people who were illegal committed these
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insane crimes as in broad brush. You know, therefore, these
three or these four incidents would not have happened if
nobody illegal were brought into the country. And then you
have also tens of thousands of citizens who also commit crimes.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And what are you to do about that? Well, we
got to do something, maybe take away their citizenship. Who
the hell knows? All right now.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The government also gets involved in TV shows. Didn't know
if it didn't, well you probably didn't know that. And
usually their documentary shows following the border patrol, for example,
or following the army, or I just saw a documentary
on Air Force One. The federal government allowed that to
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happen the Secret Service. This one is a little bit different,
and I think it comes from President's Trump background as
an insanely successful reality show star, which helped a lot
for his political career The Apprentice, and he just likes
reality shows. So the Department of Homeland Security is considering
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taking part in a TV show where immigrants go through
a series of challenges to get American citizenship. There it
would be based on various Americans traditions and customs, that's
spokeswoman for the agency said, and the department is still
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reviewing the idea. A pitch by a producer named Rob Worsof,
the spokesperson this woman said the pitch generally was a
celebration of being an American and what a privilege it
is to be able to be a citizen of the
United States of America.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And it's important to revive civic duty.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Oh buy that, and the agency is happy to review
out of box pitches, particularly those.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That celebrate what it means to be an American. Now, boy,
this is.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
About it out of box as you could possibly get.
Worsof is a forty nine year old Canadian American. He
thought of this idea when he was being.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Naturalized, so he said, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Immigrants in the show would compete for challenges in various states.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
One challenge, for example, could be highlighting.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
NASA in Texas or Florida and seeing which immigrant could
assemble and launch rocket first, and if you can do
it first or a shoot off a rocket the highest,
then you win. And there's also trivia or civic challenges.
And the show ends with someone being sworn in.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
As a US citizen. Now there are some parameters here.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
No one is going to be penalized in their immigration
process or deported as a result.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Too bad that this isn't Hunger Games for immigration.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That the survivor gets to be an American citizen, which
actually is pretty close when you look at Hungry Games.
If you remember that movie, it was pretty damn close.
Jennifer Lawrence, I think, well, will this be to the death?
I don't know, that's the whole point I'm making. Will
it be to the death? So I'm thinking, what could
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they do now?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The people will become American citizens.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I will tell you any federal judge, well, first of all,
any state judge will tell you, the highlight of any
career in being a judge is granting adoptions. They just
love that. For a federal judge, the highlight of their
career is swearing in new American citizens. Everyone will tell
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you have a room full of people from all over
the world holding American flags and they're all being sworn in,
and you can see the smile on their faces, the crying.
It's an extraordinary thing. I remember when I was eleven
when I was sworn in with my parents. I'll never
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forget that day and how tears coming down their face
and it was tremendous. So it is a big deal
to become an American citizen.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So imagine this.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You have someone who is undocumented the chance to become
an American citizen, and all they have to do is
very It's almost like survivor versus It's based on the survivor.
Think about that, going who can best go through a
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a fence, a barbed wire fence, a race from Border
patrol agents.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Then they vote them off Ellis Island.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
This idea hot dog eating contests or yeah, apple pie.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well here it is. How about this how about this.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You've got a bunch of Muslims who can eat the
most pork hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean, you can really make this as entertaining.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
By the way, does that sound crazy any crazier than
this idea?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Oh? Tell me you. I'm sorry I lost you. You
clucked out?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I said, tell me you wouldn't watch it all?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Are you kidding? I would watch this a heartbeat all right?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Uh? Yeah, Well it's just terrific.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I mean, I love this idea.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Can you imagine any other administration looking at this as
opposed to just laughing in someone's face and saying no,
and the story disappears.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The story just disappears.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
But you have a big statue of Trump with cameras
in his eyes, and he looks at everybody and watches.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And this could be this could be big doings.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You could do a lot with this. You could do
a whole lot only today.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know what, It would be a one for one
we we could they you put them up and getst
an American that we don't want here, and then if
they lose, the American has to go to whatever country
the person came from. So it's like a swap.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's like wife swap. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, So whatever idea you can come up with, nothing
crazier than what they have here. Nothing that's how unbelievably
and how terrifically entertaining all of this is all right,
coming up, here's a question. And Pope Leo is an
American citizen. You know that the rules of being an
American citizen is American citizens have to file taxes.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Doesn't matter where you live.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Does Pope Leo have to file income taxes? I'll explain
that story because there's a few wrinkles to this some
of the big stories.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We are looking at a lot of news coming into
our morning show this morning.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Former President Biden has been diagnosed with an aggressive form
of prostate cancer that has spread to his bones. It's
potastasized now for what we're told from his doctor is
that it is treatable and it doesn't look like he's
gonna die in two weeks or five weeks or whatever.
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But still it's pretty serious stuff. And have we gotten
the news yet the heather whether Trump and Putin have
been on the phone talking about the war in Ukraine.
They were scheduled o'clock time, okay, seven am, our time?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
All right, Well, I mean, we think you'd be hearing.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It, uh, you know from CNN and watching CNN and BBC,
and of course of a yeah, because they would have
announced that it is happening now and they have not
yet done that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Okay, Uh, this is a fun one.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah. And we do such serious stuff all the time.
I occasionally love to have fun. Uh. There's a rule
with the IRS. If you are an American citizen, the
IRS does not care where you live and where you
earn money. You get to pay US taxes and you
have to file a tax return.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Pop Leo is an American citizen even though he has
not lived in the United States for decades, Does he
have to file income tax?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Does he have to file on an income tax return? Ah?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That gets a little bit complicated depending on the order
of which he is assigned to. Now you can have
a pope who's a Jesuit. You can have a pope
who is another order and he is part of the
what is it, how does it pronounced? The Order of
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Saint Augustine. And priests can make money.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They can depending on which order they're with. And there
are people that leave priests money.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, there are people you know very religious people
that are fairly wealthy and leave money and property to
the church.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Some leave them to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Particular priests, particular clergy people that they have a long
relationship with. And so is he going to file income
tax even if he doesn't have to, he should, And
I'll tell you the reason. You're gonna go, ah, yeah,
that makes sense. Okay, let's start with the fact he
is a member of the Order of Saint Augustine.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Still is all right? He entered that when he was
in his twenties.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They take the strictest vow of poverty, known as the
Solemn Vow. The night before they join the Order as
full members, they sign a document renouncing their right to
own property of any kind and turn all of their
private goods and any income they receive to the Order.
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Now there are teachers who are members of the Order
of Saint Augustine who get a salary, but the salary
goes to the Order. The salary goes to their particular
order that they belong to, and so he makes no
income whatsoever. So therefore he is exempt. If an Augustinian
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receives a gift or other income, he relinquishes that as well.
When Leo became a cardinal, the Knight be he became
a cardinal, he actually had some money. Now, he was
very popular in Peru and he was gifted with property
and substantial money, which he turned over immediately. In addition,
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members of Saint Augustine, and we're talking about a member
Americans don't pay into Medicare, don't pay into Social Security. Instead,
the Order pays all their medical expenses and pays whatever
they need food, etc. And when they retire, so they
don't file individual US tax returns. And there is no
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record of Leo ever filing a tax return. Now, the
IRS has pursued and won cases involving vows of poverty.
When you have a clergyman saying I am poor. I
don't receive any money to go. Oh, yes you do.
In the case of Leo, do they move forward now
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that he's pope, does he file an income tax return? Well,
technically speaking, and maybe more than technically speaking, he doesn't
have to because he makes absolutely no income whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And if you are an ex pat and you live overseas.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Unless there is a treaty between the United States and
other countries, you could get hit with a double tax.
That's no fun. Now most countries whatever income tax. Let's say,
as you know, I've been talking about living in Italy
after I retire for a period of time, I'll be
there and I'll be bi coastal is what I want
to do. And well, I still be earning money in Italy. Yeah,
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I'll probably be doing handle on the law. I'll still
probably be doing commercials. I'll still be filling in so
I'll be making an income. So I have to pay
Italian income tax. However, I can take that off of Well,
let's say I owe fu thousand dollars in or Italian
tax and I owe twenty thousand dollars an American tax. Well,
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I can offset that, so I pay five grand in
Italy and I pay fifteen.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Thousand dollars in the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So it's sort of even Stephen, But unless I have
I live in a country that doesn't have a treaty, Well,
Italy does have a treaty with the United States. He
now lives in Italy, but he makes absolutely no money,
none whatsoever, So why should he file a tax return?
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Tax experts are saying, yes, why is that because of
fraud and identity theft? That's why, because you have a
birth certificate. A guy who hasn't filed, and all of
a sudden someone steals his identity, begins filing asks for
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fraudut returns, and can you imagine Pope Leo the fourteenth
being a victim of identity fraud, which if you look
at algorithms that do this, there may actually be a
decent chance that that would happen.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Boy, tell me, that's not a story. Huh. So he
probably won't be filing. And it's kind of interesting stuff.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So the suggestion is, even if you make no money,
or you make and you don't have to if you
make less than I think sixteen thousand dollars a year,
you don't have to file. Okay, coming up the Palm
Springs clinic bomber, the IVF clinic that was bombed.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm gonna tell you a little bit about it.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
One part of it is it is not a huge story,
big picture, But the other part of it is just fascinating.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Wow, I didn't know this stuff was a thing. Hey,
come Friday, as hopefully.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You know by now thirty, right after Foody Friday with
Neo from eight Day thirty at eight thirty, we do
two segments Ask Handle Anything where I answer personal questions
because some people have been asking them for a very
long time, so I thought, sure, why not, let's do
it on the show, and this past Friday with some
really interesting ones because I'm pretty honest about it. You know,
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my background, what's going on, Yeah, you know, because people
are interested, but they're interested in anybody. I'm interested in
what Cole Built has to say or Tim Conway, what's
he like?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So anyway, ask Candle anything during the course of the show.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Here's how it works.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You go to the iHeartRadio app, click onto KFI a
microphone in the upper right hand corner, Click onto that,
and you have fifteen seconds to record a question. I
don't want to hear your opinion on anything, but a
question involving what I do, my feelings about the show,
what we do, any personal question, and I get some
really personal questions. And I'm pretty open about him, so
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that's kind of fun. Ask Handle Anything during the course
of the show. You go to the iHeartRadio app. Now, boy,
this was news all over the country and it had
to do with palm springs, which usually doesn't give us
a lot of news, and that is guy Edward Barkis
is suspected when on he did it, being the Palm
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Springs clinic, bomber and IVF clinic that he blew up
with a car bomb. And I mean it was a
car bomb. It was a car loaded with explosives. He
drew up next to the clinic and it just they're
still looking for his pieces.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
There was not much left.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
He took the concept of finger sandwiches to a whole
different level. And the authority said, you talk about a
statement being made, now, I want to make a point here.
It is a personal statement. I know that there was
talk and I was called over the weekend a couple
of times. Do I go on some of the weekend
shows because I was in the infertility business and this
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is an IVF clinic and talk about security and you know,
was I frightened when I was in the business.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
No, No, this.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Is not an abortion clinic that has deep political connotations
and deep moral connotations where that is a big deal.
This is a fruitcake that decided he wants to blow
up an IVF clinic. And it's been a very very
long time since IVF is considered a thing, and originally
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and when I first started in the world of infertility,
IVF was fairly controversial, especially among religious folks. If you know,
you shouldn't play God and you shouldn't get involved in
creating children.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Only God should do that. Well, you know there's that concept.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If God intended you to write on trains, he would
have given you steel wheel wheels. Come on, guys, give
me a break. So that disappeared fairly quickly. So IVF
is considered just just a normal part of medical practice
to help infertile couple have kids. So the reason I'm
bringing this up because it is not a big deal
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societally speaking, and he's the only one that died, which
is kind of neat.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Although a couple of people were seriously.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Injured, and that is, he left behind a manifesto and
they went he didn't specifically leave it behind. They went
to his social media and a it was done anonymously,
but they know who did it, and that was him,
And the site began. You can download the recorded stream
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of my suicide. Theoretically he was going to stream it.
He didn't of my suicide and bombing of an IVF clinic.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
There isn't any file that exists.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
However, the site does talk about philosophies, and this is
the fun part of the story. I had no idea
there were these philosophies. Basically, he was against people having children.
That was what his philosophy was. And he talked about
abolitionist veganism. What the hell is that. It's the opposition
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to all animal use by humans. I'm assuming even keeping
animals as pets all animal use negative utilitarianism.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We should act to minimize suffering rather than maximize pleasure
in the world. Okay, So if you happen to be
if you're one of those people that plays with yourself,
you should be thinking not about how much pleasure you
receive or when you have sex. It's about how you
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minimize suffering in the world. Okay, that works. Pro mortalism,
it is best for sentient beings.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That's people who think us.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
To die as soon as possible to prevent future suffering.
Now there's a little bit of a spin there that
makes sense, a little tiny bit, and that is today
there's a growing number of people who are not having
children for a bunch of reasons, one of them being
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do you want to bring kids into this world with
the fact that climate change is upon us. We're going
to live the polarization is going on. We know they're
going to be water wars because they're a limited amount
of water and we go through massive periods of drought
in certain parts of the world read southern California. We
know there are cyber wars. It's not going to be
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a fun place to live. And a lot of people
are saying, shouldn't bring kids in the world. I feel
that way, not so much because of that, but because
I had my two daughters and if I had to
do it over again, eh, you know what, I don't
know if I would do it. Frankly, I was having
that conversation last week with Pamela. She goes, thanks, Dad
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really appreciated.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well. I think most of us agree with you that
you shouldn't have brought children into this world.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
And there is a whole legal premise on that. There's
been a couple of.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Lawsuits wrongful wrongful life lawsuits not wrongful dab yep, yep,
that is a whole.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Thing as a matter of fact, should we do that?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Wrongful life?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
It is a Monday morning, May nineteenth. Okay, Well, the
big beautiful bill that President Trump has been advocating and
pushing very hard has finally come out of committee because
you had five hardcore Republicans saying, oh, no, we're spending
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way too much money. They actually are looking at the
deficit in spending federal spending this year next year.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Because one of the things that happened is really weird.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Republicans used to be deficit hawks, and we get all
pissed off that the government spend more money that was
taking in. Remember under Obama, when the national debt hit
twenty trillion dollars, Trump went out of his mind, rightly so,
by the way, saying, how do we sustain a billion
dollar national debt? Forget about the deficit, And so he
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made a very big deal. Trump comes into office. He
blows away any deficit spending that any president has ever had,
other than Joe Biden during COVID. All the money that
was spent during COVID to help businesses and individuals, and
there was massive amounts of fraud of course that happened
during the time, and that's a whole different story. Do
you set up a watchdog agency to over to overlook
(01:28):
fraud and waste or do you simply spend the money
while businesses are going I have gone out of business.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So with that, the President proposed this big, beautiful new
bill in which a lot, virtually every social program is
cut environment, education, food assistant housing assistance, medicine. For example,
there was one hundred and thirty one million dollars grant
(01:56):
to UNSEF or to the UN to fight polio around
world that was funded by the US.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Cut done, that's finished.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Huge increases in border patrol and in defense spending. So
this was Trump with a big beautiful bill and Mike Johnson,
the Speaker, who is not there as Speaker of the House,
he is there as speaker for the President in the House,
does not believe in checks and balances. His job, as
(02:27):
he sees it, is simply to advance whatever the President
wants on any bill, under any circumstances, on any matter.
And he said that the changes that were agreed to
really were just some minor modifications, not a huge thing. Well,
it is a huge thing. One of the things that
(02:48):
the Chair of the committee said. The Republicans who criticize
the measure noted that the bill's new spending and tax cuts,
and that's what it's about, tax cuts, making permanent some
temporary tax cuts. Tax cut not taxing tips, for example,
or over time, which I find incredible because if tips
are part of your income, does that mean that servers
(03:11):
are getting a break on that and they're not paying
taxes on part of their income. Gee, I'd love that
to happen on my income. And it's one of those
that the tax cuts are front loaded, the measures to
offset the costs are backloaded. And he said, we're not
going to we can't do it, we can't sustain it.
(03:34):
And it primarily extends that income tax cut, adds temporary
new ones, including the no tax on tips, overtime pay,
auto loan interest payments. Oh man, it's an insane amount
of money that is going to be spent, that is
going to be cut at the same time on entitlement programs,
(03:58):
that means social programs. And that's simply the way Trump
wants it. Now, Mike, I love this. Okay, what do
they call this act?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Usually it's the Citizens Tax Cut to make Americans greater
and whatever. You know, they always have some kind of
BS name for the tax cut. This is called the
One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Gee, I wonder where they
(04:29):
got that name. I'm surprised that this isn't called the
Joe Biden was the worst president in the history of
the United States Act or Donald Trump should be elected
to a third Trump to a third term Act. I
mean it is, and I said earlier, this is a
bill that finally, at the last leg went through the
(04:52):
ugly forest and got hit with a few branches, and
they have to come back right. Proposed changes to medicated
food is distance program, rolling back of clean energy tax credits,
whichever way you want to look at it, and also
propose tripling the ten thousand dollars cap on the state
and local tax deduction, increasing it from ten thousand to
(05:14):
thirty thousand. Because one of the things Trump did, a
man who believes in tax deduction, tax deductions and not
paying taxes says, when it comes to blue states, how
do we get blue state voters to really suffer for
not electing Donald Trump, not voting for Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Tell you what we do, institute something called.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Salt where heretofore deductions on property taxes were given by
the government. In other words, you could deduct property taxes
against income tax. Same thing on income tax that you pay,
you can deduct that. And what Trump did was say, okay,
(05:57):
ten thousand dollars income tax done, ten thousand dollars max
on income tax, state income tax, ten thousand dollars max
on property tax.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Who is a hit the worst? Well, how about states
that have the highest state income tax? So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
How about California. How about states that have the highest
property tax? Oh, I don't know, California. The big beautiful
Joe Biden was the worst president in the history of
the United States Act. Okay, we're done with that one.
By the way, refute this please. We talked about this
(06:34):
one before. This is a show, well not quite this one.
You've heard commercials here on KFI Christy Nome, Department of
Homeland Security talking about illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
You go home, or we're going to arrest you. We're
going to throw you out.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
There is a new show that DHS is considering. You
couldn't make this up. You can't make this stuff up.
Every day it's here every day. It's absolutely insane. Here's
another one coming right up, a new reality show bill
handle here.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It is a Monday morning, May nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We start another week, and oh, summertime is just about here,
pretty close.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
We're getting into some very nice weather.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You've been hearing commercial by Christy Nome, who is Secretary
of Homeland Security here on KFI, and the government has
bought a bunch of other stations and outlets to hear
her worn illegal aliens, undocumented people get the hell out
of Dodge and describing a couple of incidents in which
some horrific incidents where people who were illegal committed these
(07:42):
insane crimes as in broad brush. You know, therefore, these
three or these four incidents would not have happened if
nobody illegal were brought into the country. And then you
have also tens of thousands of citizens who also commit crimes.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And what are you to do about that? Well, we
got to do something, maybe take away their citizenship. Who
the hell knows? All right now.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
The government also gets involved in TV shows. Didn't know
if it didn't, well you probably didn't know that. And
usually their documentary shows following the border patrol, for example,
or following the army, or I just saw a documentary
on Air Force One. The federal government allowed that to
(08:28):
happen the Secret Service. This one is a little bit different,
and I think it comes from President's Trump background as
an insanely successful reality show star, which helped a lot
for his political career The Apprentice, and he just likes
reality shows. So the Department of Homeland Security is considering
(08:50):
taking part in a TV show where immigrants go through
a series of challenges to get American citizenship. There it
would be based on various Americans traditions and customs, that's
spokeswoman for the agency said, and the department is still
(09:10):
reviewing the idea. A pitch by a producer named Rob Worsof,
the spokesperson this woman said the pitch generally was a
celebration of being an American and what a privilege it
is to be able to be a citizen of the
United States of America.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And it's important to revive civic duty.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Oh buy that, and the agency is happy to review
out of box pitches, particularly those.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That celebrate what it means to be an American. Now, boy,
this is.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
About it out of box as you could possibly get.
Worsof is a forty nine year old Canadian American. He
thought of this idea when he was being.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Naturalized, so he said, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Immigrants in the show would compete for challenges in various states.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
One challenge, for example, could be highlighting.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
NASA in Texas or Florida and seeing which immigrant could
assemble and launch rocket first, and if you can do
it first or a shoot off a rocket the highest,
then you win. And there's also trivia or civic challenges.
And the show ends with someone being sworn in.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
As a US citizen. Now there are some parameters here.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
No one is going to be penalized in their immigration
process or deported as a result.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Too bad that this isn't Hunger Games for immigration.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That the survivor gets to be an American citizen, which
actually is pretty close when you look at Hungry Games.
If you remember that movie, it was pretty damn close.
Jennifer Lawrence, I think, well, will this be to the death?
I don't know, that's the whole point I'm making. Will
it be to the death? So I'm thinking, what could
(10:52):
they do now?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The people will become American citizens.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I will tell you any federal judge, well, first of all,
any state judge will tell you, the highlight of any
career in being a judge is granting adoptions. They just
love that. For a federal judge, the highlight of their
career is swearing in new American citizens. Everyone will tell
(11:18):
you have a room full of people from all over
the world holding American flags and they're all being sworn in,
and you can see the smile on their faces, the crying.
It's an extraordinary thing. I remember when I was eleven
when I was sworn in with my parents. I'll never
(11:38):
forget that day and how tears coming down their face
and it was tremendous. So it is a big deal
to become an American citizen.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So imagine this.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You have someone who is undocumented the chance to become
an American citizen, and all they have to do is
very It's almost like survivor versus It's based on the survivor.
Think about that, going who can best go through a
(12:12):
a fence, a barbed wire fence, a race from Border
patrol agents.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Then they vote them off Ellis Island.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
This idea hot dog eating contests or yeah, apple pie.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well here it is. How about this how about this.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You've got a bunch of Muslims who can eat the
most pork hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean, you can really make this as entertaining.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
By the way, does that sound crazy any crazier than
this idea?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Oh? Tell me you. I'm sorry I lost you. You
clucked out?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I said, tell me you wouldn't watch it all?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Are you kidding? I would watch this a heartbeat all right?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Uh? Yeah, Well it's just terrific.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I mean, I love this idea.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Can you imagine any other administration looking at this as
opposed to just laughing in someone's face and saying no,
and the story disappears.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The story just disappears.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
But you have a big statue of Trump with cameras
in his eyes, and he looks at everybody and watches.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And this could be this could be big doings.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You could do a lot with this. You could do
a whole lot only today.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know what, It would be a one for one
we we could they you put them up and getst
an American that we don't want here, and then if
they lose, the American has to go to whatever country
the person came from. So it's like a swap.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's like wife swap. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, So whatever idea you can come up with, nothing
crazier than what they have here. Nothing that's how unbelievably
and how terrifically entertaining all of this is all right,
coming up, here's a question. And Pope Leo is an
American citizen. You know that the rules of being an
American citizen is American citizens have to file taxes.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Doesn't matter where you live.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Does Pope Leo have to file income taxes? I'll explain
that story because there's a few wrinkles to this some
of the big stories.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We are looking at a lot of news coming into
our morning show this morning.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Former President Biden has been diagnosed with an aggressive form
of prostate cancer that has spread to his bones. It's
potastasized now for what we're told from his doctor is
that it is treatable and it doesn't look like he's
gonna die in two weeks or five weeks or whatever.
(14:47):
But still it's pretty serious stuff. And have we gotten
the news yet the heather whether Trump and Putin have
been on the phone talking about the war in Ukraine.
They were scheduled o'clock time, okay, seven am, our time?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
All right, Well, I mean, we think you'd be hearing.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It, uh, you know from CNN and watching CNN and BBC,
and of course of a yeah, because they would have
announced that it is happening now and they have not
yet done that.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Okay, Uh, this is a fun one.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah. And we do such serious stuff all the time.
I occasionally love to have fun. Uh. There's a rule
with the IRS. If you are an American citizen, the
IRS does not care where you live and where you
earn money. You get to pay US taxes and you
have to file a tax return.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's that simple.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Pop Leo is an American citizen even though he has
not lived in the United States for decades, Does he
have to file income tax?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Does he have to file on an income tax return? Ah?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That gets a little bit complicated depending on the order
of which he is assigned to. Now you can have
a pope who's a Jesuit. You can have a pope
who is another order and he is part of the
what is it, how does it pronounced? The Order of
(16:17):
Saint Augustine. And priests can make money.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They can depending on which order they're with. And there
are people that leave priests money.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, there are people you know very religious people
that are fairly wealthy and leave money and property to
the church.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Some leave them to.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Particular priests, particular clergy people that they have a long
relationship with. And so is he going to file income
tax even if he doesn't have to, he should, And
I'll tell you the reason. You're gonna go, ah, yeah,
that makes sense. Okay, let's start with the fact he
is a member of the Order of Saint Augustine.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Still is all right? He entered that when he was
in his twenties.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They take the strictest vow of poverty, known as the
Solemn Vow. The night before they join the Order as
full members, they sign a document renouncing their right to
own property of any kind and turn all of their
private goods and any income they receive to the Order.
(17:28):
Now there are teachers who are members of the Order
of Saint Augustine who get a salary, but the salary
goes to the Order. The salary goes to their particular
order that they belong to, and so he makes no
income whatsoever. So therefore he is exempt. If an Augustinian
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receives a gift or other income, he relinquishes that as well.
When Leo became a cardinal, the Knight be he became
a cardinal, he actually had some money. Now, he was
very popular in Peru and he was gifted with property
and substantial money, which he turned over immediately. In addition,
(18:19):
members of Saint Augustine, and we're talking about a member
Americans don't pay into Medicare, don't pay into Social Security. Instead,
the Order pays all their medical expenses and pays whatever
they need food, etc. And when they retire, so they
don't file individual US tax returns. And there is no
(18:41):
record of Leo ever filing a tax return. Now, the
IRS has pursued and won cases involving vows of poverty.
When you have a clergyman saying I am poor. I
don't receive any money to go. Oh, yes you do.
In the case of Leo, do they move forward now
(19:05):
that he's pope, does he file an income tax return? Well,
technically speaking, and maybe more than technically speaking, he doesn't
have to because he makes absolutely no income whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And if you are an ex pat and you live overseas.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Unless there is a treaty between the United States and
other countries, you could get hit with a double tax.
That's no fun. Now most countries whatever income tax. Let's say,
as you know, I've been talking about living in Italy
after I retire for a period of time, I'll be
there and I'll be bi coastal is what I want
to do. And well, I still be earning money in Italy. Yeah,
(19:46):
I'll probably be doing handle on the law. I'll still
probably be doing commercials. I'll still be filling in so
I'll be making an income. So I have to pay
Italian income tax. However, I can take that off of Well,
let's say I owe fu thousand dollars in or Italian
tax and I owe twenty thousand dollars an American tax. Well,
(20:07):
I can offset that, so I pay five grand in
Italy and I pay fifteen.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Thousand dollars in the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So it's sort of even Stephen, But unless I have
I live in a country that doesn't have a treaty, Well,
Italy does have a treaty with the United States. He
now lives in Italy, but he makes absolutely no money,
none whatsoever, So why should he file a tax return?
(20:35):
Tax experts are saying, yes, why is that because of
fraud and identity theft? That's why, because you have a
birth certificate. A guy who hasn't filed, and all of
a sudden someone steals his identity, begins filing asks for
(20:59):
fraudut returns, and can you imagine Pope Leo the fourteenth
being a victim of identity fraud, which if you look
at algorithms that do this, there may actually be a
decent chance that that would happen.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Boy, tell me, that's not a story. Huh. So he
probably won't be filing. And it's kind of interesting stuff.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So the suggestion is, even if you make no money,
or you make and you don't have to if you
make less than I think sixteen thousand dollars a year,
you don't have to file. Okay, coming up the Palm
Springs clinic bomber, the IVF clinic that was bombed.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'm gonna tell you a little bit about it.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
One part of it is it is not a huge story,
big picture, But the other part of it is just fascinating.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Wow, I didn't know this stuff was a thing. Hey,
come Friday, as hopefully.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
You know by now thirty, right after Foody Friday with
Neo from eight Day thirty at eight thirty, we do
two segments Ask Handle Anything where I answer personal questions
because some people have been asking them for a very
long time, so I thought, sure, why not, let's do
it on the show, and this past Friday with some
really interesting ones because I'm pretty honest about it. You know,
(22:21):
my background, what's going on, Yeah, you know, because people
are interested, but they're interested in anybody. I'm interested in
what Cole Built has to say or Tim Conway, what's
he like?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So anyway, ask Candle anything during the course of the show.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Here's how it works.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You go to the iHeartRadio app, click onto KFI a
microphone in the upper right hand corner, Click onto that,
and you have fifteen seconds to record a question. I
don't want to hear your opinion on anything, but a
question involving what I do, my feelings about the show,
what we do, any personal question, and I get some
really personal questions. And I'm pretty open about him, so
(22:57):
that's kind of fun. Ask Handle Anything during the course
of the show. You go to the iHeartRadio app. Now, boy,
this was news all over the country and it had
to do with palm springs, which usually doesn't give us
a lot of news, and that is guy Edward Barkis
is suspected when on he did it, being the Palm
(23:18):
Springs clinic, bomber and IVF clinic that he blew up
with a car bomb. And I mean it was a
car bomb. It was a car loaded with explosives. He
drew up next to the clinic and it just they're
still looking for his pieces.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
There was not much left.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
He took the concept of finger sandwiches to a whole
different level. And the authority said, you talk about a
statement being made, now, I want to make a point here.
It is a personal statement. I know that there was
talk and I was called over the weekend a couple
of times. Do I go on some of the weekend
shows because I was in the infertility business and this
(24:03):
is an IVF clinic and talk about security and you know,
was I frightened when I was in the business.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
No, No, this.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Is not an abortion clinic that has deep political connotations
and deep moral connotations where that is a big deal.
This is a fruitcake that decided he wants to blow
up an IVF clinic. And it's been a very very
long time since IVF is considered a thing, and originally
(24:35):
and when I first started in the world of infertility,
IVF was fairly controversial, especially among religious folks. If you know,
you shouldn't play God and you shouldn't get involved in
creating children.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Only God should do that. Well, you know there's that concept.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
If God intended you to write on trains, he would
have given you steel wheel wheels. Come on, guys, give
me a break. So that disappeared fairly quickly. So IVF
is considered just just a normal part of medical practice
to help infertile couple have kids. So the reason I'm
bringing this up because it is not a big deal
(25:12):
societally speaking, and he's the only one that died, which
is kind of neat.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Although a couple of people were seriously.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Injured, and that is, he left behind a manifesto and
they went he didn't specifically leave it behind. They went
to his social media and a it was done anonymously,
but they know who did it, and that was him,
And the site began. You can download the recorded stream
(25:39):
of my suicide. Theoretically he was going to stream it.
He didn't of my suicide and bombing of an IVF clinic.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
There isn't any file that exists.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
However, the site does talk about philosophies, and this is
the fun part of the story. I had no idea
there were these philosophies. Basically, he was against people having children.
That was what his philosophy was. And he talked about
abolitionist veganism. What the hell is that. It's the opposition
(26:13):
to all animal use by humans. I'm assuming even keeping
animals as pets all animal use negative utilitarianism.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
We should act to minimize suffering rather than maximize pleasure
in the world. Okay, So if you happen to be
if you're one of those people that plays with yourself,
you should be thinking not about how much pleasure you
receive or when you have sex. It's about how you
(26:47):
minimize suffering in the world. Okay, that works. Pro mortalism,
it is best for sentient beings.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That's people who think us.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
To die as soon as possible to prevent future suffering.
Now there's a little bit of a spin there that
makes sense, a little tiny bit, and that is today
there's a growing number of people who are not having
children for a bunch of reasons, one of them being
(27:21):
do you want to bring kids into this world with
the fact that climate change is upon us. We're going
to live the polarization is going on. We know they're
going to be water wars because they're a limited amount
of water and we go through massive periods of drought
in certain parts of the world read southern California. We
know there are cyber wars. It's not going to be
(27:41):
a fun place to live. And a lot of people
are saying, shouldn't bring kids in the world. I feel
that way, not so much because of that, but because
I had my two daughters and if I had to
do it over again, eh, you know what, I don't
know if I would do it. Frankly, I was having
that conversation last week with Pamela. She goes, thanks, Dad
(28:02):
really appreciated.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well. I think most of us agree with you that
you shouldn't have brought children into this world.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
And there is a whole legal premise on that. There's
been a couple of.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Lawsuits wrongful wrongful life lawsuits not wrongful dab yep, yep,
that is a whole.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Thing as a matter of fact, should we do that?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Wrongful life?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
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