May 19, 2025 • 30 mins
(May 19,2025)
Inside Kamala Harris’ deliberations over her political future. 9 federally funded scientific breakthroughs that changed everything. College boom towns go bust as enrollment declines and vatters local economies. Officers are winning massive payouts in ‘LAPD lottery’ lawsuits.
Inside Kamala Harris’ deliberations over her political future. 9 federally funded scientific breakthroughs that changed everything. College boom towns go bust as enrollment declines and vatters local economies. Officers are winning massive payouts in ‘LAPD lottery’ lawsuits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is Monday, May nineteenth. A lot going on, I
mean right now. First of all, the Putin Trump phone
call is happening as we speak. They are talking to
each other, and this is the call relating to the
war in Ukraine and hopefully stopping it. And President Trump
said unless he gets involved with Putin and they have
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a one on one, the war will not stop.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
He may be absolutely be right. By the way, Putin is.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Not going to cave in to Zelenski. That's not going
to happen. Now, does Putin cave in to President Trump?
Because Trump has the power in the United States, has
the power to invoke all kinds of sanctions and make
it difficult for Russia to deal with not only just
the United States, but dealing with other countries dealing with
Russia and making it very difficult. So that conversation is
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going on right this second. And I believe Trump and
Putin agree that Zelensky Ukraine will have nothing to do
with whatever peace talks. They'll figure it out between the
two of them. And maybe after this phone call there
was going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
A press conference.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Now I just did a story about guy Edward Bartkis,
the guy who blew up the IVF clinic in paul
And Springs, and how crazy he is or was until
he blew himself up. I don't know if that was yeah,
he tried to like, yeah, he said he was going
to he was going to commit suicide. And one of
the reasons he blew up the IVF clinic was to
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make sure that kids are not born because of some
crazy philosophy that he has, that we as human beings
have the duty not to have children and to die
as soon as possible, to say, future generations from suffering.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay, that's not crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And then I spun off and Neil went what And
I started talking about the concept of wrong life, not
wrongful death, wrongful life. And this is one of the
things I talked about when I taught law school for
three years. I know, that's hard to believe that I
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was Professor Handel at law school teaching of course, in
third party reproductive law. Oooh handle, how could you possibly
do that? And did the students love me? I don't know.
I was so high when I did it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I have no idea. That was part of my cocaine life.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In any case, there were lawsuits filed, and this is
the world of IVF when the IVF clinics screwed up
and kids were born with serious anomalies.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They were born. For example, genetic testing that was done among.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Jews Ashkarashi Jews, where it turned out the kid they
missed the test for Tasachs disease. They could have they
could have, in fact figured out that the parents were
transmitters of Tasaks disease and therefore the kid the parents
went ahead, did the IVF and the genetic testing.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
They just screwed up.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It was negligence and so you've got wrongful death, maybe
especially since Tasas is a disease which is basically one
hundred percent fatal and kids die by the age of
five or six years of age, and it's horrific, just horrific.
So there were lawsuits filed on behalf of kids arguing
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wrongful life, saying I should never have been born and
because of your negligence, I was born with this horrific
disease syndrome where I'm going to die and die of
painful death and it is your fault and I'm far
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better off not having been born wrongful life, and there
were lawsuits that were filed, and boy to, the courts
had a time with that because one there was negligence
on the part of the IVF clinics. They did miss
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the genetic testing, either didn't do it or did it
wrong where Heretofore, the parents would say, of course I
would never have children.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
That would be my case.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know, I'm a Ashkenazi Jew, as is Marjorie. And
we did genetic testing, of course, and didn't carry the
tas As syndrome, didn't carry the disease the gene. Now,
there were actually there were families on our street because
we live in an author We lived in an Orthodox
neighborhood for a period of time that the kids had
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tays acts and those kids died horribly. And it is
a rough, rough disease. And so the children are arguing,
I should never have been born. I'm better off not
having been born than being born because of your negligence.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Wrongfull life. So Neil.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This also gets into religion because the courts looked at
the religious aspects of this too. And I know, I'm
just throwing this at you. Which way do you think
the courts went on this?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's tough one not knowing the law. But there is
no law. There is no law.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It was something that the courts had never seen before.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Plenty of law and wrong plenty of law and rightful
wrongful death, not on wrongful life.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't know how you can argue wrongful life. I
don't know how you can argue it, because, yes, because
anybody can have a problem, and just because we have
the technology to force see certain aspects of it.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I don't know that that gives us.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You and I understand, But that's wrongful death.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's the parents arguing wrongful death.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This is the kid arguing straight out I would be
better off not having been born than having been born
with seed.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So someone's having to argue it on their behalf, right.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh yeah, I mean that's a given that happens with
any that happens with I don't know, I know, I know,
I get that, But the argument, the argument still goes,
because people file lawsuits on behalf of children all the time,
they have to.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Throw it out.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I think they with you didn't ask me, but I
think they sided with the kids wrongful life. Okay, uh,
And I don't know if you're listening, because I know
you're hard at work. She's not listening and kno, you
don't even understand anything I'm saying. Conou No, he's paying
not paying attention either. Uh, and Will's not paying attention.
So this is Neil and I. So we've got uh,
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we've got Heather saying the kids are right, wrongful life,
You're we're better off having not been born.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
There's no way you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Could argue that because anybody could say that if they
have a bad I know.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But this, but anybody can say you made a mistake
and you cause the injury to me when there are other.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Aspects, they have to throw it out. Okay, and you
are absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And I'll tell you why the courts didn't even get
into the basic tenants of the lawsuit because the court said,
this is a completely metaphysical discussion.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
This is the discussion way beyond anything the courts should
or have to deal with the argument of you're better
off not having been born than being born.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Can I tell you something.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Being the producer of Jesus Christ Show, we deal with
this very topic. And the concept is you can't say
something is morally better to not have been because there
is no moral value to nothing. So if a child
didn't exist, doesn't have moral value even if a child does.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, but you know, the court, the court didn't get
into that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's a religious argument. The court said, yeah, the court said,
this is way beyond our means that we are not
going to get into the argument I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Better off now not having been here than being here.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I would argue the same thing by the way, I
would give it to the kid. And are you you
are better off not happy to suffer this horrific disease
and death? And I mean, well that's a different story.
But yeah, no, I get that. I mean there's a
lot there's a lawsuit, yes, it would be. There's a
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lawsuit against the IVF clinic. I almost sued the IVF
clinic that did our kids, and I went almost went
to court. And what is your legal argument, mister handle,
I go talk to my kids. Okay, we're done. That
was That's a fun, fun legal slash moral slash religious
argument that we can have.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
All right, coming up, here's another one.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
As you know, the federal government is yanking federal funding
of research projects that is sort of gone. Harvard is
being yanked of two billion dollars. Columbia is being yanked
of research money. And what I want to do is
go through some federally funded scientific breakthroughs.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That but for federal money, would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And there's some fun ones too, and there's some ones
where you go.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'll colligate it to that when we come up.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
When we come back, it is a Monday morning, May nineteenth.
Oh man, what kind of news we have coming into
the show today. First of all, the President and Vladimir
Putin are in a phone conversation right now, as the
President had announced a few days ago that today there
would be a phone call between the two and the
topic is the war in Ukraine. And the President said,
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and I think rightly so that if he doesn't get involved,
there's not going to be any kind of an agreement.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Interestingly enough, Zelensky has nothing to do with this.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
This is Russia and the United States.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Who's translating this time? Is it? Do we bring our
own or yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Everybody brings their own translator, everybody, And just it was
weird the last time when it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It was just very strange.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I would be surprised if a translator didn't wasn't
on the line translating, which each side and need said
bring their own translator. So also, the big beautiful tax
bill has been passed in committee with some changes. Because
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of the massive tax cuts that are going to that
are going to be extended Trump's temporary tax cuts, new
ones are being added, and at the same time there
are going to be some pretty strong additional dollars for
border security and defense, and all kinds of money in
terms of entitlement programs, social programs, food, housing support, education, science,
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research has been cut like and then one of the
topics I was just reading about this this morning. One
of the cuts been an issue. You know that cuts
have been made nih National Institute of Health. It has
cut all kinds of federal money. Grants Harvard has been
cut two billion dollars, but that was political, but at
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the same time it was research money that was cut.
And the same thing with Columbia and other schools. Trumpet said,
if you do not undo wokeness and let us oversee
how you teach, you're not going to get federal money.
And that's exactly what's happening. And Harvard, of course is
screaming back and fighting it. So there's a program and
this was what brought this to mind, this topic to mind,
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and that is there was a program where the US government,
through the UN funded to the tune of one hundred
and thirty one million dollars to eradicate or try to
eradicate polio, to provide vaccines, polio vaccines to third world countries.
That was just cut because I guess that is a
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waste of money. And so when we talk about federally
funded projects, well, let me give you one that's reasonably
important polio.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
How about that one.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That was in a great part funded by the federal government.
It also started you don't want to start it, by
the way, just real quickly, polio. It actually the fight
against polio started in the thirties with Franklin Roosevelt, who
suffered from polio.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know, he was he didn't have use of his
legs because he had polio.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think he was thirty at the time. And polio
is one of those crazy diseases where you literally go
to bed at night and you wake up at the
morning you're paralyzed, and usually catch it in swimming pool.
So what he did is start the March of Dimes
where school kids all over the country would put dimes
into these little boxes. And then that we be forward
to polio research, and the federal government gave a lot
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of money.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
For polio research.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Also, the vaccine, not only the test for AIDS, but
the vaccine for AIDS was for the most part federally funded.
And you have to give credit to President Trump for that.
He threw two billion dollars of federal money into looking
for the vaccine, not for AIDS, excuse me, for the
vaccine for COVID. In addition, AIDS vaccine was funded to
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a great part by federal money. These were federal grants
that were given the universities and given to various organizations
that were usually associated with universities that we're doing research,
specific professors, doctors associated with the university, researching the vaccine, researching, testing, researching,
trying to understand how these diseases have been created, where
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they came from, how to deal with them. Usually it
starts with testing, and then it starts with developing a vaccine.
And that's what happened both with AIDS as well as
with COVID.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And that's simply the way it works.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So I thought we would do is look at some
of the federal funding of things that we deal with
every single day, and.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But for federal money being involved, we.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Wouldn't have it because for the most part, federal money
in terms of research grants were given. So why don't
we start with GPS? I don't know, is that reasonably important?
The first commercial GPS unit was three thousand bucks and
it was a brick.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It was for hikers and boaters.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And that came out in nineteen eighty eight. Today, of course,
how do you live without GPS? My kids, if they're
a block and a half from their house and their
ways or Google Map goes out, they're lost a block
from the house. You remember we used to drive with
those Thomas Brothers maps. Huh, those are gone. So the
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way GPS started was long, indirect, paved with federal money
all over the place. Nineteen fifty seven to research, to
John Hopkins realize they could pinpoint the whereabouts of Sputnik.
Nineteen fifty seven, first satellite in the world goes up,
and that's a Russian satellite, Sputnik, and they were trying
to figure out how to track it. And so if
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a receiver on Earth can track a moving satellite, why
can't a satellite track a lost receiver on Earth where
it's unknown. It's just the reverse, and that idea the
next year became Transit Navigational System for tracking nuclear subs
all federal money, and in nineteen eighty three commercial airlines
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were authorized to use it, which required newer satellites to
tommy clocks. All of it federally funded, and research at
the National Institute of Standards in Technology and the Naval
Research Laboratory all had government contracts companies like Rockwell, General
Dynamics and Boeing, And out of that came GPS federal money,
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which would not have happened in today's world. I'm going
to come back and talk about a few other ones,
and then ones that are so important. You go, how
could we have possibly lived without that?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Especially one I can.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Think of more important than the polio vaccine I want
to point out. All right, let's check in with Heather.
I want to say Amy, Amy's back tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yes, you can say hell. Oh by the way, Heather, yeah,
I understand.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
With the top of the hour, you screwed up the
broadcast and you thought that I was going to come
on and you screwed it up.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I want to make a point. I want to make
a point here. Head.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Okay, one person is allowed to screw up like that
on this program.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And you're talking to him. I'm sorry, sir, Okay, it
won't again. Thank you. We'll be back. And before we
get to the topic, Neil, you have something to say.
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
Okay, got it. That part's done. I want to go
back to the segment we were doing. I want to
continue on and it has to do with federal money
being yanked for research grants, medical research, scientific research.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It is, I mean it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Money by the billion of dollars are being held back.
So I want to go through some of what we got,
some of the scientific breakthroughs medical as well as just
what we live with and products and services.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I just polio, that was important, right.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
The vaccine was developed with federal money, diabetes and obcit drugs,
diabetes drugs, insulin federal money, and then obesity drugs ozembic
and Wgovi and Monjaro, and it's a new blockbuster drugs
sort of the same family. And it's a great story
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federal money. And it was the study of a lizard.
In nineteen eighty, doctor Rothman, who was a researcher getting
federal money studying insect and redtile venoms at the NIH
National Institute of Health, discovered that venom from the Gila
monster has a pronounced effect on the pancreas and how
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it affected weight loss. How to do that because it
didn't have to eat for months and months and how
did it happen. Well, it's all federal money, and you
are losing weight and you are still alive on the diabetes.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I don't know which is more important. You figure it out.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The sign language dictionary, federal money, What is that about?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
William Stoke or Stoke, an English literature professor, went to Galadet.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
College, you know, the college for the deaf.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
In nineteen fifty five students were lip reading and trying
to speak aloud instead of using sign language, which was
dismissed as a crude, very basic.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Way to talk.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, doctor Stoke realized that's not true. This is good stuff.
So with the grants from the National Science Foundation, he
came up with the first dictionary.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I have a question, by the way, since he was English.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Uh, and the question is do English people who you
sign language do they sign with an English accent?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Okay, can you right now?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, it's one finger. How about bladeless laser surgery. That
was a mistake. That was a laboratory mistake. Laser surgery
with the laser bladeless, they didn't have to do the cutting.
That was a mistake. One of the students had a
real problem. Uh, it slipped as he was looking at
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a laser. It slipped, and uh the professor medical professor
took a look and said, there's no damage here, and
they out of that came the bladeless lasik using the
laser to do the cutting. Total mistake. Here's one that's
probably the most important one that.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I can think of. Okay, Uh. This had to do
during the Apollo years. NASA wanted to collect soil.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Samples from underneath the Moon's surface. So with federal money,
they cut a deal with Black and Decker to develop
a compact, lightweight, cordless drill, and out of that came
the dustbuster. There is nothing more important than a dustbuster
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in your home, created by research money from the Feds.
And we can go on and on and on and
in the end, and I have dozens of these, and
as I said, the big one that I'm really upset
about is at one hundred and thirty one million dollars.
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I think I said this at the either beginning of
segment or the end of last segment. One hundred and
thirty one million dollars that was given to the UN
as part of the poliarratigation pro in mainly Africa was yanked.
Federal money was used to help vaccine to vaccinate kids
in Africa not to get polio.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I mean, it's just so we have to do all
or nothing. Can't we cut out some of the stupid ones.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's exactly the point.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But land face out there is when you.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Look at when you really look at it, there is
a lot of waste.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
There is a lot of fraud going on.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I mean it's hard not to when you're talking about
you know, zillions of dollars being given in research money,
and there's some crazy ass programs out there that make
no sense or did make sense, and they morphed into
programs that make those sense. But when you have people
like Elaud Musk coming in with DOSEE and not just
taking a broom but taking a shot back and sweeping
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through all of these positions to sleeping sweeping through all
these programs, it is tough. It is tough, and you're right,
you know it's but that's not what this administration does.
It isn't all or nothing with this administration, and I
think it's going to hurt us big time. All Right,
We're going to finish up with something called the LAPD lottery,
these lottery lawsuits and what does that mean. Well, the
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cops who are winning big time with the LAPD lawsuits,
well tell you how they do it. It's easy and
and if you live in the City of the Angels,
you're getting nailed. We'll do that when we come back
and finish up the show. Handle here Monday morning, May nineteenth.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
As we finish up the show on.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
A Monday, with the stories we're looking at, I mean
some big ones. The President and Vladimir.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Putin are on the phone right now.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
The President has said he's going to be having a
phone conversation today with Putin regarding the war in Ukraine.
It's happening right now, and the President has said that
he is going to be involved, and if he isn't involved,
the war is not going to end. And I think
he's absolutely right. He is the one that can pressure
both sides, and I don't think anybody else can. And
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so we'll see which side he's on. Unfortunately, I believe
that he wants Zelenski to give up a lot of land,
and Zelensis says I can't. The constitution of Ukraine, Well,
it doesn't matter. But he's right about that, is the
President is right about that. Also, we got our big
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beautiful bill, tax bill in that's been passed in the
subcommittee and it's on its way to the floor. And
this has to do with the tax cuts that the
President not only is keeping ongoing temporary tax cuts now
being made permanent h and it in more tax cuts
are now being put on the table, including not taxing
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tips or over time it's or increasing the deductions that
he took away from homeowners and people will make a
lot of money in California.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So it's it's weird, it's going on. Well, it's not weird.
It's what he wanted and he's gonna get. He's gonna
get most of it. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
We're finishing up with what's happening in the LAPD and
this is called the LAPD lottery.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
These lawsuits, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, you have officers that are suing, and Police Chief
Jim McDonald said that some of these officers are weaponizing
the department's disciplinary system to settle grievances, leaving city taxpayers.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
On the hook for legal bills and settlements.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Last five years, city's paid out sixty eight million dollars,
which is no big deal when you talk about the
budget of the city over four years. But this number
is growing exponentially. And this is resolving loss of suits
by cops who said they're victims of sexual harassment, racial discrimination,
retaliation against whistleblowers, which by.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The way, is probably true.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
However, here's what happened, and this happens in lawsuits and
I have both I've.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Been a victim of this.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And if you have a cop who is really unhappy
and you go.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
To a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
There are lawyers who specialize in suing the police department,
and we'll look for discrimination, we'll look for harassment, and
argue this has happened to my client.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That's not to say that there aren't.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Some very legitimate ones, but knowing the legal system, being
a victim of a couple of these in my business,
having nothing to do with the LAPD, but my business.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Here's what happens.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
A lawsuit goes against any department or any business, and
usually it turned over the insurance company if you have insurance.
The city, i believe, is self insured, and the city
attorney's office in the case of the LAPD, sits down
and says, let's look at the numbers. Let's look at
the cost of litigation, let's look at the liability. How
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south can this go? So let's just write a check.
And sometimes it's over a million dollars. And there have
been lots of those. When I talk about sixty eight
million dollars, those are the cases that have settled that.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
There are dozens that are.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Now pending, and we're looking at a whole lot of
millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And this happened to me.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We had an employee who we let go because we
are downsizing our company, and she came back and sued
us for discrimination. And we turned it over the insurance
company and said, it's real simple. We're going to write
them a check, We're going to settle I go. How
can you do that? This is clearly, clearly a wrongful lawsuit,
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raw full claim that we know that we get lots
of these doesn't matter, and lawyers know this. Now. Occasionally
the insurance company or the company says, knock your socks off,
go to court.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And I've done that a couple of times and it
costs big money. But number one, you have to make
a point of it. Number Two, there's attorney fees on
the other side that we were able to get back.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But it's a thing. It really is a thing.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And the LAPD is caught up in this, as other
agencies are caught up with this, and they now have
hired a consultant to figure out how to deal with this.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Accountability.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
LAPD has a serious reputation for not being particularly accountable.
It was one of the worst departments in the country.
Now it is probably the best department in the country
in terms of accountability.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And over site.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So the LAPD lottery, the lottery lawsuits. All right, guys,
we are done. Uh what a day it is today.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Gary and Shannon the phone call between Putin and Trump
probably will end during their show. I mean it has to,
because it's been going on for about an hour, hour
and a half and we'll get some word of that,
and Gary and Shannon will report on that, no doubt.
And there's still plenty more to talk about. So I'm
back again tomorrow morning. I think Amy is back tomorrow
morning joining the show. So she's here with a wake
(29:34):
up call with Will Cole Schreiber.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I got it, I'll get you.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I always forget about you, and there's a reason for it,
and I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I'll come up with it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And then Neil and I come aboard from six to nine,
and of course and Kono always there making the show
runs on time, run on time, except not with me,
because the show never runs on time with me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But that's part of my contrac Catch it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is Monday, May nineteenth. A lot going on, I
mean right now. First of all, the Putin Trump phone
call is happening as we speak. They are talking to
each other, and this is the call relating to the
war in Ukraine and hopefully stopping it. And President Trump
said unless he gets involved with Putin and they have
(00:28):
a one on one, the war will not stop.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
He may be absolutely be right. By the way, Putin is.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Not going to cave in to Zelenski. That's not going
to happen. Now, does Putin cave in to President Trump?
Because Trump has the power in the United States, has
the power to invoke all kinds of sanctions and make
it difficult for Russia to deal with not only just
the United States, but dealing with other countries dealing with
Russia and making it very difficult. So that conversation is
(00:56):
going on right this second. And I believe Trump and
Putin agree that Zelensky Ukraine will have nothing to do
with whatever peace talks. They'll figure it out between the
two of them. And maybe after this phone call there
was going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
A press conference.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Now I just did a story about guy Edward Bartkis,
the guy who blew up the IVF clinic in paul
And Springs, and how crazy he is or was until
he blew himself up. I don't know if that was yeah,
he tried to like, yeah, he said he was going
to he was going to commit suicide. And one of
the reasons he blew up the IVF clinic was to
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make sure that kids are not born because of some
crazy philosophy that he has, that we as human beings
have the duty not to have children and to die
as soon as possible, to say, future generations from suffering.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay, that's not crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And then I spun off and Neil went what And
I started talking about the concept of wrong life, not
wrongful death, wrongful life. And this is one of the
things I talked about when I taught law school for
three years. I know, that's hard to believe that I
(02:13):
was Professor Handel at law school teaching of course, in
third party reproductive law. Oooh handle, how could you possibly
do that? And did the students love me? I don't know.
I was so high when I did it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I have no idea. That was part of my cocaine life.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
In any case, there were lawsuits filed, and this is
the world of IVF when the IVF clinics screwed up
and kids were born with serious anomalies.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They were born. For example, genetic testing that was done among.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Jews Ashkarashi Jews, where it turned out the kid they
missed the test for Tasachs disease. They could have they
could have, in fact figured out that the parents were
transmitters of Tasaks disease and therefore the kid the parents
went ahead, did the IVF and the genetic testing.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
They just screwed up.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It was negligence and so you've got wrongful death, maybe
especially since Tasas is a disease which is basically one
hundred percent fatal and kids die by the age of
five or six years of age, and it's horrific, just horrific.
So there were lawsuits filed on behalf of kids arguing
(03:28):
wrongful life, saying I should never have been born and
because of your negligence, I was born with this horrific
disease syndrome where I'm going to die and die of
painful death and it is your fault and I'm far
(03:48):
better off not having been born wrongful life, and there
were lawsuits that were filed, and boy to, the courts
had a time with that because one there was negligence
on the part of the IVF clinics. They did miss
(04:09):
the genetic testing, either didn't do it or did it
wrong where Heretofore, the parents would say, of course I
would never have children.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
That would be my case.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know, I'm a Ashkenazi Jew, as is Marjorie. And
we did genetic testing, of course, and didn't carry the
tas As syndrome, didn't carry the disease the gene. Now,
there were actually there were families on our street because
we live in an author We lived in an Orthodox
neighborhood for a period of time that the kids had
(04:42):
tays acts and those kids died horribly. And it is
a rough, rough disease. And so the children are arguing,
I should never have been born. I'm better off not
having been born than being born because of your negligence.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Wrongfull life. So Neil.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This also gets into religion because the courts looked at
the religious aspects of this too. And I know, I'm
just throwing this at you. Which way do you think
the courts went on this?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's tough one not knowing the law. But there is
no law. There is no law.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It was something that the courts had never seen before.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Plenty of law and wrong plenty of law and rightful
wrongful death, not on wrongful life.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't know how you can argue wrongful life. I
don't know how you can argue it, because, yes, because
anybody can have a problem, and just because we have
the technology to force see certain aspects of it.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I don't know that that gives us.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You and I understand, But that's wrongful death.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's the parents arguing wrongful death.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This is the kid arguing straight out I would be
better off not having been born than having been born
with seed.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So someone's having to argue it on their behalf, right.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh yeah, I mean that's a given that happens with
any that happens with I don't know, I know, I know,
I get that, But the argument, the argument still goes,
because people file lawsuits on behalf of children all the time,
they have to.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Throw it out.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I think they with you didn't ask me, but I
think they sided with the kids wrongful life. Okay, uh,
And I don't know if you're listening, because I know
you're hard at work. She's not listening and kno, you
don't even understand anything I'm saying. Conou No, he's paying
not paying attention either. Uh, and Will's not paying attention.
So this is Neil and I. So we've got uh,
(06:40):
we've got Heather saying the kids are right, wrongful life,
You're we're better off having not been born.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
There's no way you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Could argue that because anybody could say that if they
have a bad I know.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
But this, but anybody can say you made a mistake
and you cause the injury to me when there are other.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Aspects, they have to throw it out. Okay, and you
are absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And I'll tell you why the courts didn't even get
into the basic tenants of the lawsuit because the court said,
this is a completely metaphysical discussion.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
This is the discussion way beyond anything the courts should
or have to deal with the argument of you're better
off not having been born than being born.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Can I tell you something.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Being the producer of Jesus Christ Show, we deal with
this very topic. And the concept is you can't say
something is morally better to not have been because there
is no moral value to nothing. So if a child
didn't exist, doesn't have moral value even if a child does.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, but you know, the court, the court didn't get
into that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's a religious argument. The court said, yeah, the court said,
this is way beyond our means that we are not
going to get into the argument I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Better off now not having been here than being here.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I would argue the same thing by the way, I
would give it to the kid. And are you you
are better off not happy to suffer this horrific disease
and death? And I mean, well that's a different story.
But yeah, no, I get that. I mean there's a
lot there's a lawsuit, yes, it would be. There's a
(08:26):
lawsuit against the IVF clinic. I almost sued the IVF
clinic that did our kids, and I went almost went
to court. And what is your legal argument, mister handle,
I go talk to my kids. Okay, we're done. That
was That's a fun, fun legal slash moral slash religious
argument that we can have.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
All right, coming up, here's another one.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
As you know, the federal government is yanking federal funding
of research projects that is sort of gone. Harvard is
being yanked of two billion dollars. Columbia is being yanked
of research money. And what I want to do is
go through some federally funded scientific breakthroughs.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That but for federal money, would not have happened.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And there's some fun ones too, and there's some ones
where you go.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'll colligate it to that when we come up.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
When we come back, it is a Monday morning, May nineteenth.
Oh man, what kind of news we have coming into
the show today. First of all, the President and Vladimir
Putin are in a phone conversation right now, as the
President had announced a few days ago that today there
would be a phone call between the two and the
topic is the war in Ukraine. And the President said,
(09:44):
and I think rightly so that if he doesn't get involved,
there's not going to be any kind of an agreement.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Interestingly enough, Zelensky has nothing to do with this.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
This is Russia and the United States.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Who's translating this time? Is it? Do we bring our
own or yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Everybody brings their own translator, everybody, And just it was
weird the last time when it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It was just very strange.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I would be surprised if a translator didn't wasn't
on the line translating, which each side and need said
bring their own translator. So also, the big beautiful tax
bill has been passed in committee with some changes. Because
(10:29):
of the massive tax cuts that are going to that
are going to be extended Trump's temporary tax cuts, new
ones are being added, and at the same time there
are going to be some pretty strong additional dollars for
border security and defense, and all kinds of money in
terms of entitlement programs, social programs, food, housing support, education, science,
(10:58):
research has been cut like and then one of the
topics I was just reading about this this morning. One
of the cuts been an issue. You know that cuts
have been made nih National Institute of Health. It has
cut all kinds of federal money. Grants Harvard has been
cut two billion dollars, but that was political, but at
(11:18):
the same time it was research money that was cut.
And the same thing with Columbia and other schools. Trumpet said,
if you do not undo wokeness and let us oversee
how you teach, you're not going to get federal money.
And that's exactly what's happening. And Harvard, of course is
screaming back and fighting it. So there's a program and
this was what brought this to mind, this topic to mind,
(11:39):
and that is there was a program where the US government,
through the UN funded to the tune of one hundred
and thirty one million dollars to eradicate or try to
eradicate polio, to provide vaccines, polio vaccines to third world countries.
That was just cut because I guess that is a
(12:01):
waste of money. And so when we talk about federally
funded projects, well, let me give you one that's reasonably
important polio.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
How about that one.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That was in a great part funded by the federal government.
It also started you don't want to start it, by
the way, just real quickly, polio. It actually the fight
against polio started in the thirties with Franklin Roosevelt, who
suffered from polio.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know, he was he didn't have use of his
legs because he had polio.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think he was thirty at the time. And polio
is one of those crazy diseases where you literally go
to bed at night and you wake up at the
morning you're paralyzed, and usually catch it in swimming pool.
So what he did is start the March of Dimes
where school kids all over the country would put dimes
into these little boxes. And then that we be forward
to polio research, and the federal government gave a lot
(12:57):
of money.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
For polio research.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Also, the vaccine, not only the test for AIDS, but
the vaccine for AIDS was for the most part federally funded.
And you have to give credit to President Trump for that.
He threw two billion dollars of federal money into looking
for the vaccine, not for AIDS, excuse me, for the
vaccine for COVID. In addition, AIDS vaccine was funded to
(13:27):
a great part by federal money. These were federal grants
that were given the universities and given to various organizations
that were usually associated with universities that we're doing research,
specific professors, doctors associated with the university, researching the vaccine, researching, testing, researching,
trying to understand how these diseases have been created, where
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they came from, how to deal with them. Usually it
starts with testing, and then it starts with developing a vaccine.
And that's what happened both with AIDS as well as
with COVID.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And that's simply the way it works.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So I thought we would do is look at some
of the federal funding of things that we deal with
every single day, and.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But for federal money being involved, we.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Wouldn't have it because for the most part, federal money
in terms of research grants were given. So why don't
we start with GPS? I don't know, is that reasonably important?
The first commercial GPS unit was three thousand bucks and
it was a brick.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It was for hikers and boaters.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And that came out in nineteen eighty eight. Today, of course,
how do you live without GPS? My kids, if they're
a block and a half from their house and their
ways or Google Map goes out, they're lost a block
from the house. You remember we used to drive with
those Thomas Brothers maps. Huh, those are gone. So the
(15:11):
way GPS started was long, indirect, paved with federal money
all over the place. Nineteen fifty seven to research, to
John Hopkins realize they could pinpoint the whereabouts of Sputnik.
Nineteen fifty seven, first satellite in the world goes up,
and that's a Russian satellite, Sputnik, and they were trying
to figure out how to track it. And so if
(15:36):
a receiver on Earth can track a moving satellite, why
can't a satellite track a lost receiver on Earth where
it's unknown. It's just the reverse, and that idea the
next year became Transit Navigational System for tracking nuclear subs
all federal money, and in nineteen eighty three commercial airlines
(15:59):
were authorized to use it, which required newer satellites to
tommy clocks. All of it federally funded, and research at
the National Institute of Standards in Technology and the Naval
Research Laboratory all had government contracts companies like Rockwell, General
Dynamics and Boeing, And out of that came GPS federal money,
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which would not have happened in today's world. I'm going
to come back and talk about a few other ones,
and then ones that are so important. You go, how
could we have possibly lived without that?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Especially one I can.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Think of more important than the polio vaccine I want
to point out. All right, let's check in with Heather.
I want to say Amy, Amy's back tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yes, you can say hell. Oh by the way, Heather, yeah,
I understand.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
With the top of the hour, you screwed up the
broadcast and you thought that I was going to come
on and you screwed it up.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I want to make a point. I want to make
a point here. Head.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Okay, one person is allowed to screw up like that
on this program.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And you're talking to him. I'm sorry, sir, Okay, it
won't again. Thank you. We'll be back. And before we
get to the topic, Neil, you have something to say.
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
Okay, got it. That part's done. I want to go
back to the segment we were doing. I want to
continue on and it has to do with federal money
being yanked for research grants, medical research, scientific research.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It is, I mean it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Money by the billion of dollars are being held back.
So I want to go through some of what we got,
some of the scientific breakthroughs medical as well as just
what we live with and products and services.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I just polio, that was important, right.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
The vaccine was developed with federal money, diabetes and obcit drugs,
diabetes drugs, insulin federal money, and then obesity drugs ozembic
and Wgovi and Monjaro, and it's a new blockbuster drugs
sort of the same family. And it's a great story
(18:40):
federal money. And it was the study of a lizard.
In nineteen eighty, doctor Rothman, who was a researcher getting
federal money studying insect and redtile venoms at the NIH
National Institute of Health, discovered that venom from the Gila
monster has a pronounced effect on the pancreas and how
(19:00):
it affected weight loss. How to do that because it
didn't have to eat for months and months and how
did it happen. Well, it's all federal money, and you
are losing weight and you are still alive on the diabetes.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I don't know which is more important. You figure it out.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The sign language dictionary, federal money, What is that about?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
William Stoke or Stoke, an English literature professor, went to Galadet.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
College, you know, the college for the deaf.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
In nineteen fifty five students were lip reading and trying
to speak aloud instead of using sign language, which was
dismissed as a crude, very basic.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Way to talk.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, doctor Stoke realized that's not true. This is good stuff.
So with the grants from the National Science Foundation, he
came up with the first dictionary.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I have a question, by the way, since he was English.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Uh, and the question is do English people who you
sign language do they sign with an English accent?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
And I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Okay, can you right now?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, it's one finger. How about bladeless laser surgery. That
was a mistake. That was a laboratory mistake. Laser surgery
with the laser bladeless, they didn't have to do the cutting.
That was a mistake. One of the students had a
real problem. Uh, it slipped as he was looking at
(20:38):
a laser. It slipped, and uh the professor medical professor
took a look and said, there's no damage here, and
they out of that came the bladeless lasik using the
laser to do the cutting. Total mistake. Here's one that's
probably the most important one that.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I can think of. Okay, Uh. This had to do
during the Apollo years. NASA wanted to collect soil.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Samples from underneath the Moon's surface. So with federal money,
they cut a deal with Black and Decker to develop
a compact, lightweight, cordless drill, and out of that came
the dustbuster. There is nothing more important than a dustbuster
(21:30):
in your home, created by research money from the Feds.
And we can go on and on and on and
in the end, and I have dozens of these, and
as I said, the big one that I'm really upset
about is at one hundred and thirty one million dollars.
(21:51):
I think I said this at the either beginning of
segment or the end of last segment. One hundred and
thirty one million dollars that was given to the UN
as part of the poliarratigation pro in mainly Africa was yanked.
Federal money was used to help vaccine to vaccinate kids
in Africa not to get polio.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I mean, it's just so we have to do all
or nothing. Can't we cut out some of the stupid ones.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's exactly the point.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
But land face out there is when you.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Look at when you really look at it, there is
a lot of waste.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
There is a lot of fraud going on.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I mean it's hard not to when you're talking about
you know, zillions of dollars being given in research money,
and there's some crazy ass programs out there that make
no sense or did make sense, and they morphed into
programs that make those sense. But when you have people
like Elaud Musk coming in with DOSEE and not just
taking a broom but taking a shot back and sweeping
(22:52):
through all of these positions to sleeping sweeping through all
these programs, it is tough. It is tough, and you're right,
you know it's but that's not what this administration does.
It isn't all or nothing with this administration, and I
think it's going to hurt us big time. All Right,
We're going to finish up with something called the LAPD lottery,
these lottery lawsuits and what does that mean. Well, the
(23:15):
cops who are winning big time with the LAPD lawsuits,
well tell you how they do it. It's easy and
and if you live in the City of the Angels,
you're getting nailed. We'll do that when we come back
and finish up the show. Handle here Monday morning, May nineteenth.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
As we finish up the show on.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
A Monday, with the stories we're looking at, I mean
some big ones. The President and Vladimir.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Putin are on the phone right now.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
The President has said he's going to be having a
phone conversation today with Putin regarding the war in Ukraine.
It's happening right now, and the President has said that
he is going to be involved, and if he isn't involved,
the war is not going to end. And I think
he's absolutely right. He is the one that can pressure
both sides, and I don't think anybody else can. And
(24:08):
so we'll see which side he's on. Unfortunately, I believe
that he wants Zelenski to give up a lot of land,
and Zelensis says I can't. The constitution of Ukraine, Well,
it doesn't matter. But he's right about that, is the
President is right about that. Also, we got our big
(24:28):
beautiful bill, tax bill in that's been passed in the
subcommittee and it's on its way to the floor. And
this has to do with the tax cuts that the
President not only is keeping ongoing temporary tax cuts now
being made permanent h and it in more tax cuts
are now being put on the table, including not taxing
(24:49):
tips or over time it's or increasing the deductions that
he took away from homeowners and people will make a
lot of money in California.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So it's it's weird, it's going on. Well, it's not weird.
It's what he wanted and he's gonna get. He's gonna
get most of it. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
We're finishing up with what's happening in the LAPD and
this is called the LAPD lottery.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
These lawsuits, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, you have officers that are suing, and Police Chief
Jim McDonald said that some of these officers are weaponizing
the department's disciplinary system to settle grievances, leaving city taxpayers.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
On the hook for legal bills and settlements.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Last five years, city's paid out sixty eight million dollars,
which is no big deal when you talk about the
budget of the city over four years. But this number
is growing exponentially. And this is resolving loss of suits
by cops who said they're victims of sexual harassment, racial discrimination,
retaliation against whistleblowers, which by.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The way, is probably true.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
However, here's what happened, and this happens in lawsuits and
I have both I've.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Been a victim of this.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And if you have a cop who is really unhappy
and you go.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
To a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
There are lawyers who specialize in suing the police department,
and we'll look for discrimination, we'll look for harassment, and
argue this has happened to my client.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That's not to say that there aren't.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Some very legitimate ones, but knowing the legal system, being
a victim of a couple of these in my business,
having nothing to do with the LAPD, but my business.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Here's what happens.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
A lawsuit goes against any department or any business, and
usually it turned over the insurance company if you have insurance.
The city, i believe, is self insured, and the city
attorney's office in the case of the LAPD, sits down
and says, let's look at the numbers. Let's look at
the cost of litigation, let's look at the liability. How
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south can this go? So let's just write a check.
And sometimes it's over a million dollars. And there have
been lots of those. When I talk about sixty eight
million dollars, those are the cases that have settled that.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
There are dozens that are.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Now pending, and we're looking at a whole lot of
millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And this happened to me.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We had an employee who we let go because we
are downsizing our company, and she came back and sued
us for discrimination. And we turned it over the insurance
company and said, it's real simple. We're going to write
them a check, We're going to settle I go. How
can you do that? This is clearly, clearly a wrongful lawsuit,
(28:02):
raw full claim that we know that we get lots
of these doesn't matter, and lawyers know this. Now. Occasionally
the insurance company or the company says, knock your socks off,
go to court.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And I've done that a couple of times and it
costs big money. But number one, you have to make
a point of it. Number Two, there's attorney fees on
the other side that we were able to get back.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But it's a thing. It really is a thing.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
And the LAPD is caught up in this, as other
agencies are caught up with this, and they now have
hired a consultant to figure out how to deal with this.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Accountability.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
LAPD has a serious reputation for not being particularly accountable.
It was one of the worst departments in the country.
Now it is probably the best department in the country
in terms of accountability.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And over site.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So the LAPD lottery, the lottery lawsuits. All right, guys,
we are done. Uh what a day it is today.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Gary and Shannon the phone call between Putin and Trump
probably will end during their show. I mean it has to,
because it's been going on for about an hour, hour
and a half and we'll get some word of that,
and Gary and Shannon will report on that, no doubt.
And there's still plenty more to talk about. So I'm
back again tomorrow morning. I think Amy is back tomorrow
morning joining the show. So she's here with a wake
(29:34):
up call with Will Cole Schreiber.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I got it, I'll get you.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I always forget about you, and there's a reason for it,
and I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I'll come up with it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And then Neil and I come aboard from six to nine,
and of course and Kono always there making the show
runs on time, run on time, except not with me,
because the show never runs on time with me.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But that's part of my contrac Catch it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
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