May 23, 2025 • 30 mins
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Senate votes to overturn California’s ban on new gas-only vehicles. Trump and Biden agreed to downgrade marijuana… it never happened and now potheads are pissed. ‘Success from Scratch’ is back where Bill highlights small businesses from how they started to where they are today. Today, Bill talks with Stephen Cloobeck, the former CEO of Diamond Resorts International. California’s earthquake retrofit grants canceled.
Senate votes to overturn California’s ban on new gas-only vehicles. Trump and Biden agreed to downgrade marijuana… it never happened and now potheads are pissed. ‘Success from Scratch’ is back where Bill highlights small businesses from how they started to where they are today. Today, Bill talks with Stephen Cloobeck, the former CEO of Diamond Resorts International. California’s earthquake retrofit grants canceled.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty KFI Handle.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here it is a foody Friday, May twenty three. We're
looking at a bunch of stories, a lot of stuff
in the world of politics. Federal judge blocked the Trump
administration from attempting to dismantle the Department of Education. There
was a lawsuit and the judge said, yeah, yeah, you
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can't do that. You can't just arbitrarily do that because
Congress established the Department.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Of Education, and so the defenders of the.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
President, the representative said oh no, no, no, no, this is
nothing with dismantling. All we're trying to do is make
it more efficient. And the court said, yeah, well, how
about the word dismantling that the President as well as
the Secretary of the Department of Education used.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Exactly. That was the response.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
All right, We know California is been at the front,
forefront of the clean air movement, on the political front,
on the governmental front.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And we have a.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Law that was actually enacted in twenty twenty two, the
Advanced Clean Cars to Rule, and it was enacted by
the California Air Resources Board, and it says, as you've
been told over and over again. As we've been told
over and over again that by twenty thirty five there
will be no gas powered cars to be able to
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be sold in the state of California. And as a
matter of fact, I think next year it goes to
thirty five percent of cars must be electric vehicles. Well,
right now it's twenty three percent, and it's supposed to
jump to thirty five percent.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's a huge jump.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, as the environmentalists have pushed and succeeded for the
most part, you've got certain administrations are in favor and
are against. The Biden administration loved these restrictions. The Trump
administration not so much. If you try to compare the
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relationship between the Trump administration and environmentalists versus the Trump
administration and car manufacturers, who do you think is going
to win that particular argument. But here is the issue
that's going on the government. The federal government controls this
and the only way California was able to pass the
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Advanced Clean Cars to rule was to get a waiver
from the federal government. They had to get a waiver
from the Environmental Protection Agency, which they have gotten. And
now the Trump administration with the Air Resources Board it says,
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waiver is gone, we're done. We established it, and now
we're moving it because that's the way the rules go.
And of course the lawsuits are going. You can't do this,
You're not allowed to do this. And what the federal
government did is overturn the waivers in violation of what
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appears to be the Congressional Review Act.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Because there's another spin to this.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
This was a law that was meant to allow legislators
to inspect and potentially block federal rules adopted in the
days of a previous presidential administration.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's what it's for, and that's exactly what they're doing now.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
The Government Accountability Office and the Senate Parliamentary Parliamentarian says
that those rules cannot be overturned, which, frankly, I don't understand.
I don't get how those rules that were established by
the government and a waiver is given can't be overturned
by removing the waiver.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Doesn't that happen all the time?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What the government gives the government can take away, And
in this case, it wasn't a congressional Act, which you
can argue only Congress has the right to remove or
establish laws that are under congressional purview. And that's another
issue going on with the Trump administration. But this one
is a decision by the executive branch, and a decision
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now to yank the waiver by the executive branch, unless
I'm misreading this, and I could be. And of course
Newsom is going nuts. Attorney General Rob BoNT is going nuts.
Newsom said, with these votes, Senate Republicans are bending the
need to President Trump once again A true.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But so what.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That doesn't mean you can bend the need to the
president still be within the law. For example, this bill
that Trump passed, the Big Beautiful Act, the Big Beautiful
Bill Act, or the Big Beautiful kiss My Act, or
whatever the hell is called, where he got his tax
exemptions where it's well, let me put it this way,
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it really helped business. Okay, you don't like it, that's fine.
You're suing that they can't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It makes no sense, so Newsom said, these federal waivers
have been afforded to the state of California over one
hundred times to allow us to reduce pollution. Yep, congrat
big muzzle tough to you, now what people were literally
living in gas masks. Okay, so they were, and because
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of the historically poor air quality, California has been an
innovator in clean car policy, true, enacting the nation's first
tailpipe emission standards nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
True later granted the special authority by.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Congress to adopt vehicle emission standards that are more strict
than the federal government under the Clean Air Act. That's
also true, But the bottom line, the state still has
to have a federal waiver from the EPA for any
specific rule to be enforceable. And now we are fifty
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years later, the state has enacted dozens of rules to
reduce air pollution, planet warming, greenhouse gases, which it all has.
You know, if you believe that the environment is fairly important,
which I do. You know my in favor of these rules, yeah,
I am, But okay, that doesn't mean much. It's the
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way the federal government works, and it's a safety issue.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I mean, there's no question.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You have liberal senators Adam Schiff, for example, and you've
got governors like Newsom. And by the way, a dozen
states have passed the same rules following California, and one
of the senators as saying this is against it forcing
the car manufactures to cowtow to the cow how to
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what the environmentalists are doing. Well, that's true. Up to now,
they have forced the manufacturers to kotow. By the way,
so do the safety people with seat belts. You know,
car manufacturers fought seat belts for years and also fought
gas mileage requirements for years, saying it's going to destroy
the car industry.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And that's the argument going on right now.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
First of all, it's not car manufacturer is gonna do
fine if it's mandated that all the cars are electric vehicles,
so they'll manufacture electric vehicles.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Okay, so what of course they will. They're gott to
stay in business.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So anyway, you can kiss goodbye the EPA rules. Those
are gone until the next president comes in. And if
the next president is Donald Trump, then we have to
wait for the next president after Donald Trump, who will
be Donald Trump, and maybe we have to wait for
the third president down the line after Donald Trump basically
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dies and of course is re elected posthumously.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Okay, so much for that. I want ticket.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I want let's me smoking a joint, just taking a
moment here, handle here, you know, I'm not a big
pot smoker. I used to be, but it's it's been
a while now. I'll tell you everybody in my life
around me pot smokers, that's for sure. The women in
my life are all pot smokers, and I'm the fat one.
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Go figure, huh. In the meantime, what is going on
in terms of pot? Well, for those of you that
do smoke pot, you know that marijuana, of course is
not only decriminalized. We have gone from decriminalization of marijuana.
In other words, it was basically a ticket if you
got caught with announcer or less. It was an a
fraction two medical marijuana. And of course that the entire
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industry popped up because right next to every dispensary was
a doctor that was horing himself for herself. You walked
in for thirty five bucks, you got a prescription for
medical marijuana. So that was a joke to straight out.
You can go ahead and smoke pot recreationally. It's like
alcohol's perfectly legal. I mean, it can't be high when
you drink, I mean when you drive, just like drinking.
But it's perfectly legal now. It has always been against
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the law federally, the Feds.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It is still a.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Class one drug, and that means it is the same
as heroin, is the same as methanmphetamie. So both Biden
and Donald Trump pushed originally Biden during his presidency, Donald
Trump during his candidacy, to take that off the table,
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to loosen it up at least to bring it to
a lower standards. Still illegal, but you know, come on,
you know, ten years in jail, eight years, five to
eight or whatever for possession merely possession of marijuana. I mean,
there are people who got twenty years in Texas for
being caught with one joint, usually black individuals. What a shocker,
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who were well, they were considered bad guys. So they're
the ones that got nailed. You know, being at the
wrong place, wrong time. What are you doing in this
neighborhood being roused? Oh you have a joint or a
couple of joints or half an ounce on you, arresting
time and then you go in front of a judge.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And boy, you're done.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So those days have changed, but federally you still can't
do it. You know, people that bring pot on airplanes
ask that all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Can they arrest me?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They can? You know, the.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
TSA can just literally go through your bags and there
you are with your joints and you're done. You know,
at best, they're going to be confiscated. At worst, well
your violation of federal laws. So both Biden and Trump
pushed for the I wouldn't say the deregulation, but certainly
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bring down the emphasis on the criminality of marijuana. And
what stopped in well, the Justice Department and the DEA,
which never liked marijuana for some reason, had to have
hearings to consider changes. That's the way it works. And
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what they did is drag out the hearings.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Over the course of years.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And that's starting with the Biden administration, actually starting with
the first Trump administration and into the Biden administration and
now into the Trump administration. And it's not a big
priority for the Trump administration. And I mean, they've got
a lot of other things on the table. You know,
you've got tariffs on the table. You have the economy
that Trump is dealing with. You certainly have the border
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and border security that's really important to President Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Marijuana use it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And we're pretty strange about this because you have states.
I mean, it's all over the place, because there are
both state laws and federal laws, and federal laws in
fact are superior. They have a precedent because that's the constitution.
Federal law supersede state law, which supersedes local law, and
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whenever there is a contradiction, the superior law wins.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Federal law always trump's state law.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So if federal law says no and state law says yes,
does that mean all of us? Even though California has
absolutely legalized recreational use of marijuana.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Mushrooms too, I'm not a shroom? Are you a loed?
I think you're allowed to have shrooms too, mushrooms, aren't you?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I think so? I don't know. I always got I
used to have a vomit session.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
When I tried mushrooms, it was it was pukeville for me,
so I never particularly enjoyed it. So are you if
you are throwing up, which is entertaining in and of
itself with mushrooms, or getting high and going to your
Nur's basket robin stores, or buying gallons of hagendas, which
is very expensive at the supermarket after getting high, are
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you violating federal law?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You bet you are.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So the only reason that there have not been federal
arrests is because the can you imagine the politics of that?
Can you imagine the Feds coming in and rating, Well,
they would raid dispensaries, of course, that's what they would do.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
They wouldn't raid individuals. That would be hugely entertaining. Wouldn't
that be great? Could it happen? You know, if Trump
was if this was important to Trump, you bet. Now.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I live in a gate community in Orange County, and
so right next to me, you're just down the street,
is a major I'm right off of the five freeway
and it's a major gateway where we're on top of
San Clementy, which was considered a border town, and we're
fairly near that checkpoint about you know, thirty miles inland,
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so we're only a couple of miles from there. So
on this major street, about a quarter of a mile
away from us, there were a dozen ice vehicles lined up.
I've never seen that in my life, going.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
What is that about? Well, what do you think it's
what's important?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You ever seen what looked like an ice checkpoint, an
ice raid?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I don't think any of us have.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, I was looking at a bunch of those, and
of course in the neighborhood. Everybody emails went out because
we're all on a na hood chat chat room and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Oh my god, look at it over there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So you had better hide your gardeners, your pool people,
anybody doing construction in your house.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
All right, it is time for a successful Scratch segment.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Success from Scratch brought to you by Netsuites by Oracle
Stephen Klubec. Interesting guy, a success from Scratch big time
is with us and straight and he's running for governor,
which happens, and he's got a lot to say about that,
and we'll talk about that towards the end of the segment.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Steven, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Bill, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Now as I read your bio and there's some fun stuff.
You grew up in Encino, where I happen to live
for a whole bunch of years. And just a quick
question here that's going to do with your success. Where'd
you go to school and you were growing up.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, let's say Lockhurst Kider Garden in Woodland Hills. Then
I went to Meadow Oaks Leannai Road shout out for
Lanni Road and Encino meadow Oaks. Then Harvard School for boys.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Wow. Okay. Lenai.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
By the way, I passed Lenai School every day when
I went home, right up haven Hurst and then made
a left on haven Hurst on Lenai and then went
up there.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Wow. Okay, so we were neighbors. I didn't even know it,
although you were there.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Mike's Pizza, do you remember Mike's Oh god, those those garlic,
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Let's you know what, forget the rest of this interview.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
We're talking about Mike's Pizza, which has gone out of business.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
All right, so uh, let's.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Talk about how Little League.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Just right just up the street, right next to the freeway. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
For those of you that I'm I played in Little
League guests.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Uh, the owner of the Little League team? No, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I was an interview introverted young man. I was studying science.
I wanted to know my my position was very unique.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
What was it? Manager? What left out? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Left out?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's funny. Hey.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Uh. One of the fun stories about you is you
you went to school and you were going to be
a uh and you're going to be a doctor and
with the brand Eyes biopsychology that's a no BS degree.
And then after that you under then you uh had dixlexia?
You were diagnosed with lexia?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
How are you go?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh? God, I did not know, but I had this superpower.
I had no idea til my oldest son was falling
behind in reading. He was like in sixth grade and
had like a second grade reading level, and they couldn't
fix it. In public school in cal they couldn't fix it.
They couldn't fix it. So I had to battlefield, promote
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and find a school for him out of state. And
I met with the head master of that new school.
They were interviewing the parents that kind of separated us
and wanted to see if we were qualified as parents.
And they were asking me a bunch of questions. The
head master and he goes, Steven, when was the last
time you read a book? I said, ninth grade cliff notes,
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the yellow and black things that I kind of would
highlight the cliff notes, but I memorized everything.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
See that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Let me stop you right there, because now it translates
into what you've done with yourself. Because Burbank, where we
are is when you built your first shopping center. And
here you go from a guy who was in science
dysclexic and created a shopping center. Explain how you did that,
because there's a success from scratch.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I come back from Brandie not knowing what I'm
going to do. I'm going to pivot something to somewhere.
And I was a bodybuilder, so I had disciplined because
I was a fat little kid. My father called me
a lard ass for two years. And now, well that
could have worked out two ways. I could have a
bodybuilder or a serial killer glad I chose the bodybuilder
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out and so I went to cal State northrich and
I learned accounting one oh one and one oh two
in the summer of eighty three, and then at night
I went to UCLA and I listened to business law.
I just went there and listened. I listened. So I
worked for a shopping center development company for a couple
of years and they did not pay me what they
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said they would. So I said, hey, I'm going to
go try this myself. I'll do what they taught me
to do. And I found because I drove every single
county for this company by with a Thomas Guide, all
five counties. I drove every street and we were looking
for seven to eleven circle case. Chief Auto parks, and
I taught this property at Burbank at Victory and Magnolia
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was a Chevron station. And I went to the owner
and I optioned the property, and I built a Chief
Auto parts and four stores, and you know what built
two of the stores are still there today.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
How'd you get the money? How'd you get the money
to do that?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well? It was interesting because I borrowed some money, a
little bit of money, but it was during the savings
and loan days, and this deal was so good that
I was able to borrow more than the entire center
costs to build it ended building. So I built it
for like a million dollars, but I borrowed a million
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four so it all kind of worked out really well.
It's like winning a slot machine. You know, the first
time you go to Las Vegas and you can't stop,
so you get developers disease. That's a problem, but you
have to control that. You got to control anything that's
in digntive. But how old, how old we are with the time,
can I ask twenty four.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Twenty four, and you build your first shopping center. For
those of you that have twenty four year old kids
that are listening, I want you to turn to your children,
run play this interview, by the way, and because we
can do it on demand, and turn to your kids
and go losers, listen to Steve Steven Glubec. We're doing
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a success from Scratch segment brought to you by Netsuitet
Stephen who is running for governor. We'll talk about that
in a few minutes. But the success from scratch story
is what is so terrific about you, Steven, and that
is at first of all, graduating college in sciences and
being dyslexic and having not read books for years, having
to memorize the topics and taking the tests, and then
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at twenty four creating your first shopping center, which is
rather extraordinary, and being hugely successful. So let's talk about
what happened to you after the first shopping center, because
then the story gets even more and more and more successful.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So if you would take it from there, well.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Thanks, So the second and third shopping centers I built
Bakersfield one seventy eight, Noswell and Chestern, Ming and I
built shopping centers throughout southern California, Hanford all the way
down to you know, Lake Forest, Mission Vieo Lake Forest.
I had an absolute bomb I almost I almost went broke.
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I had to give that shopping center back because my
contractors went broke, my tenants went broke. It was late eighties.
But I had to learn to build. I had to build,
and because of that experience, I had to learn to
read plans. I had to get in the field and
know what a nail gun was and build retaining walls
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and actually physically work. And that allowed me to build
my first hotel because my father ran out of inventory.
He was the timeshare hotel business in Las Vegas. He said, hey,
you know, son, I got a build this new hotel.
I don't know anything about this because my dad was
a sales and marketing guy. He had a project of Willits, California,
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Northern California. He spend my summers there. But I was
a busboy, dishwasher, waiter as a young kid. I worked
young hold labor was not around, but you know I
loved it. I earned my first bike.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Let me interrupt you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
For a second because I'm fascinated by this because as
you were saying, and I am reading, you're talking about
starting in Burbank and then building in Hemmet and Bakersfield,
in Hanford and.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Buena Park Mission, Fiejo.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
These are all not even secondary markets, they're tertiary markets.
So I don't see any Beverly Hills. I don't see
any westside LA's. I don't see any major cities. Why
did you choose these fair leaf out of the way cities.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, that's where the tenants wanted to go. I went
where the tenants wanted to go. I learned something really young,
you know, you just remind me so I at a
young age, I always listened. I listened, and I delivered
equal or greater value. And that's kind of been the
story of my life. I listened because it goes into
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the hotel business that I went into, and I'm just
always listening and delivering greater value. You know. It's what
my customer wanted, and I just always did that. I
paid attention. So I built this first hotel on time,
on budget. My father showed up at the groundbreaking and
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the ground opening, grand opening, and he sold the company.
I went with that company and I bought the company
back bill.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So you bought it from your da Hey, No, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, he sold the company. Oh held, okay, Star War Capital.
I went as a co ceo. I got to a
fight with the co CEO after a year and a half,
and I ended up buying that company back. And I
had no money. Fortunately a bank loan hundred percent a
sixty month loan. I paid him back in thirty seven months.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I mean, I want to again. I mean, I know
your story could go on four hours and hours.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, and but so you want to cut to the chase, please.
So I learned from really good mentors. You got to listen.
You gotta have mentors in your life. I had friends
that were twenty years older than me. I used to
hang out with them, Senator Harry Reid, Mike Milkin. But
I met Mike Milkin when I was thirteen. Didn't know
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what it would evolve that he would become my business partner. Well,
I was going to be a surgeon. But I also
do philanthropy with him. And Harry Reid was my father's attorney.
And all these things collide in my world. And I
get to introduce to these beautiful people, and I work,
I go get coffee, I just listen. I hang around
the hoop.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, I these people. By the way, I'm going to
interrupt you again.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Mike Milkan, of course, invented junk bonds, is a billionaire,
and then he went to prison for four years.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It was all kind of that's a great story.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I've got course Harry Reid, but of course former senator,
former speaker or majority leader of major Where now it's
Harry Reid airport in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Hey do you know who? Do you know who did that?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I know you had part of that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, not not part of it. I did it, glad
at least seven years. They tried three years. I got
it done in three months.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Okay, I want to give you a chance.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
No taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I want to give you a chance.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And by the way, you just to let you know
Diamond Resorts International a huge company that was his and
he sold I.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It doesn't get bigger than that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So let's end up with your running for governor and
why because you'd sit back. I mean, you know, here
you are and now you're ready to work harder than
you've ever worked in your life with the run.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And if you win, you're going to work your tail off.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
So let's talk about why you're going to get Take
a couple of minutes and let's do that.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Unexpected. I interviewed every single person that was thinking of running.
Not one had solutions. You talked about law. I ran
into somebody, the lieutenant governor. She didn't know the difference
between federal and state law. You just talked about that.
She's out of touch. A Lenny is out of touch.
And I know, yeah, Antonio and Besserah, And I'm saying
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to myself, but these people are gonna run. They don't
Antonio doesn't even known so balid sheet and income statement.
They don't understand. They don't understand. They understand title, and
they understand getting a paycheck. They don't understand it's not
their money, it's our money. And they don't understand leadership,
creating good leaders. That's the job. Your job is to
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be a steward the capital of the people of California. Okay,
it's not the bully pulpit that I grew up in.
We grew up in and I said, wow, we're closed
for business. Okay, we're not affordable, level and workable. Let
me take a look at this. Let me tell you.
My friends said you're crazy. I said, you know, I'm
a little nuts. But they vetted me and my lawyers
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came back and said, you know what, we didn't want
you to do this, but you're proven you actually could
do this because you've served federally, state and local and
you fix the most broken up businesses. So I said, okay,
I'm going to go do my due diligence on the
state of California. Let me talk to the customer of California.
Let me see where we went wrong. And when the
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CEO of Chevron and the head of the farm workers
say the same thing to me, Bill, we got a
serious problem. We got a serious problem, and it's fixable.
There are simple solutions for a better life and a
better way, and it's going to be done by a
business person with experience that understands politics, policy, regulation, and
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I've got those qualifications.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And yeah, by the way, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I know you know we're right out of time, but
I've always been in favor of a business person running
the state because it is a huge business in and
of it is how do we get hold you know,
we are out of time. How do we get hold
of you?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Stephen, get a hold of me?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah? Yeah, how do people get information from you?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And you can go to California get a clue dot com.
You can go to cluebec for Governor twenty twenty six.
You go to Stephenjclubec dot com.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, so looking it up.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
See if you want my email because I used to
put my business card at every front desk, and as
your governor, you'll have my email and my cell phone. Okay,
go to SJC at clueco c l oo dot com.
I am transparent, I'm available. I want to hear what's
impeding you from doing good business in California.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You're already believe me, you've already gotten the political side
of things. There's no question. Now you're running for governor
and that's the way you do it, all right, by
the way his ways. Just to look up Stephen Kluebeck
and he'll give you all the information.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
At c l O O B E C. K.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Klue Beck and Stephen looking forward to hearing from you
a whole bunch in the future.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Good luck and have a good one, all right, Thanks,
take care all right.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here it is a foody Friday, May twenty three. We're
looking at a bunch of stories, a lot of stuff
in the world of politics. Federal judge blocked the Trump
administration from attempting to dismantle the Department of Education. There
was a lawsuit and the judge said, yeah, yeah, you
(00:27):
can't do that. You can't just arbitrarily do that because
Congress established the Department.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Of Education, and so the defenders of the.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
President, the representative said oh no, no, no, no, this is
nothing with dismantling. All we're trying to do is make
it more efficient. And the court said, yeah, well, how
about the word dismantling that the President as well as
the Secretary of the Department of Education used.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Exactly. That was the response.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
All right, We know California is been at the front,
forefront of the clean air movement, on the political front,
on the governmental front.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And we have a.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Law that was actually enacted in twenty twenty two, the
Advanced Clean Cars to Rule, and it was enacted by
the California Air Resources Board, and it says, as you've
been told over and over again. As we've been told
over and over again that by twenty thirty five there
will be no gas powered cars to be able to
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be sold in the state of California. And as a
matter of fact, I think next year it goes to
thirty five percent of cars must be electric vehicles. Well,
right now it's twenty three percent, and it's supposed to
jump to thirty five percent.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's a huge jump.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, as the environmentalists have pushed and succeeded for the
most part, you've got certain administrations are in favor and
are against. The Biden administration loved these restrictions. The Trump
administration not so much. If you try to compare the
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relationship between the Trump administration and environmentalists versus the Trump
administration and car manufacturers, who do you think is going
to win that particular argument. But here is the issue
that's going on the government. The federal government controls this
and the only way California was able to pass the
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Advanced Clean Cars to rule was to get a waiver
from the federal government. They had to get a waiver
from the Environmental Protection Agency, which they have gotten. And
now the Trump administration with the Air Resources Board it says,
(02:53):
waiver is gone, we're done. We established it, and now
we're moving it because that's the way the rules go.
And of course the lawsuits are going. You can't do this,
You're not allowed to do this. And what the federal
government did is overturn the waivers in violation of what
(03:20):
appears to be the Congressional Review Act.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Because there's another spin to this.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
This was a law that was meant to allow legislators
to inspect and potentially block federal rules adopted in the
days of a previous presidential administration.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's what it's for, and that's exactly what they're doing now.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
The Government Accountability Office and the Senate Parliamentary Parliamentarian says
that those rules cannot be overturned, which, frankly, I don't understand.
I don't get how those rules that were established by
the government and a waiver is given can't be overturned
by removing the waiver.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Doesn't that happen all the time?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What the government gives the government can take away, And
in this case, it wasn't a congressional Act, which you
can argue only Congress has the right to remove or
establish laws that are under congressional purview. And that's another
issue going on with the Trump administration. But this one
is a decision by the executive branch, and a decision
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now to yank the waiver by the executive branch, unless
I'm misreading this, and I could be. And of course
Newsom is going nuts. Attorney General Rob BoNT is going nuts.
Newsom said, with these votes, Senate Republicans are bending the
need to President Trump once again A true.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But so what.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That doesn't mean you can bend the need to the
president still be within the law. For example, this bill
that Trump passed, the Big Beautiful Act, the Big Beautiful
Bill Act, or the Big Beautiful kiss My Act, or
whatever the hell is called, where he got his tax
exemptions where it's well, let me put it this way,
(05:07):
it really helped business. Okay, you don't like it, that's fine.
You're suing that they can't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It makes no sense, so Newsom said, these federal waivers
have been afforded to the state of California over one
hundred times to allow us to reduce pollution. Yep, congrat
big muzzle tough to you, now what people were literally
living in gas masks. Okay, so they were, and because
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of the historically poor air quality, California has been an
innovator in clean car policy, true, enacting the nation's first
tailpipe emission standards nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
True later granted the special authority by.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Congress to adopt vehicle emission standards that are more strict
than the federal government under the Clean Air Act. That's
also true, But the bottom line, the state still has
to have a federal waiver from the EPA for any
specific rule to be enforceable. And now we are fifty
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years later, the state has enacted dozens of rules to
reduce air pollution, planet warming, greenhouse gases, which it all has.
You know, if you believe that the environment is fairly important,
which I do. You know my in favor of these rules, yeah,
I am, But okay, that doesn't mean much. It's the
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way the federal government works, and it's a safety issue.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I mean, there's no question.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You have liberal senators Adam Schiff, for example, and you've
got governors like Newsom. And by the way, a dozen
states have passed the same rules following California, and one
of the senators as saying this is against it forcing
the car manufactures to cowtow to the cow how to
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what the environmentalists are doing. Well, that's true. Up to now,
they have forced the manufacturers to kotow. By the way,
so do the safety people with seat belts. You know,
car manufacturers fought seat belts for years and also fought
gas mileage requirements for years, saying it's going to destroy
the car industry.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And that's the argument going on right now.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
First of all, it's not car manufacturer is gonna do
fine if it's mandated that all the cars are electric vehicles,
so they'll manufacture electric vehicles.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Okay, so what of course they will. They're gott to
stay in business.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So anyway, you can kiss goodbye the EPA rules. Those
are gone until the next president comes in. And if
the next president is Donald Trump, then we have to
wait for the next president after Donald Trump, who will
be Donald Trump, and maybe we have to wait for
the third president down the line after Donald Trump basically
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dies and of course is re elected posthumously.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Okay, so much for that. I want ticket.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I want let's me smoking a joint, just taking a
moment here, handle here, you know, I'm not a big
pot smoker. I used to be, but it's it's been
a while now. I'll tell you everybody in my life
around me pot smokers, that's for sure. The women in
my life are all pot smokers, and I'm the fat one.
(08:38):
Go figure, huh. In the meantime, what is going on
in terms of pot? Well, for those of you that
do smoke pot, you know that marijuana, of course is
not only decriminalized. We have gone from decriminalization of marijuana.
In other words, it was basically a ticket if you
got caught with announcer or less. It was an a
fraction two medical marijuana. And of course that the entire
(09:03):
industry popped up because right next to every dispensary was
a doctor that was horing himself for herself. You walked
in for thirty five bucks, you got a prescription for
medical marijuana. So that was a joke to straight out.
You can go ahead and smoke pot recreationally. It's like
alcohol's perfectly legal. I mean, it can't be high when
you drink, I mean when you drive, just like drinking.
But it's perfectly legal now. It has always been against
(09:27):
the law federally, the Feds.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It is still a.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Class one drug, and that means it is the same
as heroin, is the same as methanmphetamie. So both Biden
and Donald Trump pushed originally Biden during his presidency, Donald
Trump during his candidacy, to take that off the table,
(09:55):
to loosen it up at least to bring it to
a lower standards. Still illegal, but you know, come on,
you know, ten years in jail, eight years, five to
eight or whatever for possession merely possession of marijuana. I mean,
there are people who got twenty years in Texas for
being caught with one joint, usually black individuals. What a shocker,
(10:21):
who were well, they were considered bad guys. So they're
the ones that got nailed. You know, being at the
wrong place, wrong time. What are you doing in this
neighborhood being roused? Oh you have a joint or a
couple of joints or half an ounce on you, arresting
time and then you go in front of a judge.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And boy, you're done.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So those days have changed, but federally you still can't
do it. You know, people that bring pot on airplanes
ask that all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Can they arrest me?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They can? You know, the.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
TSA can just literally go through your bags and there
you are with your joints and you're done. You know,
at best, they're going to be confiscated. At worst, well
your violation of federal laws. So both Biden and Trump
pushed for the I wouldn't say the deregulation, but certainly
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bring down the emphasis on the criminality of marijuana. And
what stopped in well, the Justice Department and the DEA,
which never liked marijuana for some reason, had to have
hearings to consider changes. That's the way it works. And
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what they did is drag out the hearings.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Over the course of years.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And that's starting with the Biden administration, actually starting with
the first Trump administration and into the Biden administration and
now into the Trump administration. And it's not a big
priority for the Trump administration. And I mean, they've got
a lot of other things on the table. You know,
you've got tariffs on the table. You have the economy
that Trump is dealing with. You certainly have the border
(12:04):
and border security that's really important to President Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Marijuana use it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And we're pretty strange about this because you have states.
I mean, it's all over the place, because there are
both state laws and federal laws, and federal laws in
fact are superior. They have a precedent because that's the constitution.
Federal law supersede state law, which supersedes local law, and
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whenever there is a contradiction, the superior law wins.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Federal law always trump's state law.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So if federal law says no and state law says yes,
does that mean all of us? Even though California has
absolutely legalized recreational use of marijuana.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Mushrooms too, I'm not a shroom? Are you a loed?
I think you're allowed to have shrooms too, mushrooms, aren't you?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I think so? I don't know. I always got I
used to have a vomit session.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
When I tried mushrooms, it was it was pukeville for me,
so I never particularly enjoyed it. So are you if
you are throwing up, which is entertaining in and of
itself with mushrooms, or getting high and going to your
Nur's basket robin stores, or buying gallons of hagendas, which
is very expensive at the supermarket after getting high, are
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you violating federal law?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
You bet you are.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So the only reason that there have not been federal
arrests is because the can you imagine the politics of that?
Can you imagine the Feds coming in and rating, Well,
they would raid dispensaries, of course, that's what they would do.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
They wouldn't raid individuals. That would be hugely entertaining. Wouldn't
that be great? Could it happen? You know, if Trump
was if this was important to Trump, you bet. Now.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I live in a gate community in Orange County, and
so right next to me, you're just down the street,
is a major I'm right off of the five freeway
and it's a major gateway where we're on top of
San Clementy, which was considered a border town, and we're
fairly near that checkpoint about you know, thirty miles inland,
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so we're only a couple of miles from there. So
on this major street, about a quarter of a mile
away from us, there were a dozen ice vehicles lined up.
I've never seen that in my life, going.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
What is that about? Well, what do you think it's
what's important?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You ever seen what looked like an ice checkpoint, an
ice raid?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I don't think any of us have.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, I was looking at a bunch of those, and
of course in the neighborhood. Everybody emails went out because
we're all on a na hood chat chat room and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Oh my god, look at it over there.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So you had better hide your gardeners, your pool people,
anybody doing construction in your house.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
All right, it is time for a successful Scratch segment.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Success from Scratch brought to you by Netsuites by Oracle
Stephen Klubec. Interesting guy, a success from Scratch big time
is with us and straight and he's running for governor,
which happens, and he's got a lot to say about that,
and we'll talk about that towards the end of the segment.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Steven, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Bill, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Now as I read your bio and there's some fun stuff.
You grew up in Encino, where I happen to live
for a whole bunch of years. And just a quick
question here that's going to do with your success. Where'd
you go to school and you were growing up.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, let's say Lockhurst Kider Garden in Woodland Hills. Then
I went to Meadow Oaks Leannai Road shout out for
Lanni Road and Encino meadow Oaks. Then Harvard School for boys.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Wow. Okay. Lenai.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
By the way, I passed Lenai School every day when
I went home, right up haven Hurst and then made
a left on haven Hurst on Lenai and then went
up there.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Wow. Okay, so we were neighbors. I didn't even know it,
although you were there.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Mike's Pizza, do you remember Mike's Oh god, those those garlic,
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Let's you know what, forget the rest of this interview.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
We're talking about Mike's Pizza, which has gone out of business.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
All right, so uh, let's.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Talk about how Little League.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Just right just up the street, right next to the freeway. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
For those of you that I'm I played in Little
League guests.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Uh, the owner of the Little League team? No, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I was an interview introverted young man. I was studying science.
I wanted to know my my position was very unique.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
What was it? Manager? What left out? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Left out?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's funny. Hey.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Uh. One of the fun stories about you is you
you went to school and you were going to be
a uh and you're going to be a doctor and
with the brand Eyes biopsychology that's a no BS degree.
And then after that you under then you uh had dixlexia?
You were diagnosed with lexia?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
How are you go?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Oh? God, I did not know, but I had this superpower.
I had no idea til my oldest son was falling
behind in reading. He was like in sixth grade and
had like a second grade reading level, and they couldn't
fix it. In public school in cal they couldn't fix it.
They couldn't fix it. So I had to battlefield, promote
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and find a school for him out of state. And
I met with the head master of that new school.
They were interviewing the parents that kind of separated us
and wanted to see if we were qualified as parents.
And they were asking me a bunch of questions. The
head master and he goes, Steven, when was the last
time you read a book? I said, ninth grade cliff notes,
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the yellow and black things that I kind of would
highlight the cliff notes, but I memorized everything.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
See that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Let me stop you right there, because now it translates
into what you've done with yourself. Because Burbank, where we
are is when you built your first shopping center. And
here you go from a guy who was in science
dysclexic and created a shopping center. Explain how you did that,
because there's a success from scratch.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I come back from Brandie not knowing what I'm
going to do. I'm going to pivot something to somewhere.
And I was a bodybuilder, so I had disciplined because
I was a fat little kid. My father called me
a lard ass for two years. And now, well that
could have worked out two ways. I could have a
bodybuilder or a serial killer glad I chose the bodybuilder
(19:19):
out and so I went to cal State northrich and
I learned accounting one oh one and one oh two
in the summer of eighty three, and then at night
I went to UCLA and I listened to business law.
I just went there and listened. I listened. So I
worked for a shopping center development company for a couple
of years and they did not pay me what they
(19:41):
said they would. So I said, hey, I'm going to
go try this myself. I'll do what they taught me
to do. And I found because I drove every single
county for this company by with a Thomas Guide, all
five counties. I drove every street and we were looking
for seven to eleven circle case. Chief Auto parks, and
I taught this property at Burbank at Victory and Magnolia
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was a Chevron station. And I went to the owner
and I optioned the property, and I built a Chief
Auto parts and four stores, and you know what built
two of the stores are still there today.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
How'd you get the money? How'd you get the money
to do that?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well? It was interesting because I borrowed some money, a
little bit of money, but it was during the savings
and loan days, and this deal was so good that
I was able to borrow more than the entire center
costs to build it ended building. So I built it
for like a million dollars, but I borrowed a million
(20:39):
four so it all kind of worked out really well.
It's like winning a slot machine. You know, the first
time you go to Las Vegas and you can't stop,
so you get developers disease. That's a problem, but you
have to control that. You got to control anything that's
in digntive. But how old, how old we are with the time,
can I ask twenty four.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Twenty four, and you build your first shopping center. For
those of you that have twenty four year old kids
that are listening, I want you to turn to your children,
run play this interview, by the way, and because we
can do it on demand, and turn to your kids
and go losers, listen to Steve Steven Glubec. We're doing
(21:21):
a success from Scratch segment brought to you by Netsuitet
Stephen who is running for governor. We'll talk about that
in a few minutes. But the success from scratch story
is what is so terrific about you, Steven, and that
is at first of all, graduating college in sciences and
being dyslexic and having not read books for years, having
to memorize the topics and taking the tests, and then
(21:46):
at twenty four creating your first shopping center, which is
rather extraordinary, and being hugely successful. So let's talk about
what happened to you after the first shopping center, because
then the story gets even more and more and more successful.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So if you would take it from there, well.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Thanks, So the second and third shopping centers I built
Bakersfield one seventy eight, Noswell and Chestern, Ming and I
built shopping centers throughout southern California, Hanford all the way
down to you know, Lake Forest, Mission Vieo Lake Forest.
I had an absolute bomb I almost I almost went broke.
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I had to give that shopping center back because my
contractors went broke, my tenants went broke. It was late eighties.
But I had to learn to build. I had to build,
and because of that experience, I had to learn to
read plans. I had to get in the field and
know what a nail gun was and build retaining walls
(22:44):
and actually physically work. And that allowed me to build
my first hotel because my father ran out of inventory.
He was the timeshare hotel business in Las Vegas. He said, hey,
you know, son, I got a build this new hotel.
I don't know anything about this because my dad was
a sales and marketing guy. He had a project of Willits, California,
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Northern California. He spend my summers there. But I was
a busboy, dishwasher, waiter as a young kid. I worked
young hold labor was not around, but you know I
loved it. I earned my first bike.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Let me interrupt you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
For a second because I'm fascinated by this because as
you were saying, and I am reading, you're talking about
starting in Burbank and then building in Hemmet and Bakersfield,
in Hanford and.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Buena Park Mission, Fiejo.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
These are all not even secondary markets, they're tertiary markets.
So I don't see any Beverly Hills. I don't see
any westside LA's. I don't see any major cities. Why
did you choose these fair leaf out of the way cities.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, that's where the tenants wanted to go. I went
where the tenants wanted to go. I learned something really young,
you know, you just remind me so I at a
young age, I always listened. I listened, and I delivered
equal or greater value. And that's kind of been the
story of my life. I listened because it goes into
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the hotel business that I went into, and I'm just
always listening and delivering greater value. You know. It's what
my customer wanted, and I just always did that. I
paid attention. So I built this first hotel on time,
on budget. My father showed up at the groundbreaking and
(24:33):
the ground opening, grand opening, and he sold the company.
I went with that company and I bought the company
back bill.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So you bought it from your da Hey, No, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, he sold the company. Oh held, okay, Star War Capital.
I went as a co ceo. I got to a
fight with the co CEO after a year and a half,
and I ended up buying that company back. And I
had no money. Fortunately a bank loan hundred percent a
sixty month loan. I paid him back in thirty seven months.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I mean, I want to again. I mean, I know
your story could go on four hours and hours.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, and but so you want to cut to the chase, please.
So I learned from really good mentors. You got to listen.
You gotta have mentors in your life. I had friends
that were twenty years older than me. I used to
hang out with them, Senator Harry Reid, Mike Milkin. But
I met Mike Milkin when I was thirteen. Didn't know
(25:32):
what it would evolve that he would become my business partner. Well,
I was going to be a surgeon. But I also
do philanthropy with him. And Harry Reid was my father's attorney.
And all these things collide in my world. And I
get to introduce to these beautiful people, and I work,
I go get coffee, I just listen. I hang around
the hoop.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, I these people. By the way, I'm going to
interrupt you again.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Mike Milkan, of course, invented junk bonds, is a billionaire,
and then he went to prison for four years.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It was all kind of that's a great story.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I've got course Harry Reid, but of course former senator,
former speaker or majority leader of major Where now it's
Harry Reid airport in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Hey do you know who? Do you know who did that?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I know you had part of that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No, not not part of it. I did it, glad
at least seven years. They tried three years. I got
it done in three months.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Okay, I want to give you a chance.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
No taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I want to give you a chance.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And by the way, you just to let you know
Diamond Resorts International a huge company that was his and
he sold I.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It doesn't get bigger than that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So let's end up with your running for governor and
why because you'd sit back. I mean, you know, here
you are and now you're ready to work harder than
you've ever worked in your life with the run.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And if you win, you're going to work your tail off.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
So let's talk about why you're going to get Take
a couple of minutes and let's do that.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Unexpected. I interviewed every single person that was thinking of running.
Not one had solutions. You talked about law. I ran
into somebody, the lieutenant governor. She didn't know the difference
between federal and state law. You just talked about that.
She's out of touch. A Lenny is out of touch.
And I know, yeah, Antonio and Besserah, And I'm saying
(27:23):
to myself, but these people are gonna run. They don't
Antonio doesn't even known so balid sheet and income statement.
They don't understand. They don't understand. They understand title, and
they understand getting a paycheck. They don't understand it's not
their money, it's our money. And they don't understand leadership,
creating good leaders. That's the job. Your job is to
(27:48):
be a steward the capital of the people of California. Okay,
it's not the bully pulpit that I grew up in.
We grew up in and I said, wow, we're closed
for business. Okay, we're not affordable, level and workable. Let
me take a look at this. Let me tell you.
My friends said you're crazy. I said, you know, I'm
a little nuts. But they vetted me and my lawyers
(28:11):
came back and said, you know what, we didn't want
you to do this, but you're proven you actually could
do this because you've served federally, state and local and
you fix the most broken up businesses. So I said, okay,
I'm going to go do my due diligence on the
state of California. Let me talk to the customer of California.
Let me see where we went wrong. And when the
(28:32):
CEO of Chevron and the head of the farm workers
say the same thing to me, Bill, we got a
serious problem. We got a serious problem, and it's fixable.
There are simple solutions for a better life and a
better way, and it's going to be done by a
business person with experience that understands politics, policy, regulation, and
(28:53):
I've got those qualifications.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And yeah, by the way, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I know you know we're right out of time, but
I've always been in favor of a business person running
the state because it is a huge business in and
of it is how do we get hold you know,
we are out of time. How do we get hold
of you?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Stephen, get a hold of me?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah? Yeah, how do people get information from you?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And you can go to California get a clue dot com.
You can go to cluebec for Governor twenty twenty six.
You go to Stephenjclubec dot com.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, so looking it up.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
See if you want my email because I used to
put my business card at every front desk, and as
your governor, you'll have my email and my cell phone. Okay,
go to SJC at clueco c l oo dot com.
I am transparent, I'm available. I want to hear what's
impeding you from doing good business in California.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You're already believe me, you've already gotten the political side
of things. There's no question. Now you're running for governor
and that's the way you do it, all right, by
the way his ways. Just to look up Stephen Kluebeck
and he'll give you all the information.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
At c l O O B E C. K.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Klue Beck and Stephen looking forward to hearing from you
a whole bunch in the future.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Good luck and have a good one, all right, Thanks,
take care all right.
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