July 4, 2025 • 26 mins
(Friday 07/04/25)
Los Angeles to halt ‘disaster tourism’ buses in Palisades fire zone. The new honeymoon: Romance, adventure, and… your mom. Teens found guilty of bullying could lose their drivers license.
Los Angeles to halt ‘disaster tourism’ buses in Palisades fire zone. The new honeymoon: Romance, adventure, and… your mom. Teens found guilty of bullying could lose their drivers license.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty, KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Happy fourth July two hundred and fifty, two
hundred and fifty years right, there's one pretty awesome look
at us. We don't look a year over two hundred.
(00:24):
I'd love it. A great experiment continues. I, for one,
am a proud American of Mexican descent. My dad was
God rest his soul, a very proud Chicano. And my
mom continues to be proud. She comes from English, Irish
(00:49):
and Scottish stock. Salma Mutt. I'm a little half breed,
although I identify as a Latino because that's you know,
that's what I know, that's what you know. I had
the benefit of multiple cultures in my life. But I
will tell you this, my dad was made it very
(01:12):
important to fly the flag on special occasions and the
like and make me be a part of it. I
remember distinctly going out and putting the flag up. My father.
It doesn't matter, It doesn't mean that he was always
thrilled with things. You know. The farm workers Eagle was
(01:37):
probably one of the first, you know, symbols or things
that I saw. And my dad was a silk screener
and a designer at the time, and I remember seeing
that as a kid on silk screens and T shirts
and the like. But also it was a big deal.
The Space program was a big deal, and Apollo was
a big deal. Hence my name Neil Edwin Savadra named
(02:00):
after Neil Armstrong and buzz Edwin Aldron. So you know,
I get a lot of that patriotism from my father,
and so on days like this on the fourth July,
I know that there's a lot going on and things
that I'm certainly not proud of. I don't want to
see immigrants you know that are yes, I get it,
(02:24):
they're paperless and they're undocumented, But I don't want to
see those that come here to work hard and and
be our neighbors get taken up and put into either
jail or just deported willy nilly without people thinking through it.
(02:46):
The criminals get them off. Now, if you go to
the fact that, oh, well they came here illegally, they're criminals, No,
that's said. That is different. That's a civil crime in
most instances, unless they were deported and came back life.
But all this to say that I'm still very proud
of what we have here in the United States, and
(03:07):
I think it's an incredible country. And so today I
hope that you see that through the fog of chaos,
that we the people still stand head and shoulders above
any one person in any office at any time, and
that there's still many things to be thankful for, and
hopefully the chaos that is going on as far as
(03:29):
the raids and life will you know, more level heads
will prevail on understanding the difference. I will tell you this.
I had a conversation with my wife, Tracy, who's incredibly smart,
and she doesn't refer to them as the undocumented. She
refers to them as the unprotected. Because both sides, which
(03:53):
is why I'm not a member of either party. I think.
I think there are idiots on both sides, and I
think the only way it can work is if you
shuffle the deck between the two. But I thought that
that's exactly right. Everybody's turned their head, and now we
have these poor people that are unprotected because nobody did
(04:15):
it properly. Nobody. You know, Trump is back in office,
I get it, but there has been plenty of Democrats
that have been in office that haven't changed any of this.
So a tiny little bit of rant because the sorrow
that I feel for people that are working hard here
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and are good, hard working, kind people, better than a
lot of people that were born here and trust me,
and they're getting the short end of the stick, not
because of Trump. He may be doing it ugly, and
there's no doubt about that in my mind. What he's
doing is ugly and inhumane in many cases, but everyone
(05:02):
is to blame because they are completely unprotected with zero
zero given to them by either side, because leaving them
unprotected led to this, and at any time there could
have been a reform that protected them at any time
(05:27):
with many Democrats. So I know it's easier to blame
one or the other, or just you know, blame the
side that you don't adhere to. But as somebody who
stands very strongly in the middle and is a rationalist,
which is really hard these days, when everybody wants to
(05:49):
wear the badge of emotions. Nobody thinks anymore, nobody understands
rational thinking and processing thought and reason and all those things.
Everybody wants to be emotional. Oh but don't you think
that this is sad. Well, yeah, there's a lot sad.
Sad that people die, even naturally, but the rationale has
(06:12):
gone out the window. And I think because we ignore
what both. You know, if it's not your side, you
ignore it. There is many much smarter people than I
that have gone through the century saying all you need
to do is divide a group, and they forget who
the real enemy is, because the enemy is the one
(06:34):
that's separating the group to make them not think together.
So we both you know, whoever it is, we both
on either side, or we all as American probably the
better way to say, have a hand in this. And
that's probably one of the hardest things to get over
on this Fourth of July is for it to be
(06:55):
cloaked in the ugliness that is going on with raids
that seem mindless and zero tolerance, which I'm not a
fan of. When they brought that into the schools, you
remember kid came to school with an aspirin or something
in their lunch box and they were expelled or something
(07:15):
because zero tolerance for you know, drugs or a plastic
knife to cut their bagel and were kicked out of
school because zero tolerance. On weapons. Zero tolerance means zero thinking,
and so that's a lot of the stuff that we're seeing.
Just a little soapbox. I'll climb down off it, get
(07:38):
the soap out, wash my body, keep it clean America.
So Los Angeles has, you know, a lot of warts.
I love my city and always have, but you know,
there's a weird crap that goes on in the city.
They're just one of the things I remember growing in
relationship with my wife after we got married, we moved
(08:01):
in together the very day we got married, and living
in Hollywood that whenever we saw something weird, I would
just shake my head and smile and say, totally normal.
This is totally normal. This is the way life is.
You see Barney the Purple Dinosaur walking down the street
with Darth Vader having a chat. Totally normal guy dressed
(08:25):
as a skeleton in the middle of summer, nowhere near Halloween.
Totally normal. All these things. But what I don't like
is the I guess, the tourism aspect, not the healthy,
you gotta have it tourism, but the weird stuff. And
Los Angeles is now putting a halt to some of this,
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and that's the disaster tourism. So here we are, six
months or whatever after the January firestorm devastating two massive
communities in Los Angeles, and you know, people are taking
these buses to drive by and look at the disaster. Now.
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I understand curiosity and all those things. I get it.
I understand how one could look at this and say, well,
you know, I want to see what took place and
the devastations, understand the news in a different way, and
get all of that. But these kind of disaster tours
going on that are being conducted in Pacific Palisades and
the like, finally had Tracy Park, a Los Angeles City
(09:36):
Council member, at a council meeting this week, say they're
looking to profit off the destruction in other people's losses
and it's really gross and it needs to be stopped.
And I can't argue with that. I can't look at
that and say, oh, you're overreacting. It's pretty gross. And
(10:00):
you know, we hear about those things, you know, people
making money during COVID or wartime, uh, you know, making
money during war and the like, and it's just what
they profiteering or whatever. It's it's gross. And you see
this in this context and these disasters that strike. Now.
I remember I was in where were we? I was
(10:28):
in Louisiana in New Orleans? After what was the big one?
And what was the it was? It wasn't was it Katrina? No,
it was before Katrina? I think. Anyways, there was a
(10:49):
massive hurricane and we were there probably six months after
or so. And you you couldn't drive down the road
and not see these things. But we weren't there to
see those things. We were there to put money back
into the economy and to go and to visit some
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family and things like that. So you had to see it.
But I wouldn't have thought of taking a bus around
to tour the devastation, I suppose. And if you are
in that disaster zone where the fires took place and
(11:30):
people are still dealing with the horrors of insurance and
red tape and all of this garbage, to be gawking
at it, it just seems a little odd. So good
on them. I hope that they're able to, you know,
stop this put a halt to the disaster tourism that
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these buses are doing. In the Palace States. It's bad
enough that they go to you know, famous people's home
which just seems I mean, I've always wanted to do
it as a tourist, like go go through things in
la as a tourist, to see what it's like all
these things that there, because you'd walk through these areas
and you'd have people handing you these lit leafless all
(12:15):
the time, and you just go, I'm a local. I'm
a local. I'm a local. But to act like a
tourist in your own town and see what, see where
these buses go. But you know a lot of times
the person had moved out years before and things like that.
But I found this gross and good on them for
trying to put a stop to that. And we'll see
how that goes down, all right. I took my honeymoon
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with my wife in India. We went to India and
it was gorgeous and lovely. I didn't think of bringing
my mother or Tracy's mother or family with us, but
I wouldn't have had a problem with it. There's a
story in the Wall Street Journal that couples are starting
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to invite parents or relatives, sometimes even friends on their
post wedding trips that we traditionally think of as the
honeymoon period. This is you know the time where you're
connecting physically and you know, celebrating the bond that comes
with marriage. But maybe it's the modern world when the
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reality of someone saving themselves for marriage is not common
and so you know, passion is already kicked in prior
to the wedding in many cases. And no judgment, I'm
not here to say. I know that there's faith reasons
and things like that, and people can talk about those
(13:52):
things a separate conversation. And this, to me, it's the
concept of sharing your you're bond with other members of
the family in this sense, I don't have a problem
with it. Now. Producer and and I talked about she
went to you went to Tahiti. I don't know would
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you would you have wanted to bring friends and family
or no? No, because you tell me that it was
just a beautiful I mean it was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We did the overwater bungalow, we did the I mean,
everything was just absolutely I mean it's just it's gorgeous,
and but you're just you're hop naked the whole time, right, yeah, drinking,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's just yeah, it was awesome. So no, we needed
that time alone.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What what about you, Heather, is that something? Sorry? I
know you're heaving your quall, but was now you take
a minute. Well we'll go to Kono. On this one,
I took aim by. Yeah, sorry about that. I should
you know? That was? That was on me Conna. Where'd
you guys go? Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We went to Mali.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh that's lovely.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
It was.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It was beautiful and there's absolutely no chance I would.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I would invite my friends like that was just great
to have me and my wife there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I really liked being with I love being alone with
my wife. Now we're a party of three, so I
and I don't see it any different. It's really strange,
but being a family of three, I I don't like
not being with the two of them. I like us
being as a family together all the time. And I
know some parents are like, oh, I can't wait to
(15:41):
have a date. And it's not that I don't love
being with my wife alone. I do. We have those
moments in that time. But being a family of three,
it's like I miss when Max isn't with us. But
for a honeymoon, yeah it was. It was nice to
go and travel, but and to do all those things.
(16:02):
But I guess we probably grew out of culturally, we
probably grew out of the fact that we were around
our families all the time. Anyways, you had these little
communes almost, you know, early cultures, where you keep generationally
people around you, and maybe we're kind of going back
(16:22):
to that. So, Heather, now that you have enjoyed your quissant,
what did you guys do something special for a honeymoon?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, well we did. You know, I've been married a
very long time. I'm a very old lady and my
husband I am an old lady. We're coming up on
twenty five years. My husband and I very long Yeah,
we went to We both.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like exploring cities and things like that.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So we went to Boston and my husband rented I
got a airb bed and breakfast in Boston Back Bay,
and we stayed, which is where he's from originally. And
we stayed there for a few days, and then we
took a train down the coast to New York City
and we just partied like people in their twenties do
who are in love. And New York during the early
(17:09):
two thousands was a special place to be and we
just had the best time. We did not I would
have died if my mom had been there, it would
have been horrendous or any of our family, honestly. But
what we did do before we left was we invited
all of our friends and family that had flown in
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for our wedding to have like a special brunch and
hang out with us at our hotel before we left.
So we got to spend one or one time with
everybody other than just because you know, when you're getting married,
the night of the wedding is very busy and chaotic
and you're running around and you don't really feel like
you get to spend time with people. So we wanted
to make sure that we had some time to really
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talk to and spend with those people who flew in
for our wedding before we left.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Boston's gorgeous, and I love New York as well, at
least you know it's going through changes. But yeah, nothing
says I love you, like visiting hundreds of year old
cemeteries in Boston.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He too, He goes, We're gonna go on this really
cool like walk about like walk and you know it's
called the it's called like the North Trail or the Yeah,
and I was like, this is like three miles long.
And I wore really cute shoes. Why didn't you tell
me that we were literally going to go on a hike.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Through Bosta Heads up?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, give a girl, heads up. But it was so fun.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
We went and we did the whole tea party thing
where you you know, pushed the tea over the boat
and the North End area was beautiful in Boston and
it was just it was so it was so perfect
for us because that's what we like to do. We
like to go explore cities and see old buildings in history.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You know, we're both the history. Yeah, yeah, culture and
stuff that we really you know, people would always look
at the places we chose and they're like really yeah,
But it's that kind of like exploration is interesting. You know.
You we were talking about Hollywood earlier, and I will
tell you that everyone famous on the West Coast is
(19:16):
like actors and sports people. Everyone famous on the East
Coast are our forefathers. Like everyone there, it's like it's
all about people that did things that actually made changes
and did things, created things, started things, and it's so funny.
So you go over there and everyone they celebrate is
(19:38):
famous for actual things.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Or to the West Coast, lustre yeah, we're like you too.
We have we're a party of three because I have
my daughter.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
And I cannot remember what life was like before she
was a part of our lives and I love she
comes everywhere with us. We go on vacations with her,
you know, even our anniversary this year, she came with
us because we went to a really nice restaurant downtown
and she really wanted to go, and you know, we
(20:09):
were going to spend.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You know, lots of date nights together.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
After she, you know, moves on and goes to college,
it'll just be the two of us. But we just
have this one window of time where we can celebrate
these moments and spend time with her.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So yeah, and well, they're growing up right. I was
kind of a traditionalist in some ways, where like, if
you asked me academically prior to having a child, you know,
would you let them sleep in your venue? No, it's
the marital bed. It's ridiculous. They get their own room,
their own bed. You teach them to be independent. Minute
my boy was born, I'm like, you're never leaving myself
(20:44):
with us forever.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. It's like I tell him in the morning. The
first thing I tell him. You know what I can't
wait for is us cuddling tonight. Yeah, like I'm already.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You're just a big mushy dad.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I just I love it and we're pals. And but
my wife and I have a great love story. We
have a great love story. And you know where, we
got married older in our late thirties, and so we
had ten years to travel and do stuff prior to
Max being born. So you know, so we we lived
(21:20):
a whole lot of life. But like, I really that
the thought of missing, you know, a day with him
and her together is like weird to me. Yeah, we're
both of them all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I'm in the same but I totally agree. I love
my little family.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I also want to eat them. Is that weird? There's
something about little baby flesh. I mean he's eight now.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well I think it's okay to eat babies. But we'll
maybe become kids. You have to you have to kind
of pull it back.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Okay, I'll stop talking. You know, none of us like bullying,
and I used to be of the mindset that, you know,
it's kind of part of growth. It sucks, but it happens.
And although I don't recall being bullied, at all. It
doesn't mean that, you know, school life was always great.
(22:11):
You get in conflicts or have issues or whatever, and
you know since the sixth grade or something, being part
of the punk rock movement back then was not you know,
it was a different thing for somebody my age back then,
and the hair news that came with it, and the
trashed clothing and everything else. So I get that I
(22:34):
wasn't always somebody's cup of tea. But who cares. They
were usually stupid jocks and you know, screw them right,
look at me, huh cause of division, stupid jocks, edgy
edgy right there? AnyWho. So I get that there is
differences basically, and this is our life even when we
(22:56):
grow up. It's about culture. Everybody wants to make about
color or race or these things, but the reality is,
when it comes down to it, it's about culture. People.
If you infringe on their culture, their beliefs, their comfort zones,
they get annoyed. Now, the color of your skin or
uniform or things like this make people believe they know
(23:19):
what your culture is immediately.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
And.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That really can be at a point of bullying. Now,
there are psychological issues going on too, but there has
been a lot of There have been a lot of
myths about bullying throughout the years, like they come from
bad homes. Not necessarily, they can come from good homes.
(23:44):
There's just a predisposition sometimes or the thought that people
go through that they bully. And back in the day
it was different. You didn't have social media, it wouldn't
become something permanent usually that would last forever. And so
it's gotten worse. And I think about that as a
(24:05):
father now, because you get territorial, you become a different
beast when you're a parent, because it's your job to
protect and to care for someone differently. And Tennessee is
doing something interesting. So bullying in Tennessee now comes with
a different penalty, a new penalty for teens, and that
(24:27):
is losing their privilege to drive. So Tennessee lawmakers have
passed a new law aimed at stopping bullying in schools
by hitting teens. You know where they live, and that
is they want to drive, they want to be free
and have independence. So starting on the first of July,
(24:48):
just a few days ago, any minor found guilty of
bullying or cyber bullying in juvenile court will lose their
driving privileges. For one year. You know, keep in mind,
driving is not a right, it's a privilege. And this
was a bipartisan measure passed with incredibly strong support, gaining
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eighty five votes in the House, twenty six in the Senate.
And I'm I'm kind of glad to see this because
the consequences of bullying are different. Now you've got tech
on your side, whether it's with you know, boys or girls.
But the ability to use AI to strip somebody of
(25:37):
their clothing or to do these types of things and
make these permanent marks on people's lives is horrific. And
to see them turning it up and saying, Okay, if
this is the ground you want to play on, then
we're going to hit you where it hurts. We'll see
(25:58):
if this works. But it interesting times indeed. Okay, this
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iHeartRadio app. Happy fourth July two hundred and fifty, two
hundred and fifty years right, there's one pretty awesome look
at us. We don't look a year over two hundred.
(00:24):
I'd love it. A great experiment continues. I, for one,
am a proud American of Mexican descent. My dad was
God rest his soul, a very proud Chicano. And my
mom continues to be proud. She comes from English, Irish
(00:49):
and Scottish stock. Salma Mutt. I'm a little half breed,
although I identify as a Latino because that's you know,
that's what I know, that's what you know. I had
the benefit of multiple cultures in my life. But I
will tell you this, my dad was made it very
(01:12):
important to fly the flag on special occasions and the
like and make me be a part of it. I
remember distinctly going out and putting the flag up. My father.
It doesn't matter, It doesn't mean that he was always
thrilled with things. You know. The farm workers Eagle was
(01:37):
probably one of the first, you know, symbols or things
that I saw. And my dad was a silk screener
and a designer at the time, and I remember seeing
that as a kid on silk screens and T shirts
and the like. But also it was a big deal.
The Space program was a big deal, and Apollo was
a big deal. Hence my name Neil Edwin Savadra named
(02:00):
after Neil Armstrong and buzz Edwin Aldron. So you know,
I get a lot of that patriotism from my father,
and so on days like this on the fourth July,
I know that there's a lot going on and things
that I'm certainly not proud of. I don't want to
see immigrants you know that are yes, I get it,
(02:24):
they're paperless and they're undocumented, But I don't want to
see those that come here to work hard and and
be our neighbors get taken up and put into either
jail or just deported willy nilly without people thinking through it.
(02:46):
The criminals get them off. Now, if you go to
the fact that, oh, well they came here illegally, they're criminals, No,
that's said. That is different. That's a civil crime in
most instances, unless they were deported and came back life.
But all this to say that I'm still very proud
of what we have here in the United States, and
(03:07):
I think it's an incredible country. And so today I
hope that you see that through the fog of chaos,
that we the people still stand head and shoulders above
any one person in any office at any time, and
that there's still many things to be thankful for, and
hopefully the chaos that is going on as far as
(03:29):
the raids and life will you know, more level heads
will prevail on understanding the difference. I will tell you this.
I had a conversation with my wife, Tracy, who's incredibly smart,
and she doesn't refer to them as the undocumented. She
refers to them as the unprotected. Because both sides, which
(03:53):
is why I'm not a member of either party. I think.
I think there are idiots on both sides, and I
think the only way it can work is if you
shuffle the deck between the two. But I thought that
that's exactly right. Everybody's turned their head, and now we
have these poor people that are unprotected because nobody did
(04:15):
it properly. Nobody. You know, Trump is back in office,
I get it, but there has been plenty of Democrats
that have been in office that haven't changed any of this.
So a tiny little bit of rant because the sorrow
that I feel for people that are working hard here
(04:39):
and are good, hard working, kind people, better than a
lot of people that were born here and trust me,
and they're getting the short end of the stick, not
because of Trump. He may be doing it ugly, and
there's no doubt about that in my mind. What he's
doing is ugly and inhumane in many cases, but everyone
(05:02):
is to blame because they are completely unprotected with zero
zero given to them by either side, because leaving them
unprotected led to this, and at any time there could
have been a reform that protected them at any time
(05:27):
with many Democrats. So I know it's easier to blame
one or the other, or just you know, blame the
side that you don't adhere to. But as somebody who
stands very strongly in the middle and is a rationalist,
which is really hard these days, when everybody wants to
(05:49):
wear the badge of emotions. Nobody thinks anymore, nobody understands
rational thinking and processing thought and reason and all those things.
Everybody wants to be emotional. Oh but don't you think
that this is sad. Well, yeah, there's a lot sad.
Sad that people die, even naturally, but the rationale has
(06:12):
gone out the window. And I think because we ignore
what both. You know, if it's not your side, you
ignore it. There is many much smarter people than I
that have gone through the century saying all you need
to do is divide a group, and they forget who
the real enemy is, because the enemy is the one
(06:34):
that's separating the group to make them not think together.
So we both you know, whoever it is, we both
on either side, or we all as American probably the
better way to say, have a hand in this. And
that's probably one of the hardest things to get over
on this Fourth of July is for it to be
(06:55):
cloaked in the ugliness that is going on with raids
that seem mindless and zero tolerance, which I'm not a
fan of. When they brought that into the schools, you
remember kid came to school with an aspirin or something
in their lunch box and they were expelled or something
(07:15):
because zero tolerance for you know, drugs or a plastic
knife to cut their bagel and were kicked out of
school because zero tolerance. On weapons. Zero tolerance means zero thinking,
and so that's a lot of the stuff that we're seeing.
Just a little soapbox. I'll climb down off it, get
(07:38):
the soap out, wash my body, keep it clean America.
So Los Angeles has, you know, a lot of warts.
I love my city and always have, but you know,
there's a weird crap that goes on in the city.
They're just one of the things I remember growing in
relationship with my wife after we got married, we moved
(08:01):
in together the very day we got married, and living
in Hollywood that whenever we saw something weird, I would
just shake my head and smile and say, totally normal.
This is totally normal. This is the way life is.
You see Barney the Purple Dinosaur walking down the street
with Darth Vader having a chat. Totally normal guy dressed
(08:25):
as a skeleton in the middle of summer, nowhere near Halloween.
Totally normal. All these things. But what I don't like
is the I guess, the tourism aspect, not the healthy,
you gotta have it tourism, but the weird stuff. And
Los Angeles is now putting a halt to some of this,
(08:46):
and that's the disaster tourism. So here we are, six
months or whatever after the January firestorm devastating two massive
communities in Los Angeles, and you know, people are taking
these buses to drive by and look at the disaster. Now.
(09:11):
I understand curiosity and all those things. I get it.
I understand how one could look at this and say, well,
you know, I want to see what took place and
the devastations, understand the news in a different way, and
get all of that. But these kind of disaster tours
going on that are being conducted in Pacific Palisades and
the like, finally had Tracy Park, a Los Angeles City
(09:36):
Council member, at a council meeting this week, say they're
looking to profit off the destruction in other people's losses
and it's really gross and it needs to be stopped.
And I can't argue with that. I can't look at
that and say, oh, you're overreacting. It's pretty gross. And
(10:00):
you know, we hear about those things, you know, people
making money during COVID or wartime, uh, you know, making
money during war and the like, and it's just what
they profiteering or whatever. It's it's gross. And you see
this in this context and these disasters that strike. Now.
I remember I was in where were we? I was
(10:28):
in Louisiana in New Orleans? After what was the big one?
And what was the it was? It wasn't was it Katrina? No,
it was before Katrina? I think. Anyways, there was a
(10:49):
massive hurricane and we were there probably six months after
or so. And you you couldn't drive down the road
and not see these things. But we weren't there to
see those things. We were there to put money back
into the economy and to go and to visit some
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family and things like that. So you had to see it.
But I wouldn't have thought of taking a bus around
to tour the devastation, I suppose. And if you are
in that disaster zone where the fires took place and
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people are still dealing with the horrors of insurance and
red tape and all of this garbage, to be gawking
at it, it just seems a little odd. So good
on them. I hope that they're able to, you know,
stop this put a halt to the disaster tourism that
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these buses are doing. In the Palace States. It's bad
enough that they go to you know, famous people's home
which just seems I mean, I've always wanted to do
it as a tourist, like go go through things in
la as a tourist, to see what it's like all
these things that there, because you'd walk through these areas
and you'd have people handing you these lit leafless all
(12:15):
the time, and you just go, I'm a local. I'm
a local. I'm a local. But to act like a
tourist in your own town and see what, see where
these buses go. But you know a lot of times
the person had moved out years before and things like that.
But I found this gross and good on them for
trying to put a stop to that. And we'll see
how that goes down, all right. I took my honeymoon
(12:40):
with my wife in India. We went to India and
it was gorgeous and lovely. I didn't think of bringing
my mother or Tracy's mother or family with us, but
I wouldn't have had a problem with it. There's a
story in the Wall Street Journal that couples are starting
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to invite parents or relatives, sometimes even friends on their
post wedding trips that we traditionally think of as the
honeymoon period. This is you know the time where you're
connecting physically and you know, celebrating the bond that comes
with marriage. But maybe it's the modern world when the
(13:30):
reality of someone saving themselves for marriage is not common
and so you know, passion is already kicked in prior
to the wedding in many cases. And no judgment, I'm
not here to say. I know that there's faith reasons
and things like that, and people can talk about those
(13:52):
things a separate conversation. And this, to me, it's the
concept of sharing your you're bond with other members of
the family in this sense, I don't have a problem
with it. Now. Producer and and I talked about she
went to you went to Tahiti. I don't know would
(14:14):
you would you have wanted to bring friends and family
or no? No, because you tell me that it was
just a beautiful I mean it was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We did the overwater bungalow, we did the I mean,
everything was just absolutely I mean it's just it's gorgeous,
and but you're just you're hop naked the whole time, right, yeah, drinking,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's just yeah, it was awesome. So no, we needed
that time alone.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What what about you, Heather, is that something? Sorry? I
know you're heaving your quall, but was now you take
a minute. Well we'll go to Kono. On this one,
I took aim by. Yeah, sorry about that. I should
you know? That was? That was on me Conna. Where'd
you guys go? Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
We went to Mali.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh that's lovely.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
It was.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It was beautiful and there's absolutely no chance I would.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I would invite my friends like that was just great
to have me and my wife there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I really liked being with I love being alone with
my wife. Now we're a party of three, so I
and I don't see it any different. It's really strange,
but being a family of three, I I don't like
not being with the two of them. I like us
being as a family together all the time. And I
know some parents are like, oh, I can't wait to
(15:41):
have a date. And it's not that I don't love
being with my wife alone. I do. We have those
moments in that time. But being a family of three,
it's like I miss when Max isn't with us. But
for a honeymoon, yeah it was. It was nice to
go and travel, but and to do all those things.
(16:02):
But I guess we probably grew out of culturally, we
probably grew out of the fact that we were around
our families all the time. Anyways, you had these little
communes almost, you know, early cultures, where you keep generationally
people around you, and maybe we're kind of going back
(16:22):
to that. So, Heather, now that you have enjoyed your quissant,
what did you guys do something special for a honeymoon?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, well we did. You know, I've been married a
very long time. I'm a very old lady and my
husband I am an old lady. We're coming up on
twenty five years. My husband and I very long Yeah,
we went to We both.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like exploring cities and things like that.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So we went to Boston and my husband rented I
got a airb bed and breakfast in Boston Back Bay,
and we stayed, which is where he's from originally. And
we stayed there for a few days, and then we
took a train down the coast to New York City
and we just partied like people in their twenties do
who are in love. And New York during the early
(17:09):
two thousands was a special place to be and we
just had the best time. We did not I would
have died if my mom had been there, it would
have been horrendous or any of our family, honestly. But
what we did do before we left was we invited
all of our friends and family that had flown in
(17:29):
for our wedding to have like a special brunch and
hang out with us at our hotel before we left.
So we got to spend one or one time with
everybody other than just because you know, when you're getting married,
the night of the wedding is very busy and chaotic
and you're running around and you don't really feel like
you get to spend time with people. So we wanted
to make sure that we had some time to really
(17:50):
talk to and spend with those people who flew in
for our wedding before we left.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Boston's gorgeous, and I love New York as well, at
least you know it's going through changes. But yeah, nothing
says I love you, like visiting hundreds of year old
cemeteries in Boston.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He too, He goes, We're gonna go on this really
cool like walk about like walk and you know it's
called the it's called like the North Trail or the Yeah,
and I was like, this is like three miles long.
And I wore really cute shoes. Why didn't you tell
me that we were literally going to go on a hike.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Through Bosta Heads up?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, give a girl, heads up. But it was so fun.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
We went and we did the whole tea party thing
where you you know, pushed the tea over the boat
and the North End area was beautiful in Boston and
it was just it was so it was so perfect
for us because that's what we like to do. We
like to go explore cities and see old buildings in history.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You know, we're both the history. Yeah, yeah, culture and
stuff that we really you know, people would always look
at the places we chose and they're like really yeah,
But it's that kind of like exploration is interesting. You know.
You we were talking about Hollywood earlier, and I will
tell you that everyone famous on the West Coast is
(19:16):
like actors and sports people. Everyone famous on the East
Coast are our forefathers. Like everyone there, it's like it's
all about people that did things that actually made changes
and did things, created things, started things, and it's so funny.
So you go over there and everyone they celebrate is
(19:38):
famous for actual things.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Or to the West Coast, lustre yeah, we're like you too.
We have we're a party of three because I have
my daughter.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
And I cannot remember what life was like before she
was a part of our lives and I love she
comes everywhere with us. We go on vacations with her,
you know, even our anniversary this year, she came with
us because we went to a really nice restaurant downtown
and she really wanted to go, and you know, we
(20:09):
were going to spend.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You know, lots of date nights together.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
After she, you know, moves on and goes to college,
it'll just be the two of us. But we just
have this one window of time where we can celebrate
these moments and spend time with her.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So yeah, and well, they're growing up right. I was
kind of a traditionalist in some ways, where like, if
you asked me academically prior to having a child, you know,
would you let them sleep in your venue? No, it's
the marital bed. It's ridiculous. They get their own room,
their own bed. You teach them to be independent. Minute
my boy was born, I'm like, you're never leaving myself
(20:44):
with us forever.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. It's like I tell him in the morning. The
first thing I tell him. You know what I can't
wait for is us cuddling tonight. Yeah, like I'm already.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You're just a big mushy dad.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I just I love it and we're pals. And but
my wife and I have a great love story. We
have a great love story. And you know where, we
got married older in our late thirties, and so we
had ten years to travel and do stuff prior to
Max being born. So you know, so we we lived
(21:20):
a whole lot of life. But like, I really that
the thought of missing, you know, a day with him
and her together is like weird to me. Yeah, we're
both of them all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I'm in the same but I totally agree. I love
my little family.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I also want to eat them. Is that weird? There's
something about little baby flesh. I mean he's eight now.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well I think it's okay to eat babies. But we'll
maybe become kids. You have to you have to kind
of pull it back.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Okay, I'll stop talking. You know, none of us like bullying,
and I used to be of the mindset that, you know,
it's kind of part of growth. It sucks, but it happens.
And although I don't recall being bullied, at all. It
doesn't mean that, you know, school life was always great.
(22:11):
You get in conflicts or have issues or whatever, and
you know since the sixth grade or something, being part
of the punk rock movement back then was not you know,
it was a different thing for somebody my age back then,
and the hair news that came with it, and the
trashed clothing and everything else. So I get that I
(22:34):
wasn't always somebody's cup of tea. But who cares. They
were usually stupid jocks and you know, screw them right,
look at me, huh cause of division, stupid jocks, edgy
edgy right there? AnyWho. So I get that there is
differences basically, and this is our life even when we
(22:56):
grow up. It's about culture. Everybody wants to make about
color or race or these things, but the reality is,
when it comes down to it, it's about culture. People.
If you infringe on their culture, their beliefs, their comfort zones,
they get annoyed. Now, the color of your skin or
uniform or things like this make people believe they know
(23:19):
what your culture is immediately.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
And.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That really can be at a point of bullying. Now,
there are psychological issues going on too, but there has
been a lot of There have been a lot of
myths about bullying throughout the years, like they come from
bad homes. Not necessarily, they can come from good homes.
(23:44):
There's just a predisposition sometimes or the thought that people
go through that they bully. And back in the day
it was different. You didn't have social media, it wouldn't
become something permanent usually that would last forever. And so
it's gotten worse. And I think about that as a
(24:05):
father now, because you get territorial, you become a different
beast when you're a parent, because it's your job to
protect and to care for someone differently. And Tennessee is
doing something interesting. So bullying in Tennessee now comes with
a different penalty, a new penalty for teens, and that
(24:27):
is losing their privilege to drive. So Tennessee lawmakers have
passed a new law aimed at stopping bullying in schools
by hitting teens. You know where they live, and that
is they want to drive, they want to be free
and have independence. So starting on the first of July,
(24:48):
just a few days ago, any minor found guilty of
bullying or cyber bullying in juvenile court will lose their
driving privileges. For one year. You know, keep in mind,
driving is not a right, it's a privilege. And this
was a bipartisan measure passed with incredibly strong support, gaining
(25:13):
eighty five votes in the House, twenty six in the Senate.
And I'm I'm kind of glad to see this because
the consequences of bullying are different. Now you've got tech
on your side, whether it's with you know, boys or girls.
But the ability to use AI to strip somebody of
(25:37):
their clothing or to do these types of things and
make these permanent marks on people's lives is horrific. And
to see them turning it up and saying, Okay, if
this is the ground you want to play on, then
we're going to hit you where it hurts. We'll see
(25:58):
if this works. But it interesting times indeed. Okay, this
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