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August 20, 2025 22 mins
(August 20, 2025)
Guns or weed? The federal government says you can’t use both. Why is everything spicy now? Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about the effectiveness of memory supplements, a shortage of doctors, and the American Academy of Pediatrics parting ways with RFK Jr.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I Am six forty Bill Handle here on a Wednesday morning,
August twentieth.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Some of the big stories we're looking.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
At is well Israel and the Palestinians, but not the
story of the war. Israel just gave final approval for
a settlement project in the West Bank that would effectively
cut the territory in two. You can forget about a
Palestinian state there. I mean, it's going to go right across.

(00:38):
And that's the very very right wing government in Israel,
all right. Also ask Handle anything. We do that every Friday,
and we ask you to ask me questions, personal questions,
and we just have fun doing that at eight thirty
on Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:07):
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be any question.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I don't want your opinion, any question that you have
personal otherwise, and I'm pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Loose about that. I answer the questions and it's great fun.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
People love it, and I don't now that's and then
Neil chooses the question, here's an interesting one about the
Trump administration that is kind of surprising, and this is
actually against those people that are in favor of guns

(01:41):
gun advocates. What the government wants to do is ask
the Supreme Court to make it clear that regular pot
smokers and other drug users should not be allowed to
own firearms. Now, we're not talking about people that are
high owning firearms or using firearms. I'm talking about people
that have that have smoke pot. The government knows they

(02:04):
smoke pot. The government has arrested them for smoking pot
if you can those states, or any kind of a
pot violation, driving under the influence and what you have,
or laws that make it a crime for drug users,
even drug users in.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
The past to use, to be allowed to have a gun.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
In other words, a crime for drug use can't be
used against someone just based on past drug use. And
the government is saying we don't want those people to
have guns. Now, this is the gun's right, administration, this
is the gun's right. They fought the law that said

(02:46):
you have to be twenty one years old to own
a gun. The government fought that like crazy, arguing that
the age for owning a gun should be anyone past
six years old should be able to own a weapon.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Maybe, well, what is a little weird if you can
go into the military at eighteen yep and have a
gun and then when you get out of the military
you can't.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
It used to be smoking.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Also used to be voting until they made it eighteen
what it used to be more.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Concerned bill about some but somebody drinking or someone using
cocaine and a gun than you would marijuana. Well, any
kind of drug use smoke pot and go on a
shooting spree.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Right, but the government and the government is saying exactly that.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
But in pat let's say you.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Smoke pot recreationally or you get caught up in some
kind of a raid, that does not necessarily mean you
cannot own a gun.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
The government is saying you shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Have a gun, which is very contrary to a gun
advocate position. This is a real strange one and people
don't understand this.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean, this is a Justice department saying.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Hey, you've ever gotten hold of a gun, you're not
going Or you've ever gotten hold of a drug, You're
not going to be able to own a gun.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
You know, many people in America actually have smoked pot.
I mean, let's go around and have you smoked pot ever?
Of course? Okay, no gun for you every morning? Okay,
of course, Amy, you ever smoked pot? Yep, but not
for one hundred years.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
No pot, No gun for you, because there is no
limitation on that.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Neil pot three times.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
No gun for you, even if you didn't Inhale will pot.
No gun for me, No gun for you, Nope, guns
for me.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You've never smoked pot. All the guns, I'll take guns.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Please.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Wow, you're that stupid, naturally come at me, bro, you
know what, Cono. I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I just don't believe it. I don't. I don't believe it.
Lindsay's over here going with a disappointment. I don't believe it.
I don't believe it. Kno.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's like, uh, you know, it's like men masturbating. Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
There are only two people, men who do and liars.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So uh in the same uh sort of the same
way is there are two kinds of people, people who
say they smoke pot or liars who say they never have.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Maybe that's why you're so thin. It could be, yeah,
hoodie and will.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Or will You've obviously smoked your fair amount of pot,
haven't you? Wow?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Okay, I mean pizza does sound really good.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Oh, there you go, especially when you're high, which is
why you see so many haggind We see so many
basket robin store right next to dispensaries.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I hated pot. I couldn't stand it. I have not
smoked pot. I smoke it three times when I was
sixteen or something and didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
We can tell because you still call it pot.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, grass, I call it. I call it grass, and
I get so much hassle. Uh, you are so dated,
you are so old.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
What do you call it now?

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Weed?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
No, I call it pot or cannabis. Cannabis.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's another thing. No one ever called it cannabis. I
mean cannabis. That was the scientific name that you would
use just in some weird just if you're doing a
paper or you're referring to it somehow scientifically, it was cannabis.
Now it's cannabis. Very strange. All right, we're done, All right?

(06:49):
Question everything everything is spicy these days. We are on
this spice kick, and it's getting more and more so.
There's a documentary on peppers. And there's a guy who
created the Carolina Reaper and Neil. You know about this.

(07:11):
Scoville is the way they measure heat levels. Tabasco is
five thousand on the Scoville heat units. Haabanaro's three hundred
and fifty thousand Scoville units.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I mean, that's hot as hell.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
The Carolina Reaper two point two million, and they have
contests people that kills people.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I don't get how people eat bad.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
So Wilbur Scolville is the one who came up with that,
the Sculville units. And like you said, you've you know,
let's say hallipan, you know, which is something that everybody
has eaten. There between I don't know, two thousand and
thirty five hundred Scoville. So when you're talking in the millions,
you can imagine how hot it is. But here there's

(07:59):
so many changes. A lot of people don't understand that
your taste buds and the part that experience heat, the
heat comes from capsaicin. It's an oil in these peppers.
That which is why water doesn't help people. If you
drink water, it's it spreads the oil. That's why you
need dairy drink milk, or you have cheese or something

(08:20):
that encapsulates it. But you can build up calluses sort
of and you can end up slowly training yourself. But
I have a spin for you handle that people may
not think. In most places that are hot, they eat

(08:42):
hot things, either with capsaicin or temperature hot. And the
reason is, and there is some science behind this, is
that it produces sweat. And when it produces sweat, then
it cools your body off. So what if just a theory,
what if because the things are heating up and you
have climate change, that more people are eating hot things

(09:05):
to cool down.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Okay, And that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
However, outside of climate change, and this is a story
out of the Atlantic, the people the hotness level of
food across the board, process food, restaurant food is climbing
like crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
People just want heat for some reason. It has just expanded.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
And I'm saying way about not that what you say
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well maybe it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's a big what if, but there is change, and
I think some of it is is.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
A stimulant.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Let me ask this because when I love Indian food
and I love Thai food, and I never go beyond
mild or medium. And here's why Because I want flavor
and once you get it and to heat, that overrides flavor.

(10:05):
Absolutely yeah, And you're going to a restaurant, a good
restaurant that has really good flavor, flavorful foods. I mean
Indian food is particularly flavorful, certainly Thai food, Chinese food,
there's a lot of flavor to it. You put heat
in there that kills it, you might as well go
to a crap restaurant if.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
You want heat.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
My favorite type place in town is Jeet Lata and
it's fantastic. However, they have a part of the menu
that you have to sign a waiver to consume because
it is that hot. Another thing is food tech. Heat
used to be for heat's sake and maybe a novelty

(10:48):
for people that really wanted that stimulant. But now it's
gotten much better. They've they've balanced, the peppers have gotten
more flavorful, more floral have changed, and so it's not
just about the heat per se. The dishes have gotten better. However,
everywhere you look, chocolate, ice cream, all kinds of things

(11:11):
have heat in it.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Now.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I think there's a dozen or so different types of
you know, chips that you can get that Gods, I'm
trying to.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Think of the brand. The brand now the Cheetahs.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Cheetos, but you flame and hot flame and hot Cheetos.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
They have seventeen different kinds of flame and hot Cheetos
of just hot Cheetos.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Where my Latina is at what with their their bright
orange y red fingertips. So it's not going anywhere, It's
getting more. You went from like thirty some odd percent
of the population enjoying heat to fifty plus percent now

(11:54):
of consumers really loving the heat in their food.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
And it doesn't seem to be backing down at all,
and everybody's on board, every chip, everything.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Although I haven't changed my view towards heat, little tiny
bit kind of nice, A nice little tang is kind
of nice. Beyond that flavor, flavor flavor, which is why
I don't put Tabasco sauce on anything.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I've never understood that. Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I know, I know people that put Tabasco sauce in
their Matzi ball soup.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
That is a tough that's actually smart.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
No. No, yeah, I don't drink, so you can put
it in your bloody Mary all you want.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't care. But I like Manza ball soup.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I have actually been to Brent's Deli, of course, my
favorite deli in the world, and I saw someone put
Tabasco in their Manza ball soup. And I happen to
be talking to Ronnie, who owns brent Stelli, who's a
good friend, and I looked at him and I go
throw that person out, right now, you have the right
to refuse service.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Throw him out.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Do you think that person was Jewish?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, no chance none. All right, we are done. Doctor
Jim Keeney, Chief Medical Officers for the Officer for Dignity
Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach and certified and
from what I understand, pretty good er, doctor.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Jim morning, Oh there you are. Okay, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Question that I have for you, and that has to
do with well, memory supplements. I'm getting a little paranoid
because I keep on forgetting everything as soon as it
is said. And I was in Costco the other day,
of course, going to get a prescription and all those supplements,

(13:58):
memory supplements, your neriva or whatever. Let me ask you
do any of those help or is that just kind
of bs?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So here's the story. I mean, I can't just say
that they don't help at all. But at the same time,
it's a there's a lot of caveats there. So from
a memory standpoint, these type of supplements are just you know,
the kind of the icing on the cake. They're not
They're not really the real thing that's going to improve
your memory. So, you know, unless you have a deficiency. Right,

(14:30):
so there's certain say vegetarians who just for whatever reason
aren't getting enough B twelve, Well if they get a
B twelve you know, injection or B twelve vitamins, they
may change their memory because B twelve is very important
for the nervous system and brain function. The same thing
for OMEGA three fatty acids. You know, if you don't

(14:52):
have any in your diet, then then maybe taking those
might help. Same with vitamin D. So a lot of
these you can get tested. Your doctor can test you
for B twelve and vitamin D and see where you're at,
and if you're in a normal level, it is very
unlikely that supplementing those will help very much. You know,
when we talk about memory, the key things that are
going to help. Number one is sleep, getting adequate sleep.

(15:15):
You know, if you're getting four hours of sleep at night,
and you're tossing and turning, then your memory is going
to be shot. The other one is stress. If you're
under a lot of stress, that definitely impairs your memory.
And then things that will improve your memory, like physical activity,
exposure to sunlight during daylight hours, you know, doing things

(15:36):
mentally that are engaging, and especially social activities that are engaging.
Those are all like way more, that's way more important
for your memory. And then you know, taking the supplement
is just not going to do too much more.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Okay, So not that I'm forgetting more than I did before,
and you have and you and I have had many conversations,
and I have this issue with my wife and she
scream at me, saying, I just said this to you
and you've forgotten. At what point do you is someone

(16:08):
like me should be concerned about memory loss because I
am not happy about which way this thing may go.
Looking at my mother and what happened to her.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, so you can see your doctor get some basic
tests done. There are groups out there of their physicians
that are testing people for early signs of dementia and
that type of thing to see what we can do
to maybe change that. And then you can even get

(16:40):
testing where they're looking for those amyloid plaques and neurofibrillary
tangles and the different genetic testing for your risk for
Alzheimer's disease, and if you do have those, then there
are some medications, but honestly, those medications are a lot
like the vitamins. They're gonna They may slow progression slightly,

(17:02):
but they don't change the direction of a kind of
a a loss of memory for people with Alzheimer's disease.
So you know, it's again, it's one of those things
you talk to your doctor about that you see what
testing you know you can get done. There isn't really
a magic fix right now for aging, right so for
normal aging, which is you know, we all are definitely

(17:24):
have not and it's not all of us, by the way.
You know, there's these we call super super brains or
you know, super memory people who don't seem to be
affected by aging, and they they're just as good at
memory at age eighty as they were at age forty
or fifty.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
So if I go to the doctor and I get
cognitive testing, memory testing, and it looks like that, I'm
on my way and it's not a good thing.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Am I going to remember to kill.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Myself probably not, which is a good thing.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, it's a great thing, all right, Jim.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Big news about the American Academy of Pediatrics is parting
ways with RFK Department of Health and Human Services. This
is a big deal because the last time this happened
was decades ago.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
What's going on.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, So basically, the American Academy of Pediatrics is feeling
like the RFK administration is a little too political in
their recommendations. They want to make sure that they can
get what they consider unbiased information out there, and so
they have put out their own recommendations for childhood vaccinations,

(18:39):
especially for COVID nineteen shots. And what they're recommending is
they have a strong recommendation for ages six months to
twenty three months because of the high vulnerability to severe
illness in that age group, So they're recommending it and
then from two over twenty four months, two to eighteen.

(19:00):
And they're saying that if you live in a high
risk household or if you're previously unvaccinated, they still would
would want kids to get vaccinated and support broader access
for anyone else who wants it, so that you know,
compared to CDC where they drew a universal recommendation and
they just say, and you know, to get away with

(19:21):
not saying that they're not recommending vaccines. They're saying shared
clinical decision making with your physician. So that's the problem
is when when public systems don't recommend the vaccine, then
a lot of people just don't get them. And I
think the American Academy of Pediatrics decided that they needed
to step in.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Hey, RFK accused of the American Association Pediatrics for being biased,
for effectively being controlled by big pharma, and there was
a conflict there. I would think that the medical group
is unbiased and not affected by big farm.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Am I right on that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean, you know, people say, oh, doctors are making
all this money giving vaccines. That's not true. They mostly
lose money giving vaccines. The reimbursement for you know, giving
the vaccine itself is pretty low. I mean, the vaccine
company makes money, but the doctor doesn't make really much
off the vaccine. So if anything, and I guess said
some of them, they lose money, so they do it

(20:24):
as a as part of their service to their patients.
But they are they're more objective. I would say than
you know, than potentially a government group that is being
put there because you know, they're aware that if you
if you don't toe the line, you may not have
a job.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
And I mean it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
So is it fair to say that if you're talking
politics right now? The governmental agencies are riddled with politics
versus the medical groups.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I mean it seems that way, you know. And even
the accusations of you know, the corporate entanglements that the
American Academy and the pediatric members might have, they're really
you know, didn't you know RFKA was not able to
show any any evidence of that, so you know, I
don't know where he came up with that.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, how unusual. All right, Jim, we will talk again
next next week. As always, go kill someone, you know.
It's it's harder to say that because now you are
in management. It was much easier to say that when
you were actually in the er.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So it's harder for me to kill somebody now.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, I know, it's it doesn't have as much validity
as he did when you were in the r All right, Jim,
take care, you have a good day, all right, guys,
that's it. We're done coming up Gary and Shannon, and
it starts all over again Tomorrow morning. Will and Amy
and then and of course and KNO are here making
this thing run.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Neil and I jump in on a.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
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Speaker 3 (22:07):
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