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on vacation. We've got Heather Brooker coming up a little
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bit later talking about the Emmys.
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She was out there looking lovely. You see her.
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Dress, that pink dress, come on now, beautiful. So we'll
be talking to her coming up a little bit later.
So go nowhere, all right. Certainly a shock to hear
about or in our modern you know, see everything, know
everything culture, see someone get assassinated, especially somebody who's outspoken,
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because I don't know, it's just you just think that
we can talk through things or things you disagree on.
And I know that there's a lot of heat here,
but I want to point a little light on one
of the things that is growing out of this assassination
that shows more intensity and ugliness here in the US.
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So you have conservative activists, Charlie Kirk being assassinated, and
now on the political right, you have a good number
of people calling for harsh consequences against people who criticized
or mocked him. I mean there's a lot. I can't
watch it. It has nothing to do I knew very
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little about Charlie Kirk. I don't run in those circles,
even as a theology student and a theologian that Christian
dominionism or looking at the complete intertwining between faith and
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politics is not something I see as a good thing.
That doesn't mean that I disagree across the board with
Charlie Kirk. I'm sure there's many things that we would
agree on and many that we wouldn't. But you have
a lot of conservatives that are saying they want to
see harsh consequence of these people that went out publicly
and said good or even worse. They've gone after teachers,
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government workers, airline employees, and they're demanding that they be fired,
they be punished whatever actions they see fit for whatever
was said. I think even the Rocks daughter is I
saw something last night as I was falling asleep reading
the news and saw that she's under you know, the
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same criticism now about mocking the situation. So these actions
are coming to the surface. Even though conservatives have long
criticized the left for using cancel culture, I don't know
I put this on the same level. I know Kirk
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was a key ally to Donald Trump, and Donald Trump
the president is very controversial to a lot of people.
He's the leader of Turning Point USA, and his death
has sparked a lot. I mean Huntington Beach. Did you
see the crowd that showed up there as a vigil.
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So people have deep feelings about this. And I've said
this before and I'll say it again that the First
Amendment protects divisive speech. That's what it's there for. It's
not for HI, how are you good morning? That doesn't
need to be protected. The speech that needs to be
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protected is the speech that pisses people off, because that's
what you're gonna want to shut down, that's what you're
gonna want to make quiet. So I'm not a fan
of cancel culture at all.
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At all.
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I think if something's rotten, the old saying that rotten
fruit falls off the tree on its own, it'll eventually
fall off the tree. So if someone's really rotten it's
you know, it's going to fall off the tree on
its own. You don't have to force the situation. So
you've got grief on one end, and then you've got celebration,
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which is weird on another end. And I'm sure that's
happened with anybody that has been assassinated, believe it or not.
I'm sure there's people you like that were celebrated as
vulgar as it sounds. I'm sure when Martin Luther King
Junior was shot. And I'm not comparing these two, but
I'm saying when he was assassinated, I'm sure there were
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people that were thrilled, just as there was a country
mostly in mourning. The weird thing is, I don't want
to see someone lose their job for an opinion. But
then on the other side, I think I don't know
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that I want somebody that celebrates the death of Charlie
Kirk to teach my kid either to be at the
front of the classroom. Now my kids eight. Now, if
they were a college professor.
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I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Maybe I wouldn't care as much. I'd still care. I'd
think they were a horrible person to celebrate. When we
come back, I have deeper thoughts on this that are
going to pull at the core of how you think
and how I think, and the way we've been trained
through literature and media that puts a difference been on this,
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I think, and you got to hear me out. I
don't want people taking things out of context. I don't
want you to hear part. If you're not going to
listen to the it in its entirety, then go away,
go do something else. Because I have a thought on
this that's broader than just I think this is great
or I think this is horrible. We're talking about the
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aftermath of people that are more or less like you
and me. They go to work each day, they have
their own beliefs, whether they're intensely into politics or not,
whatever it is.
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But they have social.
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Media and they let it out, whether they were saddened
or grieving Kirk's death or whether they were pleased with it.
And people are on the conservative side are saying this
is horrific. Now, I said before that the First Amendment
is there for divisive talk. There's no reason to protect
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daily talk. It's about divisive talk, the hardcore, the stuff
we don't want to hear. That's the first part. The
second part is this and hear me to the end.
We are raised to celebrate the death of evil. I
don't care if it's Darth Vader. I don't care if
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it's Hans Gruber falling to his death from the Knakatomi Plaza.
You see people shot up in those movies that are
the bad guys, and we celebrate, we cheer, we're thrilled,
we grieve obi one, and we want the dark side abolished.
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So this is not about celebrating death. It's about that somebody,
many people apparently see Charlie Kirk or saw him as
the bad guy, because anybody who says you shouldn't celebrate
death is full of crap. I think it's horrific. I
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think it's abhorrent. I didn't want to look at these things.
I know very little about Charlie Kirk. The only way
I can see him is as a brother in Christ.
People are going online going, yeah, I know he was
a father and a husband, but you know who else
was dead? Bundy, And they start listening to this. But
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this guy didn't kill anybody. So I don't know how
you get to the point of seeing Charlie Kirk as
someone you do backflips. I've seen a black comedian say
he doesn't ever cry for white people dying. Some white
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guy dying, that's horrific too. All of these things could
be horrific. But we are programmed to celebrate the death
of an opponent. We are programmed to celebrate through literature
since the beginning of time, even scripture. And for some reason,
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Charlie Kirk hit that plateau, hit that level. Or people
either heard his words as hopeful, insightful and a path
to a better America, or they saw him as a racist,
homophobic demon. And for those that want to get up
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on a box and say it's horrific, like me to
celebrate someone's death, I went The first thing I did
is I went through a list of my beliefs and
the things that I love about this country, and I'm like,
who would I celebrate?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And you know, it hit me. Oh, I just got
the chilled. This is weird to say.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You know when I what I did when President Obama
walked out at around ten o'clock at night our time
and said that Osama bin Laden was dead. I walked
into my kitchen, I poured a glass of whiskey. I
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held it in the air, and I thanked God and
tossed it back.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Am I any better than these people should? Should I
lose my job again?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I don't want somebody that celebrates Charlie Kirk's death teaching
my eight year old kid.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't. I don't know if I want him at
the DMV.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Because if you celebrate that way, if you have that
much passion about politics, what if I do something you
don't like and now you mess with my you know,
driving record, or you mess with something because I'm the
enemy to you. That scares the crap out of me
that we're getting to that point. But I'm torn about
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about the point that I have celebrated someone's death. I
grabbed a glass of whiskey, I held it high. I
thanked God for Seal Team six and for President Obama.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
To get it done.
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Everybody has a demon, everybody has a devil, everybody has
the bad guy in their sights. Our problem here is
not that conservatives are pissed, and then if it was
the other way around, liberals would be pissed. The problem
is demonizing of other human beings because of their political beliefs.
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Do I know everything he believed? No? But do I
think he hated black people because he said, when I
get on a plane, I see a black pilot. I
don't know if he got there by merit, or by
DEI higher or by affirmative action. I don't think that's racist.
I think that is screaming at a system that is broken. Now,
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if he said other things, I would have to look
peace by peace at them. I'm not defending the guy.
I don't know his beliefs one hundred percent, but I'm saying,
if we celebrate another American being shot for their beliefs,
then we have made them the devil, the opponent. And
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if we're getting to the point where the temperature in
this country is you're either with me or against me,
that scares me because that's not healthy in a two
party system, which I think is a crap system. And
I'm not a part of either party. I'm a true independent.
I vote for Democrats and I vote for Republicans, depending
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on the need of the individual. And I hear people
say I'm an independent, and you asked them, when was
the last time you voted for this for you know,
one or the other, and they usually will just down
the line still vote Democratic or Republican. I don't, but
I will tell you a two party system makes you assume,
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like every movie, every piece of literature, that there is
a good and a bad, a right and a wrong,
and one of them has to be right and one
of them has to be wrong. Well, let me tell
you something. They both can be wrong and often are.
So if you're doing a dance, just remember you have
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to articulate why that person was a demon, and you
better be right. You can't go out there like Stephen King,
freaking wing nut, coming out and saying that Charlie Kirk
wanted Gaze stoned to death. So you better have your
facts right if you're going to demonize somebody. But on
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the flip side, you better have your facts right if
you're going to make someone a martyr. Neil Savader in
the Morning Crew handles on vacation. Just a lot to
start our Monday with. I hope you had a good weekend.
It was one of those things where I had a
little bit of time away from the news.
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And it was nice. It was nice.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But we're back at it. Heavy stuff. We'll move on
to taller stuff. How about that. You've got this construction
union very powerful here in California, and they were fighting
this bill that would ease these barriers on construction of
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tall apartment buildings New York train stations, bus stations and
stuff like that. Well they're not fighting anymore. It's very
controversial when it started, but it seems to be you know,
greasing up the right palms or whatever, and it's moving forward.
Paved the way for more apartment buildings. And this is
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particularly near these major bus stops, train subway stations across
urban California. So it's tiptoeing towards becoming a law. The
author of this law struck this last minute deal with
a long time political foe and they became fine. Happened
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to be one of the state's most powerful labor groups.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So what does this mean.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
These It means you're going to have these tall, ugly
ass buildings all over the place, and I'm kind of done.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I live in you know, an urban EA area.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Not far from downtown proper Los Angeles, so maybe seven
eight minutes depending on traffic. It's not that far, certainly,
but it is uh, you know, LA traffic. And I
live in an old home and I'm proud of that fact.
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That's why you'll hear me mention it because I like
I like old things, you know, I like. I don't
like things just being thrown away because they're thrown away.
My neighbor is my buddy, and he's out there fixing
his car all the time. And when people ask him,
why don't you just get used another used car or
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get me because it's still good. He just needs to
figure out the problem with it, fix it, and move on.
And I love that about it. I like fixing things too.
I spend a lot of time at the shop trying
to fix things to make them better. That's why I
like an old house. But I'm seeing them torn down
because there are two or R three, meaning they can
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build other buildings on them, and now they're looking to
go taller and all this, and they build these ugly
expensive cracker box buildings and it's not like it's affordable housing.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And it hits me.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
We talked about this on Friday with Built. What the
hell is affordable? Does it have to be affordable for
fifty percent of the population. Does it have to be
affordable because in Los Angeles you're probably making more than
sixty five seventy five thousand dollars now go into Middle
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America and that's a butt ton of money. Do you
know how few people make one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
In the United States?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So at what point do we say, you know what,
don't build here anymore, or we don't have the room.
Why do we need to keep making making more room?
You're gonna end up making it so dense. That's what
separated the West Coast from the East Coast in the
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first place. Go to New York and they're still having
problems with costs, because what do you do once it's
all filled up? Now everybody's living on top of each other.
You go to upstate New York, it's not that way,
but you go to Manhattan, they're all up under each other.
We don't want to be that. That's what sets it apart.
Having a backyard. Don't make me feel guilty that I
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want to have a backyard and I'm not building an
ugly cracker box on there, like some sons of bitches
have done.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
In our neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
There's people that came in, bought a house, lived there
for a couple of years, and then sold it up.
Meek little guy, I can see his face right now.
His beady little eyes want to punch him in the face.
And he sold it to put this disgusting cracker box
eight unit place there that are going for a million
dollars a pop. That's not affordable housing. That's not helping anybody.
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There are a thousand square feet. Why do we think
we need to house everybody here? There's plenty of room.
I've flown over the country. Hey, there's a lot of
flat light right there. Look at that flat lad Oh,
look at that that's flat. Nothing there, nothing there, nothing there.
We can't all live here. I don't know why we
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think we have to make room for everybody. Don't make
La New York. Don't make it Manhattan. We don't trust me.
Manhattan's different and at least they have a big ass park.
So anyways, I'm going to get down off, get down
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off my eye. Hors woo, Nelly more to come yay Monday.
I want to remind you again, Amy King and yours
truly are going to be going over the edge again
this month. We did it last year for the Union
Rescue Mission. And if you're not familiar with them, what
a great organization and the you can always tell by
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the people behind it and we've met you know, so
many Mike, Mark brother and Richard and just the people
are fantastic. So what we're doing is raising money for
the Union Rescue Mission and we'd love you to be
a part of that if you are so led or
moved to do so. So on the twenty sixth and
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the twenty second, they're doing this event that they do
every single year and is called over the Edge and
you actually repel, and we will be doing that repelling
over the side of the Hilton Hotel there right off
of the one on one freeway in Universal City, so
right there by Universal Studios, just up the street from
our studio here, and we'd love for you to donate,
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and you just need to go to RM dot org
slash o te for Over the Edge and look for
the KFI team. Amy's got her area, I've got my area.
She's super competitive, something about really wanting to beat me.
I think it's an obsession. But anyways, you can donate
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to either of us. It goes to the same place.
But let's uh, let's show her some humility, really knock
her down a notch, take her out at the knees.
She's like six' four let's take take her out at the.
Knees she's still going to be six Feet come, on be. Fine,
NO i am thrilled of. Anybody they have become a
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monthly donation one of my charities now BECAUSE i fell
in love with them last.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Year we grilled them.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Too amy AND i asked a lot of questions and
they gave us such wonderful. Answers they're not taking you,
know they're not getting money from the. Government they do
have partnerships with certain programs IN la through The mayor's
office and the, like but they really do it based on.
You as a matter of, fact they can't get government.
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Funds you know, why because they're a dry. Program you
have to want to get. Sober SO i love, that
and they have actual programs teaching and moving you. Forward so,
ANYWAYS i wanted to share that with you because it's
just one of those things That amy AND i. Do
we're super proud about it because it's such a good
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organization and we're thrilled to be doing it. Again it
is scary as. Hell i'm afraid of. Heights i've bungee
JUMPED i think at two hundred. Feet the building is
twenty five, Stories so that's roughly two hundred and fifty
feet carry the one and you go over backwards on
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a harness and it's oh, yeah And, amy did you
forget how high it? Was me?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Too.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah and then when you go and look over the,
edge and we have video of, it you get that
pit in your.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
STOMACH i, mean, like oh, no why AM i doing this?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Again my knees start to buckle and, vibrate like this
is not this is not.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Good you.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
KNOW i was at The, bonavtura The Western bonavicura hotel
in Downtown Las. La, gorgeous still, gorgeous stunning inside and
they Have Prime la, there The La prime rather their steakhouse,
there which is. Phenomenal you're looking for a great. STEAK i,
mean don't forget these. Plays And ellen k we were,
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there And menace was, there and we're all in the
elevator and you know that those glass elevators there that
you see going, up you know In. La And ellen's
like she took a peek and then she walked back
and she, goes she, Goes i'm afraid of. Heights that
just weirds me. Out AND i, said guess, What Amy
king AND i are doing. Network we're going to jump
off the side of a building In, september so appreciate.
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