October 2, 2025 • 28 mins
(October 02, 2025)
Neil Saavedra is in for Bill who is taking the day off for Yom Kippur. Jane Goodall dies at 91. The facts behind the gov’t shutdown debate over healthcare and immigrants in the US illegally. Most voters think America’s divisions cannot be overcome, poll says. Fox News channel surges past ABC, NBC, CBS, among weekday primetime viewers with dominant third quarter.
Neil Saavedra is in for Bill who is taking the day off for Yom Kippur. Jane Goodall dies at 91. The facts behind the gov’t shutdown debate over healthcare and immigrants in the US illegally. Most voters think America’s divisions cannot be overcome, poll says. Fox News channel surges past ABC, NBC, CBS, among weekday primetime viewers with dominant third quarter.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
AM six forty. You are listening to the Bill Handle Show.
Here's Neil Savedra, Monkey Monkey Tugy by AM six forty
(00:23):
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Hey everybody, Good morning,
Nil Savadr in the morning crew with you. Happy Thursday.
It's JOm Kippor today. So Bill Handle is taking the
day off for his deeply, deeply religious beliefs and we'll
be back tomorrow. Jane Goodall died ninety one years good
(00:47):
for her stands tall as one of those people that
permeates just about everyone's consciousness. We all knew about her
from whether it be documentaries or her speaking or I'll
tell you something how she ties to Disney coming up
(01:09):
in a moment too Amy k King. But Jane Goodall
most of us know. Renowned British primatologist, mythologist, anthropologist, a
bunch of ists. But really the groundbreaking work that you
know the movies were made out of and documentaries told
(01:31):
about was with chimpanzees in Tanzania. She was born April third,
nineteen thirty four in London, England. She had a deep
love that only got deeper for animals very early age,
fascinated with wildlife and in particularly Africa, and she said
(01:54):
they were sparked by such books as Tarzan of the Apes,
the Story of Doctor Doolittle. And she had no formal
scientific training and she started to travel to Kenya. This
was back in nineteen fifty seven. She met the famous
anthropologist Luis Leaky, who would later support and mentor her research.
(02:16):
And it's interesting if you follow her life and go
through her biographies the people that touched her life and
came in and out of her life, that guided and
gave mentorships as well. In nineteen sixty Goodall began her
landmark study of chimpanzees, and this was in a national
park there in Tanzania. What she observed became a totally
(02:44):
different scientific understanding of primates. She was the first to
document chimpanzees making and using tools, and that before that
we thought that was uniquely human, noted very complex social behaviors,
emotional expressions, even family bonds among chimpanzee communities. So all
(03:08):
these long held assumptions that we had that divided us
between chimpanzees and what we do, a lot of them
were squashed. All this work led to a PhD eventually
from the University of Cambridge, and she was one of
the few people to earn a doctorate without first obtaining
(03:30):
a bachelor's degree. I mean, she just is an incredible
and was an incredible person recognized globally as an advocate
for environmental sustainability, animal war, welfare, rather and youth empowerment.
As far as the Disney tie in, I love this
(03:50):
and that she when they were building in the nineteen nineties,
when they were building the Disney's Animal Kingdom there in floor,
she became one of the advisors. So Disney really wanted
to do it right, make sure that it was done
with integrity and with an understanding of the animal's needs
(04:13):
and not just throwing together, you know, a park. So
she reviewed the concept the whole time, provided guidance to
ensure that the facility, all the exhibits therein reflected you know,
good practices for animal care, authenticity in portraying wildlife. And
(04:35):
she was present during all that time, during its construction phase,
and she was there for the grand opening. And so
I went down that rabbit hole one time looking at
all the things she did there and being impressed with
everything that she brought to the table so much so.
One of the most visible tributes to her, to Jane
(04:55):
Goodall at the Disneyland parks there in Florida, is the
Tree of Life life sculpture that's there at Disney's Animal Kingdom.
There's a big plaque on it dedicated Jane Goodall and
a carving of David Graybeard, the first chimpanzee, rather to
approach her during her early research. And there's few people
(05:21):
in our lives that I think you hear their name
and they don't. They don't bring with it any luggage negatively,
and she is one of those people. And when I
heard of her passing yesterday, I started, you know, reading
(05:42):
more about her. And of course we've learned things in
school and then those of us have watched documentaries and
different interests comes our way. And there's something about certain
people that are single focused in life. And it's not
just knowing from a young age like she did, because
a lot of us, you know, from a young age
(06:04):
were turned on to something or became impassioned. It was
the integrity in which she did it. And there are
a handful of people that just transcend the garbage and
noise of life, politics, religion, social construct it. And she
(06:27):
did that, and I think that they the similarity is
always these people with a again with the word transcending,
a transcending view, a purpose, a goal, that it is
above the noise, and it's like they live in this
higher plane, not spiritual, but like that's above the social garbage.
(06:54):
And I'm wondering what we can take from her, not
just the studies and the science, but the quality of
the life that she chose to surround herself with. I mean,
she'd been married, I think at least twice. I mean,
her life wasn't perfect in any way, I'm sure, but
there's something about that single purpose. It seems like people
(07:15):
jump around, even activists, are jumping where the noise is
trying to get the most eyes on them, and where
she was quietly dedicated and only only took the linelight
when it was purposeful to push that single goal. And
there's a success in that. And I was once told
(07:37):
by one of the mentors here at KFI, Greg Ashlock,
great guy, love Greg, but he said that, you know,
reminded me one time that success, really successful people just
do what other people don't want to do, whether it's
lazy or uninspired, whatever it is, and that that consistency
(07:59):
and single purpose and focus I think that drives special
people like Jane Goodall can be a lesson to all
of us. It just it's superior than what most of
us do on a daily basis. It is, and I'm
not downgrading the things that we all do in our lives,
so I don't care what you're doing. It makes the
system go. But there's something about that single focus and
(08:24):
kind of leaving traditional once behind stuff things that clutter
our homes, those types of things, and the purest, simplest
way of living to be able to connect, in her case,
with nature teaches us a lesson. All right, So we're
going to shut down and we hear these terms all
(08:44):
the time. What does it really mean? We'll get more
into that, but let's look and see why, why what
is this happening? So the recent government shut shut down
day two, I think my guess is tomorrow, if we're
going to shutdown, that's when you're going to start hearing
at least it. I think people will start being laid
off tomorrow, that's my guess. But it's turned into this
(09:09):
heated political battle, as it always does. But in this case,
you're looking at immigration and healthcare, two big things with
Republicans obviously, including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Vice President JD. Vance.
So they're accusing of the Democrats. And really, if you're
going to get technical, Democrats are the ones holding this up.
But really, in a tug of war, they're both playing.
(09:34):
They're trying to give free health care to people living
in the US illegally. Democrats strongly deny this. They say
the proposal only aims to restore Medicaid coverage to certain
immigrants who are in the country legally or with government approval.
I'm not sure what the distance or difference between those
(09:56):
things are. If you have approval, that would be legally right.
So I'm not sure how they discern against what those
two things are. I'm sure there's some sort of detail
there that somebody will leave a talkback. The disagreement is
(10:17):
kind of the key reason Congress can't agree on how
to reopen the government. This is going to be the thing.
If you remember, the longest shut down I think in
our history was last time Trump was in. One side
may say because he's a pain in the ass. The
other side may say, well, you know what, he knows
what he wants, and he's not going to bow to garbage.
(10:37):
He's going to push until he gets it. So earlier
this year, a law called the One Big Beautiful Act
a Bill Act if you remember, was passed under the
Trump administration administration. So this had a bunch of rule
tightening on who among non citizens can get Medicaid, cut
out many groups who had previously been covered. Refugees, asylum seekers.
(11:00):
These are the folks you got to think about, people
granted special permission to enter the country. Democrats want to
include a wider range of legally present immigrants, so not
just those categories, but others. So about one point four
million people could lose their health coverage under the new
law if no changes are made. Now. My understanding though,
(11:26):
is anybody can walk into an er. It's one of
the issues with a legal immigration. Anyone can walk into
an ER and still get coverage. They can't turn you away. Now,
there could be some point if they find something and
you need other tests or what have you, but that
is one way. That's one of the burdens on the
(11:46):
system that some would complain saying, yes, but you know,
illegal immigrants can go in there and tax our system
just by using the er system. Republicans argue that some
of the immigrants, immigrants that Democrats want to help, brought
in under programs that they see as unlawful, especially ones
(12:07):
given parole under President Biden. These become a sticking point.
So these are folks from Venezuela. These could also be
Ukrainians by the way, that were allowed to enter for
humanitarian reasons. And I say that because on both sides,
and it bugs me on both sides. Whether you're Latino
(12:30):
Latino Latino and saying we got to protect immigrants, really
you don't care. You care about Latinos, and I you know,
if it was different immigrants coming, I think that it
would be different. That's why all of the immigration offices
and stuff in Los Angeles are all Latino focused. That's
(12:52):
the reality. But it does affect others as well. So
they were entering the US for humanitarians and could work
and live in the US legally. So the Trump team says, no,
those got to go those programs shouldn't get benefits. Legal
experts are looking at pointing out the other groups like
(13:14):
refugees asylum seekers clearly have recognized legal status so what
are you doing separating them? Medicaid obviously a big deal.
The only exception is for emergency hospital care like I
talked about, makes up in what they say is less
than one percent of Medicaid spending. Democrats insist they are
(13:34):
not trying to change that. Their focus, they say, is
on making sure millions of Americans keep getting help through
the Affordable Care Act. So some states already use their
own money to provide healthcare to undocumented residents, so that's
not something that would be messed with. But Republicans have
tried but failed to stop that in past legislation. So
(13:56):
this is at the core of the battle that's going on.
How does it affect us? You know, it almost gives
you an idea of how fat we are in the
government when they shut down, because you start looking at
your daily life. What does it, How does it pierce
your life? What kind of services are not going on?
(14:19):
Or if they are going on? Then you can't help
but think about the people who are doing their jobs
with their money furload. If they're going to have back pay,
that's the way it seems that it goes. But can
you deal with back pay? Do you want to deal
with back pay. A lot of people are hand to mouth,
(14:40):
they're living paycheck to paycheck, and that could be a
scary proposition. So having said those things, yes, heart goes
out to those that work in the government that are
affected by what's going on in the federal government. But
I got to tell you, it goes to show you
(15:03):
how battles. I always say that with the right and
the left, they're playing tuglewar, but we're the rope, and
it goes to show you, in a small sense, how
that affects us. Now, we're only seeing it from in
this case, from the outside in. We're looking at people
that are affected immediately, meaning they work for the government
(15:26):
and they either have to do their job without pay
for right now, or they're not working at all and
therefore having to shut the doors of certain services. That's
what we're dealing with on a bigger level in the
United States as a whole. Whenever there's a battle between
those two sides, we're going to be the ones losing.
(15:48):
And to me, it's another reminder of that it's not
about them who are serving us in these government positions.
That's just a reminder of how we're all affected all
the time. By squabbles and battles that go on between
the left and the right. So how is it going
to affect it, Well, there's tons of things. If it
(16:08):
continues to go on today being day number two, tomorrow,
I really believe that we'll start seeing some layoffs or
that card will be played more heavily tomorrow. I think
it will. I think it will actualize. I think that
kind of power. Trump doesn't seem like the type to
waste power moves, and if he is in that power seat,
(16:31):
I find it hard to believe that he won't utilize
that to cut some areas, if for nothing else being vindictive,
I don't put that past him. But on the flip side,
it could be cutting fat fat that they see on
the right. So what are some of those services? Public
(16:52):
safety is going to be at the top of that,
so our tax money funds police, fire departments, medical service,
emergency medical services, military. So if that is happening, this
is another point where they're going to be working either
without money, without pay for this time, at least not
(17:15):
immediate pay, or there will be some people furloughed or
things like that. It's probably one of the last things
they end up doing. But There's also a lot of
infrastructure that goes kind of without saying we don't see it,
we don't feel it. It just kind of does. It's
like breathing. It just happens, so we take it for granted.
(17:36):
But that could be any of the government agencies responsible
for maintaining roads. Do we even have that service in
LA I don't think so. Not in my Naty roads.
Potholes they should actually fill the potholes with homeless people.
They make little homes in them, transitional homes, building maintainings,
(18:02):
a bridge, public transportation, even airports, public parts. I mean,
I think the TSA is affected as well, so they're
not going to get paid right now while they're working. Infrastructure,
of course is a big deal. Utilities, essential services like water, sewage,
garbage collection. What does that mean that there won't be
(18:25):
garbage collection on garbage day during this? Is garbage collection
a federal government job? Well, that's what it's saying. But
I don't know that it would be. Isn't that logo
or maybe that is that is regulation of those things,
because that's got to be local, right, I would think so,
(18:45):
I don't know how that would deal with us specifically,
because I imagine garbage is going to be collected, but regulating,
I don't know what that means. In that does that
mean they're going to take toxic waste if you have
them picking up today? The US Postal Service delivers mail
and packages obviously, while the Federal uh Communications Commission regulates telecommunications.
(19:09):
I don't know that that's going to cause any major
problems within the next few days. Education, you've got government
funds of public schools setting educational standards. Is that gonna
mess with us? Nah? I don't think so. For a
handful of days that's long term stuch stuff, research, those
(19:32):
types of things, any of that. If you take a weekend,
three days, gosh, maybe even a week, you're not going
to see heavy duty weight from those areas. Your consumer
environmental protections. I know Handle was talking about food and
product safety. We're not going to have that prevent you know,
(19:53):
poisonings and things like that. I don't think, you know,
with the way the food chain works, a couple handful
of days, maybe even a week, that's not going to
touch any of that. They're ahead of those things already
as it is now. Environmental quality, clean air, stuff like that,
I don't think it's going to affect us right away.
(20:15):
Rights and freedoms. You got to love this. Civil rights,
labor laws, intellectual property. The government protects all these things. Again,
is it going to push off cases that are going
on right now? Yes, those probably won't be prosecuted or
dealt with in court. But is that going to affect us? No,
(20:36):
but national parks might. You know, the national parks probably
remain open, but with a very small amount of workers.
There's tons of federal workers that aren't working today. I'm
sure travel will probably it continues, but we'll probably have delays,
longer lines, things like that. I don't think childcare stints
(21:00):
for you know, federally funded programs head start. They may
find funding depletion. But again, these are all longer term
than the immediate focus that we have right now. We'll
have to see what they end up being in the
long term. But if we can get this done within
the next couple of days, I know we're coming up
against a weekend, then I think the vast majority of
(21:24):
the stuff won't be sticky enough for us to feel
all right and crew here. Bill Handle is out today
for the Jewish holiday Yom Kippor, Day of Atonement and
Ann is out as well. I think she works tonight,
so she's out. And we've got Matthew here, happy to
have him aboard. So, you know, with all the battling
(21:45):
going on politically and late night television and everything else,
in the battle for eyeballs and earballs and everything else,
it's interesting that Fox News is pulling ahead in television.
And I find this interesting because I'm not a huge
fan of Listen, every news outlet has a bias, a bias,
(22:08):
every single one. That's just human nature. You can't remove that.
It's the heavy bias or the stuff that you know.
So oftentimes Fox News and MSNBC and stuff just that
it's a little too overboard for me to where I
go come on. Sometimes I'll balance them out with each
(22:30):
other and see if there's something in between. But you
got to really dig or remove the editorial language. However,
when it comes to those shows, those programming where you've
got people in the round talking to me, that's just
like talk radio here, you're gonna have a bias. I
have a bias. Everybody has a bias. Mine might be
(22:51):
more nuanced than others because of the fact that I'm
not King shakes read no, because I am not. I
do not partake in the partisanship. I look at case
by case and that doesn't make me better than anybody
else by any stretch of the imagination. Is just the
(23:13):
way I do things. I'm I'm a rationalist. I want
it to make sense to me, and but it is.
I thought this was worth noting because of the times
that we're in that there's so much fighting. Yet you
have the third quarter of twenty twenty five that we're
living right this moment. You've got Fox News Channel pulling
(23:36):
ahead of its TV competition. That means ABC, you're traditional ones, CBS, NBC,
even ESPN not a news station but sports news. And
they have an average of three point three million weekday
prime time viewers. That is more than the late night
shows that get the vast majority of the airtime. On
(24:00):
social media and all of those things. It also remains
the top choice in cable news. It outperforms MSNBC CNN
by a wide Morgin margin rather in both daytime and
primetime hours. While CNN NSMMMS, I can't even say it.
MSNBC saw some of their lowest ratings in years. Fox
(24:27):
News continued a ninety five quarter winning streak as the
number one cable news network for primetime viewership. One of
the standout shows is The Five. I will tell you.
I've never seen the show. I'm told it has Dana Perino,
Greg Guttfeld. I'm sorry. I know he's a political guy
(24:50):
and he's a pundit and that's what he does. But
the guy delights me. I find him funny. Sometimes he's mean.
I find him funny, and I find him smart. Jesse,
Jessica Tarlov and Harold Ford Junior. So I've never watched
the show, but like I said, Greg Guttfield does make
(25:12):
me laugh at times. And you know, I think I've
said this on the show before. I was at a party.
It was a rather large one and he was there,
and I've had he and I would email back and
forth many years ago. I was introduced to him through
a buddy of mine and he was at this party
and the guy who played who I forget his name
(25:35):
all the time, who played Jesus in Passion of the Christ,
Covill Cavil, he was there, very serious guy, by the way,
and Greg Guttfeld kept trying to get me to fight him.
He says, I want to see the two Jesus guys fight,
and I think he had had a couple of pops
(25:55):
and he's like, fight, go go up and push it.
I'm not going to go up and bush of. But
that that story to me always echoes in my head.
What you know, got trying to get me to fight
James Cavill or whatever. Whatever. Anyways, I thought this was
interesting because in a time where everybody is so partisan
(26:18):
on these things and everybody mocks Fox News that it
it tends to be the leader right now. I don't
know what that says about the state of our union,
but it stood out to me when I was looking
at What's that I misspoke? It was Jim Cavezill, cavi Kevill,
(26:39):
what Cavsill, can CAVIASL, Caveasl, I haven't Yeah, CAVIASL and Cavill.
I never remember his name. I think he's a terrific actor.
I just never read any Yeah, he's adorable. But Henry Cavill,
that's Superman, Superman Captain handsome. That guy is one of
(27:01):
the few men that make my knees weak. Yeah, there's
something about him that is so manly. It's like he's
the exact opposite of Kno, he's like a real man,
but he like he cooks. I don't know, he just uh,
he makes me feel like a woman. Like it's just
(27:24):
like the guy walks in the room. Yeah. Yeah, but
Shania Twain doesn't like sex though you ever heard that
about her? Wasn't there an article or something that you've
really gotten off track? Haven't we? Oh? Yeah, I guess
we have. It's kind of like the five. All right,
we'll be back with more of whatever this is when
(27:45):
we return. We got Joel lars guard. Is Joe coming
up when we come back or later in the hour.
Look at the rundown. The rundown says next, I'm trying
to make you work, bro, Well did that for us? No,
But I'm trying to keep you on point. I know
where we're going. Do you know where we're going? As
(28:06):
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Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Hey everybody, Good morning,
Nil Savadr in the morning crew with you. Happy Thursday.
It's JOm Kippor today. So Bill Handle is taking the
day off for his deeply, deeply religious beliefs and we'll
be back tomorrow. Jane Goodall died ninety one years good
(00:47):
for her stands tall as one of those people that
permeates just about everyone's consciousness. We all knew about her
from whether it be documentaries or her speaking or I'll
tell you something how she ties to Disney coming up
(01:09):
in a moment too Amy k King. But Jane Goodall
most of us know. Renowned British primatologist, mythologist, anthropologist, a
bunch of ists. But really the groundbreaking work that you
know the movies were made out of and documentaries told
(01:31):
about was with chimpanzees in Tanzania. She was born April third,
nineteen thirty four in London, England. She had a deep
love that only got deeper for animals very early age,
fascinated with wildlife and in particularly Africa, and she said
(01:54):
they were sparked by such books as Tarzan of the Apes,
the Story of Doctor Doolittle. And she had no formal
scientific training and she started to travel to Kenya. This
was back in nineteen fifty seven. She met the famous
anthropologist Luis Leaky, who would later support and mentor her research.
(02:16):
And it's interesting if you follow her life and go
through her biographies the people that touched her life and
came in and out of her life, that guided and
gave mentorships as well. In nineteen sixty Goodall began her
landmark study of chimpanzees, and this was in a national
park there in Tanzania. What she observed became a totally
(02:44):
different scientific understanding of primates. She was the first to
document chimpanzees making and using tools, and that before that
we thought that was uniquely human, noted very complex social behaviors,
emotional expressions, even family bonds among chimpanzee communities. So all
(03:08):
these long held assumptions that we had that divided us
between chimpanzees and what we do, a lot of them
were squashed. All this work led to a PhD eventually
from the University of Cambridge, and she was one of
the few people to earn a doctorate without first obtaining
(03:30):
a bachelor's degree. I mean, she just is an incredible
and was an incredible person recognized globally as an advocate
for environmental sustainability, animal war, welfare, rather and youth empowerment.
As far as the Disney tie in, I love this
(03:50):
and that she when they were building in the nineteen nineties,
when they were building the Disney's Animal Kingdom there in floor,
she became one of the advisors. So Disney really wanted
to do it right, make sure that it was done
with integrity and with an understanding of the animal's needs
(04:13):
and not just throwing together, you know, a park. So
she reviewed the concept the whole time, provided guidance to
ensure that the facility, all the exhibits therein reflected you know,
good practices for animal care, authenticity in portraying wildlife. And
(04:35):
she was present during all that time, during its construction phase,
and she was there for the grand opening. And so
I went down that rabbit hole one time looking at
all the things she did there and being impressed with
everything that she brought to the table so much so.
One of the most visible tributes to her, to Jane
(04:55):
Goodall at the Disneyland parks there in Florida, is the
Tree of Life life sculpture that's there at Disney's Animal Kingdom.
There's a big plaque on it dedicated Jane Goodall and
a carving of David Graybeard, the first chimpanzee, rather to
approach her during her early research. And there's few people
(05:21):
in our lives that I think you hear their name
and they don't. They don't bring with it any luggage negatively,
and she is one of those people. And when I
heard of her passing yesterday, I started, you know, reading
(05:42):
more about her. And of course we've learned things in
school and then those of us have watched documentaries and
different interests comes our way. And there's something about certain
people that are single focused in life. And it's not
just knowing from a young age like she did, because
a lot of us, you know, from a young age
(06:04):
were turned on to something or became impassioned. It was
the integrity in which she did it. And there are
a handful of people that just transcend the garbage and
noise of life, politics, religion, social construct it. And she
(06:27):
did that, and I think that they the similarity is
always these people with a again with the word transcending,
a transcending view, a purpose, a goal, that it is
above the noise, and it's like they live in this
higher plane, not spiritual, but like that's above the social garbage.
(06:54):
And I'm wondering what we can take from her, not
just the studies and the science, but the quality of
the life that she chose to surround herself with. I mean,
she'd been married, I think at least twice. I mean,
her life wasn't perfect in any way, I'm sure, but
there's something about that single purpose. It seems like people
(07:15):
jump around, even activists, are jumping where the noise is
trying to get the most eyes on them, and where
she was quietly dedicated and only only took the linelight
when it was purposeful to push that single goal. And
there's a success in that. And I was once told
(07:37):
by one of the mentors here at KFI, Greg Ashlock,
great guy, love Greg, but he said that, you know,
reminded me one time that success, really successful people just
do what other people don't want to do, whether it's
lazy or uninspired, whatever it is, and that that consistency
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and single purpose and focus I think that drives special
people like Jane Goodall can be a lesson to all
of us. It just it's superior than what most of
us do on a daily basis. It is, and I'm
not downgrading the things that we all do in our lives,
so I don't care what you're doing. It makes the
system go. But there's something about that single focus and
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kind of leaving traditional once behind stuff things that clutter
our homes, those types of things, and the purest, simplest
way of living to be able to connect, in her case,
with nature teaches us a lesson. All right, So we're
going to shut down and we hear these terms all
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the time. What does it really mean? We'll get more
into that, but let's look and see why, why what
is this happening? So the recent government shut shut down
day two, I think my guess is tomorrow, if we're
going to shutdown, that's when you're going to start hearing
at least it. I think people will start being laid
off tomorrow, that's my guess. But it's turned into this
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heated political battle, as it always does. But in this case,
you're looking at immigration and healthcare, two big things with
Republicans obviously, including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Vice President JD. Vance.
So they're accusing of the Democrats. And really, if you're
going to get technical, Democrats are the ones holding this up.
But really, in a tug of war, they're both playing.
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They're trying to give free health care to people living
in the US illegally. Democrats strongly deny this. They say
the proposal only aims to restore Medicaid coverage to certain
immigrants who are in the country legally or with government approval.
I'm not sure what the distance or difference between those
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things are. If you have approval, that would be legally right.
So I'm not sure how they discern against what those
two things are. I'm sure there's some sort of detail
there that somebody will leave a talkback. The disagreement is
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kind of the key reason Congress can't agree on how
to reopen the government. This is going to be the thing.
If you remember, the longest shut down I think in
our history was last time Trump was in. One side
may say because he's a pain in the ass. The
other side may say, well, you know what, he knows
what he wants, and he's not going to bow to garbage.
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He's going to push until he gets it. So earlier
this year, a law called the One Big Beautiful Act
a Bill Act if you remember, was passed under the
Trump administration administration. So this had a bunch of rule
tightening on who among non citizens can get Medicaid, cut
out many groups who had previously been covered. Refugees, asylum seekers.
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These are the folks you got to think about, people
granted special permission to enter the country. Democrats want to
include a wider range of legally present immigrants, so not
just those categories, but others. So about one point four
million people could lose their health coverage under the new
law if no changes are made. Now. My understanding though,
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is anybody can walk into an er. It's one of
the issues with a legal immigration. Anyone can walk into
an ER and still get coverage. They can't turn you away. Now,
there could be some point if they find something and
you need other tests or what have you, but that
is one way. That's one of the burdens on the
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system that some would complain saying, yes, but you know,
illegal immigrants can go in there and tax our system
just by using the er system. Republicans argue that some
of the immigrants, immigrants that Democrats want to help, brought
in under programs that they see as unlawful, especially ones
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given parole under President Biden. These become a sticking point.
So these are folks from Venezuela. These could also be
Ukrainians by the way, that were allowed to enter for
humanitarian reasons. And I say that because on both sides,
and it bugs me on both sides. Whether you're Latino
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Latino Latino and saying we got to protect immigrants, really
you don't care. You care about Latinos, and I you know,
if it was different immigrants coming, I think that it
would be different. That's why all of the immigration offices
and stuff in Los Angeles are all Latino focused. That's
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the reality. But it does affect others as well. So
they were entering the US for humanitarians and could work
and live in the US legally. So the Trump team says, no,
those got to go those programs shouldn't get benefits. Legal
experts are looking at pointing out the other groups like
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refugees asylum seekers clearly have recognized legal status so what
are you doing separating them? Medicaid obviously a big deal.
The only exception is for emergency hospital care like I
talked about, makes up in what they say is less
than one percent of Medicaid spending. Democrats insist they are
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not trying to change that. Their focus, they say, is
on making sure millions of Americans keep getting help through
the Affordable Care Act. So some states already use their
own money to provide healthcare to undocumented residents, so that's
not something that would be messed with. But Republicans have
tried but failed to stop that in past legislation. So
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this is at the core of the battle that's going on.
How does it affect us? You know, it almost gives
you an idea of how fat we are in the
government when they shut down, because you start looking at
your daily life. What does it, How does it pierce
your life? What kind of services are not going on?
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Or if they are going on? Then you can't help
but think about the people who are doing their jobs
with their money furload. If they're going to have back pay,
that's the way it seems that it goes. But can
you deal with back pay? Do you want to deal
with back pay. A lot of people are hand to mouth,
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they're living paycheck to paycheck, and that could be a
scary proposition. So having said those things, yes, heart goes
out to those that work in the government that are
affected by what's going on in the federal government. But
I got to tell you, it goes to show you
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how battles. I always say that with the right and
the left, they're playing tuglewar, but we're the rope, and
it goes to show you, in a small sense, how
that affects us. Now, we're only seeing it from in
this case, from the outside in. We're looking at people
that are affected immediately, meaning they work for the government
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and they either have to do their job without pay
for right now, or they're not working at all and
therefore having to shut the doors of certain services. That's
what we're dealing with on a bigger level in the
United States as a whole. Whenever there's a battle between
those two sides, we're going to be the ones losing.
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And to me, it's another reminder of that it's not
about them who are serving us in these government positions.
That's just a reminder of how we're all affected all
the time. By squabbles and battles that go on between
the left and the right. So how is it going
to affect it, Well, there's tons of things. If it
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continues to go on today being day number two, tomorrow,
I really believe that we'll start seeing some layoffs or
that card will be played more heavily tomorrow. I think
it will. I think it will actualize. I think that
kind of power. Trump doesn't seem like the type to
waste power moves, and if he is in that power seat,
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I find it hard to believe that he won't utilize
that to cut some areas, if for nothing else being vindictive,
I don't put that past him. But on the flip side,
it could be cutting fat fat that they see on
the right. So what are some of those services? Public
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safety is going to be at the top of that,
so our tax money funds police, fire departments, medical service,
emergency medical services, military. So if that is happening, this
is another point where they're going to be working either
without money, without pay for this time, at least not
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immediate pay, or there will be some people furloughed or
things like that. It's probably one of the last things
they end up doing. But There's also a lot of
infrastructure that goes kind of without saying we don't see it,
we don't feel it. It just kind of does. It's
like breathing. It just happens, so we take it for granted.
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But that could be any of the government agencies responsible
for maintaining roads. Do we even have that service in
LA I don't think so. Not in my Naty roads.
Potholes they should actually fill the potholes with homeless people.
They make little homes in them, transitional homes, building maintainings,
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a bridge, public transportation, even airports, public parts. I mean,
I think the TSA is affected as well, so they're
not going to get paid right now while they're working. Infrastructure,
of course is a big deal. Utilities, essential services like water, sewage,
garbage collection. What does that mean that there won't be
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garbage collection on garbage day during this? Is garbage collection
a federal government job? Well, that's what it's saying. But
I don't know that it would be. Isn't that logo
or maybe that is that is regulation of those things,
because that's got to be local, right, I would think so,
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I don't know how that would deal with us specifically,
because I imagine garbage is going to be collected, but regulating,
I don't know what that means. In that does that
mean they're going to take toxic waste if you have
them picking up today? The US Postal Service delivers mail
and packages obviously, while the Federal uh Communications Commission regulates telecommunications.
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I don't know that that's going to cause any major
problems within the next few days. Education, you've got government
funds of public schools setting educational standards. Is that gonna
mess with us? Nah? I don't think so. For a
handful of days that's long term stuch stuff, research, those
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types of things, any of that. If you take a weekend,
three days, gosh, maybe even a week, you're not going
to see heavy duty weight from those areas. Your consumer
environmental protections. I know Handle was talking about food and
product safety. We're not going to have that prevent you know,
(19:53):
poisonings and things like that. I don't think, you know,
with the way the food chain works, a couple handful
of days, maybe even a week, that's not going to
touch any of that. They're ahead of those things already
as it is now. Environmental quality, clean air, stuff like that,
I don't think it's going to affect us right away.
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Rights and freedoms. You got to love this. Civil rights,
labor laws, intellectual property. The government protects all these things. Again,
is it going to push off cases that are going
on right now? Yes, those probably won't be prosecuted or
dealt with in court. But is that going to affect us? No,
(20:36):
but national parks might. You know, the national parks probably
remain open, but with a very small amount of workers.
There's tons of federal workers that aren't working today. I'm
sure travel will probably it continues, but we'll probably have delays,
longer lines, things like that. I don't think childcare stints
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for you know, federally funded programs head start. They may
find funding depletion. But again, these are all longer term
than the immediate focus that we have right now. We'll
have to see what they end up being in the
long term. But if we can get this done within
the next couple of days, I know we're coming up
against a weekend, then I think the vast majority of
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the stuff won't be sticky enough for us to feel
all right and crew here. Bill Handle is out today
for the Jewish holiday Yom Kippor, Day of Atonement and
Ann is out as well. I think she works tonight,
so she's out. And we've got Matthew here, happy to
have him aboard. So, you know, with all the battling
(21:45):
going on politically and late night television and everything else,
in the battle for eyeballs and earballs and everything else,
it's interesting that Fox News is pulling ahead in television.
And I find this interesting because I'm not a huge
fan of Listen, every news outlet has a bias, a bias,
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every single one. That's just human nature. You can't remove that.
It's the heavy bias or the stuff that you know.
So oftentimes Fox News and MSNBC and stuff just that
it's a little too overboard for me to where I
go come on. Sometimes I'll balance them out with each
(22:30):
other and see if there's something in between. But you
got to really dig or remove the editorial language. However,
when it comes to those shows, those programming where you've
got people in the round talking to me, that's just
like talk radio here, you're gonna have a bias. I
have a bias. Everybody has a bias. Mine might be
(22:51):
more nuanced than others because of the fact that I'm
not King shakes read no, because I am not. I
do not partake in the partisanship. I look at case
by case and that doesn't make me better than anybody
else by any stretch of the imagination. Is just the
(23:13):
way I do things. I'm I'm a rationalist. I want
it to make sense to me, and but it is.
I thought this was worth noting because of the times
that we're in that there's so much fighting. Yet you
have the third quarter of twenty twenty five that we're
living right this moment. You've got Fox News Channel pulling
(23:36):
ahead of its TV competition. That means ABC, you're traditional ones, CBS, NBC,
even ESPN not a news station but sports news. And
they have an average of three point three million weekday
prime time viewers. That is more than the late night
shows that get the vast majority of the airtime. On
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social media and all of those things. It also remains
the top choice in cable news. It outperforms MSNBC CNN
by a wide Morgin margin rather in both daytime and
primetime hours. While CNN NSMMMS, I can't even say it.
MSNBC saw some of their lowest ratings in years. Fox
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News continued a ninety five quarter winning streak as the
number one cable news network for primetime viewership. One of
the standout shows is The Five. I will tell you.
I've never seen the show. I'm told it has Dana Perino,
Greg Guttfeld. I'm sorry. I know he's a political guy
(24:50):
and he's a pundit and that's what he does. But
the guy delights me. I find him funny. Sometimes he's mean.
I find him funny, and I find him smart. Jesse,
Jessica Tarlov and Harold Ford Junior. So I've never watched
the show, but like I said, Greg Guttfield does make
(25:12):
me laugh at times. And you know, I think I've
said this on the show before. I was at a party.
It was a rather large one and he was there,
and I've had he and I would email back and
forth many years ago. I was introduced to him through
a buddy of mine and he was at this party
and the guy who played who I forget his name
(25:35):
all the time, who played Jesus in Passion of the Christ,
Covill Cavil, he was there, very serious guy, by the way,
and Greg Guttfeld kept trying to get me to fight him.
He says, I want to see the two Jesus guys fight,
and I think he had had a couple of pops
(25:55):
and he's like, fight, go go up and push it.
I'm not going to go up and bush of. But
that that story to me always echoes in my head.
What you know, got trying to get me to fight
James Cavill or whatever. Whatever. Anyways, I thought this was
interesting because in a time where everybody is so partisan
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on these things and everybody mocks Fox News that it
it tends to be the leader right now. I don't
know what that says about the state of our union,
but it stood out to me when I was looking
at What's that I misspoke? It was Jim Cavezill, cavi Kevill,
(26:39):
what Cavsill, can CAVIASL, Caveasl, I haven't Yeah, CAVIASL and Cavill.
I never remember his name. I think he's a terrific actor.
I just never read any Yeah, he's adorable. But Henry Cavill,
that's Superman, Superman Captain handsome. That guy is one of
(27:01):
the few men that make my knees weak. Yeah, there's
something about him that is so manly. It's like he's
the exact opposite of Kno, he's like a real man,
but he like he cooks. I don't know, he just uh,
he makes me feel like a woman. Like it's just
(27:24):
like the guy walks in the room. Yeah. Yeah, but
Shania Twain doesn't like sex though you ever heard that
about her? Wasn't there an article or something that you've
really gotten off track? Haven't we? Oh? Yeah, I guess
we have. It's kind of like the five. All right,
we'll be back with more of whatever this is when
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we return. We got Joel lars guard. Is Joe coming
up when we come back or later in the hour.
Look at the rundown. The rundown says next, I'm trying
to make you work, bro, Well did that for us? No,
But I'm trying to keep you on point. I know
where we're going. Do you know where we're going? As
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