October 2, 2025 • 28 mins
(October 02, 2025)
Neil Saavedra is in for Bill who is taking the day off for Yom Kippur. Jane Goodall dies at 91. The facts behind the gov’t shutdown debate over healthcare and immigrants in the US illegally. Most voters think America’s divisions cannot be overcome, poll says. Fox News channel surges past ABC, NBC, CBS, among weekday primetime viewers with dominant third quarter.
Neil Saavedra is in for Bill who is taking the day off for Yom Kippur. Jane Goodall dies at 91. The facts behind the gov’t shutdown debate over healthcare and immigrants in the US illegally. Most voters think America’s divisions cannot be overcome, poll says. Fox News channel surges past ABC, NBC, CBS, among weekday primetime viewers with dominant third quarter.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
AM six forty. You are listening to the Bill Handle Show.
Here's Neil Savedray Monkey Uggy.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
By AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Hey everybody, Good morning, Neil Savadra in the morning crew
with you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Happy Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's Yom Kippor today, So Bill Handle is taking the
day off for his deeply, deeply religious beliefs and we'll
be back tomorrow. Jane Goodall died ninety one years good.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
For her.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Stands tall as one of those people that permeates just
about everyone's consciousness. We all knew about her from whether
it be documentaries or her speaking or I'll tell you
something how she ties to Disney coming up in a
(01:10):
moment too Amy k King. But Jane Goodall most of
us know. Renowned British primatologist, mythologist, anthropologist, a bunch of ists.
But really the groundbreaking work that you know the movies
were made out of and documentaries told about was with
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chimpanzees in Tanzania. She was born April third, nineteen thirty four,
in London, England. She had a deep love that only
got deeper for animals very early age, fascinated with wildlife
and in particularly Africa, and she said they were sparked
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by such books as Tarzan of the Apes, the Story
of Doctor Doolittle. And she had no formal scientific training
and she started to travel to Kenya. This was back
in nineteen fifty seven. She met the famous anthropologist Luis Leaky,
who would later support and mentor her research. And it's
(02:17):
interesting if you follow her life and go through her
biographies the people that touched her life and came in
and out of her life, that guided and gave mentorships
as well. In nineteen sixty Goodall began her landmark study
of chimpanzees, and this was in a national park there
in Tanzania. What she observed became, you know, a totally
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different scientific understanding of primates. She was the first to
document chimpanzees making and using tools, and that before that
we thought that was uniquely human, noted very complex social behaviors,
emotional expressions, even family bonds among chimpanzee communities.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So all these long held assumptions.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That we had that divided us between chimpanzees and what
we do, a lot of them were squashed. All this
work led to a PhD eventually from the University of Cambridge,
and she was one of the few people to earn
a doctorate without first obtaining a bachelor's degree. I mean,
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she just is an incredible and was an incredible person
recognized globally as an advocate for environmental sustainability, animal war, welfare,
rather and youth empowerment. As far as the Disney tie in,
I love this and that she when they were building
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in the nineteen nineties, when they were building the Disney's
Animal Kingdom there in floor, she became one of the advisors.
So Disney really wanted to do it right, make sure
that it was done with integrity and with an understanding
of the animal's needs and not just throwing together, you know,
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a park. So she reviewed the concept the whole time,
provided guidance to ensure that the facility, all the exhibits
therein reflected you know, good practices for animal care, authenticity
in portraying wildlife. And she was present during all that time,
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during its construction phase, and she was there for the
grand opening. And so I went down that rabbit hole
one time looking at all the things she did there
and being impressed with everything that she brought to the
table so much so.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
One of the most.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Visible tributes to her to Jane Goodall at the Disneyland
parks there in Florida, is the Tree of Life life
sculpture that's there at Disney's Animal Kingdom. There's a big
plaque on it dedicated Jane Goodall and a carving of
David Graybeard, the first chimpanzee, rather to approach her during
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her early research. And there's few people in our lives
that I think you hear their name, and they don't.
They don't bring with it any luggage negatively, and she
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is one of those people. And when I heard of
her passing yesterday, I started, you know, reading more about her.
And of course we've learned things in school and then
those of us have watched documentaries and different interests comes
our way. And there's something about certain people that are
single focused in life. And it's not just knowing from
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a young age like she did, because a lot of us,
you know, from a young age were turned on to
something or became impassioned. It was the integrity in which
she did it. And there are a handful of people
that just transcend the garbage and noise of life, politics, religion,
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social construct it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And she did that, and I.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Think that they the similarity is always these people with
a again with the word transcending, a transcending view, a purpose,
a goal.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
That it is above the noise, and it's like they
live in this higher plane, not spiritual, but like that's
above the social garbage. And I'm wondering what we can
take from her, not just the studies and the science,
but the quality of the life that she chose to
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surround herself with. I mean, she'd been married, I think
at least twice. I mean, her life wasn't perfect in
any way, I'm sure, but there's something about that single purpose.
It seems like people jump around, even activists, are jumping
where the noise is trying to get the most eyes
on them, and where she was quietly dedicated and only
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only took the linlight when it was purposeful to push
that single goal. And there's a success in that. And
I was once told by one of the mentors here
at KFI, Greg Ashlock, great guy, love Greg, but he
said that, you know, reminded me one time that success,
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really successful people just do what other people don't want
to do, whether it's lazy or uninspired, whatever it is,
and that that consistency and single purpose and focus I
think that drives special people like Jane Goodall can be
a lesson to all of us. It just it's superior
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than what most of us do on a daily basis.
It is, and I'm not downgrading the things that we
all do in our lives, so I don't care what
you're doing. It makes the system go. But there's something
about that single focus and kind of leaving traditional once
behind stuff things that clutter our homes, those types of things,
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and the purest, simplest way of living to be able
to connect, in her case, with nature teaches us a lesson.
All right, So we're going to shut down and we
hear these terms all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
What does it really mean?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
We'll get more into that, but let's look and see why,
why what is this happening? So the recent government shut
shut down day two, I think my guess is tomorrow,
if we're going to shutdown, that's when you're going to
start hearing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
At least it.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think people will start being laid off tomorrow, that's
my guess. But it's turned into this heated political battle,
as it always does. But in this case, you're looking
at immigration and healthcare, two big things with Republicans obviously,
including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Vice President JD.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So they're accusing of the Democrats. And really, if you're
going to get technical, Democrats are the ones holding this up.
But really, in a tug of war, they're both playing.
They're trying to give free health care to people living
in the US illegally. Democrats strongly deny this. They say
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their proposal only aims to restore Medicaid coverage to certain
immigrants who are in the country legally or with government approval.
I'm not sure what the distance or difference between those
things are. If you have approval that would be legally.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So I'm not sure how they discern against what those
two things are. I'm sure there's some sort of detail
there that somebody will leave a.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Talkback.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The disagreement is kind of the key reason Congress can't
agree on how to reopen the government.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is going to be the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If you remember, the longest shut down I think in
our history was last time Trump was in. One side
may say because he's a pain in the ass. The
other side may say, well, you know what, he knows
what he wants, and he's not going to bow to garbage.
He's going to push until he gets it. So earlier
this year, a law called the One Big Beautiful Act
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a Bill Act if you remember, was passed under the
Trump administration administration. So this had a bunch of rule
tightening on who among non citizens can get Medicaid, cut
out many groups who had previously been covered. Refugees, asylum seekers.
These are the folks you got to think about, people
granted special permission to enter the country. Democrats want to
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include a wider range of legally present immigrants, so not
just those categories, but others. So about one point four
million people could lose their health coverage under the new
law if.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
No changes are made. Now.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
My understanding though, is anybody can walk into an er.
It's one of the issues with a legal immigration. Anyone
can walk into an ER and still get coverage. They
can't turn you away. Now, there could be some point
if they find something and you need other tests or
what have you, but that is one way. That's one
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of the burdens on the system that some would complain saying, yes,
but you know, illegal immigrants can go in there and
tax our system just by using the er system.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Republicans argue that some.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Of the immigrants, immigrants that Democrats want to help, brought
in under programs that they see as unlawful, especially ones
given parole under President Biden. These become a sticking point.
So these are folks from Venezuela. These could also be
Ukrainians by the way, that were allowed to enter for
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humanitarian reasons. And I say that because on both sides,
and it bugs me on both sides. Whether you're Latino
Latino Latino and saying we got to protect immigrants, really
you don't care. You care about Latinos, and I you know,
if it was different immigrants coming, I think that it
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would be different. That's why all of the immigration offices
and stuff in Los Angeles are all Latino focused. That's
the reality. But it does affect others as well. So
they were entering the US for humanitarians and could work
and live in the US legally. So the Trump team says, no,
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those got to go those programs shouldn't get benefits. Legal
experts are looking at pointing out the other groups like
refugees asylum seekers clearly have recognized legal status so what
are you doing separating them? Medicaid obviously a big deal.
The only exception is for emergency hospital care like I
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talked about, makes up then what they say is less
than one percent of Medicaid spending. Democrats insist they are
not trying to change that. Their focus, they say, is
on making sure millions of Americans keep getting help through
the Affordable Care Act. So some states already use their
own money to provide healthcare to undocumented residents, so that's
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not something that would be messed with. But Republicans have
tried but failed to stop that in past legislation. So
this is at the core of the battle that's going on.
How does it affect us? You know, it almost gives
you an idea of how fat we are in the
government when they shut down, because you start looking at
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your daily life.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
What does it, How does it pierce your life?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
What kind of services are not going on or if
they are going on? Then you can't help but think
about the people who are doing their jobs with their
money furload. If they're going to have back pay, that's
the way it seems that it goes. But can you
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deal with back pay? Do you want to deal with
back pay. A lot of people are hand to mouth,
they're living paycheck to paycheck, and that could be a
scary proposition. So having said those things, yes, heart goes
out to those that work in the government that are
affected by what's going on in the federal government. But
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I got to tell you, it goes to show you
how battles. I always say that with the right and
the left, they're playing tug awar but we're the rope,
and it goes to show you, in a small sense,
how that affects us. Now, we're only seeing it from
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in this case, from the outside in. We're looking at
people that are affected immediately, meaning they work for the
government and they either have to do their job without
pay for right now, or they're not working at all
and therefore having to shut the doors of certain services.
That's what we're dealing with on a bigger level in
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the United States as a whole. Whenever there's a battle
between those two sides, we're going to be the ones losing.
And to me, it's another reminder of that it's not
about them who are serving us in these government positions.
That's just a reminder of how we're all affected all
the time by squabbles and battles that go on between
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the left and the right. So how is it going
to affect it, Well, there's tons of things. If it
continues to go on today being day number two, tomorrow,
I really believe that we'll start seeing some layoffs or
that card will be played more heavily tomorrow. I think
it will. I think it will actualize. I think that
kind of power. Trump doesn't seem like the type to
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waste power moves, and if he is in that power seat,
I find it hard to believe that he won't utilize
that to cut some areas, if for nothing else being vindictive,
I don't put that past him. But on the flip side,
it could be cutting fat fat that they see on
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the right.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So what are some of those services?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Public safety is going to be at the top of that,
so our tax money funds police, fire departments, medical service,
emergency medical services, military.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So if that is happening, this is.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Another point where they're going to be working either without money,
without pay for this time, at least not immediate pay,
or there will be some people furloughed or things like that.
It's probably one of the last things they end up doing.
But There's also a lot of infrastructure that goes kind
of without saying we don't see it, we don't feel it.
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It just kind of does. It's like breathing. It just happens,
so we take it for granted. But that could be
any of the government agencies responsible for maintaining roads.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Do we even have that service in la I don't
think so.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Not in my Neahoro.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Roads potholes they should actually fill the potholes with homeless people.
They make little homes in them, transitional homes, building maintainings,
a bridge, public transportation, even airports, public parts. I mean,
I think the TSA is affected as well, so they're
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not going to get paid right now while they're working. Infrastructure,
of course is a big deal. Utilities, essential services like water, sewage,
garbage collection. What does that mean that there won't be
garbage collection on garbage day during this?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Is garbage collection a federal government job?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, that's what it's saying, But I don't know that
it would be. Isn't that logo or maybe that is
that is regulation of those things, because that's got to
be local, right, I would think, so, I don't know
how that would deal with us specifically, because I imagine
garbage is going to be collected, but regulating, I don't
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know what that means. In that does that mean they're
going to take toxic waste if you have them picking
up today? The US Postal Service delivers mail packages obviously,
while the Federal uh Communications Commission regulates telecommunications. I don't
know that that's going to cause any major problems within the.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Next few days.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Education, you've got government funds of public schools setting educational standards.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Is that gonna mess with us? Nah? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
For a handful of days that's long term stuch stuff, research,
those types of things, any of that. If you take
a weekend, three days, gosh, maybe even a week, you're
not going to see heavy duty weight from those areas.
Your consumer environmental protections. I know Handle was talking about
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food and product safety. We're not going to have that
prevent you know, poisonings and things like that. I don't think,
you know, with the way the food chain works, a
couple handful of days, maybe even a week, that's not
going to touch any that. They're ahead of those things
already as it is now. Environmental quality, clean air, stuff
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like that, I don't think it's going to affect us
right away. Rights and freedoms. You've got to love this.
Civil rights, labor laws, intellectual property. The government protects all
these things. Again, is it going to push off cases
that are going on right now? Yes, those probably won't
be prosecuted or dealt with in court.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But is that going to affect us? No, but national
parks might.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know, the national parks probably remain open, but with
a very small amount of workers. There's tons of federal
workers that aren't working today. I'm sure travel will probably
it continues, but we'll probably have delays, longer lines, things
like that. I don't think childcare stints for you know,
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federally funded programs head start. They may find funding depletion.
But again, these are all longer term than the immediate
focus that we have right now. We'll have to see
what they end up being in the long term. But
if we can get this done within the next couple
of days, I know we're coming up against a weekend,
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then I think the vast majority of the stuff won't
be sticky enough for us to feel all right and
crew here, Bill Handle is out today for the Jewish
holiday Joam Kippor Day of Atonement. And Ann is out
as well. I think she works tonight, so she's out.
And we've got Matthew here, happy to have him aboard.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
So, you know, with all the battling going on.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Politically and late night television and everything else, in the
battle for eyeballs and earballs and everything else, it's interesting
that Fox News is pulling ahead in television. And I
find this interesting because I'm not a huge fan of Listen,
every news outlet has a bias, a bias, every single one.
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That's just human nature. You can't remove that. It's the
heavy bias or the stuff that.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So oftentimes Fox News and MSNBC and stuff just it's
a little too overboard for me to where I go.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Sometimes I'll balance them out with each other and see
if there's something in between. But you got to really
dig or remove the editorial language. However, when it comes
to those shows, those programming where you've got people in
the round talking to me, that's just like talk radio here,
you're gonna have a bias. I have a bias. Everybody
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has a bias. Mine might be more nuanced than others
because of the fact that I'm not king shakes or
read no, because I am not. I do not partake
in the partisanship. I look at case by case and
that doesn't make me better than anybody else by any
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stretch of the imagination. Is just the way I do things.
I'm I'm a rationalist. I want it to make sense
to me, and but it is. I thought this was
worth noting because of the times that we're in that
there's so much fighting. Yet you have the third quarter
of twenty twenty five that we're living right this moment.
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You've got Fox News Channel pulling ahead of its TV competition.
That means ABC, your traditional ones, CBS, NBC, even ESPN
not a news station but sports news. And they have
an average of three point three million weekday prime time viewers.
That is more than the late night shows that get
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the vast majority of the airtime. On social media and
all of those things. It also remains the top choice
in cable news. It outperforms MSNBC CNN by a wide
Morgin of margin rather in both daytime and primetime hours.
While CNN NSMMMS, I can't even say it. MSNBC saw
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some of their lowest ratings in years. Fox News continued
a ninety five quarter winning streak as the number one
cable news network for primetime viewership. One of the standout
shows is The Five. I will tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I've never seen the show.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I'm told it has Dana Perino, Greg Guttfeld.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I know he's a political guy and he's a pundit
and that's what he does. But the guy delights me.
I find him funny. Sometimes he's mean. I find him funny,
and I find him smart. Jesse, Jessica Tarlov and Harold
Ford Junior. So I've never watched the show, but like
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I said, Greg Guttfield does make me laugh at times.
And you know, I think I've said this on the
show before. I was at a party.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It was a rather large one and.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He was there, and I've had he and I would
email back and forth many years ago. I was introduced
to him through a buddy of mine and he was
at this party and the guy who played who I
forget his name all the time, who played Jesus in
Passion of the Christ, Covill Cavil. He was there, very
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serious guy by the way, and Greg Guttfeld kept trying
to get me to fight him. He says, I want
to see the two Jesus guys fight and I think
he had had a couple of pops and he's.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like, fight, go go up and push it. I'm not
going to go up and bush them.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But that that story to me always echoes in my head.
What you know, trying to get me to fight James.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Cavill or whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Anyways, I thought this was interesting because in a time
where everybody is so partisan on these things and everybody
mocks Fox News that it it tends to be the
leader right now. I don't know what that says about
the state of our union, but it stood out.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
To me when I was looking at What's that I misspoke?
It was Jim Cavezill, cavi Kevill, What Cavsill, Cavi CAVIASL, Caveasl,
I haven't Yeah, CAVIASL and.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Cavill I never remember his name. I think he's a
terrific actor.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I just never read any Yeah, and he's adorable.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
But Henry Cavell, that's Superman.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Superman, Captain handsome. That guy is one of the few
men that make my knees weak. Yeah, there's something about
him that is so manly. It's like he's the exact
opposite of Kno, he's like a real man, but he
like he cooks. I don't know, he just uh, he
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makes me feel like a woman. Like it's just like
the guy watching the room. Yeah, yeah, but Shania Twain
doesn't like sex though you ever heard that about her?
Wasn't there an article or something.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That you've really gotten off track? Haven't we? Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, I guess we have. It's kind of like the five.
All right, we'll be back with more of whatever this
is when we return. We got Joel large guards. Is
Joel coming up when we come back or later in
the hour?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Look at the rundown.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The rundown says next, I'm trying to make you work, bro, Well,
Matt did that for us. No, but I'm trying to
keep view on point. I know where we're going. Do
you know where we're going?
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Hey everybody, Good morning, Neil Savadra in the morning crew
with you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Happy Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's Yom Kippor today, So Bill Handle is taking the
day off for his deeply, deeply religious beliefs and we'll
be back tomorrow. Jane Goodall died ninety one years good.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
For her.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Stands tall as one of those people that permeates just
about everyone's consciousness. We all knew about her from whether
it be documentaries or her speaking or I'll tell you
something how she ties to Disney coming up in a
(01:10):
moment too Amy k King. But Jane Goodall most of
us know. Renowned British primatologist, mythologist, anthropologist, a bunch of ists.
But really the groundbreaking work that you know the movies
were made out of and documentaries told about was with
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chimpanzees in Tanzania. She was born April third, nineteen thirty four,
in London, England. She had a deep love that only
got deeper for animals very early age, fascinated with wildlife
and in particularly Africa, and she said they were sparked
(01:55):
by such books as Tarzan of the Apes, the Story
of Doctor Doolittle. And she had no formal scientific training
and she started to travel to Kenya. This was back
in nineteen fifty seven. She met the famous anthropologist Luis Leaky,
who would later support and mentor her research. And it's
(02:17):
interesting if you follow her life and go through her
biographies the people that touched her life and came in
and out of her life, that guided and gave mentorships
as well. In nineteen sixty Goodall began her landmark study
of chimpanzees, and this was in a national park there
in Tanzania. What she observed became, you know, a totally
(02:44):
different scientific understanding of primates. She was the first to
document chimpanzees making and using tools, and that before that
we thought that was uniquely human, noted very complex social behaviors,
emotional expressions, even family bonds among chimpanzee communities.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So all these long held assumptions.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That we had that divided us between chimpanzees and what
we do, a lot of them were squashed. All this
work led to a PhD eventually from the University of Cambridge,
and she was one of the few people to earn
a doctorate without first obtaining a bachelor's degree. I mean,
(03:31):
she just is an incredible and was an incredible person
recognized globally as an advocate for environmental sustainability, animal war, welfare,
rather and youth empowerment. As far as the Disney tie in,
I love this and that she when they were building
(03:54):
in the nineteen nineties, when they were building the Disney's
Animal Kingdom there in floor, she became one of the advisors.
So Disney really wanted to do it right, make sure
that it was done with integrity and with an understanding
of the animal's needs and not just throwing together, you know,
(04:15):
a park. So she reviewed the concept the whole time,
provided guidance to ensure that the facility, all the exhibits
therein reflected you know, good practices for animal care, authenticity
in portraying wildlife. And she was present during all that time,
(04:37):
during its construction phase, and she was there for the
grand opening. And so I went down that rabbit hole
one time looking at all the things she did there
and being impressed with everything that she brought to the
table so much so.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
One of the most.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Visible tributes to her to Jane Goodall at the Disneyland
parks there in Florida, is the Tree of Life life
sculpture that's there at Disney's Animal Kingdom. There's a big
plaque on it dedicated Jane Goodall and a carving of
David Graybeard, the first chimpanzee, rather to approach her during
(05:15):
her early research. And there's few people in our lives
that I think you hear their name, and they don't.
They don't bring with it any luggage negatively, and she
(05:36):
is one of those people. And when I heard of
her passing yesterday, I started, you know, reading more about her.
And of course we've learned things in school and then
those of us have watched documentaries and different interests comes
our way. And there's something about certain people that are
single focused in life. And it's not just knowing from
(06:00):
a young age like she did, because a lot of us,
you know, from a young age were turned on to
something or became impassioned. It was the integrity in which
she did it. And there are a handful of people
that just transcend the garbage and noise of life, politics, religion,
(06:24):
social construct it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And she did that, and I.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Think that they the similarity is always these people with
a again with the word transcending, a transcending view, a purpose,
a goal.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
That it is above the noise, and it's like they
live in this higher plane, not spiritual, but like that's
above the social garbage. And I'm wondering what we can
take from her, not just the studies and the science,
but the quality of the life that she chose to
(07:04):
surround herself with. I mean, she'd been married, I think
at least twice. I mean, her life wasn't perfect in
any way, I'm sure, but there's something about that single purpose.
It seems like people jump around, even activists, are jumping
where the noise is trying to get the most eyes
on them, and where she was quietly dedicated and only
(07:28):
only took the linlight when it was purposeful to push
that single goal. And there's a success in that. And
I was once told by one of the mentors here
at KFI, Greg Ashlock, great guy, love Greg, but he
said that, you know, reminded me one time that success,
(07:49):
really successful people just do what other people don't want
to do, whether it's lazy or uninspired, whatever it is,
and that that consistency and single purpose and focus I
think that drives special people like Jane Goodall can be
a lesson to all of us. It just it's superior
(08:10):
than what most of us do on a daily basis.
It is, and I'm not downgrading the things that we
all do in our lives, so I don't care what
you're doing. It makes the system go. But there's something
about that single focus and kind of leaving traditional once
behind stuff things that clutter our homes, those types of things,
(08:32):
and the purest, simplest way of living to be able
to connect, in her case, with nature teaches us a lesson.
All right, So we're going to shut down and we
hear these terms all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
What does it really mean?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
We'll get more into that, but let's look and see why,
why what is this happening? So the recent government shut
shut down day two, I think my guess is tomorrow,
if we're going to shutdown, that's when you're going to
start hearing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
At least it.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think people will start being laid off tomorrow, that's
my guess. But it's turned into this heated political battle,
as it always does. But in this case, you're looking
at immigration and healthcare, two big things with Republicans obviously,
including House Speaker Mike Johnson and Vice President JD.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So they're accusing of the Democrats. And really, if you're
going to get technical, Democrats are the ones holding this up.
But really, in a tug of war, they're both playing.
They're trying to give free health care to people living
in the US illegally. Democrats strongly deny this. They say
(09:44):
their proposal only aims to restore Medicaid coverage to certain
immigrants who are in the country legally or with government approval.
I'm not sure what the distance or difference between those
things are. If you have approval that would be legally.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So I'm not sure how they discern against what those
two things are. I'm sure there's some sort of detail
there that somebody will leave a.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Talkback.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The disagreement is kind of the key reason Congress can't
agree on how to reopen the government.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is going to be the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If you remember, the longest shut down I think in
our history was last time Trump was in. One side
may say because he's a pain in the ass. The
other side may say, well, you know what, he knows
what he wants, and he's not going to bow to garbage.
He's going to push until he gets it. So earlier
this year, a law called the One Big Beautiful Act
(10:43):
a Bill Act if you remember, was passed under the
Trump administration administration. So this had a bunch of rule
tightening on who among non citizens can get Medicaid, cut
out many groups who had previously been covered. Refugees, asylum seekers.
These are the folks you got to think about, people
granted special permission to enter the country. Democrats want to
(11:07):
include a wider range of legally present immigrants, so not
just those categories, but others. So about one point four
million people could lose their health coverage under the new
law if.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
No changes are made. Now.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
My understanding though, is anybody can walk into an er.
It's one of the issues with a legal immigration. Anyone
can walk into an ER and still get coverage. They
can't turn you away. Now, there could be some point
if they find something and you need other tests or
what have you, but that is one way. That's one
(11:45):
of the burdens on the system that some would complain saying, yes,
but you know, illegal immigrants can go in there and
tax our system just by using the er system.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Republicans argue that some.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Of the immigrants, immigrants that Democrats want to help, brought
in under programs that they see as unlawful, especially ones
given parole under President Biden. These become a sticking point.
So these are folks from Venezuela. These could also be
Ukrainians by the way, that were allowed to enter for
(12:21):
humanitarian reasons. And I say that because on both sides,
and it bugs me on both sides. Whether you're Latino
Latino Latino and saying we got to protect immigrants, really
you don't care. You care about Latinos, and I you know,
if it was different immigrants coming, I think that it
(12:43):
would be different. That's why all of the immigration offices
and stuff in Los Angeles are all Latino focused. That's
the reality. But it does affect others as well. So
they were entering the US for humanitarians and could work
and live in the US legally. So the Trump team says, no,
(13:06):
those got to go those programs shouldn't get benefits. Legal
experts are looking at pointing out the other groups like
refugees asylum seekers clearly have recognized legal status so what
are you doing separating them? Medicaid obviously a big deal.
The only exception is for emergency hospital care like I
(13:27):
talked about, makes up then what they say is less
than one percent of Medicaid spending. Democrats insist they are
not trying to change that. Their focus, they say, is
on making sure millions of Americans keep getting help through
the Affordable Care Act. So some states already use their
own money to provide healthcare to undocumented residents, so that's
(13:49):
not something that would be messed with. But Republicans have
tried but failed to stop that in past legislation. So
this is at the core of the battle that's going on.
How does it affect us? You know, it almost gives
you an idea of how fat we are in the
government when they shut down, because you start looking at
(14:10):
your daily life.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
What does it, How does it pierce your life?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
What kind of services are not going on or if
they are going on? Then you can't help but think
about the people who are doing their jobs with their
money furload. If they're going to have back pay, that's
the way it seems that it goes. But can you
(14:36):
deal with back pay? Do you want to deal with
back pay. A lot of people are hand to mouth,
they're living paycheck to paycheck, and that could be a
scary proposition. So having said those things, yes, heart goes
out to those that work in the government that are
affected by what's going on in the federal government. But
(14:58):
I got to tell you, it goes to show you
how battles. I always say that with the right and
the left, they're playing tug awar but we're the rope,
and it goes to show you, in a small sense,
how that affects us. Now, we're only seeing it from
(15:19):
in this case, from the outside in. We're looking at
people that are affected immediately, meaning they work for the
government and they either have to do their job without
pay for right now, or they're not working at all
and therefore having to shut the doors of certain services.
That's what we're dealing with on a bigger level in
(15:41):
the United States as a whole. Whenever there's a battle
between those two sides, we're going to be the ones losing.
And to me, it's another reminder of that it's not
about them who are serving us in these government positions.
That's just a reminder of how we're all affected all
the time by squabbles and battles that go on between
(16:02):
the left and the right. So how is it going
to affect it, Well, there's tons of things. If it
continues to go on today being day number two, tomorrow,
I really believe that we'll start seeing some layoffs or
that card will be played more heavily tomorrow. I think
it will. I think it will actualize. I think that
kind of power. Trump doesn't seem like the type to
(16:26):
waste power moves, and if he is in that power seat,
I find it hard to believe that he won't utilize
that to cut some areas, if for nothing else being vindictive,
I don't put that past him. But on the flip side,
it could be cutting fat fat that they see on
(16:48):
the right.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So what are some of those services?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Public safety is going to be at the top of that,
so our tax money funds police, fire departments, medical service,
emergency medical services, military.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So if that is happening, this is.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Another point where they're going to be working either without money,
without pay for this time, at least not immediate pay,
or there will be some people furloughed or things like that.
It's probably one of the last things they end up doing.
But There's also a lot of infrastructure that goes kind
of without saying we don't see it, we don't feel it.
(17:31):
It just kind of does. It's like breathing. It just happens,
so we take it for granted. But that could be
any of the government agencies responsible for maintaining roads.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Do we even have that service in la I don't
think so.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Not in my Neahoro.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Roads potholes they should actually fill the potholes with homeless people.
They make little homes in them, transitional homes, building maintainings,
a bridge, public transportation, even airports, public parts. I mean,
I think the TSA is affected as well, so they're
(18:10):
not going to get paid right now while they're working. Infrastructure,
of course is a big deal. Utilities, essential services like water, sewage,
garbage collection. What does that mean that there won't be
garbage collection on garbage day during this?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Is garbage collection a federal government job?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, that's what it's saying, But I don't know that
it would be. Isn't that logo or maybe that is
that is regulation of those things, because that's got to
be local, right, I would think, so, I don't know
how that would deal with us specifically, because I imagine
garbage is going to be collected, but regulating, I don't
(18:55):
know what that means. In that does that mean they're
going to take toxic waste if you have them picking
up today? The US Postal Service delivers mail packages obviously,
while the Federal uh Communications Commission regulates telecommunications. I don't
know that that's going to cause any major problems within the.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Next few days.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Education, you've got government funds of public schools setting educational standards.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Is that gonna mess with us? Nah? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
For a handful of days that's long term stuch stuff, research,
those types of things, any of that. If you take
a weekend, three days, gosh, maybe even a week, you're
not going to see heavy duty weight from those areas.
Your consumer environmental protections. I know Handle was talking about
(19:47):
food and product safety. We're not going to have that
prevent you know, poisonings and things like that. I don't think,
you know, with the way the food chain works, a
couple handful of days, maybe even a week, that's not
going to touch any that. They're ahead of those things
already as it is now. Environmental quality, clean air, stuff
(20:11):
like that, I don't think it's going to affect us
right away. Rights and freedoms. You've got to love this.
Civil rights, labor laws, intellectual property. The government protects all
these things. Again, is it going to push off cases
that are going on right now? Yes, those probably won't
be prosecuted or dealt with in court.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But is that going to affect us? No, but national
parks might.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know, the national parks probably remain open, but with
a very small amount of workers. There's tons of federal
workers that aren't working today. I'm sure travel will probably
it continues, but we'll probably have delays, longer lines, things
like that. I don't think childcare stints for you know,
(21:01):
federally funded programs head start. They may find funding depletion.
But again, these are all longer term than the immediate
focus that we have right now. We'll have to see
what they end up being in the long term. But
if we can get this done within the next couple
of days, I know we're coming up against a weekend,
(21:22):
then I think the vast majority of the stuff won't
be sticky enough for us to feel all right and
crew here, Bill Handle is out today for the Jewish
holiday Joam Kippor Day of Atonement. And Ann is out
as well. I think she works tonight, so she's out.
And we've got Matthew here, happy to have him aboard.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
So, you know, with all the battling going on.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Politically and late night television and everything else, in the
battle for eyeballs and earballs and everything else, it's interesting
that Fox News is pulling ahead in television. And I
find this interesting because I'm not a huge fan of Listen,
every news outlet has a bias, a bias, every single one.
(22:11):
That's just human nature. You can't remove that. It's the
heavy bias or the stuff that.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So oftentimes Fox News and MSNBC and stuff just it's
a little too overboard for me to where I go.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Sometimes I'll balance them out with each other and see
if there's something in between. But you got to really
dig or remove the editorial language. However, when it comes
to those shows, those programming where you've got people in
the round talking to me, that's just like talk radio here,
you're gonna have a bias. I have a bias. Everybody
(22:49):
has a bias. Mine might be more nuanced than others
because of the fact that I'm not king shakes or
read no, because I am not. I do not partake
in the partisanship. I look at case by case and
that doesn't make me better than anybody else by any
(23:12):
stretch of the imagination. Is just the way I do things.
I'm I'm a rationalist. I want it to make sense
to me, and but it is. I thought this was
worth noting because of the times that we're in that
there's so much fighting. Yet you have the third quarter
of twenty twenty five that we're living right this moment.
(23:34):
You've got Fox News Channel pulling ahead of its TV competition.
That means ABC, your traditional ones, CBS, NBC, even ESPN
not a news station but sports news. And they have
an average of three point three million weekday prime time viewers.
That is more than the late night shows that get
(23:56):
the vast majority of the airtime. On social media and
all of those things. It also remains the top choice
in cable news. It outperforms MSNBC CNN by a wide
Morgin of margin rather in both daytime and primetime hours.
While CNN NSMMMS, I can't even say it. MSNBC saw
(24:21):
some of their lowest ratings in years. Fox News continued
a ninety five quarter winning streak as the number one
cable news network for primetime viewership. One of the standout
shows is The Five. I will tell you.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I've never seen the show.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I'm told it has Dana Perino, Greg Guttfeld.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I know he's a political guy and he's a pundit
and that's what he does. But the guy delights me.
I find him funny. Sometimes he's mean. I find him funny,
and I find him smart. Jesse, Jessica Tarlov and Harold
Ford Junior. So I've never watched the show, but like
(25:09):
I said, Greg Guttfield does make me laugh at times.
And you know, I think I've said this on the
show before. I was at a party.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It was a rather large one and.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He was there, and I've had he and I would
email back and forth many years ago. I was introduced
to him through a buddy of mine and he was
at this party and the guy who played who I
forget his name all the time, who played Jesus in
Passion of the Christ, Covill Cavil. He was there, very
(25:44):
serious guy by the way, and Greg Guttfeld kept trying
to get me to fight him. He says, I want
to see the two Jesus guys fight and I think
he had had a couple of pops and he's.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like, fight, go go up and push it. I'm not
going to go up and bush them.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But that that story to me always echoes in my head.
What you know, trying to get me to fight James.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Cavill or whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Anyways, I thought this was interesting because in a time
where everybody is so partisan on these things and everybody
mocks Fox News that it it tends to be the
leader right now. I don't know what that says about
the state of our union, but it stood out.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
To me when I was looking at What's that I misspoke?
It was Jim Cavezill, cavi Kevill, What Cavsill, Cavi CAVIASL, Caveasl,
I haven't Yeah, CAVIASL and.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Cavill I never remember his name. I think he's a
terrific actor.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I just never read any Yeah, and he's adorable.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
But Henry Cavell, that's Superman.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Superman, Captain handsome. That guy is one of the few
men that make my knees weak. Yeah, there's something about
him that is so manly. It's like he's the exact
opposite of Kno, he's like a real man, but he
like he cooks. I don't know, he just uh, he
(27:20):
makes me feel like a woman. Like it's just like
the guy watching the room. Yeah, yeah, but Shania Twain
doesn't like sex though you ever heard that about her?
Wasn't there an article or something.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
That you've really gotten off track? Haven't we? Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, I guess we have. It's kind of like the five.
All right, we'll be back with more of whatever this
is when we return. We got Joel large guards. Is
Joel coming up when we come back or later in
the hour?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Look at the rundown.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The rundown says next, I'm trying to make you work, bro, Well,
Matt did that for us. No, but I'm trying to
keep view on point. I know where we're going. Do
you know where we're going?
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