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You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Bill Handle here Monday morning in October, the sixth and
well first Monday in October means Supreme Court is going
to dive into, I would say, mainly the issue of
presidential power. There's a couple of other fun cases. Guess
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what's back, conversion therapy. If you're gay, you hate God?
If you're gay, we're all straighten that out with you praying.
Just really weird stuff, this conversion therapy and now and
it's illegal in a lot of states. And there's a
therapist with filed lawsuit saying if I want to use
conversion therapy, it's my First Amendment right to do.
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So we'll talk about that a little bit later on.
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In the meantime, here is an issue of what's going
on with a president. A federal judge has just blocked
the Trump administration from deploying the California National Guard or
any Guard troops in Oregon, for example. Now this is
a very strange one because again the president pushing the
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envelope of power. The President has declared that certain cities
are war zones and under emergency powers that he has,
he can actually move in the National Guard without the
governor asking for it, which is the way it works,
without the mayor asking the governor to ask for it.
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As a matter of fact, the mayor of Oregon, I
mean the mayor of I think it was Portland, Los Angeles.
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Chicago, said we don't want the troops here.
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This is not a war zone, this is not a
major invasion. The way the president is declaring that if
he declares we're at war with the bad guys in
these cities, and he has the power to move forward
and bring in the National Guard. Well, in California, it
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was ruled the National Guard could not be in California.
The court said you can't do that. So what the
President date is took California National Guard troops and move
them to Oregon. And that's what this judge just said. No,
you can't do that either. And of course there is
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an appeal going on. And Newsom said, the rule of
law has prevailed, and this was a lawsuit that the
State of California filed. The California National Guard is heading home,
that's from Oregon. This ruling is more than a legal victory.
It's a victory for American democracy. Trump tried to turn
our soldiers into instrument of his political will, and the
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fight continues. Though tonight the rule of law is hell no,
so the jump. The judge temporary blocked the administration from
doing this, which is kind of interesting because the court
up to this point has allowed in the case for
example of detainees, where the constitutionality of certain actions of
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the administration is argued, the court has said, yes, there
is a case, but yes, under an emergency order, we're
allowing the Trump administration to go forward with what they're doing,
pending the hearing of the facts of the case. These
are emergency orders that are thrown in. In this case,
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it was an emergency order that asked the court ask
this judge, because that's where it all starts, to say, no,
you can't do this. You can't just arbitrary claim that
these cities are war zones based on what you say,
I mean, there has to be some connection. And the
judge said that the Trump administration really made no argument
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if you look at the facts, it's just not the case.
Local law enforcement can deal with this. Does deal with
this now? Does it deal with it badly?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah?
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Sometimes it does Amy was talking about who comes from
Portland that downtown Portland is a god awful mess. It is,
you know, buildings are boarded up and a lot of
the bad guys are there. But does it reach a
level where the president is able to nationalize the Guard
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and bring in troops? And that's what's scarying civil libertarians
so much, because the president can simply on his own
declare a city, a state, a war zone, and under
his emergency powers which he is given, then he can
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go ahead and nationalize the Guard. And that's the scary
part for a lot of people. What is emergency powers?
Anything the president says is an emergency power. And the
court said, the lower court said, no, I mean, we
have to have some kind of real emergency.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
This isn't.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Of course, the Trump administration will and did instantly file
for an appeal and we'll see what happens when this one,
now I can't imagine maybe it's going to happen that
goes to Supreme Court, which is going to go very
quickly that the court on an emergency basis, The court
will say, you know, pending a resolution, sure the president
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can go forward and declare an emergency any place in
any part of the country he wants, because he has
the power du so under the Emergency Power Act.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, Supreme Court starts today.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The nine injustices, we take their seats and they sit
way up there on that mahogany bench, that table, and
now a new.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Term starts now.
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Over the past three months, this is during their vacation,
the Court was repeatedly forced to hammer through emergency cases
involving the President. And if you look at the written arguments,
if you look at the written decisions, man, it follows
what the country is doing.
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Conservatives hating liberals.
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Or progressives now and the dissension rides right up to
the Supreme Court. And there'll be a lot of high
stakes political confrontations. There'll be disputes. There are disputes or
transgender youth. There's a case that threatens a key provision
of the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act, which considered
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the landmark case. The judges will be working through this
tension that has developed with lower court judges. And then
you have polling what do the American people think of
the Court, And usually American people think, well, the Court
is one of the most admired places in government, because
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the Court was viewed as even a conservative or a
liberal court for the most part among Americans, as something
or an agency that is to be respected and was.
So here's a poll that just came out. It was
Gallup poll. Seventy nine percent of Republicans approve of the court.
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Fourteen percent of Democrats approve. Why seventy nine Republicans because
the Court has leaned far right and it was.
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A far left court.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
What a lot of liberals don't acknowledge is that when
we talk about the Warren Court, which was decades and
decades ago, it was for the most part of Warren Court,
and until President Trump nominated and got confirmed three very
conservative justices that switched the majority. Now it's six' three
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in favor of conservative. Judges it was considered a liberal.
Court so The court wrapped up its last term In.
June what it does is that here's cases all like Now,
october and Come, june the day the last week of
the term outcomes all the decisions and.
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It is a, big big deal when that.
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Comes so In, june there was a DECISION i touched
on the president's.
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Power it's a big.
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One, here a six to three majority took out one
path that lower courts have used for years to block
a president's. Policies The trump administration, arguing how do you
have one judge can stop an entire federal policy from going?
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Forward and The court, said, yeah you're.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Right so now the court turns to three major cases
involving the.
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President the.
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Tariffs congress has the right to impose those. Tariffs, however
under authority of The International Emergency Economics Power, act to
impose those. Duties The president can do this effectively by
saying that we are under, attack that it is a national,
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emergency our economic, position and therefore it's basically a war
power that he is saying to impose those.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Terrorists can he do? It that's what the court has to.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Do how about the firing of leaders at independent government?
Agencies how independent are government agencies? Now they used to
not be. Independent it was AFTER fdr became president that
all of a sudden we had agencies become totally, independent
especially The Federal. Reserve the point is we did not
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want The Federal reserve to be a political. Body, well
guess what the president says it is and he has
the right to fire whoever the hell he wants if
they work for the executive. Branch, effectively there's no such
thing as an independent agency anymore in The United. States
the president has full power and that is what The
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court is going to. Decide by the, Way conservatives have
been arguing that for years transgender, rights, well that one
affects almost no, one but it's a big it's a
big issue when it comes to his, base THE maga.
Supporters and that is In june and a six' three
conservative majority exactly with the court planned out or the court,
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pans out they Upheld the tennessee law that bans gender
affirming care for. Trans miners that's a fairly, big deal
except how many are. Out there and then the court
goes into sexuality and the gender of minors the day.
After reconvening that. Starts tomorrow there's a challenge To the
colorado law banning. Conversion therapy that's a. Big one, CONVERSION therapy,
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i mean that's. Crazy stuff it's a practice has been
discredited for converting gay people or transgender people back into
being straight with with prayer, and uh with just how
do you even? Do this? With response in, other words
they show porno films, for example and electric, shock therapy
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and so every time you see a, porno film all of,
a sudden You's.
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Like pavlovian that's sort of.
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THE outskirts, i mean there, are issues there were people that,
did that but effectively saying that homosexuality is uh a is,
a sickness, is depraved and we're going to bring you
back to straightness straight hood by converting you. Through prayer
and this. Is religious by, The Way mike pence was,
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a big big believer. Of this he was part of
an organization and matter, OF fact i think he was
head of an organization that.
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Did this uh THAT one i.
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Find incredible and then it has to do it with
state spanning transgender students from playing on.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
SPORTS seeming i think.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We all agree that if you were born a male
and therefore have the, male stuff the skeletal strength and, muscle,
mass yeah don't. Play that and then the, big one
another big. One redistricting now the court took they.
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Punted the case because of the claim of.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Racial jerymandering can state jerry mander canni? State, Redistrict, yeah
canni state do it on, racial grounds because that's what this,
Is about black areas versus white Areas read Democrat. Versus
republicans can it, be done, don't know but it's going
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to be emergency request after. Emergency request it's going to
be a. Big ONE and i think it all boils
down to presidential power and where it's going.
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To go, All right this week is.
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The announcement of The Various nobel prizes are happening all.
THE way i Think The medicine prize just, came out
or the physics prizes. Came out usually no one knows
who these, people are and for the, most part it's,
weird stuff very obscure scientific discoveries. And developments and Sometimes
The nobel prize. Is shared there'll be two people or.
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Three people they get it from. Different countries and so
the one that everybody looks at Is The, peace Prize
The Nobel, peace prize which is not only the, most
controversial the most interesting one. Of all that's Announced, on
friday And the president has pushed for it very. Very
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hard he's not going to, get it and, interestingly enough
what he's been able, to do especially if he puts
together this, peace plan and he's the only person that
can probably make. It Happen between Gaza. And israel there's
a good argument that he should get it based on
those accomplishments and based on what they've given peace prizes
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before to various people that make no, SENSE whatsoever, i
mean just. Crazy sense so he is arguing For The.
Peace prize he'll never, get it and not whether he
deserves it. Or not that's a whole issue we're. Talking
about it's just they don't. LIKE him, i mean he
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is not the most well liked person in, the world
especially among.
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Our allies.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And that's. Who decides it's a. Close committee no one
knows who. They are And The nobel prize in and
of itself is kind. Of Interesting alfred nobel invented, dyno
might and he, dyna might and the story is that
he was frightened a hell. Of it he realized the danger,
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of it and so therefore he developed the, various prizes
and he started with.
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The prize by, the way he was a very very.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Wealthy, guy today the prize is keeping the. Principle together
they never go into. The principle they always take what the.
Principle makes what's in the account is about one point
two million dollars per prize is, handed out so it's
about six seven million dollars eight million dollars that's handed out.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Every year in some years they don't even.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Give it so in eighteen, ninety five here's. The story
nobel writes his third and, last will establishing Five, prizes,
chemistry literature physiology, or, medicine physics And.
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The, peace prize the.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Big one and he dies the next year and the
first prizes were.
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Giving out in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh One teddy roosevelt won it for negotiating, the War
The Russo japanese war the turn of the. Last century
and it's such a interesting story about how he did
it and the various people who get. The prize, for
example in nineteen, fifty three the Laureate WAS. George, c
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marshall president Of The red cross and founder Of The,
marshall Plan which europe came back as a viable set,
of countries All of europe Without The, Peace prize Without
the marshall planet would have.
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Fallen apart but.
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At the same time he had been COMMANDER of us
military forces during, the war and that doesn't bode Well For.
PEACE prize A new Secretary of Defense huh in nineteen,
SEVENTY Three us Secretary Of Saint henry Kissinger and Lee Dut,
Tow vietnam vietnam's chief negotiator negotiating, The armisists, coe, said no,
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not interested wouldn't accept the prize because peace had not
yet been Established.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
In vietnam this was The Armisticist.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Mother, teresa now who's going to Disagree With mother teresa
in nineteen. Seventy, nine now she was not involved in
any peace plan, between nations which is usually. The case
but of course she Founded the Missionaries Of. Charity Americans
jane adams was that the way at the turn of the,
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last century establishing these homes for, poor people.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Which was.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Unheard Of Martin luther king. Got It jane Adams Established,
hull house that was the name. Of it king became
the youngest at age. Thirty five So The peace prize
also has gone to. Various Committees amnesty international Got The,
peace prize the, Organization Itself Dodgers without borders. Got it
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so we're going to see who Gets The. Peace Prize
barack obama Won The nobel prize for his. Extraordinary achievements what?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Are they his? Extraordinary achievements what? Were they.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He? Got elected that's What The Nobel. Peace prize so
we're gonna hear About The nobel prize coming Up. On
friday the prize, for literature we're gonna. Hear midweek usually
it's people who you've never, Heard of peruvian poets who
sit on top of mountains that. Produce Crap But bob
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dillon won it last year. For literature first time a
songwriter ever Won The, PEACE prize i ever Won A.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Nobel prize that's.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Pretty, impressive which by, the way he wouldn't go to,
accept it which who the hell doesn't go to Accept The.
Nobel Prize bob dylan just, not interested wouldn't go to.
The ceremony he later did accept, the prize but last
day that was allowed to be accepted and it was Very.
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JUST yeah i think he sent someone to pick. It
up so we're gonna see. What happens what's the first
prize just? Been, ESTABLISHED amy i think medicine just, came,
out right.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Medicine, Was, today Yes two americans And a japanese. Person,
wanted yeah they.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
SHARE it a lot of people share because medicine is now,
very international it's.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Very.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Collaborative yeah it was for the body's response to immune, system.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah now it's getting.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Pretty obscure these the prizes go for various inventions and
developments that are. Very obscure, all right coming out Of
The peace prize On The, literature prize? Can't wait, all
right now we have you know this one IS when
i started looking, INTO this, i went, come, On really
california has an incredible. Nursing shortage but, IN fact i
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had lunch with was it saturday? OR yesterday i had
Lunch With jim keeney Who Runs. Mary hospital he's a
medical Director Of, saint mary and we always talk about what's,
going on what's going on in. The WORLD and i, asked,
him so what are the most challenging things you have
now that you're a? Medical director and, he says one
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of them is the. Nursing shortage we just don't have.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Enough nurses.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Nurses are, desperately needed particularly Here, in california and you've
got demand. For nurses you have, retirement burnout a lot
of them are leaving. Like crazy but you want to,
know something there are two reasons why we have such a.
Nursing shortage there are plenty of people that want to.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Be nurses.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
There are plenty of schools, out there but they can't find,
enough faculty and there aren't the hands on training opportunities
because that's, the law you have to train fifteen teen.
Hundred hours and a lot of these hospitals are not
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interested in. Training nurses they just don't want to. Train
anybody they just have to do their job and just dealing.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
With nursing and there is.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The problem so you had Here in california in twenty
twenty two to. Twenty three it's the last most recent,
data available fifty eight thousand applications.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
By.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Qualified students right bottom line is a third, were accepted
just a third with this kind.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Of shortage and these are.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Qualified people why because there just isn't enough teaching and
the whole, excuse me and this law that requires hands
on just stops.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Everything cold are?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Their, answers, well yeah some of the teaching, colleges saying tell,
you what why don't we get these, fake people, you
know the simulated people you put like like you have,
the models, you know the silicon models that you DO ccp,
r on, you know and they have technology there that they,
can bleed they can, stop breathing they can, do whatever
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and let's.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Use, those nope not. A chance.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
We want we the nursing lobby wants to be right hands.
On again they want to, control everything and this has
really pissed off a lot, of people even to the
point where last year the legislature approved sixty million dollars
five year grand to expand community college nursing programs partnerships
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with four year schools for bachelor's degree because that's what,
nursing is it's a, bachelor's degree.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And they just don't. Have ENOUGH so i wanted to talk.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
ABOUT this i wanted to because there's a good chance
next week you're going to have a loved one that's
going to be in a facility and because there are
a shortage of, nurses there your loved one. WILL die
i just want to point. That out or maybe you
will die one of. The two And what i'm going
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to do IS say i told you. Last, Week right
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