November 4, 2025 • 22 mins
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KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich covers Apple’s latest software update, TikTok’s first-ever award show, AI and heart health. Enjoy Apply CarPlay while you still can. Why the future of coffer doesn’t belong to Starbucks.
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich covers Apple’s latest software update, TikTok’s first-ever award show, AI and heart health. Enjoy Apply CarPlay while you still can. Why the future of coffer doesn’t belong to Starbucks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're list Saints.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Kf I AM six forty the Bill Handles show on
demand on the iHeartRadio ff.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bill Handle here on a Tuesday, A actually tech Tuesday
with Rich quick reminder that if you haven't voted yet
for Prop fifty, don't bother. It's going to win. Vote
don't vote it's winning. How's that for a public service message?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hump, thank you. And there are votes going on on
the East coast.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Virginia is having a big governor's race, and of course
New York is the one everybody's looking at to mom
Donnie versus Curtis Sill, no chance, not enough berets in
the city. And you've got Cuomo who hates Trump. Trump
hates him, but yet it's he's endorsing him. Now you
(00:56):
go figure, all right, Moving on away from politics for
a moment, it's time for Tech Tuesday with Rich Demurrow.
You can hear them live every Saturday, eleven to two
pm here on KFI, every day on KTLA TV, Instagram,
at Rich on Tech website, Rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to Bill.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, Oh, I've got some questions to ask you. Uh,
the latest software update from Apple. Now, before we get
into that, I have updates that come like every fifteen minutes,
it seems on my phone. So I'm assuming this is
a big deal relative to the all of the other
updates that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Correct All the other updates we've seen so far for
iOS twenty six have been just small, sort of incremental updates.
Whenever they do a dot one, dot two, dot four,
that means those are a larger update filled with you know,
not just security fixes, but kind of feedback from what
consumers have been asking for. And this one, specifically, Bill,
(01:58):
I think is a really interesting one because you know,
we got this new liquid glass design on the iPhone
that's been very polarizing to folks. Some people say it's
tough to read, it's tough to use, it's harder to
look at. And so now I think this is Apple's
first admission that, Okay, not everyone likes this, because there
is a new option in your display settings where you
(02:20):
can tone down liquid glass, so you can go from
the standard liquid glass or a new tinted mode, which
basically gets rid of the transparency so you can see
everything better and read everything better.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
By the way, have you looked at this and tried it.
In your opinion of liquid glass, you know, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Have been using it. I would say I think overall
it's good. I do like it. I think that it
depends on, you know, eyesight is a very specific thing
to a lot of people. What bugs people, what they like,
what they don't like, what's easy to read, what's not
easy to read, based on you know, anyone's given site.
And so I think that having this option is better
because it definitely makes things more readable because they are
(03:02):
less transparent. So if you want to see it, you
can go into settings displaying brightness and there's a new
option for liquid glass that says clear or tinted. Just
choose the ones that you like. It gives you a
little diagram up at the top to let you see
what the differences are. Basically, it's just less transparent, so
everything's just simpler on the screen.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Isn't glass always liquid when it starts?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh? That part I do not know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
All I know is that if you really look through it,
Apple did, I mean, look, there's no denying that Apple's
attention to detail is just so great that when you
go through this phone and look at how they did
liquid glass. It really is like quite impressive how you
can see stuff through like the little menus and you
can drag your finger around and like bubble up whatever.
But you know it's not for everyone. So I don't know.
(03:53):
I thought glass started as sands, but what do I know?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It does no, but it becomes bolten, it becomes you
heated up to three thousand degrees and had some coke
to it, the mineral coke, and there is Welton glass.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
He pour it out.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's all good stuff. Oh have you and I just
want to throw this before going Another topic is I
just read an article in the Well Street Journal about
how Tim Cook basically saved Apple as it was going south.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Have you picked that up?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Tim Cook is a very smart man, and he is
a logistics guy, and so he may not be inventing
the next iPad, but he is very savvy when it
comes to business, and so I have no doubt that
here's a company that was handed to him after, you know,
Steve Jobs passed away and they had one product that
(04:45):
was a winner, and that was the iPhone, and you know,
not so much.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The iPad as well. But he had to take this.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Company and continue to run it for the past, you know,
ten almost fifteen years now without a breakthrough product, and
by the way, the one they tried to make, the
vision Pro, kind of flopped. But I do think he's
done great things for this company, keeping it going so yes,
very small and.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
By the way, he's a visionary being given credit for
him reading before the tariffs kicked in that tariffs were
going to come in, and he made major moves to
still manufacture the iPhones and the other products outside of China.
I mean, the guy is just I mean, you know,
he has a crystal ball in front of him and
this one I have rich. I just well, I should
(05:32):
have believe. This is TikTok's first ever award show, which
I'm assuming you can only see it on TikTok. It's
not going to be covered by any of the networks,
which would be very funny if they did. Well.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's okay, So it is happening here in Los Angeles
at the Palladium on December eighteenth. This is their first
ever US award show, and I think it makes sense.
TikTok is a force to be reckoned with, especially with
the young ends, you know, and not just youngins. It's
it's everyone. I mean every people love TikTok. They are
on this thing all day long, swiping through, and so
(06:08):
I think awards kind of fit. And by the way, yes,
you can watch it on not just TikTok, but also
to Be will be streaming it live. Yeah, and to
be I believe it's owned by Fox. Let's see is
to be owned by Fox? Yes, if to Be's owned
by Fox, So that's interesting. But I guess you know,
(06:30):
they see enough people tuning in for that, so they
want to carry it live. Why not? But yeah, so
you're gonna be able to have a red carpet, live performances,
live audience, so it's not just an online event. This
is like a real, you know, award ceremony in a
time bill when we know the standard awards ceremonies are struggling.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So it'll be interesting to see how this does.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, well, there's so many of a standard awards ceremony.
The People's Award, the People's Children's Award, the Young people,
the old people, the Middle aged People's Award, the iHeart
has I don't know how many awards shows.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But here's a practical question.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Academy Awards, for example, that's about two hundred films a
year actually come out. And in terms of even records albums,
I mean, you know, I don't know how many you
are out there, maybe a few thousand. TikTok has tens
(07:30):
or hundreds of millions of postings. How do you get
to a TikTok award when you're one of I don't know,
four million, eight million, twelve million.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Great question. So this is not focusing on the videos.
It's focusing on the people. So this is really about
creators that are on the platform. There is a Video
of the Year, but of course, you know, some things
do bubble up to the top. There's a muse of
the Year, Breakthrough Artists of the Year, And I think
(08:02):
what really will make this probably pretty popular is the
fact that these TikTokers are really superstars in the eyes
of their viewers and their followers. And a lot of
these people have you know, forty million followers. So I
think that the fact that we get to see these
people in a different light, in a different way than
(08:22):
just their videos on a tiny screen, I think is
what's probably going to propel this show to be pretty
popular among the YouTubers. The TikTokers that are watching out there.
I had to look up, you know, some of the people.
There's like five people that they mentioned in the piece
that are like creators of the year. I'm familiar with one,
two of them, and three of them I'm not. But
(08:45):
all of them, if you look them up, you know
they're all doing stuff that's quite unique and interesting in
their own way. I mean, these people are business people,
and they're not just business people. They're also highly creative,
using you know, the latest kind of editing from their
phone techniques to do deals. And they have to be
a business person and a content creator and a creative
executive all in one, and so you know, I do
(09:08):
give them credit for all of that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
One of the things I was looking at was the
kind of videos that are out there.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And what was it the mini.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Soap operas that occur like a couple of three minutes,
and they'll have a hundred of them, but huge production value.
I mean sound people and lighting people, and I mean
it's I never thought that would happen with TikTok. You know,
you think of TikTok as someone just holding up a
phone and saying, hey, here's what I'm doing, and here's
(09:41):
this new restaurant I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's gotten crazy, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, Yeah, And like the business aspect of this, to
me is what's really interesting because you're talking, you are supporting.
You know, sometimes these people, you know, the whole thing
about these TikTokers and the Instagrammers and the YouTubers of
the world, it looks like it's just them, right, Like
that's the whole thing is like this is just me.
Like you just said, Hey, I'm going to this restaurant.
I'm showing you this restaurant. Here's my video of it,
(10:07):
and you know, comedy and that kind of stuff. But
the reality is a lot of these people have a
team behind them. It doesn't always start that way. Obviously,
you have to start small. But it looks like you're
keeping it real. And I think that is the biggest
difference between something like a TikTok and what people are
drawn to and something like these big, you know, Hollywood
kind of productions that we're seeing. And so I think
(10:30):
the trick is for these people to keep it looking
like it is very small and just them, even when
they have a team that's helping them edit come up
with ideas, schedule things, business meetings, you know, business deals,
which is all happening you know right now?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I find that absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So there you have some eighteen year old who has
forty million followers and is making twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I mean it just it's phenomenal. I mean the different
ways that go ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, this one, Brooke Monk, she's got forty two million
followers on TikTok and she is twenty two years old
and followers.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what does she what does she do? I mean,
what's the premise of her TikTok program? Humor?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Lip syncs, everyday comedy. I mean, it's just creativity, you know,
like what here's my life, beauty fashion. I mean a
lot of these people it's just they're sharing their lives.
They also happen to be hot most of the time
or good looking or athletic or whatever and talented and smart.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
By the way, all right, Rich.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Thank you, we're talking in next week. Always always a pleasure,
have you, all right? Neil, Maybe that's why your TikTok
videos really didn't work out, because you're really hot and creative, and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I don't know, I think you're pretty hot. I've been
enough cleavage now, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Other people may not know you're hot, but you know
when I look at you on the monitor, I get would.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I'm telling you it's very wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Plenty plenty all right. Now, Apple car Play. If you
have an iPhone, which I do, of course you use
Apple CarPlay. It came out about a decade ago. And
until then, do you know the drivers, I don't even
remember this. We're stuck with whatever tech features were preloaded
into their cars, and it was ridiculous, so horrible.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So what does CarPlay let you do? Well?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You got Apple Maps, you got Spotify ways, you're not
fumbling for your phone. You're making hands free calls, dictating
text messages, which I find kind of fun. And it's
all free, and it's loved by millions, millions, tens of
millions of iPhone users.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So what does General Motors do well?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The CEO of General Motors, Mary Bara, just announced the
new cars that GM is going to be producing will
not support car Play or Android Auto, its counterpart, whoa Well.
Preliminary data from Auto Pacific research firm suggests that CarPlay
and Android Auto are considered must have features among many
(13:19):
new car shoppers.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Of course they are, there's no question. But according to GM,
the company can create even a.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Better experience for drivers by dropping Apple making its own software.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Hmm. And here is what I love this.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
GM is defending this by saying, let's say you remove
a feature like the disk drive on a laptop. Well,
people eventually adapt and they move on, right, and a
big hole in that one. So this change will happen
over time, not overnight. And if your car right now
supports Apple car Play or Android Auto, that will continue.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
How Ever, ain't gonna happen soon. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't quite understand how that analogy works because we're
not talking about new technology, we're talking basically about new software.
And so oh, there's another difference. GM software isn't tied
to a phone like CarPlay. So the full suite of
software which required its own data data plan, well, you're
(14:26):
gonna have to buy it from them through GM. Of
course it's free now, but GM is going to charge
for it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And here's why. Because automakers have realized how much money
they can make from in car technology.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The old subscription plan.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They don't just make the money when they sell you
the car or make the money when they provide spare parts.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
How about a monthly fee? WHOA, how about that?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And so maybe they charge a subscription fee for hands
free highway cruise control. GM already actually has that on
certain cars and it's fairly successful.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So no more Apple car Play in the future, and
it's all going to be behind a paywall. Toyota has
some navigation tools that require subscription, but CarPlay does the
same thing for no cost. Switching over to a non
free platform when you have a free platform is no
(15:29):
fun at all, and everybody accepts expects it for free.
It's like the Internet. You do internet shopping. Of course,
it's free to get on Safari or to get on
any other browser. I wonder if they're going to start
charging for that, Neil, do you see that happening?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I can see all of this happening at this point,
like subscriptions and pay nickel and diming forever rething.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, you know, we tried that here.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Remember the year a few years ago we tried a
subscription plan for the Morning Show and we had to
tell the three people who actually signed up that we
are not going to go forward with that.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, well that was rough.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, and one of them died, so it went down
to two people died before we said no. Now, coffee,
when Starbucks first came out, that was the introduction of
real coffee.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Before that, if you go to anyplace.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Else in the world and you talked about American coffee,
they would laugh at you. They viewed it as dirty water,
hot dirty waters.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
What it was known for.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And Howard Schultz picked up the idea that we were
ready for good coffee, good espresso, good lattes using pressure machines.
The espresso machines, which is the way coffee is made,
should be made percolator.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What does that do? It makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And drip coffee better, but certainly not coffee made through
a coffee machine, an espresso machine. So you have this
small Seattle coffee retailer and he goes in there and
opens up or did he buy it or he opened
it up in Seattle at Pike's Market. I think he
bought it, if I'm not mistaken. It was this tiny
little place and now it has seventeen thousand stores in
(17:19):
the US and obviously become one of the massive, massive
companies in terms.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Of food in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Certainly in the world of drink, and now coming up
are just dozens of regional favorites who want to become
national and one of them I'm going to tell you about,
and it's a company called Dutch Brothers.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Have you heard of Dutch Brothers, Neil.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Absolutely, they're proliferating out this way right now. But you
can find them in the Inland Empire and places like that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, they now have about one thousand drive through shops,
mainly in the West and South.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And what they want to do is quadruple.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Within the next ten years. Found it in the nineteen nineties.
Now when you think of Starbucks, first of all, I
hate Starbucks coffee. For me, it is way too bitter.
I am not a fan of Starbucks at all. Or
I find fascinating about Starbucks. I've actually seen this. There
is a Starbucks on one corner and across the street
(18:24):
is another Starbucks literally across the street. And then someone
pointed out bill in the morning, everybody goes in one
direction and everybody goes the other direction.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
And so people want to have a Starbucks. You can
turn right into yeah, and that Both Brothers is.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Great, incredibly popular and set their own pace as to
who they are, not just up against Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, and I'm assuming have you had Desh Brothers coffee? Yeah, Neil,
How does it compare to Starbucks?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh? I think it's way better. Okay, I don't go
to Starbucks person. Yeah, that seems to be the contest.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
The it seems to be the consensus and the story
of Dutch Brothers. They're two brothers who left dairy farming
and started to sell espresso from a push cart in
Grant's Pass, Oregon. So, Amy, you would know about Dutch
Brothers because you're right from that area. Yep.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
We have them everywhere up there, okay, and it's good
to see him expanding here. What's going to be an
issue is the Dutch Brothers are all drive through They're like,
it's a little key, yes, and there's so few drive
throughs here.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And by the way, that that is the future, isn't
it drive throughs as opposed to a in store because
you have the footprint, you have the cleaning, you don't
do anything. And I love what they have. They don't
have bodistas. They have Bryce does Breys does who try
(20:00):
to remember your name? Well, if they call everybody John
You're fine, And mainly it's gen Z started this. Coffee
preferences diverge by generation, according to an analyst uh for
who says, like everybody likes chicken sandwiches, but older customers
still drink hot black coffee. Younger ones the colorful energy
(20:22):
drinks and the iced concoctions. That's where it is. It's
among the younger drinkers. I don't drink well. I like
an iced coffee in the middle of the summer sometimes
when it's hot out there. So Dutch Brother's coffee is
out there for everyone. I can't wait to do that
drive through. Well Pete's Coffee, how does that compare right now?
(20:45):
I mean that's always been around for a while. Uh neil,
I'm throwing it at you.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
The last time I went to a Pete's coffee, it's
it's been a minute, okay, And then you have to
compare them, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And then you have that at something leaf and Tea
and Leaves and Twigs or whatever the hell they call
that brand of coffee.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I get coffee at home.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, well, I'm having an espresso machine for me. It's
the best thing out there and it costs about a
buck a cup.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I love an espresso. Yeah, Amy, you were going.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
To say, I was going to say, you know what.
The other thing about Dutch bros. Is that is a
big thing is that their people are super friendly. It'll
be interesting to see if that translates down here in
la But in Oregon they're all at every single one
super friendly.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, let's say Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's, everybody is super friendly.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
The other day it was a Trader Joe's and there
was someone walking out the door and the guy screamed, Hey,
thanks for shoplifting. Okay, we're done.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
That's nice. Thank you community. Yes, yes, all right, Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Next tomorrow morning it starts all over again because Amy's back,
and it's Amy and Will five o'clock wake up call,
and then from six to nine Neil and I jump aboard.
We'll talk about what happened with Prop fifty. We'll talk
what happened, Well, we know it's gonna happen with Prop fifty.
The Mayor's race a little bit up in the air,
and we got a lot going on, and don't forget
(22:17):
and and Kono always here to add to the festivities.
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Speaker 2 (22:26):
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Kf I AM six forty the Bill Handles show on
demand on the iHeartRadio ff.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bill Handle here on a Tuesday, A actually tech Tuesday
with Rich quick reminder that if you haven't voted yet
for Prop fifty, don't bother. It's going to win. Vote
don't vote it's winning. How's that for a public service message?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hump, thank you. And there are votes going on on
the East coast.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Virginia is having a big governor's race, and of course
New York is the one everybody's looking at to mom
Donnie versus Curtis Sill, no chance, not enough berets in
the city. And you've got Cuomo who hates Trump. Trump
hates him, but yet it's he's endorsing him. Now you
(00:56):
go figure, all right, Moving on away from politics for
a moment, it's time for Tech Tuesday with Rich Demurrow.
You can hear them live every Saturday, eleven to two
pm here on KFI, every day on KTLA TV, Instagram,
at Rich on Tech website, Rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to Bill.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, Oh, I've got some questions to ask you. Uh,
the latest software update from Apple. Now, before we get
into that, I have updates that come like every fifteen minutes,
it seems on my phone. So I'm assuming this is
a big deal relative to the all of the other
updates that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Correct All the other updates we've seen so far for
iOS twenty six have been just small, sort of incremental updates.
Whenever they do a dot one, dot two, dot four,
that means those are a larger update filled with you know,
not just security fixes, but kind of feedback from what
consumers have been asking for. And this one, specifically, Bill,
(01:58):
I think is a really interesting one because you know,
we got this new liquid glass design on the iPhone
that's been very polarizing to folks. Some people say it's
tough to read, it's tough to use, it's harder to
look at. And so now I think this is Apple's
first admission that, Okay, not everyone likes this, because there
is a new option in your display settings where you
(02:20):
can tone down liquid glass, so you can go from
the standard liquid glass or a new tinted mode, which
basically gets rid of the transparency so you can see
everything better and read everything better.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
By the way, have you looked at this and tried it.
In your opinion of liquid glass, you know, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Have been using it. I would say I think overall
it's good. I do like it. I think that it
depends on, you know, eyesight is a very specific thing
to a lot of people. What bugs people, what they like,
what they don't like, what's easy to read, what's not
easy to read, based on you know, anyone's given site.
And so I think that having this option is better
because it definitely makes things more readable because they are
(03:02):
less transparent. So if you want to see it, you
can go into settings displaying brightness and there's a new
option for liquid glass that says clear or tinted. Just
choose the ones that you like. It gives you a
little diagram up at the top to let you see
what the differences are. Basically, it's just less transparent, so
everything's just simpler on the screen.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Isn't glass always liquid when it starts?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh? That part I do not know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
All I know is that if you really look through it,
Apple did, I mean, look, there's no denying that Apple's
attention to detail is just so great that when you
go through this phone and look at how they did
liquid glass. It really is like quite impressive how you
can see stuff through like the little menus and you
can drag your finger around and like bubble up whatever.
But you know it's not for everyone. So I don't know.
(03:53):
I thought glass started as sands, but what do I know?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It does no, but it becomes bolten, it becomes you
heated up to three thousand degrees and had some coke
to it, the mineral coke, and there is Welton glass.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
He pour it out.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It's all good stuff. Oh have you and I just
want to throw this before going Another topic is I
just read an article in the Well Street Journal about
how Tim Cook basically saved Apple as it was going south.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Have you picked that up?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Tim Cook is a very smart man, and he is
a logistics guy, and so he may not be inventing
the next iPad, but he is very savvy when it
comes to business, and so I have no doubt that
here's a company that was handed to him after, you know,
Steve Jobs passed away and they had one product that
(04:45):
was a winner, and that was the iPhone, and you know,
not so much.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The iPad as well. But he had to take this.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Company and continue to run it for the past, you know,
ten almost fifteen years now without a breakthrough product, and
by the way, the one they tried to make, the
vision Pro, kind of flopped. But I do think he's
done great things for this company, keeping it going so yes,
very small and.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
By the way, he's a visionary being given credit for
him reading before the tariffs kicked in that tariffs were
going to come in, and he made major moves to
still manufacture the iPhones and the other products outside of China.
I mean, the guy is just I mean, you know,
he has a crystal ball in front of him and
this one I have rich. I just well, I should
(05:32):
have believe. This is TikTok's first ever award show, which
I'm assuming you can only see it on TikTok. It's
not going to be covered by any of the networks,
which would be very funny if they did. Well.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's okay, So it is happening here in Los Angeles
at the Palladium on December eighteenth. This is their first
ever US award show, and I think it makes sense.
TikTok is a force to be reckoned with, especially with
the young ends, you know, and not just youngins. It's
it's everyone. I mean every people love TikTok. They are
on this thing all day long, swiping through, and so
(06:08):
I think awards kind of fit. And by the way, yes,
you can watch it on not just TikTok, but also
to Be will be streaming it live. Yeah, and to
be I believe it's owned by Fox. Let's see is
to be owned by Fox? Yes, if to Be's owned
by Fox, So that's interesting. But I guess you know,
(06:30):
they see enough people tuning in for that, so they
want to carry it live. Why not? But yeah, so
you're gonna be able to have a red carpet, live performances,
live audience, so it's not just an online event. This
is like a real, you know, award ceremony in a
time bill when we know the standard awards ceremonies are struggling.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So it'll be interesting to see how this does.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, well, there's so many of a standard awards ceremony.
The People's Award, the People's Children's Award, the Young people,
the old people, the Middle aged People's Award, the iHeart
has I don't know how many awards shows.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But here's a practical question.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Academy Awards, for example, that's about two hundred films a
year actually come out. And in terms of even records albums,
I mean, you know, I don't know how many you
are out there, maybe a few thousand. TikTok has tens
(07:30):
or hundreds of millions of postings. How do you get
to a TikTok award when you're one of I don't know,
four million, eight million, twelve million.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Great question. So this is not focusing on the videos.
It's focusing on the people. So this is really about
creators that are on the platform. There is a Video
of the Year, but of course, you know, some things
do bubble up to the top. There's a muse of
the Year, Breakthrough Artists of the Year, And I think
(08:02):
what really will make this probably pretty popular is the
fact that these TikTokers are really superstars in the eyes
of their viewers and their followers. And a lot of
these people have you know, forty million followers. So I
think that the fact that we get to see these
people in a different light, in a different way than
(08:22):
just their videos on a tiny screen, I think is
what's probably going to propel this show to be pretty
popular among the YouTubers. The TikTokers that are watching out there.
I had to look up, you know, some of the people.
There's like five people that they mentioned in the piece
that are like creators of the year. I'm familiar with one,
two of them, and three of them I'm not. But
(08:45):
all of them, if you look them up, you know
they're all doing stuff that's quite unique and interesting in
their own way. I mean, these people are business people,
and they're not just business people. They're also highly creative,
using you know, the latest kind of editing from their
phone techniques to do deals. And they have to be
a business person and a content creator and a creative
executive all in one, and so you know, I do
(09:08):
give them credit for all of that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
One of the things I was looking at was the
kind of videos that are out there.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And what was it the mini.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Soap operas that occur like a couple of three minutes,
and they'll have a hundred of them, but huge production value.
I mean sound people and lighting people, and I mean
it's I never thought that would happen with TikTok. You know,
you think of TikTok as someone just holding up a
phone and saying, hey, here's what I'm doing, and here's
(09:41):
this new restaurant I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's gotten crazy, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, Yeah, And like the business aspect of this, to
me is what's really interesting because you're talking, you are supporting.
You know, sometimes these people, you know, the whole thing
about these TikTokers and the Instagrammers and the YouTubers of
the world, it looks like it's just them, right, Like
that's the whole thing is like this is just me.
Like you just said, Hey, I'm going to this restaurant.
I'm showing you this restaurant. Here's my video of it,
(10:07):
and you know, comedy and that kind of stuff. But
the reality is a lot of these people have a
team behind them. It doesn't always start that way. Obviously,
you have to start small. But it looks like you're
keeping it real. And I think that is the biggest
difference between something like a TikTok and what people are
drawn to and something like these big, you know, Hollywood
kind of productions that we're seeing. And so I think
(10:30):
the trick is for these people to keep it looking
like it is very small and just them, even when
they have a team that's helping them edit come up
with ideas, schedule things, business meetings, you know, business deals,
which is all happening you know right now?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I find that absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So there you have some eighteen year old who has
forty million followers and is making twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I mean it just it's phenomenal. I mean the different
ways that go ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, this one, Brooke Monk, she's got forty two million
followers on TikTok and she is twenty two years old
and followers.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what does she what does she do? I mean,
what's the premise of her TikTok program? Humor?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Lip syncs, everyday comedy. I mean, it's just creativity, you know,
like what here's my life, beauty fashion. I mean a
lot of these people it's just they're sharing their lives.
They also happen to be hot most of the time
or good looking or athletic or whatever and talented and smart.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
By the way, all right, Rich.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Thank you, we're talking in next week. Always always a pleasure,
have you, all right? Neil, Maybe that's why your TikTok
videos really didn't work out, because you're really hot and creative, and.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I don't know, I think you're pretty hot. I've been
enough cleavage now, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Other people may not know you're hot, but you know
when I look at you on the monitor, I get would.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I'm telling you it's very wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Plenty plenty all right. Now, Apple car Play. If you
have an iPhone, which I do, of course you use
Apple CarPlay. It came out about a decade ago. And
until then, do you know the drivers, I don't even
remember this. We're stuck with whatever tech features were preloaded
into their cars, and it was ridiculous, so horrible.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
So what does CarPlay let you do? Well?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You got Apple Maps, you got Spotify ways, you're not
fumbling for your phone. You're making hands free calls, dictating
text messages, which I find kind of fun. And it's
all free, and it's loved by millions, millions, tens of
millions of iPhone users.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So what does General Motors do well?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The CEO of General Motors, Mary Bara, just announced the
new cars that GM is going to be producing will
not support car Play or Android Auto, its counterpart, whoa Well.
Preliminary data from Auto Pacific research firm suggests that CarPlay
and Android Auto are considered must have features among many
(13:19):
new car shoppers.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Of course they are, there's no question. But according to GM,
the company can create even a.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Better experience for drivers by dropping Apple making its own software.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Hmm. And here is what I love this.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
GM is defending this by saying, let's say you remove
a feature like the disk drive on a laptop. Well,
people eventually adapt and they move on, right, and a
big hole in that one. So this change will happen
over time, not overnight. And if your car right now
supports Apple car Play or Android Auto, that will continue.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
How Ever, ain't gonna happen soon. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't quite understand how that analogy works because we're
not talking about new technology, we're talking basically about new software.
And so oh, there's another difference. GM software isn't tied
to a phone like CarPlay. So the full suite of
software which required its own data data plan, well, you're
(14:26):
gonna have to buy it from them through GM. Of
course it's free now, but GM is going to charge
for it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And here's why. Because automakers have realized how much money
they can make from in car technology.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
The old subscription plan.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They don't just make the money when they sell you
the car or make the money when they provide spare parts.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
How about a monthly fee? WHOA, how about that?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And so maybe they charge a subscription fee for hands
free highway cruise control. GM already actually has that on
certain cars and it's fairly successful.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So no more Apple car Play in the future, and
it's all going to be behind a paywall. Toyota has
some navigation tools that require subscription, but CarPlay does the
same thing for no cost. Switching over to a non
free platform when you have a free platform is no
(15:29):
fun at all, and everybody accepts expects it for free.
It's like the Internet. You do internet shopping. Of course,
it's free to get on Safari or to get on
any other browser. I wonder if they're going to start
charging for that, Neil, do you see that happening?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I can see all of this happening at this point,
like subscriptions and pay nickel and diming forever rething.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, you know, we tried that here.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Remember the year a few years ago we tried a
subscription plan for the Morning Show and we had to
tell the three people who actually signed up that we
are not going to go forward with that.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, well that was rough.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, and one of them died, so it went down
to two people died before we said no. Now, coffee,
when Starbucks first came out, that was the introduction of
real coffee.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Before that, if you go to anyplace.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Else in the world and you talked about American coffee,
they would laugh at you. They viewed it as dirty water,
hot dirty waters.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
What it was known for.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And Howard Schultz picked up the idea that we were
ready for good coffee, good espresso, good lattes using pressure machines.
The espresso machines, which is the way coffee is made,
should be made percolator.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What does that do? It makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And drip coffee better, but certainly not coffee made through
a coffee machine, an espresso machine. So you have this
small Seattle coffee retailer and he goes in there and
opens up or did he buy it or he opened
it up in Seattle at Pike's Market. I think he
bought it, if I'm not mistaken. It was this tiny
little place and now it has seventeen thousand stores in
(17:19):
the US and obviously become one of the massive, massive
companies in terms.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Of food in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Certainly in the world of drink, and now coming up
are just dozens of regional favorites who want to become
national and one of them I'm going to tell you about,
and it's a company called Dutch Brothers.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Have you heard of Dutch Brothers, Neil.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Absolutely, they're proliferating out this way right now. But you
can find them in the Inland Empire and places like that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, they now have about one thousand drive through shops,
mainly in the West and South.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And what they want to do is quadruple.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Within the next ten years. Found it in the nineteen nineties.
Now when you think of Starbucks, first of all, I
hate Starbucks coffee. For me, it is way too bitter.
I am not a fan of Starbucks at all. Or
I find fascinating about Starbucks. I've actually seen this. There
is a Starbucks on one corner and across the street
(18:24):
is another Starbucks literally across the street. And then someone
pointed out bill in the morning, everybody goes in one
direction and everybody goes the other direction.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
And so people want to have a Starbucks. You can
turn right into yeah, and that Both Brothers is.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Great, incredibly popular and set their own pace as to
who they are, not just up against Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, and I'm assuming have you had Desh Brothers coffee? Yeah, Neil,
How does it compare to Starbucks?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh? I think it's way better. Okay, I don't go
to Starbucks person. Yeah, that seems to be the contest.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
The it seems to be the consensus and the story
of Dutch Brothers. They're two brothers who left dairy farming
and started to sell espresso from a push cart in
Grant's Pass, Oregon. So, Amy, you would know about Dutch
Brothers because you're right from that area. Yep.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
We have them everywhere up there, okay, and it's good
to see him expanding here. What's going to be an
issue is the Dutch Brothers are all drive through They're like,
it's a little key, yes, and there's so few drive
throughs here.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And by the way, that that is the future, isn't
it drive throughs as opposed to a in store because
you have the footprint, you have the cleaning, you don't
do anything. And I love what they have. They don't
have bodistas. They have Bryce does Breys does who try
(20:00):
to remember your name? Well, if they call everybody John
You're fine, And mainly it's gen Z started this. Coffee
preferences diverge by generation, according to an analyst uh for
who says, like everybody likes chicken sandwiches, but older customers
still drink hot black coffee. Younger ones the colorful energy
(20:22):
drinks and the iced concoctions. That's where it is. It's
among the younger drinkers. I don't drink well. I like
an iced coffee in the middle of the summer sometimes
when it's hot out there. So Dutch Brother's coffee is
out there for everyone. I can't wait to do that
drive through. Well Pete's Coffee, how does that compare right now?
(20:45):
I mean that's always been around for a while. Uh neil,
I'm throwing it at you.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
The last time I went to a Pete's coffee, it's
it's been a minute, okay, And then you have to
compare them, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And then you have that at something leaf and Tea
and Leaves and Twigs or whatever the hell they call
that brand of coffee.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I get coffee at home.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, well, I'm having an espresso machine for me. It's
the best thing out there and it costs about a
buck a cup.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I love an espresso. Yeah, Amy, you were going.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
To say, I was going to say, you know what.
The other thing about Dutch bros. Is that is a
big thing is that their people are super friendly. It'll
be interesting to see if that translates down here in
la But in Oregon they're all at every single one
super friendly.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, let's say Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's, everybody is super friendly.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
The other day it was a Trader Joe's and there
was someone walking out the door and the guy screamed, Hey,
thanks for shoplifting. Okay, we're done.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
That's nice. Thank you community. Yes, yes, all right, Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Next tomorrow morning it starts all over again because Amy's back,
and it's Amy and Will five o'clock wake up call,
and then from six to nine Neil and I jump aboard.
We'll talk about what happened with Prop fifty. We'll talk
what happened, Well, we know it's gonna happen with Prop fifty.
The Mayor's race a little bit up in the air,
and we got a lot going on, and don't forget
(22:17):
and and Kono always here to add to the festivities.
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