November 21, 2025 • 21 mins
(November 21, 2025)
President Trump calls Democrats ‘traitors’ for ‘seditious behavior’ in video to military. How perjuries led L.A. woman to be jailed as 'Tokyo Rose' traitor. Why is California losing good jobs to other states?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Kf I AM six forty Handle here on a Friday morning,
November twenty one. It's raining, it's footy Friday at eight,
it's ask candle anything at eight thirty.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay, this I don't even know where to go with
this one.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is another trump ism and it started with six
Democratic congress people.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Who are all former military people.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Who made a video saying, and this is in relation
to the president sending troops for example, attack possibly attacking Venezuela,
just a lot of things that many people think are illegal,
and that's going up through the courts. And what the
video said is five of the Democrats said, this is
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to the armed services.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You don't have to follow illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
One of them said, you cannot follow illegal orders. In
other words, you are asked to do something and it
is illegal, then you have a duty not to follow it.
Now that is a little bit complicated because who determines
what is legal or illegal. But just saying that, the
(01:26):
President immediately on truth Social came back and said that
that was seditious behavior punishable by death. This is really bad,
dangerous to our country. He wrote, in an earlier post,
their words cannot be allowed to stand seditious behavior from traitors,
lock them up. Okay, So let me give you a
(01:48):
little bit of law here. Okay, we start with the statement,
you do not have to follow illegal orders, or you
cannot follow illegal orders. Now, of course, Caroline Levitt said,
what do you hear a chain of command?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You can't ignore orders no matter what. That is wrong.
And let me give you an example.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Okay, And that's hyperbolic, but it's an example, and that is,
there are a bunch of kids running out of a
kindergarten class. You scream, or the authority scream, or the
army screams, get down on your knees, put your hands up,
and the guns unload them, even upon order.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Should an army person do that?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Now, obviously it's an extreme here, but it's an example.
Should an armed army personnel shoot an unarmed person whose
hands are in the air and.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's no threat.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well, that army person, that Soldier number one, has the
right to say no, and it is our has the
duty to say no.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
So these congress people are right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now practically speaking, you know, is that ever going to happen?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, it can't close. Remember Kent State.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Where the four students were killed by the National Guard
and the national guard shot into the crowd of demonstrating students.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Who were unarmed and four of them were killed.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now there was an issue as to a gunshot was
heard and they specifically aim who knows, But the point is,
had they been aiming into the crowd, that is illegal.
You can't do that. And Caroline Levitt said, chain of command.
If you are ordered to do anything, you must follow that.
(03:49):
Wrongo bongo. Okay, we start with that. Now, seditious behavior,
that is not sedition. Telling telling service people you have
the right not to follow illegal orders, that is not sedition.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
You are not a trader.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Even if you are convicted under the wildest possibility, under
the wildest circumstances, it's not a death penalty.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's not He's just dead ass wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And the fear among these these congress people is there
are a lot of deranged followers of the president who
may take it on themselves to Okay, the president said
they should die, they should be executed. Now do I
think the president is going to order an execution?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Of course not. Was this hyperbolic from the president.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, I think so he's just spouting off, and I
think he just doesn't know what he's talking about, and
he's just reacting, and he throws it on truth social
but you have to admit there are deranged people out there.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Sedition, by the way, is maximum.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Of twenty years, and there was only one person that
got twenty years out of the January sixth got twenty
two years because his few counts were leveled against him.
And what happened, the president of course pardoned him because
instead of looking at it as a seditious behavior and
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the beating up of police officers and overrunning the capital
that this president views as patriotic, who was a patriotic
move and all of the January sixth defendants are patriots,
our patriots. So and by the way, he defended the
chance of the supporters. Remember where they were screaming, hang
(05:49):
Mike Pence, Hang Mike Pence. He never said anything negative
about that. Hang that's Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay. These were patriots that were saying that.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So it's kind of outrageous. Lindsey Graham, by the way,
who is probably his staunscious supporter, said he has never
seen democrats are any Congress people. This outrageous. Now, how
about what the president said about hanging them? What do
you think, Well, I disagree with that. Come on, guys,
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By the way, have you heard any Republican say the
president is just dead ass wrong, straight out, dead ass wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
This is not treason.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Even if they called for the military to ignore a
lawful order.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is that sedition? It is not sedition.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is overthrowing or being part of the overthrowing of the government,
That sedition. Not telling service people you have the right
not to listen to an unlawful order. It's a big difference,
all right, duh. So I just wanted to point that out,
sort of give you a background. Now I want to
do a handle history segment because as soon as this happened,
(07:15):
as soon as I saw this, I immediately went into
my history mode.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And this is World War two history.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
This is the history that I enjoy the most talking
about because my dad's experience in World War Two, which
is extraordinary. So there is a woman, was a woman
by the name of Tuguri di Akino, and she was
born in la and she was convicted of treason and
went to prison for six years for treason.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And her case was based on the testimony.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Of two men who were coached by the FBI, and
she became a sc scapegoat for anti Jabmandese sentiment, even
though the case really sucked.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
After the war, she was Tokyo Rose.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Tokyo Rose broadcasts on basically Radio Tokyo all over the
South Pacific, and it was propaganda against the armed forces
of the Allies, mainly the United States, saying things like,
you're going to lose the war, you're here, you're dying,
(08:24):
your wives are with new boyfriends. I mean, just really
some pretty harsh stuff. And well, she was born in
la in Watts. She went to UCLA and got a
degree in zoology. So how does she become one of
maybe a dozen Tokyo Roses. By the way, there was
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no single Tokyo Rose. They were never referred to as
Tokyo Rose. That is an American name that the Allies
came up with in referring to these women, all of
who spoke absolutely perfect English. She didn't read Japanese or
her parents were Japanese. She could barely speak a word
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of Japanese, but she spoke perfect English. And she became
Tokyo Rose. Ah, what a story.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
This is so world War.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Two ends in nineteen forty five, and journalists are now
looking for Tokyo Rose. They didn't know that it was
really six or twelve different people, and Tokyo Rose this
was the voice or voices that we're trying to sat
military morale by spreading propaganda against the American soldiers.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And play American tunes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Effectively, she was a disc jockey and instead of doing it,
now here's a tune from Benny Goodman or whatever who
was playing. She also interspersed that with by the way, guys,
you're going to lose the war.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know that, don't you.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You're fighting a force much stronger than you. You're fighting
something that can't be won. You're here, the other guys
are there, and they're hooking up with your girlfriends, your wives,
and look out, well look what's happening there. All right,
I want to come back and finish it up. Because
(10:25):
she was convicted of treason. Treason fascinating story. This is
in light of what the President wrote on True Social
regarding those five Democratic Congress people, all members of the military,
saying to the military, our military, you don't have to
follow illegal orders in reference to what's going on and
(10:49):
in one of the posts, you cannot follow illegal orders,
and the president went completely nuts and he wrote, this
is treasonous, it can be this sedition. Can you get
the death penalty? Which, as I explained, none of that
is true. Okay, Now, what did happen is this La
born Japanese woman to Gori Diakino convicted of treason and
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went to prison for six years. And it was a
pretty sketchy case. And here's what happened. She shouldn't have
been convicted, convicted because the entire case was based on
testimony of two guys who were coached by the FBI.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So she was one of Tokyo roses.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There were about a dozen Tokyo roses, English speaking women
of Japanese descent who in fact were in Tokyo broadcasting
propaganda all over the South Pacific in favor of the
Japanese and telling Allied forces you shouldn't fight.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We're going to beat you.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You've got your girlfriends, your wives are at home and
they're screwing people, the male man.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, just on and on now.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
As I said, she was born in La Here in
laws Angeles, had a degree in zoology from UCLA, wanted
to be a doctor. In nineteen forty one, she went
to Tokyo. Now this is before the war. She had
a sick aunt, she didn't have a passport, could not
get out of Japan, and so what ended up happening
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she was trapped hounded by the Japanese police who were
suspicious of her loyalty because she was an American. She
refused to renounce her American city ship. She couldn't read Japanese,
she basically couldn't speak it. So she found a job
as a typist at Radio Tokyo. Because that's what they
did is here you go, you can be a typists.
And then what they did is enlisted powws in the
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propaganda division. And she became a disc jockey in nineteen
forty three, and in a chirpy voice, speaking American English,
she called herself Orphan Anne, by the way, and she
did hundreds of broadcasts and she called those zero hours,
and she would address the troops in the South Pacific
as my boneheads in the South Pacific.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, federal prosecutor, she comes back. She's tried.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
She was a betrayer of her native land and a
betrayer of her government. In time of need, she was
a turncoat and a female. Benedict Arnold, I guess you
could argue that, and she had actually, she argues subverting
the propaganda.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
She was entertaining troops with language that no.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
One could take seriously, introduced upbeat American music. By the way,
the gis loved her. They loved Tokyo Rose, they thought,
I mean, they all listened because effectively it was an
American radio station they were listening to out of Tokyo.
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And the Japanese they got more than a dozen of
these women into radio service, and the plan was to
demoralize homesick troops. She talked about the hopelessness of the
fight against Japan, urged American fighting men to quit now.
Japanese surrender right or an atomic bomb hits Nagasaki Hiroshima
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and the Japanese surrender, and two American journalists find her
because the Americans they wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Three people in Japan. Three people. One of them was
hero Hito, the emperor that they wanted to try.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But it turned out that MacArthur set that aside and
said we're not going to go there, and he was
brilliant about that. The other one was tojo Hidaiki Tojo,
who was the prime minister. They tried the Americans. The
Allies tried and they hanged him. The third person they
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were looking for was Tokyo Rose. She was considered that important.
So she comes back to the United States. Two American
journalists promised her two thousand dollars for rights to her story.
She signs the contract saying that she was the one
and only Tokyo Rose because she needed the money, and
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so the government in Japan through her in prison for
a year, saying there was no case against her. She
tried to return the United States with her husband, who
was a Tokyo journalist. She was pregnant wanted her baby
to be born American. Now keep in mind she's an
American citizen. Made it back. LA City Council voted to
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bar her return. You ain't coming to Los Angeles. Pressure
was mounting and mounting. This is during the Truman administration.
She was hauled into federal court facing eight counts of
treason in nineteen forty nine and she was convicted of
treason six years and it turned out while she was
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Tokyo Rose one of them. The treason part actually did
not really fly, but the political aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, it did.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
She argues she was forced to do this by the
Japanese government, who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But you still have to be able to have proof.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And she was quoted as saying things that she claims
she never said. By the way, there was no recording
whatsoever at all of any of this. And it was
these two guys coached by the FBI who testified against.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Her, so her story.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
By the way, President Ford granted her a full pardon
in nineteen seventy seven. She was a ninety when she died,
I think in two thousand and six, and reinstated her
American citizenship. The story of Tokyo Rose who was convicted,
and this is President Trump wants five Democratic Congress people
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convicted of sedition because they're telling servicemen you do not
have to follow illegal orders by the administration or by
the president that sedition. That should be the death penalty.
And none of that is true. None of that is true.
All right, California, it's losing a lot of good jobs.
(17:27):
We used to have the California model, massive investments in
higher education. By the way, University of California at one
point was considered the finest university system in the world,
development of industrial zones like the South Bay Silicon Valley,
upgrading a basic infrastructure. California was dynamic, prosperous. It's broken
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now and now the state still provides great opportunities for
technology and financial elites. But looking behind, I'll tell you
it leaves behind this spectrum big one of the middle
and working class.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And how do we know. Let's look at the stats.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The state's poverty and unemployment level highest in the country, TEPI,
job growth highest in the country. Other states Texas, Florida, Arizona,
the Carolinas, Tennessee. They have exploded. They're doing so well.
And you know why they're doing so well because they're
following the California model. They're doing the investment, they're doing
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the infrastructure, they're bringing people. And so you look at
the defense and aerospace industries.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
The state.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We lead in numbers of engineers, the cutting edd technology.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But here's what happens.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Once the companies develop products, they move they go to Texas.
Why is that well, because of taxes, because of housing
and aerospace jobs are great.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
California is one of the most expensive places. I think
it is the.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Most expensive place to live. So let's go to Texas,
so the jobs go there. There's a company called Jet Zero.
It makes fuel efficient planes based in Long Beach. The
jets will be built in Greensboro, North Carolina. Fourteen thousand
people will be working over ten years. A almost five
billion dollar plant is being built SpaceX. Right, they're already
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moving from California to Texas because that's where they're going
to build the rockets. Blue Origin Jeff Bezos, the largest
test facility that has Brownsville and Van Horn, Texas bringing
these great blue collar jobs. And so why is California
falling behind? Well, if you look at what is happening here, Well,
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we're more involved in green energy, and we're fighting and
we're trying to save Hollywood. We're trying to get a
space commission. We don't have one.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Texas and Florida they do have one.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And so, you know, environmental questions are far more important
than keeping jobs here. Texas and the Carolinas are just
doing so much better and we're simply losing to these
players in other states. And well, how about chip manufacturing
that takes enormous amounts of energy, which is the most
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expensive state in the United States for energy costs? Why
it's California, and these chip plants just suck up energy
like you can't believe.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So if we have to go back, are we going
to be able to go back? Well, certainly not with Newsom.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Certainly not with a liberal legislature and a liberal governor.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Moved to Texas.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And if you have a shotgun, get yourself a pickup
truck and get yourself one of those racks and put
the shotgun in the back window, because you have to
do that. That's the law, by the way in Texas.
I don't know if you know that, but by statute
you have to do that. KFI AM six point forty.
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Kf I AM six forty Handle here on a Friday morning,
November twenty one. It's raining, it's footy Friday at eight,
it's ask candle anything at eight thirty.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay, this I don't even know where to go with
this one.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is another trump ism and it started with six
Democratic congress people.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Who are all former military people.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Who made a video saying, and this is in relation
to the president sending troops for example, attack possibly attacking Venezuela,
just a lot of things that many people think are illegal,
and that's going up through the courts. And what the
video said is five of the Democrats said, this is
(00:57):
to the armed services.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You don't have to follow illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
One of them said, you cannot follow illegal orders. In
other words, you are asked to do something and it
is illegal, then you have a duty not to follow it.
Now that is a little bit complicated because who determines
what is legal or illegal. But just saying that, the
(01:26):
President immediately on truth Social came back and said that
that was seditious behavior punishable by death. This is really bad,
dangerous to our country. He wrote, in an earlier post,
their words cannot be allowed to stand seditious behavior from traitors,
lock them up. Okay, So let me give you a
(01:48):
little bit of law here. Okay, we start with the statement,
you do not have to follow illegal orders, or you
cannot follow illegal orders. Now, of course, Caroline Levitt said,
what do you hear a chain of command?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You can't ignore orders no matter what. That is wrong.
And let me give you an example.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Okay, And that's hyperbolic, but it's an example, and that is,
there are a bunch of kids running out of a
kindergarten class. You scream, or the authority scream, or the
army screams, get down on your knees, put your hands up,
and the guns unload them, even upon order.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Should an army person do that?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Now, obviously it's an extreme here, but it's an example.
Should an armed army personnel shoot an unarmed person whose
hands are in the air and.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's no threat.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well, that army person, that Soldier number one, has the
right to say no, and it is our has the
duty to say no.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
So these congress people are right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now practically speaking, you know, is that ever going to happen?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, it can't close. Remember Kent State.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Where the four students were killed by the National Guard
and the national guard shot into the crowd of demonstrating students.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Who were unarmed and four of them were killed.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now there was an issue as to a gunshot was
heard and they specifically aim who knows, But the point is,
had they been aiming into the crowd, that is illegal.
You can't do that. And Caroline Levitt said, chain of command.
If you are ordered to do anything, you must follow that.
(03:49):
Wrongo bongo. Okay, we start with that. Now, seditious behavior,
that is not sedition. Telling telling service people you have
the right not to follow illegal orders, that is not sedition.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
You are not a trader.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Even if you are convicted under the wildest possibility, under
the wildest circumstances, it's not a death penalty.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's not He's just dead ass wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And the fear among these these congress people is there
are a lot of deranged followers of the president who
may take it on themselves to Okay, the president said
they should die, they should be executed. Now do I
think the president is going to order an execution?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Of course not. Was this hyperbolic from the president.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, I think so he's just spouting off, and I
think he just doesn't know what he's talking about, and
he's just reacting, and he throws it on truth social
but you have to admit there are deranged people out there.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Sedition, by the way, is maximum.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Of twenty years, and there was only one person that
got twenty years out of the January sixth got twenty
two years because his few counts were leveled against him.
And what happened, the president of course pardoned him because
instead of looking at it as a seditious behavior and
(05:25):
the beating up of police officers and overrunning the capital
that this president views as patriotic, who was a patriotic
move and all of the January sixth defendants are patriots,
our patriots. So and by the way, he defended the
chance of the supporters. Remember where they were screaming, hang
(05:49):
Mike Pence, Hang Mike Pence. He never said anything negative
about that. Hang that's Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay. These were patriots that were saying that.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So it's kind of outrageous. Lindsey Graham, by the way,
who is probably his staunscious supporter, said he has never
seen democrats are any Congress people. This outrageous. Now, how
about what the president said about hanging them? What do
you think, Well, I disagree with that. Come on, guys,
(06:26):
By the way, have you heard any Republican say the
president is just dead ass wrong, straight out, dead ass wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
This is not treason.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Even if they called for the military to ignore a
lawful order.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Is that sedition? It is not sedition.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is overthrowing or being part of the overthrowing of the government,
That sedition. Not telling service people you have the right
not to listen to an unlawful order. It's a big difference,
all right, duh. So I just wanted to point that out,
sort of give you a background. Now I want to
do a handle history segment because as soon as this happened,
(07:15):
as soon as I saw this, I immediately went into
my history mode.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And this is World War two history.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
This is the history that I enjoy the most talking
about because my dad's experience in World War Two, which
is extraordinary. So there is a woman, was a woman
by the name of Tuguri di Akino, and she was
born in la and she was convicted of treason and
went to prison for six years for treason.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And her case was based on the testimony.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Of two men who were coached by the FBI, and
she became a sc scapegoat for anti Jabmandese sentiment, even
though the case really sucked.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
After the war, she was Tokyo Rose.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Tokyo Rose broadcasts on basically Radio Tokyo all over the
South Pacific, and it was propaganda against the armed forces
of the Allies, mainly the United States, saying things like,
you're going to lose the war, you're here, you're dying,
(08:24):
your wives are with new boyfriends. I mean, just really
some pretty harsh stuff. And well, she was born in
la in Watts. She went to UCLA and got a
degree in zoology. So how does she become one of
maybe a dozen Tokyo Roses. By the way, there was
(08:46):
no single Tokyo Rose. They were never referred to as
Tokyo Rose. That is an American name that the Allies
came up with in referring to these women, all of
who spoke absolutely perfect English. She didn't read Japanese or
her parents were Japanese. She could barely speak a word
(09:08):
of Japanese, but she spoke perfect English. And she became
Tokyo Rose. Ah, what a story.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
This is so world War.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Two ends in nineteen forty five, and journalists are now
looking for Tokyo Rose. They didn't know that it was
really six or twelve different people, and Tokyo Rose this
was the voice or voices that we're trying to sat
military morale by spreading propaganda against the American soldiers.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And play American tunes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Effectively, she was a disc jockey and instead of doing it,
now here's a tune from Benny Goodman or whatever who
was playing. She also interspersed that with by the way, guys,
you're going to lose the war.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know that, don't you.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You're fighting a force much stronger than you. You're fighting
something that can't be won. You're here, the other guys
are there, and they're hooking up with your girlfriends, your wives,
and look out, well look what's happening there. All right,
I want to come back and finish it up. Because
(10:25):
she was convicted of treason. Treason fascinating story. This is
in light of what the President wrote on True Social
regarding those five Democratic Congress people, all members of the military,
saying to the military, our military, you don't have to
follow illegal orders in reference to what's going on and
(10:49):
in one of the posts, you cannot follow illegal orders,
and the president went completely nuts and he wrote, this
is treasonous, it can be this sedition. Can you get
the death penalty? Which, as I explained, none of that
is true. Okay, Now, what did happen is this La
born Japanese woman to Gori Diakino convicted of treason and
(11:13):
went to prison for six years. And it was a
pretty sketchy case. And here's what happened. She shouldn't have
been convicted, convicted because the entire case was based on
testimony of two guys who were coached by the FBI.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So she was one of Tokyo roses.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There were about a dozen Tokyo roses, English speaking women
of Japanese descent who in fact were in Tokyo broadcasting
propaganda all over the South Pacific in favor of the
Japanese and telling Allied forces you shouldn't fight.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We're going to beat you.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You've got your girlfriends, your wives are at home and
they're screwing people, the male man.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, just on and on now.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
As I said, she was born in La Here in
laws Angeles, had a degree in zoology from UCLA, wanted
to be a doctor. In nineteen forty one, she went
to Tokyo. Now this is before the war. She had
a sick aunt, she didn't have a passport, could not
get out of Japan, and so what ended up happening
(12:18):
she was trapped hounded by the Japanese police who were
suspicious of her loyalty because she was an American. She
refused to renounce her American city ship. She couldn't read Japanese,
she basically couldn't speak it. So she found a job
as a typist at Radio Tokyo. Because that's what they
did is here you go, you can be a typists.
And then what they did is enlisted powws in the
(12:44):
propaganda division. And she became a disc jockey in nineteen
forty three, and in a chirpy voice, speaking American English,
she called herself Orphan Anne, by the way, and she
did hundreds of broadcasts and she called those zero hours,
and she would address the troops in the South Pacific
as my boneheads in the South Pacific.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, federal prosecutor, she comes back. She's tried.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
She was a betrayer of her native land and a
betrayer of her government. In time of need, she was
a turncoat and a female. Benedict Arnold, I guess you
could argue that, and she had actually, she argues subverting
the propaganda.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
She was entertaining troops with language that no.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
One could take seriously, introduced upbeat American music. By the way,
the gis loved her. They loved Tokyo Rose, they thought,
I mean, they all listened because effectively it was an
American radio station they were listening to out of Tokyo.
(13:49):
And the Japanese they got more than a dozen of
these women into radio service, and the plan was to
demoralize homesick troops. She talked about the hopelessness of the
fight against Japan, urged American fighting men to quit now.
Japanese surrender right or an atomic bomb hits Nagasaki Hiroshima
(14:13):
and the Japanese surrender, and two American journalists find her
because the Americans they wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Three people in Japan. Three people. One of them was
hero Hito, the emperor that they wanted to try.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But it turned out that MacArthur set that aside and
said we're not going to go there, and he was
brilliant about that. The other one was tojo Hidaiki Tojo,
who was the prime minister. They tried the Americans. The
Allies tried and they hanged him. The third person they
(14:52):
were looking for was Tokyo Rose. She was considered that important.
So she comes back to the United States. Two American
journalists promised her two thousand dollars for rights to her story.
She signs the contract saying that she was the one
and only Tokyo Rose because she needed the money, and
(15:14):
so the government in Japan through her in prison for
a year, saying there was no case against her. She
tried to return the United States with her husband, who
was a Tokyo journalist. She was pregnant wanted her baby
to be born American. Now keep in mind she's an
American citizen. Made it back. LA City Council voted to
(15:34):
bar her return. You ain't coming to Los Angeles. Pressure
was mounting and mounting. This is during the Truman administration.
She was hauled into federal court facing eight counts of
treason in nineteen forty nine and she was convicted of
treason six years and it turned out while she was
(15:57):
Tokyo Rose one of them. The treason part actually did
not really fly, but the political aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, it did.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
She argues she was forced to do this by the
Japanese government, who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But you still have to be able to have proof.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And she was quoted as saying things that she claims
she never said. By the way, there was no recording
whatsoever at all of any of this. And it was
these two guys coached by the FBI who testified against.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Her, so her story.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
By the way, President Ford granted her a full pardon
in nineteen seventy seven. She was a ninety when she died,
I think in two thousand and six, and reinstated her
American citizenship. The story of Tokyo Rose who was convicted,
and this is President Trump wants five Democratic Congress people
(17:02):
convicted of sedition because they're telling servicemen you do not
have to follow illegal orders by the administration or by
the president that sedition. That should be the death penalty.
And none of that is true. None of that is true.
All right, California, it's losing a lot of good jobs.
(17:27):
We used to have the California model, massive investments in
higher education. By the way, University of California at one
point was considered the finest university system in the world,
development of industrial zones like the South Bay Silicon Valley,
upgrading a basic infrastructure. California was dynamic, prosperous. It's broken
(17:50):
now and now the state still provides great opportunities for
technology and financial elites. But looking behind, I'll tell you
it leaves behind this spectrum big one of the middle
and working class.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And how do we know. Let's look at the stats.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
The state's poverty and unemployment level highest in the country, TEPI,
job growth highest in the country. Other states Texas, Florida, Arizona,
the Carolinas, Tennessee. They have exploded. They're doing so well.
And you know why they're doing so well because they're
following the California model. They're doing the investment, they're doing
(18:31):
the infrastructure, they're bringing people. And so you look at
the defense and aerospace industries.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
The state.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We lead in numbers of engineers, the cutting edd technology.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But here's what happens.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Once the companies develop products, they move they go to Texas.
Why is that well, because of taxes, because of housing
and aerospace jobs are great.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
California is one of the most expensive places. I think
it is the.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Most expensive place to live. So let's go to Texas,
so the jobs go there. There's a company called Jet Zero.
It makes fuel efficient planes based in Long Beach. The
jets will be built in Greensboro, North Carolina. Fourteen thousand
people will be working over ten years. A almost five
billion dollar plant is being built SpaceX. Right, they're already
(19:29):
moving from California to Texas because that's where they're going
to build the rockets. Blue Origin Jeff Bezos, the largest
test facility that has Brownsville and Van Horn, Texas bringing
these great blue collar jobs. And so why is California
falling behind? Well, if you look at what is happening here, Well,
(19:57):
we're more involved in green energy, and we're fighting and
we're trying to save Hollywood. We're trying to get a
space commission. We don't have one.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Texas and Florida they do have one.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And so, you know, environmental questions are far more important
than keeping jobs here. Texas and the Carolinas are just
doing so much better and we're simply losing to these
players in other states. And well, how about chip manufacturing
that takes enormous amounts of energy, which is the most
(20:34):
expensive state in the United States for energy costs? Why
it's California, and these chip plants just suck up energy
like you can't believe.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So if we have to go back, are we going
to be able to go back? Well, certainly not with Newsom.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Certainly not with a liberal legislature and a liberal governor.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Moved to Texas.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And if you have a shotgun, get yourself a pickup
truck and get yourself one of those racks and put
the shotgun in the back window, because you have to
do that. That's the law, by the way in Texas.
I don't know if you know that, but by statute
you have to do that. KFI AM six point forty.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
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Speaker 2 (21:23):
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