December 15, 2025 • 26 mins
(December 15,2025)
Amy King and Neil Saavedra join Bill for Handel on the News. Rob Reiner, wife found dead inside Brentwood home in apparent homicide. Person of interest in Brown University shooting being released without charges. Father and son behind Bondi Jewish festival shooting that killed 15, Australian police say.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm looking forward to seeing the AI things that are
going to pop up in the parks.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Then you'll be able to create your own whole new
world and it'll be small Amy cratch yourself, the whole
new world.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Get it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Did you get it? Bill?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I did get okay, And then I added and it's small.
Did you get it?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah? I got it?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Okay. Goods. We should do that for the rest of
the show. Did you get it? Did you get it?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I didn't get it?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And now Handle on the news. Ladies and gentlemen. Here's
Bill Handle.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Good morning, everybody, Bill Handle here morning through December fifteenth,
second day of Hanukah. I lit my menora last night
for the first day and put up our hanka bush,
which I've never ever done before. And then they finished that.
I will have a picture of that up any day.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh good, because I was just gonna ask you what
does a honka bush look like?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I am not by I'll tell you it's it's a
honka bush. It'll be familiar yet not familiar at the
same time, sort of in and out simultaneously. It's sort
of like a Mobias strip, which doesn't make a lot
of sense.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Do you have any idea what Ambia strip looks like?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Nope?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Do you have any idea what amobia strip is?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Nope?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay, time to look it up.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
M O B I U S Mobius strip where there's
one piece of paper that has only one side, it
is not a two sided piece of paper.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
How is that possible? Wow? Well, this is a lot
of my brain is happened to work a lot on
this Monday morning.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, it's uh, it's like infinity. That's correct. It's a
Mobia strip. One side is the same as the other side.
That's a bush. Okay, I'll explain that a little bit
later on. We're starting a little bit obscure this morning,
are we not? Yes we are.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'll answer my question myself. Are we Bill? Yes we are?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Bill?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Okay, let me.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh, here's a bit of news, or two bits of news.
And Neil is gone all week, so it'll just be
Will and it will be Amy me and and Kono
mid out Neil and the other thing I want to announce,
and this is big, big news. We will not be
(02:34):
doing a Trump segment today. And I don't think that
I'm telling you we will not be doing a Trump
segment today, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
All right, guys, what else is going on? Let me
see Chargers one the Rams one. Very great, very good
game between either the Chargers game or the Rams game.
I watched one of them about halfway through. I don't
remember which one. I just like football, you know, I'd
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like people throwing the ball and catching them and running
and people being tackled and being you know, for some reason,
you know, you have grown men trying to hurt each other.
And it works beautifully, doesn't it for the most part.
All right, guys, let's do it. We have some bad
news to start with, and this is National news. This
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just took everybody for surprise, and that is our lead story.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Writer and his wife.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Were found dead inside their home last night, and it
looks like their son killed them, and it was a
knife attack, and everybody is wheeling at this point, trying
to figure out what the hell is going on. What
would be the motive of his son or their son
killing him. Rob Reiner was seventy eight, his wife was
(04:03):
sixty eight, and they're still trying to figure it out.
It would initially the news came out, and it came
out in bits their pieces. A couple was found murdered,
were found dead in their home, and then it was
from apparent knife wounds. Then it was a seventy eight
year old male and a sixty eight year old female
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in a home connected to Rob Reiner and his wife.
And then it came out that it was Rob Reiner
and his wife. And then it came out that their
son is suspected of killing.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Them, as were just as an addendum, like they they're
not saying officially that he is. So we're going to
get a press conference this morning at seven and hopefully
find out some more. Nobody's been arrested.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
People magazine are saying that the sun is.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
TMZ broke it last night also, and you always believed
TMZ usually right. They're usually right, more so than more
so than other organizations, even mainstream organizations. And what we're
this this amy you can comment on this. This is
typical of the news, which is why the initial stories
(05:15):
are sometimes very wrong because the uh, the various parts
of the story are coming out, the theories are coming out,
and it takes a while for the reality to be
reported and for them for them to set up the
police to set up what are what's factual and what
is not.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right, which is going to be a tough position for
the police to be in because they want to give
you information, but they don't want to give any inaccurate information.
And so when they don't give information, people start guessing
and the that's when rumors start and that kind of thing. So,
but they're also saying that the it is believed that
the daughter is the one who found the parents.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
All right, we and we have some news about perceived
Honikkah deaths or deaths are fact but perceived Honikah attacks?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Was this because of Honikah?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Uh? That was a weird intro to Okay, so we'll
skip over to and go to the one in Australia,
But it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Was why why were you skipping Brown University shooting?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So that doesn't have anything to do with Hannaka? Did it?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We don't know? Okay, probably not?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay, don't go to Brown University.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Right, I'm making I'm speculating here, I'm jumping here.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, So at Brown University where there was a mass
shooting on Saturday, they're kind of back to square one.
Because they had detained somebody and they held a press
conference and they said we got him, and then somebody
said to the gentlemen giving the press conference, you can't
say that because we haven't arrested and we've detained him.
The person who was taken into custody has been released.
(06:59):
They're saying that they did have evidence, but now the
evidence is taking them in a different direction. So they
had arrested a guy at a hotel like twenty miles
away from where the shooting happened. He's out the Rhode
ideland Attorney General, as he mentioned, said, they're now going
in another direction. What we do know is that two
people were killed on Saturday on the first floor of
a building. It was the engineering building. Nine others were
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hurt and it was all students who were shot. And
they don't have the shooter in custody. They don't have
a motive. They just know that two people are dead
and nine others were hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, and this is really unusual, and that a person
of interest has been picked up and is not connected
to the crime.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
That rarely happens.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And now here is a Honiger shooting that sent Australia reeling.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, This happened at Bondai Beach on the first day
of Hanukkah. Apparently they celebrated the beach in Australia on Honkkah,
but a father and son shooter showed up and just
started shooting. Fifteen people were killed, dozens more are hurt.
The father as a fifty year old man. He was
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shot and killed by police at the scene. The twenty
four year old son is in a coma and in
critical condition.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Did you see the video of that bystander tackling the
I think it was the father and it was You
talk about an act of heroism, and the authorities are
saying that bystander is a true hero.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Just when you see the father with the.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Gun and this guy running and just tackling him much
like a football tackle. And they have the names of
the two Sajid Akram and Navid Akram. And the father
was killed, the son wounded and is in custody and
at the hospital and in critical condition.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Wow, this is a tough one.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Already has been labeled a terrorist attack, and Australia has
some of the most strict gun laws anywhere, so very
rarely does this happen.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And the Prime Minister of Australia is now saying they're
going to overhaul those already strict gun laws. I don't
know what else they can do, but they're going to
overhaul them. Security is being stepped up in Los Angeles
in response to what is being called a targeted terrorist
attack in Australia, providing extra security patrols at Jewish facilities
(09:37):
and Hanukkah events. The police are saying, while there is
no known threat to LA, the LAPD remains vigilant and
committed to protecting our diverse communities. As part of this commitment,
the LAPD will provide extra patrols at Jewish facilities, schools, synagogues,
and at Hankka events around LA.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
The Jewish community is suggesting that Jews celebrit and hank
On instead of lighting candles, do it with wafers and
wine and you'll be able to at least avert what
is clearly it looks like an attack. Huh, wafers and wine, Okay,
without the cheese whiz.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
That was a double joke. That was on two different levels.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh that was a joke.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Oh wow, that bad Huh.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I didn't know if that was part of the celebration.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I'm taking away your jew card. I'll tell you that
right now.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't have it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It is gone.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, uh tik tik tik. Fox running lawmakers are, you know,
trying to get out of town for their Christmas vacation.
But they got a lot to do before they go.
And of course the big one is the skyrocketing healthcare costs.
If they don't either find something new for healthcare or
extend the subsidies for Obamacare that are going to run
(11:02):
out at the end of this month.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
After this, yeah, the Republicans are going to be in
a lot of trouble on this one.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They're going to be blamed for the premiums going up
like crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
And the reason a few of the.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Democrats caved on extending the budget for until the end
of January, and that's it, is because the Republicans wanted
to keep the government running legitimately, and the Democrats are saying,
until we get this healthcare straightened out, we're not going
to help at all. And so the Republicans said, we're
(11:33):
going to come up with a bill. We're going to
come up with a bill instantly. We're going to comeup
with the bill started at the first Trump administration, right
at the beginning of Trump administration number one, we're going
to come up with a bill.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We're going to come up with a bill, and it
never happened.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, we're going to see some kind of a modified,
kind of a horse crappy little bill that is not
going to bode well because it's all about these subsidies
in increased for Obamacare because we've gotten.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Used to it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
One of the things about temporary, anything that helps helps
the electorate cannot be temporary. It has to go on forever.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, then they should quit saying that it's temporary to
get it passed.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Oh yeah, but they always say temporary. They got it
passed being temporary. Right, These bills sunset, many of them sunset,
and they just are revoted back in and become permanent.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do you think that they're going to have to cave
and pass some sort of extension before they leave. Yep,
they're gonna, you just we don't know what they're going
to do, but it seems so logical that they would because,
like you said, the Republicans are getting blamed for this.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yep, they are going to have no choice.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Even though the plan was that was passed by Democrats
was to sunset those subsidies, right.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And I think the anticipation both like the Republicans, is
there will be a replacement for Obamacare, with the Republicans
saying it is broken, it is horrible, it is does
not help the American people, and the Democrats are saying
it does and twenty something million people are covered now
because of the Obamacare.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, it's going to be a political fight, you bet.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Zelensky says he's willing to give up on NATO, but
he's not willing to give up his land. So he
yesterday voiced readiness to drop Ukraine's bid to join NATO,
which is one of a sticking point Russia said no,
you can't be in NATO. But he's pushing back on
the US plan that would include seeding territory to Russia.
(13:44):
They had a meeting over the weekend with Special ENVOYE.
Seve Whatcoff and Zelenski and also Jared Kushner.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
What Putin wants is exactly what he demanded at the
first part of the invasion.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
We want the land, and we want no NATO the land.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because he believes and this is not just out of
the blue, he is believed this for his entire life,
that Ukraine, that part of Ukraine is part of Russia,
where at one point historically it was. And as far
as joining NATO, that becomes problematic because Article five of
NATO says if one of the twenty eight countries of
NATO is attacked, then all of NATO is attacked. And
(14:25):
Putin does not want twenty eight countries going after him,
not France, England, Germany among the big ones.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Accident one more oh okay accident averted this scary. A
Jet Blue flight from Kiasau, which is just off the
coast of Venezuela, a little country, apparently had to stop
its ascent so it wouldn't crash into a US Air
Force refueling tanker. The pilot blamed the military plane for
(14:58):
crossing its path. The Jet Blue pilot said, we almost
had a mid air collision up here. They passed directly
in our flight path. They don't have their transponder turned on.
It's outrageous, Yeah, it seems outrageous.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You ever notice that whenever pilots have close calls, they're
always calm. Oh not so much this time, but always
calm no matter what. Instead of those of us going
holy crap without using.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The word crap, and we're very lucky that they are
that way. Yes, I should have a panic on the plane.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Right, that's absolutely correct. Okay, more handle on the news,
Amy and me.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh okay. So this this family got some very bizarre
personal effects back from the mortuary and now they're suing
a San Jose mortuary business and funeral services director been
accused of giving a breathing father a bag with his
son's brain in it. The family is sewing. They say
(15:59):
that the man died inside his home in Santa Clara.
They arranged to have the funeral and they wanted to
have him dressed in something different, so the dad took
different clothes or something like that, and then the funeral
parlor gave him the dad something back, and so the
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red bag indicated there were there was biohazardous material inside,
and the man then apparently took the bag that was
supposed to have his son's clothing in it and opened
up the washing machine and dumped the contents inside and
there was the brain.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Now you can look at this two different ways.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
One, this happened Halloween night and the man goes to
the morginary and says trick or treat and there's the bag.
Or he takes the bag, opens it up and looks
at the mortuary man and said, my god, these are
my brain son's brains. And the rictuary person said, you
(17:01):
know what, let me think about that. Okay, Moving on,
The guy.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Who killed US troops in Syria was apparently a new
recruit to security forces. Of course, there was the attack
that killed three US citizens in in Syria, and apparently
he had joined Siria's Internal Security Force as a base
security guard just two months earlier, but he had been
(17:35):
reassigned because of suspicions that he might be affiliated with ISIS,
but apparently was still part of the security force.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What there were five thousand members who joined this new division.
I mean, they're more. They're moving really quickly in Syria.
Former ISIS leader is now the president. I mean, the
weird stuff going on in Syria and even went to
the White House to meet the president a former terrorist.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
That's how quickly things are moving in Syria.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Beefing up border security along the California Mexico border, Jrump
administration adding another militarized zone to the southern border The
Department of Interior says it would be transferring jurisdiction along
most of California's international border with Mexico to the Navy
to reinforce, in its words, the historic role public lands
(18:34):
have played in safeguarding national sovereignty.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, I'm pretty happy that Texas doesn't have that problem
at all, or any Republican state that borders California.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's only California.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well, the military strategy was pioneered in April along the
one hundred and seventy miles stretch of the border in
New Mexico and later was expanded to portions in Texas
and Arizona.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But we're also talking about some new military troops that
are going in. So this is expanding, and it's expanding
to other cities, all Democrat cities, not any Republican cities,
because there's no risk of illegal migration to Republican cities.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And maybe there is it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Maybe the illegal immigrants only go to migrant the migrants
only go to Democratic city because they there they get
sanctuary where the local government does not cooperate with the FEDS.
And I don't know the answer to that. Someone will
email me and rip into me of course, Damn am
(19:40):
I doing Trump topics? When I promised I wouldn't. I
promised you I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Habits are hard to break, God.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
They really are.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I woke up this morning saying there will be
no Trump. We are going to be trumpless today.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Watch out for the vomiting bug. The number of dreaded
neurovirus cases climbing again in California. Doctors are warning that
a new sub variant could make even more people stick
this season. The stomach flu levels are on the rise,
especially in San Francisco and the La Areas.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, can't wait.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Did you get your flu shot?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh? Yeah, I always get my flu shot.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Good boy.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Another blow for the Chiefs Patrick mahomes out he injured
his ACL in his left knee. It happened in the
final two minutes of the game on Sunday. The Chargers
have eliminated the Chiefs from playoff contention with their sixteen thirteen.
When is that the game that you watched half of?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah? I watched a part of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I watch a lot of parts of different games. And
I saw him go down, And you know, it is
a shame because the Chiefs were putting together a dynasty,
much like the Patriots had a dynasty, much like the
forty Niners had a dynasty under Joe Montana.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
The Patriots under.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Tom Brady, who is a Fox is a Fox analyst
for football, and he does a great job. I don't
know if you notice that. He's actually very good at it.
And the Chiefs were on its way, but that fell apart. Oh,
there is a documentary that's on Netflix if you're all
interested in football, and I'm sort of interested in football,
(21:36):
and it's all.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
About the I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
It's all about Dallas, the Cowboys, and it is about
the dynasty they created and how they became America's team
if you remember in the eighties. And it's fascinating how
Jerry Jones put it all together. And it's just really interesting.
Do I have a write as a Jerry Jones or
(22:03):
Jones Jerry or it's just fascinating.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's worth watching. Okay, just mentioning it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
If a billion dollars just isn't enough for you, well
you're in luck because the jackpot's going up. There was
no power Ball winner for Saturday night, so nobody won
the one billion dollar jackpot, So there's another drawing tonight,
and it is worth one point one billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Now that's not fair to say it's worth one point one.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Billion, because half of that goes to taxes, especially here
in California, and then people take a cash buyout instead
of the monthly payout that they give you, and so
it goes down to about two fifty So it really
is only two hundred and fifty million dollars a billion dollars,
so it's it's not that much.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I was thinking about that because I was listening to
KFI yesterday when they mentioned that there was no winner,
and I went, it's not a billion dollars. Good point.
How How smart are your dogs? Researchers at Duke University
set out to study a dog's intelligence and found insights
about how dogs learn what their strengths are and how
(23:13):
the species is evolving to become even better companions to humans.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
If you have a dog like I do, I have
two of them. I no longer useiri. I use the dog.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Hey is he? What's the temperature going to be like? Today?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Dog sounds a lot like Scooby do, But you can
get Scooby Doo on waste do you know that? So
why not get your information from dogs?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Analysis?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Very strong and beautiful. Its beautiful. So slop is all
the rage? Creepy is any demonstrably fake content is often
called slop? I didn't even know this. The words proliferation
online in parts thanks to the widespread availability of generative AI,
has landed it as Miriam Webster's twenty twenty five word
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of the Year. I always thought it was a gross food.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, so did I gross food? Yeah, that you feed pigs.
But I guess it goes beyond that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, and then the other words twenty twenty four polarization,
makes sense, authentic, and twenty twenty three gasoline.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Two, gasoline was the word of the year.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Gas lighting. I'm so gas light lighting, not gasoline.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Twenty twenty one, the word was hooker, and it was
it just goes on and.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
On the different words.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay, oh that's not true about the word hooker, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, well but here's Jerry Mander. It was a real word.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And you also have words that well remember the word
bite b yte that was used if you're year years ago,
that deal with computers today, it deal the today. It
deals with relationships, polarization being one of the premier words,
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makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
And sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Matter.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What's that last word after tariffs?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But do you know what touch grass is?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm not going to try to pronounce that one yet.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I gotta high on high on marijuana.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, it's it's a it's an internet phrase. It means
to participate in normal activities in the real world, as
opposed to doing online experiences. Touch grass, touch grass. Okay, so, cono,
can you say the name of this last word that's
also on the list?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
No, that's what I was hoping you guys were going
to get Let me look at it, just to put
the story down.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hold on, Okay, it's the name of a lake. And
uh Merriam people said the name of this lake delighted
and baffled us when it started clogging the top lookups
list on Merriam webster dot com. It's lake. There's no way. Okay,
maybe yegg man chogga gog chob bun buna gunga mug.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Oh, there you go. It's pretty good. No, No, exactly,
it's a lake. It's like lake Mead.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know, it's really difficult to pronounce. Yeah, you know,
it's easy to pronounce. All right, we're done, guys. Kf
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Speaker 2 (26:36):
FI.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm looking forward to seeing the AI things that are
going to pop up in the parks.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Then you'll be able to create your own whole new
world and it'll be small Amy cratch yourself, the whole
new world.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Get it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Did you get it? Bill?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I did get okay, And then I added and it's small.
Did you get it?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah? I got it?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Okay. Goods. We should do that for the rest of
the show. Did you get it? Did you get it?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I didn't get it?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And now Handle on the news. Ladies and gentlemen. Here's
Bill Handle.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Good morning, everybody, Bill Handle here morning through December fifteenth,
second day of Hanukah. I lit my menora last night
for the first day and put up our hanka bush,
which I've never ever done before. And then they finished that.
I will have a picture of that up any day.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh good, because I was just gonna ask you what
does a honka bush look like?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I am not by I'll tell you it's it's a
honka bush. It'll be familiar yet not familiar at the
same time, sort of in and out simultaneously. It's sort
of like a Mobias strip, which doesn't make a lot
of sense.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Do you have any idea what Ambia strip looks like?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Nope?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Do you have any idea what amobia strip is?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Nope?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay, time to look it up.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
M O B I U S Mobius strip where there's
one piece of paper that has only one side, it
is not a two sided piece of paper.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
How is that possible? Wow? Well, this is a lot
of my brain is happened to work a lot on
this Monday morning.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, it's uh, it's like infinity. That's correct. It's a
Mobia strip. One side is the same as the other side.
That's a bush. Okay, I'll explain that a little bit
later on. We're starting a little bit obscure this morning,
are we not? Yes we are.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I'll answer my question myself. Are we Bill? Yes we are?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Bill?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Okay, let me.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh, here's a bit of news, or two bits of news.
And Neil is gone all week, so it'll just be
Will and it will be Amy me and and Kono
mid out Neil and the other thing I want to announce,
and this is big, big news. We will not be
(02:34):
doing a Trump segment today. And I don't think that
I'm telling you we will not be doing a Trump
segment today, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
All right, guys, what else is going on? Let me
see Chargers one the Rams one. Very great, very good
game between either the Chargers game or the Rams game.
I watched one of them about halfway through. I don't
remember which one. I just like football, you know, I'd
(03:09):
like people throwing the ball and catching them and running
and people being tackled and being you know, for some reason,
you know, you have grown men trying to hurt each other.
And it works beautifully, doesn't it for the most part.
All right, guys, let's do it. We have some bad
news to start with, and this is National news. This
(03:30):
just took everybody for surprise, and that is our lead story.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Writer and his wife.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Were found dead inside their home last night, and it
looks like their son killed them, and it was a
knife attack, and everybody is wheeling at this point, trying
to figure out what the hell is going on. What
would be the motive of his son or their son
killing him. Rob Reiner was seventy eight, his wife was
(04:03):
sixty eight, and they're still trying to figure it out.
It would initially the news came out, and it came
out in bits their pieces. A couple was found murdered,
were found dead in their home, and then it was
from apparent knife wounds. Then it was a seventy eight
year old male and a sixty eight year old female
(04:23):
in a home connected to Rob Reiner and his wife.
And then it came out that it was Rob Reiner
and his wife. And then it came out that their
son is suspected of killing.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Them, as were just as an addendum, like they they're
not saying officially that he is. So we're going to
get a press conference this morning at seven and hopefully
find out some more. Nobody's been arrested.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
People magazine are saying that the sun is.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
TMZ broke it last night also, and you always believed
TMZ usually right. They're usually right, more so than more
so than other organizations, even mainstream organizations. And what we're
this this amy you can comment on this. This is
typical of the news, which is why the initial stories
(05:15):
are sometimes very wrong because the uh, the various parts
of the story are coming out, the theories are coming out,
and it takes a while for the reality to be
reported and for them for them to set up the
police to set up what are what's factual and what
is not.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right, which is going to be a tough position for
the police to be in because they want to give
you information, but they don't want to give any inaccurate information.
And so when they don't give information, people start guessing
and the that's when rumors start and that kind of thing. So,
but they're also saying that the it is believed that
the daughter is the one who found the parents.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
All right, we and we have some news about perceived
Honikkah deaths or deaths are fact but perceived Honikah attacks?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Was this because of Honikah?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Uh? That was a weird intro to Okay, so we'll
skip over to and go to the one in Australia,
But it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Was why why were you skipping Brown University shooting?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So that doesn't have anything to do with Hannaka? Did it?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We don't know? Okay, probably not?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay, don't go to Brown University.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Right, I'm making I'm speculating here, I'm jumping here.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, So at Brown University where there was a mass
shooting on Saturday, they're kind of back to square one.
Because they had detained somebody and they held a press
conference and they said we got him, and then somebody
said to the gentlemen giving the press conference, you can't
say that because we haven't arrested and we've detained him.
The person who was taken into custody has been released.
(06:59):
They're saying that they did have evidence, but now the
evidence is taking them in a different direction. So they
had arrested a guy at a hotel like twenty miles
away from where the shooting happened. He's out the Rhode
ideland Attorney General, as he mentioned, said, they're now going
in another direction. What we do know is that two
people were killed on Saturday on the first floor of
a building. It was the engineering building. Nine others were
(07:22):
hurt and it was all students who were shot. And
they don't have the shooter in custody. They don't have
a motive. They just know that two people are dead
and nine others were hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah, and this is really unusual, and that a person
of interest has been picked up and is not connected
to the crime.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
That rarely happens.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And now here is a Honiger shooting that sent Australia reeling.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, This happened at Bondai Beach on the first day
of Hanukkah. Apparently they celebrated the beach in Australia on Honkkah,
but a father and son shooter showed up and just
started shooting. Fifteen people were killed, dozens more are hurt.
The father as a fifty year old man. He was
(08:10):
shot and killed by police at the scene. The twenty
four year old son is in a coma and in
critical condition.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Did you see the video of that bystander tackling the
I think it was the father and it was You
talk about an act of heroism, and the authorities are
saying that bystander is a true hero.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Just when you see the father with the.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Gun and this guy running and just tackling him much
like a football tackle. And they have the names of
the two Sajid Akram and Navid Akram. And the father
was killed, the son wounded and is in custody and
at the hospital and in critical condition.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Wow, this is a tough one.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Already has been labeled a terrorist attack, and Australia has
some of the most strict gun laws anywhere, so very
rarely does this happen.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And the Prime Minister of Australia is now saying they're
going to overhaul those already strict gun laws. I don't
know what else they can do, but they're going to
overhaul them. Security is being stepped up in Los Angeles
in response to what is being called a targeted terrorist
attack in Australia, providing extra security patrols at Jewish facilities
(09:37):
and Hanukkah events. The police are saying, while there is
no known threat to LA, the LAPD remains vigilant and
committed to protecting our diverse communities. As part of this commitment,
the LAPD will provide extra patrols at Jewish facilities, schools, synagogues,
and at Hankka events around LA.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
The Jewish community is suggesting that Jews celebrit and hank
On instead of lighting candles, do it with wafers and
wine and you'll be able to at least avert what
is clearly it looks like an attack. Huh, wafers and wine, Okay,
without the cheese whiz.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
That was a double joke. That was on two different levels.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh that was a joke.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Oh wow, that bad Huh.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I didn't know if that was part of the celebration.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I'm taking away your jew card. I'll tell you that
right now.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't have it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It is gone.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, uh tik tik tik. Fox running lawmakers are, you know,
trying to get out of town for their Christmas vacation.
But they got a lot to do before they go.
And of course the big one is the skyrocketing healthcare costs.
If they don't either find something new for healthcare or
extend the subsidies for Obamacare that are going to run
(11:02):
out at the end of this month.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
After this, yeah, the Republicans are going to be in
a lot of trouble on this one.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They're going to be blamed for the premiums going up
like crazy.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
And the reason a few of the.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Democrats caved on extending the budget for until the end
of January, and that's it, is because the Republicans wanted
to keep the government running legitimately, and the Democrats are saying,
until we get this healthcare straightened out, we're not going
to help at all. And so the Republicans said, we're
(11:33):
going to come up with a bill. We're going to
come up with a bill instantly. We're going to comeup
with the bill started at the first Trump administration, right
at the beginning of Trump administration number one, we're going
to come up with a bill.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We're going to come up with a bill, and it
never happened.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, we're going to see some kind of a modified,
kind of a horse crappy little bill that is not
going to bode well because it's all about these subsidies
in increased for Obamacare because we've gotten.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Used to it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
One of the things about temporary, anything that helps helps
the electorate cannot be temporary. It has to go on forever.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, then they should quit saying that it's temporary to
get it passed.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Oh yeah, but they always say temporary. They got it
passed being temporary. Right, These bills sunset, many of them sunset,
and they just are revoted back in and become permanent.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do you think that they're going to have to cave
and pass some sort of extension before they leave. Yep,
they're gonna, you just we don't know what they're going
to do, but it seems so logical that they would because,
like you said, the Republicans are getting blamed for this.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yep, they are going to have no choice.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Even though the plan was that was passed by Democrats
was to sunset those subsidies, right.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And I think the anticipation both like the Republicans, is
there will be a replacement for Obamacare, with the Republicans
saying it is broken, it is horrible, it is does
not help the American people, and the Democrats are saying
it does and twenty something million people are covered now
because of the Obamacare.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, it's going to be a political fight, you bet.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Zelensky says he's willing to give up on NATO, but
he's not willing to give up his land. So he
yesterday voiced readiness to drop Ukraine's bid to join NATO,
which is one of a sticking point Russia said no,
you can't be in NATO. But he's pushing back on
the US plan that would include seeding territory to Russia.
(13:44):
They had a meeting over the weekend with Special ENVOYE.
Seve Whatcoff and Zelenski and also Jared Kushner.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
What Putin wants is exactly what he demanded at the
first part of the invasion.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
We want the land, and we want no NATO the land.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because he believes and this is not just out of
the blue, he is believed this for his entire life,
that Ukraine, that part of Ukraine is part of Russia,
where at one point historically it was. And as far
as joining NATO, that becomes problematic because Article five of
NATO says if one of the twenty eight countries of
NATO is attacked, then all of NATO is attacked. And
(14:25):
Putin does not want twenty eight countries going after him,
not France, England, Germany among the big ones.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Accident one more oh okay accident averted this scary. A
Jet Blue flight from Kiasau, which is just off the
coast of Venezuela, a little country, apparently had to stop
its ascent so it wouldn't crash into a US Air
Force refueling tanker. The pilot blamed the military plane for
(14:58):
crossing its path. The Jet Blue pilot said, we almost
had a mid air collision up here. They passed directly
in our flight path. They don't have their transponder turned on.
It's outrageous, Yeah, it seems outrageous.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You ever notice that whenever pilots have close calls, they're
always calm. Oh not so much this time, but always
calm no matter what. Instead of those of us going
holy crap without using.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The word crap, and we're very lucky that they are
that way. Yes, I should have a panic on the plane.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Right, that's absolutely correct. Okay, more handle on the news,
Amy and me.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh okay. So this this family got some very bizarre
personal effects back from the mortuary and now they're suing
a San Jose mortuary business and funeral services director been
accused of giving a breathing father a bag with his
son's brain in it. The family is sewing. They say
(15:59):
that the man died inside his home in Santa Clara.
They arranged to have the funeral and they wanted to
have him dressed in something different, so the dad took
different clothes or something like that, and then the funeral
parlor gave him the dad something back, and so the
(16:20):
red bag indicated there were there was biohazardous material inside,
and the man then apparently took the bag that was
supposed to have his son's clothing in it and opened
up the washing machine and dumped the contents inside and
there was the brain.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Now you can look at this two different ways.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
One, this happened Halloween night and the man goes to
the morginary and says trick or treat and there's the bag.
Or he takes the bag, opens it up and looks
at the mortuary man and said, my god, these are
my brain son's brains. And the rictuary person said, you
(17:01):
know what, let me think about that. Okay, Moving on,
The guy.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Who killed US troops in Syria was apparently a new
recruit to security forces. Of course, there was the attack
that killed three US citizens in in Syria, and apparently
he had joined Siria's Internal Security Force as a base
security guard just two months earlier, but he had been
(17:35):
reassigned because of suspicions that he might be affiliated with ISIS,
but apparently was still part of the security force.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What there were five thousand members who joined this new division.
I mean, they're more. They're moving really quickly in Syria.
Former ISIS leader is now the president. I mean, the
weird stuff going on in Syria and even went to
the White House to meet the president a former terrorist.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
That's how quickly things are moving in Syria.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Beefing up border security along the California Mexico border, Jrump
administration adding another militarized zone to the southern border The
Department of Interior says it would be transferring jurisdiction along
most of California's international border with Mexico to the Navy
to reinforce, in its words, the historic role public lands
(18:34):
have played in safeguarding national sovereignty.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, I'm pretty happy that Texas doesn't have that problem
at all, or any Republican state that borders California.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's only California.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well, the military strategy was pioneered in April along the
one hundred and seventy miles stretch of the border in
New Mexico and later was expanded to portions in Texas
and Arizona.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But we're also talking about some new military troops that
are going in. So this is expanding, and it's expanding
to other cities, all Democrat cities, not any Republican cities,
because there's no risk of illegal migration to Republican cities.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And maybe there is it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Maybe the illegal immigrants only go to migrant the migrants
only go to Democratic city because they there they get
sanctuary where the local government does not cooperate with the FEDS.
And I don't know the answer to that. Someone will
email me and rip into me of course, Damn am
(19:40):
I doing Trump topics? When I promised I wouldn't. I
promised you I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Habits are hard to break, God.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
They really are.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I woke up this morning saying there will be
no Trump. We are going to be trumpless today.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Watch out for the vomiting bug. The number of dreaded
neurovirus cases climbing again in California. Doctors are warning that
a new sub variant could make even more people stick
this season. The stomach flu levels are on the rise,
especially in San Francisco and the La Areas.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, can't wait.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Did you get your flu shot?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh? Yeah, I always get my flu shot.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Good boy.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Another blow for the Chiefs Patrick mahomes out he injured
his ACL in his left knee. It happened in the
final two minutes of the game on Sunday. The Chargers
have eliminated the Chiefs from playoff contention with their sixteen thirteen.
When is that the game that you watched half of?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah? I watched a part of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I watch a lot of parts of different games. And
I saw him go down, And you know, it is
a shame because the Chiefs were putting together a dynasty,
much like the Patriots had a dynasty, much like the
forty Niners had a dynasty under Joe Montana.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
The Patriots under.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Tom Brady, who is a Fox is a Fox analyst
for football, and he does a great job. I don't
know if you notice that. He's actually very good at it.
And the Chiefs were on its way, but that fell apart. Oh,
there is a documentary that's on Netflix if you're all
interested in football, and I'm sort of interested in football,
(21:36):
and it's all.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
About the I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
It's all about Dallas, the Cowboys, and it is about
the dynasty they created and how they became America's team
if you remember in the eighties. And it's fascinating how
Jerry Jones put it all together. And it's just really interesting.
Do I have a write as a Jerry Jones or
(22:03):
Jones Jerry or it's just fascinating.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's worth watching. Okay, just mentioning it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
If a billion dollars just isn't enough for you, well
you're in luck because the jackpot's going up. There was
no power Ball winner for Saturday night, so nobody won
the one billion dollar jackpot, So there's another drawing tonight,
and it is worth one point one billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Now that's not fair to say it's worth one point one.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Billion, because half of that goes to taxes, especially here
in California, and then people take a cash buyout instead
of the monthly payout that they give you, and so
it goes down to about two fifty So it really
is only two hundred and fifty million dollars a billion dollars,
so it's it's not that much.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I was thinking about that because I was listening to
KFI yesterday when they mentioned that there was no winner,
and I went, it's not a billion dollars. Good point.
How How smart are your dogs? Researchers at Duke University
set out to study a dog's intelligence and found insights
about how dogs learn what their strengths are and how
(23:13):
the species is evolving to become even better companions to humans.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
If you have a dog like I do, I have
two of them. I no longer useiri. I use the dog.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Hey is he? What's the temperature going to be like? Today?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Dog sounds a lot like Scooby do, But you can
get Scooby Doo on waste do you know that? So
why not get your information from dogs?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Analysis?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Very strong and beautiful. Its beautiful. So slop is all
the rage? Creepy is any demonstrably fake content is often
called slop? I didn't even know this. The words proliferation
online in parts thanks to the widespread availability of generative AI,
has landed it as Miriam Webster's twenty twenty five word
(24:10):
of the Year. I always thought it was a gross food.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, so did I gross food? Yeah, that you feed pigs.
But I guess it goes beyond that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, and then the other words twenty twenty four polarization,
makes sense, authentic, and twenty twenty three gasoline.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Two, gasoline was the word of the year.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Gas lighting. I'm so gas light lighting, not gasoline.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Twenty twenty one, the word was hooker, and it was
it just goes on and.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
On the different words.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay, oh that's not true about the word hooker, by
the way.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, well but here's Jerry Mander. It was a real word.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And you also have words that well remember the word
bite b yte that was used if you're year years ago,
that deal with computers today, it deal the today. It
deals with relationships, polarization being one of the premier words,
(25:17):
makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
And sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Matter.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What's that last word after tariffs?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But do you know what touch grass is?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm not going to try to pronounce that one yet.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I gotta high on high on marijuana.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, it's it's a it's an internet phrase. It means
to participate in normal activities in the real world, as
opposed to doing online experiences. Touch grass, touch grass. Okay, so, cono,
can you say the name of this last word that's
also on the list?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
No, that's what I was hoping you guys were going
to get Let me look at it, just to put
the story down.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hold on, Okay, it's the name of a lake. And
uh Merriam people said the name of this lake delighted
and baffled us when it started clogging the top lookups
list on Merriam webster dot com. It's lake. There's no way. Okay,
maybe yegg man chogga gog chob bun buna gunga mug.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Oh, there you go. It's pretty good. No, No, exactly,
it's a lake. It's like lake Mead.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You know, it's really difficult to pronounce. Yeah, you know,
it's easy to pronounce. All right, we're done, guys. Kf
I A m.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
FI.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
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